BobtheKnob out of business (Thread 210713)
Query (Thread 211067)
This thread is for those interested in sharing their thoughts on what the future of the Film Music Downloads section should look like.
It’s no secret that this section of the forum has been a source of contention for a while now for a variety of reasons.
Why have I made another thread on this matter? Because apparently there are a few things to iron out, and Bobtheknob’s thread is full of malarkey.
It’s for SERIOUS discussion only. No zingers, no one-liners, no casual conversation, and no mudslinging either.
If a person you don’t like posts something, don’t call him an ass muncher just because. Refrain yourselves. Ignore him, or better, enlighten us as to why he’s wrong.
For those who think it’s "not up to us" as to what happens – it isn’t. But Jessie and Leon seem kind enough to take user input into account for most of their decisions, so I figured that this thread would be a good way of gauging general user opinions. If you think this thread is a complete waste of time on my part, then don’t post in it. I’ll get the message. I’m not trying to be a prick, I’m trying to make this place less of a headache for our admins, moderators, and users. This isn’t the same website I joined in 2011 and I think the users of this board deserve better. If you really think I’m in the wrong here, leave me a message on my user page.
To start off I’d like to get people’s thoughts on the "reputation" system (i.e., the little green bars under your usernames) as well as PM-only threads (such as this one (Thread 210916)).
Personally I’d like to see both of them done away with. Reputation has been warped into a way for certain users to claim superiority over others (seriously!) and the PM-only threads exist only to distribute banned music material as well as prevent their Internet enemies from getting a link. In my eyes neither of them necessarily have any positive traits anymore.
Didn’t lordssp try to pull that same stunt for a while too?
Coincidentally these were both people who used the "leave comment for a PM" method.
I agree with you that it’d be a shame to see the rep bars go, but one or two people have ruined it for the rest.
Do sharing/warez websites use the rep system in this way? I think it’s weird how, recently, some users are more frequently pointing to rep as something valuable, or that file-sharing is a quid pro quo arrangement.
Like I said in this forum, the cancer is mostly a few select people, not the whole forum, although sure there’s a load of leechers, but those are mostly quiet, and there’s just a small group of them that are retarded.
2. Those two and the REP Step (or, previously, the Like Me) are used to address leecher culture—and let’s be honest here—85% of our fellow forum users are of the download and dash sort and that feeds into the sense of a lack of community.
What doesn’t tell you an anonymous person can ask you a link by PM and then report it?
2. Those two and the REP Step (or, previously, the Like Me) are used to address leecher culture—and let’s be honest here—85% of our fellow forum users are of the download and dash sort and that feeds into the sense of a lack of community.
I think it’s been established by now that the reason so many Mega links have been taken down is because of a bot; tangotreats made the observation that literally anything is being flagged for violating the copyright of the Universal Music Group (UMG) even if the content in question has no relation to them. So it’s not some hapless UMG employee doing this. Tangotreats thinks that the bot trolls a users threads from start to finish and reports any Mega links it finds in the first post. Immediate reporting wasn’t a problem until last week.
If we were to prune the Shrine of blatantly inactive users, we’d not only knock out that bot but also a lot of the leechers.
There’s this user here named samy1013 or something like that. He obviously knows little English and all of his thousands of posts are the same: "Thank you share!" Is that so hard for other leechers to do? That’s why I would have no sympathy for them were their accounts deleted.
Btw leechers are a part essentiel of the forum, without leechers why sharing ?
I rarely take part of GD because my English is not enough elaborate and second the mostly time there are always the same guys saying nothing important so annoying and useless.
Rest sharing section, there are interesting things but some retarded guys but the mostly guys are pretty cool.
Just to say film section is the best part of the forum but the worst place too, need moderator that’s all.
You have my respect, Mr~Gold.
There’s insufficient evidence for it. No general pattern.
While some users have shouted from the rooftops that "many" of their mega links have been reported, thus far there is no demonstrable proof to me that it has impacted anyone else beyond the high-profile few who have reported it, which, to me, can only identify it as deliberate and, yes, vindictive act.
And if you weren’t born yesterday you should already be well acquainted with any number of online personalities who’ll go to certifiable ends to to satisfy a grievance (or jollies).
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…leechers are a part essentiel of the forum, without leechers why sharing ?
Many torrent sites operate under a quid pro quo system. Leech and seed. Seed and leech. It’s the only way to keep torrents alive.
As far as Mega is concerned, one downloader or a thousand, it makes no difference, the lifetime of a mega link isn’t contingent upon how many times or how often it’s downloaded.
Personally I’d like to see both of them done away with. Reputation has been warped into a way for certain users to claim superiority over others (seriously!) and the PM-only threads exist only to distribute banned music material as well as prevent their Internet enemies from getting a link. In my eyes neither of them necessarily have any positive traits anymore.
IDGAF about the rep system. Never did, never will. Sure, the green thingies look nice above you avatar – but it means nothing to me. The "like" system I liked, but reps? Nah.
I have multiple reasons for making all my threads PM-only:
A.) Posting a public link is a fool’s errand. Especially nowadays posting an open MEGA link? Nope.
B.) I’m not going to just post the link for my hard work for anyone and everyone out there to grab.
C.) Having someone make a post in the thread keeps it alive and keeps it popular. I’ve said this before – do you know how many times I’ve missed out on something (for weeks) because it’s just an open link and people don’t post in it? When you post in a thread it stays at the top – and people see it. There’s logic to this.
Frankly, I don’t think it is a bot.
There’s insufficient evidence for it. No general pattern.
While some users have shouted from the rooftops that "many" of their mega links have been reported, thus far there is no demonstrable proof to me that it has impacted anyone else beyond the high-profile few who have reported it, which, to me, can only identify it as deliberate and, yes, vindictive act.
And if you weren’t born yesterday you should already be well acquainted with any number of online personalities who’ll go to certifiable ends to to satisfy a grievance.
My entire account is gone. Not just my uploads, I’ve been suspended for "copyright infringement". Film mixes, vinyls, OSTs, custom covers, scans, even photos I took on my on phone – apparently I infringed upon myself. Yesterday (or the day before) I said I was against nuking the film downloads section. But after logging in today and finding out I’m basically banned from MEGA, I have a feeling you may be right. Some cowardice asshole (sorry Skelly, speaking my fucking mind here) reported all my links and all – even things I am the rightful owner of. If I were to simply start using a different host, who’s to say the same asshole won’t just do it again? I have been working on something for the past few days and I was gonna share. Well, I regret tot say that’s no longer happening.
Long story short, maybe the film downloads section should be nuked. I don’t know, I’m just tired/agitated/angry/fed up. Maybe I’ll have a different view on a different day.
Oh For Fuck Sake No!!!! Now This Ass Is Ridding Us Of DAK Customs! Fuck This Bastard!
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Oh For Fuck Sake No!!!! Now This Ass Is Ridding Us Of DAK Customs! Fuck This Bastard!
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Honestly, I was doing it with you in mind. I thought "What would Gold do?" and how much you would’ve liked it….
WHAT!!!!????
<p>It is true that in this day and age, reputation is seen a a conflict of interest, and rather than other people looking up to you for having so much, they despise you for being better than them. Unfortunately, this is what it has come to. We can see it everywhere. No one can hold any higher standard of popularity than anyone else, because there is always someone who will come along to try and bring them down. There is also people who would seek to use their reputation points to promote their power over other users in the forum. Even if we as users have no real power, we do in fact have psychological power. The green bar that lights up the top of your avatar says you are intelligent and knowledgeable and popular, and a lot of people would be envious of you, and a lot of people would take your word over others simply because you appear to be, because of that reputation.
Axe all the download sections; move them into respective groups to hide their activity from plain sight to restore the original content of the Forum, discussion about Final Fantasy. Currently, groups do not contain HTML/BB Code formatting to the extant that the regular forum does. If this were to be enabled, we could easily move all of the download sections into groups. With their own administrators and moderators — whoever would be up to the task. Also implementing a way to hide a group’s board unless you are a part of said group would help to negate some of the copyright downfalls of openly posting links, I would find.
Implementing a function to subscribe to groups to receive notifications of threads posted based on set keywords would also be a plus!
I don’t want to remove the DL section; a lot of people are really great at sharing and amidst the chaos and calamity, there are people who are truly passionate about the subject. A firmer, rule-set forum would help this. Harassing others would simply give you a warning and a ban and each ban would increase exponentially; 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, and then permanently.
The simple fact is that the forum does not have rules set to govern behavior. Allowing anyone to say anything and get away with it (most of the time). Automatic policies should be put in place that will search the forum for keywords like album titles that will automatically delete banned labels like Varese..
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Dammit. This world is too cruel.
It’d be really hard and now impossible to restart this in a great form. There’s no people up to the task.. as much as we wish
Otherwise it’s just crazy to trust a cloud, the cloud is just to share, not to backup.
MEGA could close all my accounts, my stuffs are safe.
This time you hit right on target. I can sign this.
Some people claim that reputation system is problem No. 1 because should provide superiority over others members here. Hmmm. It’s not problem rep. system but how people see it.
Do any of you feel inferior in relation to this one? Who needs to prove superiority over this fool?
Perhaps only praying mantis!!!
You can nuke reps, or maybe entire download section but snowman is still snowman.
Funny thing, this snowman fool around with T-SHIRT ‘hey Jessie please ban this one or that one’
Anyway all you has my support in order to save download section.
If something still depends on us, I will support all no matter what you decide.
I Have All The Film Mixes You Made. And To Think Like The Disney Legacy…It’s Discontinued.
Sad Day. 🙁
It’d be really hard and now impossible to restart this in a great form. There’s no people up to the task.. as much as we wish
I can’t entirely disagree with this. I’d be all for it if somehow all the trolls and leechers would have no way of coming back. And I think it’d be good if you were only allowed membership if you put in what you took. Contribute.
I Am Still In Shock…. At What Could Have Been. 🙁
I Have All The Film Mixes You Made. And To Think Like The Disney Legacy…It’s Discontinued.
Sad Day. 🙁
It was nothing huge, just something I thought you’d appreciate. Don’t fret. And I did say TDK was my final film mix I was publicly posting. Only a few things would bring me out of retirement. But with this whole MEGA fiasco, I wouldn’t count on it…
But sadly, not everyone has stuff to share.
Bad behaviour(s) is/are reflective of a culture or cultures at large, and if there is no culture which actively dissuades bad behaviour(s) or passively disregards bad behaviour(s) any community or communities will eventually break down.
Civics 101.
And now we play the waiting game…
But sadly, not everyone has stuff to share.
So MAKE something, I don’t care. A custom cover. A suite. A compilation. Something. Buy an album on iTunes and share it. But a previously purchased album and post it if it hasn’t been posted before.
Because he got personal stuff deleted too, that had nothing to do with copyrighted music.
Personally I’d like to see both of them done away with. Reputation has been warped into a way for certain users to claim superiority over others (seriously!) and the PM-only threads exist only to distribute banned music material as well as prevent their Internet enemies from getting a link. In my eyes neither of them necessarily have any positive traits anymore.
The reputation system has somehow evolved into an object which members could use to their advantage and think they’re entitled to appear superior to and have some power over those with less reputation. Obviously, that’s a flawed thought process, because it should be common-knowledge that, in this forum, and in the real world, no one of us is better than the other. The general concept of reputation points is not bad at all, otherwise it’d had not been implemented, it’s just been exploited in an inappropriate manner by some certain users, and really, as you’ve recently said, Skelly, they’ve ruined it for everybody else.
I don’t think reputation holds much importance at all. The only reason I’d like to see that it remains is its aesthetic on our profiles.
The simple fact is that the forum does not have rules set to govern behavior. Allowing anyone to say anything and get away with it (most of the time). Automatic policies should be put in place that will search the forum for keywords like album titles that will automatically delete banned labels like Varese.
I completely agree.
Back when Sparktank was a mod I was very much against his iron fist because I thought we were totally able to handle ourselves, thank you very much. Now I wish there were someone like him running it now.
Apparently a mod has already been chosen. This is good.
Lorddsp’s signature talks about his own rules for sharing.
I just saw the other day that he demands a 100 posts. Or something.
There’s no reason to create a thread in the download section if it doesn’t meet the requirements.
It’s no excuse to gauge interests or waste of time.
When I uploaded isolated scores, it wasn’t for 100 people. It was because a couple, maybe a few, requested it.
What’s the point of a request section if there must be at least 100 people interested?
Where does it stop from there?
It’s a question of scale. The larger a group becomes, there eventually is a tipping point beyond which the ratio of assholes and well-meaning idiots cause damage to the point of disrupting the actions of the rest of the group.
One solution is to limit the size of the group. In the case of the Shrine, it’s too late to close that door and would result in extreme cliquism, as well as strangling any chance for maturity. (Groups need to mature like people.)
The other solution is rule with an iron fist. The best fan group I was ever part of was a very responsible dictatorship.
In fandom, of course, it runs into the same problem it has in politics, how do you know whether you will end up with a Good King or a Bad King? (Sorry, Sparktank, but you were a Bad King. But the premise was valid.)
But what is required is someone with the judgement, the experience, and the time to properly manage the entirety of the download section.
There would be blowback. Assholes aren’t known to take setbacks well. That’s part of what makes them assholes. there would be a lot of damage in revenge reporting, and collateral damage, and what not.
But eventually it would settle down. And if it didn’t, it means there shouldn’t be a download section anymore anyway.
P.s. I am neither applying for the job, nor know of who should have it.
In regards to reputation, it’s been the most useless thing to me and should perhaps be left to a thing of the past.
Why exactly do I think this?
Simple: User’s posts should speak for themselves!
Like, I’m always interested in what each person has to say! Even from the people I don’t like would have a good thing to say at various points. For all those that state "Oh, there’s that one guy that always spouts bullshit," I say "We could learn at least to not be like that man and perhaps think better of ourselves and the people we actually know and like." It’s a simple thing to do.
I say all this, as what I never really liked about the "rep" bar is: What is a bunch of green bars gonna tell me about your actual reputation? Sure, it tells me you’re very well known in the forums, but does that tell me if you’re an actually good or bad person? Being popular doesn’t tell me shit about who you’re actually about. The egotistical people who are constantly asking about wanting "rep" and thinking they’re better than everyone else tells me more than a simple bar.
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As to PM only threads: While I would’ve removed them a month ago, they’re our saving graces for sharing at the moment.
It’s much more simple really.
The MEGA take downs have obviously pretty much been the biggest problem we’ve been dealing with, and PMs for links was what everyone decided (unless you switch to another cloud provider, like I have). Nothing more than that.
The only real problem would be imposing restrictions. (Liking saying 100 posts are needed).
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If there’s anything you’d like to properly criticize about the statements I’ve made, feel free to do so. 🙂
About rep, it was fun and like an RPG at the beginning , but now I have enough for a entirely life so I don’t care anymore about rep and about thanks, I receive a thank for each request so it’s ok.
That I understood, don’t worry, still felt the need to point a few things out, since some won’t get it, took the chance thanks to a post. Personally, I would disable User Groups, we had users who used those to "openly" share banned material.
It’s not about the film mixes, he filed dispute because they deleted personal photographs and such he uploaded for safekeeping as well. He’s already mentioned this in his OP.
Personally, I would disable User Groups, we had users who used those to "openly" share banned material.
That is a Thing that is very much still happening, User Groups should be disabled, yes.
Outlaw Adfly and the like, if you want to monetize your Uploads (blech) use Uploaded.to or something.
Maybe a Rule for holding off sharing Stuff until it’s been out a Week or two ? (This goes for all Sections)
Be more Banhammer-happy, doesn’t have to be Policestate Levels, but to me it seems a bit lax…
I miss Zoran, and Sparky did mostly fine Imho, maybe third Time’s the Charm ?
EVERYONE but him!
Of course it’s a fucking Problem, The Group exists with the Sole Intent of getting Banned Stuff towards it’s Members.
Do you think Varese or FSM gives a Toodley Hoot how the People get the Links ?
No, they just see that sharing is being done, and the Shrine will suffer the Consequences.
I would rather have any other than Spark back as a mod, he was mentally unfit for the job, really. Took everything very personally. Hell, he fucking banned my account once out of hate. Abusing the mod’s powers and the forum’s leaking to do so..
EVERYONE but him!
How come Spark has done shit like this thousand of times and gets away with it, but Z/Momo fucks up once and suddenly everyone hates them and he deserves nothing? This forum’s seriously got some bad standards..
yep, there is a problem, too much publicity. even there isn’t threads related with banned material, there’s sharing of banned material,
Try once to forget your or my ego and answer me to this simple question.
I have admitt Your long-term idea of closing FILM DOWNLOAD section is legitimate and only your business BUT… Why are you using this unfortunate situation when we all have DMCA problems in order to achieve your goals? Tell me it’s Jessie your friend? If it is why don’t you try to understand his situation? Some psycho harass Jessie in private conversation and what you doing? You’re trying to take advantage of other people’s problems instead to offer your assistance and help to solve problems. You acting like vultures.
Imagine that you have in your section stupid-jerk like this one. You ask assistance from admin, he ban psycho, right?
So tell me your opinion after banning who would be subjected to ill-treatment, you like mod or Jessie again?
Do you think Varese or FSM gives a Toodley Hoot how the People get the Links ?
No, they just see that sharing is being done, and the Shrine will suffer the Consequences.
The aim of this group is to share more, and more it’s not album but friendship and to avoid fight by having only guys who like each other.
There are a lot of place to share what we want and we are all in touch with email so no reason to share unauthorized album in the group.
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yep, there is a problem, too much publicity. even there isn’t threads related with banned material, there’s sharing of banned material,
No, we share outside FF , you know FF is a good meeting place but not THE place because a place where you can’t share amazing stuffs like all the var???se catalog, FSM etc etc, could not be the main place, just a place to make contact and get some good stuff, but I can’t forget top labels just because of rules, I accept the rules and I do my business outside like the mostly people here.
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?discussionid=1109
You know full well that FSM is a BANNED label.
Until you guys can use them responsibly, user groups should be disabled. Would they even be missed?
ManRay, Skelly, what Shrine members communicate via private email accounts hosted outside this forum is none of your business and certainly outside the administrative jurisdiction of both you and this site’s owner.
So stick a sock in it.
Otherwise, what you’re essentially advocating is banning all speech on this site related to certain record labels.
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?discussionid=1109
You know full well that FSM is a BANNED label.
Until you guys can use them responsibly, user groups should be disabled. Would they even be missed?
Yes true, I disable this part.
The problem is solely with PM threads, and now user groups, that sneakily circumvent the ban on certain materials. If they want to arrange a way of communicating about banned materials, they should do it outside of the Shrine.
Good: "I just got the new Hellboy Deluxe, boy it sounds great!" *Posts iTunes screenshot*
Bad: "Hey guys can I have DL link for Hellboy plz! PM me"
Worse: "Hey guys here is a thread for Hellboy! Leave a comment here so that I can PM you this music!"
Years of this behavior shows that the majority can’t be trusted to follow the very simple rule of not openly sharing banned music.
ManRay, Skelly, what Shrine members communicate via private email accounts hosted outside this forum is none of your business and certainly outside the administrative jurisdiction of both you and this site’s owner.
So stick a sock in it.
No, gururu, you’re partially wrong. In case you haven’t noticed the link posted by TheSkeletonMan, they have created "discussions" on this community to promote whatever banned material they have, that can still translate into legal troubles for the Shrine.
EDIT:
Ninja’d. As for NumeroUno’s post, I seriously have troubles understanding most of what you wrote. I’ll try to answer bits of it:
– I’m not taking advantage of anything, ultimately, the decision about Film / TV’s fate lies in an administrator’s "hands", which I’m not, nor will ever be. I’m merely talking about possible outcomes.
– I consider myself a friend of Jessie, but I don’t meddle with his personal life, just as he doesn’t meddle with mine; we only "know" each other through the Web. Aside from silently wishing that the sad individual harassing him and his girlfriend gets what’s coming to him, I can’t do much.
The labels have no claim over the discussion of content banned on this site. So long as Shrine server(s) are not used to relay said banned content they can make no legal claim to copyright infraction.
ManRay, Skelly, what Shrine members communicate via private email accounts hosted outside this forum is none of your business and certainly outside the administrative jurisdiction of both you and this site’s owner.
So stick a sock in it.
Otherwise, what you’re essentially advocating is banning all speech on this site related to certain record labels.
I agree ^^ what we share outside FF is not the problem of FF and if we want share as hell all stuffs of the world, we do that but outside of course.
Labels can’t stop all the blog sharing stuff and hidden site in the net.
And I don’t know why we can’t share varese here and we can share as hell all disney, lll int and practically all other labels.
But we can talk about all lablels we want even if I don’t share these labels.
The labels have no claim over the the discussion of content banned on this site. So long as Shrine server(s) are not used to relay said banned content they can make no legal claim to copyright infraction.
That’s entirely right, gururu.
You know the "Airwolf Themes" guy? He aggressively fought against his music being posted here, but I remember he made it clear that discussion and criticism of it was encouraged.
I’m not against people talking about Airwolf or Varese or whatever. Just don’t share a link.
The problem is solely with PM threads, and now user groups, that sneakily circumvent the ban on certain materials. If they want to arrange a way of communicating about banned materials, they should do it outside of the Shrine.
Good: "I just got the new Hellboy Deluxe, boy it sounds great!" *Posts iTunes screenshot*
Bad: "Hey guys can I have DL link for Hellboy plz! PM me"
Worse: "Hey guys here is a thread for Hellboy! Leave a comment here so that I can PM you this music!"
Years of this behavior shows that the majority can’t be trusted to follow the very simple rule of not openly sharing banned music.
Oh you didn’t get your copy, I m so sorry lol
Also no, I have offer this album to a lot of site outside FF but not here and only by email.
Because the administration of this website was very reasonably asked by each company/person in question not to do so.
I Would Miss My OUAT Group…. We Talk There To Save Cluttering Threads…
But we can talk about all lablels we want even if I don’t share these labels.
VS contacted the Staff and demanded that its releases, as well as music which that label owns the copyright of, do not get shared around here. Disney, Intrada, etcetera have yet to show up.
Understand: Varese asked – no, DEMANDED – that their music not be posted here.
Disney hasn’t done that (yet!)
It has nothing to do with which company is "superior" to another.
http://forums.ffshrine.org/group.php?discussionid=1109
You know full well that FSM is a BANNED label.
Until you guys can use them responsibly, user groups should be disabled. Would they even be missed?
1) lordssp is a psychotic liar. Since he does not have a lot of his stuff, together with invitation for his group, some guys get the same link ‘Hellboy- Varese’ trough PM here (me too) I guess like his gift, his joker-card to convince people to join group. Since i’m not interested to supply group like this I refused invitation.
2) Skelly was right. This is not first time that he advertise folder with banned stuff trough group. There was discussion ‘My Varese Collection’ and folder full of my & keving uploads from other forums. I had conversation with this snowman.
I told him:
‘it’s no chance that you offer my varese rips if I’m already prevented to post this on shrine.
I don’t give a shit what you share trough e-mail but please remove mentioned discussion or take risks of closing group”
He sent me a few messages where he raved some shit how he has an impact on Jessie and he will ask MY BAN (still looking for it LOL) but at the end he remove folder.
3) All current problems are mainly incurred from funny fight called ‘WHO WILL BUN WHO’ between lordssp Vs powaigatsi. Imagine this 2 psychos who think they have some power looking for targets here. Fucking snowman’s. Only Jessey knows what shit suffers from both of them. I don’t see any difference between them specially after i saw that 2-3 guys in lordssp group make plains to take-down links from other members.
Maybe private groups is nice idea (i had one which grew into a blog) but only If member respect the rules.
So you should put a sock into it too. Make that two.
The New MOD Seems To Be Working Out Nicely.
So you should put a sock into it too. Make that two.
Maybe i’ve been lost for a bit in translation but i have no clue what have ‘proprietary claim’
with sharing banned labels trough PM in mentioned group? Find me the relation, please.
I’m breaking my own rules here but that insult is so hilarious it’s sig-worthy.
The New MOD Seems To Be Working Out Nicely.
That’s because there’s nothing to talk or give fuss about music currently, I believe.
Meanwhile, while it is true that under current Shrine policy that relaying links to certain infringed copyrighted material is verboten, like any policy, dictate or law addressing the transmission of information, it can only ever be enforced by invasive 24/7 monitoring.
For example:
1. all pms would have to be pre-reviewed by mods before send (obviously the crudest and most time consuming).
2. disabling the ability to send pms containing html.
3. incorporating software to filter communication containing certain key words.
…but clearly just disabling the private messaging system altogether would be the simpler solution.
What are you going on about? You keep saying I’m a crusader against free speech, but I don’t care what people do over PM. All I care about are threads that are made for the express purpose of sending banned materials VIA private messaging.
i think groups should be disabled.
They’re too easy to go unmonitored.
Mods are human. Let’s make their jobs easier and eliminate the shadows these vile members can hide in.
Do not fret yet. It’s just talk. There’s been talk about deleting reps and it hasn’t been deleted. Nothing’s confirmed. This is, again just talk.
Unwarranted overkill.
Private groups in themselves are not in contravention of Shrine policy, only the relaying of direct links to infringed material, whether on the open board or via PM.
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What are you going on about? You keep saying I’m a crusader against free speech, but I don’t care what people do over PM. All I care about are threads that are made for the express purpose of sending banned materials VIA private messaging.
What are you going on about, Skelly? I didn’t cite you or anyone in that post.
I assumed you were addressing me in follow-up to post 52 (Thread 211128). My mistake.
So began a dirty game Supreme-Man, if I ‘swallow’ an apostrophe you put me on sig LOL
What about your rules? Which are?
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I Will Miss My OUAT Group. 🙁
You will never come back in that sure, you left twice for ridiculous reasons there will be not a third chance that sure :-/.
Nothing to do with my rep…. the group upsets people, i do not want all the negative.
Nothing to do with my rep…. the group upsets people, i do not want all the negative.
I understand but you should don’t care about 2 or 3 peoples but as I told you it’s ok no problem, it’s just a group 😉
Members can’t share their links with each other through PM, remember. 😉
NumeroZero is banned from many sites, so just ignore him he is finished everywhere, just a small pussy who needs to change his nickname but Z still Z , the name change, the style stays.
@STAFF
Leave this patient to me, please!!!
I’ll be happy to deal with this idiot.
This Being G/D as was before. Needs Reviving…..
Leave this patient to me, please!!!
I’ll be happy to deal with this idiot.
Me , idiot? you have Zero credibility, no one care about you, you take the same way as poposqui >>> the door
You are my funny toy, I really like you 🙂
This Being G/D as was before. Needs Reviving…..
General Discussion’s vibe and energy is defined by us as a whole. When we change, it changes, and we change every day. It’s entirely up to us whether it’s a positive environment or not.
Not saying it couldn’t use a little spicing up, but that’s entirely up to us. I like to see threads such as Skelly’s "Jack of all trades".
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/51/47/ce/5147cefed31c3da812e713bb8af1e875.gif
Not saying it couldn’t use a little spicing up, but that’s entirely up to us. I like to see threads such as Skelly’s "Jack of all trades".
I Guess.
You are my funny toy, I really like you 🙂
Discussion over for me, I stop here
Discussion over for me, I stop here
Discussion over for me, I stop here
Discussion over for me, I stop here
Discussion over for me, I stop here
Liar!
I’ve set it up so that if you send an email to the specified email I’ve created for the task, with a specific string in the subject line, it will automatically reply with a dl link for whatever that string is associated with. Not only does this mean I never have to spend time sending links to 300 people again, but it also means that it’s done outside of the Shrine and can be (somewhat) safer.. maybe?
Not you, sorry, i didn’t mean for it to be under your Post.
I’d never anger the Dark One. 😉
This is Shrine… at least it ran for a few posts.
Sorry.
Not your fault. The attention whore couldn’t resist.
I’d never anger the Dark One. 😉
I Should Think So.
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This is Shrine… at least it ran for a few posts.
Not your fault. The attention whore couldn’t resist.
:erm: whore?
A representive who from the labels can still create an account here and get the links just to DMCA them or take it to the Shrine staff.
You can do anything with a script.
Just as you set it up automatically, it won’t take much effort for them to do the same.
Even with minimal human interaction.
Your automated process is just as easily counteracted with another process.
But since the only way to acquire the links is starting at Shrine, it’s still at fault.
Direct Download Forums like Shrine and tehparadox don’t host files.
But they offer ways to acquire links to acquire pirated content.
Just because you’re doing an email system, away from Shrine, doesn’t mean you’re going to be safe from distributing Vares Sarabande and other banned content.
If anything, you’re gonig to give the other members another idea to cheat the system to distribute VS and then childishly say they’re not posting on the boards nor in PM’s.
But the fact remains: Thanks to information that can be found with a free account, you can still acquire pirated content.
You can do anything with a script.
Just as you set it up automatically, it won’t take much effort for them to do the same.
Even with minimal human interaction.
Your automated process is just as easily counteracted with another process.
But since the only way to acquire the links is starting at Shrine, it’s still at fault.
Direct Download Forums like Shrine and tehparadox don’t host files.
But they offer ways to acquire links to acquire pirated content.
Just because you’re doing an email system, away from Shrine, doesn’t mean you’re going to be safe from distributing Vares Sarabande and other banned content.
If anything, you’re gonig to give the other members another idea to cheat the system to distribute VS and then childishly say they’re not posting on the boards nor in PM’s.
But the fact remains: Thanks to information that can be found with a free account, you can still acquire pirated content.
O guess one further way would be to host the email and string information and another separate site so that only registered users would be able to click the link and view the information, maybe hidden behind a password.. idk.. There’s a lot of ways to cover it up, and equally as many ways to tear it down… 😛
As the private forum was on lease from the main domain.
either way, you’re still providing information to pirate content.
Doesn’t matter how you hide and smile about it like a fucking child.
Your devotion to hide everything sounds like you’re trying to sneak in releases from Varese Sarabande.
People who smile the most have a lot to hide.
In most cases, here in Shrine, they’re trafficking contranbd labels through PM’s and gloating subtlely about it on the forum.
People have too much freedom and take too many liberties on Shrine for their own good.
Come off it, Spark. You know you can’t drag someone into court based on a preposterous accusation of guilt by association.
And until you have proof of any wrongdoing you’re just trafficking in rumour and innuendo.
Agreed.
All I could think of while reading that was "so this is the next stage in VS-sharing evolution".
I believe the immediate MEGA-takedown crisis is over anyway.
As the private forum was on lease from the main domain.
either way, you’re still providing information to pirate content.
Doesn’t matter how you hide and smile about it like a fucking child.
Your devotion to hide everything sounds like you’re trying to sneak in releases from Varese Sarabande.
People who smile the most have a lot to hide.
In most cases, here in Shrine, they’re trafficking contranbd labels through PM’s and gloating subtlely about it on the forum.
People have too much freedom and take too many liberties on Shrine for their own good.
We are all vilains pirates!
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The Pirate Bay and other sites don’t actually host files on their server.
Just like Direct Download Link forums.
It’s easier to nab torrenters because of poor settings in the torrent client.
Traffic is easier to capture and determine IP addresses.
Using an email, they’d have to track the original IP of where the email was created.
So, for sake of using an email, even if fake or no data, it’d be best to do it with an email company that protects against privacy concerns and use a VPN or paid-proxy service.
Gmail isn’t likely to protect privacy if a subpoena involved.
All they have to do is show the email that was sent auotmatically and google will hand everything over.
To add: anyone who has been following the file sharing issue for more than a decade will know that there was once a time
when file sharing operated and existed in a legal grey zone, before Jack Valenti and all his corporate friends with deep, deep pockets brought down the wrath of Capitalism on various government entities, particularly Sweden vs The Pirate Bay, to redefine the definition of infringement as not only possessing the contested materials but broadcasting knowledge of said materials, i.e listing torrent files. Essentially criminalizing free speech.
Just the dumb fuck posting on Shrine their emails to obtain illegal content.
At no point did I say Shrine will get penalized for it.
Just the dumb fucks.
Which there are a lot of here.
There’s no shortage of that.
That’s for sure.
If there’s anything we can be sure of, anything at all, it’s that.
So Momo. You’re friends can’t defend you know.
when file sharing operated and existed in a legal grey zone, before Jack Valenti and all his corporate friends with deep, deep pockets brought down the wrath of Capitalism on various government entities, particularly Sweden vs The Pirate Bay, to redefine the definition of infringement as not only possessing the contested materials but broadcasting knowledge of said materials, i.e listing torrent files. Essentially criminalizing free speech.
It wasn’t a strike against free speech, it was an attempt to cease the operations of a website deliberately enabling Internet piracy.
Saying "go to Pirate Bay to get Kanye for free" is different from knowingly hosting a torrent file with the latest Kanye album.
Doesn’t matter if you’re not the one downloading/uploading the music, per se. You’re providing the means and expect users to take advantage of them.
Don’t fucking care. Still doing it.
And, so? If it is a problem it’s their’s not yours. Why make hay of it?
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It wasn’t a strike against free speech, it was an attempt to cease the operations of a website deliberately enabling Internet piracy.
Saying "go to Pirate Bay to get Kanye for free" is different from knowingly hosting a torrent file with the latest Kanye album.
Doesn’t matter if you’re not the one downloading/uploading the music, per se. You’re providing the means and expect users to take advantage of them.
I knew someone would play the "enabling" card. "Enabling". As in enabling the distribution of information. Because hosting a torrent file which points to data and hosting the actual data are two very different things as well you should know.
What’s it it to you that I make hay?
Someone bragged as they usually do and they were wrong.
So so suck your toe because I told so you.
There’s a difference between The Pirate Bay and MEGA.
I can buy the idea that Kim Dotcom (allegedly) created MEGA for the express purpose of sharing non-illegal things. Like family videos and photos and whatever. Kind of like Google Drive.
But I can’t buy the idea that the Pirate Bay guys didn’t have movie-sharing in mind when they started up the site. As if Grandma was going to use a peer-to-peer service to get pictures of her grandbabies.
At any rate, I’m really just waiting to say I told you so.
I only need wait now.
I can buy the idea that Kim Dotcom (allegedly) created MEGA for the express purpose of sharing non-illegal things. Like family videos and photos and whatever. Kind of like Google Drive.
But I can’t buy the idea that the Pirate Bay guys didn’t have movie-sharing in mind when they started up the site. As if Grandma was going to use a peer-to-peer service to get pictures of her grandbabies.
Are gun shop owner liable for selling a firearm to a licensed owner who then goes on to murder someone with that gun? Of course not.
Just because the Pirate Bay broadcasted information does not make them responsible for how that information is used. Of course, what really got Valenti’s and the media conglomerates goat was that The Pirate Bay was ad supported and they were profiting from that information regardless of whether others downloaded any content or not.
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At any rate, I’m really just waiting to say I told you so.
Well, whatever gets you through the day, Grandpa Spark.
Agreed, wholly (I was going to make that comparison myself but was afraid of the potential can of worms it would open!). But say that the gun owner is encouraging you to use his weapon in cold blood – then the shop is in big trouble. That sort of behavior creates a clear and present danger.
I don’t know their history but I am heavily inclined to believe that the founders of the Pirate Bay intended for their service to be used to distribute copyrighted materials.
I can’t wait for it to happen when you’re on "break" again.
Why hello Mr Frequently Banned!
CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION
Man, I regret using that word now.
Now it’ll be used like "trigger" and will be used by presumptuous asswipes to justify some of their ridiculous behaviors.
"Don’t talk about that Trump guy! It enables me to become triggered!"
What a world, what a world…. :laugh:
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CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION
Yep, guilty without a shadow of doubt and all that. And I agree with you to a point. But that doesn’t mean I can’t on my own think that O.J. killed those people.
CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION
That doesn’t justify things going wrong.
Emails are traceable than getting a whole forum snatched and processed by dozens of agents looking for connections.
One stack of paper is easier than a messy room. :smrt:
He’s high profile! And now he’s outside Shrine jurisdiction. That justifies probable cause for intent to traffic.
With or without profit.
It was just once really. Twice counting the fluke.
At least it’s less frequent than your homophobic breakdowns, that’s for sure.
O_O
Oh no.
This thread is going too far off the rails.
S-serious discussion only guys!
Stay on topic! Stay on topic before it’s too late!
Almost there??? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAFM3P1Mt10)
Darth Vader is played by Spark. 😉
Oh no.
This thread is going too far off the rails.
S-serious discussion only guys!
Stay on topic! Stay on topic before it’s too late!
No worries. I have no real malice towards the man, especially considering he actually taught me a few things about technology.
Again, everyone is useful in some form.
Darth Vader is played by Spark. 😉
Pull up! Pull up! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7ArwF79tdE&t=12s)
Impressive. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvUL28Skt6E)
Emails are traceable than getting a whole forum snatched and processed by dozens of agents looking for connections.
One stack of paper is easier than a messy room. :smrt:
He’s high profile! And now he’s outside Shrine jurisdiction. That justifies probable cause for intent to traffic.
With or without profit.
That "probable cause" still has to have supporting proofs convincing to a presiding judge, at least one not already bought off by the DMCA syndicate.
I call dibs on Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
People who smile the most have a lot to hide.
Pardon me, but FUCK Varese SaraBLAND! I remember when they were nobody wanting to have the stuff, and honestly, they still are a nobody to me.
LLL, Intrada, and other places still blow them out of the water. I’m tired of the fucking overhype of VS.
I’ll take my complete collection of [bootlegs, mind you] of Soundtrack Library, Concorde, EuroCDs, and [non-boot] Super Tracks titles any day over VS.
Venereal Sarabande!
LLL, Intrada, and other places still blow them out of the water. I’m tired of the fucking overhype of VS.
I’ll take my complete collection of [bootlegs, mind you] of Soundtrack Library, Concorde, EuroCDs, and [non-boot] Super Tracks titles any day over VS.
Venereal Sarabande!
Yeah, I don’t think this belongs here.
Besides, Varese will be loved regardless of any criticism. You’d be told to get out.
Is there a bootleg of Robocop 3 that sounds better the DE? Yeah, I don’t think so.
Good, good, we’ll send you to argue the Matter with Varese’s Lawyers when the Shrine is suspended,
when was it you said you took your Bar Exam ?
I just came up with a way to automate link sharing so I don’t have to send one manually to each and every user, so I can still post and share threads here and instead of users asking for PMs like I used to do, they’ll just get an automated response if they choose to. Less work for me. More sharing. That is all I intended. I AM LAZY OKAY?
I just came up with a way to automate link sharing so I don’t have to send one manually to each and every user, so I can still post and share threads here and instead of users asking for PMs like I used to do, they’ll just get an automated response if they choose to. Less work for me. More sharing. That is all I intended. I AM LAZY OKAY?
It’s amazing how people can straight up miss the point and go extreme with it to prove their random point they’ve been waiting forever to state at the right moment.
I think it’s a damn good method that I’d like to set up, but I don’t know how to with my email.
Are you gonna do it with the rest? (Also, PW is busted on the HTTYD 2 thread).
Personally, I like Zara’s script idea!
No, he just took it way too far.
I just came up with a way to automate link sharing so I don’t have to send one manually to each and every user, so I can still post and share threads here and instead of users asking for PMs like I used to do, they’ll just get an automated response if they choose to. Less work for me. More sharing. That is all I intended. I AM LAZY OKAY?
Momo you’ll have to deal with the fact that people here are assholes, so no matter what you do, even if it’s good for the forum you’ll still get put down, so my advice (which I’m sure you already know yourself) is to not give a flying fuck of what they say and keep doing your own thing.
As in life.
just an email automatic response, the problem is if you have several links you have to create several emails for each link, or have time sharing, or give all the links in the automatic response
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1) . I don’t see any difference between them specially after i saw that 2-3 guys in lordssp group make plains to take-down links from other members.
speak, write, who are they??,, and then you can go on witness protection program, with a new identity.
just an email automatic response, the problem is if you have several links you have to create several emails for each link, or have time sharing, or give all the links in the automatic response
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speak, write, who are they??,, and then you can go on witness protection program, with a new identity.
… and a doctor to cure his heavy case of paranoia! Besides, he switched his name already on this forum a few days ago from Zvonko[something] to NumeroUno, so the identity switching has already begun.
If you ever come into situation to change something in your sad life, be convinced that in your case will not help nothing without serious brain surgery. Do not let this fact discourage you. Even if during transplantation you get bat brain you’ll be again in win-win situation.
Tried to look if this email is real? Use an email like from 10 minute mail, send mail to [email protected] and look what happens….
…. I can belive, that this ia a fake one that someone use to compromise this section of the shrine.
Lol, if I get bat brain, I’ll switch my name to Batman! A win-win scenario for me, indeed! But seriously, I could replace body parts of mine however I wanted, that wouldn’t change the fact that you are still paranoid. Start relaxing for a change, and enjoy life. It’s too short for this kind of continuous battle with all your enemies (real and imagined). Life isn’t just black and white, we all have our little quirks and idiosyncrazies, but no reason to make this place a battleground of attacks and insults all the time. I still have hopes for you and believe you’re better than that!
Thanks for the heads-up Stevie. At this point I think we all know who may be behind these mass takedowns.
And I wish you good luck on your health.
I’m glad you appreciate a good insult, where is my deserved rep?
I don’t appreciate it (an insult is by definition an expression of bad manners), but neither does it hurt me, I just politely ignore it. And nobody "deserves" an insult, not even you, my friend! But maybe that’s just me. I still enjoy talking with you, with or without insults! So I’m afraid to say, no insult today, sorry! 😉
Yeah I fixed it. I put the filename as the password originally :laugh:
Personally, I like Zara’s script idea!
Thanks!
Momo you’ll have to deal with the fact that people here are assholes, so no matter what you do, even if it’s good for the forum you’ll still get put down, so my advice (which I’m sure you already know yourself) is to not give a flying fuck of what they say and keep doing your own thing.
Ponyo, you always say this. I don’t think you realise the kind of person that am. My skin is as thick as a dragon’s scales. Nothing anyone can say or do can hurt me. If people don’t like what I do, oh well. I mean, it’s not like I am doing anything harmful anymore, like posting sessions. In fact I am trying to make innovations! So there really is no reason anyone should have a beef anymore (but I understand if some people hold onto things from the past, I do too).
Momo idea’s is easy to do.
just an email automatic response, the problem is if you have several links you have to create several emails for each link, or have time sharing, or give all the links in the automatic response
Not true!
With gmail, you can set up a feature called "canned response". Wherein you can create multiple "draft" emails with anything content you want in them, and name them and add them to the directory of canned reaponses. Then, in the email filters, set it up to that "if x is present anywhere in an email, send y" where x is a string (I use 10 character strings, mixed of numbers and upper case letters) and y is the name of the canned reaponse.
Since you can make as many canned reaponses as you want, you can have as many filters for automatic replies as you want, all from the same email 🙂 I could’ve probably accomplished the same thing with a little bit of python and a web server (idea!) buuuuuut that’s a project for another day.
"I need my link quick or not at all."
My point is that it encourages more problems. tapoktro has never been a popular member of the site and more than once he’s been the center of controversy.
Bart Oss has even used those money-making link shorteners for music content that was free in the first place!
It encourages shitposting in a sense: using garbage services sole purpose of making money, not to share music and let others enjoy it.
But maybe this discussion is beating a dead horse.
Now To Attend to The Beaten Horse, Poor Little Bugger.
On that subject, huh? I think each of us should mind his/her own business (you don’t want others sticking their noses in the way you do things, right [?]); there’s no manual-for-dummies about how to be a good sharer, besides, even a few staffers used ad.fly in the past, going to chew their asses for it? Those fearing viruses should either:
– Protect their PC better, in this day and age there are different add-ons/etcetera which prevent crappy ads from loading;
– Pick carefully what they click on.
and on another forum…even without the ads…
Are you a bot?
Lost a lot of Respect for you when you sucked up to him to get on his good Side again.
it’s coming very quickly…admin/moderators must be sick of seeing this.
Lost a lot of Respect for you when you sucked up to him to get on his good Side again.
Only did so to get stuff from him, and I actually have never got anything from him. :laugh:
And I’m still getting the blame. Anyone who has a brain in their head can see who is right this time.
And I’m still getting the blame. Anyone who has a brain in their head can see who is right this time.
Of course. One shouldn’t waste his Time with this tantrumy Manchild on a Power Trip.
Meh, in the Eye of the People that only care about his Stuff he’ll always be right.
"Don’t upset him or he won’t share anymore", it’s pathetic and laughable.
Luckily i don’t want a single Thing from him, he on the other Hand hasn’t stopped pestering
me since i showed him the Index of my lossless Folder… :laugh:
At least you’ve gained back the respect for me now! That’s a good thing! :laugh:
"The Power!
The Universe Is Mine to Command! To Control!"
You’re a genie now.
Have a nice stay in the lamp, mister!
The Day that happens you better believe i’ll be there
with a big Bowl of Popcorn. :laugh:
Nah, i worded that a bit harshly, it just hurt me
to see you degrade yourself that way, he doesn’t deserve it.
I bet he got off on it…
:laugh: I don’t even want him to give me anything. I simply pointed out how he’s acting like now everyone who dares to say something against him will get banned. He acts like he’s the owner of the Shrine.. and he doesn’t get any imput, the mods will do as they please, not what the thinks. Constantly saying Z will be banned and he hasn’t!
Kids, please leave that stupid-fuck to me and don’t worry nothing. You want to see something funny please read this (Thread 211211)
‘MY MEGA BURNING!!!’
What an plunker!!!
You’re a genie now.
Have a nice stay in the lamp, mister!
https://media.tenor.co/images/1aad9e4f85851e5fe068ff927f308e09/raw
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnzhkiMnAf1qmqqpto1_500.gif
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clowns are now dangerous, please stay at home and leave the shrine for a while
What an plunker!!!
:laugh:
yes, you’re becoming paranoid, leave the shrine for a while
Leecher who just decided to speak out?
yes,, and i am not the only leecher, eveyone here its a godamn leecher also 😀
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clowns are now dangerous, please stay at home and leave the shrine for a while
Funny thing : in France, there were some deadly clowns who were scaring guys at something around 3:00AM on purpose for Halloween
So yes, we can say clowns are dangerous
So yes, we can say clowns are dangerous
Yeah, we’ve got that shit going on over here in the USA too.
I hope someone takes a baseball bat to these clowns and wipes them out.
IKR!?
Lol MrG
😉
Yeah, we’ve got that shit going on over here in the USA too.
I hope someone takes a baseball bat to these clowns and wipes them out.
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we have some clowns’ news in Brazil too
😉
My sister in law in UK told me than this year I can’t wear my Pennywise costume for Halloween :-/
So yes, we can say clowns are dangerous
Over here, people have been dressing up as clowns and terrorizing children near schools saying things like they’ll blow up the school.
I really don’t get why clowns are the trend now.
There has to be something going on either at youtube or 4chan to provoke soft minds to do these stunts.
I don’t think the clowns here were intended for halloween.
It seemed more like a dare amongst a society.
Let’s just imagine these are clowns, but I really think we need Charles Bronson ridding the streets of all clowns.
Xander is giong to hasve a heart attack.
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People are probably using this honestly.
The operative word (and phrase) being "popular" and "high traffic". Soundtracks need not apply.
****
Secondary copyright liability and KICKASS Torrents defense (https://torrentfreak.com/kickasstorrents-defense-torrents-are-not-copyrighted-content-us-has-no-case-161018/).
My MEGA upload links posted on the shrine are being deactivated ("Claim of Alleged Infringement / Takedown") as I type this. Why or how would a "bot" from Universal be doing this? Obviously not everything I’ve shared is "owned" by them.
I’ll have to supply the links manually to whoever might request them, but that’s not going to be a problem, luckily, my threads aren’t active.
If it were possible to organize a coordinated defence posture around here, the culprit could be identified. I only have my own observations of mass link requests in short periods of time, particularly this past Saturday (in the wee hours here in NA) for Zimmer content, including my own (which I denied).
How does that work, in case I ever upload something again?
nCrypt.in (http://ncrypt.in/)
Just to be clear, though, there was nothing being done on my end, besides encrypting links; that website suddenly stopped redirecting to mega.nz, it might start to work again.
Temporary overload, click me for a most recent screencap. (
)Just to be clear, though, there was nothing being done on my end, besides encrypting links; that website suddenly stopped redirecting to mega.nz, it might start to work again.
Okay, so would making people request links be better? Even if that bot somehow mimiced members by making requests, they could only remove one link at a time, right? Unless MEGA provides your account to the bot…
Speaking of cooperative corps, I just switched ISP from Verizon to Comcast (which owns NBC/Universal and the bot) – would they have somehow played a role in this?
let’s see where this takes to, even posting in here 😀
Comcast has been known to do operate illegally to take down pirates that use torrent protocol.
I wouldn’t put it past them to do even more unscrupulous things if they can get away with it for as long as they can.
To prove a point, I used ncrypt for my second upload. It still got taken down. Since a bot doesn’t know how to solve Captcha I very much suspect a person behind this. A person with a grudge or something else. Whatever it is, it is childish.
God damn. I was certain no one would be that much of a loser to actually be taking these links down manually, but holy moly this is taking madness to a whole new level.
You stole Sparky’s line!
Granted, a feeling isn’t proof. It also could be my paranoia speaking… ah, I don’t know.
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You stole Sparky’s line!
The Dude knows of what he speaks (at least most of the time…ok…just some of the time).
If so, it would be ridiculous. I mean why would someone go through this kind of trouble? How old are they? 10? This is beyond my comprehension.
I’m pretty certain he wants a real answer like the rest of us. It is a serious discussion, after all.
Come on!
This thread (and others) is no more than a source of amusement for our gremlin infestation.
Apparently I am. But Hunter is right, I really don’t get it. To pull something like this off requires energy and time. After the first attempts I myself would realize the futility of my acts. So in addition to time and effort I would also need a healthy dose of ignorance.
And I don’t worry about gremlins. In the end they will all roast in a swimming pool.
A lot of time, yes. If it is an actual person, they are a low-life, no-good scumbag with nothing better to do with their time. I’d love to have a one-on-one conversation with this asshole and tell him/her off. I also hope they see this post 🙂
But I would so love to believe that it’s not an actual person/persons doing this 🙁
Unless he and his cohort are that socially maladjusted they’ll eventually tire and grow bored of the routine and, if never found out, perhaps just show up every blue moon to stir shit up again.
Still…
They’re here amongst us. They could be sitting right next to you. And you would never know.
WWIII is coming….
You’ve said that many, many times.
You stole Sparky’s line!
That’ll be two dollars.
Sometimes I can’t shake the feeling that there’s some financial interest behind it. Perhaps some competing site? Because this looks a lot like a coordinated attempt to hurt attractiveness of this forum.
That is giving way too much credit.
Hacking the site would be easier. Like the old days when this place would get hacked.
DDoS attacks.
If you want to think of an active human treating it like coal mining for the links, might as well think of a team.
It takes a village to burn a baby.
Or something like that.
Public domain, baby. Public domain. :169:
😯
[cough cough]Dear, Mr. Sadsack, could you please provide us with URL of the site you uploaded the files?[/cough cough]
Why would you want to do this? You don’t own the copyright to any of the film music you’re posting, do you? You have no ground to stand on.
I was posting info for anyone interested, but as for myself, some uploads were personal material, some film titles have composer permission, some titles are public domain, and others are not owned by NBC Universal so I doubt they would prosecute me on other copyright owners behalf. They probably dont even know what they own themselves. And as I said, they removed everything (not just film scores, and most of those were unreleased music, not retail). They couldnt have downloaded and examined every file given the speed of the blanket removal of all uploads. It was pure revenge against uploaders.
I posted links with the decryption key from Mega. I’m wondering if they would have still been removed if I hadnt included that in the links? I suppose so, although then the attacker could definitely not prove copyright violation since they didnt have the key.
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At this point anyone still broadcasting open links is just asking for it.
If it were possible to organize a coordinated defence posture around here, the culprit could be identified. I only have my own observations of mass link requests in short periods of time, particularly this past Saturday (in the wee hours here in NA) for Zimmer content, including my own (which I denied).
Did you figure out if a bot made the requests?
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