Penguin
10-24-2010, 12:27 AM
only thing worse than a woman is a black woman
only thing worse than a woman is a black woman
:objection:
HDHipHop1
10-24-2010, 06:19 AM
Thank you Olde
Penguin
10-24-2010, 07:52 AM
:objection:
You are correct I had forgotten that a black man is also worse than a woman.
Thank you for highlighting this oversight.
Tom Toonami Tunes
10-25-2010, 07:37 AM
adding to what mandi said about race/etc just being an aspect of a character and not what defines them: marvel has a HUGE selection of characters that have been around for years, and lots of them are loved, and certainly aren't defined by the thing that doesn't make them WASPs.
Why the hell would everyone be Janet Van Dyne? Is it because of that Skrull thing and everyone who's a Skrull turned into Wasp at the same time?
I'll need to use Star Trek for this next one.....
When you look at the original series it's multi culture cast is extremely tokenist. You've got the cowboy hero, the southern doctor, & the serious alien but the 3 of them are white American men while the rest are somewhat caricatures of foreign cultures who didn't get to do all that much or receive all that much development. Uhura was in her mid 50s and she still didn't speak a word of Klingon for christ sakes and these are the people they were at war with the most.
But for the time it was revolutionary. There was a Japanese guy who wasn�t a villain or a comedic character but a professional who helped drive the ship, the cold war was still a deep threat so having a Russian on as part of the crew humanized the enemies of the country, and to have a black women working in a professional environment where she wasn�t a maid or mammy character was huge back then.
Next Generation basically took TOS and modernized while expanding upon it.
Deep Space Nine took the series mythos to a whole nother level. Things weren�t so black and white as everything being greyer and with this setting the characters also became much more complex.
So far so good. The story lines themselves have matured, the female characters got progressively stronger, the black characters are fleshed out enough that even if they did have stereotypical aspects like playing sports or the proud warrior race guy being played by a black guy it didn�t really matter.
Here�s the thin though�.
While one of the main themes about Star Trek is that diversity and acceptance should and is a part of the future it�s still pretty damn imperialistic. The story arcs of the half breeds are about accepting all aspects of yourself but untimely it�s about those characters becoming more �human� or rather more acceptably normal than it is about finding balance. Spock should be a little more human. Worf should just chill with the whole Klingon thing and accept he was brought up in a human culture and that he�ll always be between 2 worlds, 7 of 9 should start acting more human if she wants to ever be happy with herself (God why did they ship(starship that is, wakka, wakka!) her with Chakotay with 3 episodes left? She should have been paired with the Dr.), B'Elanna Torres is the basic hot blooded Latina who�s tamed by the all American white boy.
Remember that episode about a unisexual race where gender is outlawed and it was a metaphor for homos? Well is was a great episode but because all the actors who played members of that race were girls it came off as Commander Riker conquers the Space Dykes. (Which I find hilarious but that�s beside the point.)
Then there�s the fact that the writers and producers keep nixing any attempt for a regular vanilla gay character.
Most of the characters treat other�s culture and customs as quant little eccentricities, not all the characters and not all the time but it happens a lot.
Now with the progress of the 1st 3 shows that�s not too big of a problem, you can only do so much at once and hope you�ve done all you can. But sadly things started to go down hill from there�
Voyager.
The 1st female Capt. often did thing in the worse way possible. Obeying the prime directive when bending it or breaking it would have been helpful to her crew and the alien of the week. Then on the next episode so totally goes rogue and breaks every rule and by doing so pisses off some faction and ends up with even more enemies.
Magic Indian, wimpy Asian boy (Neilix had to fuck a Klingon woman for him because he was too scared, Neilix! And let�s not forget he was killed and replaced with a duplicate I think twice.), and B'Elanna Torres explained above.
Enterprise
The black guy was just the black guy, didn�t do anything and can�t remember his name. (Though I hear this was because the actor was a substance abuser and had a contract so they couldn�t just fire him.) Meek Asian girl, and what the writers though of as �sexy� content was sad. Real sad. �oh no! my top fell off in the tube ting!� And what�s with T�Pol always almost going into Pon farr all the time?
Now reboot Trek has put things on the right track. Every character got there own moment and Uhura who has for the most part set dressing is now a main character, maybe even replacing bones in the trinity. Slight problem is this is the original cast so the possibility of getting underrepresented people in with new characters is small.
I guess Crysta, what I�m trying to get at is that things like these are a long painful agonizing process and while things might not be perfect, there are worth while things out there. And we need to hold onto them and fight to get new and better things. I too feel the same way about tokiens as you do Crysta, but sometimes I think the way we�re given things might have warped our minds into thinking these things. At first I didn�t bother watching Avatar: The Last Airbender because I thought it was just some stupid anime rip off that nick churned out to cast in on Naruto, 1 Piece, & Bleach and that it would be just like those. But also when I saw the characters I felt that it was going to be like how M. Night�s movie was, Asian flavor with a white boy and some Indians as sidekicks who he saves.
Now when I saw the Dali Lama and 2 eskimo kids why did I think they were just tokens or some shallow attempt to say the show is honoring Mongolians and Indians? It�s somewhat sad to think about it.
I think maybe why Crysta feels the who she does is because she�s been burned too many times and just comes to expect something who�s not a while man to either not get the treatment they deserve or are written out or out right killed or something like that. So she just figures who bother at times. I know I often feel like that. We fall in love with a cool black man and then there all like: �Hey black man turn the power on.� And he�s fucking eaten the lizards. It�s even sadder for me when the interesting girl dies and the plain boring blonde lives.
Damn it�s almost 2 I should quit while In ahead and stuff.
Penguin
10-25-2010, 08:18 AM
tl;dr
Dr Faustus
10-25-2010, 10:13 PM
We all bleed red and we all laugh when someone falls on their ass.
Marceline
10-25-2010, 10:32 PM
I think maybe why Crysta feels the who she does is because she’s been burned too many times and just comes to expect something who’s not a while man to either not get the treatment they deserve or are written out or out right killed or something like that. So she just figures who bother at times. I know I often feel like that. We fall in love with a cool black man and then there all like: “Hey black man turn the power on.” And he’s fucking eaten the lizards. It’s even sadder for me when the interesting girl dies and the plain boring blonde lives.
Damn it’s almost 2 I should quit while In ahead and stuff.
Now this is something I completely understand. There've been quite a few shows that started out with a diverse and interesting cast, but along the way all the minority characters are either killed off, written off, pushed to the sidelines, or out and out ignored.
Sometimes it's strange to me, because while I think a lot of people are racist/sexist/otherwise bigoted, and I absolutely think Hollywood is pretty racist, but it still feels so off that these sort of things happen time and time again. I'm getting totally off the topic of comics again, but what's really confusing to me is that I assume the biggest motivator for all these organizations is money, but doing these things doesn't seem to be in their best interest. Statistically speaking, hispanics are more likely to pay to see a movie in theaters than any other demo, but the percentage of hispanic characters in movies is really small. Even when hispanic actors are getting parts, they're often cast as white characters. Tyler Perry's movies make insane amounts of money, but he is one of the only people out there doing movies with a predominately black cast.
I believe that a big part of the problem with comics right now is nostalgia based and not motivated by racism. I think you actually posted an article about this, Tom! Writers want to get rid of legacy characters and bring back the characters of their youth, but since so many of these characters are minorities, and comics don't have enough minority characters to begin with, it becomes pretty problematic. I wish more writers would learn from how well Ted Kord/Jaime Reyes stuff has been handled.
Comic fans can obviously be a problem with this too. When Dwayne McDuffie was doing his run on JLA, he wasn't allowed to use just about any of the universe's heavy hitters, and was blocked from many other minor characters as well, since they were in other team books or had other important story stuff going on. He brought in what characters he could, several of whom were black, and the outrage over this was disgusting. There were people all over whining about the "reverse racism" (no words for how much I hate that term, btw), and how he was only doing this because he was black. Team books are one of the few places female and non-white characters have really been allowed to thrive, and it's depressing to see they're still only allowed to do that if there are plenty of white guys around. I wouldn't pick Vixen for the JLA either, but she's certainly much better than someone like Congorilla. And what could possibly be wrong with established heroes like Cyborg and John Stewart being a part of the league?
With comics and with any other form of media, people will often blame its failure on the sex and race of the characters. Ongoings like Black Lightning, She-Hulk, the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle series, all are said to have failed because readers don't want to read about black/female/hispanic superheroes. But nobody tries to say that series like Magog, Captain Britain (which was amazing, btw), The Web are canceled because people don't want to read about white dudes. I feel like these comics are often under-appreciated for how well they do sell, too. Birds of Prey easily outsells books like X-Force, X-Factor, and both JSA books, but the only other female dominated team book I can name is the Gotham City Sirens, which, although it is a comic I enjoy, is pretty much cheesecake. Zatanna's ongoing beats books like Deadpool Corps, Teen Titans, and the celebrity written Green Hornet, but her character isn't getting any sort of mainstream attention.
So yes, it's very frustrating, but that's why I make an effort to buy books like Power Girl every month to try to get it through to comic companies that this is what they should doing more of. Even though I really like talking about stuff like this here, my wallet is the biggest vote I get and I try to take full advantage of that. If only there was a way I could pay DC to give Mr. Terrific an ongoing (or to let me write my Martian Manhunter/Miss Martian one).
Tanis
10-25-2010, 10:47 PM
It's not racism, it's money.
A 'sure thing' gets more attention & money than a 'it could be good'.
Why do you see so many reboots or remakes or movies based off of older material?
matt damon
10-25-2010, 10:53 PM
birds of prey is pretty awesome so i see why it's getting so many sales, but zatanna is so well written. how come it's not getting more attention? and what do you mean GCS is cheesecake? it's amazingly awesome :(
Marceline
10-25-2010, 10:58 PM
I addressed the money issue, tanis.
And robbu, I think it's a great comic and a lot of fun, but the art is pure cheesecake. I think it suits the comic and I don't have a problem with it, but it's drastically different from Birds of Prey (which also sells better, btw). Give Gail Simone more comics, DC! She is wonderful. ; ; Secret Six is also fantastic.
matt damon
10-25-2010, 11:14 PM
i don't see how it's cheesecake tbh but :(
Marceline
10-26-2010, 12:12 AM
Tom Toonami Tunes
10-26-2010, 06:45 AM
What the hell,Poison Ivy is a Swamp Thing!
I think one of the other problems that goes with the nostalgia thing you said is that when you adapt an older property, one which is mainly white men you have 2 choices if you want more female or minority characters, change an already established character's color or gender or add an original character. Both of which are met with shaky results at best.
I'm not all that thrilled with changing a character by swapping their color or making them gay or stuff like that. Sometimes it can work great like, say Michael Clarke Duncan as the Kingpin. But is has to be done in a certain way, very carefully. Most of the time it doesn't work all that well like it comes off as kinda uncomfortable. Like a person's color which will hold a strong history for his or her background is just set dressing and can be swapped out like a clothing style. Not that with some characters their color is always an important part of their background it's just if not handled correctly things come off as condescending at best and ignorant as worst (or should I have switched those?)
Personally I'd rather see a new gay hero than make Colossus gay or instead of making some 3rd tier character Hispanic who was already white make a new character if you want to develop a latino but some people just plan hate new guys so they'll claim those as tokens.
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Superheroes Meet Dr. Seuss in Mashup Covers (
http://io9.com/5436594/superheroes-meet-dr-seuss-in-mashup-covers/gallery/)
Images saved off of io9 don't want to upload to anything.
Marceline
10-26-2010, 02:59 PM
What the hell,Poison Ivy is a Swamp Thing!
I think one of the other problems that goes with the nostalgia thing you said is that when you adapt an older property, one which is mainly white men you have 2 choices if you want more female or minority characters, change an already established character's color or gender or add an original character. Both of which are met with shaky results at best.
I'm not all that thrilled with changing a character by swapping their color or making them gay or stuff like that. Sometimes it can work great like, say Michael Clarke Duncan as the Kingpin. But is has to be done in a certain way, very carefully. Most of the time it doesn't work all that well like it comes off as kinda uncomfortable. Like a person's color which will hold a strong history for his or her background is just set dressing and can be swapped out like a clothing style. Not that with some characters their color is always an important part of their background it's just if not handled correctly things come off as condescending at best and ignorant as worst (or should I have switched those?)
Personally I'd rather see a new gay hero than make Colossus gay or instead of making some 3rd tier character Hispanic who was already white make a new character if you want to develop a latino but some people just plan hate new guys so they'll claim those as tokens.
I don't particularly mind race/gender/sexuality changing if it doesn't happen in the main comics universe, like with Colossus. Just doing it for the novelty of it might come off as lame, but you know, I think there are interesting stories you could tell with a gay Batman, an Asian Superman, a female Joker. Sometimes I don't think the Ultimate Universe takes advantage of the opportunities presented by an alternate universe enough and it's often used to tell near identical stories without having to worry so much about backstory.
But in the main comics universe, Colossus or Batman becoming gay wouldn't fit what we've seen on the characters at all (yes, non-bat comic readers, Batman is pretty firmly established as being straight). Changing Superman's race would be extremely weird, and no one wants to see anyone else be the Joker (though I actually think you could do a neat story with Harley Quinn trying to pose as the Joker). I have no problem with making characters who haven't been established as being straight gay or bi. Rob Liefeld hated it, but I think the Rictor/Shatterstar stuff was doing this right. It not only didn't conflict with what we knew of the characters, but it drew on the character's past together to set up their relationship. Changing a character's race is pretty much always problematic to me, but I didn't think the Kyle Rayner thing- raised by a single mom, later learned his dad was Hispanic- was too bad, if that's what you were referencing.
I love legacy characters, but when they're handled badly, it's a mess. I have absolutely enjoyed Barry Allen since he's been brought back to life. However, the guy'd been dead since the 80's, so the very least they could have done was thought through how they were going to handle having so many Flashes once he was around. 4 guys with speedster Powers, similar color schemes in their costumes, who have all used the name "The Flash" is pretty problematic, but it can work if every character has a clear and separate role in the universe. And without Barry, they pretty much did. Jay Garrick is somewhat retired, has diminished speed capabilities, is referred to by his last name and, though he still fights with the JSA, works largely in a mentor role, frequently giving advice to the other people in the Flash family. Bart has taken back the Kid Flash mantle (he should be going by Impulse, but I can live with this), and he works with the Teen Titans, who don't otherwise have a speedster. The world of the Teen Titans and the adult heroes in the DCU is pretty separate (probably more separate than it should be, given the Titans death toll) so again, it works. But Wally and Barry are completely in conflict with each other. Their costumes are almost identical. They both use the name Flash. And they're both heroes who have served with the current JLA, and who have identical powers. Since Barry's newly back, it means Wally (and his family) are completely pushed to the sidelines. Finding a way to differentiate these two should have been something they worked on before Barry was raised from the dead.
And part of the reason I think the Batfamily has worked so well is how much they've worked to differentiate these characters from each other. Every character feels like they serve a different purpose. Gotham clearly needs all the heroes it can get, and since most of them don't have powers, it increases the need for them all the more. Things between the Batfamily and all the other Gotham based heroes are also really well organized, which I think more comics should try and use it as an example. All the characters Marvel has in New York has always been hugely problematic for me.
Making characters feel really separate and different even if they're a completely original character too is important, I think. I mean, if you introduce a new guy but he's basically got Guy Gardner's personality and super speed powers, it's going to be really tricky to make him seem vital to the universe. I know she's not completely original, but look at Batwoman- really unique costuming, with the fire red wig, unusually done military background, the father/daughter team aspect, that in spite of her tragedy motivator she didn't even think to begin being a superhero till much later in her life, her rockabilly style when she's out of costume, coming out of the gate with her own villains, having connections to a retired hero, although she isn't aware of it. All these things help make her feel like an authentic part of the universe and a really new character, and I think all of that, plus the combination of having amazing art and a great writer for her stories (and getting featured in multiple high selling comics), is why she's been pretty accepted by fans and hasn't been dismissed as being ~that lesbian character~.
Exploring a new part of the world helps to create new heroes without it feeling like you're shoving characters in too. I know I've already mentioned Grant Morrison bringing in the Super Young Team from Japan and pulling Britain's Knight and Squire out of the Silver Age, but you don't even have to leave America to do this. All Bryan K. Vaughn had to do was stick his Runaways in LA, and it felt completely authentic for there to have been a supervillain syndicate that had basically been ignored up until this point. Runways had a pretty diverse cast of characters, and that coupled with the fact that it was sold in a manga like format when released in trades helped to bring in the new people to comics that both companies desperately need.
Comic companies can't keep catering to the guys who hate all new characters and who want things to stay exactly as they are. They have to appeal to new people, and they have to keep things from feeling stale. I know I complained about some stuff when all the Bruce being gone stuff was first introduced, but it wound up being fantastic for the Batverse, and I think the inexplicable removal of Cassandra Cain is the only aspect of them that's suffered. Change isn't always good, but it can be, and it's something that comics need. Better to try, fail, and amusingly retcon than to let things stagnate.
matt damon
10-26-2010, 07:26 PM
what you brought up about legacy characters is precisely why i don't like them, among other reasons. it just gets too messy and too complicated. i think that's a reason why i don't really like DC. WAAAY too many legacy characters. imo, there should only be one character with that one codename.
i agree on the gotham/marvel new york thing. i really like how in batcomics they all refer to each other. in birds of prey, oracle contacts the batcave for info/help, and then in GCS, harley or ivy or whoever will make a reference to another batcomic group/person. i've always liked cross referencing like that. also, i get annoyed by the NYC thing too. i mean, how many villains can be in one city, especially with that many heroes in it. how can regular people even stand to live there anymore with all the violence and chaos going on around them. that's why i was happy that they moved the x-men to san francisco. that city is barely used in comics, and it was a nice change of scenery, and it enabled for new stories to be told. this sort of relates to the runaways point you brought up. the fact that it was set in a completely new and unused city/setting allowed the comic to be fresh from the beginning, not to mention that it's an awesome comic that's so well written and the art, excluding that one little hiccup, is really good. i'm still super worried it's gonna be cancelled since it's been on hiatus for so long.
yes, it is better to try and if it fails, retcon, but sometimes retcons make things worse then they were before. you know the example i'm gonna bring up, lol.
Tanis
10-27-2010, 09:07 AM
I enjoy alternative universe stuff, like 'The Red Sun' & 'Superman - Last Son of Earth'...
Personally I felt 'Old Man Logan' where the start of the comic is the end of the world, at least for all the good guys, was better than most stuff to come out in recent memory.
I love to see more done with the universe.
Sackboy
10-27-2010, 09:11 AM
How Ironic. Since I've been taking advantage of Netflix, I've been watching all of the old Superman movies, but really, only part 1 and 2 really count, anywho, I just opened Yahoo and they're talking about Superman: Earth One. I'm not really down with the new look.
Superman Gets a Hipster Makeover - Crush: Hollywood's Next Generation - omg! on Yahoo (
http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/crush/superman-gets-a-hipster-makeover/488)
What is with this hipster bulllllllshit? Hipster refers to someone from the 70s! Not Scott Pilgram and not that emo superman.
Emo isn't dead. It's still a perfectly viable adjective!
Don't let TK tell you otherwise. I mean, shit, he thinks American Idiot shouldn't have been a musical ;)
Sackboy
10-27-2010, 09:33 AM
Last I recall "hipster" was kinda subjective, beyond that, that emo-Superman can suck it.
Sackboy
10-27-2010, 09:38 AM
chimpanzees are hipsters
Crysta
10-27-2010, 05:23 PM
Sorry i can't respond to every post. I do not have a steady internet connection, so i make due when i can. Now i will admit that Star Trek was the perfect example of good multiculturalism, instead of network pandering. Now the new Star Trek reboot. I'm sorry it just...OH gawd. I still can't get the image of Spock and Uhura french kissing! MAKE IT STOP PLEASE!!! Ahem...i have my gripes about the reboot as a fan of Star Trek since 1981, the reboot movie was good in some areas and totally insulting in others. More on that much, much later. Now as far as the rest of our topic. Yes i do agree that there are some good characters that are multicultural. Although i did not know that Kitty Pryde was jewish. To be honest i really don't care. But alas i don't have time to say much more so i'll end it quickly. Overall i think the entertainment industry does a lot of pandering to multiculturalism for the sake of money and to placate minority and special interest groups. Not because they actually care.
Marceline
10-27-2010, 05:35 PM
yes, it is better to try and if it fails, retcon, but sometimes retcons make things worse then they were before. you know the example i'm gonna bring up, lol.
Yeah, I absolutely agree retcons can make things worse. They're why I stopped reading Uncanny X-Men and most 616 Spidey stuff. In the case of the Spidey stuff especially though, I don't think they were a retcon done because they tried something new that failed. A lot of great, interesting stuff was going on with him at the time. Pete had publicly unmasked, which was huge and hadn't even gotten played with much, storywise yet (worth mentioning that Quesada had said there'd be years worth of stories about this when it happened), and he'd also had a lot of growth as a character, including becoming a science teacher, which I though was a really neat development. Although I am a Peter and MJ fan, I'd be okay with them splitting up, but the way they did it is really problematic, even if you leave out the whole selling the marriage to the devil thing. Marvel (well, Quesada) has stated that they want their stories to be about a single Spider-man. Which means he might date, he might even be in a relationship for a while, but fans know after a while, things will go back to the status quo of him being a single loser again. And knowing that things aren't going to be changing is a huge problem.
I also think that with One More Day, they demonstrated that they are not going to let May Parker die anytime soon. And I think this is a big problem too. I'm not some old lady hater wishing for Aunt May's death, but this is another thing that makes the Spidey books feel as though they're never going to change. It's not good for the future of the comic.
also, old people are hipsters, cause they have hip replacements~
Tom Toonami Tunes
10-27-2010, 07:17 PM
Female Joker is a very scary thought indeed!
Having several non powered crime fighters working in the same location is a very good Idea. When Batman Beyond was on I wondered why Old Man Bruce only used Terry and not find at least a few more people. What if Terry quit or was wounded too much to function? Plus having several guys means you all can take a break and deal with non bat life like school work. How did Terry get anything done?
As for New York, it would make for a great one shot or mini series to have it like a Mad Max Escape form New York setting wear it's just super powers slugging it out in a huge war zone.
Would centipedes be the ultimate hipsters?
Tom Toonami Tunes
10-27-2010, 08:42 PM
Sackboy
10-27-2010, 09:29 PM
lol
What a wretched title. Just since 2003 we've had:
Rise of the Lycans
Rise of Cobra
Rise: Blood Hunter
Rise of the Silver Surfer
Rise of the Machines
Rise of the Apes (2011)
Hannibal Rising
Valhalla Rising
Rising Mighty
Rising Pegasus
Rising Dragon
Rising Titan
Rising Ultimate
Dr Faustus
10-27-2010, 10:48 PM
Rising Damp :(
Sackboy
10-27-2010, 10:53 PM
How about some videos games like
Dead Rising
Metal Gear Solid: Rising
Marceline
10-27-2010, 11:08 PM
Batgirl Rising
Batman: Dark Moon Rising
Batman: Orpheus Rising
Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu
And if I don't just stick to Bat books:
Son of Hulk: Dark Son Rising
Fantastic Four: Rising Storm
Fantastic Four: Atlantis Rising
Blackest Night: Rise of the Black Lanterns
Legion of Super-Heroes: Enemy Rising
X-Men First Class: Rise Robot, Rise
Superman: Rise of the Robots
X-Men: Phoenix Rising (hi rob)
Wolverine/Nick Fury: Scorpio Rising
Justice League: Rise and Fall
Supernatural: Rising Son
Wonder Woman: Ares Rising
Wonder Woman: Rise of the Olympian
Darkseid Rising
Justice League of America: New Moon Rising
Amazing Spider-Man: Rising Son
Justice Society of America: Double Star Rising
Uncanny X-Men: Rise & Fall of the Shi'ar Empire
Ghost Rider: Rise of the Midnight Sons
Lunchbox McGillicuddy
10-28-2010, 12:20 AM
Rising Rising is the best
Rising Rising is less redundant than Rising Ultimate. It's true.
Sackboy
10-28-2010, 12:54 AM
Yoko Ono - Rising
Bruce Springsteen - the Rising
Black Water Rising
Great White - Rising
Vengeance Rising
Tom Toonami Tunes
10-28-2010, 06:20 AM
Lather, Rise, Repeat!
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Star Wars: Dark Force Rising
MadKalnod
10-29-2010, 07:15 PM
When I rise tomorrow (what an awful segue), I'll be heading out to my Friendly Neighborhood Comics Emporium, Level Up Entertainment in Egg Harbor Township, NJ (
http://bn-in.facebook.com/pages/Northfield-NJ/Level-Up-Entertainment/65595896816), here's what I'm most looking forward to:
MIKE�S ANTICIPATED NEW RELEASE LIST 10/30/2010
AVATAR PRESS
MAY100797 GRAVEL #21, $3.99
BBC BOOKS
MAY101104 DOCTOR WHO: THE ONLY GOOD DALEK GN, $20.99
DARK HORSE COMICS
AUG100025 BEASTS OF BURDEN/HELLBOY ONE SHOT, $3.50
AUG100036 BILLY THE KID�S OLD-TIMEY ODDITIES AND THE GHASTLY FIEND OF LONDON #2 (OF 4), $3.99
AUG100013 STAR WARS: BLOOD TIES - A TALE OF JANGO & BOBA FETT #3 (OF 4), $3.50
AUG100015 STAR WARS: INVASION - RESCUES #5 (OF 6), $2.99
DC COMICS
AUG100141 BRUCE WAYNE: THE ROAD HOME - ORACLE #1, $2.99
AUG100142 BRUCE WAYNE: THE ROAD HOME - RAS� AL-GHUL #1, $2.99
AUG100151 DETECTIVE COMICS #870, $3.99
DC/VERTIGO COMICS
AUG100266 CONSTANTINE: HELLBLAZER - CITY OF DEMONS #2 (OF 5), $2.99
AUG100256 JACK OF FABLES #48, $2.99
DC/WILDSTORM COMICS
AUG100244 FRINGE: TALES FROM THE FRINGE #5 (OF 6), $3.99
MARVEL COMICS
AUG100555 AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #646, $2.99
AUG100560 SPIDER-MAN/FANTASTIC FOUR #4 (OF 4), $3.99
AUG100561 SPIDER-MAN VS VAMPIRES #1, $3.99
AUG100548 ULTIMATE COMICS: MYSTERY #4 (OF 4), $3.99
AUG100549 ULTIMATE COMICS: SPIDER-MAN #15, $3.99
RADICAL PUBLISHING
JUL101105 HOTWIRE: DEEP CUT #2 (OF 3), $3.50
TITAN PUBLISHING
SEP101123 TORCHWOOD #4, $3.99
BOOKS & MAGAZINES
MAY101255 DOCTOR WHO: THE BRILLIANT BOOK OF DOCTOR WHO HC, $19.99
MAY101256 DOCTOR WHO: THE COMING OF THE TERRAPHILES HC, $24.95
CDS & DVDS
APR101781 BLAKE�S 7 SEASON 1 AUDIO CD SET $59.99
What about Y'all?
Marceline
10-29-2010, 07:48 PM
Stuff I'm psyched for in November:
Trades-
Absolute All-Star Superman (probably won't buy it but still!)
Batman and Robin Deluxe Edition Vol. 2 (pre-ordered this ages ago)
Last Stand of New Krypton Vol. 1
The Green Lantern Omnibus
Issues-
Superboy #1
Batman and Robin #16 and #17
Brightest Day #13 and #14
Secret Six #27
Return of Bruce Wayne #6
Birds of Prey #6
Generation Lost #13
Emerald Warriors #4
Knight and Squire #2
Red Robin #17
Batman Inc #1
Power Girl #18
New Green Lantern/Green Lantern Corps
Action Comics #895
Detective Comics #871
Justice Society of America #45
Tom Strong and the Robots of Doom #6
Batwoman #0
Zatanna #7
The Unwritten #19
Last Unicorn #6
Captain America: Man Out of Time #1
Captain America #612
Sure I'm forgetting a bunch of stuff because I am way less awesome than Mr. MadKalnod, but oh well, you get the idea. I like DC comics with Bat characters in them and also unicorns~
MadKalnod
10-29-2010, 08:46 PM
Interesting to see how much our tastes intersect. Here's what I'm anticipating in November:
Comics
Dark Horse Comics
Hellboy: Double Feature of Evil, $3.50
B.P.R.D.: Hell on Earth � New World #4 of 5, $3.50
Billy the Kid�s Old-Timey Oddities and the Ghastly Fiend of London #3 of 4, $3.99
Star Wars: Blood Ties � A Tale of Jango and Boba Fett #4 of 4, $3.50
Star Wars: Knight Errant #2 of 5, $2.99
Star Wars: The Old Republic #5, $2.99
DC Comics
Batman, Inc. #1, $3.99
Batman: The Dark Knight #1, $3.99
Batwoman #0, $3.99
Batman #704, $2.99
Detective Comics #871, $3.99
Batman & Robin #17, $2.99
Knight & Squire #2 of 6, $2.99
Batman/Catwoman: Follow the Money #1, $4.99
Batman: Streets of Gotham #17, $3.99
Gotham City Sirens #17, $2.99
Batgirl #15, $2.99
Birds of Prey #6, $2.99
Batman Beyond #6 of 6, $2.99
Red Hood: Lost Days #6 of 6, $2.99
Red Robin #17, $2.99
Batman Confidential #50, $2.99
Secret Six #27, $2.99
DC Comics Presents: Batman #2, $7.99
DC/WildStorm Comics
Fringe: Tales From the Fringe #6 of 6, $3.99
Ides of Blood #4 of 6, $3.99
X-Files/30 Days of Night #5 of 6, $3.99
DC/Vertigo Comics
Peter & Max: A Fables Novel TP, $14.99
John Constantine: Hellblazer � City of Demons #3 of 5, $2.99
John Constantine: Hellblazer � City of Demons #4 of 5, $2.99
Hellblazer #273, $2.99
iZombie #7, $2.99
IDW Publishing
Dungeons & Dragons #1, $3.99
George R.R. Martin�s Doorways #1 of 4, $3.99
Star Trek: Khan - Ruling in Hell #2 of 4, $3.99
Marvel Comics
Avengers: Earth�s Mightiest Heroes #1 of 4, $3.99
Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man #150, $3.99
Amazing Spider-Man #648, $2.99
Amazing Spider-Man #649, $2.99
Osborn #1 of 5, $3.99
Heroic Age: Villains #1, $3.99
Archaia Entertainment
Days Missing: Kestus #3 of 5, $3.95
Boom! Studios
FarScape #13, $3.99
FarScape: Scorpius #7, $3.99
Dynamite Entertainment
Jim Butcher�s The Dresden Files: Fool Moon Volume 1 #2, $3.99
Do Gooder Press
P.S.238 #49, $2.99
Oni Press
The Sixth Gun #6, $3.99
Radical Publishing
Ryder on the Storm #2 of 3, $4.99
Driver for the Dead #3 of 3, $4.99
Books & Magazines
Doctor Who Magazine #428 $8.40
Collectibles & Novelties
Star Wars: �I Shot First� Black T-Shirt XXL, $19.99
I guess basically my pull list is:
Anything with Batman or a member of his supporting cast in it (Except the Outsiders)
Anything with Spider-Man or a member of his supporting cast in it.
Anything based on Doctor Who, FarScape, Fringe, Ghostbusters, Star Trek, Star Wars, or The X-Files.
Anything about monster hunters, paranormal investigators, or supernatural detectives.
Anything with an arresting sci-fi concept, preferrably space opera.
Dr Faustus
10-29-2010, 08:54 PM
You guys have so much every month. I picked up one of my regulars today and while it's new to me it's just reprint from the States. Revenge of the Red Hood: Part 3. On the other hand, if I had acces to all the stuff you guys have I'd never be able to afford everything I want. :sad:
MadKalnod
10-29-2010, 09:30 PM
What makes you think I can afford everything I want? Here's what's still sitting in my hold box, waiting for me to pick it up in $30+/- chunks each week:
MIKE'S COMICS BOX AS OF 10/26/2010
AVATAR PRESS
CAPTAIN SWING #2 (OF 4), $3.99 ($3.42)
GRAVEL #20, $3.99 ($3.42)
WARREN ELLIS�S DO ANYTHING VOLUME 1, $5.99 ($5.13)
BOOM! STUDIOS
COLD SPACE #3 (OF 4), $3.99 ($3.42)
COLD SPACE #4 (OF 4), $3.99 ($3.42)
DARK HORSE COMICS
ABE SAPIEN: THE ABYSSAL PLAIN #1 (OF 2), $3.50 ($3.00)
ABE SAPIEN: THE ABYSSAL PLAIN #2 (OF 2), $3.50 ($3.00)
BILLY THE KID�S OLD-TIMEY ODDITIES AND THE GHASTLY FIEND OF LONDON #1 (OF 4), $3.99 ($3.42)
B.P.R.D.: HELL ON EARTH - NEW WORLD #1 (OF 5), $3.50 ($3.00)
B.P.R.D.: HELL ON EARTH - NEW WORLD #2 (OF 5), $3.50 ($3.00)
B.P.R.D.: HELL ON EARTH - NEW WORLD #3 (OF 5), $3.50 ($3.00)
BUZZARD #2 (OF 3), $3.50 ($3.00)
BUZZARD #3 (OF 3), $3.50 ($3.00)
HELLBOY: THE STORM #1 (OF 3), $2.99 ($2.57)
HELLBOY: THE STORM #2 (OF 3), $2.99 ($2.57)
HELLBOY: THE STORM #3 (OF 3), $2.99 ($2.57)
THE WEDNESDAY CONSPIRACY SC, $19.99 ($17.11)
DC COMICS
BATMAN AND ROBIN #15, $2.99 ($2.57)
BATMAN BEYOND #5 (OF 6), $2.99 ($2.57)
BRUCE WAYNE: THE ROAD HOME - BATGIRL #1, $2.99 ($2.57)
BRUCE WAYNE: THE ROAD HOME - BATMAN & ROBIN #1, $2.99 ($2.57)
BRUCE WAYNE: THE ROAD HOME - CATWOMAN #1, $2.99 ($2.57)
BRUCE WAYNE: THE ROAD HOME - COMMISSIONER GORDON #1, $2.99 ($2.57)
BRUCE WAYNE: THE ROAD HOME - OUTSIDERS #1, $2.99 ($2.57)
BRUCE WAYNE: THE ROAD HOME - RED ROBIN #1, $2.99 ($2.57)
DC COMICS PRESENTS: BATMAN #1, $7.99 ($6.84)
KNIGHT & SQUIRE #1 (OF 6), $2.99 ($2.57)
DC/VERTIGO COMICS
CONSTANTINE: HELLBLAZER - CITY OF DEMONS #1 (OF 5), $2.99 ($2.57)
FABLES #97, $2.99 ($2.57)
FABLES #98, $2.99 ($2.57)
FABLES #99, $2.99 ($2.57)
HELLBLAZER #272, $2.99 ($2.57)
IZOMBIE #3, $2.99 ($2.57)
IZOMBIE #4, $2.99 ($2.57)
IZOMBIE #5, $2.99 ($2.57)
IZOMBIE #6, $2.99 ($2.57)
JACK OF FABLES #46, $2.99 ($2.57)
JACK OF FABLES #47, $2.99 ($2.57)
DC/WILDSTORM COMICS
IDES OF BLOOD #1 (OF 6), $3.99 ($3.42)
IDES OF BLOOD #2 (OF 6), $3.99 ($3.42)
IDES OF BLOOD #3 (OF 6), $3.99 ($3.42)
X-FILES/30 DAYS OF NIGHT #4 (OF 6), $3.99 ($3.42)
DO-GOODER PRESS
P.S.238 #41, $2.99 ($2.57)
P.S.238 #42, $2.99 ($2.57)
P.S.238 #43, $2.99 ($2.57)
P.S.238 #44, $2.99, ($2.57)
P.S.238 #45, $2.99 ($2.57)
P.S.238 #46, $2.99 ($2.57)
DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT
GEORGE R. R. MARTIN�S WILD CARDS: THE HARD CALL #6 (OF 6), $3.99 ($3.42)
IDW PUBLISHING
JAMES PATTERSON�S MURDER OF KING TUT #5 (OF 5), $3.99 ($3.42)
MYSTERY SOCIETY #1 (OF 5), $3.99 ($3.42)
MYSTERY SOCIETY #2 (OF 5), $3.99 ($3.42)
MYSTERY SOCIETY #3 (OF 5), $3.99 ($3.42)
IMAGE COMICS
ELEPHANTMEN #27, $3.50 ($3.00)
PROOF #28, $3.50 ($3.00)
PVP #43, $3.50 ($3.00)
PVP #44, $3.50 ($3.00)
PVP #45, $3.50 ($3.00)
TURF #2 (OF 5), $2.99 ($2.57)
TURF #3 (OF 5), $2.99 ($2.57)
KENZER & COMPANY
KNIGHTS OF THE DINNER TABLE #156, $4.99 ($4.27)
KNIGHTS OF THE DINNER TABLE #158, $4.99 ($4.27)
KNIGHTS OF THE DINNER TABLE #159, $4.99 ($4.27)
KNIGHTS OF THE DINNER TABLE #160, $4.99 ($4.27)
KNIGHTS OF THE DINNER TABLE #161, $4.99 ($4.27)
KNIGHTS OF THE DINNER TABLE #162, $4.99 ($4.27)
KNIGHTS OF THE DINNER TABLE #163, $4.99 ($4.27)
MARVEL COMICS
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #645, $2.99 ($2.57)
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN PRESENTS: BLACK CAT #4 (OF 4), $3.99 ($3.42)
CARNAGE #1 (OF 5), $3.99 ($3.42)
DEADPOOL CORPS: RANK AND FOUL, $3.99 ($3.42)
HEROIC AGE: SUPER-HEROES, $3.99 ($3.42)
IRON MANUAL 3.0, $3.99 ($3.42)
OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE: A TO Z UPDATE #1, $3.99 ($3.42)
OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE: A TO Z UPDATE #3, $3.99 ($3.42)
OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE: A TO Z UPDATE #4, $3.99 ($3.42)
SIEGE: STORMING ASGARD - HEROES AND VILLAINS, $3.99 ($3.42)
X-MEN: PHOENIX FORCE HANDBOOK, $4.99 ($4.27)
MOONSTONE BOOKS
VAMPIRE, PA #2 (OF 3), $3.99 ($3.42)
ONI PRESS
GHOST PROJEKT #3 (OF 5), $3.99 ($3.42)
GHOST PROJEKT #4 (OF 5), $3.99 ($3.42)
THE SIXTH GUN #1, $3.99 ($3.42)
THE SIXTH GUN #2, $3.99 ($3.42)
THE SIXTH GUN #3, $3.99 ($3.42)
THE SIXTH GUN #4, $3.99 ($3.42)
THE SIXTH GUN #5, $3.99 ($3.42)
RADICAL PUBLISHING
DRIVER FOR THE DEAD #1 (OF 3), $4.99 ($4.27)
DRIVER FOR THE DEAD #2 (OF 3), $4.99 ($4.27)
HOTWIRE: DEEP CUT #1 (OF 3), $3.50 ($3.00)
RYDER ON THE STORM #1 (OF 3), $4.99, ($4.27)
SHRAPNEL: HUBRIS #2 (OF 3), $4.99 ($4.27)
RED 5 COMICS
BOX 13 GN, $13.00 ($11.13)
DRONE #3 (OF 4), $3.50 ($3.00)
DRONE #4 (OF 4), $3.50 ($3.00)
BOOKS & MAGAZINES
DC SUPERHERO FIGURINE COLLECTION MAGAZINE #64: THE QUESTION, $14.00 ($11.98)
DOCTOR WHO: NUCLEAR TIME HC, $11.99 ($10.26)
DOCTOR WHO: THE GLAMOUR CHASE HC, $11.99 ($10.26)
DOCTOR WHO: THE KING�S DRAGON HC, $11.99 ($10.26)
DOCTOR WHO: THE TARDIS HANDBOOK HC, $19.99 ($17.11)
CDS & DVDS
DC COMICS 75TH ANNIVERSARY COMPILATION CD, $14.99 ($12.83)
DOCTOR WHO NEW RADIO ADVENTURES AUDIO CD, $19.95 ($17.08)
T-SHIRTS & HATS
DOCTOR WHO: VENN DIAGRAM LIGHT BLUE T/S XXL, $19.99 ($17.11)
GHOSTBUSTERS: STAY BUSTIN� BLACK T/S XXL, $19.99 ($17.11)
GOTHAM CITY POLICE T/S XXL, $20.95 ($17.93)
GRAND TOTAL = $544.55 ($466.13)
Even with my 20% subscriber discount (the price in parentheses, including tax), it's gonna be a long time before I get to the bottom of that stack. Frell, I've got credit cards with lower balances on them. Still, the lads running my Friendly Local Comics Emporium are understanding guys, and the fact that my brother's box has been twice as full for far longer goes a long way towards mitigating any impatience thay may have.
Also, there's more than a few things in there that I've stopped ordering (namely KoDT), but I don't want to stiff them for the ones that arrived in store before I stopped, so I will purchase them eventually, although I'm in no hurry to get them anytime soon.
Other stuff like the Marvel handbooks (Pretty much all the Marvel stuff I've got hold apart from Spidey-related titles) aren't something I eagerly await reading, but I'd like them on my reference shelf as updates to my Marvel Encyclopedia at some point and don't want to let them slip past me.
Still others, like Drone and Vampire, PA, languish in the bottom of the stack because the amazing colossal frak-up factory that is Diamond Distributors never shipped the first issue or two of each series, and no comics shop that I've been to in South Jersey can re-order them, so I'm not getting the end of them until I find the beginnings somewhere.
Be grateful that your choices are so limited overseas, as it will save you from getting in as deep as I am.
matt damon
10-29-2010, 09:38 PM
or you could download them :D
MadKalnod
10-29-2010, 09:52 PM
or you could download them :D
It's just not the same. A significant portion of my Saturday routine involves leisurely enjoying the week's stack over dinner at Johnny Rocket's, and I neither have a laptop to view them on while I'm out and about, nor is there sufficient counter space to set it up and risk spilling milkshake all over it. That's another point in favor of physical hardcopies: There's no risk of losing everything due to the uncertainties of viruses and hard drive crashes.
I also can't download T-shirts, hats, or figurines.
matt damon
10-29-2010, 10:04 PM
It's just not the same. A significant portion of my Saturday routine involves leisurely enjoying the week's stack over dinner at Johnny Rocket's, and I neither have a laptop to view them on while I'm out and about, nor is there sufficient counter space to set it up and risk spilling milkshake all over it. That's another point in favor of physical hardcopies: There's no risk of losing everything due to the uncertainties of viruses and hard drive crashes.
I also can't download T-shirts, hats, or figurines.
could change the routine, but i understand not wanting to (that sounds like a super fun routine!)
on the other hand, digital copies can never get torn or damaged, or have stuff spilled on them. and if you do lose them, you can just redownload them, whereas if you lose a hard copy, you have to buy it again.
got me there on the merch.
MadKalnod
10-29-2010, 10:12 PM
on the other hand, digital copies can never get torn or damaged, or have stuff spilled on them. and if you do lose them, you can just redownload them, whereas if you lose a hard copy, you have to buy it again.
Ah, but the trick is finding it again to re-download. Look at how many links for scores go belly up around here, and the original uploaders are no longer around to re-post, as well as at various vanishing blogs.
Marceline
10-29-2010, 10:20 PM
So many of my trades have such nice extras too! For someone like me who aspires to work in comics, it is amazing to see things like rough sketches for characters and script pages, or to be able to read what Grant Morrison's inspiration for Professor Pyg was. I just wish it was easier to see what kind of extras stuff came with when you order it online.
Penguin
10-30-2010, 01:39 AM
mandi how did you like mai husbando
Tom Toonami Tunes
10-30-2010, 07:19 AM
It's just not the same. A significant portion of my Saturday routine involves leisurely enjoying the week's stack over dinner at Johnny Rocket's, and I neither have a laptop to view them on while I'm out and about, nor is there sufficient counter space to set it up and risk spilling milkshake all over it. That's another point in favor of physical hardcopies: There's no risk of losing everything due to the uncertainties of viruses and hard drive crashes.
I also can't download T-shirts, hats, or figurines.
That sounds very nice:)
mandi how did you like mai husbando
You haven't shown us your husbando.
Marceline
10-30-2010, 02:17 PM
Who is your husbando?
Tanis
10-31-2010, 12:17 AM
I wish I had that kind of cash....
I wanted to buy all of 'Civil War', but...screw that, I'd rather have a new PC!
Marceline
10-31-2010, 12:20 AM
Hardcover Civil War is less than $30! Unless you want the trades for all the other stuff too, like Civil War: Spider-Man, then it might run you a bit more.
Maybe I should be planning some kind of a comic contest here so that people can get their hands on some awesome trades!
Tom Toonami Tunes
10-31-2010, 12:24 AM
But what would we be contesting?
Marceline
10-31-2010, 12:26 AM
I'm not sure! We've done webcomic contests in the past, and they were pretty fun. I'd prefer to come up with something specifically related to comic books in this case, though.
I've actually been planning a completely different contest for a long time so maybe I should sort that out first. ;) I just got excited over the thought of being able to send comics to people, and maybe even being able to drive up interest in comics among the members here. ; ;
Tom Toonami Tunes
10-31-2010, 12:30 AM
I'm not sure! We've done webcomic contests in the past, and they were pretty fun. I'd prefer to come up with something specifically related to comic books in this case, though.
I've actually been planning a completely different contest for a long time so maybe I should sort that out first. ;) I just got excited over the thought of being able to send comics to people, and maybe even being able to drive up interest in comics among the members here. ; ;
Bless your sweet pure heart Mandi!<3 You're a rose in the cow pasture that we call the human race.
Penguin
10-31-2010, 02:00 AM
Who is your husbando?
Lelouch vi Britannia. <3
He's so bastard <3
Marceline
10-31-2010, 02:35 AM
Oh! I thought you were talking about something in one of the comics I'd mentioned so I was super confused.
Lelouch is a pretty fascinating character! He reminds me of a lot of other characters I like, like Artemis Fowl, Bruce Wayne, and Light Yagami, especially when he Geassed himself. I'm pretty sure before I started watching Code Geass I'd talked with you about how much I like "just as planned" type storylines so I'm sure you can guess what my feelings about the show's ending are. Probably didn't need to spoiler that last bit but I feel like being cautious.
Tanis
10-31-2010, 03:53 AM
Hardcover Civil War is less than $30! Unless you want the trades for all the other stuff too, like Civil War: Spider-Man, then it might run you a bit more.
Maybe I should be planning some kind of a comic contest here so that people can get their hands on some awesome trades!
As weird as it sounds...I prefer 'softcover' for my collections.
Which tend to run a lot a bit more, at least locally.
:(
I own both hardcover's of 'The Preacher', but I'm still buying softcover's of them because I enjoy having them.
matt damon
10-31-2010, 08:45 AM
i just cannot get into code geass and i've tried many times. i think the art style is what turns me off.
Marceline
10-31-2010, 03:16 PM
Haha, I really like the art style, but I'm a bigtime Clamp fan. They have a very distinct style though, so I get why it turns people off. I actually think Code Geass is a bit toned down from some of their other stuff, at least with the impossibly long limbs.
Crysta
11-02-2010, 08:13 PM
Haha, I really like the art style, but I'm a bigtime Clamp fan. They have a very distinct style though, so I get why it turns people off. I actually think Code Geass is a bit toned down from some of their other stuff, at least with the impossibly long limbs.
I like Clamp too! But i find it hard to get into. Every girl looks like CC Sakura. Creepy, seriously fucking creepy. Like just about every girl in Masamune Shirow's early works look like Leona Osaki from Old Dominion Tank Police
Marceline
11-02-2010, 08:39 PM
I actually think Sakura looks pretty different in Tsubasa Chronicles versus CCS! Moreso than a lot of the other repeat characters, even Tomoyo. But I totally get what you're saying. They have some same-face issues and I also think they tend to style their female characters pretty similarly. Chii and Kobato are the ones who look too much alike for me, even though I enjoy them both.
They actually (to me) have a lot more variety in how their characters look in their darker stuff, like X/1999 or xxxHolic. Some of their other stuff, like Clover, is a lot more creative with their panel layout too, not sure if that matters to you or not! Anyways, I like their style and I find a lot of their stuff to be heartwarming in a very authentic sort of way. Maybe that's just because I'm less used to stuff that would seem cliche in Japan, though. ;)
matt damon
11-02-2010, 08:50 PM
Haha, I really like the art style, but I'm a bigtime Clamp fan. They have a very distinct style though, so I get why it turns people off. I actually think Code Geass is a bit toned down from some of their other stuff, at least with the impossibly long limbs.
but i don't remember card captors being drawn the same way.
Tanis
11-02-2010, 08:54 PM
I like manga more than comics.
Marceline
11-02-2010, 09:01 PM
but i don't remember card captors being drawn the same way.
The younger characters like Sakura, Syaoran, Tomoyo, etc. weren't, and since they played the biggest role of the story I think the way they proportion characters doesn't stand out as much here. Toya and Yukito are definitely done in that style, though.

matt damon
11-02-2010, 09:03 PM
i'm going off my vague memories from watching like three episodes on toonami or whatever, but you might be right. i don't remember the adult characters too well.
Tanis
11-02-2010, 09:08 PM
Wow...wait, that's CCS?
Damn...it's been a LONG time since I've watch that show, looks more like yaio to me now.
Crysta
11-02-2010, 10:28 PM
The younger characters like Sakura, Syaoran, Tomoyo, etc. weren't, and since they played the biggest role of the story I think the way they proportion characters doesn't stand out as much here. Toya and Yukito are definitely done in that style, though.
Ugh. I am so tired of those effeminate looking gay/yaoi characters in anime and manga. I've been to Japan...and Japanese men do not naturally look like that!!! What makes it so creepy is that mostly men that draw characters like that. It would be cool if women did, then i could understand it better. *sigh*
Marceline
11-02-2010, 10:55 PM
CCS is Card Captor Sakura.
And Crysta, that picture was drawn by females. ^^ Clamp is an all female team. If you're not a big fan of that style of drawing male characters, though. I'd suggest looking into seinen manga titles. That art style doesn't seem to be popular there. I actually don't read a ton of manga, though, so I'm not so good with the recommendations in this department. I loved 20th Century Boys, I guess that's probably seinen!
Tanis
11-02-2010, 10:56 PM
You could always read 'Berserk'.
:3
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-04-2010, 08:30 PM
Ugh. I am so tired of those effeminate looking gay/yaoi characters in anime and manga. I've been to Japan...and Japanese men do not naturally look like that!!! What makes it so creepy is that mostly men that draw characters like that. It would be cool if women did, then i could understand it better. *sigh*
Lucklaly they're not quite that bad in the cartoon.

Sakura-chan is sooo cute, I couldn't help but pinch her cheeks<3
10 insane facts comics taught us about American history (
http://io9.com/5680091/10-insane-facts-comics-taught-us-about-american-history)
Crysta
11-05-2010, 12:06 AM
Lucklaly they're not quite that bad in the cartoon.

Sakura-chan is sooo cute, I couldn't help but pinch her cheeks<3
10 insane facts comics taught us about American history (
http://io9.com/5680091/10-insane-facts-comics-taught-us-about-american-history)
I've read and watched CCS, its pretty good. But it can be syrupy sweet and chibi cute to the point where ya wanna puke. But its one of the best anime/mangas i have ever seen.
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Oh yes i will note. I just remembered someone did tell me that Clamp was all women. I forgot, so used to men doing comics and manga. But the question you have to ask is, do Japanese women have a fetish for gay men?
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-05-2010, 06:18 AM
I've read and watched CCS, its pretty good. But it can be syrupy sweet and chibi cute to the point where ya wanna puke. But its one of the best anime/mangas i have ever seen.
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Oh yes i will note. I just remembered someone did tell me that Clamp was all women. I forgot, so used to men doing comics and manga. But the question you have to ask is, do Japanese women have a fetish for gay men?
Syrupy sweet useful before or after horror or dark or depressing show or movie to help give perspective on things, no?
Yes. As far as I can tell women now a days really only want gay man. Sister's friends always see everything as huge homo overtones even when not present, whenever seeing a man they almost always want to see him gay out, never want him to be with them for some reason. What's up with that?
matt damon
11-05-2010, 06:28 AM
maybe they got tired of guys saying creepy things, spelled incorrectly of course.
ROKUSHO
11-05-2010, 06:56 AM
only unmarried women like clamp could draw unnatural men.
Penguin
11-05-2010, 06:58 AM
Women like a man who can beat a dead horse
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-05-2010, 07:13 AM
Women like to beat a man like a dead horse
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-06-2010, 06:18 AM
Tanis
11-06-2010, 07:33 AM
Finished up 'Superman - Earth One (2010)', you know...the emo looking one?
It should be called 'Superman Begins'.
Pretty good stuff, rather enjoyed the whole 'he's not the world's biggest boy scout' stuff and the origin story was kind of cool.
Hope they explore this version a little more.
---------------
Also, finally, started reading 'The Walking Dead', after seeing the first episode of the series.
It's REALLY different from the TV show, which is a good thing.
Marceline
11-08-2010, 04:28 PM
But the question you have to ask is, do Japanese women have a fetish for gay men?
I've read that in Japan the target market for yaoi is middle aged housewives? Not sure how accurate that is, though.
There's a lot of variety in Japanese leading men, I think it's just a really different culture in terms of the way people view stuff like that.
I haven't been liking JMS on the main Superman comics (Action Comics has been terrific lately though), but I enjoyed Earth One. It's a different take on the character that doesn't feel inauthentic, and I appreciate that, even though I don't know that someone like me, who loves Supes as he is, is the target audience.
Longshot maybe, but does anyone want to talk about what's going on in the bat books?
matt damon
11-08-2010, 10:14 PM
i wish we read the same comics so we could talk about them :(
sorta related:
^_^
Tanis
11-08-2010, 10:25 PM
I read ALL of 'The Walking Dead' (that's 78 volumes) in one night.
O_o;
Pretty good, if rather fucked up, stuff.
Anyone explain to me this 'V' stuff?
I'm reading 'Teen Titans V2', thinking it was before Teen Titans V3'...but it is and it is not.
W-T-F is going on?
Marceline
11-08-2010, 10:33 PM
It's volumes. When they start renumbering a comic, it becomes V2, V3, etc.
Sometimes they do this after a series has been canceled for a while- this is the case with Teen Titans, and with other comics like X-Factor- and sometimes they do it at the start of a new storyline with an ongoing comic to try and boost sales, since there are plenty of people who will buy a comic just because it's the first issue of something.
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-09-2010, 12:43 AM
Tanis
11-09-2010, 01:22 AM
It's volumes. When they start renumbering a comic, it becomes V2, V3, etc.
Sometimes they do this after a series has been canceled for a while- this is the case with Teen Titans, and with other comics like X-Factor- and sometimes they do it at the start of a new storyline with an ongoing comic to try and boost sales, since there are plenty of people who will buy a comic just because it's the first issue of something.
Well...that's silly.
But, it works, I'm reading though TTv3, wish I could find the Cartoon-Network version.
Marceline
11-09-2010, 01:39 AM
Cartoon Network version is called Teen Titans Go. I have all of it on a disc somewhere. It's a lot of issues but I can start uploading it for you if you'd like.
Tanis
11-09-2010, 02:35 AM
Cartoon Network version is called Teen Titans Go. I have all of it on a disc somewhere. It's a lot of issues but I can start uploading it for you if you'd like.
I can't find them on my usual sites, so if you have them that'd be cool.
I really wish the cartoon had another season or two.
:(
Marceline
11-09-2010, 03:09 AM
Since it's so many comics I'll just continually upload them to this folder, and you can grab them as they come. ^^
Teen Titans Go! (
http://www.mediafire.com/?59qqcy8wopqhh)
Tanis
11-09-2010, 03:15 AM
Since it's so many comics I'll just continually upload them to this folder, and you can grab them as they come. ^^
Teen Titans Go! (
http://www.mediafire.com/?59qqcy8wopqhh)
Cool, that works!
BTW:
Do you share your links on any wares sites?
Cause I'm sure you'd get some traffic if you did.
:D
Marceline
11-09-2010, 07:36 AM
I pretty much only share links if someone mentions they're looking for something. I am happy to help anybody looking for stuff out though, if I can! There are so many old comics that are hard to get a hold of and they deserve to be enjoyed by everyone. ^^ So if people are looking for anything or want recommendations, I am more than happy to share my stuff.
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-09-2010, 07:52 AM
Well I was going to hunt for Boba Fett: Twin Engines of Destruction & Magical Shopping Arcade Abinobashi.
HDHipHop1
11-09-2010, 09:19 PM
Tom, I have Abenobashi on my computer. If you'd like, I can upload them to a file sharing site and PM you the links.
i wish we read the same comics so we could talk about them :(
I think you and I are the only two people in this thread who regularly read X-comics.
Tanis
11-09-2010, 09:57 PM
Anyone know of any decent 'female as the lead' comics that aren't Power Girl, Supergirl, and Wonder Woman?
Marceline
11-09-2010, 10:23 PM
Have you read Greg Rucka's run on Detective Comics? Batwoman with a Renee Montoya Question back-up feature.
I read X-Factor, bsnowman. I've abandoned most of my x-books, though.
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More suggestions for Tanis:
Zatanna, Birds of Prey (both the currently running version and the volume before it), any of the X-23 books Kyle and Yost have written (she has an ongoing now too but it's really badly written), Alan Moore's Promethea (bonus: JH Williams III art), Terra's mini, Peter David penned issues of She-Hulk (I can't stand the character, but they are great), Spider-man Love Mary Jane (more awesome than it sounds), Alias (not about the tv series), Echo, Hack/Slash, Queen and Country, Kathryn Imonen's Hellcat mini, Greg Ruck's Black Widow stuff, Manhunter, the Bulleteer mini (part of Seven Soldiers, which I recommend reading all of. Zatanna mini from this is good too), Ed Brubaker's Catwoman, Fallen Angel, Love and Rockets, Anna Mercury
also: I've heard Spider-girl is pretty amazing
probably will continually edit this as I think of more
MadKalnod
11-10-2010, 12:37 AM
I'd also recommend Paul Dini's Gotham City Sirens and the current Batgirl by (I believe) Bryan Q. Miller from DC. They're pretty entertaining. Also, Fables from DC/Vertigo is an ensemble cast, but many of the most interesting and pivotal characters are women. There's also iZombie from DC/Vertigo, where 3 of the 4 leads are women (they're also a zombie, a ghost, and a vampire, but that's another census).
From Dark Horse, there's Star Wars: Knight Errant, but I don't know it that's ending at issue #5 like it was solicited or becoming an ongoing.
There's also Warren Ellis's Anna Mercury and Freakangels from Avatar Press. Freakangels is another ensemble cast, but there's a pretty even ratio of male and female characters.
Boom! Studios does the FarScape comics picking up where the TV show left off, and the cast is majority female now. Boom! also does a series of 4-parters called The Unknown about a female paranormal investigator.
Radical Publishing offers Shrapnel and Hotwire, both of which have female leads. Artesia is a series of 6-parters from Archaia Studios Press about what its creator likes to call a pagan Joan of Arc.
And while none of the following are current titles, they're worth tracking down in trades or back issues:
Batgirl and Catwoman (the late-90s relaunches of each) from DC.
Aria from Image.
Mystic, Meridian, and Route 666 from CrossGen (These are strongly rumored to be coming back now that Disney, who bought CrossGen's IP, owns Marvel)
matt damon
11-10-2010, 02:52 AM
why is no one suggesting buffy season 8?
edit: freakangels is amazing.
MadKalnod
11-10-2010, 04:23 AM
I haven't read any Buffy. I was never a fan of the series, really. I mean, I liked what I saw, but caught it too infrequently to get a handle on the major ongoing plot threads, and I'm not buying DVD boxed sets now. Hence, I'm not getting the follow-up comic either. I'm not saying it's bad, but it's terra incognita for me.
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-10-2010, 06:24 AM
Tom, I have Abenobashi on my computer. If you'd like, I can upload them to a file sharing site and PM you the links.
Yes! And I have FLCL is you want that.
HDHipHop1
11-10-2010, 06:50 AM
Yes! And I have FLCL is you want that.
Absolutely!:) Is Rapidshare okay or would you prefer another site?
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-10-2010, 06:56 AM
I guess rapidshare is all right. It shouldn't crap things too bad with such a small file.
HDHipHop1
11-10-2010, 07:00 AM
This might sound like a stupid question, but we are talking about the anime right?
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-10-2010, 07:14 AM
This might sound like a stupid question, but we are talking about the anime right?
I want the manga/comic book to Magical Shopping Arcade Abinobashi, I have the anime/cartoon series in my possession.
I can give people the Manga/comic book of FLCL once I upload it. But if you want the anime/cartoon show I can do a quick looksee and find some prospects because the damn thing is out of print and all I got is a bootleg and a VHS recorded from TV.
HDHipHop1
11-10-2010, 07:20 AM
Oh. I'm sorry, but I don't have the Abenobashi manga, just the anime.
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-11-2010, 07:06 AM
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-18-2010, 07:49 AM
I'm surprised ndi hasn't posted this yet.
Green Lantern - Movie Trailers - iTunes (
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/greenlantern/)
Penguin
11-18-2010, 12:37 PM
But if you want the anime/cartoon show I can do a quick looksee and find some prospects because the damn thing is out of print and all I got is a bootleg and a VHS recorded from TV.
I have the animated series but im not uploading it for anyone :D
Tanis
11-18-2010, 04:31 PM
I've gotten several comics as of late.
Been reading Harley Quinn and Wonder Woman V1; talk about...erm...different art style.
Dr Faustus
11-18-2010, 04:50 PM
I have the animated series but im not uploading it for anyone :D
Negative rep.
Tanis
11-18-2010, 05:32 PM
Um....Cartoon World - Index page (
http://forum.cartoon-world.org/)
Seriously, if it's not up there...you can request it and probably have it within a week or two.
Dr Faustus
11-18-2010, 05:40 PM
Thanks Tanis :) I've already sent info to the people that wanted it. Gloating about having it and not sharing it is not what this forum is about.
Now... to check out that link you posted. :D
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-18-2010, 07:15 PM
Um....Cartoon World - Index page (
http://forum.cartoon-world.org/)
Seriously, if it's not up there...you can request it and probably have it within a week or two.
Bookmarking that for later use. It's always good to have those at hand even if you've got a better favorite site it could crash, get closed down, or the links could get deleted and leave you hanging.

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http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/5534218-original.html)
Marceline
11-18-2010, 07:53 PM
I'm surprised ndi hasn't posted this yet.
Green Lantern - Movie Trailers - iTunes (
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/greenlantern/)
I am still trying to decide how I feel about it! I'm psyched for Kilowog, I'm SUPER psyched that Sinestro is left handed, but I'm iffy on the look of the suits and I was honestly shocked at how bad Blake Lively's acting was. I'm still going to see it no matter what, but I have not figured out the appropriate level of excitement I should have.
also: squeed so hard at the end of the trailer
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http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/5534218-original.html)
Dick survived a bullet to the skull, he'll survive this~
Tanis
11-18-2010, 10:27 PM
Bookmarking that for later use. It's always good to have those at hand even if you've got a better favorite site it could crash, get closed down, or the links could get deleted and leave you hanging.

(
http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/5534218-original.html)
Wait...is that blue paint on Batman?
HOLY CRAP!
BATMAN SHMOO-SMOO'd NIGHTWING TO DEATH!
D:
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-19-2010, 07:16 AM
Wait...is that blue paint on Batman?
HOLY CRAP!
BATMAN SHMOO-SMOO'd NIGHTWING TO DEATH!
D:
That was a custom paint job on a grey & blue Batman. His kid got a hold of it and had some fun with the crotch.
krissy
11-21-2010, 03:16 AM
why is no one suggesting buffy season 8?
edit: freakangels is amazing.
freakangels is the best online comic. friggin love warren ellis. i'm a few months behind tho so no spoilers >:{
i was gonna collect buffy but i got to the 4th book and havent' really had the urge to buy more...
Marceline
11-21-2010, 03:36 AM
I think stopping with Buffy Season 8 is a good call. While I really enjoyed it up to a point, it has gotten to be stunningly bad.
matt damon
11-21-2010, 03:39 AM
it's gotten really confusing.
Penguin
11-22-2010, 12:56 AM
Negative rep.
Durrrrrr
I'm from Australia btw
Tom Toonami Tunes
11-22-2010, 06:47 AM
Durrrrrr
I'm from Australia btw
Don't be silly, some place cold isn't in Australia.
krissy
12-02-2010, 06:16 PM
there's a remodel challenge on warren ellis' message board again
this time, it is
1977. London. You have been tasked with producing the poster for Malcolm McLaren's JUSTICE LEAGUE film.
What does that look like?
check out this piece from Annie Wu!
anyway the rest of the thread has a dissapointing amount of attempts to put sid vicious in the picture somehow
Whitechapel - NO FUTURE REMAKE/REMODEL: Malcolm McLaren's JUSTICE LEAGUE (
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9222&page=1)
Tom Toonami Tunes
12-03-2010, 06:44 PM
there's a remodel challenge on warren ellis' message board again
this time, it is
1977. London. You have been tasked with producing the poster for Malcolm McLaren's JUSTICE LEAGUE film.
What does that look like?
check out this piece from Annie Wu!
anyway the rest of the thread has a dissapointing amount of attempts to put sid vicious in the picture somehow
Whitechapel - NO FUTURE REMAKE/REMODEL: Malcolm McLaren's JUSTICE LEAGUE (
http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9222&page=1)
I like Aquaman throwing up but Batman should have has those big studded leather bracers.
Marceline
12-03-2010, 10:56 PM
That is amazing, thanks for sharing. Wonder Woman is my favorite. With Tom on Batsy!
Tom Toonami Tunes
12-04-2010, 07:17 AM
Did everyone get the FLCL manga? I know a few of you wanted it and I posted in STS but I don't know if anyome saw it there.
krissy
12-04-2010, 07:26 AM
what did you all think of it? i remember reading the first part a few years ago and it just didn't grab me the same way the show did.
Tom Toonami Tunes
12-04-2010, 07:41 AM
what did you all think of it? i remember reading the first part a few years ago and it just didn't grab me the same way the show did.
I didn't like it.
It was a mess but not like the show in a fun way and all the little nuances are either gone or downsized. On top of that it's real hard to tell who's speaking, what place the scene is meant to be in, what time frame i.e. flashback/foreshadowing/present, and the layout is confusing and muddy. And as for he characters they've lost most of there good but real messed up ness are are pretty horrable people at times.
The art style is nice and there area few useful pages and 2 page spreads for wallpapers and avatars and stuff.
HDHipHop1
01-05-2011, 07:43 AM
Marvel Entertainment Promotes Axel Alonso to Editor-in-Chief | Marvel Heroes | Comic News | News | Marvel.com (
http://marvel.com/news/story/14932/marvel_entertainment_promotes_axel_alonso_to_edito r-in-chief)
ROKUSHO
01-05-2011, 07:53 AM
i.... uh... bought the first volume of the 2 part dick tracy comic, with cassette included.
is this bad?
Marceline
01-06-2011, 06:32 AM
Anybody want to talk about Marvel getting a new EIC?
Tom Toonami Tunes
01-06-2011, 06:37 AM
Anybody want to talk about Marvel getting a new EIC?
I guess it's better than that other guy. It's not going to ruin Marvel but I wouldn't hope for total improvement that'd herald in a golden age of comic books.
HDHipHop1
01-06-2011, 06:42 AM
I guess it's better than that other guy. It's not going to ruin Marvel but I wouldn't hope for total improvement that'd herald in a golden age of comic books.
I doubt that. We might see some improvements, but I'm not holding my breath.
Marceline
01-06-2011, 06:52 AM
Well, I think Quesada was a pretty terrible editor in chief. He thought about what he wanted books to be like and not about what was best for the characters, he was really antagonistic towards readers, especially over OMD, and he encouraged Marvel/DC rivalry. We still probably won't be able to get DC/Marvel crossovers again until he's gone from the company, but just having less fanwars encouragement in the media will be nice.
Axel Alonso wouldn't have been my first choice, especially since I think he'll probably keep OMD stuff around, but he's worked as an editor on some pretty terrific books with writers I really respect, so I think he has a lot of promise.
HDHipHop1
01-06-2011, 06:59 AM
............but he's worked as an editor on some pretty terrific books with writers I really respect, so I think he has a lot of promise.
What books and writers are you referrig to? I know Alonso was editor to many X-books, so are you possibly speaking of Morrison's New X-Men?
Marceline
01-06-2011, 07:39 AM
He was an editor for New X-Men. He's been an editor for Grant Morrison a ton of times, actually, including on one of my favorite comic books of all time, Flex Mentallo. He's also worked with Joss Whedon, Warren Ellis, Kyle and Yost, and Peter David, just to name a few. Before he went to Marvel he was an editor with Vertigo and I hope that influences his reign as Marvel's editor.
Of course, he also was an editor on One More Day. ;)
krissy
01-10-2011, 06:45 PM
top 50 comic book covers of 2010?
The 50 best covers of 2010 | Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources – Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment (
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/01/the-50-best-covers-of-2010/)
bigbosslydon
01-11-2011, 06:19 PM
top 50 comic book covers of 2010?
The 50 best covers of 2010 | Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources – Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment (
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/01/the-50-best-covers-of-2010/)
I'm surprised the cover for Batman Inc. didn't get in there, always love that one.
Plus the Larfleeze Christmas cover was hilarious.
Marceline
01-11-2011, 08:11 PM
Tom Toonami Tunes
01-11-2011, 10:13 PM
Anyone here of Mc2 A Critical Mass of Comics by British Artists?
My sister got a copy for her friend and is having me read through it first.
Tom Toonami Tunes
01-23-2011, 06:24 PM
Wonder Woman!
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48193)
HDHipHop1
01-23-2011, 06:42 PM
This looks like the character select screen for Street Fighter III: Third Strike.
bigbosslydon
01-23-2011, 09:31 PM
Wonder Woman!
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48193)
Yeah, this should be interesting. I really enjoy IGN's article on who should play her.
Who Should Play Wonder Woman? - TV Feature at IGN (
http://tv.ign.com/articles/112/1125373p1.html)
I think out of those that Olivia Wilde or Odette Yustman would do a pretty great job as Wonder Woman.
Marceline
01-23-2011, 09:45 PM
Olivia Wilde is gorgeous but she's too thin to play Diana. She's an amazon, after all!
If only they could go back in time to the 90's and cast Lucy Lawless ;)
bigbosslydon
01-23-2011, 09:54 PM
Olivia Wilde is gorgeous but she's too thin to play Diana. She's an amazon, after all!
If only they could go back in time to the 90's and cast Lucy Lawless ;)
Yeah I was thinking that too with the body type. Perhaps they'll do the current Wonder Woman with Superboy's old costume.
And Lucy Lawless I've heard many people say, I even theorized that myself if it were still the 90s. That would have been great.
Tom Toonami Tunes
01-24-2011, 05:31 AM
Olivia Wilde is gorgeous but she's too thin to play Diana. She's an amazon, after all!
If only they could go back in time to the 90's and cast Lucy Lawless ;)
Maybe Lucy could play her in a Dark Knight Returns-like Wonder Women multi episode story arch?
Tom Toonami Tunes
01-25-2011, 06:13 AM
Wizard Magazine Is Dead - Topless Robot (
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/01/wizard_magazine_is_dead.php)
Wizard Magazine is also dead.
Tanis
01-25-2011, 06:54 AM
Most the them don't 'work' for me.
However given how the plot is going...meh.
krissy
01-25-2011, 11:23 PM
Marceline
01-26-2011, 02:40 AM
A bunch of the offerings for this year's Free Comic Book Day have been announced!
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6328/stk435497.jpghttp://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6835/stk435693.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4227/stk434995.jpghttp://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4879/stk435466.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1010/stk435499.jpghttp://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5994/stk435692.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1376/stk435475.jpghttp://img830.imageshack.us/img830/4558/stk434692.jpg
And this is this year's toy. I didn't take the toy last year because I figured it'd just sit around and I wanted to save stuff for people who didn't wait outside the comic store's doors, but I might grab this one!

Tom Toonami Tunes
01-26-2011, 06:25 AM
I'm getting the Tick and Adam We. No body messes with Adam We!
I'll see if I want the toy if it ever finishes loading.
krissy
01-26-2011, 07:12 AM
last year we got a lantern ring
purple i think it was
no idea where it is now
anyway the spider and young justice look like definite grabs!
Marceline
01-26-2011, 07:15 AM
Last year my store had a Warmachine Heroclix, I would've loved a lantern ring. ; ; They let me take a ton of comics though, so it's cool!
I'm really excited. ^^ Free Comics Day is one of my favorite days of the year!
Tom Toonami Tunes
01-26-2011, 07:22 AM
Forget Tick I'm getting Ong the OngBender.
Marceline
01-30-2011, 07:45 PM
BREAKING: Henry Cavill Lands Superman; Macho British Actor To Play American Icon; Past Contender For Batman & James Bond – Deadline.com (
http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/henry-cavill-chosen-as-new-superman/#more-101860)
Does anyone know of anything he's done with an American accent? I've only seen him in some episodes of the Tudors.
Looks right for the part though.
Tom Toonami Tunes
01-31-2011, 06:21 PM
The adventures of Nabil Fawzi, the Arabic Superman (
http://io9.com/5747813/the-adventures-of-nabil-fawzi-the-arabic-superman)
I think you'd like this.
HDHipHop1
01-31-2011, 09:21 PM
There is also a Turkish Spider-Man. :)
Marceline
01-31-2011, 10:11 PM
And Japanese Spider-man!

HDHipHop1
01-31-2011, 10:15 PM
And Japanese Spider-man!
Ah yes. Toku-Spider-Man. And his huge mecha.

Dr Faustus
01-31-2011, 10:32 PM
They did a manga version of spider-man as well. And then they translated it and ported it over here. I've read it, it was okay. :D

Tom Toonami Tunes
02-01-2011, 06:24 AM
And Japanese Spider-man!
That's what the reboot should have been about. I want J.K. Simmons dressed up as Rita Repulsa yelling "Spider-Man gives me such a headache!"
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-03-2011, 07:26 AM
Ain't It Cool News: The best in movie, TV, DVD, and comic book news. (
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48321)
Marceline
02-04-2011, 06:10 AM
Hugh Jackman seems like good people.
DUSTIN NGUYEN, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO KEEP DOING SUCH AWESOME COVERS FOR A COMIC I DON'T LIKE ; ;
HDHipHop1
02-04-2011, 06:28 AM
You could lower your standards and like the comics maybe. LOL
matt damon
02-04-2011, 07:52 AM
Don't talk to Mandi that way. If she doesn't like it, then it's probably pretty bad, especially considering it's a bat title
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-04-2011, 07:53 AM
HDHipHop1
02-04-2011, 08:03 AM
Don't talk to Mandi that way. If she doesn't like it, then it's probably pretty bad, especially considering it's a bat title
It's a nice thing that you'll stick up for Mandi. Hell, it's a great thing, but I said that in jest you fool. And if she is offended, Mandi is most certainly outspoken enough to come to her own defense.
krissy
02-04-2011, 08:42 PM
that's it
ban him
ps!!!! I rented Planetary 1 and 2 from the library today and the circulation desk lady was like 'these are classic, i was following them as they were getting released. nice!'
warmed my heart
HDHipHop1
02-04-2011, 09:03 PM
Don't you think that's a little severe?
Or is saying something you personally don't like grounds for banning?
krissy
02-04-2011, 09:28 PM
yeah i'm just jokin
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HDHipHop1
02-04-2011, 09:33 PM
That's totally a stacked battle.
Batman'll just sick Morgan Freeman on Galactus.
matt damon
02-05-2011, 12:28 AM
jean would win
Marceline
02-05-2011, 02:01 AM
ps!!!! I rented Planetary 1 and 2 from the library today and the circulation desk lady was like 'these are classic, i was following them as they were getting released. nice!'
warmed my heart
Planetary is so so good ^___^ Hope you like it!
I feel bad for anyone who followed Planetary as it came out because the delays were so insane ; ;
also you're all banned twice
HDHipHop1
02-05-2011, 06:31 AM
Planetary is so so good ^___^ Hope you like it!
I feel bad for anyone who followed Planetary as it came out because the delays were so insane ; ;
also you're all banned twice
I see you shed no tears over twice banning us all. :D
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-05-2011, 06:38 AM
that's it
ban him
ps!!!! I rented Planetary 1 and 2 from the library today and the circulation desk lady was like 'these are classic, i was following them as they were getting released. nice!'
warmed my heart
Was she a naughty librarian?
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That's totally a stacked battle.
Batman'll just sick Morgan Freeman on Galactus.
I like how Galactus looks like he's an old guy thinking 'bout somethin' while chewing food.
Marceline
02-09-2011, 03:19 AM
Cobie Smulders is going to be Maria Hill in the Avengers
Cobie Smulders Confirmed for The Avengers | Superhero Hype (
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/125790-cobie-smulders-confirmed-for-the-avengers)
I wanted her to be Lois Lane ; ;
matt damon
02-09-2011, 03:28 AM
who's maria hill?
Marceline
02-09-2011, 03:34 AM
I thought you'd read Civil War! =p
She's the former director of SHIELD.
matt damon
02-09-2011, 03:43 AM
i have it downloaded but i still haven't gotten around to it.
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is she as cool as that lady who directs S.W.O.R.D?
Tanis
02-09-2011, 03:46 AM
'MEH'...don't care.
Marceline
02-09-2011, 03:46 AM
I don't really like her, tbh.
Plus Abigail Brand has green hair so she has the advantage automatically.
matt damon
02-09-2011, 03:53 AM
if this was facebook i would like that
HDHipHop1
02-09-2011, 08:39 AM
But it's not.
matt damon
02-09-2011, 08:48 AM
...
HDHipHop1
02-09-2011, 09:24 AM
Just being disagreeable
matt damon
02-10-2011, 07:24 AM
i haven't had any big comics in two weeks :( next week better be full of x-men-y goodness, and generation hope.
HDHipHop1
02-10-2011, 07:29 AM
This week had X-Factor and a massive Wolverine comic book iirc.
matt damon
02-10-2011, 07:31 AM
fuck wolverine. he sucks balls.
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i read x-factor though. but that's just one comic! and doesn't deal with hope summers. I NEED THAT PLOT POINT ADVANCED NOW MARVEL!! GIVE ME MY JEAN BACK SOON!
HDHipHop1
02-10-2011, 07:56 AM
fuck wolverine. he sucks balls.
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i read x-factor though. but that's just one comic! and doesn't deal with hope summers. I NEED THAT PLOT POINT ADVANCED NOW MARVEL!! GIVE ME MY JEAN BACK SOON!
Point #1: I agree. Somewhat. Wolverine gets WAY too much exposure in the Marvel universe. Two Avengers books, his own book, and just about every X-book on the racks. Too fucking much. His character has been explored enough as is and frankly Claremont had the right idea.
Point #2: Your Jean? If I might recall, she's died so her marriage has been annulled and her old ball-and-chain is now shacking up w/ an ex-stripper. She's a free woman buddy and isn't yours. :)
matt damon
02-10-2011, 08:01 AM
OMG THANK YOU! killing him off was the best thing ever.
also, nope, she's mine. now and forever.
also also, fuck that skank ass whore slut bitch emma frost. i hope she rots.
Someone said Fuck Wolverine.
THERE WILL BE BLOOD.
HDHipHop1
02-10-2011, 08:55 AM
krissy
02-10-2011, 07:35 PM
haha wolverine you manwhore
matt damon
02-10-2011, 11:41 PM
moar like wolverine, you're so awful.
bigbosslydon
02-17-2011, 02:53 AM
Adrianne Palicki is going to the Wonder Woman.
Adrianne Palicki to Play Wonder Woman in NBC Pilot - The Hollywood Reporter (
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/adrianne-palicki-play-wonder-woman-100465)
Tanis
02-17-2011, 03:27 AM
Huh....eh.
krissy
02-18-2011, 04:35 AM
me as well
HDHipHop1
02-18-2011, 04:38 AM
:D
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
02-18-2011, 04:39 AM
i love The Killing Joke. I laughed for well over half-an-hour when i first read it.
i had tears. :}
HDHipHop1
02-18-2011, 04:44 AM
Didn't Batgirl get stuffed in the fridge so to speak in The Killing Joke?
tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
02-18-2011, 04:51 AM
ooooooooooh right! lemme check my hardcover copy....
O_O pages are still ever so crisp as the day I bought it!! (over a year ago)
Joker shoots her, through-and-through of the spine, clothes removed, pics taken and who knows what else. maybe "stuffed".
resgame
02-18-2011, 05:14 AM
I have a huge pile or un-opened Spawn comics. The graphics where always great looking. I'm trying to sell them. :)
HDHipHop1
02-18-2011, 05:16 AM
I have a huge pile or un-opened Spawn comics. The graphics where always great looking. I'm trying to sell them. :)
Good man/woman.
I have a huge pile
See a doctor. He will slam a needle into that bad boy, you will scream like a woman, pass out, and when you wake up your wallet will be lighter.
Or so I was told.
Marceline
02-18-2011, 05:19 AM
Didn't Batgirl get stuffed in the fridge so to speak in The Killing Joke?
You could make an argument for it, but she's become miles better as a character post-Killing Joke, so I wouldn't say that.
HDHipHop1
02-18-2011, 05:22 AM
See a doctor. He will slam a needle into that bad boy, you will scream like a woman, pass out, and when you wake up your wallet will be lighter.
Or so I was told.
Dude, most people wouldn't have enough cash to pay for a doctor's appointment on their person.
Unless........
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You could make an argument for it, but she's become miles better as a character post-Killing Joke, so I wouldn't say that.
But I'd have to be Batshit insane to argue with you.
Marceline
02-18-2011, 05:32 AM
But I'd have to be Batshit insane to argue with you.
Haha! Well, playing devil's advocate, I could say that she would've become better written with or without being shot, since she's definitely written better in anything that flashes back to her time as Batgirl.
But I think Oracle's such a unique and interesting character, and she adds so much to the Batbooks as a whole, even if writers sometimes make me facepalm with the way they handle hacking stuff. Current Batgirl usually doesn't get much to do outside her own book, Oracle regularly appears in most of the Bat titles and in several other DC titles. She became her own hero and not a sidekick, the same way that Nightwing did. :)
HDHipHop1
02-18-2011, 05:34 AM
But I think Oracle's such a unique and interesting character, and she adds so much to the Batbooks as a whole, even if writers sometimes make me facepalm with the way they handle hacking stuff.
A lot of writers seem to fudge up how real computer hacking is done.
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-18-2011, 07:05 AM
A lot of writers seem to fudge up how real computer hacking is done.
Like how in Die Hard 4 they hacked the computers to blow up when turned on!
HDHipHop1
02-18-2011, 07:06 AM
Like how in Die Hard 4 they hacked the computers to blow up when turned on!
This.
Hello Tom
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-19-2011, 06:57 AM
HDHipHop1
02-19-2011, 07:27 AM

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http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/6543474-original.html)
Tony has a Bender.
He also seems to have Iron Man armors from multiple continuities.
Plus he has an Iron Man armor that looks like a Transformer.
krissy
02-19-2011, 04:56 PM
went to library yesterday to get the planetary vol 3 and 4 packages
they were rented out until the 30th
SO I BURNT THE PLACE DOWN
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i want to buy all of it anyway but no immediate gratification anymore :(
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-19-2011, 06:21 PM
went to library yesterday to get the planetary vol 3 and 4 packages
they were rented out until the 30th
SO I BURNT THE PLACE DOWN
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i want to buy all of it anyway but no immediate gratification anymore :(
But February only goes up to 28 :/
krissy
02-19-2011, 08:46 PM
oh, 11th of march
i am dyslexic when enraged
HDHipHop1
02-20-2011, 01:55 AM
went to library yesterday to get the planetary vol 3 and 4 packages
they were rented out until the 30th
SO I BURNT THE PLACE DOWN
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i want to buy all of it anyway but no immediate gratification anymore :(
Don't be so modest riotmedic.
We all know you've made the unfortunate bastard who rented Planetary disappear as well.
Tanis
02-20-2011, 02:09 AM
The internet, making the library obsolete.
krissy
02-20-2011, 06:46 AM
amazoned that shiz
like a boss
edit: VVV son of a bitch i can't post anymore or i'll destroy the universe
edit2: OH NO I ALREADY DID SOMEWHERE ELSE
SPIDEEEEYYY
HDHipHop1
02-20-2011, 06:49 AM
riotmedic's pre-Feb. 19,2011 @ 11:46 P.M. post count = mainstream Marvel universe
Tanis
02-20-2011, 07:17 AM
And the fact I don't know this somehow makes me feel better about myself...
HDHipHop1
02-20-2011, 07:18 AM
And the fact I don't know this somehow makes me feel better about myself...
Do you have a problem or something?
krissy
02-20-2011, 07:19 AM
Earth-616 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth-616)
Tanis
02-20-2011, 07:22 AM
Do you have a problem or something?
Yeah, I'm glad I'm not as much of a dork as I think I am...
:P
HDHipHop1
02-20-2011, 07:26 AM
Yeah, I'm glad I'm not as much of a dork as I think I am...
:P
No, it seems like you have a problem with me. If that's the case then, let it go. Move on.
Tanis
02-20-2011, 07:55 AM
No, it seems like you have a problem with me. If that's the case then, let it go. Move on.

Tom Toonami Tunes
02-20-2011, 09:25 PM
HDHipHop1
02-20-2011, 09:32 PM
Does this mean Batman gets his back broken?
Will Bane be the main villain of The Dark Knight Rises?
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-20-2011, 09:40 PM
Does this mean Batman gets his back broken?
Will Bane be the main villain of The Dark Knight Rises?
Bane & Catwoman. unknown if the back thing will be in it or not though it would be sad if they skipped over it.
Marceline
02-20-2011, 09:43 PM
If they do that story, I want some Lady Shiva!
Dr Faustus
02-20-2011, 10:10 PM
Does this mean Batman gets his back broken?
I liked Knightfall. It went on for ages.
Marceline
02-20-2011, 10:15 PM
I don't like Azrael. He's always felt very Electric Superman to me.
Dr Faustus
02-20-2011, 10:23 PM
I got the first 2 collected editions and they are huge but I never got the aftermath episodes. :sad:
Tanis
02-20-2011, 11:33 PM
Is that official or some fan made shit?
Also:
I'd love to see the ending of the movie be Bruce Wayne in the Batcave in a wheelchair.
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-21-2011, 06:15 AM
I was going through IMDB filling out my movie list and looking some actors up and ran across the Black Panther cartoon.
YouTube - Black Panther Animated Intro (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jogj0_8rw48)
Jill Scott played Storm!
I guess it got canned.
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Is that official or some fan made shit?
Also:
I'd love to see the ending of the movie be Bruce Wayne in the batcave in a wheelchair.
Fan art. It'd be funny if that happens and the movie is called The Dark Knight Rises.
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-22-2011, 11:56 PM
Dwayne McDuffie has died of unknown causes. :'(
RIP Dwayne McDuffie*|*The Beat (
http://www.comicsbeat.com/2011/02/22/rip-dwayne-mcduffie/)
I'll have to watch the vid later, I have too much noise going on right now.
HDHipHop1
02-23-2011, 12:39 AM
I didn't even know who Dwayne McDuffie was, or that he was black.
This is unfortunate. :(
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-23-2011, 01:01 AM
HDHipHop1
02-23-2011, 02:01 AM
Marceline
02-23-2011, 02:08 AM
Dwayne McDuffie has died of unknown causes. :'(
RIP Dwayne McDuffie*|*The Beat (
http://www.comicsbeat.com/2011/02/22/rip-dwayne-mcduffie/)
I'll have to watch the vid later, I have too much noise going on right now.
Oh my god :( Genuinely shocked at this, this is horrible news. Really respected him and his work a lot, especially for Static Shock and his work on the Justice League animated series. He had a terrific sense of humor too. RIP. Huge loss for the comics world.
Tom Toonami Tunes
02-23-2011, 07:51 AM
matt damon
02-23-2011, 07:55 AM
I didn't even know who Dwayne McDuffie was, or that he was black.
This is unfortunate. :(
just because he was black?
Tanis
02-23-2011, 07:55 AM
HAHAHA!
Marceline
02-23-2011, 09:25 PM

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http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/6602204-original.html)
I posted that on my Facebook last night!
He really was an awesome guy and created some great stuff ; ; He was pretty young too, only 49.
Tom Toonami Tunes
03-16-2011, 05:24 PM
Batman and Scooby-Doo are teaming up for the first time since the early 1970s, in a bizarre episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold airing April 1. And here's our first glimpse!
The crossover airs as part of a special episode called "Batman's Strangest Cases," in which the all-powerful Bat-Mite (Paul Reubens) takes us through some weird alternate realities. Including the Scooby-Doo crossover, which is done in the style of early 1970s Hanna-Barbera animation. And an old Mad Magazine spoof from the 1960s.
io9. We come from the future. (
http://io9.com/#!5781881/first-look-at-the-batman-crossover-weve-all-been-waiting-for)
omfgkevin
03-17-2011, 03:26 AM
I posted that on my Facebook last night!
He really was an awesome guy and created some great stuff ; ; He was pretty young too, only 49.
Lol that made me rofl so much :)
Black guy on skateboard
Black guy on skateboard
Black guy on skateboard
although I think putting up negro seems a bit racist isn't it? just like saying nigger or something if you're *not black*
EDIT:
So... HOW ABOUT SOME XMEN? (Since I don't read DC comics and know little about Batman)
Reading the Uncanny X-Men right now, just got into comics around a month ago :P
Marceline
03-17-2011, 03:38 AM
The crossover airs as part of a special episode called "Batman's Strangest Cases," in which the all-powerful Bat-Mite (Paul Reubens) takes us through some weird alternate realities. Including the Scooby-Doo crossover, which is done in the style of early 1970s Hanna-Barbera animation. And an old Mad Magazine spoof from the 1960s.
This sounds pretty promising! Bat-Mite has been terrific on Brave and the Bold in the past.
although I think putting up negro seems a bit racist isn't it? just like saying nigger or something if you're *not black*
Dwayne McDuffie was black.
Tom Toonami Tunes
03-17-2011, 05:46 AM

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http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/6859470-original.html)
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Bruce Timm Asuka & Rei.

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http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/6859465-original.html)

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http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/6859680-original.html)

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http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/6859681-original.html)
I really like the Asuka, he got her down rather well. And while Rei is good too there's just a little something off about her. Maybe the lips are a bit big for her or something.
Kovaelin
03-17-2011, 07:12 AM
Dark Horse to publish Avatar: The Last Airbender comics | Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources – Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment (
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/02/dark-horse-to-publish-avatar-books/) I hope I can get a copy on Free Comic Book Day.
Tanis
03-17-2011, 07:20 AM
So NOW 'we will know' what happened to Zoku's mother?
O_o
Tom Toonami Tunes
03-17-2011, 07:29 AM
God dammit you can't just dangle that little major loose plot in front of us then make the next one with everyone dead or super old. There's no suspense or thrill in the lives of Aang Gaang in doing it that away. At least they aren't honkies.
matt damon
03-17-2011, 07:56 AM
i've seen people mention the mother before. i stopped watching the show so i did i miss them say something about her?
Tanis
03-17-2011, 11:48 AM
i've seen people mention the mother before. i stopped watching the show so i did i miss them say something about her?
Nope.
One of the last scenes in the series is Zuko asking his dad were is mom is...after, earlier, he tells him that his mom is alive.
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