Django
09-03-2006, 05:04 PM
how anyone can hate hentai is just beyond me.. seriously (

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thomassjefferson
09-03-2006, 10:26 PM
LOL! Its the losers from that Zelda forum that advertised themselves awhile ago. I created an account and explained to them why it is impolite to advertise on other forums. I was banned in 4 hours and 20 mins, I dont think they have any application process for hiring mods/adim. The place is a real shithole.
I LIKE YOUR COMEDIC APPROACH, BUT JUST TO TELL YOU I DON'T KNOW WTF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WAS SERACHING FOR "ZELDA MATERIAL" (mostly osts) through some rapidshare search engine sites, and I found a link leading to someone talking about zelda music, here have a look you quick to say and judge without the brains to think first, person!
./t-28230.html
If you're not registered then you can't see the download links so I had to register and then go on the official forum and then look for more zelda stuff....
...and why TF would you think I was advertising something, if you're that ignoranus to think that me saying the word zelda or having a colored font somehow relates to all that you said above then you're thrwoing some of the cheapest come back attention wanting marks, since the documented flapping of the mouth of one of the famous Attention-Whores, Paris Hilton. lol
no offense, and I'd rather be friends ~:angel:
Valerie Valens
09-03-2006, 10:43 PM
I dunno who you are, but I like you already. Love the paris hilton bashing. ^^
Van Finel
09-04-2006, 01:58 AM
I LIKE YOUR COMEDIC APPROACH, BUT JUST TO TELL YOU I DON'T KNOW WTF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WAS SERACHING FOR "ZELDA MATERIAL" (mostly osts) through some rapidshare search engine sites, and I found a link leading to someone talking about zelda music, here have a look you quick to say and judge without the brains to think first, person!
./t-28230.html
If you're not registered then you can't see the download links so I had to register and then go on the official forum and then look for more zelda stuff....
...and why TF would you think I was advertising something, if you're that ignoranus to think that me saying the word zelda or having a colored font somehow relates to all that you said above then you're thrwoing some of the cheapest come back attention wanting marks, since the documented flapping of the mouth of one of the famous Attention-Whores, Paris Hilton. lol
no offense, and I'd rather be friends ~:angel:
Nice rebuttle and welcome to FFS
thomassjefferson
09-04-2006, 03:41 AM
OMG WTF! LOL!
http://www.picturetrunk.com/2006/09032006/e6572b0f2e.gif
That was some funny shit, nice anime chick pic Django
http://www.picturetrunk.com/2006/09032006/9e72df48cb.gif
I dunno who you are, but I like you already. Love the paris hilton bashing. ^^
Nice rebuttle and welcome to FFS
Yup, thanks fellas...
http://www.picturetrunk.com/2006/09032006/9e72df48cb.gif
Machiavelli
09-04-2006, 03:59 AM
I stand corrected, and I would much rather be sitting. /wrists
thomassjefferson
09-04-2006, 06:20 AM
I stand corrected, and I would much rather be sitting. /wrists
Eh what the hell, peace
http://www.picturetrunk.com/2006/09032006/9e72df48cb.gif
secret7
09-04-2006, 04:02 PM
Hentai is a form of emotional expression.The feelings of unition can be felt through two character(or more) that were created/drawn by humans.The hentai creators has emotion and feelings that they want to share through hentai with readers so hating hentai is like standing up against their rights to express emotions and feelings...:((
Anyone can watch and not watch hentai...The hentai creators won't be sad, they'll just lose some money...:))
Denny
09-04-2006, 04:14 PM
Hentai is a form of emotional expression.The feelings of unition can be felt through two character(or more) that were created/drawn by humans.The hentai creators has emotion and feelings that they want to share through hentai with readers so hating hentai is like standing up against their rights to express emotions and feelings...:((
Anyone can watch and not watch hentai...The hentai creators won't be sad, they'll just lose some money...:))
I hear murder is a form of emotional expression too. Charles Manson must be fapping it up in his cell tonight.
ligpgf
09-04-2006, 04:28 PM
Well there are some hentai that really are DISGUSTING (tentacles and monsters etc) ...there other that are based more on the story and are great (even if you don't watch them for this reason :-P)
~Sakura~
09-05-2006, 01:52 PM
I hear murder is a form of emotional expression too. Charles Manson must be fapping it up in his cell tonight.
Lol.... you are ... i dunno... loco
$IX3R
09-13-2006, 03:24 PM
If you like Naruto, go here: narutoxxx.com...Hey, I'm not a perv. I just went to this site once....Shut up.
Valerie Valens
09-13-2006, 03:52 PM
I hear murder is a form of emotional expression too. Charles Manson must be fapping it up in his cell tonight.
Only...nobody gets hurt in the production and viewing of hentai whatsoever, none.
Denny
09-13-2006, 03:54 PM
Only...nobody gets hurt in the production and viewing of hentai whatsoever, none.
Yes they do :)
What about the boy from Turkey who rid his body entirely of fuck juice. He died with balls like raisins.
Magneto42
09-13-2006, 04:31 PM
I dont really get into hentai. But i find yaoi really good, when done tastefully. :S I dont think you can find more romantic gay artwork and stuff anywhere else. All other gay pics and vids is porno...
Valerie Valens
09-13-2006, 04:44 PM
Yes they do :)
What about the boy from Turkey who rid his body entirely of fuck juice. He died with balls like raisins.
Those are extreme isolated cases where the victims are fucked up already. Besides it's his own life, he's free to take it by draining his nuts dry. :P
Murder has a 100% fatality rate though.
Black Paladin
09-13-2006, 04:46 PM
LOL, and as for yaoi Magneto....
Magneto42
09-13-2006, 05:07 PM
Yeah gotta love that yaoi.
And most hentai is pretty disturbing, but some is just too shexy. :P
Durahan7777
09-13-2006, 05:08 PM
H-Loli is best kind of hentai.
Magneto42
09-13-2006, 05:09 PM
What is H-Loli?
Black Paladin
09-13-2006, 05:13 PM
Yaoi really isn't to my tastes but you know if you like it, you like it
Calgar
09-13-2006, 06:21 PM
What is H-Loli?
Magneto42
09-13-2006, 06:23 PM
seriously, i cant find anything on the net on H-Loli, except it appears to be the name of a race horse...
Denny
09-13-2006, 06:31 PM
Those are extreme isolated cases where the victims are fucked up already. Besides it's his own life, he's free to take it by draining his nuts dry. :P
Murder has a 100% fatality rate though.
Ok buuuuut.......
What about the guy from Sweeden that ejaculated his pelvis bone?
Valerie Valens
09-13-2006, 08:27 PM
Magneto42
09-13-2006, 08:32 PM
http://img.not7chan.org/l/ NSFW
oooooooooooo kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy... is that even legal?
i pray it is. O_o.....everyday.
jewess crabcake
09-14-2006, 01:24 AM
Wow this thread has lasted suprisingly long.
Machiavelli
09-14-2006, 01:30 AM
I bestow on you the honorary title of THREAD NECROMANCER OF THE INTERNET!
jewess crabcake
09-14-2006, 01:37 AM
One this thread has been alive before I posted in it. Second honorary my ass do I look like a faggy gothic necromancer to you. *Guild Wars spoof*
Van Finel
09-14-2006, 01:47 AM
One this thread has been alive before I posted in it. Second honorary my ass do I look like a faggy gothic necromancer to you. *Guild Wars spoof*
Why do you assume all white people are either inbred or goth? Normal white people such as myself despise the inbreds and goths as much as you do
jewess crabcake
09-14-2006, 01:52 AM
Guild Wars spoof self explanatory the necromancers looked like goths because of the spikes and bones.
Van Finel
09-14-2006, 01:55 AM
Never played the game so i wouldnt know
jewess crabcake
09-14-2006, 01:56 AM
Oh well you see there's your answer play GW
Van Finel
09-14-2006, 02:13 AM
I was looking to play that but my computer lacks the RAM and I was unable to buy it.
jewess crabcake
09-14-2006, 02:16 AM
Ram not necessary, video card, mandatory found that out the hard way, the RAM just makes it run smoother.
Van Finel
09-14-2006, 02:20 AM
Yeah, but itd skip too much with the amount of RAM i have. Even Warcraft 3 can be a pain. My videocard is decent not great
jewess crabcake
09-14-2006, 02:25 AM
Hmm I want to get an alienware modem but I don't have a place that sells modems around me =/. I know what you mean I play SW:Battlefront II on pc you ever try firing a blaster rifle while lagging? uncomfortable.
Van Finel
09-14-2006, 02:27 AM
I'd get an alienware if they weren't so bloody expensive.
jewess crabcake
09-14-2006, 02:32 AM
I know but you get your money's worth. Money's not an object to me especially If it's not mine working MOMS ftw.
You definitely do not get your money's worth on an Alienware system. I did the math on it a while back and found that I could build a nearly perfect duplicate of one of their high-end systems for around $2000 less than they charge.
Magneto42
09-14-2006, 03:05 PM
Way to go off the topic of hentai. LOL
Denny
09-14-2006, 03:08 PM
HOLD ON A SECOND!
What about the girl that died when she hooked herself up to her Hentai DVD?.
You`re ALL forgeting the FACTS. I could show you graphs and pie charts that show this information.
Hex Omega
09-14-2006, 03:16 PM
You definitely do not get your money's worth on an Alienware system. I did the math on it a while back and found that I could build a nearly perfect duplicate of one of their high-end systems for around $2000 less than they charge.
Yeah, i've done similar calculations myself. Alienware, more like Rip-off.
ditto on the alienware comments.
the extra money you pay for is for labor and shipping. 2k+ for labor? fuck them.
jewess crabcake
09-15-2006, 01:52 AM
2k+ for labor? fuck them.Lol qoftm, didn't know you could build a duplicate for cheaper, wonder why they're so popular then, well not everyone might be as good at hardware modifications. They must be doing something right.
Van Finel
09-15-2006, 02:00 AM
You definitely do not get your money's worth on an Alienware system. I did the math on it a while back and found that I could build a nearly perfect duplicate of one of their high-end systems for around $2000 less than they charge.
Thanks so much for the heads up, you saved me money.
FullMetalFerret
09-16-2006, 12:30 AM
this thread is silly >.> hentai is awesome
And on the subject of alienware, fuck them, they charge for "specialising" in high-end pcs, specialising in ANYTHING means you can charge more cos youre 1337, lol, but for the same price as a top spec alienware pc you can probably get far better by hunting around for the individual components, the only advantage to using alienware is that they give you like 1-2 year cover or something similar incase your pc blows up
but as we all know its sods law that the day after the warranty expires its youre gonna see a mini mushroom cloud shoot out the back of your pc
Magneto42
09-16-2006, 12:36 AM
so yeah how bout that hentai. i wonder what GG has to say about hentai.
i really do.
Durahan7777
09-16-2006, 03:28 PM
Magneto42
09-16-2006, 03:38 PM
Thanks but i am already learned in the ways of loli. Well since that post i am.
Interesting stuff too....
Dewentor
09-17-2006, 12:08 AM
well after all i have a question for all
is there any good anime in this section?
i think arts and artists must use in another way.
Nowadays ,this thing is not rare .Just let it go .on someday ,maybe people will be tired of it.
Durahan7777
09-17-2006, 07:29 PM
Does someone like Guro-hentai???
Magneto42
09-17-2006, 07:30 PM
Does someone like Guro-hentai???
Once again. You will have to explain this one to me.
guro-hentai = gore/gory hentai.
it involves blood and guts, pain, torture, decapitations, mutilations and other things of that sort.
i personally hate it. but i do have my share of images and manga. :p just to remind me how fked the world is. lol
as long as it's a stress-reliever, I think it's fine for anybody to find whatever they want attractive. If looking at guru-hentai stops someone from actually harming someone in that way, then I can condone it.
Now, I DON'T condone the people who actually perform actions that they see when they are "out of context". When it starts to fuck with their lives, then it's a big problem.
Durahan7777
09-18-2006, 07:12 PM
Well I dont myself enjoy guro hentai.
Just want to know if someone really does.
Good thing in hentai is the wide range of types of hentai to choose from like tentacles, guro, loli, bondage bukkake and more "normal" oriented types...
Tigerofthewind
09-19-2006, 12:42 AM
Wow this is a long thread of hentai hate. Personally I like it. Not a lot but if the artwork's nice then I'll take a look. A lot of anime have been created from hentai (well mainly Bishoujo games). Popular ones such as Shuffle, Izumo, Fate/Stay Night, the list goes on. I can probably name very many if I tried but I'm tired and I have to go to a lab.
well after all i have a question for all
is there any good anime in this section?
i think arts and artists must use in another way.
You mean hentai section? In games there are very good artwork. A few good artists are Carnelian, Tony Taka, and Akira.
Tennyo
09-19-2006, 03:32 AM
This has to be one of the stupidest threads on the forum. Whether a person likes or hates hentai should be of their own discression. Stating that you hate something without giving the relative facts and reasons why you hate it other than what it is and how it's portrayed is the very basis of bias. To be bias is to be ignorant of opinion outside of the norm.
Hentai isn't a relative term for porn soft or hard core alone, by definition Hentai is not a root word for sex or any sexual contact. By nature the word means abnormality.
Nowadays the word Hentai is related to the animation depicting sex or sexual acts, Hentai isn't meant for this however it just means that it's an art form that is in all aspects of the words considered strange, weird, or out of the norm. It takes hentai to stimulate some people, yes at times Hentai can be disgusting or lack in depth realism, but if you look at it more closely it's depicting the very base nature of human contact, which is the instinct and need to reproduce.
While I don't agree with some of the instances that are used to portray these acts, (rape, tentacle porn, kidnapping and rape, drug use, or other sorts of force are against my moral standing) Hentai is no different than watching a sex-ed video about the reproductive cycle of people. I've seen worse forms of perversity in anime than hentai. Hentai doesn't come close to watching people's insides literally be blown out and painstakingly drawn in detail for the viewer to look at, and (possibly) lose their lunch over.
Who cares if anyone likes or dislikes hentai? That's THEIR business. There's a lot worse out there than watching girls and boys act like bunny rabbits. Personally I'm thankful for one form of hentai. After all if it weren't for that form of hentai, I wouldn't be here. And neither would the rest of the people complaining.
As for hentai being evil and a product of the devil? Wake up and smell the coffee, Hentai is not a product of the devil, it's a fricking artform created by people, if you want to blame evil on someone blame it on the society we live in. Hentai is timid in comparison to the stuff you see on television.
rageofaeon
09-20-2006, 11:21 AM
Hentai lol
tygerchickchibi
09-29-2006, 12:45 AM
Wow, I haven't been on this thread for a while. I just have to say...you guys are funny. ^^
J. Peterman
09-29-2006, 03:33 AM
PORN IS BAD 4 UR BODY
DO NOT EAT IT
Rock Lee
09-29-2006, 09:04 PM
Meh.Hentai is ok.........Well some of it.Not that nasty ass tentacles and rapings and all that nasty ass shit.But hey it's your opinion
thinginthetub
09-30-2006, 04:25 AM
But hentai is so fun! D: I can even say this as a female. xD I guess I just find it more amusing than... er... arousing. Gurochan = best site ever for laughs. srsly.
I mean, what's not to like about fantasy porn?
Everybody has their own opinion about hentai, what mine? I have no problem with Hentai that really has a story, if you know what I mean, what I hate is those tentacle rape hentais, they're just nasty.
Mario Kinnikuman
10-10-2006, 12:21 AM
Hentai, like pornography may be debauching, but it's a viable commodity and entertainment notwithstanding. Personally, I am ambivalent to it.
Darkfire208
10-10-2006, 01:15 AM
My friend watches it everyday. Thats the main reason why I dont watch it. IT DESTROYS YOUR LIFE. lol.
Tropy_29
10-12-2006, 09:51 PM
Meh.Hentai is ok.........Well some of it.Not that nasty ass tentacles and rapings and all that nasty ass shit.But hey it's your opinion
Hentai is awesome, but you like you said, none of that horrible shit for me.
Masaka_Naraku
10-14-2006, 06:48 PM
My friend watches it everyday. Thats the main reason why I dont watch it. IT DESTROYS YOUR LIFE. lol.
XD IT CORUPPTS YOUR MIND!
I, For one isn't a Hentai fan. It just sounds soo discusting.
What would you rather watch.Yaoi or Yuri?
mac2uk
10-19-2006, 07:38 AM
I was watching a hentai on youtube other day what had all the sex cut out and tht was good what was called "A Heat For All Seasons"
narutolost
10-22-2006, 08:55 AM
Heres what I'm wondering. Would you guys be as open talking about pornography in the real, public life?
*remembers the chatter of two students in a locker room*
...Nevermind...
tygerchickchibi
10-23-2006, 05:02 PM
Heres what I'm wondering. Would you guys be as open talking about pornography in the real, public life?
*remembers the chatter of two students in a locker room*
...Nevermind...
xD I find it rather more disgusting IRL. Cum swapping girls... >_> Ewwwwwwww.......
I mean, WTF? Who likes that shit?
xD Alright, that was just an example... I better turn this back to PG13 level...or has it gone far beyond that already?
Asuran Zala
10-24-2006, 07:27 AM
I hate hentai, not only because of the explict content, but also because it really destroys the reputation of anime.
Anime is a beautiful form of art, another way of story-telling. Ya, having said that, whenever I tell my friends I love watching anime, I get weird stares. The conclusion from this is that most non-anime watchers tend to have a misconception that equates anime to hentai, and because of that, they are disuaded from watching it.
Hentai is killing the anime fanchise, regardless of the fact it "started" the anime empire. People should be aware that hentai is pornography, and doesn't have anything to do with anime. It doesn't have a proper storyline, nor decent characterisation.
Now, don't get me wrong, I am not discriminating people who watch hentai or like it. I'm in no position to do so. I hate hentai, but I don;t necessarily hate people who watch hentai. I have to respect their views and opinions too. I just wish hentai wouldn't be so easily accessible to the young adults and children. it pollutes their mind.
Can you imgaine a generation of children growing up watching hentai? Yes, it is a rampant issue that will oneday, become a major problem.
Magester
10-24-2006, 04:23 PM
I gotta admit, they think up some pretty wierd shit in some types of hentai. It makes me wonder: Where the hell do they get their ideas from? It probably gets to a point when you say: That's not sexy any more; it's just sickening. Anyway, I'm not into it myself, but word gets around.
You're right, it's too accessible to children. Someone should do something about that. Otherwise, I am indifferent to people who look at it. Although if someone told me they watched hentai in the streets, I would back away from them sharpish.
tygerchickchibi
10-24-2006, 11:12 PM
I hate hentai, not only because of the explict content, but also because it really destroys the reputation of anime.
Anime is a beautiful form of art, another way of story-telling. Ya, having said that, whenever I tell my friends I love watching anime, I get weird stares. The conclusion from this is that most non-anime watchers tend to have a misconception that equates anime to hentai, and because of that, they are disuaded from watching it.
Hentai is killing the anime fanchise, regardless of the fact it "started" the anime empire. People should be aware that hentai is pornography, and doesn't have anything to do with anime. It doesn't have a proper storyline, nor decent characterisation.
Can you imgaine a generation of children growing up watching hentai? Yes, it is a rampant issue that will oneday, become a major problem.
>_> Tell your friends that they're extremely stupid.
Haven't they ever heard of Pokemon, One Piece, Naruto, or even Yu-Gi-Oh?
I've watched anime for 2 years before I even knew what hentai was. A lot of us who posted here know the difference between regular anime and hentai anime, so you should ask your friends how the hell they knew about hentai first, and they shouldn't be so fucking ignorant as well.
I'm serious. I know a lot of people that didn't know a specific anime series, but knew what hentai was...and knew there was a difference. There was a guy I knew that even gave me the title of the hentai series. Angel Blade.
His biggest mistake though, was assuming that Sailor Moon was originally a hentai, do to the hentai fan sites for Sailor Moon, something a friend showed him. I then had to explain to him that Sailor Moon was indeed an original anime series, and not a hentai itself. He immediately understood the difference.
I'm just saying that you can't really say that hentai is destroying anime, because it's not. Ignorance is, in your case.
Here. Brush up on your anime history! (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_anime)
Oh, and btw...
H anime is an artistic expression of pornography in Japan. As opposed to photographic pornography, they allow full use of the imagination as well as scenes that run counter to accepted society and culture. Elements of sexual fantasy are represented in ways that would be impossible to film, even with a dedicated special effects budget.
I disagree...you can always prevent access to inappropiate content to children. It's really not that difficult at all. Parents need to be more computer aware.
Asuran Zala
10-25-2006, 05:04 AM
>_> Tell your friends that they're extremely stupid.
They aren't stupid but merely ignorant.
so you should ask your friends how the hell they knew about hentai first, and they shouldn't be so fucking ignorant as well.
Yes, they are naive to not do their homework before saying statements.
I'm serious. I know a lot of people that didn't know a specific anime series, but knew what hentai was...and knew there was a difference. There was a guy I knew that even gave me the title of the hentai series. Angel Blade.
Kindly tell that guy how the hell did he find out hentai before anime and tell him he is fucking ignorant?
Really, is ignorance the issue here? Can you really blame these people? With the popularisation of animes that employ sexual themes, yet are not classified within the hentai genre e.g: Love Hina - not saying Love Hina is bad, there will be increased assoication betweem Hentai and Anime. Let's face it.
I'm just saying that you can't really say that hentai is destroying anime, because it's not. Ignorance is, in your case. Here. Brush up on your anime history! (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_anime)
Why can't I say hentai is destroying anime? Do you understand what I mean in the first place? I doubt so because you quoted such a large volume of information from wikipedia which totally makes no sense as to how hentai is destroying anime.
I'm glad you can source for information - it shows your resourcefulness. On the other hand, if you don't tell me how "History of anime" got to do with the topic at hand, it amplifies your idiocy.
H anime is an artistic expression of pornography in Japan. As opposed to photographic pornography, they allow full use of the imagination as well as scenes that run counter to accepted society and culture. Elements of sexual fantasy are represented in ways that would be impossible to film, even with a dedicated special effects budget.
I can also regurgitate word for word for you what hentai means in wikipified terms. But does this qualify hentai to be anime? Sure, hentai is a sub-branch of the anime industry.
But animes aim at narrating a story to the audience, with proper characterisation of their protagonist, antagonist and other cast.
However, hentai ditch all of these important factors and focus on the sexual action, because their aim is to arouse their audience.
I disagree...you can always prevent access to inappropiate content to children. It's really not that difficult at all. Parents need to be more computer aware.
Please do not reply so naively like this. By mentioning parents should be more computer literate alone, you claim this will offset the growing awareness of hentai?
While I don't know how much you know, your post implies the internet is the main culprit. I beg to differ. Children/adults can be introduced to hentai in so many ways. Students in Japan high schools bring hentai magazines to school and get together as a group to read, no watch it. Anime stores alone are easy sources of hentai. The list goes on.
Wow, what a retard
Retards are people with intellectual disabilities, meaning they can't convey their ideas to others. This classification best suit you to the bone. I decline your offer kindly.
owned. lol
Ditto.
Why are there so many Onion Kids?
Magester
10-25-2006, 11:18 AM
Onion Kid is a default description.
Valerie Valens
10-25-2006, 01:07 PM
Guys, anime is just cartoons from Japan, anyone who embellishes it to ridiculous lengths are pretty much wapanese retards. Hentai isn't the one ruining the reputation of anime, it's the new age shit and the wapanese fucktards like Asuran Zala which is ruining the reputation of the industry.
Hentai has been omnipresent, and nobody IMPORTANT really cares, much less get bent out of shape over it.
Tigerchickchibi is right, she does know quite a bit about the history of anime.
Quote - Some Moron:
Please do not reply so naively like this. By mentioning parents should be more computer literate alone, you claim this will offset the growing awareness of hentai?
While I don't know how much you know, your post implies the internet is the main culprit. I beg to differ. Children/adults can be introduced to hentai in so many ways. Students in Japan high schools bring hentai magazines to school and get together as a group to read, no watch it. Anime stores alone are easy sources of hentai. The list goes on.
I pray that all your kids are stillborn. What TTC meant to say is that if kids are your main concern regarding anime, then the parents concerned should be more responsible. The culprit is ignorance and irresponsibility.
Retards are people with intellectual disabilities, meaning they can't convey their ideas to others. This classification best suit you to the bone. I decline your offer kindly.
Whoops. Your response is inappropriate to the situation and based entirely in the same kind of ignorance you protested in the very same post. Therefore, you fail.
You could have avoided this low grade had you merely responded with a semi-polite retort and asked for me to justify my own remark. Alas, that ship has sailed now and you have been marked as an object of mockery. It is a pity, but you may still have some hope if you try to present a better impression.
A little tip for you to remember: most of the knowledgable people here are at least a bit abusive toward those who present fallacious arguments, and we only present our own views on such matters if you prove that you are capable of discussing them reasonably.
tygerchickchibi
10-25-2006, 03:47 PM
Why can't I say hentai is destroying anime? Do you understand what I mean in the first place? I doubt so because you quoted such a large volume of information from wikipedia which totally makes no sense as to how hentai is destroying anime.
I'm glad you can source for information - it shows your resourcefulness. On the other hand, if you don't tell me how "History of anime" got to do with the topic at hand, it amplifies your idiocy.
This is what you stated earlier, dear:
Hentai is killing the anime fanchise, regardless of the fact it "started" the anime empire.
It's not my fault that you weren't being specific on what you were saying, but this was as straightfoward as it gets.
Really, is ignorance the issue here?
Yep.
Can you really blame these people?
Uh-huh.
With the popularisation of animes that employ sexual themes, yet are not classified within the hentai genre e.g: Love Hina - not saying Love Hina is bad, there will be increased assoication betweem Hentai and Anime. Let's face it.
First of all, A lot of anime most likely inspire people to create hentai fanart or h-doujin, whether hentai or otherwise, and that would most likely be the association between hentai and regular anime. Dragon Ball Z Had no sexual reference to it whatsoever, but you can still find fan drawn comics in sexual situations, and it has nothing to do with Toei Animation, or Akira Toriyama.
Anyway, there can be nudity in anime, nipples showing and all, but that doesn't mean it's a hentai. Sexual humor is just that. It's also known as fan service.
Here is a minor example.
Sex in the City. Guess what? It deals with that aspect, and other stuff, but that doesn't mean it's PORN! This is the equivalent to what you're saying, I'm just not using cartoons.
Kindly tell that guy how the hell did he find out hentai before anime and tell him he is fucking ignorant?
=P Duh. You don't have to take my comment literally. I mean, ask him how he found out about hentai. You're the one with the problem, and instead of seeing how you can get your friend to open his mind a bit, you just blame "this and that." If I can explain it to someone, so can you.
By mentioning parents should be more computer literate alone, you claim this will offset the growing awareness of hentai?
While I don't know how much you know, your post implies the internet is the main culprit. I beg to differ. Children/adults can be introduced to hentai in so many ways. Students in Japan high schools bring hentai magazines to school and get together as a group to read, no watch it. Anime stores alone are easy sources of hentai. The list goes on.
High School in Japan, huh? I think Japan is more open about sexuality, but it doesn't really prevent them from having a normal lifestyle. I must agree that it is kinda sad, though.
In comparasion to America, we have adult stores.
I used to work in a bookstore that carried lots of manga our pornagraphy are wrapped in solid dark colored plastic, and stocked on high shelves so younger viewers can't find them. We carried adult books that weren't hidden, but had a sign that prohibited minors, and I had to walk around to make sure there weren't any prying eyes. Adults do come in to buy these books, so we can't neccessarily ban them.
Hentai manga (Or anything rated M) was wrapped in plastic, and stated in the back that it had explicit content. That doesn't always stop them from being discovered. I often educated parents of young manga readers on manga to always check the ratings before buying. And if the parents see a child reading a book that they don't neccessarily approve of, they can discuss it, and go from there.
Along with the access, people have no self control. And children can be introduced to all kinds of pornography, as I said before. A three year old can go play hide and seek, go under a parent's bed, and find a dirty magazine or otherwise. Young girls read romance novels that have sex scenes in it.
And yes, I posted internet because it's the most common source of finding any kind of pornography, even by accident. Heard of the whitehouse.com incident?
It all has to start somewhere. And he/she is going to find out eventually, whether or not parents are ready for it or not. They can be cautious and not be the cause of the information, but still.
Of course I understand what you mean, but that doesn't neccessarily mean that I have to agree with you.
i love reading stuff like this. but aren't we going in too deep from a simple observation and opinion?
i thought REAL arguments are when someone is serious about their side of the matter and willing to fight for it. so far, Asuran started with harmless trains of thoughts based on her experience, (simple observations if you will), this was followed by attacks agains't her harmless observations, and then he/she was forced to defend her observations by questioning the attacks.
which was the reason i was all like "owned! lol" in my last post. I thought Asuran totally owned you guys. lol i still think she/he did cause in reality, your all trying to too hard to make this person re-evaluate what she/he simply saw and took note of. instead, you should all explain why you think he/she's wrong or whatever WITHOUT attacking. (if your serious enough to bother -_-) rather than going off on a million tangents of history, origins, and why it "must" exists because the are people willing to pay for it. O_o
i love hentai to death, but if that's your argument on things, i know some people willing to pay for child labor, sex with kids and slavery, should that be made available too?
someone help me out here and correct me if i read the posts wrong. :p i too might have grabbed the wrong end of the argument. lol
here, i'll post what i think about Asuran's first thoughts. I think he/she's right. I've noticed this too. You can't help it though. And as much as i don't like it when anime is generalized with hentai, the opportunity to correct these misconseptions is pointless, a waste of time, and fruitless most of the time.
this is the first of Asuran's post i think. the second post was a defence post, but the arguments that came from this and the others do make for good discussion. should we fight it? should we bother? who cares? lets form a anti-misconseptions-about-anime-club? who knows. that's up to you guys. i take the who cares approach followed by calling anyone a noob who doesn't understand like we all do. (and yes, all of us here do understand i believe, even Asuran) She/he understands the diffrences, and that's why he/she's kinda bothered about anyone who confuses the two. because of it, he/she hates hentai. is that wrong? you should all stop trying to change Asuran's opinion on hentai.
i'm the biggest most perverted hentai lover in all the forums if not the whole internet, and she doesn't bother me. (i'm assuming it's a she now cause most girls don't like hentai lol) she's not on a crusade and she's not keeping me from what i like. why gang up on her? she just hates how everyone associates anime with hentai. we all hate that. the only diffrence is you all just learned to ignore the noobs that confuse the two and get on with your life.
Let Asuran hate hentai for whatever reasons. many of you all have your reasons. So what if Asuran's struck a wrong cord with you guys or whatever. live and let live. lol
tygerchickchibi
10-25-2006, 10:40 PM
i love reading stuff like this. but aren't we going in too deep from a simple observation and opinion?
i thought REAL arguments are when someone is serious about their side of the matter and willing to fight for it. so far, Asuran started with harmless trains of thoughts based on her experience, (simple observations if you will), this was followed by attacks agains't her harmless observations, and then he/she was forced to defend her observations by questioning the attacks.
which was the reason i was all like "owned! lol" in my last post. I thought Asuran totally owned you guys. lol i still think she/he did cause in reality, your all trying to too hard to make this person re-evaluate what she/he simply saw and took note of. instead, you should all explain why you think he/she's wrong or whatever WITHOUT attacking. (if your serious enough to bother -_-) rather than going off on a million tangents of history, origins, and why it "must" exists because the are people willing to pay for it. O_o
i love hentai to death, but if that's your argument on things, i know some people willing to pay for child labor, sex with kids and slavery, should that be made available too?
someone help me out here and correct me if i read the posts wrong. :p i too might have grabbed the wrong end of the argument. lol
here, i'll post what i think about Asuran's first thoughts. I think he/she's right. I've noticed this too. You can't help it though. And as much as i don't like it when anime is generalized with hentai, the opportunity to correct these misconseptions is pointless, a waste of time, and fruitless most of the time.
this is the first of Asuran's post i think. the second post was a defence post, but the arguments that came from this and the others do make for good discussion. should we fight it? should we bother? who cares? lets form a anti-misconseptions-about-anime-club? who knows. that's up to you guys. i take the who cares approach followed by calling anyone a noob who doesn't understand like we all do. (and yes, all of us here do understand i believe, even Asuran) She/he understands the diffrences, and that's why he/she's kinda bothered about anyone who confuses the two. because of it, he/she hates hentai. is that wrong? you should all stop trying to change Asuran's opinion on hentai.
i'm the biggest most perverted hentai lover in all the forums if not the whole internet, and she doesn't bother me. (i'm assuming it's a she now cause most girls don't like hentai lol) she's not on a crusade and she's not keeping me from what i like. why gang up on her? she just hates how everyone associates anime with hentai. we all hate that. the only diffrence is you all just learned to ignore the noobs that confuse the two and get on with your life.
Let Asuran hate hentai for whatever reasons. many of you all have your reasons. So what if Asuran's struck a wrong cord with you guys or whatever. live and let live. lol
Yep, I think you're totally misunderstanding what I was saying. I think any person has the right to like or dislike whatever he/she chooses.
If more people disagree with Asuran's thoughts than agree with it, then that's all it is. If more people disagreed with me and sympathized with him, then that's that.
Secondly, there's nothing wrong with telling a noob how you feel. I wanted to state my opinion and he/she stated his. I mean, I kept going because I wanted to really understand. So far, there are a few things Asuran said that I understood.
If someone is curious about the difference between anime and hentai, would you not wan to tell him because you think it's a waste of time? That's fine.
But in my case, I had a JOB in which I had to do things like that. It was fun too! *remembers her anime and manga discounts.*
I don't call anyone a noob. >_> I know she/is, but that's not the point.
I'm not trying to change his/her mind, just opening it up a bit. I understand his/her point of view, and I want to make sure she understands mine. I'm not forcing him/her to agree.
I'm sorry if you think I'm attacking Asuran, but it wouldn't make a difference if it was posted on this forum or if we were all sitting in a room speaking our mind.
jade_winter
10-26-2006, 01:56 AM
Hmm, as an actual hentai artist, I am compelled to defend hentai as an art form but as a female I have the urge to condemn it just as much.
Hentai is all about fantasy, like most any entertainment form but any sort of entertainment is unhealthy when you let it affect your live negatively.
Meh, oh well, I don't really have much to say on the subject besides that. Either sides make real good points.
tygerchickchibi
10-26-2006, 03:23 AM
Hmm, as an actual hentai artist, I am compelled to defend hentai as an art form but as a female I have the urge to condemn it just as much.
Hentai is all about fantasy, like most any entertainment form but any sort of entertainment is unhealthy when you let it affect your live negatively.
Meh, oh well, I don't really have much to say on the subject besides that. Either sides make real good points.
@_@ Finally, another chick. ^^ Can I see your artwork?
Hmm, as an actual hentai artist...
Hey, can I send you a photo of me and ask you to draw a picture of me surrounded by adoring, beautiful women in skimpy clothing?
Wow, I would be interested to know many people have actually asked you that...
tygerchickchibi
10-26-2006, 06:18 AM
Hey, can I send you a photo of me and ask you to draw a picture of me surrounded by adoring, beautiful women in skimpy clothing?
Wow, I would be interested to know many people have actually asked you that...
Your signature scares me. >.>;;;;
Asuran Zala
10-26-2006, 12:26 PM
Guys, anime is just cartoons from Japan, anyone who embellishes it to ridiculous lengths are pretty much wapanese retards.
You called me a wapanese retard below, although I don't degrade hentai so severely as you said. So your insult is unwarranted. Please be less liberal with remarks like this. We could settle this in a more civilised manner, if you want.
Hentai isn't the one ruining the reputation of anime, it's the new age shit and the wapanese fucktards like Asuran Zala which is ruining the reputation of the industry.
How did I in any way, ruin the hentai industry? Is hentai not considering pornography? Because it is pornography, (the Japanese have declared it to be), is it not casting a bad image over the anime industry?
You spew unbacked statements. Learn to defend your views so we can engage in an intellectual discussion.
Hentai has been omnipresent, and nobody IMPORTANT really cares, much less get bent out of shape over it.
I'm asking you again, are you sure you don't want to refute this statement? Because I understand people make impulsive remarks when they get emotional.
igerchickchibi is right, she does know quite a bit about the history of anime.
I never doubted her knowledge in the history of anime, its just that the information she quoted was irrelevant.
I pray that all your kids are stillborn. What TTC meant to say is that if kids are your main concern regarding anime, then the parents concerned should be more responsible. The culprit is ignorance and irresponsibility.
Yes, a child's upbringing is a crucial decision in whether a child succumbs to the temptation of watching pornography or not.
But the point here is TCC only mentioned 'internet' as the sole source of why children are being influenced by hentai, which is ludicrous because we know children are exposed to hentai in so many ways through so many other mediums.
---She has explained her rationale below, so that resolve this issue---
Erm, I haven't offended you so I'm wondering you are hurling curses at me. Considering the fact you are a gal, I shall practise some restrain. I hope you can understand my intention to seek a discussion and that I DO NOT think HENTAI ITSELF and PEOPLE WHO WATCH IT are despicable.
Whoops. Your response is inappropriate to the situation and based entirely in the same kind of ignorance you protested in the very same post. Therefore, you fail.
My aim was to prompt you to reply me by insulting you indirectly. I guess I was successful. If you don't understand my intention for responding, its best if you don't start assuming.
You could have avoided this low grade had you merely responded with a semi-polite retort and asked for me to justify my own remark.
Why should I be so polite towards you when you called me a retard? I don't have a policy of scolding others without reason, but calling me a retard (When I had never insulted you) was the last straw.
Besides, your statement alone tells me alot about your low grade thinking.
Alas, that ship has sailed now and you have been marked as an object of mockery. It is a pity, but you may still have some hope if you try to present a better impression.
What you view towards me, I could hardly give a shit. If anything, at least the other members on the board here are least worth debating with.
A little tip for you to remember: most of the knowledgable people here are at least a bit abusive toward those who present fallacious arguments, and we only present our own views on such matters if you prove that you are capable of discussing them reasonably.
I don't need to prove anything. This system doesn't function in such a way that I need your approval before I post my views. If you wish to criticise, do so constructively. Otherwise, shut up and scram. If you want, go ahead and flame. I'm okay with it. It is your pregorative and I have no right to remove it from you. It is just a matter of how long you can sustain this behaviour of yours. At the very least, I know I'm not in the wrong.
It's not my fault that you weren't being specific on what you were saying, but this was as straightfoward as it gets
I did say that.
But the question in number here is why did you then respond in this manner?
"I'm just saying that you can't really say that hentai is destroying anime, because it's not. Ignorance is, in your case."
It implies that you are responding as to why "hentai is not destroying the anime industry", not why you feel hentai did not started the anime industry.
So actually, I was misleaded by your reply that didn't make sense. But thanks for clarifying the difference.
I guess I will explain my view then.
Hentai first originated in the Edo period, a timespan in ancient Japan. Ideas of sex were explored by artists through simple prints on materials such as wood and cloth. These pieces were for sale but only for exhibiting purposes. It wasn't in anyway, commercialised.
However, along when the process of paper production was invented, chinese artists slowly transferred their ideas onto these materials.
However, around AD604, this technology was stolen by either the Japanese themselves or other close associates because it was discovered by historians that Japanese were starting to use paper. Pieces of paper containing nude pictures of humans were discovered and it was soon deduced that "hentai" was commercialised when it was found in several homes in archeological digs. Come 20th century, when paper making took on a new level - book making, your average manga sprouted, along with hentai magazines.
So, to cut a long story short, am I not right to say hentai "started" the anime industry. It was weird though, how you simply overlooked those inverted commas and accused me of not understanding the history of anime. the usage of those inverted commas signified that hentai did play a role in the advent of anime, regardless how major or minor it is.
First of all, A lot of anime most likely inspire people to create hentai fanart or h-doujin, whether hentai or otherwise, and that would most likely be the association between hentai and regular anime. Dragon Ball Z Had no sexual reference to it whatsoever, but you can still find fan drawn comics in sexual situations, and it has nothing to do with Toei Animation, or Akira Toriyama.
By saying hentai fanart is popular, are you not then agreeing with me this all the more, leads to a misconception whereby people start associating hentai with anime?
Anyway, there can be nudity in anime, nipples showing and all, but that doesn't mean it's a hentai. Sexual humor is just that. It's also known as fan service.
Sure, I understand where you are coming from - I didn't mention anything about nudity = hentai in my post. Animes like Ichigo 100%, Love Hina testifies your statement.
But you have yet to prove me wrong that non-hentai animes with sexual themes are causing the average guy/gal on the street to feel that anime industry is associated with hentai production, which is just so wrong. This is the crux of the argument.
Here is a minor example. Sex in the City. Guess what? It deals with that aspect, and other stuff, but that doesn't mean it's PORN! This is the equivalent to what you're saying, I'm just not using cartoons.
I'm aware of shows which do screen sex, but are not pornography by nature. But the series "Sex in the City" reaches out to a far more mature audience that is naturally, able to distinguish between dirty humour and morals. Hence, I'm ambivalent towards the fact such shows like Sex in the City are being screened.
However, it appalls me that hentai is so easily availiable to little kids, because it affects their thinking and will in some way or another, influence their actions and beliefs. Thoughts like women = sex slaves and other equally derogative mindsets should never be impressed in their little minds.
And yes, in most cases, pornography tarnishes the image of women as a whole by portraying them as servants of men's sexual desire.
I hope I don't have to cite examples. Look at it this way, it is 'okay' for men to go about fucking women, but women who go about fucking men are viewed as whores, sluts. This I find, is unfair on womens' part.
=P Duh. You don't have to take my comment literally. I mean, ask him how he found out about hentai. You're the one with the problem, and instead of seeing how you can get your friend to open his mind a bit, you just blame "this and that." If I can explain it to someone, so can you.
No, I didn't take your comment literally. Just a subtle way of telling you your response "tell your friend..." was a bit too impulsive and unwarranted. I'm glad you didn't reply in an equally sacarstic manner. I only wish to establish a friendly debate with any interested people.
High School in Japan, huh? I think Japan is more open about sexuality, but it doesn't really prevent them from having a normal lifestyle. I must agree that it is kinda sad, though.
The sex industry in Japan is by far the most extensive and innovative in Asia, surpassing most western countries too. According to several sources, TIME, Tabloid Tokyo - A book... the age at which teenagers first engage in sex is decreasing at a alarming rate, currently being 20 or lower. I do like to believe hentai is one of the major factors responsible for this. Other key points like stress...come what may...I know them, but thats beside the point.
In comparasion to America, we have adult stores.I used to work in a bookstore that carried lots of manga our pornagraphy are wrapped in solid dark colored plastic, and stocked on high shelves so younger viewers can't find them. We carried adult books that weren't hidden, but had a sign that prohibited minors, and I had to walk around to make sure there weren't any prying eyes. Adults do come in to buy these books, so we can't neccessarily ban them.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Within my rather narrow scope of experience and limitations in life, there's only so much I know. Therefore, I like to learn more outside my country.
Yes, rules that deny access to underage school-going children are implemented in bookstores, some brothels and other relevant places. But this "security" measure hardly works. It is common for schools in Japan to receive a call:
"A student from your school checked in with his partner and left without paying. Mind taking charge?"
I can hardly say this measure is effective, let alone functional. Yes, it is not only occuring in Japan. You yourself should be aware where the future of American teenagers is heading for.
Hentai manga (Or anything rated M) was wrapped in plastic, and stated in the back that it had explicit content. That doesn't always stop them from being discovered. I often educated parents of young manga readers on manga to always check the ratings before buying. And if the parents see a child reading a book that they don't neccessarily approve of, they can discuss it, and go from there.
Pornographic magazines are for sale in most countries only for readers aged 18 and above. Yet my friends are able to get their hands on the latest copy right on the date of distribution, and they waste no time sharing it with others.
There is a loop hole in this system. Reinforced packaging does not in anyway, deter underage children. In fact, those who possess such magazines are endowed with "cool" status.
Along with the access, people have no self control. And children can be introduced to all kinds of pornography, as I said before. A three year old can go play hide and seek, go under a parent's bed, and find a dirty magazine or otherwise. Young girls read romance novels that have sex scenes in it.
Yes, this is why I feel internet has a substantial input in the growing influence of pornography, but not that major itself, as a sole reason.
And yes, I posted internet because it's the most common source of finding any kind of pornography, even by accident. Heard of the whitehouse.com incident?
I would very like to challenge your view that internet is the largest resource/or most accessible resource for pornography, but I'll give it a pass, since we agree that internet is responsible for this alarming phenomenon.
Erm, if possible, can you elaborate on the whitehouse.com incident? By any chance, is it another scandal in the United States political scene? If not, pardon my ignorance. My place of residence is outside America.
It all has to start somewhere. And he/she is going to find out eventually, whether or not parents are ready for it or not. They can be cautious and not be the cause of the information, but still.
I guess you are right. I knew about pornography at 8 but only really "experienced" it at 14, by means of a smuggled pornographic magazine. Watching the eyes of my male peers glissade over the images really disgusted me.
Of course I understand what you mean, but that doesn't neccessarily mean that I have to agree with you.
Thanks for respecting my views, unlike other members of the board.
I don't call anyone a noob. >_> I know she/is, but that's not the point.
Ouch, not because you called me a n00b, but because I'm a damn frikking male!! Do only females challenge the notion of a society warped by pornogrpahy? With utmost respect, madam, you should have inferred my gender correctly just based on my username. Disappointing, lol.
About my n00b status, I understand how things work. I too am guilty of this mindset that someone new to any forum would be immediately recognised as a n00b and only after some posts will he/she eventually outgrow it. I only hate it when others look down on you because your first post sounds "immature."
Hmm, as an actual hentai artist, I am compelled to defend hentai as an art form but as a female I have the urge to condemn it just as much.
But I never denied hentai was a form of art, albeit the fact that I harbour different views of what art should be because I admit not all of my views are universally accepted. Please don't think I'm against hentai, as opposed to what many others think.
My main concern is that I'm afraid
1) Hentai is destroying the anime franchise
2) Hentai is tainting the minds of the next generation
Hentai is all about fantasy, like most any entertainment form but any sort of entertainment is unhealthy when you let it affect your live negatively.
Well, I guess I'm have to agree with this. As long as hentai doesn't affect one's thinking, it is okay to "indulge" in it, like how it is proven across the globe that an average man would have viewed pornography three times, masturbated five times, (for married man, make love four times) in a week.
Whatever. I've come to terms with the fact my normal is abnormal.
Meh, oh well, I don't really have much to say on the subject besides that. Either sides make real good points.
If possible, I would like to know more about your views, with particular respect to your profession and how you view hentai, considering the fact your insight into this industry would make your opinion a valuable and insightful one.
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Now, it would seem from the general response I'm getting that I'm rather alien to everyone and maybe cold.
Maybe I should also have elaborated more on my first post to prevent misunderstandings or eliminate chances of getting flamed, considering the fact newbies are very vulnerable to insatiable bloodlusting creatures.
However, I was of the notion that it is only prudent for someone new to state his/her opinion briefly with just enough expansion for someone else to respond because if you describe your opinion too explicitly, it may deter others from responding, either finding it too hard to comprehend or thinking you are some elitist, which is definitely not the case.
Well, at least, that was the practice back in homeground...
Now, a bit of essential personal introduction. I'm a student studying in Singapore. I'm a male of traditional and conservative upbringing. I like debating with others alot because it can widen my thinking and knowledge as well. I'm open to new ideas, theories, thinking ways and I hope any negativity that still exists here would be dispelled sooner or later.
Valerie Valens
10-26-2006, 01:02 PM
Asuran Zala
10-26-2006, 01:47 PM
tl;dr (
http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_20.php)
I have to admit, that was a pretty damn good read. It was merely that I had too much time on my hands which explains the long post. Point taken.
Now, your turn:
http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_27.php
haha the nooblet is getting agressive and thinking he/she/it is somehow superior. Gotta love that.
But I suppose I'll actually make a serious reply.
You obviously haven't been paying attention to the market these past few years. Anime was, at one point, largely equated with ultraviolence and hentai. However, those days are long since behind us. The market is continually growing and that old prejudice has almost disappeared except among much older people who probably couldn't tell the difference between an American cartoon and a Japanese one. Hell, they probably think nothing of their kids watching Sailor Moon on TV.
I've been watching anime for a very long time and I had to deal with those old notions back in the day. Therefore, I can tell you from first-hand experience that you have it completely backwards. Frankly, any idiot should be able to tell that much. You spoke without knowing what you were talking about and I called you on it. That's the way things work around here.
Asuran Zala
10-26-2006, 02:35 PM
haha the nooblet is getting agressive and thinking he/she/it is somehow superior. Gotta love that.
The feeling is mutual. And I was right. You certainly think you are superior or else why the cause for these remarks?
You obviously haven't been paying attention to the market these past few years. Anime was, at one point, largely equated with ultraviolence and hentai. However, those days are long since behind us.
How am I supposed to take your word for it, not doubting your knowledge though.
I can easily argue that since the anime industry is growing (this is an undisputed fact), the hentai industry would naturally gain in influence, leading to more people thinking h anime is anime.
The market is continually growing and that old prejudice has almost disappeared except among much older people who probably couldn't tell the difference between an American cartoon and a Japanese one. Hell, they probably think nothing of their kids watching Sailor Moon on TV.
And yet while the market is growing, the hentai industry is constantly expanding steadily, exploiting technology to its fullest.
Compared to now, hentai is so much more accessible to the general population. Just look at famous torrent sites. Quite a few have categories marked "hentai" and close to it, "anime". And not surprisingly, these torrents constantly occupy the "top downloads" category.
If a non-anime watcher would to surf for some torrents and chance upon any of these sites, he/she would naturally develop the perception that anime is hentai.
I've been watching anime for a very long time and I had to deal with those old notions back in the day. Therefore, I can tell you from first-hand experience that you have it completely backwards.
You haven't even established your position or opinion in this thread so I don't know what you mean by "you have it completely backwards."
You mean to say the trend that people tend to associate anime with hentai was back then?
Well, you have to prove my views wrong.
Frankly, any idiot should be able to tell that much. You spoke without knowing what you were talking about and I called you on it.
Frankly, this statement is useless.
That's the way things work around here.
I guess so. I don't really mind.
Valerie Valens
10-26-2006, 02:38 PM
And he says *I* have issues. :laugh:
The feeling is mutual. And I was right. You certainly think you are superior or else why the cause for these remarks?
You certainly don't know this community very well...
How am I supposed to take your word for it, not doubting your knowledge though.
If you don't doubt my knowledge, there's no reason not to take my word for it.
I can easily argue that since the anime industry is growing (this is an undisputed fact), the hentai industry would naturally gain in influence, leading to more people thinking h anime is anime.
And you would be wrong. You also have to consider the fact that hentai has far less mainstream exposure. When parents see their kids watching anime on Cartoon Network or something similar, they're introduced to it in a much more positive way.
Like regular pornography, hentai anime is typically accessible only in certain out-of-the-way places and on the internet. What you're saying is akin to claiming that a person is going to believe all American cinema is pornographic because there's porn on the internet and a few stores sell it.
And yet while the market is growing, the hentai industry is constantly expanding steadily, exploiting technology to its fullest.
Compared to now, hentai is so much more accessible to the general population. Just look at famous torrent sites. Quite a few have categories marked "hentai" and close to it, "anime". And not surprisingly, these torrents constantly occupy the "top downloads" category.
If a non-anime watcher would to surf for some torrents and chance upon any of these sites, he/she would naturally develop the perception that anime is hentai.
See above.
You haven't even established your position or opinion in this thread so I don't know what you mean by "you have it completely backwards."
You mean to say the trend that people tend to associate anime with hentai was back then?
Well, you have to prove my views wrong.
That is precisely what I meant. I thought it was rather clear. My apologies if it was not.
As for proving your views wrong, I'm afraid that if the combination of logic, common sense, and personal experience is not enough to do that job, you probably won't accept anything less than a giant hand reaching down from the sky and slapping you with a rubber stamp that says, "You're wrong."
Frankly, this statement is useless.
Incorrect. That is meant to explain why my initial reply was a harsh one.
Asuran Zala
10-26-2006, 03:39 PM
You certainly don't know this community very well...
I don't, but now I do, it seems. But there's no reason to be intimidated. even if I fall, I learn something.
If you don't doubt my knowledge, there's no reason not to take my word for it.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. But you didn't produce any evidence, so there is no reason to believe you.
And you would be wrong. You also have to consider the fact that hentai has far less mainstream exposure. When parents see their kids watching anime on Cartoon Network or something similar, they're introduced to it in a much more positive way.
I will not deny this. But it at the other way, parents are being increasing aware of the sexual themes in anime too.
If a brief sex scene between Kira Yamato and Fllay could cause an uprorar from the parents in Japan, it is pretty much evident while there may be a good image, there is also a bad image.
Like regular pornography, hentai anime is typically accessible only in certain out-of-the-way places and on the internet. What you're saying is akin to claiming that a person is going to believe all American cinema is pornographic because there's porn on the internet and a few stores sell it.
America cinema may not screen pornography, but they do have their own fair share of controversial as well as infamous sex movies. Look at that this has resulted in. America's cinemas are now globally recohnised for their more 'open' movies whioch tend to contain more sexual content too. You can't deny this.
And my focus was also how more and more animes are employing sexual themes in their animes, yet not regarding themselves as hentai. this trend will cause non-readers to assume animes are more or less, a bit sexual in nature. Idf you can use your personal experience, I don't see why i can't. A number of my friends have always thought animkes were hentai because opf this reason.
As for proving your views wrong, I'm afraid that if the combination of logic, common sense, and personal experience is not enough to do that job, you probably won't accept anything less than a giant hand reaching down from the sky and slapping you with a rubber stamp that says, "You're wrong."
That is if you are capable of it, which you are not. So its best to persuade me through words. And I don't see how this is common sense.
You yourself have commented observation of the market is required. So is common sense relevant here?
Incorrect. That is meant to explain why my initial reply was a harsh one.
I see. But if you were to be proved wrong, you would have to take back your words.
grieversangel
10-26-2006, 05:28 PM
I really think that hentai is so unnessary. horny bas****s
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. But you didn't produce any evidence, so there is no reason to believe you.
If you want evidence, look at sales figures for anime DVDs and see how highly televised anime shows score in the ratings. The market is booming and is showing no ill effects like you're talking about. And as far as it's progressed, it's well past the stage where there could be a sizable backlash.
I will not deny this. But it at the other way, parents are being increasing aware of the sexual themes in anime too.
If a brief sex scene between Kira Yamato and Fllay could cause an uprorar from the parents in Japan, it is pretty much evident while there may be a good image, there is also a bad image.
Parents in the U.S. are not particularly aware of things like that because of the censorship anime shows tend to undergo. The only way they'd be aware of it is if they bought the DVDs, and any parent spending that much on anime DVDs is probably doing it for himself/herself rather than children.
America cinema may not screen pornography, but they do have their own fair share of controversial as well as infamous sex movies. Look at that this has resulted in. America's cinemas are now globally recohnised for their more 'open' movies whioch tend to contain more sexual content too. You can't deny this.
Why would I want to deny it? That actually strengthens my own position by suggesting that Americans are becoming desensitized to that type of content.
And my focus was also how more and more animes are employing sexual themes in their animes, yet not regarding themselves as hentai. this trend will cause non-readers to assume animes are more or less, a bit sexual in nature. Idf you can use your personal experience, I don't see why i can't. A number of my friends have always thought animkes were hentai because opf this reason.
I did not interpret your original post as such. After reading it again, I still do not see how it could be interpreted that way. However, it also reminded me of the major reason I instantly regarded you as an ignoramus.
Hentai is killing the anime fanchise, regardless of the fact it "started" the anime empire.
This quote makes absolutely no sense. If you knew anything at all about the history involved, you would know that hentai was a relatively late development. Anime had been making its way over to the U.S. for over two decades before hentai starting popping up on these shores.
That is if you are capable of it, which you are not. So its best to persuade me through words. And I don't see how this is common sense.
You yourself have commented observation of the market is required. So is common sense relevant here?
Common sense is necessary to put it in the proper context and examine it from a reasonable perspective. It applies to how you look at existing facts to find the underlying meaning in them.
I see. But if you were to be proved wrong, you would have to take back your words.
Perhaps this is so, and I already acknowledge that you are not as bad as I had previously though. However, you are still an ignoramus who blindly spews nonsense on a topic you don't understand. I doubt that a single person here will see eye-to-eye with you or be swayed by anything you have to say. However, if I'm wrong about that, they're welcome to step forward and show their support for your position.
tygerchickchibi
10-26-2006, 08:04 PM
I did say that.
But the question in number here is why did you then respond in this manner?
"I'm just saying that you can't really say that hentai is destroying anime, because it's not. Ignorance is, in your case."
I meant to say if people refuse to see that hentai is just a type of anime( as mecha, shoujo, kid, etc.) , Then it is ignorance. As for "in your case," I meant the situation, not you. ^_^; sorry about that.
Hentai first originated in the Edo period, a timespan in ancient Japan. Ideas of sex were explored by artists through simple prints on materials such as wood and cloth. These pieces were for sale but only for exhibiting purposes. It wasn't in anyway, commercialised.
However, along when the process of paper production was invented, chinese artists slowly transferred their ideas onto these materials.
However, around AD604, this technology was stolen by either the Japanese themselves or other close associates because it was discovered by historians that Japanese were starting to use paper. Pieces of paper containing nude pictures of humans were discovered and it was soon deduced that "hentai" was commercialised when it was found in several homes in archeological digs. Come 20th century, when paper making took on a new level - book making, your average manga sprouted, along with hentai magazines.
So, to cut a long story short, am I not right to say hentai "started" the anime industry. It was weird though, how you simply overlooked those inverted commas and accused me of not understanding the history of anime. the usage of those inverted commas signified that hentai did play a role in the advent of anime, regardless how major or minor it is.
Isn't it called Ukiyo-e, and not hentai art?
I sent you those wikipedia links because in history, the word "hentai" didn't associate with any type of pornography. It was more of strange, or unusual.
Hentai was still separated from anime, and the thing is, Hentai didn't exactly inspire anime.
Anime started because of the influence from the production of animation in the west. Osamu Tezuka was the start of both anime and manga.
This day, only outside of Japan, westerners have posted it "hentai" as pornagraphy, rather than it's original meaning, "pervert."
But before you go on and say anything...just read this (
http://wwwsshe.murdoch.edu.au/intersections/issue12/mclelland.html) and tell me what you think. In a way, I'm trying to make sense of what you're saying too...And from what I read in the history of anime, it seems like actual anime hentai seemed to start in the 80's. Doujin and Manga? Well, that...I can't really say, but since manga really started in the 60's...it's around that time frame.
By saying hentai fanart is popular, are you not then agreeing with me this all the more, leads to a misconception whereby people start associating hentai with anime?
Hmmm...I have to honestly say that I've only been in the same situation as you a few times. But anime is very mainstream in the USA. It is on television. For Hentai DVDs, it's seperated from the anime dvd shelves. Mature manga is wrapped and the art is slightly censored.
The only way you can even get hentai doujin is buying it off from the internet, getting it from a specialized store,going to an anime convention, or knowing a reallly good friend that can get you some of that stuff. So in most part, for people that I know that hardly know anime, the only thing they can think of is "Sailor Moon," or "Dragon Ball Z."
Most people here find hentai on the internet. They can search "anime" or a specific title of an anime in an Image category and find both regular or hentai images. Or are introduced to it from a friend who is more knowledgeable.
^^ So yes, I agree with you, in circumstances like the one I posted above.
Sure, I understand where you are coming from - I didn't mention anything about nudity = hentai in my post. Animes like Ichigo 100%, Love Hina testifies your statement.
But you have yet to prove me wrong that non-hentai animes with sexual themes are causing the average guy/gal on the street to feel that anime industry is associated with hentai production, which is just so wrong. This is the crux of the argument.
Ah.... >.> Well, then.
You didn't specify that before. I mean, you did but...not this directly.
I'm aware of shows which do screen sex, but are not pornography by nature. But the series "Sex in the City" reaches out to a far more mature audience that is naturally, able to distinguish between dirty humour and morals. Hence, I'm ambivalent towards the fact such shows like Sex in the City are being screened.
Yet, some kid can be flipping channels, and find that program on, seeing Sarah Jessica Parker getting naked with some other guy.
Hentai does reach out to a mature audience as well. Let me put it this way...
Some things are easily availabe to minors, while other things are not.
However, it appalls me that hentai is so easily availiable to little kids, because it affects their thinking and will in some way or another, influence their actions and beliefs. Thoughts like women = sex slaves and other equally derogative mindsets should never be impressed in their little minds.
And yes, in most cases, pornography tarnishes the image of women as a whole by portraying them as servants of men's sexual desire.
I hope I don't have to cite examples. Look at it this way, it is 'okay' for men to go about fucking women, but women who go about fucking men are viewed as whores, sluts. This I find, is unfair on womens' part.
^^ Well, yeah...but women volunteer for it, and they make a lot of money. Some women are fine with that kind of lifestyle. I personally wouldn't want to live that way, but people have their own ways of making money.
And men buy it more because of women. Women are on the front cover of pornography videos. No guy wants to see another guy's penis unless they're gay. Women dominate the pornography industry, whether h-anime or reality.
As for hentai anime...I'm more grateful that it's just a piece of drawing on paper. There isn't much difference than that.
I've never seen hentai available to kids, though. Realistic porn, yes. Hentai, no.
It's always been unfair on women...Look at women in history. I'm not really surprised.
No, I didn't take your comment literally. Just a subtle way of telling you your response "tell your friend..." was a bit too impulsive and unwarranted. I'm glad you didn't reply in an equally sacarstic manner. I only wish to establish a friendly debate with any interested people.
^^;; I don't need too be sarcastic but... @_@ I've been bitchy recently. xD
The sex industry in Japan is by far the most extensive and innovative in Asia, surpassing most western countries too. According to several sources, TIME, Tabloid Tokyo - A book... the age at which teenagers first engage in sex is decreasing at a alarming rate, currently being 20 or lower. I do like to believe hentai is one of the major factors responsible for this. Other key points like stress...come what may...I know them, but thats beside the point.
O_o I saw on this one site, they have some kind of sex festivals...embracing their sexuality, I guess. xD It's so weird....hmm...I believe everything is influenced by an action. Hentai is fantasy, or even based on realistic scenarios. It's possible someone can go have an affair with a next door neighbor, and even post it on video. Sexual fantasy derived from the mind or impulses of a person. It happens.
@_@ Gosh, it must sound weird to you. It's hard for me to explain it, actually. *can't really find the words.*
Thanks for sharing your experience. Within my rather narrow scope of experience and limitations in life, there's only so much I know. Therefore, I like to learn more outside my country.
^^ you're so welcome. I'm curious to know about your country too.
Yes, rules that deny access to underage school-going children are implemented in bookstores, some brothels and other relevant places. But this "security" measure hardly works. It is common for schools in Japan to receive a call:
"A student from your school checked in with his partner and left without paying. Mind taking charge?"
I can hardly say this measure is effective, let alone functional. Yes, it is not only occuring in Japan. You yourself should be aware where the future of American teenagers is heading for.
Hmm? Hentai isn't actually a big issue in the US. Its more like Online predators, child pornography, and negligent parents. I'm curious to know what you mean by the last sentence.
Pornographic magazines are for sale in most countries only for readers aged 18 and above. Yet my friends are able to get their hands on the latest copy right on the date of distribution, and they waste no time sharing it with others.
^_^;;; I can say this much. Not a lot of kids look their age anymore. I'm 22 and I look like a minor I think 14 at the youngest. I have a friend who's 16, and she looks like she's 20. And people don't bother to ask the age of minors, but they sell it to them regardless. Depends on the place.
There is a loop hole in this system. Reinforced packaging does not in anyway, deter underage children. In fact, those who possess such magazines are endowed with "cool" status.
XD I didn't know that there was still that kind of stereotype going around...I still thought it was about taking some younger girl's virginity and taking panties....Dun ask.
Yes, this is why I feel internet has a substantial input in the growing influence of pornography, but not that major itself, as a sole reason.
Hentai was expanded greatly in the west because of it being mainstream online. ^^;
I would very like to challenge your view that internet is the largest resource/or most accessible resource for pornography, but I'll give it a pass, since we agree that internet is responsible for this alarming phenomenon.
Erm, if possible, can you elaborate on the whitehouse.com incident? By any chance, is it another scandal in the United States political scene? If not, pardon my ignorance. My place of residence is outside America.
To be brief, I believe that a young elementary school boy searched for research on the internet for the White House (aka president's home).
Of course, his first impulse would be whitehouse.com, but as soon as he clicked on the site, it led him to a porn site. The site was indeed "whitehouse.com", just not appealing to government standards, I guess.
I guess you are right. I knew about pornography at 8 but only really "experienced" it at 14, by means of a smuggled pornographic magazine. Watching the eyes of my male peers glissade over the images really disgusted me.
Imagine catching your parents having sex. *stabs herself in the eyes*
xD Glad it never happened to me!
Ouch, not because you called me a n00b, but because I'm a damn frikking male!! Do only females challenge the notion of a society warped by pornogrpahy? With utmost respect, madam, you should have inferred my gender correctly just based on my username. Disappointing, lol.
XD I meant to put he/she. It was a typo. Sorry! =D I really couldn't tell by your username, though. That one guy thought you were a chick too!!! ;__;
xD I hate the word Noob.
My main concern is that I'm afraid
1) Hentai is destroying the anime franchise
2) Hentai is tainting the minds of the next generation
If you think that's horrible...look at this article.
This manga (
http://www.local6.com/news/5497816/detail.html#/index.html), dealing with teenage issues, was treated like it was a full blown adult comic. I've read that series, and it doesn't come anything close to hentai. If it was a non pictured book with just text, I'm sure the mother wouldn't have said a damn thing. She didn't know anything about hentai, but...ugh. >_>
I call it ignorance at it's finest. xD
Just out of curiousity, are you a college student?
Masaka_Naraku
10-26-2006, 08:11 PM
..............And the best part is Hentai isn't real. The end
(If it was...Kill me! XD)
tygerchickchibi
10-26-2006, 08:17 PM
whoops, accidental double post... *looks for delete button.*
Masaka_Naraku
10-26-2006, 08:23 PM
TV Programmes have sick content (non-animated) so has anime. Theres good and bad in a lot of things.
Hentai isnt ruining the instury It scarred it but it still remains even though the anime reputation has recovered.
Like I said. Hentai isn't real. Ignore it. and if you see a hentai pic by mistake. Watch an non hentai anime and forget all about it.
tygerchickchibi
10-26-2006, 08:36 PM
TV Programmes have sick content (non-animated) so has anime. Theres good and bad in a lot of things.
Hentai isnt ruining the instury It scarred it but it still remains even though the anime reputation has recovered.
Like I said. Hentai isn't real. Ignore it. and if you see a hentai pic by mistake. Watch an non hentai anime and forget all about it.
>_>;;; Too many Masaka Naraku's out here. *hugs him anyway*
From reading your post, you're pretty clueless to what is going on. No offense.
Masaka_Naraku
10-26-2006, 09:00 PM
tygerchickchibi.
I havent read the new posted lately (But i have read yours) Thats why Im off subject XD
Its fun to have a point.
(And I'm female)
tygerchickchibi
10-26-2006, 09:07 PM
xD oh.
Okay. *hugs again* Yay, another girl!
Masaka_Naraku
10-26-2006, 09:09 PM
I always thought your name looks familiar. I realised I knew you from another forum XD
tygerchickchibi
10-26-2006, 09:11 PM
Which one, the VAA?
I just don't feel like making up names all the time...ya know? I won't remember ALL of them. =D
I'm a part of a lot of forums with this name, so if you see it, yeah, it's me. If not...
Lemme at 'em!! I kick some ass!!! xD
Nah..just kiddin. =p
Masaka_Naraku
10-26-2006, 09:17 PM
Yeah VAA. Im just Masaka_Naraku ^_^
anywhooo
Even though some of you guys hate Hentai. WHATS the best thing about it? Heres my answer. ITS NOT REAL *Dances* XD
jade_winter
10-26-2006, 11:07 PM
I agree.
Nothing's real and it's so ridiculous sometimes that it's funny. It's like watching a B-horror movie....or Paris Hilton.
I'll send a pic to you no prob, tyger.
Oh and Olde, I'd have no problem drawing you surrounded by adoring nekked ladies ^_^
Rozalin
10-27-2006, 12:21 AM
If you hate it so much, then don't look at the stuff. It's as simple as that.
For me? Eh, I rarely look at that kinds of stuff nowadays, but I don't hate it.
tygerchickchibi
10-27-2006, 02:02 AM
I agree.
Nothing's real and it's so ridiculous sometimes that it's funny. It's like watching a B-horror movie....or Paris Hilton.
I'll send a pic to you no prob, tyger.
Oh and Olde, I'd have no problem drawing you surrounded by adoring nekked ladies ^_^
YAY!!!!! Hey,draw my character as one of the nekked ladies! xD
I don't think Asuran's worry is about anime not making money. it's the image its getting. OF COURSE hentai isn't hurting anime financially or crap like that. Asuran's just really really doesn't like it when poeple associate it with hentai. O_o
also, i just noticed prak and asuran "arguing" yet they appeared to agree on two things uknowingly. prack put it as [desensitized to that type of content]. isn't that what Asuran is trying to fight?
I doubt that a single person here will see eye-to-eye with you or be swayed by anything you have to say. However, if I'm wrong about that, they're welcome to step forward and show their support for your position.
*cough* i thought i did up there a few posts ago. lol actually i was just agreeing with how we all hate it when poeple confuse anime with hentai and think they are one and the same. but i don't blame hentai for it at all. (as we all are trying to explain to Asuran) We don't think it's hentai's fault. We blame ignorance. That's why we mostly ignore those type of people or call THEM noobs. (i was the first to use the word noob in this thread here and i was calling other poeple noobs, not anyone in this thread)
also. its very noob to post the flame warriors pics in the middle of a discussion especially when you choose the wrong warriors to label people with! i should know, i do it when i wanna play around and instigate a bit lol. but if you must, use the original site! gotta give credit to the original artist! he's really good.
http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/
also i think i'm a big cat and i really hate wannabe androids. lol androids never understand slang and irony or things like that. so if i call people gay they're always like "i'm not homosexual, your a dumbass for thinking that" i hate them so much always trying to pull the android card. fuck you pricks! lol
good thing i haven't had a war in here. i wuv everyone! ^^
tygerchickchibi
10-27-2006, 02:13 AM
It's okay, Tact. We all know that he was trying to say that. There were other comments that he made, and I challenged them, and vice versa. Most of us are pretty civil. =P
*pets* I love cats too!
Oh and Olde, I'd have no problem drawing you surrounded by adoring nekked ladies ^_^
At least in one life, reality or not, I should be the object of every woman's fantasy. :love:
Asuran Zala
10-27-2006, 08:07 AM
If you want evidence, look at sales figures for anime DVDs and see how highly televised anime shows score in the ratings. The market is booming and is showing no ill effects like you're talking about. And as far as it's progressed, it's well past the stage where there could be a sizable backlash.
There is a flaw in your argument.
Non-anime watchers might already have developed this coating of ignorance towards anime because of the association with hentai, but this doesn�t undermine the fact that current anime watchers are already very active in this hobby of theirs and hence, buy many anime comics, accessories and other items, contributing to the growth of the anime industry.
Then again, you yourself have stated that anime has discovered a vast and eager market in the USA. Is it then any surprise that the anime industry is expanding and experiencing its �golden years� phase?
You were to counter my fact that hentai is tarnishing the anime industry by producing evidence (increasing DVD anime sales � the burden is on you to produce these evidence, not me. If you want to convince me, do it.), and yet you say that it is plausible to argue that Americans are the ones who have open mindsets and are desensitised to such content, which explains the rapid sales, then you are saying Americans buy anime freely because the bad image hentai casts is dispelled or isn�t taken seriously.
American parents complain about hentai magazines being distributed in libraries:
http://www.local6.com/news/5497816/detail.html#/index.html with courtesy of TCC.
Yes, it may be just one piece of evidence, but its better than you whom have yet to prove anything. This proves your notion of American adults being open to such content is inaccurate, but doesn't apply for all.
You also have to prove to me this �boom� the anime industry is experiencing is because of American�s spending power, not due to other factors such as increasing demand within Asia itself. Coutries residing in the South East Asian region like Malaysia, Singapore and some parts of Indonesia as well as Japana�s neighbours, South Korea and Philippines have reported acute increases in exports of anime and selling performance.
And how can you be so sure hentai doesn�t paint a bad image of the anime industry in the near future � since you yourself have said anime entered America relatively recently, and the hentai industry takes time to establish its foothold, I won�t be too quick to say America is resistant to the image of hentai. It is emrely that its effect may not be too quick to occur.
Parents in the U.S. are not particularly aware of things like that because of the censorship anime shows tend to undergo. The only way they'd be aware of it is if they bought the DVDs, and any parent spending that much on anime DVDs is probably doing it for himself/herself rather than children.
Contrary to the fact that USA practises the least censorship and the highest level of tolerance towards sex and related media? I won�t take your word on this.
Why would I want to deny it? That actually strengthens my own position by suggesting that Americans are becoming desensitized to that type of content.
And by saying this, you will be supporting my point that hentai is reaching out to a far wider underage audience which will have plentiful undesired effects because of the heavy sexual content.
This statement of yours also contradicts what the article has portrayed. I will take the article instead of your word sicne it is far more reliable.
I did not interpret your original post as such. After reading it again, I still do not see how it could be interpreted that way.
I guess this answers your question
With the popularisation of animes that employ sexual themes, yet are not classified within the hentai genre e.g: Love Hina - not saying Love Hina is bad, there will be increased assoication betweem Hentai and Anime. Let's face it
[QUOTE=Prak;678094]This quote makes absolutely no sense. If you knew anything at all about the history involved, you would know that hentai was a relatively late development. Anime had been making its way over to the U.S. for over two decades before hentai starting popping up on these shores.
Huh? What makes you think I�m concerned about advent of hentai in USA only? Of course I know hentai is relatively new to USA. However, please do not be ignorant of the fact it originated in Japan and had a much longer history � and it had negative impacts on their younger generation.
Common sense is necessary to put it in the proper context and examine it from a reasonable perspective. It applies to how you look at existing facts to find the underlying meaning in them.
So how would common sense aid me in uncovering how the association of hentai with anime was already long past its prime? Non-anime watchers can always develop the perception that anime was always associated with hentai and while anime watchers will carry on purchasing anime merchandise and works.
This is especially true in Japan where a great percentage of the population reads Japan comics/anime and only a slight proportion aren�t. Hence, it wouldn�t be easy to detect decrease in sales of DVD, which in itself, is a very inaccurate measure to gauge the performance of the anime industry.
Perhaps this is so, and I already acknowledge that you are not as bad as I had previously though. However, you are still an ignoramus who blindly spews nonsense on a topic you don't understand. I doubt that a single person here will see eye-to-eye with you or be swayed by anything you have to say. However, if I'm wrong about that, they're welcome to step forward and show their support for your position.
Quite obviously, you could not be bothered to read the posts others have made. But then again, I never expected you to unless you make such statements. I have the support of Tact so far. Besides, this topic had never demanded for any prerequisite knowledge of the anime industry thus far. It only seeks your opinion/or counter opinion on hentai.
I meant to say if people refuse to see that hentai is just a type of anime( as mecha, shoujo, kid, etc.) , Then it is ignorance. As for "in your case," I meant the situation, not you. ^_^; sorry about that.
I guess we could drop this then.
Hmmm...I have to honestly say that I've only been in the same situation as you a few times. But anime is very mainstream in the USA. It is on television. For Hentai DVDs, it's seperated from the anime dvd shelves. Mature manga is wrapped and the art is slightly censored.
But remember, you are the one who said that internet is the largest resource for hentai, h anime and the likes. So it would be logical to assume that people who are denied access to hentai would naturally look it up the internet. And this is highly probable too, considering the fact it is free-of-charge, much more discreet and mostly likely, the array of pieces offer is wider.
The only way you can even get hentai doujin is buying it off from the internet, getting it from a specialized store,going to an anime convention, or knowing a reallly good friend that can get you some of that stuff. So in most part, for people that I know that hardly know anime, the only thing they can think of is "Sailor Moon," or "Dragon Ball Z."
Look above.
Most people here find hentai on the internet. They can search "anime" or a specific title of an anime in an Image category and find both regular or hentai images. Or are introduced to it from a friend who is more knowledgeable. ^^ So yes, I agree with you, in circumstances like the one I posted above.
I guess we�ve come to a conclusion here too.
Ah.... >.> Well, then.
You didn't specify that before. I mean, you did but...not this directly.
I did it state here:
With the popularisation of animes that employ sexual themes, yet are not classified within the hentai genre e.g: Love Hina - not saying Love Hina is bad, there will be increased assoication betweem Hentai and Anime. Let's face it
But I apologise if it wasn�t clear enough. So can we discuss this then?
Yet, some kid can be flipping channels, and find that program on, seeing Sarah Jessica Parker getting naked with some other guy. Hentai does reach out to a mature audience as well. Let me put it this way...Some things are easily availabe to minors, while other things are not.
Wait, wait, we are drifting from the main point � the difference between hentai and Sex in the City.
If we were to analyse the focus, Sex in the City actually bothers to characterise the cast. There was a rather complex plot involved � and the reason is because Sex in the City does not only focus on sex itself but also the interpersonal interactions amonmg iots characters. Look at other similar shows: Desperate Housewives, Grey�s Anatomy�This are shows with very relatively little sex content,I know, but the inclusion of sex is only to propel the show�s allure, because sex scenes can be funny.
But hentai focuses on sex solely, leaving little or no time for character development because hentai is just about sex. It aims to satisfy your sexual cravings because if it doesn�t, its performance in the market would sustain an acute decrease.
See what I mean by the major difference between Sex in the City and hentai.
Regarding your answer above: You would agree with me that the sexual content in Sex in the City is comparably, milder than in those X-rated hentai series. There is an invisible tolerance level in all countires pertaining to sex and Sex in the City crosses the border just so it is allowed to be screened, and so there is a reason why Hentai sin;t screened. Catch my drift?
^^ Well, yeah...but women volunteer for it, and they make a lot of money. Some women are fine with that kind of lifestyle. I personally wouldn't want to live that way, but people have their own ways of making money.
Often enough,they didn't volunterr. They were merely victims of their testosterone-filled boyfriends.
^^ And men buy it more because of women. Women are on the front cover of pornography videos. No guy wants to see another guy's penis unless they're gay. Women dominate the pornography industry, whether h-anime or reality. As for hentai anime...I'm more grateful that it's just a piece of drawing on paper.
Yea, but my point stands, doesn't it? Anyway, this is off track to the main point. Shall we drop this?
^^ There isn't much difference than that.I've never seen hentai available to kids, though. Realistic porn, yes. Hentai, no.
What do you define as kids? Because the article you provided proved 11 years old is old enough...
And as you can see, from all this, hentai really does corrupt children�s minds with sex, more sex and much more sex.
^^ It's always been unfair on women...Look at women in history. I'm not really surprised.
Agreed, be it in the political scene, workplace or domestic field. Women have it worse in developing Asian countries but females in Western countries are generally leading more liberal lifestyles. Whoops, out of point. Dropped.
^^ O_o I saw on this one site, they have some kind of sex festivals...embracing their sexuality, I guess. xD It's so weird....hmm...I believe everything is influenced by an action. Hentai is fantasy, or even based on realistic scenarios. It's possible someone can go have an affair with a next door neighbor, and even post it on video. Sexual fantasy derived from the mind or impulses of a person. It happens. @_@ Gosh, it must sound weird to you. It's hard for me to explain it, actually. *can't really find the words.*
Yea, so don�t think Asian countries are less tolerant towards sex. You�ll be surprised. But then again, it doesn�t really have anything to do with the topic at hand�drop? We've really went off a degree or two.
^^ you're so welcome. I'm curious to know about your country too.
I live in a country which used to ban the sale of candy chewing gum and oral sex. Go figure.
But actually, I like living here very much.
^^ Hmm? Hentai isn't actually a big issue in the US. Its more like Online predators, child pornography, and negligent parents. I'm curious to know what you mean by the last sentence.
I've heard alot about the teenagers of America. I know it isn't generic, but the average American teenager is more open towards the notion of casual sex, pornography and thats why we hear cases of rape...very frequently.
^^ ^_^;;; I can say this much. Not a lot of kids look their age anymore. I'm 22 and I look like a minor I think 14 at the youngest. I have a friend who's 16, and she looks like she's 20. And people don't bother to ask the age of minors, but they sell it to them regardless. Depends on the place.
Youth is a strange phase we all go trhough. We pray so hard to grow up into adults but when we actually starting working, we wish we were still school-going.
Anyway, so you've actually reinforced my point which asserts that having extra packaging, restricted excess to h animes are actually useless since �it depends on the place� and most of the time, money making precedes policies in most stores.
^^ XD I didn't know that there was still that kind of stereotype going around...I still thought it was about taking some younger girl's virginity and taking panties....Dun ask.
There�s nothing glorious about 'raping' a girl. Period.
^^ Hentai was expanded greatly in the west because of it being mainstream online. ^^;
Once again, does this not bear testimony to my point that most kids are resorting to online resources to fulfil their curiosity and urges?
^^ XD I meant to put he/she. It was a typo. Sorry! =D I really couldn't tell by your username, though. That one guy thought you were a chick too!!! ;__;
You are pardoned, lol.
^^ If you think that's horrible...look at this article.This manga, dealing with teenage issues, was treated like it was a full blown adult comic. I've read that series, and it doesn't come anything close to hentai. If it was a non pictured book with just text, I'm sure the mother wouldn't have said a damn thing. She didn't know anything about hentai, but...ugh. >_> I call it ignorance at it's finest. xD
I guess we�ve more or less, reached a consensus here then.
^^ Just out of curiousity, are you a college student?
LOL, why?
^^ also. its very noob to post the flame warriors pics in the middle of a discussion especially when you choose the wrong warriors to label people with!
Sigh, let every kitten have her day, lest she evolves to become something more 'malicious'. You see, simply sniping and instigating others instead of engaging one in a debate makes her presence as useful as a lap dog.
Valerie Valens
10-27-2006, 01:05 PM
good thing i haven't had a war in here. i wuv everyone (in bed)! ^^
Fixed! *snicker*
Maybe I'll care enough to reply to this thread again later, but Asuran Zala's last reply was just so ridiculous that I can't bring myself to attack it right now.
It's pretty hilarious that he bases most of his argument around a single article about a very minor controversy and considers it sufficient justification to brush aside any opposing views. Perhaps if I were to write an article with the opposite position and publish it on some random news site, I could link to it and have him take it seriously.
Starscream
10-27-2006, 03:10 PM
Basicallly, it's a load of bullshit.
Black Paladin
10-27-2006, 03:16 PM
Asuran, you have far too much time on your hands. So much so that it is laughable. Just bugger off, you haven't got the knowledge nor the skill to engage Prak in battle.
tygerchickchibi
10-27-2006, 05:02 PM
American parents complain about hentai magazines being distributed in libraries:
http://www.local6.com/news/5497816/detail.html#/index.html with courtesy of TCC.
>_> Uhm...
That's not a hentai magazine, dear. That's a Teen Rated Manga. It deals with a high school girl who's misjudged by her skin color, and she's just trying to be herself. She has a friend who's basically a bitch...blah blah blah...
It's just about life, and I thought it was a great novel. They show this same scenario on television shows. I started reading that manga when I was in high school, actually.
Hentai magazines are not distrubuted in libraries. This mother obviously didn't realize that the book was rated for older teens, the library DID put the books in the right spot. It was themed for YOUNG ADULTS. The library didn't check to make sure that she was old enough to read it,however.
But If it was all written in text before instead of artwork, and the storyline was the same, I bet you anything that the mother wouldn't have looked.
Keyword here:
Local 6 News reported that the comic titled "Peach Girl" is about a young girl drugged by her friends and then set up to be raped.
WRONG. The news always takes things out of proportion. (Not to mention that it was my favorite novel, so it made me really mad.)
Genres: Romance, Shoujo, Slice of Life
Plot Summary:It's not easy being beautiful. The envy, the jealousy, the vicious rumors spread by your best friend. That's life for young Momo. While everyone thinks that Momo is a wild party girl, the reality is that she is shy and lonely. Can Momo confess her love to her classmate, Toji, or will her best friend Sae steal him away. It's a bittersweet drama of growing up and fitting in that will charm readers everywhere.
Does it really seem like a hentai magazine to you because of what the mother said?
Funimation just licensed the anime to be shown in the US. Funimation does not produce hentai series.
Often enough,they didn't volunterr. They were merely victims of their testosterone-filled boyfriends
That's not neccessarily true. You should watch some documentaries about the people workinh in the business. A lot of women admit to loving that type of job. Women have a lot more freedom than you think. My boyfriend's ex girlfriend was a stripper by choice. She's now a playboy model. She's happy with herself, so...
More testosterone-filled boyfriends in the US are more of a jelaous nature. Abusing boyfriends want to keep their girlfriends to themselves, having major anger problems, and are extremely violent; resorting to killing if they have too.
I've heard alot about the teenagers of America. I know it isn't generic, but the average American teenager is more open towards the notion of casual sex, pornography and thats why we hear cases of rape...very frequently.
Hearing and actually being here is a major difference. And its not always because of pornography. It could be a case of abuse from a parent or some sick bastard that lived next door. I can tell you this because it's happened to me in real life. Not in America, but out of the states. Even so, I still managed to live a normal life. Most cases are from online predators, or people that are randomly abducted on the streets. There are stupid girls out there that just want a baby. But it hasn't been so much of an influence as it used to be.I think it was pretty bad some time ago.
Regarding your answer above: You would agree with me that the sexual content in Sex in the City is comparably, milder than in those X-rated hentai series. There is an invisible tolerance level in all countires pertaining to sex and Sex in the City crosses the border just so it is allowed to be screened, and so there is a reason why Hentai sin;t screened. Catch my drift?
Ah, I remember a hentai series that was similiar to Sex & the City.
But it didn't show much nudity except for boobies. But it had the same theme as SC.
Most hentai have character development, actually. There are series with more than just 3 episodes. Bible Black has excellent character development. Yes, I know it has sex and blah blah blah, but I thought the storyline was really good, and it has a lot of references that I didn't know was actually real.
I want to see how the story ended, becauseit left fans with a cliffhanger. If this sounds a little nerdy, oh well..I don't care.
There�s nothing glorious about 'raping' a girl. Period.
No kidding. I met a sex hungry ex boyfriend. Hence the relationship didn't really last. >_>;;; I refused him...and actually...xD He was a year younger than me. After we broke up, he and his stupid friends had a bet like that, and well...he won. It wasn't rape, but...Stupid high school boys. >_< *sticks a fork in this topic*
Anyway, so you've actually reinforced my point which asserts that having extra packaging, restricted excess to h animes are actually useless since �it depends on the place� and most of the time, money making precedes policies in most stores.
Not exactly. I don't really recall anything like that happening to agree with you, but I'm not saying it isn't possible either. Shoplifting is really a most likely way people will get items they can't pay for. As for age, we're pretty serious about that stuff. We all do what we can to prevent situations from happening.
Once again, does this not bear testimony to my point that most kids are resorting to online resources to fulfil their curiosity and urges?
Not really. People are well aware of adult themed sites and are taking action to block access from their children. You can't access it in the library obviously. It's not very easy anymore. Most threats from online activity are IMs and chatting. Hell, even being on this forum is dangerous.
Sigh, let every kitten have her day, lest she evolves to become something more 'malicious'. You see, simply sniping and instigating others instead of engaging one in a debate makes her presence as useful as a lap dog.
Eh....?
Maybe I'll care enough to reply to this thread again later, but Asuran Zala's last reply was just so ridiculous that I can't bring myself to attack it right now.
xD It was too long for me...I'm exasperated trying to type anything. My brain is so tired from all the reading....I'm gonna take a nap to recover. @__@
tygerchickchibi
10-27-2006, 06:13 PM
Basicallly, it's a load of bullshit.
I like your avatar. Good movie, was it not?
Starscream
10-27-2006, 06:40 PM
Excellent movie
*Angel*
10-27-2006, 06:51 PM
wow look at this thread...
a simple question magnified by a 1000.
hentai is hentai and no matter how unessiary*spelling um...?* anyone thinks it is, it's still gonna be there.
I mean come on, if it wasn't what would all the loney losers in the would masterbate too?:-D
regular porn i think. :p good thing i have my hentai. :D
and Joan-Michelle! how did you know? O_o lol
Valerie Valens
10-28-2006, 06:11 AM
wow look at this thread...
a simple question magnified by a 1000.
hentai is hentai and no matter how unessiary*spelling um...?* anyone thinks it is, it's still gonna be there.
I mean come on, if it wasn't what would all the loney losers in the would masterbate too?:-D
Your mom lol
Masaka_Naraku
10-28-2006, 09:11 AM
wow look at this thread...
a simple question magnified by a 1000.
hentai is hentai and no matter how unessiary*spelling um...?* anyone thinks it is, it's still gonna be there.
I mean come on, if it wasn't what would all the loney losers in the would masterbate too?:-D
True. Just because you dont like it. Dosent mean its gonna go away. Hell. I still have to suffer Naruto in the uk and they are promoting it ugh (Help me!). I know thats not going away So I live with it.
Aria Blue
10-28-2006, 09:48 AM
I love Hentai. I also love Yaoi/Boy's Love, Yuri, Shotakon, Lolikon, and everything else inbetween all that. :D Granted I know just how bizarre it can get and many people find it a bit unsettling, but i'm very used to it and I'm not complaining at all.
In fact, there are a few things that I really shouldn't be okay with, but actually am. xD
revenge17
10-29-2006, 02:43 AM
I love Hentai. I also love Yaoi/Boy's Love, Yuri, Shotakon, Lolikon, and everything else inbetween all that. :D Granted I know just how bizarre it can get and many people find it a bit unsettling, but i'm very used to it and I'm not complaining at all.
In fact, there are a few things that I really shouldn't be okay with, but actually am. xD
i agree, i like hentai too ^_^ but i also do agree it can get pretty nasty lol but then again so can regular porn... im just not into the tentacles and monster stuff -_-
Asuran Zala
10-29-2006, 04:54 AM
Asuran, you have far too much time on your hands. So much so that it is laughable. Just bugger off, you haven't got the knowledge nor the skill to engage Prak in battle.
Er...it may do you good too, to cease your sucking up to Prak because its even more hilarious. Not to mention, obvious, considering the fact it isn't just this once. ;-)
And yea, may I inquire what is funny about having alot of time? I'm holidaying here and how I wish to use my time is definitely my decision. Bug off, ya?
That's not neccessarily true. You should watch some documentaries about the people workinh in the business. A lot of women admit to loving that type of job. Women have a lot more freedom than you think. My boyfriend's ex girlfriend was a stripper by choice. She's now a playboy model. She's happy with herself, so...
Are we talking only about American woman here? Because prostitution encompasses women from different countries. Yeah, sure, I know many women love having sex and are willing to do so for money, but look at Africa, many women have been prostituting themselves for over twenty years and they told their interviewers they no longer feel humane. They need the money to support their family and live.
So linking with the topic, when the men beds the women, she is looked upon as a slut while the man exits the whorehouse, his reputation scathfree.
More testosterone-filled boyfriends in the US are more of a jelaous nature. Abusing boyfriends want to keep their girlfriends to themselves, having major anger problems, and are extremely violent; resorting to killing if they have too.
But it is true that in most cases, the sexual needs of males far surpasses that of a female, which itself, is a source of much friction in marriages.
Hearing and actually being here is a major difference. And its not always because of pornography. It could be a case of abuse from a parent or some sick bastard that lived next door. I can tell you this because it's happened to me in real life. Not in America, but out of the states. Even so, I still managed to live a normal life. Most cases are from online predators, or people that are randomly abducted on the streets. There are stupid girls out there that just want a baby. But it hasn't been so much of an influence as it used to be.I think it was pretty bad some time ago.
Er...lol. Okay, point taken.
Most hentai have character development, actually. There are series with more than just 3 episodes. Bible Black has excellent character development. Yes, I know it has sex and blah blah blah, but I thought the storyline was really good, and it has a lot of references that I didn't know was actually real. I want to see how the story ended, becauseit left fans with a cliffhanger. If this sounds a little nerdy, oh well..I don't care.
A few h animes do aim at developing their characters, but most of them don't. It is safe to generalise that almost all hentai do not actually bother to fully introduce their characters.
Just look at all the hentai spinoffs from regular animes - Almost every page is action. The readers don't care for other side detail. I guess I made my point here. It is good that Bible Black can keep you in suspense, but I would safely say very other few titles can hook you for the right reason here.
No kidding. I met a sex hungry ex boyfriend. Hence the relationship didn't really last. >_>;;; I refused him...and actually...xD He was a year younger than me. After we broke up, he and his stupid friends had a bet like that, and well...he won. It wasn't rape, but...Stupid high school boys. >_< *sticks a fork in this topic*
Erm? Let's drop this haha.
Not exactly. I don't really recall anything like that happening to agree with you, but I'm not saying it isn't possible either. Shoplifting is really a most likely way people will get items they can't pay for. As for age, we're pretty serious about that stuff. We all do what we can to prevent situations from happening.
Then why did you say that underage people still can get their hands on R-rated animes through a variety of ways, looks...
If they can bypass the system, then then it merely supports my opinion. There's also no need to delve in complicated procedures. A minor can simply get an odler companion to purchase the magazine for him/her.
Not really. People are well aware of adult themed sites and are taking action to block access from their children. You can't access it in the library obviously. It's not very easy anymore. Most threats from online activity are IMs and chatting. Hell, even being on this forum is dangerous.
I know quite a few about all the implementations made to bar access to pornographic websites. Ironically, a simple Reader Digest's survey showed that around 83% of adults wtach pornography on a frequent basis, 33% in their workplaces and most of these activities occur at night.
Once again, this is proof that temptation > technology.
Sigh, let every kitten have her day, lest she evolves to become something more 'malicious'. You see, simply sniping and instigating others instead of engaging one in a debate makes her presence as useful as a lap dog.
It wasn't targeted at you. I was just replying to Tact.
Edit: Tact, I was replying to your post. But if you've forgotten about it, leave it be...
who said what about me now?
tygerchickchibi
10-29-2006, 05:47 PM
Are we talking only about American woman here? Because prostitution encompasses women from different countries. Yeah, sure, I know many women love having sex and are willing to do so for money, but look at Africa, many women have been prostituting themselves for over twenty years and they told their interviewers they no longer feel humane. They need the money to support their family and live.
So linking with the topic, when the men beds the women, she is looked upon as a slut while the man exits the whorehouse, his reputation scathfree.
Yeah, I understand that. However, I doubt Africa is any influenced by pornography or hentai. Thats the least of their worries.
But it is true that in most cases, the sexual needs of males far surpasses that of a female, which itself, is a source of much friction in marriages.
Hahahahaha.....xD Really. I don't think so. Man, ever heard of that show called "cheaters?" Just to let you, know women can be just as horrible as men are. Men have feelings too, you know. They're probably not going to admit it as easily as women, but its there. I've seen it happen.
A few h animes do aim at developing their characters, but most of them don't. It is safe to generalise that almost all hentai do not actually bother to fully introduce their characters.
Just look at all the hentai spinoffs from regular animes - Almost every page is action. ]
Well, I don't know how many episodes you need to fully introduce your characters. For example, there's a show on TV called The Outer Limits. Every episode have a different character, and a fresh story. Hentai spinoffs from regular anime, eh? A giant percentage would already know who the characters are and the storyline of the series.
The readers don't care for other side detail. I guess I made my point here. It is good that Bible Black can keep you in suspense, but I would safely say very other few titles can hook you for the right reason here.
Don't count your chickens before they hatch. =P
Then why did you say that underage people still can get their hands on R-rated animes through a variety of ways, looks...
If they can bypass the system, then then it merely supports my opinion. There's also no need to delve in complicated procedures. A minor can simply get an odler companion to purchase the magazine for him/her.
R-Rated animes don't have to be hentai. I was saying that people don't look their age anymore because its true.
If an older companion is purchasing contraband items to a minor, then it's not the contraband that's influencing them directly. It's the older companion. He/she is setting a horrible example for a child. For example, a lot of people buy video games for their children that aren't even appropiate for their ages. My little brothers have the game HALO. One is 8, and the other is 10. That game is rated M. People had a big uproar over Grand Theft Auto because of the violence, but who's fault is it that? The parents bought it for their children, or let their friends borrow it.
To be honest, I think a lot of parents are particulary closed-minded. I'll explain about that later, when I feel like writing more, that is.
I know quite a few about all the implementations made to bar access to pornographic websites. Ironically, a simple Reader Digest's survey showed that around 83% of adults wtach pornography on a frequent basis, 33% in their workplaces and most of these activities occur at night.
Once again, this is proof that temptation > technology.
YES, ADULTS. That's not a big deal to me because I had witnessed that in the workplace too. I walked out of an office into another area in the building, and I caught a quick glance of two of my male co-workers looking at a nude woman. They quickly minimized it, and acted like nothing was wrong, but I didn't say anything. I didn't care, as long as I wasn't getting fired for it. >_> I wanted to be left out. I couldn't help laughing after I left, because it made all three of us feel awkward. I'm sure they knew that I saw something, but I'll never know.
I already said that people used technology for that kind of thing. It doesn't have to be pornography, but most of it also is contributed by identity theft, online predators, and scams, blah blah blah.
It wasn't targeted at you. I was just replying to Tact.
It still sounded weird, though. Hey, you never answered my question earlier. Are you a college student?
@__@;;; I shouldn't really type when I'm still tired...
Marquis of Guilford
10-29-2006, 08:30 PM
OP: I HAVE AN OPINION!!!
Personally, I think that a very tenuous grasp of sexuality is the norm in this thread and objectively, I can't find anything wrong with hentai, in fact... to some bizzare degree, I wonder how much benefit there would to be replace live pornography with hentai. Most people who have a problem with hentai have no valid point or interest in the betterment of people, they simple have a moral stand to make against everyone who doesn't think like them!
Edit: Lolicon though, you're not going to convince me that animated child pornography isn't at all perverse.
further edit: All you people claiming that hentai is for 'losers who cant get any' are sexually regressive zealots, masturbation is perfectly normal, regardless of what some fascist told you about growing hair on the palms of your hands.
tygerchickchibi
10-29-2006, 09:12 PM
I like you. *hugs* ^_^
Hayato
10-30-2006, 03:15 AM
What I dont like about it is when its about a game/anime I like, and then I see people downloading or talking about it, I just tend to ignore them.
Marquis of Guilford
10-30-2006, 05:08 AM
I'd be more worried about associating with people who openly discuss their desire to MASTURBATE OVER TIFA.
Ilavos
10-30-2006, 05:57 AM
9805 views...386 replies.That pretty much says it all.
*Angel*
10-30-2006, 06:34 PM
Your mom lol
You are so immature
GTFO:-D
9805 views...386 replies.That pretty much says it all.
Lol true true... you are very observent
Ilavos
10-31-2006, 09:56 AM
*sniff* *sniff*.Do i smell sarcasm?lol
*Angel*
10-31-2006, 07:17 PM
*sniff* *sniff*.Do i smell sarcasm?lol
No... i actually did laugh at your post, i never really looked at things such as thread views and post counts.:-D
Ilavos
10-31-2006, 09:26 PM
Oh ok.I was just thrown off by the suspension points there.Guess u use them everytime.Anyways,back on topic then i guess.
tygerchickchibi
11-15-2006, 03:12 AM
It's been so long since I've been on this thread. Just wanted to say hi again. ^^
sniperwolf127
11-15-2006, 11:57 AM
i say to each their own i mean. its an outlet for some people and their twisted dark sides. i mean if it stops a guy from having his way with a girl without her consent i'm all for it. its a double sided coin in that regard. i agree that there is some really sick stuff out there. a lot of times you find it when your looking for something else. but hey lets face facts people. hentai is a type of porn. porn is all over the internet. if you took away all the porn sites off the internet. there would only be one site left with alot of pissed off people saying where's the porn and demanding it back lol. well i mean they make animes with a gaggle of girls and one guy and alot of fanservice gee i wonder why it sells? doesnt' take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. i mean hentai is fantasy so the skies the limit. i'm all for it in that regard. saying its good or bad though thats just personal opinion. and for the record everyone has a dark side its just some people not as twisted as others.
Arkhetype
11-21-2006, 09:28 PM
I like Asian Women the real thing with real bodies. You cant get shit from a cartoon but a hand cramp
epsilon
11-21-2006, 10:34 PM
I say that hentai is somewhat better than real porn. Why? because in real porn its producers take benefit from exploited women, and in hentai its just their drawing skill.
Just to make it clear I like hentai but not the rape one nor the tentacle one.
narutolost
11-26-2006, 11:05 PM
エウウウウウ。。。
TonYK
12-03-2006, 12:47 PM
there just tech u how to do 'that thing' when u grow up u knw thts not disgusting..but u say u can't stand it..!are u can't stand again?!?!but i hate hentai have BIG CUP like G cup..it make me fell disgusting>.<!!
CrisisHero
12-03-2006, 12:58 PM
Personally, I don't like Hentai. I just don't see the craze and I don't see the point. Though most of you will just go 'Pfft, I dont care' at my statement so I'll just shut up now. :-\
Graffiti
12-03-2006, 01:07 PM
9805 views...386 replies.That pretty much says it all.
people are too scared to post in this thread?
telesporo
12-04-2006, 03:04 AM
Sometimes, I like watching Hentai but I prefer real porn.
g1Ov0onI3X4tE
12-05-2006, 01:51 PM
:love:I LOVE HENTAI!!!:love:
High-Five... :D
...anyone???:confused:
...:erm:
*fap fap fap*
RufustheSage
12-06-2006, 04:12 AM
I like it, I had a few books on my computer but deleted them a little while ago. I mostly like translated hentai though, I like to read about it too. Original story lines are better than Final Fantasy (or another series) hentai though, it kinda ruins the world seeing Tifa f'ing with Vincent and Yuffie jumps in -_ -. Some of the art is really, really good as though, I guess it's just a matter of taste.
-Rufus
tygerchickchibi
12-06-2006, 06:35 PM
It is a matter of taste, in a sense.
TonYK
12-07-2006, 02:16 AM
I hate hentai b'coz there use ff artist to do digusting thing!!!but...when see im execiting her move~.~(IT MAKE ME STAND UP!!!)
Black_Knight
12-07-2006, 03:45 AM
It is a matter of taste, in a sense.
The penis of Bible Black make me feel like I should go and buy a pump... Damn you female mushrooms!
tygerchickchibi
12-07-2006, 04:13 AM
The penis of Bible Black make me feel like I should go and buy a pump... Damn you female mushrooms!
xD Don't blame me! It's all drawn weird. Glad to meet another BB fan, though.
Masaka_Naraku
12-15-2006, 06:34 PM
It is a matter of taste, in a sense.
True ^^
Zachron
12-18-2006, 06:56 PM
people are too scared to post in this thread?
Naw, they're just waiting for someone to either A.) say something that hasn't been said in the thread already, or B.) post a link. lol.
grymmrosso
12-18-2006, 08:31 PM
When I first saw Hentai in 2000 I thought it was limited to just anime, video games and maybe a few toons. Now, anything is hentai fodder, even Mythbusters!
mythbusters? the show on the science channel? wtf?
grymmrosso
12-19-2006, 01:08 AM
Yeah. It exists.
O_o
that's all i can say. that's just sick. there arne't even chicks in that snow. >.<
tygerchickchibi
12-19-2006, 06:01 AM
What do you mean? There are chicks on that show.
grymmrosso
12-19-2006, 10:42 PM
yes, but all they drew were the guys.
mythbusters is just two guys busting myths. (most of which are like i never even heard of them so the show is boring now -_-)
any chicks are prolly like interns or nobodies with no names and stuff. most hentai doujin or whatever are always interesting cause you KNOW the characters you know their names. if there are no names, its not interesting. so to me, mythbusters has no chicks cause they simply have no chicks.
and the guys are fugly so that just makes it more gross. >.<
Hogan
12-20-2006, 03:23 AM
That is so ridiculous I almost want to find it. It's like a terrible car crash you don't want to look but that morbid curiosity will probably get the best of you.
I've never looked at Hentai before, so I don't know where I stand on this issue. When I think of Hentai, I always imagine an image of Yuffie gettin' it on with Red XIII... Or something. I had that picture on my computer once, pretty fucked up right there, man. xD
tygerchickchibi
12-20-2006, 05:56 AM
mythbusters is just two guys busting myths. (most of which are like i never even heard of them so the show is boring now -_-)
Whaa? There are 2 of them, and an Asian guy who are on there in a lot of episodes. I'm surprised you haven't seen them on yet.
x_x and yeah, the show has gotten boring, so I watch it every once in a while, but when I do, there aren't just only the two you see in the series.
oh i think i remember now. you mean the gueani pigs they use to test their crap on? like the time they wanted to see what can get rid of poison ivy/oak?
and they tried it on some guys and a chick and tried diffrent remedies...
yah. they have no name. just some noob intern gueani pigs or something. :p
but if they do appear all the time now, yah it would make it somewhat interesting now that i think about it. :D
tygerchickchibi
12-20-2006, 10:34 PM
Hahaha, Guinea Pigs
Lil' Sain
12-21-2006, 03:02 AM
:love:I LOVE HENTAI!!!:love:
High-Five... :D
...anyone???:confused:
...:erm:
*fap fap fap*
umm wash your hand first....
no hentia (or is it hentai) is gay
Raidenex
12-21-2006, 03:48 AM
umm wash your hand first....
no hentia (or is it hentai) is gay
People who use 'gay' and 'fag' as derogatory terms are usually closet homosexuals themselves.
Just for the record.
Masaka_Naraku
12-21-2006, 08:46 PM
umm wash your hand first....
no hentia (or is it hentai) is gay
I Think you got confused with Yaoi. THATS gay *Ahem*
Unless you like Yuri......I..Don't watch that Yuri stuff *shudders*
Ahem.
I've never looked at Hentai before, so I don't know where I stand on this issue. When I think of Hentai, I always imagine an image of Yuffie gettin' it on with Red XIII... Or something. I had that picture on my computer once, pretty fucked up right there, man. xD
You wouldn't like to look at hentai then. If your a noob to the anime thing. DONT Watch hentai 1st. ( I had my moments of disturbance hell)
*shudders* Man.that thought sounds corrupted no offence. Lets change Red XIII To a Monster...Ahem....I wont let my dirty thoughts rule this time!
Ahem!
yah. back in the days, hentai was classy and nice. now a days it's just smutty and hardcore. if you got into hentai around the same year i did, (97/98) then you were ok. it was beatiful. simple yet effective. all you needed was like a centerfold shot or something and that was it. just thinking back on it makes me wanna go look at the pictures i saved a decade ago. lol
and how can someone shudder at yuri but not yaoi? unless your a chick...
but it's just so beatiful! if you can understand the "beauty" of two guys expressing their hot love for eachother than you should be able to see it in two girls. -_-
Masaka_Naraku
12-21-2006, 10:38 PM
Yes. I am a girl and....XDD
Do you want me to say about the Yuri shuddders thing again? well?
Yes. I am a girl and....XDD
Do you want me to say about the Yuri shuddders thing again? well?
yah that'd be great. it'll be like reading lemons. don't forget to be descriptive. :D
Masaka_Naraku
12-22-2006, 02:04 PM
*Laughs* But I CAN Understand why guys can like Yuri if girls like Yaoi.
So...
Least I know WHY they like Yuri in the 1st place.
In the end. They are both H Anime anyway.
So Hentai haters might probably HATE Yaoi and Yuri too...
Lets see...
tygerchickchibi
12-22-2006, 04:57 PM
So Hentai haters might probably HATE Yaoi and Yuri too...
Lets see...
Don't be surprised if they do... >_>;
I'm not a fan of either, but the artwork is nice.
Doomed Clone #3
12-22-2006, 06:41 PM
I've got news for you - without Hentai, there would be no such thing as Manga or Anime. The earliest Japanese artwork is erotic art - from there, Manga developed.
It's history. Which is probably the perfect way to stop the kiddies looking at it.
Not to mention, the hentai-obsessed nerds are always freaky - I know a friend who turned down a date with a drop-dead gorgeous chick (who was willing to get busy, iykwim) because he prefered to stay in and look at hentai.
Soooo so so true, ifact its been going years in japan and yes
its mostly called hentai or moe did you know you can get gundam wing condoms and naruto ones in japan. because i watched this program very interestin eh? !!
Masaka_Naraku
12-23-2006, 11:00 AM
Don't be surprised if they do... >_>;
.
Yeah. I can imagine there responses.
Hell. People may like perverted (or Adult content) stuff and can still be a normal person. (well....almost...)
People may like Adult stuff. So what?
I may like Yaoi but I'm keeping it low due to personal reasons.
Every industry always have adult materal so...what can you do? XD
General_Starr
01-03-2007, 05:25 PM
I will NUKE them, maybe.. with the nuclear virus program (similar to WinNuke but NOT derived from it) i am writing right now on my top-secret PC..*payloads may range from webpage wipers to webserve crashers/BIOS corruption payloads*
*Godd@mn power company we have here.. flickered off so i had to retype all this.. high time i got a UPS.*
I think these are the reasons for ppl's obsession for hentai is all about..
1. Erotic Non-Realism - Something like events that don't happen in RL (OR DO THEY??) like maybe the kawaii girl-next-door who moved in last week.. 'did you know that yesterday she was *running application msturb.exe* in her bedroom *thinking/fantasizing about you*?
2. Legality - NO ONE can chalenge the legality of this material, at least in the United States; you can get a 1-year term and get listed in the Sex Offender Registry if the FBI found even less than 1 GB of pr0n on your comp, but a hard dsik full of hentai does'nt bother them a bit. This is primarily beacause in almost every hentai title out there, all the voice actors are of legal age, and NO REAL ACTORS are used in making it, or are involved in the events that unfold in it.
3. Diversity - As it seems, for every kind of perv, there is an H-flick to suit their need. Nuff said.
4.Fanservice - 'OMG WTF Mickey is ******* Daisy...' (LOL at that) Well, we all have ideas/perceptions on how far one's imagination can go, but in an H-manga/anime illustrator or fanboy, anyhthing can happen. This is one of the reasons why i hate SOME titles/pics/webpages/mangas i have seen, and I WASNT LOOKING for them. *You know, the usual web search..'WTF IS THIS (insert fave normal anime charname in here) doing/being done by (unknown character) OMFG sick.. (rofl) * and i have seen some 8 year olds freak out on seeing Dora in a 3$0*e while doing a simple web image search in an Internet cafe, researching for their homework. And there are also some other things,like cheaply drawn/poorly done animation/sketches, misproportion (WTF is her breast size a double-F or something?) and unsightly/improperly done special effects.
5. Themes - Everyone has different tastes, and there are many themes an H-Flick can go, but i personally stick with love-based/Hetero-romance/comedy hentai that has a decent storyline, makes sense and has DECENT (i.e., properly drawn artwork) to go with it. Something like Moonlight Lady or Body Transfer. There are many more types, some of which are too gruesome to describe, and most of them just simply focus on eroticism and don't do anything about the crappy storylines.
If anyone wants to add some more, just go ahead. Kind of like your preference whether to read it or not, but please no flaming, as these are only my opinions, and i DO NOT imply that they be followed or used as guidelines, or mandatorily followed. And one more word for all who read this thread, hentai watchers or haters:
.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, JUST DONT WATCH IT!
.
and leave us H-flick watchers/readers be. After all, it depends on our OWN SELF-CONTROL, not yours; and wahtever the outcome for us will not affect you adversely.
That's my two centavos on this thread, and hope to get feedack. In the meantime, i'll be online pwning some n00bs, aimbots and HAXORING fags in Gunbound *GPS*(rlsengager), CS or CNC Generals ZH.
P.S.. i may be a hentai watching guy.. BUT i will never forgive if any of them ever feature a certain cast of characters! *lookit my sig lol*
tygerchickchibi
01-03-2007, 06:19 PM
Kudos for you, Star! =D
nice. this guy knows what he likes and what he doesn't.
*shakes his hand*
welcome. reminds me of when i used to hate seeing my fav characters in hentai as well. the funny thing is i forgot which ones bothered me and now i actually actively search for it. o_o
any new anime i see i NEED hentai of it now. prolly one i wouldn't like even to this day if they made it is macross but that's cause there ain't that many fine chicks in it anyway. other than that, i'm liking it all now. if only i could remember what used to offend me back then...hmm
General_Starr
01-04-2007, 03:03 AM
My sig refuses to show.. maybe i need to increase my post count.
How many posts does it take to make your sig appear?
and thx for the warm welcome ^_^
In the meantime, ill post it here. OMG MY HAXORZZ! Harharhar!
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To NUCLEAR hell with anyone who dares put any AMG characters on hentai!!*
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From May 26, 2003 to forever,
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*Fujishima-san and Co. EXCLUDED
Troubadour
01-04-2007, 05:21 AM
My response is, "Why do you care?", to the topic title. It's someone's porn, and if it gets their rocks off, well, who am I to point fingers at it? People jacked it to cave walls, paintings, scrolls, and whatnot way before photos. I also don't really understand why people get mad at having characters they recognize in their porn. I mean, it's basically fap material. Being attached to your cartoon characters like that is unhealthy anyway.
Now it's not really my cup of tea, but, like I said, it's someones. And in general, I just don't see what is "Ugh" about it. Some of the posts sound like 10 year old whining in a sort of "OMG THAT BOYS KISSING THAT GIRL, HES SO GAY" way. Grow up, really. Personally, the closest I'd get to any of that Japanese stuff for my own watching would be some AV stuff. Some pretty weird stuff in general happened when they weren't allowed to draw cocks in their porns. The mosaics in Japanese porn is another indicator of just how conservative the Japanese still are. Culturally, the biggest change in Japanese culture was the U.S. occupation by MacArthur that westernized and really modernized the lot.
What I can't stand though, are furries. Especially babyfur. Yiff in hell, furfags and all that jazz.
Sri Krishna
01-04-2007, 05:40 AM
I got no problem with it although I don't need to see demons with 20 dicks and such.
Alucard Collins
01-05-2007, 02:19 AM
We all have different moral opinions on this. I for one, don't care for yaoi but I know there are plenty of fangirls (and probably fanboys) who do enjoy it. Getting back on topic, hentai is what it is. There are certian hentai titles I enjoy such as Urotsukidoji and others that I wouldn't touch with a ten foot poll. In the end, if you don't like it, don't buy it/support it. I'm of the mind set that people have a right to buy whatever they wish as long as it doesn't hurt anyone or effect the overall moral fiber of society. Since hentai is something watched in a persons home and in private, it's not hurting anyone nor is it effecting society as a whole so long as parents keep it out of minors hands. That's my view on it... sorry for being so long-winded.
GateKeeper2000
01-06-2007, 08:09 PM
Well Ill throw my opinion into the mix:
I really enjoy it! And let me tell you they do a much better job making hentai with a story line than they do making regular porn with a story line...
La Blue Girl for example. Here you've got a comprehensive story with real characters and episodes and hentai is involved.
Then you've got regular porn where a chick orders a pizza, they pizza boy shows up, they do it. Its even worse when regular porn REALLY tries to have a story line.
All in all I like hentai and I don't care if anyone calls me a "perv" or a "sicko".
Persona0
01-17-2007, 07:18 PM
i hate hentai! it's very disgusting. they show cartoon characters doing disgusting things! i can't stand it! they show all this characters kissing and holding each other's... arrrghhh! it's disgusting! i hate hentai! what do you think of it?
hold on hold on the part you find disgusting about hentai is the kssing and holding!!! well i guess the force rap, sadomy, tentacle cumming and blood red cheeries doesnt seem that bad
Masaka_Naraku
01-18-2007, 08:00 PM
I only saw a little bit of Bible Black (Fandubbed not the horrid dub) but I saw the dub and it was shit. The nudity didn't bother me.
But I couldn't watch Sensitive Pornograph ^^;;
Every thing in a industry has a dirty thing in it.
Just Like anime but with Hentai,Yaoi and Yuri etc
EDIT :
i hate hentai! it's very disgusting. they show cartoon characters doing disgusting things! i can't stand it! they show all this characters kissing and holding each other's... arrrghhh! it's disgusting! i hate hentai! what do you think of it?
Actually Rape is far worse than the sex itself in my opinion.
Life does have disgusting things I'm afraid. I've put up with it.
i hate hentai! it's very disgusting. they show cartoon characters doing disgusting things! i can't stand it! they show all this characters kissing and holding each other's... arrrghhh! it's disgusting! i hate hentai! what do you think of it?
SOOO...instead of kissing and touching each other, sex should be staring each other till they come?
Brilliant!
skydin
01-25-2007, 02:43 AM
just for the record,hentai is BETTER than normal porn,i love it and im totaly bi for anime now...
anyway,i was just noticing that for a thread on hentai,very few ppl actualy posted links to hentai,which btw im in a fix for some FLCL hentai,some zelda hentai,and probably,no,definately inuyasha and FMA hentai.i cant find any anywhere for some reason,the only reason i found this place is i was looking of fooly cooly hentai,though now that ive seen it i love it.
and to all the hentai haters,you just dont like it because your anti-sexual and your bodies suck next to any of theirs.that is all.
there's a couple reasons why ther'es no links.
1. you are unworthy of any of my links
2. everyone here is unworthy of my links except for like 3 people
3. anyone coming here looking for links needs to learn how to find their own stuff
4. any pro hentai lover will already have all the links they need and know where and how to look
5. you are unworthy of my awesome links!
:p
hentaigirl82
01-25-2007, 03:28 AM
Im a girl and I have no problem with hentai, if anything its funny.
skydin
01-25-2007, 04:00 AM
in response to that i remove my pants(shamelessly stolen form some guy on the wizards of the coast dungeons and dragons message boards).number one,im a newb hentai searcher and need help,and two,worthyness has nothing to do with it as the internet is based on the concept of free tranferance of information to all who can afford the rediculous prices.most ppl i know who are into hentai would give sites to newbs just because they like their own ppl,but if that is not the case with you or any of your 3 freinds,you can bite me.-moons you-
also,furries rule,all furry haters must die!!!!
tygerchickchibi
01-25-2007, 05:13 PM
You still suck if you really can't find any good links. =)
It's really not that difficult, Einstein.
in response to that i remove my pants(shamelessly stolen form some guy on the wizards of the coast dungeons and dragons message boards).number one,im a newb hentai searcher and need help,and two,worthyness has nothing to do with it as the internet is based on the concept of free tranferance of information to all who can afford the rediculous prices.most ppl i know who are into hentai would give sites to newbs just because they like their own ppl,but if that is not the case with you or any of your 3 freinds,you can bite me.-moons you-
also,furries rule,all furry haters must die!!!!
haha. that's fine with me. i've always been very protective of my links. they took me forever to find. this was back in the day when there werne't message boards that just posted endless pictures. it was when you tried to find the free sites with no annoying ads ore requrined any registration of any sort and hoping you'd find what you were looking for and more. i always remember hating the paysites for having stuff the freesites didn't. that got me into cracking. (failed attmept btw so now i just leech the crackers) and then leech a site for all it's worth while the sign in is still good. it ain't easy. so why should i give it away when it cost me a lot of effort?
whenever i DO give links. it's always the cheapy ones with like only one gallery and no links to anything better. if there was any link i'd give it'd just be an xchan website. leech them. it's always good. i preffer the sources.
tygerchickchibi
01-26-2007, 01:30 AM
He's probably a minor, Tact.
skydin
01-26-2007, 03:36 AM
whatever,its cool,i just like mooning ppls...
anyway i dont have a problem finding the freesites most of the time,jsut trouble finding ones wth specific anime hentai,which im too impatient to look for extensively so just quit and mooch off of other ppls knowledge.i do know one site with lots of different types of hentai with zelda,flcl,inuyasha,and fma hentai(www.onlineanime.org) but im sick of those, btw,its nice to know there are actualy girls on this one,im sick of being the only one i know into this junk...
General_Starr
01-29-2007, 02:53 PM
whatever,its cool,i just like mooning ppls...
anyway i dont have a problem finding the freesites most of the time,jsut trouble finding ones wth specific anime hentai,which im too impatient to look for extensively so just quit and mooch off of other ppls knowledge.i do know one site with lots of different types of hentai with zelda,flcl,inuyasha,and fma hentai(www.onlineanime.org) but im sick of those, btw,its nice to know there are actualy girls on this one,im sick of being the only one i know into this junk...
lol, I'm into it, but not as much as most people here. I spend most of my time pwning n00bs.. way better feeling when i do that, BTW; too many n00bs out there online nowadays.
Im mostly into straight love-based h-anime, something like Body Transfer, Pia Carrot, Moonlight Lady, etc. and i dunno why. But so far, all of my hentai stuff havent beaten Ah My Goddess on viewing time.. and on the space they occupy on my hard disks. *Approx. 30 Gb an AMG alone hehe LOL im not kidding.. and due to go 40 when Season 3 comes out* And to note that it isnt hentai at all.
There are ways to find hentai, my friend.. if u are intelihente' enough and an adult at proper age. There's P2P, but not much there.. Usenet *oh i just found out that this sux mah b@lls.. you need to pay 'em.. and yet there's no guarantee you'l find what youre looking for.. damn myself for wasting $20 on em* and then there's the ever-so-trusty, ever-so-reliable, and ever-so-free Bittorrent network. If you know how to look for torrent sites and you know how to let it 'seed' your download once it is completed (which most grumpy n00bs don't do) then you're good to go. Lemme start you off here:
www.animeyuki.org
www.gotwoot.net
www.boxtorrents.com
Register, go to forums, and please please seed after downloading!
NS@Tact: i bet you have links to loadsa stuff, like mebbe licensed(?) hentai-anime never hosted on torrent before.. and some of them are h4xored.. I hope to find 'em soon. In d meantime, ns work and carry on, HentaiMaster ^_^ harharhar..
P.S. If i find any h-sites with AMG-based content on them, they're due to be reduced to digital nuclear waste anytime in the future.. Harharhar.. as soon as i finish making this viral payload.
tygerchickchibi
01-29-2007, 06:13 PM
Moonlight Lady was interesting, none the less....
xD I like NightShift Nurses. Not really for the activity..it was just fun to watch that bastard get what he deserved in the end....
>_> I'm pretty picky about it, that's for sure....But more for the storyline.
my main forte is pictures. they don't fill the gigs but the numbers do grow. (thousands upon thousands) they're easy. movies take too long and i'm kinda impatient. but i do have a good few here and there.
i've been using that user title for almost 10 years now btw. my very very first pics were sailor moon. and i always tried to find the best and the biggest. very rarely do i find anything new in that anime. everything i see on the net i already have. they don't make new sm pics anymore i guess.
aside from pics i do love collecting flash animations and games. flash is best cause they're mostly animated. unlike the now boring dating sims. i think all the good hentai games are japanese only. i know for a fact the japanese have full version games with animation. omg i want those so bad!! all the ones that get translated like from jastusa are just dating sims with NO animation whatsoever. >.< arg!!!! fucking annoying it just pisses me off. so booooring! i NEED animation. i need movement. sigh. at least they always get the expressions right in dating sims. very beatiful.
when it comes to movies, i could almost care less what type it is. so long as its colored and animted right. i guess now i can't stand the old hentai cause the style is dated and cheap. i love the new stuff. definately.
at the moment lolicon is ultra fav right now. i can't get enough of it in any medium. i don't know how it all got started. prolly after exploring chibi moon pics years ago. but now it's all i ever get now a days. O_o if i could find movies omg. heaven. >.<
Masaka_Naraku
01-29-2007, 10:41 PM
>_> I'm pretty picky about it, that's for sure....But more for the storyline.
I'm the same with Yaoi. XDD
You need a story line (also) instead of pointless sex all the time.
skydin
01-31-2007, 05:04 AM
bittorents,and pay to use sites i cannot use because i am in fact underage (15) and i lack a computer of my own,having to use my parents computers means i cant download anything or pay for anything and can really leave no traces of my h-anime findings.so really i cant find much i can use and when i do i usualy keep it on a list i have,but most have things i have already seen on other sites,or is in japanese(which i am trying to learn).
tygerchickchibi
01-31-2007, 05:13 AM
You're a naughty underage minor. I should tell your parents.
kairithepaladin
01-31-2007, 05:38 AM
I don't even want to know how any of this came about...
skydin
01-31-2007, 07:24 AM
girls mature so much faster than boys,it should be perfectly alright,plus they gave me internet access,its really all their fault,ya know?jsut because the internet revealed a bisexual streak for furrie hentai,does not mean they should cut off the pron right?
BerserkChip
01-31-2007, 07:55 AM
But why are girls so much more open about liking Yaoi then boys on Hentai?
Seriously! Gals! We understand that you like anime style gay man sex, but we don't need to be reminded of it with purses that say "I luv Yaoi" and the Yaoi trading cards!
Ugh. I hate Jersey.
Masaka_Naraku
01-31-2007, 04:17 PM
girls mature so much faster than boys,it should be perfectly alright,plus they gave me internet access,its really all their fault,ya know?jsut because the internet revealed a bisexual streak for furrie hentai,does not mean they should cut off the pron right?
Actually You're still underage so you shouldnt really Watch it. If you're parents found out they will be furious...
But why are girls so much more open about liking Yaoi then boys on Hentai?
Seriously! Gals! We understand that you like anime style gay man sex, but we don't need to be reminded of it with purses that say "I luv Yaoi" and the Yaoi trading cards!
Ugh. I hate Jersey.
I don't really show my Alter Ego Yaoi fangirlly ness in public. I'm not THAT obsessed XD
tygerchickchibi
01-31-2007, 06:16 PM
But why are girls so much more open about liking Yaoi then boys on Hentai?
Seriously! Gals! We understand that you like anime style gay man sex, but we don't need to be reminded of it with purses that say "I luv Yaoi" and the Yaoi trading cards!
Ugh. I hate Jersey.
Shut up. >_> You act like such a baby.
So what if girls are open about liking yaoi? Guys are open about liking Yuri, hentai or not. That includes porn too.
We still have to hear men brag about how the like women with big tits and lesbo action and all that other bullshit.
I'm not necessarily into Yaoi, but I don't think it's a big deal that a girl says she likes it. So what?
/me notices chibi's avatar. O_o
let's make babies!! >.<
BerserkChip
01-31-2007, 11:07 PM
But women are supposed to be the mature sex! XP
But in all seriousness, I just find Yaoi to be creepy. Not so much of the sexual part of it (though, I'll admitt its a big part of it), but because of what a lot of fan yaoi suggests about some of my favorite anime heroes.
Take, for instance, the yaoi relation of Naruto and Sasuke. A harmless rivalry turned into romance by Yaoi. It seems to me that friendships between shounen males, which I have always thaught of as innocent, is violated by Yaoi.
tygerchickchibi
02-01-2007, 12:48 AM
Beserk....
Most anime have been tainted to be hentai, whether, yaoi, yuri, or straight. You shouldn't let it bother you, ok?
Tact, I'd love to make anything with you. <3
Popo hater
02-01-2007, 01:11 AM
She's a super freak, super freak, she's super freaky
Beserk....
Most anime have been tainted to be hentai, whether, yaoi, yuri, or straight. You shouldn't let it bother you, ok?
Tact, I'd love to make anything with you. <3
let's bake a cake! ^^
a sexy cake. ;)
BerserkChip
02-01-2007, 05:47 AM
Most anime have been tainted to be hentai, whether, yaoi, yuri, or straight....
A damn fine point. pwned I be.
I guess I never thaught of it that way because there are so few shounen where the main character is a girl.... It's funny. In my action novel, my main protagonist is a female who's tougher than even goku.
They should make a shounen with a female main hero instead of a guy. It would work.
Masaka_Naraku
02-01-2007, 10:56 AM
They should make a shounen with a female main hero instead of a guy. It would work.
Maybe not.
So what if girls are open about liking yaoi? Guys are open about liking Yuri, hentai or not. That includes porn too.
?
I agree with you. Its not just girls who are open minded. Guys do the same thing.
GT_Stevo
02-01-2007, 03:11 PM
Hentai = teh sex. Literally. :-P
tygerchickchibi
02-01-2007, 05:00 PM
They should make a shounen with a female main hero instead of a guy. It would work.
Ever seen Blood the last Vampire? Real Bout High School? Kite? Ghost in the Shell? SAIKANO?
Even though they're action movies, it is directed towards a male audience, I'm sure. However, there are girls like me who like it too. =P
@_@ mmm....cake....That would be sexy.
grymmrosso
02-01-2007, 06:44 PM
just don't the cake with the Al Sharpton nipples. It scares me.
Popo hater
02-02-2007, 04:58 AM
Ever seen Blood the last Vampire? Real Bout High School? Kite? Ghost in the Shell? SAIKANO?
Even though they're action movies, it is directed towards a male audience, I'm sure. However, there are girls like me who like it too. =P
@_@ mmm....cake....That would be sexy.
But I like Motoko's boobies
Masaka_Naraku
02-02-2007, 11:05 AM
I thought the action was the main purpose. XDDD
tygerchickchibi
02-02-2007, 05:31 PM
xD It is. But you should know that the Male audience is most likely higher than female.
Valerie Valens
02-02-2007, 05:35 PM
I like yuri much more than yaoi, jftr
It's prolly cuz I'm not too fond of the skinny-as-a-rail girly type of boys.
lol
Silfurabbit
02-02-2007, 05:44 PM
Hentai is for ugly asians who know they are to ugly to make their own porn so the draw it.
tygerchickchibi
02-02-2007, 08:20 PM
LOL.
Thank you for proving how much of a jackass you are.
Popo hater
02-02-2007, 08:22 PM
LOL.
Thank you for proving how much of a jackass you are.
I got an e-mail notification with that in it and get so mad and typed out a huge paragraph and signed on then saw it was Niglet and she was talking to someone else and I deleted it and was happy :)!!!
tygerchickchibi
02-02-2007, 08:41 PM
Awww...Popo, I'll always luv you. *huggles.*
Popo hater
02-02-2007, 08:44 PM
-Hugs and puts a band-aid on her forehead-
tygerchickchibi
02-03-2007, 12:06 AM
XD actually...I had slit my wrist.... >_>;
Popo hater
02-03-2007, 01:19 AM
I will go to counseling with you and protect you from perverted doctors
Masaka_Naraku
02-03-2007, 10:07 AM
xD It is. But you should know that the Male audience is most likely higher than female.
True. But boys can also get attracted to the females ^^;; aww well XD
iTS LIKE Females who get attracted to guy characters aswell. Its the same. hehe
Hentai is for ugly asians who know they are to ugly to make their own porn so the draw it.
*Cries* You're soo mean. Ahem.We don't want any drama like "Hentai is discusting I hate it blah blah Oh nOES!!11"
RosaLaurus
02-03-2007, 04:53 PM
I watched a hentai once and it was... lame. XDDDD As if I thought it would have some kind of good story to it or something. X3 *le sigh* Oh well.
I think I enjoy reading the nasty instead of watching it. ;P
Masaka_Naraku
02-03-2007, 07:10 PM
Has anyone read any Manga in the hentai genre?
*Points at Yaoi*
Anime has been focused in this subject and what about the manga?
Popo hater
02-03-2007, 07:17 PM
Exit stage right -sidesteps out-
GT_Stevo
02-04-2007, 08:10 AM
Has anyone read any Manga in the hentai genre?
*Points at Yaoi*
Anime has been focused in this subject and what about the manga?
Hentai-manga is usually in yaoi-form because girls usually read more than guys do.
And yes, there are TONS of yaoi hentai out there. Type in a search for "yaoi manga" and you'll get a ton of hits.
Judge Bergan
02-04-2007, 11:14 AM
Hentai is funny. I watched one movie before where prostitutes and soldiers were having sex in the middle of nowhere to attract a giant penis monster so they could kill it. Then a giant naked lady came along, started having sex with the penis monster, and she killed it. Fantastic stuff.
Masaka_Naraku
02-04-2007, 12:25 PM
Hentai-manga is usually in yaoi-form because girls usually read more than guys do.
And yes, there are TONS of yaoi hentai out there. Type in a search for "yaoi manga" and you'll get a ton of hits.
True. I only read a few Yaoi manga. ^.^
And I know there's more Yaoi than Yuri.
tygerchickchibi
02-04-2007, 04:34 PM
Hentai is funny. I watched one movie before where prostitutes and soldiers were having sex in the middle of nowhere to attract a giant penis monster so they could kill it. Then a giant naked lady came along, started having sex with the penis monster, and she killed it. Fantastic stuff.
xD I wanna see it!!
Judge Bergan
02-04-2007, 08:41 PM
http://www.themanime.org/viewreview.php?id=762
Read this :)
Been a while since I watched it, could do with seeing it again - apparently, it was the Governments plan to get all these hookers to have sex with soldiers.
Man, I like funny hentai ;_;
PXG 360
02-04-2007, 08:52 PM
The closest thing I will ever get to hentia is reading the horrible hentia reviews on Some Awful (haha...funny shit!) Other than that, just the idea of watching that shit makes me want to throw up....hold..........*distant vomiting noises*
tygerchickchibi
02-04-2007, 09:35 PM
1. Hentai.
2.Sex makes you want to vomit?
Judge Bergan
02-04-2007, 10:52 PM
Why would cartoon sex make you vomit? Seriously, real sex would probably make me squeamish/vomit (Not seen real porn lolz). Hentai = not the real thing :3
Masaka_Naraku
02-04-2007, 11:31 PM
Why would cartoon sex make you vomit? Seriously, real sex would probably make me squeamish/vomit (Not seen real porn lolz). Hentai = not the real thing :3
People can be disturbed by hentai since its pornographic (Yes even the monsters). Even the haters (who say"ohitsodesgustingeeewwgross!!!").
Hentai can disturb me but I can get used to it (Points at Yaoi). I was qweasy while watching a Yaoi before but the other half of it. I didn't feel anything ^^
and IRL Pornographic stuff...I would feel sick If I watched any of those.
tygerchickchibi
02-05-2007, 01:01 AM
xD Animated sex is influenced heavily by sexual desires, imagination, and real sex!
There's nothing wrong with it, it was invented for procreation!
But with the pros, there are cons.
Porno is cheesy. lol. I can watch it, but I just think the acting is so retarded...
Ah...but the men are so hot.... xD
Hentai is better. lol.
KnightOfTerra
02-05-2007, 03:20 AM
Hentai is ok in certain doses. But I just hate it when a thread devoted to the discussion of hentai gets tainted when some God-loving, Bible-Thumping, virgin douchebag comes along and proclaims how he/she would never do that, or never read this, or never look at that....I got news for you: Celibacy is for losers who can't get laid, Abstinence...same reason, Hentai....is simply there to laugh and/or fap at.
PXG 360
02-05-2007, 06:12 PM
Watching hentai for the sake of getting a laugh is alright. Just because you watch hentai, doesn't make you a strange person, just that act in practicular I find odd. Hey, I don't like cheese, so I guess you can call me strange for that too. Whatever floats your boat, I guess is okay. All am trying to say is that I don't like hentai, but if ya'll like it, that's fine by me. Not trying to call anyone out here, just so you know.
tygerchickchibi
02-05-2007, 06:17 PM
Sexual acts are odd? ROFL.
PXG 360
02-05-2007, 06:27 PM
Sexual acts are odd? ROFL.
Forget it. You missed my point.
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