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hb smokey
09-29-2004, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Rapture
I can't make everyone happy Hogan. I'm happy to include your game, if other shriners don't mind getting rid of a listed RPG.
Well, why not just continue to add other games to the list? That way, hopefully, it will make it to 32.

TCK
09-29-2004, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Smokey

Well, why not just continue to add other games to the list? That way, hopefully, it will make it to 32. I agree with this. There's plenty more RPGs out there that would help reach this number.

KREAYSHAWN
09-29-2004, 02:01 PM
wtf

we could have easily reached 32, and the current competitors are shit.

gj

katriona
09-29-2004, 04:52 PM
hi im new here i will help or something can i join pm me asap anyone i dont mind who

that sounds pahthetic dunt it lol

hb smokey
09-29-2004, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by katriona
hi im new here i will help or something can i join pm me asap anyone i dont mind who

that sounds pahthetic dunt it lol
Not after I checked your profile.

If you have any good RPG's in mind, just either PM them to Rapture, or suggest them here. And vote if you want as well.

Rapture
09-30-2004, 02:01 PM
These are the games currently in it.

Morrowind
Fallout
Baldur's Gate
Wizardry (6)
Xenogears
Tales of Symphonia
Terranigma
Chrono Trigger
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Wars: KoToR
Final Fantasy VI
Ragnarok
Skies of Aarcadia Legends
Dark Cloud 2
Final Fantasy VII
Shenmue
Kingdom Hearts
Earthbound (for Ndi)
Vagrant Story
Diablo 2
Planescape: Torment
Grandia
Suikoden

Which totals 24, so to reach 32 we will need EIGHT more.

Post your favourite RPG's, or ones that you played and liked.

Oh, BTW

Morrowind - 9
Shenmue - 0

I'll start the next battle wehn we have 32.

Sjel
09-30-2004, 02:07 PM
Let's include Fallout...

Rapture
09-30-2004, 02:19 PM
Done.

TCK
09-30-2004, 06:48 PM
Might as well add Illusion Of Gaia as well.

Erm...Pokemon?

hb smokey
09-30-2004, 08:20 PM
I think that you should just go ahead with the battles. I mean, I'm sure we can get to 32 within the next few days.

Raidenex
10-01-2004, 12:10 AM
Put Final Fantasy X back in ;_;

Oh, and after playing it last night, I suggest Star Ocean: Till the End of Time.

Zikan
10-01-2004, 01:09 AM
Wait guys! I don't recall Raganrok as an Rpg, can like someone refresh my memory on what you do in that game?

Some other games that might help:

Arcanum
Breath of Fire
Dragon quest
Dungeon Siege
Return to Krondor!!
Sacred
Summon night
Ultima!!
Wild arms
Vampire: The Masquerade
Quest for Glory
Neverwinter night
Brave fencer Musashi
Might and Magic
lands of lore
Divine Divinity

16 games that some of which should have been there earlier. The games that I bold out are highly recommended. They had their roots during the time when Rpgs were the Rage, before the fad died out and restarted again.

hb smokey
10-01-2004, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by Zikan
Breath of Fire
Dragon quest

I also highly recommend these two, along with Secret of Evermore.

RottenMilkman
10-01-2004, 04:02 AM
Originally posted by Zikan

Breath of Fire
Dragon quest
Ultima!!
Wild arms
Neverwinter night
Might and Magic


All seconded by me.

Hogan
10-01-2004, 01:39 PM
I don't know if you want to include Xenosaga and Chrono Cross because of Gears and Trigger but they are both very good games.

11 squall
10-02-2004, 02:49 PM
final fantasy viii

a personal favourate

Zikan
10-03-2004, 01:04 AM
nah ffviii is out already, sorry kid. There was only 2 spaces for ff games and they were already both filled up so you came a bit late for that. but never mind, I'm sure you have played other games and they can be contributed to later rumbles. so cheers!

Hogan
10-04-2004, 12:40 AM
If there are only going to be two final fantasys then I suggest not 7 and 10. Seeing as how they are they are bad and all.

Raidenex
10-04-2004, 01:17 AM
If there are only going to be two final fantasys then I suggest not 7 and 10. Seeing as how they are they are bad and all.

Minority opinion, good sir.

Rapture
10-04-2004, 11:55 AM
These are the games currently in it.

Morrowind
Secret of Evermore
Final Fantasy X
Fallout
Might and Magic
Wild Arms
Ultima
Baldur's Gate
Wizardry (6)
Xenogears
Tales of Symphonia
Terranigma
Chrono Trigger
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Wars: KoToR
Final Fantasy VI
Ragnarok
Skies of Aarcadia Legends
Dark Cloud 2
Breath of Fire
Dragon Quest
Final Fantasy VII
Shenmue
Kingdom Hearts
[B]Earthbound (for Ndi)
Vagrant Story
Diablo 2
Planescape: Torment
Grandia
Suikoden
Neverwinter Night

32!

OK, Shenmue's gone.

Battle 18
Neverwinter night

vs.

Diablo 2

Any disagreeets toi this list, make it known - but only if other people agree.

RottenMilkman
10-04-2004, 06:38 PM
Diablo 2

As much as I like Neverwinter Nights, it had more than it's share of problems. The internet play is a joke, the single-player game is created fairly amateurly and the combat is quite unbalanced.

Diablo 2 has quick, fun gameplay, with a great online multiplayer. However the game gets old fairly quick, and is more item hunting than actual gameplay after a while.

Diablo 2 is a better game while it lasts, and therefore gets the win from me, but I would be more likely to go back and play Neverwinter Nights than Diablo 2.

Rabid Monkey
10-04-2004, 08:45 PM
I honestly don't know which one to pick. Both of the games are great in their own right. Diablo 2 has a much better multiplayer system, like milkman said, but Neverwinter Nights is much more complex with character development, allowing for greater diversity. I liked the battle system in Diablo 2 better as well because I had to constantly be doing something. In NWN I can often times just sit there and let my character hack away without even touching the keyboard or mouse.

What I like about NWN over D2 the most is the puzzles that are included, as well as side quests. D2 is pretty much straight forward. You hack and slash your way though the game with no real deviation. Sure there are side areas but they don't have anything to do with the story or the development of your character beyond finding a better item (again something that milkman touched on).

When it comes to overall enjoyment I think I would take D2 over NWN though, it was basically Evercrack for me. There was always some new aspect of the game that I was exploring. Originally it was just playing the game and making a character that was capable of a solo hell rush. Then it became developing the perfect MFing character, and then working on alternate builds like a melee sorc (which I must say kicked ass) and elemental druids. When I finally stopped playing I had been involved in Low Level Dueling, which was a really fun aspect of the game that so few people knew about.

So, to cut to the chase, I pick D2 as well.

Venom
10-04-2004, 10:35 PM
Diablo 2

Hogan
10-04-2004, 10:39 PM
I will have to go with NWN just because of quickly I grew tired of Diablo 2. It was good but it was so repetive and NWN's moding community just seems much to be so much better.

Prak
10-05-2004, 06:16 AM
I hated Diablo 2, just like I hated Diablo. Just like I hate all the myriad clones of them.

Neverwinter Nights was somewhat flawed, but it was superior overall.

Raidenex
10-05-2004, 06:46 AM
NeverWinter Nights

Diablo's click-and-slash gameplay never really appealed to me.

Mickrulz
10-05-2004, 08:54 AM
I also liked Neverwinter Nights. Just the game was too simple and didn't last long enough. Should have a longer story and have more side quests.

KREAYSHAWN
10-05-2004, 12:43 PM
Ah... Diablo 2.

cloudstriferocksbigtime
10-06-2004, 09:43 PM
* huge quote of the first page, which shows this guy obviously didn't read the rest - Rdx *

ive played timesplitters2 which rocks. i cant wait for the third one to come out. ive played a few others aswell

EDIT by Raidenex - Please read the topic before posting - we are done with the First Person Shooter rumble, and this isn't a thread just asking for your opinion. If you read through the thread, you would realize we vote through the games two at a time in a democratic way. At the moment, we've moved onto RPGs, and the vote is between NeverWinter Nights and Diablo 2.

Zikan
10-07-2004, 08:43 AM
Diablo 2 gets the vote. Hack-and-slash-and-grab-the-stash action at it's best. To each his own I suppose, but it does'nt seem too popular with the Hard core ppl...... maybe it's the lack of the story......

uhh.....Rabid Monkey, a melee soc you say? That's new..... most of the time the soc plays on the ability to blast the shit out of players at long range.... what was the soc using? a giant ax? mine was using one at one stage, and the only reason i did it that way was because I had the tendency to run out of mana at hell..... not funny when you are surrounded by oblivion knights...

Rapture
10-07-2004, 05:00 PM
OK, I need to sort myself out, haven't been on for quite a while.

Neverwinter Nights - 4
Diablo 2 - 6

So, it started of a walkover, but then the votes for NWN came in, which made this round fairly close.

Battle 19

Earthbound

vs.

Kingdom Hearts

RottenMilkman
10-07-2004, 05:16 PM
Earthbound because of classic SNES goodness, and I dispise Kingdom Hearts more than any person should be capable of hating a game.

KREAYSHAWN
10-07-2004, 05:52 PM
Earthbound, same reasons as lokiman.

hb smokey
10-07-2004, 07:41 PM
<B>Earthbound</B>. Kingdom Hearts doesn't have Ness.

Rabid Monkey
10-08-2004, 01:15 AM
uhh.....Rabid Monkey, a melee soc you say? That's new..... most of the time the soc plays on the ability to blast the shit out of players at long range.... what was the soc using? a giant ax? mine was using one at one stage, and the only reason i did it that way was because I had the tendency to run out of mana at hell..... not funny when you are surrounded by oblivion knights...

I was using a 7/8 Gaze, SS, Bstar (because sorc elemental masteries added damage to elemental damaging weapons in 1.09), Waterwalks, a 25% Mara's (I think), 2 5% BK rings, 8% string, Naj's Light Plate, and a crafted set of blood gloves that gave me something like 20 stats and 5% ll. I also had a lot of charms in my inventory that I honestly couldn't tell you. If I remember right they were a lot of sharps and stuff, but I don't remember for sure.

Basically I used a HF merc. I would hack away as I cast firewall. I didn't use ES because I had really low mana. I just maxed all my masteries and FW, then put the extra points in Shiver armor. I needed something like 297 dex for max block with Storm (that was total). Most of my damage came from elemental damage so I only used as much str as I needed to use my equipment and put the rest into vit. It worked really well.

Raidenex
10-08-2004, 01:20 AM
Kingdom Hearts.

The story had me enthralled from the beginning, and the inclusino of FF characters in a Disney universe highly appealed to me, and it was a terrific way of introducing my fiance to gaming.

Earthbound I could never really get into - I disliked the graphics, and first person turn based battle systems always bugged me (which is why I can't stand most RPG Maker stuff).

Mickrulz
10-08-2004, 01:43 AM
Haven'r played Earthbound yet so Kingdom Hearts it is.

TCK
10-08-2004, 01:45 AM
Although I have never played Earthbound (and by the sound of it it's a pity too), I'm voting for it, simply because I despised KH.

Prak
10-08-2004, 02:26 AM
Earthbound

Hogan
10-10-2004, 03:37 AM
Earthbound

Pat
10-10-2004, 03:58 AM
earthbound

Gast
10-10-2004, 10:49 AM
kingdom hearts

Zikan
10-10-2004, 02:23 PM
Never heard of Earthbound so Kingdom hearts it is. Though I must admit, I don't really know the snes side very well. I like PS a lot....:-D

TCK
10-10-2004, 04:38 PM
Well, this rumble turned to shit.

RottenMilkman
10-11-2004, 11:10 PM
I'm going to hijack this thread if Rapture doesn't get in here and finish what he started

>=O

Aerith Gainsborough
10-11-2004, 11:49 PM
Kingdom Hearts

hb smokey
10-12-2004, 01:27 AM
Rapture and I have had a conversation about what to do if he isn't here to update the rumble after three days. He said that I can go ahead and do it, since it has been four. So, let's end this very competitive battle, and get another one started.

Earthbound-7
Kingdom Hearts-5

<B>Battle 20</B>

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - The king of the star wars games, and arguably the best RPG released on the xbox. It's long, it's dramatic, and it's set 2000 years before anything involving the Skywalkers.

vs.

Baldur's Gate - Beard time, kiddies. it's your typical "i have a lineage that means I'm a child of pure evil" type stuff, pulled off with style and panache that hadn't been seen in a PC RPG for a long time.

NOTE: Special thanks to mrmonkeyman for the great bios of both games. I vote for <B>KOTOR</B>. IMO, it's by-far the best Star Wars game to date, and is arguably the best Xbox game out on the market as of now.

mrmonkeyman
10-12-2004, 01:30 AM
I vote for KOTOR. It's just so much more dramatic than BG.

RottenMilkman
10-12-2004, 01:51 AM
I feel bad about voting for KOTOR considering it is ran off pretty much the same engine as the original Baldur's Gate game was all those years ago. But time does make things better, and KOTOR was an absolutely great game.

Prak
10-12-2004, 06:05 AM
My avatar says to vote for KOTOR, even though I still love Baldur's Gate.

Rapture
10-12-2004, 09:51 AM
Thanks Smokey. Trouble with the net. Seems I didn't do this round, I vote KoToR

Hogan
10-12-2004, 11:50 PM
BG simply a great game.

Raidenex
10-13-2004, 12:04 AM
It's long, it's dramatic, and it's set 2000 years before anything involving the Skywalkers.

Unless you happened to name your character Exeter Skywalker....

The force is with KOTOR in this one. The best RPG, nay, the best game created IMO.

Mickrulz
10-13-2004, 09:36 AM
KOTOR

Rapture
10-13-2004, 10:49 AM
A little look at the games, due to boredom.

Morrowind
Secret of Evermore
Final Fantasy X
Might and Magic
Wild Arms
Ultima
Wizardry (6)
Xenogears
Tales of Symphonia
Terranigma
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Wars: KoToR
Final Fantasy VI
Ragnarok
Skies of Aarcadia Legends
Dark Cloud 2
Breath of Fire
Dragon Quest
Final Fantasy VII
Earthbound (for Ndi)
Vagrant Story
Diablo 2
Planescape: Torment
Grandia
Suikoden

Zikan
10-13-2004, 02:36 PM
KoToR gets the vote. gorgeous graphics and all that jazz.... plus it is in the star wars universe before Gorge ruined it!

KREAYSHAWN
10-14-2004, 02:07 PM
KOTOR.

Neo Xzhan
10-14-2004, 07:36 PM
Though KotoR is indeed the best Star Wars game to date, I highly am baised for Baldurs Gate. I don't think I've ever loved a game like that before.

Rapture
10-15-2004, 11:30 AM
Well, a nice round, with KoToR coming out victorous.

KoToR - 8
Baldurs Gate - 2

Battle 21
Final Fantasy VII (not really needing to put any explanations here, you'll need to decide for yourself)

vs.

Breath of Fire (Someone will have to tell me about this one...)

Rabid Monkey
10-15-2004, 08:22 PM
Breath of Fire.

I hate Breath of Fire for its crap ending but I loath FF7. It�s like the 2000 presidential election all over again.

RottenMilkman
10-15-2004, 08:50 PM
Final Fantasy 7, because I dislike nearly every Breath of Fire game, and FF7 started a whole new generation of games trying to copy it, and some of them were pretty good as well.

Prak
10-15-2004, 09:01 PM
Gah... I hate them both.

I think I'll vote for Final Fantasy VII because I want to see it get smashed by either a really good game or a really crappy one, not a mediocre one.

Venom
10-15-2004, 10:34 PM
final fantasy VII

Neo Xzhan
10-15-2004, 11:29 PM
FFVII because I haven't played BoF.

Raidenex
10-16-2004, 01:20 AM
Final Fantasy VII, because it's still the second best Final Fantasy, not to mention the one that got me hooked on the series in the first place.

All the n00bie worship is not a good reason to put down a good game :(

Rabid Monkey
10-16-2004, 01:45 AM
Final Fantasy VII, because it's still the second best Final Fantasy, not to mention the one that got me hooked on the series in the first place.

All the n00bie worship is not a good reason to put down a good game :(

Thread 16724 How about those reasons instead?

Hogan
10-16-2004, 02:52 AM
I didn't really like the BoF series that much and I did like FF7</B> so that is what I will vote for.

RottenMilkman
10-16-2004, 07:16 PM
Thread 16724 How about those reasons instead?

I'm not going to argue too much, except to say that everything has been done before, the other RPG's you mentioned that were better than FF7 got their ideas, plotlines, and gameply from other games, movies, and stories as well... but to me it really just boils down to what Raidenex said, you are disliking the game mainly because everybody else likes it and therefore you are looking for reasons to hate it.

Rabid Monkey
10-16-2004, 07:30 PM
I'm not going to argue too much, except to say that everything has been done before, the other RPG's you mentioned that were better than FF7 got their ideas, plotlines, and gameply from other games, movies, and stories as well... but to me it really just boils down to what Raidenex said, you are disliking the game mainly because everybody else likes it and therefore you are looking for reasons to hate it.

Oh of curse. After all, if I dislike a Final Fantasy game on this forum and then state why, not mentioning anything other than the FF game and other video games, I MUST be doing so because "everybody else" likes it. :rolleyes:

/sarcasm

Zikan
10-17-2004, 10:40 AM
Whew! I thought that i missed a rumble here as well! whew.

Final Fantasy 7 gets my vote because it was the thing that got me hooked onto the Final Fantasy universe. And on hindsight, I should have recommended Quest for glory instead of Breathe of fire. Damn!

I know that there are a lot of people who hate FF7 but hating it just because everybody else likes it is a very lame excuse. (NO slight intended to Rabidmonkey, this is referring to other ppl) Then again, ppl don't need a very good reason to hate something so I guess they could say it is legit for them........It is a free world after all.

Raidenex
10-17-2004, 02:34 PM
Thread 16724 How about those reasons instead?

I know it's not perfect...

but I like it :(

KREAYSHAWN
10-17-2004, 04:56 PM
Breath of Fire, easily. =|

Rapture
10-19-2004, 09:24 AM
Another nice round.

Breath of Fire - 2
Final Fantasy VII - 7

Battle 22

Fallout

vs.

Ultima

Zikan
10-19-2004, 01:12 PM
Oh here is another pretty kettle of fishes! Okay, Votes goes to Fallout but Ultima is a seriously good game. BUt Fall out gets the vote because of the Bad language and the seriously funny perks, like jinxed....... Ah the good old days, where Graphics were not seriously considered when a game was determined to be good or Bad.......

KREAYSHAWN
10-19-2004, 01:17 PM
Ultima, even though I think it is going to lose. ;(

RottenMilkman
10-19-2004, 02:46 PM
Wow, I can't vote on this one :( Haven't played either.... ever.

Prak
10-19-2004, 02:54 PM
Ultima

Mickrulz
10-19-2004, 11:48 PM
Ultima

Hogan
10-19-2004, 11:49 PM
Fallout

Raidenex
10-20-2004, 12:08 AM
Ultima - even though I never played the game, reading the walkthrough actually kept me interested one day o_O

I tried playing the game after that, but it reads better than it plays =/

hb smokey
10-20-2004, 05:40 AM
I have played more <B>Fallout</B> than Ultima, and have thus far been more pleased with it. It has impressed me more.

Rapture
10-24-2004, 02:58 PM
Sorry about the long delay, problems with a capital P in the past few weeks.
This was a good round again, with it being very close indeed.

Fallout - 3
Ultima - 4

Ultima, one of the few games on the list that I haven't played has got through, so I may have to play it sometime.

Battle 23

Chrono Trigger (Great graphics at the time, very few Square Enix games pass this, Yasunori Mitsuda, I think thats how you spell the name, made an excelent job of the soundrack, and the character profiles are done to the finest detail)

vs.

Super Mario RPG: LoTSS (Great game, well thought out battle system, very addictive, humourous dialogue, excelent graphics and great replay value)

What more can I say, from my point of view this should be a very close battle....



FIGHT!!!

Zikan
10-24-2004, 03:44 PM
Chrono Triggergets the vote. If the soundtrack of the sequel is anything to go by, it should be good as well. BUt Super Mario Rpg has some good points as well...... But I like Squaresoft games...... still fuming abou the fact that Fallout lost to Ultima.....:-(

Huntress Krystle
10-24-2004, 05:26 PM
yea it's a close battle. but im gonna have to go with chrono trigger..

hb smokey
10-24-2004, 05:47 PM
Oh wow, I wish these two weren't in battle this early. This would have made an excellent Quarter-Final match or better. But I'm going to have to vote for <B>Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars</B>. Unfortunately, one of these awesome games will be eliminated sooner than I hoped.

KREAYSHAWN
10-24-2004, 05:51 PM
Super Mario RPG, because!

Venom
10-24-2004, 08:00 PM
Chrono trigger

grn apple tree
10-24-2004, 11:03 PM
chrono trigger

Raidenex
10-24-2004, 11:38 PM
Super Mario RPG is a fantastic romp - with a great system, and a great game to introduce the younger crowd to RPGs. However, it can't stand up against Chrono Trigger's gripping emotional storyline and battle system... the game is a true classic.

Hogan
10-25-2004, 02:48 AM
Poor Super Mario RPG having to leave so early.

RottenMilkman
10-25-2004, 04:06 PM
Super Mario RPG

Hilariously funny, and one of the best made RPG's on the SNES. I love it.

Rapture
10-25-2004, 05:39 PM
Oh wow, I wish these two weren't in battle this early. This would have made an excellent Quarter-Final match or better. But I'm going to have to vote for <B>Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars</B>. Unfortunately, one of these awesome games will be eliminated sooner than I hoped.

I know. GOD DAMN RANDOM CHOOSING

Neo Xzhan
10-25-2004, 06:30 PM
Chrono Trigger. Multiple endings and spells/techniques that can be performed by 2-3 party members is just awesome.

Rapture
10-28-2004, 03:53 PM
Well, well, well, a very competitive round here.

Chrono Trigger - 5
Super Mario RPG - 5

OMG!? A Draw? I really don't know what to say...

Geez, I wish it weren't in MY HANDS!

OK, seriously now, i am going to put the two in a hat.

*Puts the two games in a hat*

and mix them around...

*Mixes them around*

And chose one...

*Choses one...*


SUPER MARIO RPG!

So Mario advances, Sorry, all those Chrono series fans!


A little look at the current games in the rumble.
Morrowind
Secret of Evermore
Final Fantasy X
Might and Magic
Wild Arms
Ultima
Wizardry (6)
Xenogears
Tales of Symphonia
Terranigma
Secret of Mana
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Star Wars: KoToR
Final Fantasy VI
Ragnarok
Skies of Aarcadia Legends
Dark Cloud 2
Dragon Quest
Final Fantasy VII
Earthbound (for Ndi)
Vagrant Story
Diablo 2
Planescape: Torment
Grandia
Suikoden


Battle 24

Vagrant Story (A ground-breaking game. A melange of the action, adventure and RPG genres, Square has truly beaten all odds and produced an engaging, seamless epic unlike any other. Despite a few interface and complexity issues, Vagrant Story is a rare and nearly perfected game.


vs.

Wizardry (6) (One of the first and best First-person RPG's. Very story driven, extremely complex, and is the basis of nearly every pc rpg to date. Wizardry 6 was the pennacle, with cool new 16bit color graphics and a great storyline. Overall excellent experience for anybody who enjoys PC RPG's)

RottenMilkman
10-28-2004, 04:13 PM
Wizardry

One of the first and best First-person RPG's. Very story driven, extremely complex, and is the basis of nearly every pc rpg to date. Wizardry 6 was the pennacle, with cool new 16bit color graphics and a great storyline. Overall excellent experience for anybody who enjoys PC RPG's.

As for my opinion on Vagrants Story:

I played the game when it was first released, didn't really care for it much from what I remember. I keep hearing people say it's a great game now and think "Wow... um... did I play a different game?", because to me it seemed extremely generic. Also I get sick of playing male characters with female names... farking Ashley.

TCK
10-28-2004, 07:44 PM
Haha, a pleasant shock to see CT knocked out.

I haven't played either, so I can't vote.

KREAYSHAWN
10-28-2004, 10:37 PM
Vagrant Story.

Venom
10-28-2004, 11:05 PM
Vagrant story

Raidenex
10-29-2004, 12:10 AM
I haven't played Wizardry, so this isn't really a fair vote, but Vagrant Story is in my top 10 RPGs of all time - just for the beautifully realized world of Lea Monde, the revolutionary (for its time) battle system, weapon synthesis, and a deep gripping storyline... all in all, one of Square's best works on the PlayStation.

Hogan
10-29-2004, 01:55 AM
Vagrant Story

Toastie!
10-29-2004, 07:06 AM
Gotta be Vagrant Story

Aerith Gainsborough
10-29-2004, 10:01 AM
Vagrant Story

Mickrulz
10-29-2004, 10:46 AM
Vagrant Story, haven't played the other one.

RottenMilkman
10-29-2004, 02:11 PM
Vagrant Story

You people are losers :(

Zikan
10-29-2004, 03:27 PM
Glad to see that Loki still has not lost his teeth yet. :-D

Havn't played both games so can't give a decent vote. Heard say that Vagrant story is good though. I'm not voting on vagrant story I wanted to buy Wizardary 8 but i could not buy the game in time before stocks run out..... real shame.

damn, cT out? damnit!

Neo Xzhan
10-29-2004, 06:01 PM
Wizardry by a LONG shot.

grn apple tree
10-31-2004, 01:06 AM
vagrant story

Rapture
11-01-2004, 12:57 PM
Not a very competitive round here then Milkman!

Vagrant Story - 9
Wizardry - 1

Battle 25

Final Fantasy X (Theres so many opinions on this, I have to leave it to you)

vs.

Dragon Quest (Nice game, good storyline, but what did it for me, was the battle system)

Prak
11-01-2004, 12:59 PM
Final Fantasy X

Aerith Gainsborough
11-01-2004, 02:02 PM
Final Fantasy X

hb smokey
11-01-2004, 06:13 PM
Even though I really enjoyed Dragon Quest when I played it, it's been so long since I have. But there isn't any game within the past two or three years which I've played as much as <B>Final Fantasy X</B>. It's just such a brilliant game.

KREAYSHAWN
11-01-2004, 06:17 PM
Dragon Quest

Neo Xzhan
11-01-2004, 06:55 PM
Not a very competitive round here then Milkman!

Vagrant Story - 9
Wizardry - 1

If you count CORRECTLY, then you'd have noticed Milkman and me voted for Wizardry. Not that it would have made alot of difference, but stil...

Dragon Quest was good, Final Fantasy X was way better. So my vote goes to FFX.

RottenMilkman
11-01-2004, 09:35 PM
I dislike both of these games, but I guess I'll vote for FFX

Raidenex
11-01-2004, 11:53 PM
Final Fantasy X - My favourite Final Fantasy, and my second-favourite game of all time.

Venom
11-02-2004, 12:24 AM
Final Fantasy X - My favourite Final Fantasy, and my second-favourite game of all time.what is your favorite game of all time, anyway final fantasy X of course

Zikan
11-02-2004, 04:31 AM
Final Fantasy X gets the vote. I just like the story. NOt to say that it was agood one but stil better then most. :-D

Huntress Krystle
11-04-2004, 02:53 AM
Final Fantasy X

fighnahl
11-04-2004, 03:13 AM
ffx- the best rpg game made by all video gaming companies. square enix really accomplished this project!

Rapture
11-04-2004, 01:03 PM
Only one vote for Dragon Quest here!

Final Fantasy X - 10

Dragon Quest - 1

Battle 26

Wild Arms

vs.

Final Fantasy VI



FIGHT!

KREAYSHAWN
11-04-2004, 01:23 PM
o dear.

I will give Wild ARMs a token nod as it enters the impossible to win round. ;(

Prak
11-04-2004, 01:25 PM
I'll vote for Wild Arms because it would be hilarious to see it win.

RottenMilkman
11-04-2004, 02:17 PM
FFVI because it is BETTER >:O

Neo Xzhan
11-04-2004, 02:57 PM
Wild Arms is an awesome game. Though FFVI is just a little better. So my vote goes to FFVI.

Zikan
11-04-2004, 03:23 PM
Wild arms for me

Aerith Gainsborough
11-04-2004, 04:50 PM
Final Fantasy VI

Raidenex
11-05-2004, 12:04 AM
Final Fantasy VI.

It's a terrific game, and the epitome of 2D RPGs.

If Wild Arms wins on pity votes, like Super Mario RPG did, it will be hilarious.

PWX
11-05-2004, 12:15 AM
This is a pretty wank match-up.

I'm going to vote Wild Arms just so it doesn't get creamed so badly.

Hogan
11-05-2004, 01:06 AM
If everyone votes for Wild Arms because it is going to lose so badly then it isn't going to lose so badly and it could win. I personally do not think that this would be a good thing so I will put Final Fantasy VI in bold.

hb smokey
11-05-2004, 01:27 AM
I think <B>FFVI</B> is the better game, so that gets my vote.

Huntress Krystle
11-05-2004, 01:40 AM
Final Fantasy VI

Shiori
11-07-2004, 09:33 PM
Final Fantasy VI

Rapture
11-11-2004, 12:54 PM
Final fantasy VI gets the expected upper hand in this battle.

Final Fantasy VI - 8
Wild Arms - 3

Battle 27

Might and Magic

vs.

Grandia

Neo Xzhan
11-11-2004, 01:22 PM
Haha no challenge there, Grandia takes the cake walk here.

Prak
11-11-2004, 01:34 PM
Yup. I can't see a single reason to not vote for Grandia.

Pos
11-11-2004, 02:06 PM
Grandia rules

RottenMilkman
11-11-2004, 03:19 PM
Might and Magic


:(

Shiori
11-11-2004, 11:38 PM
Grandia

Raidenex
11-11-2004, 11:44 PM
I haven't played Grandia, and I found Might and Magic to be a trifle slow, so I'll withold my vote on this one.

Heroes of Might and Magic was excellent, though.

Huntress Krystle
11-12-2004, 04:11 AM
Grandia

KREAYSHAWN
11-12-2004, 04:04 PM
Grandia!

Hurrah!

Zikan
11-14-2004, 09:20 AM
Might and magic.

Mickrulz
11-14-2004, 09:23 AM
Might and Magic.

Rapture
11-14-2004, 02:15 PM
A nice round here, with Grandia, the Playstation One RPG coming victorious.

Might and Magic- 3
Grandia - 6

Battle 28


Secret of Evermore

vs.

Ragnarok

RottenMilkman
11-14-2004, 05:12 PM
Secret of Evermore

For no other reason than BECAUSE I SAID SO >:O

Venom
11-14-2004, 08:22 PM
Secret of Evermore

hb smokey
11-14-2004, 10:45 PM
<B>Secret of Evermore</B>, one of my favorite RPG's.

Raidenex
11-15-2004, 12:41 AM
Secret of Evermore.

I don't really mind that it was an Americanized version of the Mana series, it was still great fun to play :D

Not to mention it was the first Square RPG I ever saw.

Hogan
11-15-2004, 03:11 AM
Secret of Evermore

Zikan
11-15-2004, 10:55 AM
I still don't recall Ragnarok....... Anybody here care to tell me what it is about?

Oh by the way, I'm sitting this one out....... don't know the games....:(

Mickrulz
11-15-2004, 11:04 AM
Secret of Evermore

KREAYSHAWN
11-15-2004, 11:33 AM
Secret of Evermore

RottenMilkman
11-15-2004, 03:46 PM
I still don't recall Ragnarok....... Anybody here care to tell me what it is about?

Oh by the way, I'm sitting this one out....... don't know the games....:(

Ragnarok is a silly MMORPG that tried to compete for a while and got a small following, but really just kinda sucked.

Huntress Krystle
11-16-2004, 06:28 AM
Secret of Evermore

Aerith Gainsborough
11-16-2004, 10:05 AM
Secret of Evermore

Zikan
11-16-2004, 02:40 PM
So it's the Raganrok online right? Okay, so that's the one....... I suppose everybody is waiting for WoW since it went Gold huh? :-D

RottenMilkman
11-23-2004, 07:37 PM
Rapture... get this shit started again or I'm going to take over >:O

Neo Xzhan
11-23-2004, 10:33 PM
Ragnarok is a silly MMORPG that tried to compete for a while and got a small following, but really just kinda sucked.

Actually you're wrong, Ragnarok isn't a MMORPG but Ragnarok Online is.

Still I'd have to go with Secret of Evermore.

Adamski
11-23-2004, 10:33 PM
secret of evermore

RottenMilkman
11-23-2004, 10:37 PM
Actually you're wrong, Ragnarok isn't a MMORPG but Ragnarok Online is.

Still I'd have to go with Secret of Evermore.

oh? hrm...

I guess I'll go look up this Ragnarok game, I just assumed it was RO.



Edit:

We're you trying to make a joke by referring to the Norse day of destruction Ragnarok. If so, not funny :\

Especially since I thought you were serious >:O

Neo Xzhan
11-23-2004, 10:43 PM
I wasn't referring to mythology since it has little do with this rumble. So I'm not to blame for any of that but you are, for making false assumptions.

RottenMilkman
11-23-2004, 10:53 PM
I wasn't referring to mythology since it has little do with this rumble. So I'm not to blame for any of that but you are, for making false assumptions.

I can't find any game by the name of Ragnarok though :( so I don't know what you are talking about

Hogan
11-24-2004, 12:44 AM
Loki you should just take over seeing as this is the only good rumble around it would be better if you were doing it. Also we need to get out of the RPGs.

RottenMilkman
11-24-2004, 03:22 PM
Okay, hijacked.

If anybody has any arguments about me running this rumble, pm me.

Last Round

Secret of Evermore - 11
Ragnarok - 0




Next Round

Dark Cloud 2

VS

Suikoden

Dark Cloud 2 - This sequel to the popular RPG takes place in one town and across time. When a town is devastated by an evil time traveler, Max joins the swordswoman Monica to track him down and rebuild their world. Monica also has magic abilities, and Max uses an invention system to create new items. The game features a more advanced combat engine than its predecessor, and time travel means our heroes must rebuild towns in both the present and the future, jumping through time to monitor their handiwork.

Suikoden - The first game in the Suikoden series follows Tir* McDohl as he becomes a fugitive from the corrupt empire ruling the land around him. Densely layered conflicts and betrayals abound, creating a wonderful story that compares to (and often outdoes) many more well-known games.

Now Vote.

Adamski
11-24-2004, 05:35 PM
dark cloud 2

Huntress Krystle
11-24-2004, 06:13 PM
Suikoden 3

Shiori
11-24-2004, 11:15 PM
Dark Cloud 2

Raidenex
11-24-2004, 11:36 PM
I haven't played either, so I really can't pass judgement on this one =/

Prak
11-25-2004, 08:44 AM
Suikoden

Aerith Gainsborough
11-25-2004, 09:53 AM
Suikoden

Pos
11-25-2004, 09:53 AM
suikoden

KREAYSHAWN
11-25-2004, 10:36 AM
Suikoden

RottenMilkman
11-25-2004, 04:38 PM
Last Round

Dark Cloud 2 - 2
Suikoden - 5





Next Round

Skies of Arcadia Legends

VS

Xenogears



Skies of Arcadia Legends - In this fantasy title, you belong to a group of "air pirates" who float through the skies on giant ships. You steal from the rich, engage in adventures, do battle and use customizable weaponry. This RPG was originally released by Sega for its now defunct console. However, this isn't just a straight port for the GameCube. New enhancements include back-story elements, improved graphics and a modified battle system.

Xenogears - A mysterious organization is turning the tides of a century-long war with ancient technology-giant combat robots. A failed attempt to steal one of these powerful mechanized weapons places it in the unwilling hands of young Fei and his dubious allies.Now he is pursued by military governments, royal pirates, spies, the emperor, and his own forgotten past. Over 20 minutes of stunning hand-drawn anime' tells this complex, futuristic tale. Battle in giant robots or hand-to-hand using intuitive combat systems without menus. Explore detailed, fully-rotatable polygonal environments.

grn apple tree
11-25-2004, 07:40 PM
xeno gears

KREAYSHAWN
11-25-2004, 08:27 PM
Skies of Arcadia

Raidenex
11-26-2004, 12:10 AM
Xenogears...

I have never wanted a game I couldn't have as much as this ;_;

Neo Xzhan
11-26-2004, 12:13 AM
Well I've never played Xenogears so I'll have to go with Skies of Arcadia, which however is an awesome game.

hb smokey
11-26-2004, 01:31 AM
<B>Skies of Arcadia Legends</B>, which quickly became one of my favorite games, let alone the fact that I think it's excellent.

Mickrulz
11-26-2004, 07:59 AM
Skies of Arcadia Legends

Pos
11-26-2004, 09:22 AM
skies of arcadia legends almost finished it such a cool game

Aerith Gainsborough
11-26-2004, 10:14 AM
Skies of Arcadia Legends

Shiori
11-26-2004, 08:15 PM
Xenogears

Hogan
11-26-2004, 08:46 PM
Xenogears

RottenMilkman
11-27-2004, 08:18 PM
Last Round

Skies of Arcadia Legends - 6
Xenogears - 4





Next Round

Tales of Symphonia

VS

Terranigma


Tales of Symphonia - The fate of two worlds rests in your hands! Welcome to Namco's Tales universe with this exclusive Tales of Symphonia release, a beautifully crafted, Anime-style 3D action adventure. Featuring designs by famed artist Kosuke Fujishima, Tales of Symphonia graphics are cel-shaded and 3-dimensional. Real-time battles in full-on 3D are intense and riveting, allowing for countless combos and special attacks with up to 4 players at once! Enjoy over 80 hours of epic storylines, including fully customizable characters and several mini-games and side-quests.

Terranigma - Terranigma is an action/role playing game published by Enix in 1995 for the Super Nintendo video game system. Terranigma is the third game in the Soul blazer series from Enix, which include Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia. The story begins as Ark, resident of Crysta, discovers a magical "Pandora's Box" containing a floating pink blob named Yomi. At first their goal was to save the villagers of Crysta, but it appears as though they have a much larger task at hand. Ark must awaken the sleeping world above and resurrect life on the planet's surface.

grn apple tree
11-27-2004, 08:22 PM
ummm i don't either so i'll just say Tales of Symphonia

Zikan
11-28-2004, 01:52 AM
Oh my god, I'm like out for a week and I passed by 2 rumbles in a matter of 2 days???

Milkman, DOn't go so fast, as least 3 days or 2 days please? I can't go online everyday, and I really support this Rumble. so please?

OKay my vote goes to Tales of Symphonia

hb smokey
11-28-2004, 04:36 AM
<B>Tales of Symphonia</B>. Easily the greatest RPG that I've played on the Gamecube to date.

Mickrulz
11-28-2004, 05:11 AM
Tales of Symphonia

Wonderer_Nick
11-28-2004, 05:37 AM
Terranigma

RottenMilkman
11-29-2004, 02:35 AM
Oh my god, I'm like out for a week and I passed by 2 rumbles in a matter of 2 days???

Milkman, DOn't go so fast, as least 3 days or 2 days please? I can't go online everyday, and I really support this Rumble. so please?

OKay my vote goes to Tales of Symphonia

Zikan, unless there are other people that want me to go slower, I'm going to try to do one every day or every other day, depending on my schedule and the number of voters. Me, along with a few other people are ready to finish the RPG portion of this rumble and move on to something else.

If anybody disagrees with me going this fast, post and let me know.

hb smokey
11-29-2004, 04:48 AM
I don't want this rumble lasting three days per battle. I would prefer it to be two days for each one, but I wouldn't get upset if there was updates everyday. Either way, I'm fine with it.

Aerith Gainsborough
11-29-2004, 02:31 PM
Tales of Symphonia

RottenMilkman
11-29-2004, 11:42 PM
Not very many replies in that round, but moving on regardless

Last Round

Tales of Symphonia - 5
Terranigma - 1





Next Round

Secret of Mana

VS

Planescape: Torment


Secret of Mana - There is one force in the universe that keeps good and evil in perfect balance. It is called the tree of Mana. But a magic sword has tricked a young warrior into upsetting the balance, spreading evil throughout the land. Thus, the warrior must undertake a dangerous journey to find the seeds of the Mara tree which have been hidden for centuries. Only then can perfect harmony be restored. In this incredible adventure, things are not as they seem. Magic swords release evil as well as fight it. Treasure chests hold booby traps. Monsters are friends and friends are enemies. Dragons fly, weapons change. It's a world turned upside down that you must help the warrior make right. And the only way to succeed is to solve the Secret of Mana.

Planescape: Torment - Torment is a traditional role-playing game with an uncommonly detailed story and first-rate graphics and sound. It's set in the complex and interesting Advanced Dungeons & Dragons universe of Planescape, which is a patchwork of wildly different dimensions surrounding a sprawling city that connects them together. In Torment, you play as a nameless character who cannot die and cannot remember his past.

Cloudmeister
11-30-2004, 12:16 AM
er...never heard of these but i'll go for Secret of Mana

hb smokey
11-30-2004, 01:41 AM
<B>Secret of Mana</B>, one of the best RPG's made before the jump to 3-D.

grn apple tree
11-30-2004, 02:10 AM
secret of mana

Prak
11-30-2004, 07:36 AM
Planescape: Torment

Aerith Gainsborough
11-30-2004, 12:26 PM
Planescape: Torment

Raidenex
11-30-2004, 12:58 PM
Secret of Mana. I can't wait until they release it for the DS... an you know it's going to happen.

'New Densetsu Title' my arse.

Zikan
11-30-2004, 01:55 PM
Planetscape: Torment gets my vote.

Milkman, I know that you guys wnat to finish the Rumble as soon as possible, BUt this fast is a bit inconvienent for me and I believe that it is a bit inconvienent for others as well. But you are the master of the Rumble............ I hope that you will take into account the Feelings of others........

Adamski
11-30-2004, 02:01 PM
Secret of Mana

RottenMilkman
11-30-2004, 02:43 PM
Milkman, I know that you guys wnat to finish the Rumble as soon as possible, BUt this fast is a bit inconvienent for me and I believe that it is a bit inconvienent for others as well. But you are the master of the Rumble............ I hope that you will take into account the Feelings of others........

I've asked for other peoples opinions on this matter and the only one I have recieved is Smokey's, who agrees with this speed. If more people besides yourself finds this to be an inconvenience, I'll slow down, but more than one person has expressed their desire to speed the rumble up so that we can finish the RPG's, and that is what I am doing.

As before, if anybody else wishes for me to slow down, please say so... but I'm not going to hold up the rumble just because you can't get on the computer very often Zikan.

Hogan
12-01-2004, 12:13 AM
I <3 Torment so much. My vote goes Planescape: Torment most assuredly</I>.

KREAYSHAWN
12-01-2004, 01:23 AM
Planescape: Torment

I don't see what the big deal was about SoM. =/

Zikan
12-01-2004, 10:40 AM
I've asked for other peoples opinions on this matter and the only one I have recieved is Smokey's, who agrees with this speed. If more people besides yourself finds this to be an inconvenience, I'll slow down, but more than one person has expressed their desire to speed the rumble up so that we can finish the RPG's, and that is what I am doing.

As before, if anybody else wishes for me to slow down, please say so... but I'm not going to hold up the rumble just because you can't get on the computer very often Zikan.

Fair enough. :-D

Hogan
12-02-2004, 07:00 AM
I vote we declare Torment the Winner and move on to a new not over done rumble. But that is just me.

RottenMilkman
12-02-2004, 03:06 PM
Tie this round, so my vote goes to Planescape: Torment

Last Round

Planescape: Torment - 6
Secret of Mana - 5






Next Round

Final Fantasy X

VS

Vagrant Story

Descriptions of the games are listed earlier in the rumble.

KREAYSHAWN
12-02-2004, 03:15 PM
Vagrant Story.

Raidenex
12-02-2004, 03:53 PM
Oh cruel fate, to pit these great RPGs against each other in epic battle -

I would have to go with Final Fantasy X. While I believe that the gameplay, story, character development and greatness factor are equal on both, Final Fantasy X is a more polished game. However, if Vagrant Story had been given ample development time, and PS2 hardware, the story could have been much different =/

Adamski
12-02-2004, 04:46 PM
Final Fantasy X

Mickrulz
12-02-2004, 10:34 PM
Final Fantasy X

Hogan
12-03-2004, 12:12 AM
I haven't played Vargant Story but I do not like Final Fantasy X that much and really don't want it to win.
So =/ Vargant Story =/.

grn apple tree
12-03-2004, 03:47 AM
final fantasy X

Captain Crunch
12-03-2004, 04:11 AM
Vagrant Story

Prak
12-03-2004, 08:20 AM
Final Fantasy X

Haven't played Vagrant Story yet.

Sephiroths Bride
12-03-2004, 08:23 AM
Final Fantasy X

Zikan
12-03-2004, 01:32 PM
Damn, What a rush.......

Vote goes to Final Fantasy X....... don't know much about Vagrant story

Aerith Gainsborough
12-03-2004, 02:03 PM
Final Fantasy X

hb smokey
12-04-2004, 05:04 AM
Meh, going with <B>Final Fantasy X</B>

Fated Forever
12-04-2004, 06:41 PM
Interesting topic.

I'd have to say Final Fantasy X this time round. Part of the reason for that is the fact that I haven't played Vagrant Story &, well, its a Final Fantasy...

UltimateFFFan
12-04-2004, 07:27 PM
Vagrant Story, Sorry FF

RottenMilkman
12-04-2004, 09:54 PM
Last Round

Final Fantasy X - 10
Vagrant Story - 4






Next Round

Secret of Evermore

VS

Earthbound

Descriptions of the games are listed earlier in the rumble.

grn apple tree
12-04-2004, 10:12 PM
Secret of Evermore

Fated Forever
12-04-2004, 10:40 PM
Ooh. Not played either. I'll just keep my mouth shut [well, stop my fingers from typing] this time round.

Over to you...

Adamski
12-04-2004, 10:42 PM
Secret of Evermore

Cloudmeister
12-05-2004, 01:30 AM
Earthbound

chewey
12-05-2004, 01:33 AM
its a tough decision. they were both horrible. But probably Earthbound

KREAYSHAWN
12-05-2004, 01:48 AM
Earthbound

Huntress Krystle
12-05-2004, 10:00 AM
Secret of Evermore

hb smokey
12-05-2004, 07:07 PM
Two really good games, but <B>Secret of Evermore</B> because it was underrated.

mrmonkeyman
12-05-2004, 07:13 PM
Earthbound, because I enjoyed it that much more.

BTW, roffle, I don't know why this wasn't stickied before BUT NOW IT IS.

RottenMilkman
12-06-2004, 02:24 AM
Earthbound, because I enjoyed it that much more.

BTW, roffle, I don't know why this wasn't stickied before BUT NOW IT IS.

Now that you've done this, nobody posted in the thread all day... coincidince... i think not!

Aerith Gainsborough
12-06-2004, 11:58 AM
Secret of Evermore

RottenMilkman
12-06-2004, 07:55 PM
Close one.
Last Round

Earthbound - 4
Secret of Evermore - 5






Next Round
Super Mario RPG

VS

Final Fantasy VII


Hopefully this will be a good match.

Descriptions of the games are listed earlier in the rumble.

KREAYSHAWN
12-06-2004, 08:29 PM
Super Mario RPG

No contest.

hb smokey
12-06-2004, 10:45 PM
Hopefully it won't.

<B>Super Mario RPG</B> was just so excellent.

Raidenex
12-06-2004, 11:52 PM
Final Fantasy VII was a revolutionary game in so many ways, and i'm afraid it will be voted out simply because of the stigma against it. It's almost like Star Trek - a decent science fiction show that is ruined because it's 'not cool' to watch it.

The sheer emotional depth, and gameplay expanse of the game is incredible. Square fully embraced Sony's new console and created an experience that would draw a new generation into Final Fantasy.

Hogan
12-07-2004, 01:19 AM
I like ff7, but I love Super Mario RPG.

grn apple tree
12-07-2004, 02:19 AM
Final Fantasy VII

Sorry Mario but I gotta go with ff 7.

Aerith Gainsborough
12-07-2004, 12:21 PM
Final Fantasy VII :)

Prak
12-07-2004, 12:33 PM
Super Mario RPG

Adamski
12-07-2004, 01:09 PM
Lmao at this round, super mario rpg was a pile of crap.

Final Fantasy VII

chewey
12-07-2004, 01:11 PM
FF7 hands down. But i still enjoyed Super Mario RPG... too bad mario... got another mushroom

Huntress Krystle
12-07-2004, 01:44 PM
Final Fantasy VII.

Hogan
12-07-2004, 02:33 PM
Lmao at this round, super mario rpg was a pile of crap.

How is that exacatly?

Zikan
12-07-2004, 03:05 PM
Final Fantasy 7 gets my vote

Fated Forever
12-07-2004, 07:43 PM
Well, I've not played the Super Mario Rpg so Final Fantasy VII gets my vote.

But, even if I had played it, I'm sure that it wouldn't nab the '[one of] my most loved games of all time' title.

Phhoenyxx
12-07-2004, 10:10 PM
Final Fantasy VII

dreamplayer
12-09-2004, 01:09 PM
ffVII

RottenMilkman
12-09-2004, 03:18 PM
This result makes me sad... very sad.

Last Round

Super Mario RPG - 4
Final Fantasy 7 - 10






Next Round
Ultima

VS

Grandia


Descriptions of the games are listed earlier in the rumble.