Voyager is one of the better treks.

I am watching Space:1999 Year One, and enjoying it. For a series that is over 40 years old, it holds up real good. The FX is still better than CGI today, to me that is.

Space: 1999 was THE show for me, when no new TOS was shown in Germany after its initial run of 39 episodes (1972-74). The first year had some great performances by Martin Landau and Barry Morse, great guest stars (Christopher Lee, Peter Cushing), some quite good stories with mystical elements (e.g. "The Black Sun", "Collision Course", where many big questions of humanity were asked, like "What's our purpose", "What's our destiny", "Is there a greater Being in the Universe looking after us", etc), great SFX (real models, no CGI!), and terrific music (Barry Gray). Year 2 was kind of a let-down, though, in many respects: stories left their edge, characters changed, very bad music (Barry Gray had left the show), etc.

I agree with you completely. I only saw a couple of episodes of Year One when it came out, but it impressed me. I bought the RCA LP of the soundtrack, which I still have. Barry Gray's music helped the action, a lot. Barry Morse was my favorite on the series.

I saw more episodes of Year Two in 1977, I liked them, still had the great FX, but not a fan of the music by Derek Wadsworth. My favorite Wadsworth music was from The Day After Tomorrow:Into Infinity pilot/NBC Special.

... I bought the RCA LP of the soundtrack, which I still have.


So did I! That was the very first release back then, when Compact discs still were science fiction. I played that one countless times, it was great to hear that dramatic music for Breakaway, always gave me goosebumps! That LP is still part of my vinyl collection.

Trivia alert. Nick Tate from 1999 also appears in an episode of TNG and an episode of DS9.

I thought most of Gerry & Sylvia Anderson's catalogue was pretty good stuff. 'Joe 90' and 'Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons' were a couple of my faves along with 'Space 1999'.

AZSneed, that is what I did with Enterprise, looks like that is what I will have to do with Voyager :)

All ST series have their moments, except TOS...it is perfect, like Spock's Brain.:)


As for the Anderson's series, from Fireball XL5 to Captain Scarlet I really like. I have yet to see Supercar. Captain Scarlet was my first set I bought and it was a good one to start with. I though seeing the strings would be a turn off, and I was wrong. Once you get into the story, you forget the strings. That is the power of Gerry Anderson.

Thunderbirds also have string issues, but the acting is less wooden than what's churned out in some new 'blockbuster' films.

Regarding Voyager, I'll vouch for it. It has some great episodes. I'd say the same for DS9 if anyone asks.

Tonight's report on TNG remastered: It was the "Q Who" episode where the Enterprise is forced to confront the Borg for the first time. I'm sure you all know the scene where the cube starts to repair itself and it looks like a reverse play of a clip of some plastic model kit parts being melted with a small torch or heat gun. Unfortunately, it looks the same in the new version. Doh! But the rest of the Borg cube shots look clean and more realistic.

Thunderbirds to me should have been half hour shows, some episodes you could tell was trying to fill the hour and it slowed it down. I agree about your view on the acting is less wooden than what's churned out in some new 'blockbuster' films.

As for changing the FX in TNG, I say leave it. I like some of the TOS "replacement" FX, but some did not need it. So the same might go for TNG.

As I said, Voyager is one series I have not seen much of, but I liked what I did see. DS9 like Enterprise, has it's good and not so. But, both ended lousy for me.

After TOS I like DS9 and TNG about the same. I wasn't into DS9 that much until the Dominion showed up then thing got interesting .

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If there is any wrong doing on Obama's part, the Republicans would have already had him on the street. As such, he has been President for over 6 years, and the article is over a year old and he is still President, I say time to move along, nothing to see here.

Except the fact that all Law he's signed is Null And Void! Guy's, The shit is going to hit the fan this year! Troops are around the U.S. right now training to put civilians in Camps and going door to door taking weapons from the people! Keep your eyes on what's going on, and I don't mean FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC! I just want you to be informed. Many of us will not go without a fight!
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Because of Obama? No, it has been going on for decades, the slow chipping away of our freedoms and values, and the only response has been some protest, and they ain't worked. As for Troops around the U.S. right now training to put civilians in Camps and going door to door taking weapons from the people, it ain't going to happen, and if by a slim chance it does, another Civil War will come. Anyway we lost control of the Country when we gave Government too much power in the guise of PROTECTING OUR FREEDOMS long ago. We have too many life problems to worry about Government, and THAT IS THE PROBLEM!

Well, on a happy note I am 1/2 through season 3 of voyager. Still not impressed but there are some good episodes, not looking at it as pure star trek only sifi. Picked up season 4 so I am hoping for better episodes to come. Part of Voyagers problem is some of the episodes seem to be similar to TNG. As far as what is going on with our Government - it is too big and powerful. Things are swinging too far to the left which seems not to tolerate any view but their own. They use to say to us be tolerate of opposing views now they say get in line and shut up. Sad.

No wonder it is like TNG, just like Enterprise...Rick Berman. You have seen way more than I have of Voyager.

Thunderbirds to me should have been half hour shows, some episodes you could tell was trying to fill the hour and it slowed it down. I agree about your view on the acting is less wooden than what's churned out in some new 'blockbuster' films.

As for changing the FX in TNG, I say leave it. I like some of the TOS "replacement" FX, but some did not need it. So the same might go for TNG.

As I said, Voyager is one series I have not seen much of, but I liked what I did see. DS9 like Enterprise, has it's good and not so. But, both ended lousy for me.


You're right about the length of those shows. Filmmakers ought to consult you before they complete the story-boarding. You'd save them a pile of cash and the audience would be more delighted.

Filmmakes ain't got no sense, I am here, use my talent.

The Borg finally!!!!!!!! things are starting to get interesting on Voyager but they lost another shuttle craft-they have to run out of them soon?

I have been watching a lot of Star Trek TOS and DS9 lately I am just a couple episodes away from finishing TOS season 2 and this season rocks way more than season 1. I am about half way through season 5 of DS9 and really enjoying that too, Trials and Tribbleations was awesome, so much fun to watch. I love the TNG movie uniforms on DS9 Dax looks so good in hers wow. Captain Sisko seems like a really cool guy and I like that he is a baseball fan and I love how Jake isn't annoying like the wonder kid Wesley Crusher. I can't wait to see how DS9 progresses and I love how not every episode has a happy ending like the one where O'Brien was given the memories of being imprisoned for I think 20 years that was a good ep. I love DS9.

Max, replicators.:)

Nitrosis, is this the remastered TOS? Season 2 is the strongest, but, all three have their gems. DS9, is a very good series, which I like a lot. Trials and Tribbleations my all time favorite DS9. When I saw it on TV for the first time, I was grinning the whole episode. I'm glad you are enjoying the series, and it is hard to believe that September 8th of next year that TOS will be 50 years old. I was 8 years old fixing to turn 9 when it debuted.

AZSneed, I was about 10 when TOS 1st came out, I really got into it when I watched the reruns as a teenager.
Nitrosis, I agree about Dax, she sure looked good in that uniform. For the last 10 years or so I watch DS9, TNG and BAB5 once a year-have all 3 on DVD. I recently picked up Star Trek Enterprise and watch it-not bad and now working on season 3 of Voyager which I also just picked up. Didn't see much of either when they came out so they both are new to me.

This year is the 50th of Lost in Space. It started out good, then Batman came out....campy. I still can't watch Batman, too silly.

Anyone hear what is up with Scotty57? is he alright?

I sent emails in February, and March to two different accounts and nothing. I fear the worst.

That doesn't sound good, but there may be a reason for his radio silence. I don't know what issues he's been dealing with, but I know some guys who've had a tough time with acute episodes and taken months to recuperate. And they're living normal lives now. Fingers crossed for Scotty.

Fingers and toes, for sure!

I said a prayer for Scotty57 hope everything is alright. On an up note: I finished year 3 of Voyager-liked the last episode the best. BORG, BORG and more BORG but they get their butts kicked-15 cube ships lost-wish they showed the battle. Nice to see someone can stand up to the Borg but the new bully on the block may be worse they already destroyed a Borg plant. Getting very interesting.

Some good Borg stories on the horizon...

Watched the new Thunderbirds show yesterday, "Thunderbirds Are Go". It's a full cgi affair, and to cut a long story short, I didn't like it very much. I'll spare you the ranting critique. Needless to say the puppet and string deal is superior.

The new Thunderbirds show sounded good when I heard about it, I watched the old shows as a kid. Sorry to hear it was a let down :(

The new Borg...Resistance is Fruity.

I'm not surprised about the new Thunderbirds, I find that you usually can't improve on the original. I still prefer models over CGI.

OK, you Sci-Fi/Horror fans, I found a blog that has scans of pressbooks of many movies, like...Movie Pressbook: Star Trek the Motion Picture (From Zombos' Closet) (http://www.zomboscloset.com/zombos_closet_of_horror_b/2013/05/star-trek-the-motion-picture-pressbook.html)

The new Thunderbirds show sounded good when I heard about it, I watched the old shows as a kid. Sorry to hear it was a let down :(

Yeah, what can you do. I presumed the new show would be similar in principle to the old one which had appeal for all generations. It looks like the target audience of the new show is strictly kids.



The new Borg...Resistance is Fruity.

I'm not surprised about the new Thunderbirds, I find that you usually can't improve on the original. I still prefer models over CGI.

OK, you Sci-Fi/Horror fans, I found a blog that has scans of pressbooks of many movies, like...Movie Pressbook: Star Trek the Motion Picture (From Zombos' Closet) (http://www.zomboscloset.com/zombos_closet_of_horror_b/2013/05/star-trek-the-motion-picture-pressbook.html)

That pressbook is cool. Thanks for the link.

I found the link, by accident, and it was a good one. I saw ones from the Creature, original Wolfman, Hammer horror movies, Ape movies and many more classic movies.

Continued watching Voyager last night- the two part Year of Hell was very good. I decided to pick up the rest of the seasons already have 1-5.

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"Drove my Chevy to the levee? I didn't get it first time round and now I can't get that tune out of my head!"


Yes, tonight's episode of TNGrm was Survivors.

Wasn't that the TNG episode where a powerful alien alone on his plant who recreated his home and human wife after everyone on his plant was killed by an alien race?

Yes. I actually like the episode. It's just that the news story about Don McClain's notes selling for silly money and that episode being shown in the evening gave me the idea for that caption.

I finished part one of the killing game, the hunters are some bad aliens. Except for watching the Hobbit 3 I have been watching Voyager straight through.

Hurry up with watching Voyager, so I can watch it in one sitting.

Just started season 5 last night, I average 4-5 episodes a night.

Is it getting better? Remember, I have only seen Season 1, so I don't know where it goes.

AZSneed, so far there have been several very good episodes each season. I heard the last 3 seasons are the best, I will let you know. I just watch an episode called Drone about the Borg-very good one.

If you would stop watching Voyager, and fix your Transporter, then I could be watching them, too.:)

AZSneed, In season 4 there is a two part episode called Year of Hell which I think is very good.

I saw it mentioned in a magazine. I'm glad you are enjoying the series.

I just finished re-watching Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy. Dark Knight Rises is the best, but the ending is confusing.

I finally heard from Scott tonight, and he is OK, except for having some difficulty with his medication(still) and keeping his balance. He has fallen a couple of times, but, not hurt. Where is McCoy when we need him!

I finally heard from Scott tonight, and he is OK, except for having some difficulty with his medication(still) and keeping his balance. He has fallen a couple of times, but, not hurt. Where is McCoy when we need him!
That's good news, indeed! He probably was deeply buried in a pile of technical manuals and forgot to check the incoming subspace messages for a couple of weeks! Hey Scotty, don't scare us again that much, ol' fellow, will ye?

Kidding aside, tell him to do what the doctor says (even if it's not McCoy!), and a quick recovery! :)

Great!!!! to hear Scotty57 is alright, I pray for a quick recovery -engineering hasn't been the same without him :)

Here's to Scotty rallying back!

Balance eh? That'll be the Scotch.

We need Mr. Scott back soon, I am doing the best I can in Engineering. I hope soon to have the ship moving forward, when I find where I wired it wrong. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER!

Yes we do, the sonic showers have broken down and it is getting rather ripe on board. Soon we will need to beam down to a plant just to get some fresh air-Scotty57 please hurry back.

Oh, so that is the problem, I thought it was the http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/klingone.gif!

Finished season 5 last night plenty of good to great episodes, The last one Equinox is a 2 part cliff hanger.

Sonic showers? What about the sonic toilets. They're backed up the ying yang.

I just finished the Nolan's Batman Trilogy, and my favorite, Burton's Batman, which still has the best live version of the Joker.

Jack Nicholson plays a great joker, he is very good at playing a bad guy. I'm about 1/2 through season 6 of Voyager. Last night watched episodes 10-14 I thought Blink of an eye was the best.

One and a half seasons or less, to go. Is it crunch time?

Watched Batman Returns, not as good, but way better than the other two that followed. I liked Danny, Catwoman, too psycho for me.

Just finished Batman and Robin with Batgirl. Arnold was cool as Freeze, Ivy was also good as a villain, Bane...idiot! It was almost like Batman 1966, but, not that bad.

Now to watch.....Batman Forever.....where is my nausea pills. I can't stand Jim Carrey.

I only like Jim Carrey as a bad guy so I can cheer when he looses :)

I'm wasn't convinced with the Nolan experience either. Spotted the Adam West Batman complete series on Blu-ray in the shop. I'm tempted.

With Batman Begins, I saw the Tumbler and thought, "That ain't a Batmobile." So I passed on the movie, until I found the DVD at a Flea Market.

I have Adam West Batman Movie, and it is too silly to me. I could have bought on ebay the complete series way cheaper than offered now, and I just could not talk myself into buying them.

Today I bought Birds of Prey complete series. I never watched it so something new to watch....finally.

As a kid I was a big fan of the Adam West Batman TV series-funny and a little silly but enjoyable. The later Batman movies were all a little too dark for me- little to no humor but plenty of action.

One of the silly things about the show, is all of the labels. The Bat Toilet, The Bat Washer and Dryer, The Bat Kitty Litter Box, etc.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/lau_zpsf2785ec5.gif

To be fair, Adam West did a great job as Batman and Bruce Wayne, but, could not stand Robin.

Hehe, and don't forget the Bat Shark Repellant. You never know when you might need it. Kappowww! Zonkkkk!

I liked the series, but when Bat Girl came on the scene it kind of got spoiled.

As a kid it was cool, it just did not hold up as I became http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/old.gif. But, I love the Batmobile! It is my most favorite car, ever! Lost in Space succumb to the silliness and went downhill to me, too.

I also liked Lost in Space but your right it did seem to get more silly as the series went on. Maybe they thought they could hold on to the "kids" by making it silly.

The pilot was not as good without Smith and the Robot, then it went into the opposite direction after Batman. Hard to believe LIS will be 50 in September.

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A friend of mine found the TOS Interactive 1701 Deck Plans, pretty cool.

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Makes me feel old :) Thanks for the link. I always wanted to walk onto the bridge of TOS,TNG or just walk around DS9.

I'm glad to help. I'm always on the lookout for ST sites to share and enjoy.

Had a real lazy Sunday afternoon. Caught most of Star Treks IV, V and VI back to back on tv. And I noticed something in ST V, the scene where Kirk is wrestling the 'cat' alien in the bar. Has anyone else noticed the sound effects? It sounds like Kirk is being attacked by James Brown, Ooowwwww! Seriously, Paramount should've gotten sued for ripping that sample. :)

I never noticed....the sounds she made.;)

I will have to watch Star Trek V I hadn't noticed it. Done with Season 6 of Voyager on to season 7. Borg and more Borg even Borg Kids :)

The Borg are named after Ernest Borg-nine. I know a way to distract the Borg, transport Tribbles over to the cubes, they will be so busy assimilating, them...BOOM.

Borgnine starred with Shatner in a movie in the 70s called Devils Rain.

I always thought Borg sounds like a brand of synthesizer. :)

Some Borg look like they would be handy to have around. I mean a can-opener for a hand, now that's practical for the kitchen. ;)

Never saw Devil's Rain, except some photos in Famous Monsters of Filmland.

Moog...Borg....sure, I agree.

You are optimistic about the can opener Borg, just watch out for the other hand.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/jawdrop.gif

I just saw that the complete series set of Science Fiction Theater is coming out at the end of May. I have seen a few episodes, pretty good anthology series.

If it's anything other than a cattle prod, that Borg is going to be sent to bed without any supper.

Not seen (or heard of) Science Fiction Theater. Looks interesting based on what I just read on Wikipedia.

I watched Brent Spiner in a really weird episode of Tales from the Darkside the other day. Some crazy stuff out there.

Crazy stuff is good, I like crazy stuff...not blood oozing gross http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/2-1.gif stuff.

I watched the last episode of the 1960 episode of CBS's Men into Space, with guest star Marshall Thompson, about the first trip to Mars. In 1959 he starred in the movie First Man in Space, and in 1958 he starred in the movie, It! The Terror from Beyond Space, about leaving Mars after a crash landing. Do you see a typecasting pattern here?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/017.gif

Hehe. I love typecasting. Joe Pesci comes to mind. Is there a film where he's actually not swearing his head off or putting someone else's head in a vice?

Is that a trick question?

Ok, let's file that one away in the "rhetorical folder" and call it a day. :)

I'm fer that.

Well, nothing to say, then outside I go.

Farewell to Janice Rand - Grace Lee Whitney. RIP.

Damed, another of the crew gone before the 50th. We have lost Bones, Scotty, Spock, now our favorite Yeoman.

Damed, another of the crew gone before the 50th. We have lost Bones, Scotty, Spock, now our favorite Yeoman.
Our loss is their gain! Bones and Scotty will be glad to have such lovely company now...

soundtrekker, that's the finest example of positive spin I've ever heard.

I agree, well said, Squire.

A few youtube videos about Grace Lee Whitney, worth watching:

Tributes to Grace:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IEFl6ZB96A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB_TctX1y4M

A short documentary on her from 1993, from the "American Journal" series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdCmnSnS7gM

Then I found this bit from 2009, a most revealing and honest interview with her, where she tells what REALLY happened back in the 60ies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VY_a08KnSk


... and, on a lighter note, this great tribute to our most lovely trek Yeoman ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PghJK0nAKgw

I believe Grace would have loved that video, maybe she even saw it (it's from 2010)! :)

If there's an actual connection between the Wombles and Star Trek, I'm afraid I've missed it. :)




The Wombles crew keeping Britain tidy since a long, long time ago.

If there's an actual connection between the Wombles and Star Trek, I'm afraid I've missed it. :)




The Wombles crew keeping Britain tidy since a long, long time ago.

Well, the Wombles are cute. So was Grace/Rand.

No, skip that... she was gorgeous!! :)

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Our loss is their gain! Bones and Scotty will be glad to have such lovely company now...

On second thought, so will be Spock. He doesn't show it, but deep down, he will enjoy her company. Infinite Diversity... well, whom do I tell? You know his usual thought pattern and reasoning. ;)

I finally finished season 7 of Voyager. Wish there was more buildup to the last two episodes but they were good. Taking a break from Star Trek and going to spend time with the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings

I know, Voyager ended way too quickly. Shame.


@soundtrekker. Hmm, now that I think about it, Star Trek could have done with a cameo performance from Great Uncle Bulgaria.

I know, Voyager ended way too quickly. Shame.


@soundtrekker. Hmm, now that I think about it, Star Trek could have done with a cameo performance from Great Uncle Bulgaria.
Well, I'm not familiar with the Wombles... is that one of them?

Hehe, yes it is. It's the elder of the group.

I finally finished season 7 of Voyager. Wish there was more buildup to the last two episodes but they were good. Taking a break from Star Trek and going to spend time with the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings

I just realised you got through the complete series in record time. Experience any side-effects? :)

I'm back from my goodwill tour of the Solar System.....Yea! Right! I'm working on putting together a soundtrack of music heard in the 50's TV series SPACE PATROL! So far I have identified over 1 hour of music, and counting.

Max, so would you recommend the whole series of Voyager to me? Also, stay away from our precious. Gollom...Gollumm

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I just realised you got through the complete series in record time. Experience any side-effects? :)

That twitch is new....

theone2000, it's like going through a time warp or like suffering from jet lag. It was over to quick-took me about a month and 1/2 watching 3-4 episodes a night. Over all I liked Voyager more than I thought I would. Would have liked more Borg episodes and more build up at the end. Like Enterprise it ended too soon for me.

I've done back to back sessions well into the early hours of the morning. Not a great idea since I had to get up at around 730am to get to work. :) Although I can't honestly say I lost or missed anything from the experience having done so. It just seems to end sooner like you say.

@AZSneed, I've not seen Space Patrol but I have heard some of the radio shows complete with the commercials for those smooth Fatima cigarettes which are recommended by doctors. ;)

The radio shows of Space Patrol I have heard were sponsored by Nestles and Wheat and Rice Chex as they were geared towards kids.

If you like 50's Sci-Fi, then look on youtube for episodes. For being a live series, it is very good.

Will do. Rice Chex sounds familiar. The smooth rich flavour of Fatimas as recommended by doctors could have been advertised during another show. Anyway, what's wrong with kids smoking? Those doctors know what they're talking about, right? :)

Trust doctors, they are "EXPERTS", not me anymore. But, I do trust THE Doctor.

Rice Chex is still in the cereal isle. Also, in Chex Mix.

The only cereal I eat these days is Rice Krispies and only in the Rice Krispies bar form :)

I don't eat cereal, not in decades. Keep the cereal, give me the prize.

ANYONE HOME?

I guess not.

ANYONE HOME?

I guess not.

on the contrary, old friend! How'd'you do? And where's Scotty? Any news? He should come out of his Jefferies tube and start to socialize again...

Who keeps knocking on my door and disappearing? Who's that hiding behind that bush?

on the contrary, old friend! How'd'you do? And where's Scotty? Any news? He should come out of his Jefferies tube and start to socialize again...

I'm busy watching old CLASSIC Sci-Fi movies, and music. Oh, and dodging the big rain drops, it is raining Tribbles, and lightning from Apollo!

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Who keeps knocking on my door and disappearing? Who's that hiding behind that bush?

I'm sure it ain't me, I'm pretty sure.

As for Scotty, I haven't heard from him in awhile. I need to try to contact him again, as he hasn't contacted me. You know when he gets into his Tech Journals, he loses track of time.

Blame it all on JJ Abrams!

J. J. A B R A M S!!! YOU....
Hope Scott's doing better.

J. J. A B R A M S!!! YOU....
Hope Scott's doing better.
That's what I'm sure of. As a matter of fact, I'm imaging him right now drinking... well, I'm not sure what it is, but it is... green! :)

Awful quiet here, hope Scotty is alright, been busy with life or should I say death. Four members of my family died in the last month or so. I'm hanging in there-bright side is I went to a wedding this pass weekend instead of another funeral. Hope everyone else here is doing well.

Awful quiet here, hope Scotty is alright, been busy with life or should I say death. Four members of my family died in the last month or so. I'm hanging in there-bright side is I went to a wedding this pass weekend instead of another funeral. Hope everyone else here is doing well.

My deepest condolences to you for the loss of all the loved ones from your family, I can, partially at least, feel how that must be for you: my aunt died earlier this year, she was in her mid-seventies, and her husband followed her just 3 months later. But that's the way life goes: birth, marriage, death, and then, again new life, it's the cycle of life we all are part of. It's important that we all make the best of it, each new day.

Thanks soundtracker, been busy trying to deal with settling the estate and the IRS-what a pain.

That's what I'm sure of. As a matter of fact, I'm imaging him right now drinking... well, I'm not sure what it is, but it is... green! :)

That gag was so good, and like a lot of stuff on Trek, was reused in TNG.




Awful quiet here, hope Scotty is alright, been busy with life or should I say death. Four members of my family died in the last month or so. I'm hanging in there-bright side is I went to a wedding this pass weekend instead of another funeral. Hope everyone else here is doing well.


Thanks soundtracker, been busy trying to deal with settling the estate and the IRS-what a pain.


That's sounds awful. Condolences.

theone2000, Thanks, things are starting to get back to normal, still dealing with the estate and IRS for my wife's family but we are enjoying the nice weather.

Spotted some cool looking ships (imo). A shame they weren't used in any episodes (afaik). In fact, there are quite a few out there which have me wondering if they were in the shows or not.

Nice looking ships, maybe one will show up in a future Star Trek movie or series-one can hope

Indeed. If you ask me, the bosses at ST HQ really need to get their bearings sorted out. They took the enterprise down a couple of blind alleys with JJ and ST Enterprise. I too am hoping they develop the ST universe further. Tv would definitely get a boost with a good sci-fi show. Almost everything on tv nowadays I find a real bore.


On a lighter note, we're getting an amusing commercial on tv here featuring a classic theme as the soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re-Bqup7mGo

That's what I'm sure of. As a matter of fact, I'm imaging him right now drinking... well, I'm not sure what it is, but it is... green! :)

Tonight's episode of TOS on tv was "By Any Other Name" where Scotty says "It's green." Tonight's episode of TNG was "I, Borg" which means Relics is a few episodes away, where Data says to Scotty "It is green."

I am in the middle of watching TOS season 2, noticed a big improvement in back ground and special effects over season 1.

If it's the remaster, that's what I'm watching on tv. I have to confess I've not been paying too much attention to the effects. I know they're there, and that they're mostly an improvement on 60s tech. Although now that I think about it, I do believe the start of s2, Vulcan did look cool in Amok Time.

Yes, it is remaster version. But when I watch it as a kid it was on an old B/W TV so everything is better than I remembered it. :)

Quite literally night & day in your case. :)

I caught a Trek documentary recently where they discussed Phase II. The tests they showed were really, really awful. Really. It could've been called Hippy Trek, or Disco Trek. Sheesh. Thanks go to Mr. Leonard Nimoy for opting out of the new series and consequently forcing the studio to produce a film. I'm hoping a quantum leap on such a scale is about to happen again in the Trek universe.

That would be great, I could go for a new Star Trek series.

Tonight's episode of TNG was Time's Arrow Part 1. Part 2 tomorrow. These two episodes have grown on me.

I'm still working on TOS, half way through 3rd season. Too bad they didn't complete 5 seasons, with the new effects it is so much nicer than what I watched as a kid but I didn't have a color TV back then with HD. :)

Tonight's episode of TOS was Spock's Brain. I think that's the first episode of season 3. "A child could do it." always cracks me up.

Yeah, they had to 'overhaul' it as HD would have magnified all the flaws in the FX. After all, they still want to cash in on the global syndication. :)

Seasons 4 and 5. What a frigging shame. That show was drowned in a bucket of water before it matured. Bastards.

I agree, very sad, but I also heard that Gene was hard for them to work with which added to their thinking when it came to decide if they would renew or cancel the series

I've heard that too. But I always thought the difficulty worked both ways - maybe he was being difficult in resisting interference in the show. In the end they should've cut him some slack. And I'll wager they were sorry decades later when global syndication continued and continued. It's an old discussion and I suppose the fans will never know exactly what went on. The show needs a new Gene with the same positive outlook to go forward.

Finished watching Star Trek TOS series, wish they would have finished with a nice ending episode.

Finished watching Star Trek TOS series, wish they would have finished with a nice ending episode.

Yes, that's true, but season three had its highlights. Coincidently, right now I'm watching "The Empath", which is a nice character study about Kirk, Spock and McCoy and shows the beautiful chemistry and friendship between the "big three". Also, it has a great female guest star with Kathrin Hays, who played "Gem", communicating all kinds of emotion without speaking a word (playing a mute alien).) Rounding up this episode was a terrific and most emotional score by George Duning.

Finished watching Star Trek TOS series, wish they would have finished with a nice ending episode.

Too right.



Yes, that's true, but season three had its highlights. Coincidently, right now I'm watching "The Empath", which is a nice character study about Kirk, Spock and McCoy and shows the beautiful chemistry and friendship between the "big three". Also, it has a great female guest star with Kathrin Hays, who played "Gem", communicating all kinds of emotion without speaking a word (playing a mute alien).) Rounding up this episode was a terrific and most emotional score by George Duning.

In the UK The Empath wasn't broadcast until the mid-90s. Same as Plato's Stepchildren and the pilot with Jeff Hunter. Maybe another episode too, I'm not sure. And I have to ask "Why weren't these episodes shown along with the others?"

That really makes you wonder if there were PC police back then

It was broadcast on the BBC. They have their own criteria/agenda. But I shouldn't grumble too much as it was shown commercial free. That was the one good thing about the Beeb. 6 o'clock Wednesday evenings, get in, sit down, switch on the tv and watch TOS commercial free. BBC2 used to be cool. Kind of missing it the way it used to be. No commercials, but it sucks. Have you noticed I have a love/hate relationship with Auntie? (Auntie being a silly nickname for the BBC).

In the UK The Empath wasn't broadcast until the mid-90s. Same as Plato's Stepchildren and the pilot with Jeff Hunter. Maybe another episode too, I'm not sure. And I have to ask "Why weren't these episodes shown along with the others?"
Yes, I vividly do remember the BBC ban of four episodes in your country, back in the early eighties. See, I'm from Germany, and during the first run of trek in Germany (1972-74), we only got exactly 39 episodes, the remaining 39 episodes were shown much later on a private channel in the late 80ies (on SAT1). So, as a huge trek fan from the beginning, in the early 80ies I was desperately looking for the missing episodes (which at least I was familiar with through the James Blish novelizations, which I imported from the U.K. back then). Well, when the first trek videos on VHS were released in the U.K., some of the first were those four banned episodes (which, of course, were in great demand in the U.K., obviously), so I thought, why not start with them (the banned episodes were also part of the yet unknown 39 episodes in Germany). The four episodes were "The Empath", "Plato's Stepchildren", Whom Gods Destroy", and "Miri", which, I believe, all got a PG15 rating on VHS. (PG = Parental Guiding, for those unfamiliar with the British rating system.) Later, when the complete run of trek TOS was released on VHS in the U.K., I completed my collection, of course (always preferred the U.S. original version).

The reason for the ban? Dunno, but probably the torture scenes in "Empath", the brutal and senseless murder of Marta in "Whom Gods Destroy", the disturbing scenery on Miri's planet, where kids were left on their own and where some of them had to go through a horrific metamorphosis, and the humiliating torture scenes in Plato's Stepchildren". The German tv channel ZDF probably had the same reservations in 1972, when they saw these episodes, so they sorted them out when they had to decide which 39 episodes they were to show in their first run.

A real ban, by the way, happened in Germany later on, when SAT1 was preparing to give the remaing episodes their first run: they banned "Patterns of Force", which apparently made them uncomfortable with its ridiculous and over-the-top portrayal of a planet run by a nazi leadership. A few years later, "Patterns" was released exclusively on VHS, before SAT1, finally, decided to cancel the ban and included it in its broadcast schedule.

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It was broadcast on the BBC. They have their own criteria/agenda. But I shouldn't grumble too much as it was shown commercial free. That was the one good thing about the Beeb. 6 o'clock Wednesday evenings, get in, sit down, switch on the tv and watch TOS commercial free. BBC2 used to be cool. Kind of missing it the way it used to be. No commercials, but it sucks. Have you noticed I have a love/hate relationship with Auntie? (Auntie being a silly nickname for the BBC).
Commercial free it was in Germany too, but only in 1972/74 on ZDF, but the downside were horrible cuts, to meet the 45 min. time slot (Saturday 6.15 a.m., right before the 7.00 a.m. news), meaning cuts of roughly 5 min.! The BBC also had their cuts. I know that because in the late 80ies, I was able to record the BBC edits on the British channel BFBS, which was located in my town when the British army still was stationed in Western Germany, but I was happy enough to get the shows at all. I managed to record all 75 episodes that way (minus the four banned episodes, of course!). I was in trek haven in those years! When I got my collection of the uncut U.S. VHS version, the missing scenes were true revelations to me, even if in most cases I knew those missing scenes through comparing the English version with the (also cut) German version, which in many cases had different cuts, plus adding the informations from the Blish novelizations. True detective work I did back then, and I had a blast doing it! I'm missing those days...

I certainly had no inkling as to what happened in your country. How odd to get just half a series! It kind of reminds me of A Clockwork Orange being banned here, but available in France.

Patterns of Force had the classic line from Spock to Kirk "You make a very convincing Nazi." Kirk's expression in response is priceless.

I'm not so sure the episodes were cut as such. You may well be correct in that some scenes were cut, however I don't recall any. The shows actually run for approximately 50 mins in America using the NTSC broadcast system running at 30/60 frames per second. The method of encoding means that the 24 frames per second original film has duplicate fields/frames inserted into it to make it 30/60fps, but the duration remains the same. In Europe using the PAL broadcast system running at 25/50fps, the same 24fps film is simply broadcast at 25/50fps leading to a decrease in overall duration of 4%, meaning a 50 minute show ran for 48 minutes. It's a simple formula actually, PAL will lose 4mins per every 100mins of regular 24fps film. That's why actors sound different when you watch on the counterpart system - the pitch is altered with PAL broadcasts.

Also, I'm watching TOS and TNG on tv currently, and I've noticed that the fades and pauses in episodes have been cut and brutal cross-fades put in their place. I've also noticed cuts from TOS, probably to squeeze in the 15 minutes of commercials during the hour.

I guess I was lucky growing up in the USA and was able to see all the TOS episodes when they 1st came out. When I lived in German back in the mid to late 70s I thought the Germans had more free TV with all the nudity I saw compared to the USA. I would even watch the soap opera shows to try and learn German and see plenty of nudity that would have never been allowed in the USA.

Ohhhh myyyyy!

Ohhhh myyyyy!

After being absent for, what, 2 or 3 weeks, you come back, read all this geeky trek stuff on this page, and all you are able to say is "Ohhhh myyyyy!"?

Well, if I had read this, I would have been speechless first. And then, as soon as I had composed myself, I would have said:"Hey, guys, this is just a tv show! Get a life!"

Hey! this IS just a TV Show, and I WOULD say "get a life" but I'm guilty too. :p Hope you all are doing OK.

After being absent for, what, 2 or 3 weeks, you come back, read all this geeky trek stuff on this page, and all you are able to say is "Ohhhh myyyyy!"?

Well, if I had read this, I would have been speechless first. And then, as soon as I had composed myself, I would have said:"Hey, guys, this is just a tv show! Get a life!"


I'm guessing he was referring to the apparent abundance of nudity on television in Germany in the 70's. :)

I'm guessing he was referring to the apparent abundance of nudity on television in Germany in the 70's. :)

Yes, I do remember those programs in the 70ies, I was 10 in 1971, and when I got my first own tv set in 1976, I was able to watch whatever I wanted: Star Trek, Space:1999, and... well, yes, German Nudity, wherever I could find it. Hey, I had to educate myself, okay?

As long as you didn't educate yourself too hard. :)

You know those shows were great. But there was lots of decent programming back then. Even The Prisoner, Dr. Who, UFO, Joe 90, Stingray, Captain Scarlett and the Mysterons, lest we forget the Mysterons.

The one thing that could've come sooner was the home VCR. The 80's was the decade I was stacking tapes like I was running a library.

That's Dad's Porn tape Mom, I was just looking for something to watch, like Star Trek, and my pants are unzipped cause I burned myself, uh, making hot chocolate and popcorn. Yeah, that's what it was, yeah, I didn't have something to stir the Hot Chocolate, yeah.

Don't forget all the great shows on BBC, they really went out of their way back then. Today there seems to be too many reality TV on so I don't watch much beside the news. The Sifi channel is interesting.

Ditto on all that.

But ain't the news a bag of laughs? Like Bill Hicks once said "I watch CNN 24 hours a day. I gotta cut that down. Like where is all this shit happening, man?" "Ted Turner doesn't get laid, so he puts out that everyone will die of AIDS. 'I don't get laid, nobody gets laid.'" "I'm writing Jane Fonda, 'Will you fuck this guy so we can get some good news?'"

if you watch MSMBC and then Fox News it's like two different worlds they are reporting on.

The news services here are a homogenised gloop. I was switching between BBC and SKY and they have exactly the same stories.

Talking about the news, did anyone else see the explosion and aftermath in China? Woah. Looks a Terminator movie set. (And sympathies to the people affected).

A quote from tonight's episode of TNG, Gambit, Part 1.

RIKER: "Great story... I'll have to remember that the next time I'm in a knife fight!"

-Opens door- What? Damn, I missed them again! Hope you guys are doing well. Wish there was some news on Scotty. The News? Yeah that's a contradiction!

Cheers Spectre, hope you're doin' well too.


Worth checking out if anybody's looking for screen caps from the Trek movies: Star Trek Screencaps.com - High quality screencaps of all Star Trek movies and TV Shows! (http://startrek-screencaps.com/)

Cheers Spectre, hope you're doin' well too.


Worth checking out if anybody's looking for screen caps from the Trek movies: Star Trek Screencaps.com - High quality screencaps of all Star Trek movies and TV Shows! (http://startrek-screencaps.com/)
Thanks, that's a great site. Right now, only the movie caps are available, though. The tv show caps are either down, or will be added later...

There's always TrekCore. They've been updating TOS and TNG with HD screen caps, although TNG has not been completed yet. Part of season 6 and onwards is unfinished. The SD screen caps are there, but not as good.

Home - TrekCore Star Trek The Original Series HD Screencaps (http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/)
Home - TrekCore Star Trek The Next Generation HD Screencaps (http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/)

Love at last! Where have you been all my life?

Hehe, I've got a love affair with my espresso machine too. :)

Hehe, I've got a love affair with my espresso machine too. :)

Then I hope it doesn't erase your memory next time you try to cheat on it with your fridge.

LOL! Same with our coffee machine here. I would be worse off without it than...oops, I better keep my mouth shut.

LOL! Same with our coffee machine here. I would be worse off without it than...oops, I better keep my mouth shut.

No, don't. It just started to get interesting...

My Wife wouldn't like it! You know, the fairer sex. Bonk bonk, She'll go bonk bonk right on my head!

It's the 'Bonk!, Bonk! On the head!' kid (aka little shit)

I was wondering if the kid on the left was wearing a Clint Howard Mask? Either way Scary!

Hehe, Angry Balok.

How about that, tonight's episode of TOS was The Corbomite Maneuver. "I know, I know. A thousand questions. But first, the tranya."

Got in from work this evening, caught the last half hour of The New Adventures of Wonder Woman ("Yeah, baby! Yeah"). Rene Auberjonois was some kind of burglar at the Space Questicon where fans of sci-fi movies like Star Wars and Logan's Run were dressing up as characters from those shows. But the one disturbing thing I saw, is a guy getting into the Robbie the Robot suit. Yes, some guy was getting kitted out in Robbie the Robot. It's not a robot at all. Bummer.



Hey, it's Rene in his disco shirt. But where's the medallion, Rene?...


Shocking...

@AZSneed. If you're out there, you'll love this...


Trying To Think Why It Necessary To Constantly Post Huge Images And Constantly Quote Them. Stupid. I Have Spent the Last 5mins Trying To Access Certain Threads.... Pointless Waste Of My Time. Ah.

I thought I would stop by to see what is going on, and I see the quote, and all I just had to say http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/lau_zpsf2785ec5.gif.....and he is wanting sympathy!

P.S. I have not heard from Scott, because he don't answer my emails, so, no news.

Hmmm, I'm hoping he's ok. I'll bet though he won't like this site now that the Like button has gone!

Who needs a like button, we are one big happy family, and we never, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/catfight_zpsdd31450b.gif or http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/thunhappy.gif!!!

Never!

With S.P.E.C.T.R.E. about there'll always be conflict.

I'm the good S.P.E.C.T.R.E.

With S.P.E.C.T.R.E. about there'll always be conflict.

Only if your name is Bond, James Bond.

oh, I'm screwed! cause it's Blofeld. is that bad?

Only if you mess with his pussy.

Then I will keep my hands off his pussy. I still feel like blowing something up and asking for 1 MILLION DOLLARS or I'll blow something else up. I have a whole pack of firecrackers straight from Mexico!

OK, I don't know you....unless I get a cut of the Million.

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Anyone watched Lost in Space episodes on Sept.15, the 50 Anniversary of the series? I did, and the first season is still the best, except being in B&W.

OK, I don't know you....unless I get a cut of the Million.

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Anyone watched Lost in Space episodes on Sept.15, the 50 Anniversary of the series? I did, and the first season is still the best, except being in B&W.

"Liked"

OH! NO! HERE COMES THE FORUM POLICE TO GET SPECTRE FOR LIKING!

OH! NO! HERE COMES THE FORUM POLICE TO GET SPECTRE FOR LIKING!

That's my cue:

YOUR AGONIZER, MR. SPECTRE, PLEEEEEASE!!!

No, not that, Mr. Soundtrekker, it wasn't my fault, no! ahhhhhh!

Oh, yes, it was, I saw and heard him....as I sneak out of the room.

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Tomorrow starts the Halloween month long of carnage and other unpleasant things. So, expect for me to be evil, despicable, and just plain hard to get along with.....in other words, normal. I have been watching instructable videos about,Wolf men, Mummies, Vampires and other slimy things.

You should join S.P.E.C.T.R.E., we specialize in extorting candy from little kids!

You should join S.P.E.C.T.R.E., we specialize in extorting candy from little kids!

You shouldn't have said that, Spectre. AZSneed, the booth this time?

Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! IT HURTS!!! ...MUUUST! SHUUUUT! UUUUP!

You shouldn't have said that, Spectre. AZSneed, the booth this time?

PAIN! Bring it on....MORE! MORE! aHHhhhh......feels so go.....

That's my cue:

YOUR AGONIZER, MR. SPECTRE, PLEEEEEASE!!!


Where do you get yours from? I had a look on e-bay and can't find any for sale.

Where do you get yours from? I had a look on e-bay and can't find any for sale.

Wrong Universe. Have a look on mirror-ebay.com.

Wrong Universe. Have a look on mirror-ebay.com.

Ah of course! The bearded-man universe. Loggin' on right now. Parking attendants, you'll get yours, muhahahaha!

I just bought from Star Fleet Surplus, the Doomsday Machine, the fools didn't want to fool with it and when I get it fixed....I WILL RULE THE UNIVERESES!

Is that available on e-bay? And could you make an "unboxing" Youtube video. Thanks.

Is that available on e-bay? And could you make an "unboxing" Youtube video. Thanks.

AZSneed won't be able to do that, with his connection, it would take like... forever! Besides, if he has unboxed the Doomsday Machine, you will know it: the first thing he is gonna hit will be the "Start" button. Life, as we know it, will cease to exist, and that will include youtube. So, no unboxing video, sorry!

What the Squire said.

Squire, how did you know? You must have used that seldom used power called Common Sense. If you had read my mind, you would now be in the corner http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/drooling.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/2-1.gif and then http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/lau_zpsf2785ec5.gif!

What the Squire said.

Squire, how did you know? You must have used that seldom used power called Common Sense. If you had read my mind, you would now be in the corner http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/drooling.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/2-1.gif and then http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/lau_zpsf2785ec5.gif!

So when you rule the universes, can I become your main henchman? [Gleeful expression on my face]

AZSneed won't be able to do that, with his connection, it would take like... forever! Besides, if he has unboxed the Doomsday Machine, you will know it: the first thing he is gonna hit will be the "Start" button. Life, as we know it, will cease to exist, and that will include youtube. So, no unboxing video, sorry!


So when you rule the universes, can I become your main henchman? [Gleeful expression on my face]

Hmm, a ruler of the Universe with a dial-up connection. I suppose in that case, Squire, you can make the unboxing video and shunt it onto Youtube with your DSL connection. Bottom line, I want to see the unboxing.

So when you rule the universes, can I become your main henchman? [Gleeful expression on my face]

You will be my Number One, sorry theone2000, he asked first.

First thing I will do as Ruler, is make ALL Internet users go back to dial-up....just for fun.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif

If I set an old phone next to my DSL, will that count?

Only if it is from the 30's, and it is worth more money than I can imagine.

You can reach your bookie with it, just dial 511. Oh , and tell him I want $500 on Gus Mally in the 10th race.

You will be my Number One, sorry theone2000, he asked first.

First thing I will do as Ruler, is make ALL Internet users go back to dial-up....just for fun.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/lloyd2/evillaugh.gif


That's great! I can always murder my way up the ladder in the evil universe. Erm, evil universe, that's right, yeah.



Only if it is from the 30's, and it is worth more money than I can imagine.


Any chance of an unboxing video of said ye olde tech? Thanks in advance! But don't do a fail like this guy with a new nexus smartphone, "Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!" https://www.youtube.com/embed/bzjVU55619c

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TNG ended last week. Just watched the first episode of DS9 on tv tonight.

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Has anyone else noticed this thread is getting an apparently inordinately high number of views?

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How were things on Ceti Alpha V Scotty? Or were you stuck in the Transporter Buffer again?

Has anyone checked the buffer lately?

Hmmmmm, that's a good idea.

I bet Scott is too messed up on the drugs given to him to fix him to do anything.

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Anyone watching MONSTER movies and series for the Halloween month? I am and went to the store when you scream, "OH! THE HORROR!" AKA Wally World.

Could this be the same Wally World Clark Griswold took his family to?

Don't know the guy.

If you want to see some awesome Halloween stuff, go to Target. How about an spider skeleton!

This guy!

Oh, that guy. I didn't know his name, never watched the movies. Wasn't he Mr. Spock on SNL?

https://s3-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2Ftu mblr_lfkb5upoAq1qbrqczo1_1280.png&sp=287d3c98b5f5ddcc36c550849af1787b

Yes! The ST skit where they're boarded by Eliot Gould is classic. The show gets shut down due to the low Nielsen ratings.

Yes, the one with the late John Belushi as Captain Kirk, Dan Akroyd as Bones, and Chevy Chase as Spock:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx0xOgFDXFg

That was brilliant!

Somewhere I have the VHS of the best of John Belushi with that episode. Remember when they pluck the ears off of Chase Spock?

Yes, that was hilarious. I almost felt sorry for Spock, and shortly after that, he was broken by TPTB. But Kirk stood his ground until the final curtain! Always the Captain, until his final log entry. He always knew he would die alone...

Tonight's TOS episode was Mirror, Mirror. Apparently "Spock's Beard" was named after the Spock (or his beard) in the Alternative universe.

I watched a couple of films over the weekend where TOS was cameo'd. Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey and Tropic Thunder both showed clips from the episode where Kirk is pitched against the Gorn. There are plenty of parodies out there like the NBC one on SNL, and Futurama, but I'm sure I've seen other movies that feature genuine clips from TOS however I haven't catalogued them before. Does anybody else know of any movies that have featured TOS cameos. (Cameo for lack of a better word).

I can't think of any use of the historical records in that contexts.

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I watched THE Halloween episode of TOS, you know the one, and it was the re-mastered version. I like the new castle effect.

The remastered special editions of TOS have had a better treatment compared to TNG, IMO. TNG didn't receive that much attention where I believe it should have. Currently watching DS9. In fact tonight's episode is about to kick off in 35 minutes. There's no remastering there, which is a shame. It'd be nice to at least get a clear picture on the screen.

The remastered special editions of TOS have had a better treatment compared to TNG, IMO. TNG didn't receive that much attention where I believe it should have. Currently watching DS9. In fact tonight's episode is about to kick off in 35 minutes. There's no remastering there, which is a shame. It'd be nice to at least get a clear picture on the screen.

The difference was, in the case of TOS, they re-did the special effects from scratch (while simultaniously honoring the visual esthetics and style of the special effects people from the TOS series, only this time, making them in digital high-res instead of analogue photographic effects, and even adding several effects or parts of them, for example by making new background matte "paintings" bigger than before, adding digital moving people or, for example, moving trains into the background, or sometimes even creating completely new visual effects as in the case of "Amok Time" with the panoramic view of the entrance scene to the combat arena, or adding new ships where none were seen before), whereas in the case of TNG, they mostly took the pre-existing raw material of the visual effects and enhanced them digitally to make them HD ready, like they did with the cleaned and remastered life action scenes. Originally, when broadcast in the 80ies, the original video effects were transferred just to simple video, and that's the reason why those, along with the life action material, always looked so awfully washed-out all those years.

For TOS, the new digital effects produced many spectacular views, without looking too modern, thus making them look as "sixties" as possible, and mostly, I like them a lot. They also kept the tranquil movements of the ships as known from the original, which was a wise choice. A Star Wars approch would have destroyed the classic trek style, in my opinion.

I agree.

Amok Time was good. First time I saw the scene I was genuinely pleased. Although personally I found the Enterprise to be a bit of a weak link in the whole business. It could've done with just that bit more attention.

The Star Wars approach would've been something to behold! Funny looking creatures moving across the screen which were never there before. Added spacecraft traffic outside the windows. Some funky aliens doing a song and dance. Erm, forget that. Bad idea. :)

Amok Time was good. First time I saw the scene I was genuinely pleased. Although personally I found the Enterprise to be a bit of a weak link in the whole business. It could've done with just that bit more attention.

The Star Wars approach would've been something to behold! Funny looking creatures moving across the screen which were never there before. Added spacecraft traffic outside the windows. Some funky aliens doing a song and dance. Erm, forget that. Bad idea. :)

Have to agree with the Enterprise digitalization being lacking something, it's somehow too clean and missing some "personality", for lack of a better word. If I recall correctly, the digital effects team had a very tight schedule and had to experiment a little bit at the beginning (they didn't go by the original production numbers, always switching between all 3 seasons, back and forth), that's the reason the quality of the digital effects is always changing, if you watch the show by production number (Cage, Where No Man, Corbomite Maneuver, and so on...).

With the Star Wars approach, I was merely thinking about the movements of the ships, which wouldn't have worked for classic trek. The majestic musical cues alone would have excluded Star Wars esthetics for those flyby scenes, they wouldn't have been compatible for that.

I'll just insert this off-topic morsel. It certainly made me laugh out loud. http://www.infowars.com/julianne-moore-claims-founding-fathers-would-support-gun-control/

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Have to agree with the Enterprise digitalization being lacking something, it's somehow too clean and missing some "personality", for lack of a better word. If I recall correctly, the digital effects team had a very tight schedule and had to experiment a little bit at the beginning (they didn't go by the original production numbers, always switching between all 3 seasons, back and forth), that's the reason the quality of the digital effects is always changing, if you watch the show by production number (Cage, Where No Man, Corbomite Maneuver, and so on...).

With the Star Wars approach, I was merely thinking about the movements of the ships, which wouldn't have worked for classic trek. The majestic musical cues alone would have excluded Star Wars esthetics for those flyby scenes, they wouldn't have been compatible for that.

Ok, I got ya. I know what you mean.

The Star Wars approach would've been something to behold! Funny looking creatures moving across the screen which were never there before. Added spacecraft traffic outside the windows. Some funky aliens doing a song and dance. Erm, forget that. Bad idea. :)

Well, that was done in remastered trek: in "Menagerie, Part One", there are people in the background and in the windows in the first exterior Starbase shot where Kirk and his men are meeting with Miss Piper, which weren't there before (digitally added people!), and in "Trouble with Tribbles", you can see the Enterprise and the Klingon ship from Captain Koloth in the windows from Mr. Lurry's office!

A Haynes Manual for the Enterprise. Time to get my hands greasy...




https://haynes.co.uk/microsites/enterprise/



Free wallpaper at the Haynes site...






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Well, that was done in remastered trek: in "Menagerie, Part One", there are people in the background and in the windows in the first exterior Starbase shot where Kirk and his men are meeting with Miss Piper, which weren't there before (digitally added people!), and in "Trouble with Tribbles", you can see the Enterprise and the Klingon ship from Captain Koloth in the windows from Mr. Lurry's office!

You're right of course, sans the singing and dancing alien freak show. :)

That Haynes manual is nice, there's a pdf version still floating around as a torrent. I have that one somewhere on one of my external drives.

I saw in the bookstore recently a strange book. It was a Haynes model book on the TOS Enterprise. It has all the parts in card form you need to build an Enterprise. It's more like a kit than a book.

Found some info on the net at last regarding the above.





http://trekclivos79.blogspot.de/2015/03/looks-alright-on-paper-haynes-press-out.html

Didn't we see this in TNG / Relics? This is a WTF!? moment...

Have researchers discovered an alien MEGASTRUCTURE? 'Bizarre' star could be surrounded by a Dyson sphere built by extraterrestrials, researchers claim


KIC 8462852 is located 1480 light-years away from Earth
Has produced a series of bizarre light fluctuations team cannot explain
One theory is that a vast megastructure is obscuring the light from it



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3271546/Have-researchers-alien-MEGASTRUCTURE-Researchers-reveal-bizarre-star-say-huge-unknown-object-blocking-light.html

Found some info on the net at last regarding the above.





http://trekclivos79.blogspot.de/2015/03/looks-alright-on-paper-haynes-press-out.html

Well, that looks... interesting. But can it fly? I dare to say not. Come to think of it, it really looks ugly! The Enterprise Owners Workshop Manual from Haynes, though, is well-done!

Are you mocking an 'official licensed product'? :) I agree, it looks a bit off, but it's a cardboard kit. That's what cardboard does. I remember making cardboard spacecraft and it was fun. As was making plastic kit stuff too. You're right though, the workshop manual looks great.

Yes, I WAS making fun a little bit, I had a cardboard kit myself when I was younger (some licensed product, too, must have been the TMP Enterprise in the early 80ies), and I never would look down on wide-eyed kids having a blast with it! :)

Cereal box conversion...








I love this: "The Enterprise D and Captain Picard" in Mega Bloks


https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bKBRfLzS1AU/VN6dHoBxLrI/AAAAAAAAhLM/S1qiz7ObkXM/s1600/Mega%2BBloks%2BStar%2BTrek%2BThe%2BNext%2BGenerati on%2BProBuilder%2BShowcase%2BSeries%2BUSS%2BEnterp rise%2BNCC-1701-D.jpg

Cool! Where's the Alien Chicks?

I'm pretty sure Gene Roddenberry didn't set out to make a sci-fi series about a horny captain crusing for alien chicks. Oh he did? My mistake. :)

Bring out the green slave girls. Chop chop!

Cool! Where's the Alien Chicks?

Oooh, inter-species erotica. I have vids.

There was an amusing scene in Crusade when Max Eilerson's gave the wrong data crystal to Matthew Gideon. "Wrong" as in having alien porn on it.

I have had Hayes book for years, I like it.

I have had Hayes book for years, I like it.

Having and liking them is easy, but did you read and understand them, like Scotty understood his technical magazines?

Nope. Technical books put me to sleep, I looked at the pretty pictures. I don't remember for sure, I think the build your own 1701 book I will get for Christmas.

When I get the book I'll upscale the pieces to full scale and travel the stars. I don't know why nobody thought of doing this before.

When I get the book I'll upscale the pieces to full scale and travel the stars. I don't know why nobody thought of doing this before.
That's because it needs a special characteristic trait called "the power of imagination", a long-lost virtue these days. I applaude you for this! Permission to come aboard?

I have that special characteristic trait, and I do use it.

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When I get the book I'll upscale the pieces to full scale and travel the stars. I don't know why nobody thought of doing this before.

You are THE ONE to do it, so make us proud!

That's because it needs a special characteristic trait called "the power of imagination", a long-lost virtue these days. I applaude you for this! Permission to come aboard?


Persmission granted!



I have that special characteristic trait, and I do use it.

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You are THE ONE to do it, so make us proud!


Thanks for the encouragement. I'll either succeed or end up on the 6 o'clock news looking like a space cadet. It's a win-win situation!

Thanks for the encouragement. I'll either succeed or end up on the 6 o'clock news looking like a space cadet. It's a win-win situation!

That's the spirit!

Which spirit? It is almost Halloween, the air is full of them.

(At time of writing) it's only hours away...

www.october212015.com

I remember watching BTTF2 and seeing great numbers of Discs in various sizes in rubbish bins. That part of the vision of the future never really came about. Today there's a great deal of material to download, but there is no mad rush to trash DVDs and CDs. In fact they form collections. There's even been a vinyl revival. Who'd have thunk?



Models!

I watched some of BTTF, and just could not get into it, except for seeing ZZ Top.

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I got Jurassic World on DVD today, and I am still excited about the movie, and I am a fan of, now all 4 movies. Besides, I have always been a fan of Dinosaurs.

Those old rockers. Frank Beard, the guy who doesn't have a beard. :)

BTTF2, when the future is skewed (thanks to Biff) kicked off with Sammy Hagar's "I can't drive 55". That was a good use of that song - it fit well with the scene.

I guess I'm not dressed properly. oh well.

Then what kind of dress is proper?

He should've been a sharp dressed man, 'cause every girl crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man.

eh heh, funny theone. Dressed in the attire from the Movie "Back To The Future" Part II. Oct, 21st 2015. I guess we're all just behind in the Times!