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Ubernoob
02-07-2007, 01:01 AM
I had a small question :)

I just got back from Fran's village and my next boss in Tiamat

Bacsh 24
Ashe 21
Fran 21
Vaan 20
Balthier 20
Pen. 14

I'm not sure if my character's levels are high enough to beat Elderwirm and Tiamat.

All of my characters have their level 1 quickenings and Ashe has her first summon.

forevercloud
02-07-2007, 03:06 AM
Well, elderwyrm is a tough boss. He throws lots of status effects at you. My guess is the fight can be done at that level, I was a little higher though definitely. My main party was about 32 if I remember correctly. You're going to need to set up gambits to esuna, if you have it?, or remedies and other such items. Also, get handkerchiefs, they are important in this fight as Elderwyrm likes to use oil on you. Tiamat I personally thought was pretty easy, atleast compared to elderwyrm. If you can handle Elderwyrm Tiamat will be no problem. There's a save crystal immediately before Elderwyrm so if you get in the fight and die quickly, then you can leave and level up your party.

Agent0042
02-07-2007, 03:48 AM
You can't fight Elder Wyrm before Tiamat --- remember, barriers blocking your path because you don't have Lente's Tear.

forevercloud
02-07-2007, 03:58 AM
Oh right, I forgot the order of that, it's been a while.

the guy watching you
02-07-2007, 08:48 AM
do i have to beat the seer mark in order to unlock the behemothking mark?

and omega>yiazmat?

DeathShining
02-07-2007, 11:40 AM
Im not sure about seer and behemothking, but you have to at least accept the Yiazmat hunt to make OmegaMarkXII active.

forevercloud
02-07-2007, 01:11 PM
About the Behemoth King And Seer Mark, the answer is no. You can do Behemoth King first of The Seer. I did Behemoth King before I even accepted the Seer. To get the Behemoth King to show up you need to clear both maps in the Feywood outside of Giruvegan, but I know that's been discussed thoroughly in here already.

Agent0042
02-07-2007, 05:28 PM
Hey, for those who are after a Ribbon, I got one in what I'm pretty sure was just a random treasure chest in the Abyssal in the Pharos and I didn't even have Diamond Armlet equipped. Really helped against the Shadowseer.

Revaninja
02-07-2007, 05:39 PM
On the second Level right? If so I have heard about that one.

Agent0042
02-07-2007, 05:44 PM
No, on the Abyssal level.

Revaninja
02-07-2007, 06:10 PM
The third level then
Penumbra-first
Umbra-second
Abyssal-Third
Just to clear things up

Agent0042
02-07-2007, 07:30 PM
Right. Third level, Abyssal. A random chest as far as I could tell, though I could be wrong.

Ubernoob
02-07-2007, 10:11 PM
Well, elderwyrm is a tough boss. He throws lots of status effects at you. My guess is the fight can be done at that level, I was a little higher though definitely. My main party was about 32 if I remember correctly. You're going to need to set up gambits to esuna, if you have it?, or remedies and other such items. Also, get handkerchiefs, they are important in this fight as Elderwyrm likes to use oil on you. Tiamat I personally thought was pretty easy, atleast compared to elderwyrm. If you can handle Elderwyrm Tiamat will be no problem. There's a save crystal immediately before Elderwyrm so if you get in the fight and die quickly, then you can leave and level up your party.

Thanks to the both of you :)

I've got Esuna for 3 of my characters and alot of Hankerchiefs and Phoenix Down.
I'm going to attempt to get through this and I'll tell you how I do

thanks again :)

kotlet
02-07-2007, 11:30 PM
hey im on mjern quest i got vaan lv 32 fran lv 31 and basche lv 32 im wndering where can i meet this mjern or what eva it is .. plz help where i can find it/her.... thx

forevercloud
02-08-2007, 01:28 AM
I'm pretty sure ribbon is supposed to be found in Abyssal. I'm not positive on that one, and don't know if it can be gotten more than once.

As for you, Kotlet, if you're first entering Golmore Jungle than you must go to the Eruyt village. The home of the Viera. You get there by approaching the northern magickal barrier in the Golmore Jungle. Now if you were already there and are searching for her you must exit the Jungle in the direction of Ozmone Plain. Two guards will be there, you must help them out and give them a potion and they will let you borrow the chocobo. You then ride the Chocobo to the immediate left upon reentering the Ozmone Plain. This will take you down the secret chocobo path towards Henne Mines. You must then navigate your way through Henne Mines. There are faqs about how to get through here, it's nothing too difficult. Once you make it through, you meet up with Mjrn in a somewhat altered state of being. You'll see when you get there, be ready for a fight there against Tiamat though.

kotlet
02-08-2007, 04:38 AM
thx bro

Syn_904
02-10-2007, 01:01 PM
Does FFXII have a world map like 7, 8 & 9?

Hated how it was taken out of 10

Egg
02-10-2007, 02:38 PM
The Undying.

I can survive his massive blows but he has no god damn health bar!

What the fuck do I do? x(

Egg
02-10-2007, 02:39 PM
Does FFXII have a world map like 7, 8 & 9?

Hated how it was taken out of 10

It does you can access it by pressing triangle and then it should be towards the bottom of the list.

Syn_904
02-10-2007, 02:55 PM
It does you can access it by pressing triangle and then it should be towards the bottom of the list.

I don't mean just viewing it, i meant being able to actually run around the world instead of just selecting what destination you what to travel to from a list like on FFX :)

BeneHaElohim
02-10-2007, 04:04 PM
No

Egg
02-10-2007, 05:34 PM
Does anyone know how to beat Vayne after he combines with Venat?
Known as "The Undying"
He doesn't have a health bar. x_O

Agent0042
02-10-2007, 06:18 PM
Just fight him like you would any other opponent. Just because he doesn't have a health bar doesn't mean he's invincible. Just keep hacking away.

tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 10:43 PM
is final fanstasy VII is a fun game to play?

FF 7 is the best game EVER

tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 11:27 PM
whoever, i really need some tips on fighting ultima,I just got done fighting and if i would of attacked one more time she would have died,any ideas

Syn_904
02-11-2007, 12:09 AM
No

Shame. Was a good way of adding secrets and extras.

tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 12:29 AM
never mind about the Ultima buisness, i beat her

Agent0042
02-11-2007, 01:20 AM
FF 7 is the best game EVER
LOL. I wouldn't recommend saying that anywhere else on here unless you want some serious flaming.

Regarding your question in the Forum Charter thread, yes, there is a higher rank than Knight of the Round. I'm pretty sure the details on that have been mentioned in this thread, if you read over it.


Edit --- Okay, simple yes/no question --- is it possible to break HP / damage limit for characters (not counting espers) in this game. By break limit, I mean attack / HP greater than 9,999.

tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 05:19 AM
i should know soon with the bubble belt, i have like 9000 HP with it so it shouldnt take long to find out
(sorry but this isnt a yes or no awnsere

Neg
02-11-2007, 07:12 AM
Just FYI, for those seeking Death Powder for their Ultima Blade, you can chain Bogeys in Zertinan. You don't have to poach them.

I just LOVE IT when strategy guides are wrong >:O

Hynad
02-11-2007, 08:35 AM
Edit --- Okay, simple yes/no question --- is it possible to break HP / damage limit for characters (not counting espers) in this game. By break limit, I mean attack / HP greater than 9,999.

Yes, it is possible to break the HP limit. But the game wont display a number higher than 9999. If your HP is 5700 and you equip a bubble belt or cast bubble on you, You'll end up having 11400 HP. You'll notice it when your character gets hit by 1000 and your HP still displays a 9999.

Agent0042
02-11-2007, 08:35 AM
I noticed that the second Bestiary page for that monster does mention Death Powder, so that makes sense.


Hynad --- fascinating. I do have one character now that has enough HP to have over 9,999 with Bubble, but because it's only a little over, I didn't notice that. That's weird that it doesn't display properly --- in both X and X-2 you can break the HP limit and it will properly show.

tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 03:31 PM
AGENT---yeah ff 10 was cool for that, i got 99999 HP there, but sadly, we let my brothers friend borrow it last christmas and i havent seen it since

i found a letter in the henna mines that said a miner hid his treasure at the "tip of the four", any ideas on what this means?

Neg
02-11-2007, 06:02 PM
Look at the map for Henne and find an area that looks like a 4, roughly. I believe it is called the Special Charter Shaft or is near it. Check the map to be sure. Search that area for his stash, which is 3 Bacchus's Wines and 2 Megalixers.

forevercloud
02-11-2007, 06:06 PM
Actually, if you have broken the hp limit and you select one of your characters it will display it out of 9999. Such as 12,500/9999. And you may also notice it when casting arise on somebody equipped with a bubble belt.

tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 08:42 PM
Look at the map for Henne and find an area that looks like a 4, roughly. I believe it is called the Special Charter Shaft or is near it. Check the map to be sure. Search that area for his stash, which is 3 Bacchus's Wines and 2 Megalixers.

thanks, but its not too much of a four if you ask me

Hynad
02-11-2007, 11:38 PM
forevercloud: what the hell are you saying? The display WONT display a 12 000/9999. If you have 12000 HP it will still be displayed as a 9999 HP but will take over 2000 damage for it to drop below this. Unless you're playing on a different version than the US one and this was changed, your last claim is totally false.

forevercloud
02-11-2007, 11:45 PM
Um well maybe if you read it correctly. Target one of your own characters, and I forget if you need to have libra equipped or not but in the little box that displays who you've targeted it will display their hp as higher than 9999 if you have bubble or bubble belt. On the little display that shows all of your characters it will still say 9999 though.

Hynad
02-12-2007, 12:02 AM
yeah, I think now it's more accurate. I guess it wasn't really clear the first time.

forevercloud
02-12-2007, 12:03 AM
I apologize, I was kind of unspecific when I said how it displays their health.

tiberiusking
02-12-2007, 11:55 AM
i was wandering if there is another way to get the diamond amlet than from Phon Coast, i heard there was a monster that droped them but i dont know which one or were the monster is?

OysterHead
02-14-2007, 05:18 AM
i just got these fire elemented arrows and i was wondering if it did less damage on fire types on the same damage as a regular arrow

Agent0042
02-14-2007, 05:36 AM
Diamond Armlet? I'm pretty sure I got one simply as a Bazaar item, but heck if I remember what items were needed to make it. I think I may have also gotten one in a treasure.


And yes, fire element would do less damage on a fire enemy, or it might even absorb it. Generally, you want to go for the opposite element of whatever what you're facing is strong at, or just use Libra to see the weakness.

OysterHead
02-14-2007, 07:11 AM
one more question, how exactly do i use libra?

Hynad
02-14-2007, 07:17 AM
Libra gives you info on the monsters when you fight them (in the top-left corner of the screen), and it lets you see the many traps in each areas. To use it, you either use the technik, or equip a Bangle on one of the character. If you equip the bangle, the effect will be on as long as it is equipped and the character wearing it is on your active party.

Neg
02-14-2007, 07:25 AM
Is the weather in Ozmone fixed to Idyllic on your first visit? I can't make it cloudy for the life of me. I'm zoning from Giza AND Golmore, and it just isn't happening.

I need it for Sylphi Entites, obviously, and Bull Croc & Aeros.

Also, I'm filling in my humanoid bestiary entries (i.e., Garifs, at the moment) and I'm curious if the Bangaa Pugilist in the Estersand, near the Mosphoran entrance, respawns. Rabanastre Watch Bangaas obviously don't count.

DeathShining
02-14-2007, 10:37 AM
About the diamond armlet, you can buy these from the merchant in the southbank village in the estersand, they go for 20000 a peice. Im not sure at what point in the game they become available though, probably the same as the golden axe.

Egg
02-14-2007, 12:41 PM
Where do you find the "item that lets you understand cockatrices"? I do believe it is called a magick feather but I'm not sure. I've looked everywhere and one of the people in the Giza said it's in the Giza Plains but I haven't been able to find it. It would be helpful for the Center of Archades and also for Jahara. Help would be appreciated.

tiberiusking
02-14-2007, 01:06 PM
in Giza, you have to knock down all the trees in the rains, then go to the bottom right of Gizaand there will be a bridge of trees, go across it and go to the southern-most point on the map

tiberiusking
02-14-2007, 01:09 PM
About the diamond armlet, you can buy these from the merchant in the southbank village in the estersand, they go for 20000 a peice. Im not sure at what point in the game they become available though, probably the same as the golden axe.

i dont know how, bt mysteriously one just pooppedup on my accesories list a couple of day ago, i think something in the Henne mines dropped it, thats the only place i've been for the past week

Agent0042
02-14-2007, 06:31 PM
The device to talk to the cockatrices is the Feather of the Flock. If you've already defeated the Gil Snapper, then you've already been to that area. If so, then just go back to the Tracks of the Beast during the rains in Giza --- it's in an urn there. If you haven't been, then follow tiberius's steps to get there. And tiberius, for the love of Pete --- you can edit a previous post if you have something else to add.

Egg
02-14-2007, 08:00 PM
How do you get to the Tracks of the Beast, I can't find that area either. I know it's in the Plains during the Rains but where?

Agent0042
02-14-2007, 09:54 PM
If it's not showing up, then you probably haven't felled all the trees that you need to. It's in the area just after the save crystal where the petitioners are. Once you've felled all the trees, there's a secret path that opens up.


Seriously --- if that's not enough info, GameFAQs. They've got plenty of tips and maps there that should help you find it. Oh, and I'm pretty sure the exact locations for the trees you need to go after are posted somewhere earlier in this thread.

tiberiusking
02-14-2007, 10:25 PM
The device to talk to the cockatrices is the Feather of the Flock. If you've already defeated the Gil Snapper, then you've already been to that area. If so, then just go back to the Tracks of the Beast during the rains in Giza --- it's in an urn there. If you haven't been, then follow tiberius's steps to get there. And tiberius, for the love of Pete --- you can edit a previous post if you have something else to add.

you cant edit and add in a quote response though, right

Agent0042
02-15-2007, 12:03 AM
You can edit and add in whatever you want. Or have you not heard of cut and paste?

tiberiusking
02-15-2007, 05:46 PM
ive heard of cut and paste!!!!

Agent0042
02-15-2007, 06:05 PM
Well, good. Then all you have to do is select the quoted material, cut it, and paste it into edit. Or copy it as the case may be and just type the BBCode yourself.

Neg
02-17-2007, 11:20 PM
To answer my own questions (for anyone else wondering the same):

The weather in Ozmone does appear to be fixed to clear skies on your first visit. As soon as I gained control of Giza's weather, I was able to make Ozmone cloudy almost instantaneously during Giza's Dry.

The Bangaa in the Estersand, near Mosphoran, does re-spawn but is just as annoying to farm as the Garif in Ozmone's Greensnake area.

Agent0042
02-17-2007, 11:55 PM
Weather in Ozmone --- oh, definitely. It wouldn't work, plotwise, if it wasn't set to clear skies automatically the first time you go there.


Bangaa / Garif --- not sure what you mean by "farming" them?

Neg
02-18-2007, 12:09 AM
Oh, I just meant filling in the bestiary entry. I understand them wanting to make it suspenseful in the stories associated with humanoid entries, but just tell me I need 8 and be done with it, instead of 2, 1, 3, 2.

Agent0042
02-18-2007, 02:04 AM
Huh? You can get a bestiary on those? When I attacked and killed that Bangaa, the damage showed as red and the Combat Log read "Rabanastre Watch has fallen." Unless you're talking about some other Bangaa that I'm not aware of?

Revaninja
02-18-2007, 02:09 AM
Yeah he his there are some Banaga Seeq and Garif that show up in the enemy box. Like Banaga Pitate thief etc. They fill in your Monster list I found Banaga Pirates at Cobbi stepe entrance to the Uplands on a sunset to help some people know idea if those are their only spawn spot/requirments I have only run into them once and claimed my List entry and never bothered to completly fill the Second Page entry.

Agent0042
02-18-2007, 02:10 AM
Thanks! That's good info, I'll make sure to get that for mine.

Neg
02-18-2007, 02:25 AM
Filling in the humanoids (outside of the various Imperials and Baknamy) is a pain. Like I said before, only some of them actually count. For example the Rabanastre Watch Bangaas (like you said) and Cheif Supinelu don't count, which is a shame since they re-spawn faster than the ones that do.

The Garif you want is in Greensnake, and one Bangaa shows up in the Estersand as noted above.

They all have 5 page entries, and they fill in progressively. When you kill one, it says you need one more (for a total of 2), when you get the second, you open the first page of the additional entry. Then it progresses through needing 1, then 3, and finally 2 to unlock the other pages. The stories are actually a little interesting as I am pretty sure the ones from Uritan-Yensas and Garifs are referring to the origins of Omega and Yiazmat, respectively.

Agent0042
02-18-2007, 02:41 AM
Yeah, I've filled in the Urutan-Yensa, the Baknamy, and the Seeq. The first two are both very easy to fill in --- the Seeq aren't too bad because you can get two of the Cataran in the Mosphoran Highwaste, but they don't always show up.

Neg
02-18-2007, 02:49 AM
I just beat Tiamat, but I got a wild hair and decided I was going to try and grab the Zodiac spear. Well, I did. Do you know if this changes anything storywise? I can't think of any reason right off hand.

I can keep it and go about my business, or I can just get it "when I should" since I made a seperate save file. I'm just kinda paranoid, you know me.

Agent0042
02-18-2007, 02:51 AM
Change anything storywise? Nah, no way. Heading in that direction that early in the game is just a nice little bonus built into the game. It doesn't change anything story-wise. Congrats, and enjoy having the use of a terribly-awesome weapon that early in the game.


P.S.: Assuming and hoping at least one of your characters is Licensed to use it. If not, well, yeah, start learning.

Neg
02-18-2007, 03:03 AM
Thanks! Yeah, I actually made a list of required Loot soon after I started the game, and I've been collecting as I go. It's pretty amazing what you can get early if you know what you need right off the bat. Notably, Arcturus and the Scorpion Tail, along with a handful of the strongest ammunitions/bombs. Plus, it'll certainly save me time later, as I've already got a nice portion of the ingredients for the Tournesol.

Also, I recommend getting the Theif's Cuffs after Raithwall, so you can steal your High Arcana from the Espers. Save serpentarius, the zodiac gems are easy to get otherwise, so you might as well take advatage of not having to synthesize High Arcanas.

Edit: Full boards for all Agent :-D

Agent0042
02-18-2007, 04:09 AM
Holy canoli. What's your current playing time?

Neg
02-18-2007, 04:34 AM
132:41:26

Agent0042
02-18-2007, 04:42 AM
ROTFL. Mine is something around 105 hours, and I'm at the end of the game, every hunt except Yiazmat completed, all of the espers obtained and most the Bestiary and Sky Pirate's Den taken care of.

Well, to each their own way of playing the game, I suppose.

Neg
02-18-2007, 04:52 AM
Yeah, I was thinking about Reva's time, and now that I've heard yours, I am definitely wondering what's going on. I mean I know grocery shopping for loot takes a while, but I'm still kinda wierded out by the discrepancy. I mean, I don't leave it idle for extended periods of time or anything. Oh well, whatever. Halcyon hunting usually takes the most time.

Speaking of which, I'm pretty convinced that the reason the Salamand Halcyon is available in the July side-quest is because the slow-down in the Primary Tank Complex is INSANE.

Agent0042
02-18-2007, 05:11 AM
It's because you're chasing after items and doing level up and stuff way early in the game. Considering how easy the bosses are generally, I just don't see the point of crazy level-up, except for Mark hunting and a few other things, I just saved a lot of the sidequest and character build-up until the end of the game.

For goodness sake, at where you are right now, I don't think Embroidered Tippet is even available yet, and I don't even see the point of leveling up without that --- it gives you double EXP!

Neg
02-18-2007, 05:41 AM
Trust me, at this point, I'm not going out of my way to level. It just happens while I'm loot hunting. One of my goals it to have every piece of equipment--that takes a fair amount of synthesizing, as you know. Being this strong is just a consequence of that decision. Finding materials for synthesis has always been one of my favorite things in FFs, so I don't have any qualms about it or fear of burning out.

DeathShining
02-18-2007, 07:08 PM
Yeah to have every peice of equipment in the game will take alot of loot, im going for this in my game as well but ive come accross a problem.

Its the ninja swords, it says in the gamefaq's weapon guide the Iga Blade is found in the Sochen cave palace as a treasure, but i found a koga blade. Now it says the koga blade is from the cockatrice sidequest, so i thought i might receive an Iga Blade instead, but i got another Koga Blade. So i have 2 Koga Blades and no Iga Blade.

Which treasure in sochen has the Iga Blade, i thought it was the 1 behind the door, you know the 1 where you have to change the course of the waterfalls. But thats where i found the Koga Blade, if its this treasure, will it respawn? If not, which treasure is it, anyone????

Neg
02-18-2007, 07:16 PM
According to the official guide, it's the same chest, and it isn't re-spawnable. 50% chance for Iga, 50% for Koga. It could be wrong, it has been before. Also, that is the only way to get it, again according to the guide.

Revaninja
02-18-2007, 07:18 PM
Okay your guide is telling the truth about the Blade. The problem is it is a 50-50 chest with one being Iga and the other being Koga. I don't know if the chest respawns but you could try again or if you have a save before you found it go back to it then just keeping trying to get it. Most treasure chest will respawn if you go 3 zones from that area but bewarned monsters respawn at 2 zones so be prepared.

EDIT-I was typing mine when Knegative posted so sorry.

DeathShining
02-18-2007, 07:27 PM
If i knew about this god knows how many hours ago i would have done the reload the save game before thing, and kept on trying till i received the Iga Blade.

Will see if the treasure respawns though, damn! I have been through their since and not seen any treasure. I wanted to have 1 of everything, was'nt botherd about how long it takes.

Thanks for the info people!

BeneHaElohim
02-20-2007, 02:07 AM
Quick question for folks that have done the Hunter's Camp thing in the Phon Coast: I found a list of what items become available for sale based on how many trophies you bring to each Bangaa, and I thought that Holy Motes at 150 gil each sounded like a steal, so that's what I was going to shoot for. What I'm wondering is, can you purchase as many as you like, anytime you like, or can you only buy a limited number of each item?

Revaninja
02-20-2007, 03:11 AM
You can Buy READ ONE. That is it you get one item for your hard work and most of them it is easier to Bazaar or just wait till you can buy.

BeneHaElohim
02-20-2007, 03:31 AM
You can Buy READ ONE...

I'm deducing from that response that you mean one can purchase only one of each item (not sure what you mean by READ ONE - checked the first page of this thread, and while it hinted at relevance to the topic of my question it didn't answer it)? If so, does this apply to every item?

Revaninja
02-20-2007, 03:37 AM
Yes that is why I said Read ONE. You can only purchase one of each item and you don't even get to know what it is the description is like 'A Really good spear' etc. So you can get some good stuff early its just really not worth except in one area if you go to Arcadia to the garden where you need the Sandlewood Chop there is in the back area a group of men talk to them and they will tell you they are the Backers for the Hunt club hunters. They will then each time you talk to them with a Ceratin number of trophies given to the Hunters they will give you 2 different types of Zodiac stones you can get all 12 this way. Very handy if one is having trouble getting all of them.

BeneHaElohim
02-20-2007, 04:10 AM
Yes that is why I said Read ONE. You can only purchase one of each item and you don't even get to know what it is...

Right, I've been giving all my trophies to Stok, and the Outfitter's wares are all listed as "Sundry items" - no description, no help.


the description is like 'A Really good spear' etc...

From the sounds of things, I'd say you're giving your trophies to Atak, so I'm wondering if items such as weapons, armour, accessories, etc. are a one time purchase (the two sundry items I can buy now are Thief's Cuffs and Steel Ployens (sp?) which are one time purchases), but I wonder if actual inventory items like the Holy Mote and Reflectga Mote are repeatable items? Do you know about/have any experience with these?


They will then each time you talk to them with a Ceratin number of trophies given to the Hunters they will give you 2 different types of Zodiac stones you can get all 12 this way...

Zodiac stones? All 12? Sorry, new to me - what are these used for?

Revaninja
02-20-2007, 04:23 AM
Zodiac stone is Tarus Gem, Gemni Gem, Libra gem, and so forth you sell them at the Market and it helps you get some of the better equipment like you need 3 Serpantirus, the 13th Zodiac where the sun is, for Tournesol. There are others.

As for the Sundry I don't know but I think it will stay true to form though so I think you will only get one item for each one. Also in case if you don't know the Outfitter that sells the stuff is Looking at the 3 lizard brothers to the right next to some crates nearby.

Neg
02-20-2007, 04:48 AM
I remember Agent saying that we can't successfully direct link to GameFaqs guides, so I'll just highly recommend looking up the XII page and all the guides written by Sephirosuy. He has been an invaluable help with the maps he has created and especially (for me) his Bazaar/Loot and Rare Game FAQs.

The Zodiac gems are used mostly to synthesize some of the more powerful ammos, and notably the Sagittarius Bow, the Scorpion Tail Hammer, and the Stoneblade. Also, if you've been neglecting your hunts they can net you a Nihopalaoa and a Cat-Ear Hood.

The canonical gems can be stolen from several different enemies each, with relative ease if you equip your Thief's Cuffs. The all-important serpentarius gems have to be synthesized, stolen from Zodiark, or gained as a reward for controlling all the espers.

Revaninja
02-20-2007, 04:54 AM
Well actually Serpentariurs is canonical its location is the postion of the Sun but sense XIII is considered an unlucky number most people don't like to talk about it.
It comes from the Legend that a Serpeant eats the Sun every night and a warrior beats it out in the Morn hence why we have bloody sunsets and rises. Myths are fun little things to read.

Neg
02-20-2007, 05:01 AM
You're right. I used it just to make the distinction between what the person of the street thinks of when you say "zodiac" and what it actually entails, my bad. And you actually mentioned it in the post above mine, my bad x2.

Revaninja
02-20-2007, 05:17 AM
No prob.

Agent0042
02-20-2007, 05:19 AM
Knegative, you're right, GameFAQs actually has blocking software in place to prevent just that because they got tired of people doing it --- I would suspect probably because the FAQ pages themselves are just text and therefore don't have any advertising. So you can imagine the problem it would cause if direct-linking to them were possible. What you can do, though, is link to the GameFAQs FFXII page (I actually have it linked in the Forum Charter) and then direct people to specific authors (as you did) or FAQs.

DeathShining
02-20-2007, 11:09 AM
Yes that is why I said Read ONE. You can only purchase one of each item and you don't even get to know what it is the description is like 'A Really good spear' etc. So you can get some good stuff early its just really not worth except in one area if you go to Arcadia to the garden where you need the Sandlewood Chop there is in the back area a group of men talk to them and they will tell you they are the Backers for the Hunt club hunters. They will then each time you talk to them with a Ceratin number of trophies given to the Hunters they will give you 2 different types of Zodiac stones you can get all 12 this way. Very handy if one is having trouble getting all of them.

You dont have to hand over your trophies to the hunters to receive gems from the backers, you just have to have them in your key items. So if you want gems, but want to find out what you get for selling certain trophies to certain bangaa's when you have them all you can do. Im going to do this when i have all trophies, theirs probably a list out their somewhere anyway but i hav'nt found one. Anyone know if their is one, i have tried gameFAQ's but no joy.

Neg
02-20-2007, 04:49 PM
I have the lists from the official guide. I'll be glad to post them soon (read: Thursday). Grad school has my soul for the next two days. If anyone else has them, by all means.

real life beckens :sad:

Edit: Here we go. Never let it be said I can't multitask :)

Atak (Weapon Procurer)

Trophy Item Cost
1 Kogarasumaru 5040
5 Obelisk 6750
10 Murasame 7650
15 Diamond Sword 11250
20 Deathbringer 14400
25 Gastrophetes 18900
30 Gungnir 25500

Stok (Sundries Procurer)

1 Thief's Cuffs 2700
5 Steel Poleyns 900
10 Winged Boots 450
15 Indigo Pendent 4500
20 Diamond Armlet 18000
25 Reflectga Mote 270
30 Holy Mote 150

Blok (Protectives Procurer)

1 Demon Mail 4410
5 Diamond Armor 6300
10 Mirror Mail 7290
15 Gaia Gear 8370
20 Dragon Mail 11250
25 Magepower Shishak 13500
30 Maximillian 25500

Sorry if there's a way to make a table here. Let me know and I'll gladly re-do it.

Rexomaru
02-22-2007, 12:32 AM
I have the lists from the official guide. I'll be glad to post them soon (read: Thursday). Grad school has my soul for the next two days. If anyone else has them, by all means.

real life beckens :sad:

Edit: Here we go. Never let it be said I can't multitask :)

Atak (Weapon Procurer)

Trophy Item Cost
1 Kogarasumaru 5040
5 Obelisk 6750
10 Murasame 7650
15 Diamond Sword 11250
20 Deathbringer 14400
25 Gastrophetes 18900
30 Gungnir 25500

Stok (Sundries Procurer)

1 Thief's Cuffs 2700
5 Steel Poleyns 900
10 Winged Boots 450
15 Indigo Pendent 4500
20 Diamond Armlet 18000
25 Reflectga Mote 270
30 Holy Mote 150

Blok (Protectives Procurer)

1 Demon Mail 4410
5 Diamond Armor 6300
10 Mirror Mail 7290
15 Gaia Gear 8370
20 Dragon Mail 11250
25 Magepower Shishak 13500
30 Maximillian 25500

Sorry if there's a way to make a table here. Let me know and I'll gladly re-do it. OOOOOOO this seems like some useful info, i'm gonna go give it a try. Thnx

Neg
02-22-2007, 01:57 AM
No problem, Rexo. Welcome to the Shrine.

Agent0042
02-22-2007, 04:10 AM
This is a good list, but does it mean it's not possible to make it up to the max for all of them? Because there are only 80 rare game and only some of them seem to drop trophies. Unless it's possible to get the same trophy more than once?

Revaninja
02-22-2007, 04:40 AM
No Agent you only get one trophy because that Rare game shows up only once per game. So yes Pick what you want to get and stick with it I am currently working on the weapons list and I screwed up by accident so I can't get the last item.

Agent0042
02-22-2007, 05:04 AM
Thanks, Reva! I'm still fairly early on in my rare game hunting, so now that I know what to do, I'll make my choice and stick with it.


P.S. --- There aren't any unique items on there, are there? As far as I can tell, all of the armor at least, I think you can get elsewhere.

Revaninja
02-22-2007, 05:33 AM
Yep easier to just Bazaar them or wait till they become avabile in game plot wise. The only really gems are the Zodiac gems-sorry couldn't resist- since gems like Virgo can be rare and hard to get but not impossible so it is really up to you on your choices. Its more bragging right and Monster list fill then anything they just threw in the items to make it worth your while to Rare hunt is all.

PS the once per game only applies to the Rare with trophy none trophy will show up again if you match the crietra right.

Hynad
02-22-2007, 07:09 AM
I heard somewhere that once you've completed this side-quest, it is possible to start again from the beginning and hunt the 30 rare games that drops the trophies again.

Revaninja
02-22-2007, 07:59 AM
Huh? Where did you hear that? I have never run across that one before nor am I in any place to confirm it. Werid truly the first time I have seen that.

DeathShining
02-22-2007, 10:47 AM
Thanks for the list knegative.

Dont know what i'll do with the trophies now though i already have everything on their, I was hoping for something i dont have.

Neg
02-22-2007, 02:26 PM
No problem, everyone. There had to be a reason for getting the guide other than a Penelo cover :-P

So, is talking to the Viera for the Fafnir hunt the only way to get a Blizzard in Paramina? Yes, I'm asking because of my Entite fetish. I just entered Parmina (haven't been to Bur-Omisace or even explored yet) so I haven't played with the weather, if this is an obviously stupid question.

Edit: Reva, Gungnir may still be within your grasp:

2= Mystletainn
Drops - Golem ............ Feywood
Steal - Juggernaut ....... Feywood (rare mosnter)
Poach - Golem ............ Feywood


2= Ketu Board
Drops - Cassie ........... Ridorana Cataract
Steal - Dr. Cid .......... Pharos at Ridorana (boss)
*might get other items.


2= Broken Spear
Drops - Skull Warrior .... Tomb of Raithwall
Poach - Fideliant ........ Dalmasca Westersand (rare monster)

Again, thank Sephirosuy for this info.

Revaninja
02-22-2007, 05:43 PM
Oh I already got it I just meant I can't complete the list I made it long before I discovered the hunt club.

As for your question on the Blizzard no it happens normally the Fafnir hunt just makes it easier. Just go from places like Stilshrine or the Mt into the rift back and forth until you get a blizzard. You can tell it is a Blizzard when you get a heavy snow fall and a foggy foreground that blocks sight your map will be your best tool.

Neg
02-22-2007, 06:00 PM
I was just making sure, Reva. That info may help someone decide which procurer to back. And thanks for the weather information. If there is one thing that isn't addressed in the official guide, it's the weather changes.

DeathShining
02-22-2007, 09:14 PM
Try entering from feywood, you will get a blizzard if you keep trying, i noticed and i said in other threads that blizzards appear more if you enter from feywood, well im pretty sure anyway. Plus theirs an entite in that area just a bit further on from where the yeti normally is when theirs no blizzard.

Neg
02-22-2007, 09:20 PM
Leshach Entite without a blizzard? Sweet. I haven't played since Monday, I'll remedy that tonight.

Revaninja
02-22-2007, 10:35 PM
Those aren't entites but rather Elements. I have never run into an Entite without a Blizzard in the rift but I have run into Elements without one.

Neg
02-22-2007, 10:45 PM
I had a feeling, Reva. But, let's ask Deathshining, just in case.

DeathShining, did you mean elementals? The elementals are little amorphous balls of their respective elements. Entites are large, strictly circular spheres.

I'm not trying to be condescending, just want to clear up the mix-up if there is one. I mean, it is "possible". Salamand Entites show up when the weather is clear in Ogir-Yensa, as opposed to when there is a sandstorm there, but like you said Reva, I've never seen an entite, save Salamand, without the concomitant weather phenomenon.

Edit: Deathshining must have meant elementals. Entites only showed during Blizzards. They were handy for some impromptu leveling. Sorry Agent, I'm doing it again :(

Egg
02-27-2007, 10:35 PM
Anyone know how to get the cab working in the Center of Archadia after you get the cockatrice to go away.

DeathShining
02-28-2007, 11:53 AM
I had a feeling, Reva. But, let's ask Deathshining, just in case.

DeathShining, did you mean elementals? The elementals are little amorphous balls of their respective elements. Entites are large, strictly circular spheres.

I'm not trying to be condescending, just want to clear up the mix-up if there is one. I mean, it is "possible". Salamand Entites show up when the weather is clear in Ogir-Yensa, as opposed to when there is a sandstorm there, but like you said Reva, I've never seen an entite, save Salamand, without the concomitant weather phenomenon.

Edit: Deathshining must have meant elementals. Entites only showed during Blizzards. They were handy for some impromptu leveling. Sorry Agent, I'm doing it again :(

No sorry it was the way i typed the words, i did mean the entites not the elementals, but i meant that the entite shows up where the yeti is, but when theirs a blizzard not when theirs no blizzard. I messed up on the post sorry for any misleading claims and confusion.

Darthnicolas
02-28-2007, 12:30 PM
anyone knows where exactly can i find the hunted wyvern lord?
it says a whole region and i'm a bit bored to search through lower lvl mobs :/

tiberiusking
02-28-2007, 12:59 PM
have you talked to the clan guy about it

Darthnicolas
02-28-2007, 02:42 PM
have you talked to the clan guy about it

about the wyvern?
what do you mean speak to montblanc?
i spoke to the petitioner and he said western of the center of nam-yensa...
i'd just want to hear the place by name...
can't figure out where's west...

Neg
02-28-2007, 03:27 PM
It's in Simoon Bluff (part of Nam-Yensa). On the last screen before Raithwall's Tomb, head north instead of West and you will enter an area that is trapped pretty heavily at the entrance. Head up the hill and you'll find him in the open area.

Edit: No prob, Deathshining

Hynad
02-28-2007, 05:26 PM
Ok, I'm sure this has been discussed in here in some form. I remember reading something about it.

I think it was that in order to make them appear in the Feywood, you have to do the same thing as with the Behemoth King, which is kill all monsters in the Edge of Reason and the Ice Field of Clearsight. Things I did, but for some reason the Mandragora family won't appear.

Is there anyone here who knows the exact way to make them appear? Because when I did this for the Behemoth King, he appeared on my first attempt. But now, the Mandragoras just won't appear. Can you help me please?

Darthnicolas
02-28-2007, 06:08 PM
It's in Simoon Bluff (part of Nam-Yensa). On the last screen before Raithwall's Tomb, head north instead of West and you will enter an area that is trapped pretty heavily at the entrance. Head up the hill and you'll find him in the open area.

Edit: No prob, Deathshining

thnxxxxx





one more question plz
how can i get to the white mousse?
it says it's in west sluice control something but i can't get there because of waters so how?
there's something about a sluice key how do i get it?

Revaninja
02-28-2007, 09:03 PM
There is an open path to the right when you enter the White mousse is how you get the key you also have to activate its hunt one of the mogglings moogles is the petioner talk to Montblanc to start it.

Darthnicolas
02-28-2007, 09:33 PM
There is an open path to the right when you enter the White mousse is how you get the key you also have to activate its hunt one of the mogglings moogles is the petioner talk to Montblanc to start it.

i've activated it..
but still all exits to west sluice control are overflowed with water...
i thought i needed a key for those devices :/

Revaninja
02-28-2007, 11:32 PM
No I did it you need to just walk around in the area that is not flooded until you find it I know because I did the Thiefs hunt before the Key hunt so I know for a fact you can do it. Look at the circles before the gate controls near the save point if they are lit up the area in line with them is unflooded use that to get passage you should be able to get there from the Intial Gates that are opened you just need to wander around in that area.

Agent0042
03-01-2007, 12:08 AM
Reva is correct. You just need to search carefully for the correct area, you don't have to mess with any of the controls to get to it, it should be open automatically.

Incidentally, if you've already completed the Barheim Passage, there's an area leading into the Waterway from there and I believe it takes you due where you need to go for this hunt.

Neg
03-01-2007, 02:32 AM
I'm 99% sure that in order to use the entrance from Barhiem you have to defeat Zalera, but yes it does put you very close to the right area.

The area you want is available without changing any of the sluice settings, though.

Hynad
03-01-2007, 02:41 AM
Nobody knows the answer to my question?

Revaninja
03-01-2007, 05:03 AM
I do simply clear out both areas where the ruins are that show you the way with an Illusion if you do it right go to the area that has the entrance to the Giruvegan. They run around near the Ruins and usually stay in groups of 2 and bigger you only get one for each of the nobles so you have to go to where you killed the Planet Boss and then back it takes forever and a half but that is how you do it.

Note you must kill EVERY monster in both areas to get the Nobles to show up. I did them after I killed Behemoth King so I know it works.

Darthnicolas
03-01-2007, 09:31 AM
No I did it you need to just walk around in the area that is not flooded until you find it I know because I did the Thiefs hunt before the Key hunt so I know for a fact you can do it. Look at the circles before the gate controls near the save point if they are lit up the area in line with them is unflooded use that to get passage you should be able to get there from the Intial Gates that are opened you just need to wander around in that area.

thnx i wandered a while and i found a passage..
though it was too hard i got beat up and i ended up fleeing..
but i think it's natural if the monsters in that area are 35+ and my party is 19-29 :/
i should progress the main story be4 i go to higher marks..

Hynad
03-01-2007, 04:35 PM
Thanks Reva. It worked, but the Mandragoras appeared in the Ice Field of Clearsight, not the Edge of Reason. And I add to kill all the monsters in the Ice Field like 3 times before they would appear. There are 31 monsters in the Edge of Reason and 29 in the Ice Field of Clearsight. And I found that these litle beasts can be really nasty if you give them the time. :)

Revaninja
03-01-2007, 04:48 PM
It helps ALOT if you can kill Monsters in that area with one hit or in a few hits. Monsters start to regenerate after a ceratin time so you have to be fast and perfectionist in order to make it easier.

As for the nobles a really easy way to handle them is Scath plus Headhunter I think it is the one that replenishes magic for kills. I killed all of them in one hit and got back the magic doing the spell took made my life SO much easier. Of course that only works if they stay together which they don't always do. I once had one of them just outside my spell range by an inch and then he Ran to the next ruin he lead me on a merry chase. Oh well still got him in the end though.

The one thing I hate about is the High Number of kills you have to do for their second page. I mean they have 14 or so needed and we only see one at a time. It would be different if say they were like Cerberus rare but there in some numbers but not what they give us. It is probably the second hardest entry to get besides the Humaniods entry. Humaniod beats them because of how much rarer they are and their huge amount of numbers needed. Entites are below the Nobles because they get descriptions on how to get them and from their its just entering and exisiting till you get them. But the Nobles have no hints and it is a pain to get their show condotions alone. I am glad I only have to do that once per game and that is it.

Hynad
03-01-2007, 05:13 PM
I also used Scathe to kill them off when they were all at the same place. They were getting tougher when they managed to escape. These little brats run faster than our characters so they often had the time to escape, cast some Physical attack nullifiers and then they would end up hitting me with 9000 ish damage! I didn't get wiped-out fighting them. I just was surprised they would give me this kind of response.

I now completed their entries in the Bestiary. Now all that is left for me to complete the bestiary is find the Bangaas, kill the Magic Pot (because you need Elixirs to get rid of them, I was waiting until the end of the game) and then I have to be lucky and find the 38 Rare Games I haven't fought yet.

***Please note that I don't use a guide to play my games, so my game is now nearly at 200 hours of play-time, and there's still some things left for me to do (like completing the button mashing Run in Balfonheim - of which I'm currently at level 40).

Neg
03-01-2007, 05:45 PM
I posted the location of a Bangaa pugilist earlier in this thread (page 12), Hynad. If you're interested.

Hynad
03-01-2007, 05:52 PM
I might check it out, but I know there is one somewhere in the Phon Coast. Is it the one you're talking about?

Neg
03-01-2007, 05:54 PM
Well now that you've asked :-P

My guy is in the Estersand, near the entrance to Mosphoran. The area where you get the valeblossom dew.

Hynad
03-01-2007, 05:59 PM
Thanks a lot! Now the only monsters left for me to unlock are the Magick Pot and Rare games, which should be a pain for someone who doesn't want to use a guide! (I got some friends who helped me out with some stuff like the Zodiark Spear, but most of the game, I found all the stuff by myself)... Any advice to help me find the rare games?

Also, I heard here there is a trick to activate each Concurrences. That's one of the last thing I have to do to get every Pirate's Den entries. Any hints?

Neg
03-01-2007, 06:05 PM
There is a concurrence table in this (Thread 34683) thread. I'm not sure if that violates your "no guide" principle, though.

Otherwise, the only hint I can think to give is that each concurrence relies on a certain number of each level of quickening. E.g., one concurrence requires 4 quickenings of each level [4 lvl 1s, 4 lvl 2s, 4 lvl 3s].

Hynad
03-01-2007, 06:07 PM
Yeah I figured that out. But there's nothing in the game that tells us what levels you have to use. So I might end up checking this link! :)

Agent0042
03-01-2007, 06:41 PM
Hynad --- I know where the Magick Pots are --- okay to tell you?

Hynad
03-01-2007, 06:43 PM
:-P I know as well, they're in the Pharos Subs. As I said, I was waiting till the end of the game because I have this habit to keep my elixirs till the end. ;-)

Agent0042
03-01-2007, 06:46 PM
Oh, don't worry about the Elixirs. You can steal it back from them. It's a bit of a pain-in-the-ass, but if you set your top Gambit to Steal, you can get it back within a few minutes. And you can win anything from an Ether to a Megalixir. If your License Board isn't already full, then equip everyone with Golden Amulet because this monster gives a big bounty of LP. If it is, then there really isn't much reward for fighting it.

Hynad
03-01-2007, 06:48 PM
I remember the first time I fought them... I ended up fleeing and thought: "Damn, they've evolved since FFVII !!!!"

Agent0042
03-01-2007, 06:51 PM
As soon as I see one, I like to turn Gambits off, just to leave nothing to chance. And then try to kill off all enemies around it. The important thing is to just not attack the Magick Pot by accident.

Hynad
03-01-2007, 06:51 PM
The important thing is to just not attack the Magick Pot by accident.
yeah, that's what i did back then. Are they difficult to beat once you've given them an elixir?

Agent0042
03-01-2007, 06:54 PM
Easy as pie for me. They bounce and run around like lightning, but they don't attack anymore. And they don't take all that long to kill off either. It's really just more of a matter of patience if you want to steal back the Elixir.

Hynad
03-01-2007, 06:58 PM
Good, so I should'nt have any problems with my level 99 party! I don't remember what level I was the first time I battled with them, but I remember I though: Hynad, I think you shouldn't be here yet. lol

And just a curiosity, are the last concurrences really impressive or are they like the earlier and easier ones (they all look alike, anly one is water, one is rock, one is fire, etc...) Is there any impressive looking concurrence or is it just same old same old?

Neg
03-01-2007, 07:09 PM
It's really all in someone's perception of aesthetics, but no the "ultimate" concurrence doesn't look very different from the rest.

Ultimadream
03-01-2007, 07:38 PM
Just a matter of curiousity,does it matter if you kill that Creature of Jahara in the Ozome Plains,he began to attack me so i wiped him out ( ive been to Jaha already before,now at Mt Bur-Omisace)

Never Mind i hink it was just a normal Garif

Neg
03-01-2007, 09:18 PM
If he was in the Greensnake area, he counts towards your bestiary. If he was in Haulo Green, it was Warchief Supinelu. Killing him only changes the scene when you enter Jahara for the first time. You're past that Ultima, so it doesn't matter either way.

Egg
03-01-2007, 10:17 PM
In the main center in Archadia, where the cockatrice is.

I got him to go away using the Feather of the Flock, but now when you go where the cabs are, the dude says their temporarily down.

Agent0042
03-02-2007, 05:25 AM
I could be way off the mark, but I don't think those cabs ever become available.

Revaninja
03-02-2007, 07:30 PM
Egg can you please repeat that a little more clear. Do you mean cabs in the Garden area or cabs near the Teleport crystal? I don't understrand which one you mean so rephrase and be more specific on which Cabs you mean and give a general location please. It helps us answer your questions better.

Neg
03-03-2007, 12:23 AM
Alright, where are the Nightwalkers in the Stilshrine? I know Negalmuur was originally a nightwalker, but where are the normal ones? (Bestiary entry #102)

Edit/Answer: Clear the shrine, come back and there are two by the waystone.

Egg
03-03-2007, 07:21 AM
Once you obtain all the Pinewood chops in Archadia, you can trade them in and obtain the SandalWood chop. When you obtain that when you go to the east side of archadia. I think it's something like tessenoble or something you can talk to a gil and she asks ou if you have a sandlewood chop. If so you can go up the elevator, to the C'enter" of archadies. Once you exit the elevator if you go to the right you go up a flight of stairs and that is where the cab thing is. If you go to the left there is just another section of central archadia where you can talk to pointless people. And have a great veiw of the city. :P

Hope I explained it well enough.

Btw. I am around level 70 and still can't beat the final boss. When Vayne and Venat combine. He doesn't have a health bar. And I have tried attacking him as Agent said I should but he ends up killing me after aroud 15-20 minutes. :l

I would erally love to finish the game so i can see the final ending cinematic scene but I guess I won't be for some time. Thanks for all the help.

-Egg

Revaninja
03-03-2007, 09:28 PM
Okay that area never works the only cabs that work are near the Teleport cyrstal. As for the people in the garden you will see a bunch of gentlemen if you have started the Hunt club sidequest you will get stuff from them when you have a Ceratin numbers of trophies obtained they don't have to be in your inventory you just have to have obtained them is all.

As for Vayne pay attention to what he is doing. He throws up Pailing and Magic shield. Pailing makes him Immune to Physical Damage attack Techs and quickenings fall into this. Magic shield blocks all magic. Switch to the other if he uses Pailing bring up spells if Magic shield attacks. Also bring out your best equipment such as Tournesol if you have it or Zodiac spear such weapons as that to make it go faster. But really just attack and heal is really all you have to do took me at level 73 about 8 minutes or so to bring him done.

Agent0042
03-04-2007, 12:15 AM
What Reva said. Also, remember, this is the final battle!!! Don't be afraid to pull out everything you have. Use whatever items you want, etc. etc.

xxThe Highwind xx
03-04-2007, 02:29 AM
Hey i just Got the game and im wondering what to do with Earth/Wind/Fire and Water Stones. Should i sell them to Traders or are they usefull later on?

Neg
03-04-2007, 02:38 AM
They are very useful for synthesizing items on the bazaar. The list of what they are used for is quite long. Head over to Gamefaqs XII Page (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/data/459841.html) and look for the Bazaar/Loot guide by Sephirosuy. Sorry, we can't direct link to Gamefaqs.

Firey Arrows:
4 Fire stones
2 Crooked fangs

Aqua Shot:
5 Water Stones
3 Green Liquids
2 Yensa Scales

Long Bolts:
1 Ice Stone
4 Crooked Fangs
2 Yellow Liquids

I won't type out anymore, the list is quite large. Check Sephirosuy's FAQ for all the details. Loot is a very important part of the game, both for making money and synthesizing items.

xxThe Highwind xx
03-04-2007, 01:37 PM
Ok thank You Very Much :)

pimpedoutgeese
03-04-2007, 05:26 PM
Is there a way to get Zodiac Spear even though you opened the chest... I found out about the chest as I was opening up the 16 on Phon Coast lol

Joey
03-04-2007, 06:49 PM
There was a discussion about this a while ago that I remember. Here let me redirect you.

Thread 35637

A general skim through the pages and you should find an answer.

pimpedoutgeese
03-04-2007, 08:11 PM
Excellent... looks good thanks for the reply Joey

Neo Xzhan
03-05-2007, 02:07 PM
So I has a question. For not knowing all the names though. And hoping that my assumptions are correct.

When ever you kill a Fiend, the exp you recieve is shared throughout your party. So assuming you have 3 people in your party, the exp gets devided three way. Now, because it's rather hard to solo then to waste everything in your path with three people, I was wondering.

There's 2 different asseccories concerning exp. You can double the exp, and get no exp at all. So if you equip someone to get no exp, and someone else to get double exp, the exp will be devided to way. Meaning 1,5 times of normal, with double exp 3 times normal exp. Or when you have two people with no exp, you'll get 3 times normal exp (300 for a kill, 1x 0 exp = 150 per character times 2 for exp double = 300 exp and 150 exp respectively). (300 exp for a kill 2x 0 exp and 1x exp doubler = 600 exp) where as a normal kill (300 exp divided 3 way = 100 exp).

Am I assuming correctly? This would help powerleveling a few characters that I haven't use all too much. (Party differenct = 20 levels :p).

DeathShining
03-05-2007, 02:27 PM
Dude the exp is not devided by the three active party members EACH party member receives the same amount, so if you kill a monster and receive 3111exp then all three active party members recieve 3111exp each, it is not devided.

The only thing that will change it is if one member has an embroided tippet or a firefly equipped, so a tippet will result in 6222 exp on the character equipped with a tippet, the one's not equipped with a tippet will receive 3111exp, but the members with the firefly will receive 0 exp. Im sure you already knew that though.

You can see the exp earned by each character in the status menu.

Darkpaw
03-05-2007, 06:23 PM
Just one thing that is really really bothering me.... the people in my party keep attacking each other!
I'm about to cross that sand-sea place, and I have Vaan, Ashe and Basch in my party, and I can't understand why they're doing it. They have no status aliments, and I didn't direct them to do it. If I tell them to do something else, they'll do it, but then they go back to just attacking each other, or me (as Vaan) until there's only one left. I'm not sure if this is a glitch or I'm missing something obvious here, but it's incredibly annoying and I want to know how to stop it. What should I do?

Hynad
03-05-2007, 06:27 PM
can you tell me what your attack gambit is like?

Darkpaw
03-05-2007, 06:29 PM
Ummm.... Ashe has Any<80% cure, I think, then Attack: nearest visible, and I think Basch is the same... Vaan's aren't turned on.

Hynad
03-05-2007, 06:33 PM
that's the first time I've seen this happening. Either your gambits are all messed up, or your party is under confuse, or there's a bug.

Try to clear you gambits and re-do them from scratch and check if it happens again.

Darkpaw
03-05-2007, 06:33 PM
No, sorry, Basche's is Foe: party leader's target Attack, but the other is the same. And Ashe's if Foe: nearest visible Attack. I huess it might just be a bug...it's annoying. I've treated them for confuse but it still happens...

pimpedoutgeese
03-05-2007, 09:38 PM
Sounds like to me its a gambit issue to me.... I would turn all gambits off if you can't find WHICH gambit is doing that. See if it happens still. Make sure that none off your attack gambits have "ally:" in it... that might be it... but dunno


Could just be a bug :D

Ultimadream
03-05-2007, 11:10 PM
Hey Im in The Stilshrine of Miriam and im on the bit where you rotate the statue.....so what way do i rotate it and where do i go afterwards?

Help would be deeply appreciated,i need to get back ito the story of FFXII after training for 10 hours :(

Neg
03-05-2007, 11:20 PM
You have to rotate them towards the center of the shrine. For the first one (in the Walk of Prescience), you can see straight down the room into the center chamber with the collossus (big statue with the sword). So turn the statue once, so that it is facing the collossus. The next one (in the Walk of Reason) requires two turns; turning him to the north on your mini-map will get the job done. The final statue is located in the chamber past Vinuskar (in the Ward of Steel). Turn that statue to the West on your mini-map.

After that the Collossus will raise the sword and you will want to head into the Ward of the Sword-King and under the sword.

Edit: Sorry if those are spoilers :(

Ultimadream
03-05-2007, 11:26 PM
lol well i didnt realise there were 2 :S so you face it so its facing towrads the cnert of the shrine and when the eyes light up pink and the platform the statues on has a line of pink around the figure lighting up,am i
right?

Neg
03-05-2007, 11:27 PM
That sounds right to me. But there are 3 statues, not 2.

Ultimadream
03-05-2007, 11:32 PM
ah i see it on the map that i got that should all be dandy now thanks for thee help.

**Ive now done it and im now fighting the boss**

Agent0042
03-06-2007, 02:11 AM
Darkpaw --- your issue is really weird. I would definitely recommend Pimped's advice. If that doesn't work, start from scratch. Rid all of your characters of Gambits and try again. That's the only thing I can think of.

Seedle_The_Wicked
03-07-2007, 12:39 AM
how do you create a Durandal? And where can i find a creature w/ orichalcum and a Lv. 99 red chocobo?

Neg
03-07-2007, 12:52 AM
I answered the Orichalcum and Durandal questions in your original thread, Seedle and there is a thread about 99 Red linked in the forum charter, if I recall correctly.

Edit: Nope, it isn't in the forum charter. It's here (Thread 35174). Don't post on it though. If you still have questions, ask them here in the Q & A.

HazZen
03-08-2007, 06:48 PM
OK I have a question.


I decided to trek through the Feywood and I got to one area of the map and went in but it wouldn't let me through. I can't remember what it said, but something about the mist being too dense through this area for me to advance. How do I get through to this area? What is this area?

Ceidwad
03-08-2007, 06:52 PM
Is there any way at my point in the game to get Ethers quickly and reliably? I'm going through Golmore Jungle and am stuck on the Elder Wyrm. I'm pretty confident I could beat it if I had enough Ethers (I have 2 at the moment) but it would be pretty tedious trekking the Ozmone Plain trying to get enough Ethers. I'd say about 5-6 would be enough. Can you buy them or steal them from enemies in the vicinity?

Neg
03-08-2007, 08:03 PM
Is there any way at my point in the game to get Ethers quickly and reliably? I'm going through Golmore Jungle and am stuck on the Elder Wyrm. I'm pretty confident I could beat it if I had enough Ethers (I have 2 at the moment) but it would be pretty tedious trekking the Ozmone Plain trying to get enough Ethers. I'd say about 5-6 would be enough. Can you buy them or steal them from enemies in the vicinity?

You can buy them in the Necrohol. But I doubt you're leveled to get in and out without a scratch. If you are however, by all means snag the Zodiac Spear if you're still eligible for it, while you're at it.

For details on any of this, let me know. Otherwise, you're not going to be buying ethers :sad:

Edit: This will teach me to read more carefully. There is a chest with an ether in the Needlebreak. It respawns. Use that one.

Ceidwad
03-08-2007, 08:26 PM
My levels are about 20-24, so I doubt I could get into the Necrohol. Furthermore, I haven't been there and don't know where it is, so that's a no go unfortunately.

Where is the Needlebreak? Is it anywhere near Ozmone Plains?

Cheers for the help by the way.

Neg
03-08-2007, 09:43 PM
My levels are about 20-24, so I doubt I could get into the Necrohol. Furthermore, I haven't been there and don't know where it is, so that's a no go unfortunately.

Where is the Needlebreak? Is it anywhere near Ozmone Plains?

Cheers for the help by the way.

The Needlebreak is the first section of Golmore Jungle. The 3 chests are in the area behind the barriers. You can get through them if you've been fighting Elder Wyrm.

pimpedoutgeese
03-08-2007, 10:05 PM
OK I have a question.


I decided to trek through the Feywood and I got to one area of the map and went in but it wouldn't let me through. I can't remember what it said, but something about the mist being too dense through this area for me to advance. How do I get through to this area? What is this area?

That's right before the boss fight in the Feywood... not too sure of the name of it though, has a nasty attack. Um, when I played I kept going even though it said the mist was too dense... then the next thing I know there was a boss fight. Anyone who has time could ya check into that... gotta head to work

Neg
03-08-2007, 10:07 PM
So, I've been trying to get a Yagyu Darkblade from Bombshell in Lhusu. Now, you can chain him, but it is quite involved and it's still difficult to me at lvl 67(P)/56. Have any of you guys been chaining to get the following?:

Grand Armor from Helvinek
Grand Helm from Tower
Danjuro from Larva Eater

I'm thinking the best idea is just to put off doing it til everyone is 99. I could pull it off with Bombshell but it's pretty nervewracking, and I can only chain him to maybe 8 or 9, cause my MP craps out on me eventually.

Agent0042
03-08-2007, 11:56 PM
Mmm, I feel you. Did you ever wish you could just set up like several sets of Gambits and switch them on the fly, to tailor your fighting style based on what type of monsters / bosses you're facing? That would have been the shit.

Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 12:08 AM
Quick Question:
On Phon Coast at The Vaddu Strand, theres loads of treasure chests,i find this very peculiar,does anyone know if theres a trick to do with these chests like a certain orer you ahev to open them in or leave them to later etc.?

Neg
03-09-2007, 12:09 AM
Quick Question:
On Phon Coast at The Vaddu Strand, theres loads of treasure chests,i find this very peculiar,does anyone know if theres a trick to do with these chests like a certain orer you ahev to open them in or leave them to later etc.?

If you want the Zodiac Spear don't touch a single one of them!!

Edit: Those, as well as two other sets of chests (in Rabanastre Palace and the Confiscatory in Nalbina Dungeons), plus the one in front of Old Dalan's house are what determine if you get the Zodiac Spear. You cannot have opened any of them if you want the Spear to be in the treasure room of the Necrohol of Nabudis.

There's a thread about it linked in the forum charter, but I just wanted to get the "don't touch those" message up as quick as I could, for ya Ultimadream ;) That is if you haven't touched the other chests :sad:

Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 12:17 AM
I havent touched them boxes i was cat catious about them ,but im not sure about the other 2 locations di they both have 12 treasure chests lined in 4 chests and 4 rows.

Is there a way to check at the moment, ive only just got to the phon coast btw.

Neg
03-09-2007, 12:28 AM
Unfortunately, the only way to check is to make a run into the Necrohol, and if you can get in to check it, you might as well escape with it as well.

The 2 chests in Rabanastre palace are near the first area where you enter from Garamsythe; the place with all the servents, etc. The confiscatory is in Nalbina Dungeon where you got your weapons and items back. There were only three chests in there.

Both of those areas are one time visits, so no way to know if you can't personally remember. Old Dalan's is the easiest place to know, because everyone I talk to always get so upset when I quiz them about it. That's always the first one I ask about, and it's almost always opened.

No one ever said the Zodiac Spear methodology was fair in XII. You have to go against the usual behavior of opening chests, and who's going to do that if you don't have a guide right off the bat? There's always second playthroughs.

Hynad
03-09-2007, 12:32 AM
There's one chest right in front of Dalan's place, an other in the Rabanastre Royal Palace (in the crowded room where you get some help to sneak past the guard), one in the Nalbina dungeon (in the room where you get all your stuff back and the last one is at the phon coast.

Neg
03-09-2007, 12:35 AM
There's one chest right in front of Dalan's place, an other in the Rabanastre Royal Palace (in the crowded room where you get some help to sneak past the guard), one in the Nalbina dungeon (in the room where you get all your stuff back and the last one is at the phon coast.

So the one's in Rabanastre and Nalbina are really only tied to 1 chest each? The guide says not to touch any of the chests in those areas. Better safe than sorry ;)

Revaninja
03-09-2007, 12:37 AM
Yes because no one is quite too sure which chest does it so they just say don't touch to save you wasted time.

Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 12:38 AM
i bet i opened the one in Nalbina dungeon meh oh well,i wasnt planning on playing through this game once anyway.

btw where is Necrohol is it a place ive been to before the Phon Coast i havent past the phon coast and i obviously dont want to read spoilers

Neg
03-09-2007, 12:42 AM
Sounds right to me, Reva.

So, does anyone know if the "final" room in Lhusu Mines (Site 7) is used for anything? I mean, it's at the end of the final section, it has a save crystal outside it.

Any relevence?

Edit: Ultima, it's actually where you just left. Defeat the King Bomb in Salikawood and then you'll have access to the area leading to the Necrohol.

Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 12:47 AM
Bomb King..... i dont remember seeing a Bomb King Where abouts In Salikawood's is the Bomb King?

Neg
03-09-2007, 12:50 AM
You know where the Teleport Crystal is? Take the Exit right next to it, leading to the Northwest; the one the moogle is standing in front of.

Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 01:02 AM
Ah thats easy,ill just use a Teleport Crystal then ^_^ is it a difficult battle? My characters are around Levels 35 - 45 and are doing very well on the Licence Board :)

Neg
03-09-2007, 01:10 AM
Hmm...well here's the rub: King Bomb has an annoying special trick up his sleeve.

35-45 should be okay. I did it around 50, if I recall correctly.

If you can't take him down, just ask us. I think you'll be able to figure it out though.

Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 01:49 AM
Ive beatten the Bomb King good old Balthier and Mateus

Im in the Necrohol

Revaninja
03-09-2007, 02:29 AM
K- if I remember right and are reading your post right that should be the Gilgamesh fight. Which keys do you have there are two of them one you get from the Elite mark Antlion and then the other after Antlion is complete next to the Fallen Bhujerban Man.

All of the Lhusu mine areas have an Elite Hunt near them Rocktortise in the first, Antlion in the second, and Gilgamesh at the third and final one.

Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 02:37 AM
So Where is this Zodiac Spear in Necrohol

Map of Necrohol (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/459841/45482)

Is it Where it says "16 Special Chests"?

Neg
03-09-2007, 02:53 AM
So Where is this Zodiac Spear in Necrohol

Map of Necrohol (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/459841/45482)

Is it Where it says "16 Special Chests"?

That is correct, sir. They are arranged 4 x 4. The spear is the second one up, in the column closest to the door. The rest are Knots of Rust w/o the Diamond Armlet, and Dark Matter with it equipped.

The chance of getting it is 100% w/o the armlet. According to the guide, if you open it with the Armlet you'll get a Dark Matter. That could be a mistake, but I honestly don't know.

Interesting Note: When you get the spear the chest in front of Old Dalan's disappears, while the one's on the Phon Coast remain. I'm in Phon Coast myself, and I just checked and they are still there.

EDIT: Reva, I've got both keys, I have access to the entire mine. I had a feeling it had something to do with Gilgamesh. That hunt's called Battle on the Big Bridge so I thought it would be on one of the "spans," but I just read that he runs deeper into the mine after your first encounter, so that must be where you finish him off.

Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 03:00 AM
Im right at the 16 chest,i just waled through at paused it...im being chsed be an evil monster so i dotn have much time which chest did you say it was.

Btw whats the sign that the zodiac Spear isnt there,with out checking every chest.

do you mean second row in or 2nd chest from left to right?

Neg
03-09-2007, 03:03 AM
Okay, as soon as you enter the "door" you'll see the first row of chests right in front of you--as you're entering from the side.

It's the second one from the left. If you open it and it's a Knot of Rust, you've missed the spear.

Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 03:08 AM
AUURGH it wasnt there! ah well **shruggs shoulders**

Whats this rumour i hear of getting it in The Hennie Mines?

Neg
03-09-2007, 03:11 AM
My sincere apologies :sad:

There's still another way to get it. Check the linked thread in the forum charter. It's a pain in the arse, though. 1% chance. The thread explains that mindbogglingly small percentage.

Ultimadream
03-09-2007, 03:18 AM
Thanks for the Help though its been appreciated

Your a very respectable Member of this forum

Neg
03-09-2007, 03:30 AM
Thank you, Ultima :)

You are as well :D

Olde
03-09-2007, 06:47 AM
I've got a couple questions. What's the purpose of the Nihapaloah (sp?)? It reverses effects of recovery items, so is it like an all-time Reverse status?

Also, the Cat-ear hood doesn't seem to raise any speed or celerity for my characters. What does that do, too?

Revaninja
03-09-2007, 07:49 AM
Cat-ear is a constant haste.
While Nihapaloah if you use a remendy on a monster you can afflict every status on the enemy. It changes everything like Blind into a eye drop effect. I also think but I am not sure it can make attacks heal though I am not 100% postive.

Olde
03-09-2007, 07:52 AM
Okay. Thanks. I like that Remedy + Nihapaloah idea.

J. Peterman
03-09-2007, 08:43 AM
Actually, I think the Cat-Ear Hood is just supposed to increase your Speed by 50 and Vitality by 20, which should be a big boost and increase damage from knives and whatever other weapons use speed in factoring in damage.

Pretty sure.

Neg
03-09-2007, 01:09 PM
Actually, I think the Cat-Ear Hood is just supposed to increase your Speed by 50 and Vitality by 20, which should be a big boost and increase damage from knives and whatever other weapons use speed in factoring in damage.

Pretty sure.

You'd better believe Penelo is getting one of those badboys when they go on sale at the Clan store. Those statistics are correct Dr. Crane. I can't speak to whether it actually provides you with auto-haste.

Niho + Remedy & Niho + Phoenix Down are very easy to abuse. You may want to lay off it if you feel like playing it straight. Rare Game are usually immune, though :( I haven't tried it on any bosses.

Remember to switch it out after you hit the enemy. You'll quickly be suprised at why your entire party is staying dead, even though you're throwing Phoenix Downs :shock:. It's easier to forget than you may think.

Neo Xzhan
03-09-2007, 01:18 PM
I messed the Niho + Remedy/Phoenix Down up a few times. Vaan had it during a boss fight (yes bosses are immume to Niho + Phoenix Down, Remedies work depending on what status ailments they are NOT immume to).

Neg
03-09-2007, 01:48 PM
I messed the Niho + Remedy/Phoenix Down up a few times. Vaan had it during a boss fight (yes bosses are immume to Niho + Phoenix Down, Remedies work depending on what status ailments they are NOT immume to).

Now, Gil Snapper, he's special. He's immune to Niho + Phoenix Down, but Niho + Elixir = Goodbye Gil Snapper. I've tried the Elixir trick on other Rare Game as well. No go.

Neo Xzhan
03-09-2007, 01:53 PM
I find the Elixir trick useless, since indeed, only Gil Snapper is affected by it as far as I know up to this point. I find it useless because it's freaking expensive to throw Elixirs at bosses/fiends in general. They're too hard to come by to just throw away. Apart from the fact that it's cheap =).

DeathShining
03-09-2007, 03:50 PM
Actually, I think the Cat-Ear Hood is just supposed to increase your Speed by 50 and Vitality by 20, which should be a big boost and increase damage from knives and whatever other weapons use speed in factoring in damage.

Pretty sure.

You are correct Frasier Crane.

It is Hermes Sandals that gives you haste constantly when equipped not cat ear hood.

Revaninja
03-09-2007, 11:11 PM
Oops my bad sorry about that.

Mr Jack
03-12-2007, 03:09 PM
Ive not been totally devoted to this game since i got it, so bare with me!

I want to know if there is a specific way of defeating the boss on an airship. **Damn - i cant even remeber where i am!!!**

I think i am in an airship, and i have to navigate through a whole bunch of corridors with laser beams across them. But once i get to where im supposed to be, i get killed because my characters are quite weak.

Also - do you get anything special for killchains, i know they improve items, but i got a 50 killchain on this airship and it did pretty much nothing! - and then i died, so ill have to do that all over again!! Damn!.

Hynad
03-12-2007, 03:26 PM
The Cat-ear Hood only improves your speed stat by 50 and your vitality by 20. Which is good to mix with a character under the haste spell...

Add berserk to this... Bravery... and a sword like Tournesol (for damage and the Evasion bonus for the lack of shield) or use a Ninja Sword to create longer combos (although I don't really like them because they all have the Dark element in them) ... and you're up for some really short boss fights...

Mr Jack: Long kill Chains will improve the loot from the monster you slain. They will end up dropping rarer items. You also get a Sky Pirate's Den figurine after reaching the 50 mark.

pimpedoutgeese
03-12-2007, 05:49 PM
Um... Airship? You mean before you fight Judge Ghis? If that's the spot and you have 3 Quickenings, just blast him while the other two Judges are around... should make quick work of the boss if your good at Quickens.

Also I think you answer your own question, if your characters are weak you know what time it is.. meet you at the gym =)

Revaninja
03-12-2007, 05:51 PM
Okay Jack you are on the Leviathan and are facing Ghis. The way to win is first get your characters up to Level 23 or so put in Fran make sure she is level 23 or close to it and slap someone with Nethicite. Equip your best equips for your characters and weapons. Now Fran will start this battle Berserked if you have her with a Bow she can do some serious damage with little Damage to herself. First Target the Guards get rid of them then focous on Ghis Heal and Hack away. That should do it I urge you to set up Ally less than 60% Potion for this battle since Fran can't cast and neither will your other be able to with the Nethicite.

Also for the Kill chain is best in the Yensa sandsea it is easy to kill the Guys walking around in that area forget their name up to 50 and more. In fact a rare game is about that if you kill 100 of them the Exiled ones will show up that isn't their name but it is how I think of them to clairify. Though I would wait a few levels like 60 or so before trying them.

EDIT- Quickenings are nice but don't rely on them they drain your magic to Nil and you have to be REALLY good to take down the latter bosses with them. Best used to take a Large chunck of health out really quickly. Prime example is Bomb king you have to use the Quickenings before Half health and hope you do it good enough to win.

Neg
03-12-2007, 11:08 PM
Nelzar wanted to know about the medallions for the Necrohol, so here we go:

The first thing you have to do is near the beginning of the game, after you return from Barhiem. Complete the Waterway Haunting hunt and claim the reward. Deeg, the Seeq will be in the residence at the North End of Lowtown's North Sprawl. Speak to him, and grab the Dusty Letter from the table. Speak to him again. Then, later, complete the Lost in the Pudding Hunt. Sorbet, the petitioner, will reward you with the Sluice Gate Key.

Dull Fragment:

Head into the Garamsythe Waterway with your new key. Open all of the gates (all of the lights on the floor will be off).

Close Gate #11
Close Gate #4
Open Gate #11
Close Gate #3
Open Gate #4

Walk around to Gate #3 and search the ground. You'll get a visual reaction after opening Gate #4, and the fragment will be shining on the ground.

Blackened Fragment:

Complete the Crime and Punishment Hunt. You'll recieve it as the reward.

Grimy Fragment:

At this point you will "officially" begin the side-quest. There is a Nu Mou in the first area of the Nabreus Deadlands. Speak to him and then head to Old Dalan's house. There will be another Nu Mou. Speak to him and turn over the fragments you already have.

*Find Filo in the SE corner of Lowtown's South Sprawl
*Find the Curious woman in the Southern plaza of Rabanastre.
*Head to Muthru Bazaar and speak to the three characters labeled "merchant"
*Find the Sotted Imperial in Yugri's Magicks
*Find Kytes by Warehouse #5
*Find Filo in the same place as before
*Agree to go with Filo and Kytes to Yugri's Magicks
*Talk to the Imperial for a scene and the Fragment

Turn the fragment over to the Nu Mou at Old Dalan's house and head to Archades.

Moonsilver Medallion:

*Speak to the Nu Mou in Charlotte's Magickery
*Find Otto in the NE corner of the alley of Muted Sighs
*Return the medallion to the Nu Mou

The Medallion of Might:

Head back to the Muted Scarp (in the Deadlands) and speak to the Nu Mou. Then proceed through the secret path in the NW corner of the Slumbermead. Follow this path through two sections to a shrine in the Overlooking Eternity section. There you will recieve all 3 medallions.

From there, just head into the Necrohol and have at the sealed doors.

Nelzar
03-12-2007, 11:12 PM
thanks man, much appreciated!

Egg
03-12-2007, 11:53 PM
I still can't beat the game. :l
I have Deathbringer and The Demon Shield on my best character. I know there are better weapons/sheilds.

Where do I find them??

Revaninja
03-13-2007, 02:56 AM
You make them in the Bazaar I think the Requirments have already been posted. Also Try to level up and try to make better Gambits. If you are roughly level 50 you should be able to win with a little bit of work.

Neg
03-13-2007, 03:08 AM
You make them in the Bazaar I think the Requirments have already been posted

Yes, they have (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=762639&postcount=402). Also, Excalibur can be found in the Great Crystal, and the Ultima Blade can be found in the Pharos, to name just a few.

pimpedoutgeese
03-13-2007, 04:43 AM
Quickenings are nice but don't rely on them they drain your magic to Nil and you have to be REALLY good to take down the latter bosses with them. Best used to take a Large chunck of health out really quickly. Prime example is Bomb king you have to use the Quickenings before Half health and hope you do it good enough to win.

I agree with ya there... I just figured early in the game with a 4-5 Quicken it would kill him off... I did it with 4 and a few more slashes did the job.. but honestly I rarely use quickens except early on

Hynad
03-13-2007, 05:41 AM
Yeah, because as you advance in the game, the quickenings won't kill the bosses in a single chain, so you end up with no MP to back you up after that.

the guy watching you
03-13-2007, 07:17 AM
what is the best equip combination to use to get the highest amount of physical damage?

Revaninja
03-13-2007, 07:42 AM
The BEST is the axes/Hammers but they are iffy since the Damage is either great or low one or the other and usually low. The truly best stuff is the Bows, Great swords such as Tournesol and Ragnork, and the Sword Shield combo. Or at least that is what I found works best.

Really it is each players style that brings out the best or worst of the weapons and equip. Say you want a lot of Attack combos which can all totaled have a bigger effect then even the Zodiac spear then the combonation would be Masamune and Genji glove. While Masamune only has I think 95 attack it has a better chance then norm to combo add in the Genji glove and it is possible to Max out on the combos I think 15 times or so I only did it once aganist Behemoth King. The Accesories Armor and the weapon you chose plus your attack style truly tell you what makes a good combo of equips.

Lets take Ashe I gave her High mystic equip, Bubble belt, Ageis shield, and Durandal. She was a Mage killer since the Mystic boosted her ability to surivive Magic the shield let her dodge ALOT of magic nearly 50-50 the belt helped her survive the stuff that she did get hit with and Durandal let her do a good chunck of damage each hit. In short she was a Character who was best as a Mage knight and I sculpted and used her as such.

How you play who you play and what you have really determines what is the best equipment to use there is no BEST just the Ultimates for each type like Ultimate Blade, Zodiac spear, Masamune and several others whose names I can't spell right now. So in the end what you like is what is the best.

Mr Jack
03-13-2007, 01:15 PM
Thanx Revaninja, though i went home before i read your comment and managed to do it on my fourth try!

I did find some scary thoughts in your comments though, mainly - how the hell were you at level 23 by the time of the Leviathan, mine were only on 10/11, - i guess i just havent being paying enough attention to the game overall, but still, is there any particular way that you have been leveling up, or were you just suppremely bored?

More to the point, though my last effort was half-hearted, im now at the Garuda stage and by god am i struggling. Any tips? (by any tips? - i mean throughout the game aswell, such as how to level up easierly, what abilities are best to go for, and how the hell do you get more money.)

EDIT - Also - im incredebly stuck with quickenings and nobody seems to be able to explain it too me, in short - How the fuck do you cast one, when i cast one, it goes so fast, i end up holing R1 or R2 (whichever), but what am i supposed to be doing?

Revaninja
03-13-2007, 05:05 PM
Actually I misspoke I was thinking where you are now and got confused you will see why soon enough. But no I was level 15 I rememeber when I fought Ghis and I as a rule clear out areas to better explore and level at least I did till a little later on.

The best thing to do is Level up till you are Level 23-25 or so not because of Garuda but a later nasty monster. Go back to Sandsea and kill monsters till you are near level 20ish or so and you should have no prob.

Now a tip or trick here is a simiple one first after you gain entrance to Raithwall's tomb SAVE. Then go in when you are near level 25 or so fight the first DemonWall and kill it don't run away. After you kill it go back out and SAVE. Then go through the door you were suppouse to. There will be a Second DemonWall kill it the first was the most powerful so if you can kill the first you shouldn't have too much trouble. Now go Save again. Now you are ready go back to where the first Demonwall was you will see a glittering jewel touch it. Staircases will open up go down which ever side and follow them you will have to fight some monsters but it is not too bad. You should come to a point where the 2 paths meet there should be a sword laying on a pedstal if not do a Soft rest or go back to the beginning and try again. This is repetable so you can get as many as you want. The sword is the Demonslayer sword and you will be Kicking ass and taking names for AWHILE with it equipped. Also there is a trick for the Deathbringer which is one of the last swords in the game in Barheim Passage though I have never done it so you will need someone else to do it.

Now as for what to get with Lp first you should clear everything up to at least 2 levels above your choosen equipment for the character if say you are on heavyarmor 2 have Heavyarmor 4 and so forth. Spend Lp in accesrories, Spells, techs, and the best part Augments which can make measly potions heal you ALOT more so easier on the purse strings. As for Money sell the loot which High Kill chains help with some you get squat some you get alot it really depends on the loot. Also do the Hunts it gives alot of Cash as a norm but also you can pick up rare Equipment or pick it up before it normally becomes avabile on the market. You might want to get the Monographs talk to all merchants at least 30 or so times and examine the hunt board 50 times to get them. They are pricey but usefull since they each help a ceratin Monster type drop loot which is the better investment in the long run.

For quickenings first you are probably still on Level one quickenings at this point in the game and maybe only one or 2 people with it so you won't get much till 3 characters in active party with it or some level 2s. Now don't hold down R2 TAP it this will cause a shuffle and maybe getting one of 2 things Mist charge or a Quickenings. Mist charge means the gauge will fill for that character so you get a Quickening it still takes up time but it is assured unlike shuffle. When you do a Quickening you add time to your timer so do it fast and you have a better chances of combos. Now later on when you get all Active Party memebers level 2 quickenings it will be a lot easier you will also want to be picky in what you choose. You see something called a Concurence or as I dubb it a Final blow happens if you combo enough quick Levels and amount right. The formula is in the charter so go look for it there. Quickenings are not the end all though just to be clear even if you get really good they can not kill a later on boss by themselves anyone who tells you differently is a fool. They can help espically aganist bosses like Bomb King and Ultimatia but in the end you have to be careful since a use of them drains all Mp for that particular character up to the level used, you will know what I mean after you get level 2 quickenings, since later on fights it is easier to cast healing magics then to keep a supply of the level of potion needed.

Mr Jack
03-13-2007, 05:20 PM
Thanx for that, ill keep all that in mind!

Most of that made sense to me apart from the quickenings, though that will all probably come with time.

I too try and make it a rule to explore the whole place and level up, though i had a bit of trouble with the sandsea, i managed to get a good kill chain of about 70 or so, and then i came across a big fiery monster that cast firaga on all my party, of course i ran like the wind! I think its a shame that there arent more save points in the sand sea part as its a long a tedious area and there are not a lot of opportunities to recover (contrary to what is said in the mini FMV "try to rest whenever you get tired")

I shall go back to the Sandsea and level a bit more no doubt i will be back tommorow with more Q's!!!! -

ALSO - how do i claim my reward for killing that turtle like monster eater?, it was mentioned to me that if i kill it, i would get some treasure, all ive had so far was a pain in the ass!

Agent0042
03-13-2007, 06:32 PM
Sounds to me like you encountered an Entite. The best thing to do is just stay away from those things for the time being. And don't cast any magicks or anything near them.

As for the turtle-like monster, if you're thinking of what I think you're thinking of, the reward is an item called "Eskir Berries." You have head back over towards the save crystal where the moogle is and then just past that, you'll trigger a scene with a rogue Yensan, then you go back to the save crystal area and you'll get another scene and then the berry will be blooming. It's useful against garuda, which is at the Tomb you're heading to, though if you've already done that, there's no point in bothering.

Revaninja
03-13-2007, 06:37 PM
That one I have no idea I have the same question about the eater.

There is a Save point near the bottom of the map that switches from the 2 Sandseas I found it while doing Monster list fill ins. In fact that Save point is the Teleport Crystal of the area might help abit.

The monster you are talking about that nearly killed you is an Entite VERY dangerous. Wait until level 40ish or so before taking them on. They give good rewards though stuff like Halycons and Electrum which helps you get some of the more powerful stuff from the Bazaar.

As for Quickenings just tap R2 and look for White highlighted names and you should figure it out fast enough.

Agent0042
03-13-2007, 06:43 PM
Mr Jack, about the Quickenings, just look at the forum charter. I've got threads linked there giving good information about that --- it should hopefully answer your questions.

pimpedoutgeese
03-14-2007, 01:55 AM
MUCH PROPS to you if you passed the Garuda without the Eskir Berries especially at that level... I didn't really know about the berries and I tried fighting that bird and I kept getting toasted, I turned around to level and I triggered the scene with the rogue, man was I happy when I killed that thing

I tried the Entite's at about 45 still kinda gave me trouble, but thats based on equipment, also I think the max combo is 12, I read that somewhere

Gotta question about that trick Reva, if you soft reset without saving how does it save your sword so you can have more then one, or maybe you do save... I'm a dunce who can't figure it out.

Revaninja
03-14-2007, 03:12 AM
No the soft reset is for if you don't get the sword if you get the sword just go back SAVE then try again if you want for more. Also you don't have to do the Soft reset just go back out and then try again. I got it on my first try so I don't know how hard it is to get but I do know it can be done.

Agent0042
03-14-2007, 03:13 AM
I think he just means that if the sword is there, then you go back and save and then you can go the soft reset and go get another one. If the sword isn't there, then you don't go back to save, obviously, you just soft reset right then and there.

pimpedoutgeese
03-14-2007, 08:27 AM
Yea, just give me my DUNCE hat, thanks, I'll wear it with pride

Mr Jack
03-14-2007, 10:44 AM
Yeah - figured the "Entity's" were kinda dangerous!!

Ive explored pretty much all areas of the Sandsea now, ive still not found those berries Agent was talking about but i have defeated Garuda, you were right, all it took was a bit of levelling up ( by a bit - i mean i stopped up most of the night!!!) I saved just before entering the temple and i will continue on to get the sword ravaninja was talking about later today!.

Many thanks for getting me past this part!! Do you think it will be worth going back for the berry thingies?? - Also, while exploring the sandsea, i found a litle cavern, it had two rooms in it that were blocked off by a sand-waterfall...is there any way of getting into those rooms??

One other q...i am a "moppet" - a) what the heck is that and b) if it is what i think it is, how do i progress?

Nymph
03-14-2007, 11:36 AM
One other q...i am a "moppet" - a) what the heck is that and b) if it is what i think it is, how do i progress?

"Moppet" is your clan rank. Moppet is the lowest, obviously, as you start out as one.
At that point in the game, you should've been introduced to Clan Centurio already. As you complete marks (check the notice board in, for example, 'the Sandsea' in Rabanastre) and collect clan points (by defeating monsters), your rank moves up. The higher your clan rank, the better goodies you can buy at the Muthru Bazaar in Rabanastre! ;)

Mr Jack
03-14-2007, 01:10 PM
ooohhh, well i havent being paying much attention to the board as of yet, but the next opportunity i get!!

Revaninja
03-14-2007, 05:20 PM
All towns have a board and you should get a go up a rank or 2 after a hunt. Montblanc gives out treasure to you usually gil as well in the Muthur Bazaar in Rabanastre there is the clan shop which will sell you ALOT of neat stuff like Hi-potions long before your time though for some strange reason they stop after a bit don't know why they just do. Also Teleport stones are sold after a ceratin rank which will allow you to use the Teleport save cyrstals alot easier they normally get dropped as Loot or later in the Port you can buy them from a Merchant. It is a good idea to increase your Clan rank just for the Shop items which can help big time.

The 2 rooms with Sand waterfalls are avabile tell later someone will talk about how Zatreina-Sp?- Caverns has been discovered that is when those Sandwaterfalls go away. The monsters in there are 30-40ish in level and will normally kick your keaster from one side to the next one you first find it. It is a good place to level espically if you come in from Rabanastre side since the monsters start a little easier. Now if you do go exploring be careful there is an Esper Ardlemech-Sp I know its wrong- he is powerful because he flys and has an unending supply of zombies I think level 35 or so should be enough but I am not sure since I was overleveled and came across him.

DeathShining
03-15-2007, 11:46 PM
Does anyone know where to get these sheilds and armor from???

Zodiac Escutcheon

Ensanguined Sheild

Brave Suit

Revaninja
03-16-2007, 02:38 AM
Zodiac is some where in the Great cyrstal near Ultimatia

Ensanguined I got in the Ice field before Giruvegan with Bangle on.

Brave suit I am not sure but I think it is in Pharos underground somewhere sorry.

shanara
03-16-2007, 02:13 PM
Hey all, new here etc.

Bit of advice please.
My main team is Vaan (lv35) Fran (lv32) and Basch (lv32) I'v just come back from Stilshire and I decided to do a few marks and no matter how hard I try, I keep getting owned by Maralith (sp)
I'v done all of the other Marks up to rank III and some of the rank IV and V too but I cant seem to kill him... Not sure why.Vaan is my tank with the Deathbringer, Golden shield and Gauntlets equipted as well as all the Shield blocks learnt, Fran is my Healer and Long range and Basch uses Katana's for the high combo rate.
Generally when I start a mark I spam blind until it sticks then beserk and decoy on Vaan. Maralith iirc is immune to blind and so that sucks...
Anyone got any strategies for me?
Thnaks

pimpedoutgeese
03-16-2007, 03:00 PM
Maritlith isn't immune to Blind... also you can Slow him. Don't know if you have the Nihaopaluzaa (wrong spelling so that's what I'll call it) Equip it and toss a Remedy at it. That should give it Blind, Slow, and maybe a few more nice status effecgs... also haste yourself and then do what your doing, Beserk/Decoy, eventually it'll fall.

shanara
03-16-2007, 03:51 PM
Thanks for that, havnt gotten around to buying Nihaopaluzaa yet although it is available.
I have the Gil, spose i'll buy it then!

pimpedoutgeese
03-16-2007, 07:05 PM
Yea you can get cheesy addicted to Niho/Remedy... almost effective on most mobs, there's always that few though...

Nelzar
03-17-2007, 12:00 AM
could someone please tell me what the "morbid urn" does, and is it worth the quarter million

Neg
03-17-2007, 12:15 AM
could someone please tell me what the "morbid urn" does, and is it worth the quarter million

When you buy it it will be "re-named" the Canopic Jar. It allows ALL enemies to start dropping Arcana. If you are going to synthesize the Tournesol (which I highly recommend), and you don't get your High Arcana from the Espers**, you are going to need 60 Arcana as part of the High Arcana recipe.

Also, it makes it possible to get Mimic in your Sky Pirate Den. You might have to synthesize several other weapons to snag it, but some FAQs say you only need to synthesize and purchase the Jar to get it.

So yes, totally worth it. When you're ready for specifics on the Tournesol recipe just ask.

**you can steal them during your battle with each one, with the Thief's Cuffs, but they are the rarest steal.

Nelzar
03-17-2007, 12:21 AM
hehe, looks like i gots me some saving up to do, thanks man

Neg
03-17-2007, 12:31 AM
hehe, looks like i gots me some saving up to do, thanks man

Do you have all the Grimoires? They're Monographs once you buy them, and allow you to get better loot from enemies. They also allow you to get the items highlighted in the second pages of bestiary entries, which you often need to synthesize the bazaar exclusive items.

They improve your money-making ability, which is why I bring it up.

If you don't have any or only have a few, let me know and I'll tell you how to get them. They cost between 18000-25000, but again, are worth the effort.