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Oh Obama, sometimes your funny man trickster games makes me forget about you caving into the tea bagger's demands. Sometimes.

This has a Junji Ito flavor to it.
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Welcome back, riotmedic.

Saw this and it put a smile on my face.
http://www.tarncourt.co.uk/sillies/gifs/monkey-laugh.gif

I fuckin' lol'd.

there is a nice little thing that made me smile on anonnews. In the article in which they declare war on facebook...



Notice the "like" on FB button ? :p

http://ngiley.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/best-animated-gif-ever-2.gif

Since you spoilerized this, is it SFW? ;)

Since you spoilerized this, is it SFW? ;)

Oops.


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are you shrinin at work ari?

also no
not work safe by a long shot
well most places anyway

:rofldata: This kills!

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"Unintentional Voltorb Cosplay"

That looks more like Ironhide to me...

That looks more like Ironhide to me...

It is Ironhide. That's why I lol'd.

JonC

(Yes, I'm cross posting to the cute thread. But it sure made me laugh...)

That's more cute than funny.
Saved, lol.

That's more cute than funny.

I am not making this up.
This is an official Japanese government manga advising businessmen what they need to do to avoid being prosecuted under the new laws preventing collaboration with the Yazuka.

JonC

That looks more like Ironhide to me...


It is Ironhide. That's why I lol'd.

I think the deal is that the name is BELOW the character and Sides Wipe is above Ironhide.

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(http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/9414542-original.html)

(http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/9414539-original.html)

I think the deal is that the name is BELOW the character and Sides Wipe is above Ironhide.

Nope. On that display the character's name is above them, not below. So Ironhide was indeed incorrectly labelled as Sideswipe. :)

(http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/9414709-original.html)

(http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/9455685-original.html)

Pedo Bear is going to fuck you up.


JonC

Hmph... Pedobear 2.0

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hey, it's the green, alien chick from the Star Trek movie.

...wait, what's so funny about it?

(http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/9632047-original.html)

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hey, it's the green, alien chick from the Star Trek movie.

...wait, what's so funny about it?

I think it's cuz she played Scarlet in G.I. Joe.

(http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/14569774-original.html)

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Also...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/baileybuddy420/GIFS/bfc97f67116302fb0ad513c.gif

:tyson:

It seems that this thread has been lacking, since the last time I visited this forums. Let's do this.







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Nailed it.

http://cheezpictureisunrelated.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/wtf-photos-videos-mr-super-jones.gif

:rofldata::rofldata:

(http://www.pimpandhost.com/image/14979336-original.html)

http://cheezpictureisunrelated.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/wtf-photos-videos-mr-super-jones.gif


I just watched them all. There's almost 40 of them. They're hilarious to adorable.
JonC

This thread needs some love. D;









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:3

i love sir ian. he's awesome.

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;o

Didn't use Kiki for the witch

Oh, the 90s.

Last picture I laughed at was in the Rep Points thread.

This pic:


Speaking of Nyarlathotep here is another pic of Nyarly from Ayakashi Ghost Guild game:

I just made this GIF...AGAIN! I had an original account for gifsoup.com, but I forgot the username and pass for it so I made another account, and therefore another gif of this part of Mark 54's cutscene...cause it's funny.:
http://gifsoup.com/view7/4352202/hey-i-know-that-trot-o.gif
Sazh: 'Hey, I know that trot!'

I know I also posted this in the rep points thread too.

.................

Necrobumping this thread

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:laugh:

I grabbed this off fb and sent it to my 2 siblings and my mom. She drives a Ford Flex and the thing is huge. I hate driving it (we'll take turns when we go on family trips), it has a huge nose and therefore it feels like a bus. Plus mom has curly, frizzy hair like Miss Frizzle (though it's not red), so we call her Miss Frizzle and we call her Flex the magic school bus. Naturally when I stumbled across this the other day I was hysterical and I got an "lmao" reply from mom :laugh:

Leave it to China to give away major plot points on the cover.

He has no shoes! :roflspock:

But this time he has shoes! :roflworf:

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Here's a Polish poster for Planet of the Apes.



It's a literal planet of an ape, and I guess they figured they might as well ruin the twist ending too.

That's actually amazing. I love bootlegs and the like.

My god, what even

what the fuccckk lol

Here's a Polish poster for the Muppet Movie

Prepare yourself...


The longer you look, the worse it gets.

Somebody's distorted image of reality can be painful.

Science Fiction Perform Distinctive.

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:laugh: I wonder if that's from a genuine comic.

it's an edit

That was my first thought. The wonder came from how unorthodox I've seen that comics can be. :p

She presumably means that Haiti's poverty and thus inability to cope with weather catastrophes is connected to global racial dynamics.

I know what you mean though. Progressive-speak has gotten out of hand. They love their special vocabulary.

It's like secret twin language.

It's like secret twin language.

I wasn't familiar with this so I looked it up. Sounds pretty apt from this description:

"One of the popular myths about mulitples is that they share a secret language, a form of communication known only to them... However, it's actually very rare for twins to develop a true 'language,' and usually only in cases of extreme isolation. Rather, the phenomenon is actually attributable to young twins mimicking each other's attempts at language, often incorrectly."

She presumably means that Haiti's poverty and thus inability to cope with weather catastrophes is connected to global racial dynamics.

I think you're giving her too much credit. I think she was making a hackneyed "that's racist!" joke. Then she let everyone in the world know of her stupidity by attaching the BLM hashtag to it.

Also there are some pretty creepy stories about real-life twins. Whether or not you believe them is up to you though, some of them are pretty outlandish.

No, I think you're underestimating how many concepts are actually discussed this way. Also you missed that I was making fun of it.

BLM is not stupid. And if you're willing to believe "creepy" stories about twins it should be much easier to believe stories from black Americans about how they're treated by police.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_racism

You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say a thing against Black Lives Matter, only that the woman was stupid to attach her vapid post to such a prominent movement and it's hashtag.
I didn't realize that "environmental racism" was a term these madmen actually use; I thought that she was making a bad joke about how hard Haiti was hit last week by the hurricane. The only reason I lol'd at the image was because the hurricane wearing a Ku Klux Klan outfit looked funny. That's it.
And for the record I don't believe those creepy twin stories. But they are pretty creepy.

Black Lives Matter has become a terrorist group. Some of you probably want to deny it, but the truth and proof is out there.. not by "conspirations" this time. The plain, proven acts that they have done is enough.. A terrorist group is a group of people that has a leader that is recrouting youth for terrorist acts, which is what BLM was doing weeks ago over Twitter.. Just like ISIS, sounds familiar to you? A terrorist group disrupts peace by commiting acts of crimes.. like they did two or three weeks ago in that city I've forgotten the name of. You know, like.. literally breaking into shops, stealing, but the worst thing was killing and vandalizing white people just because they're white. Because.. hey! White racism doesn't exist, at all. White people are privileged.. racism to white people is just what they did that day.

You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say a thing against Black Lives Matter, only that the woman was stupid to attach her vapid post to such a prominent movement and it's hashtag.

I misunderstood that then. My bad.

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Black Lives Matter has become a terrorist group. Some of you probably want to deny it, but the truth and proof is out there.. not by "conspirations" this time. The plain, proven acts that they have done is enough.. A terrorist group is a group of people that has a leader that is recrouting youth for terrorist acts, which is what BLM was doing weeks ago over Twitter.. Just like ISIS, sounds familiar to you? A terrorist group disrupts peace by commiting acts of crimes.. like they did two or three weeks ago in that city I've forgotten the name of. You know, like.. literally breaking into shops, stealing, but the worst thing was killing and vandalizing white people just because they're white. Because.. hey! White racism doesn't exist, at all. White people are privileged.. racism to white people is just what they did that day.

I hope this is pasta.

Not pasta, I wrote it myself. I knew it'd piss of people that's why I put it in spoilers. I dunno why you really refuse to believe it. I know people who agree with me.. and they aren't rednecks, nor political people.. just plain friends.

Okay.... This thread now got tense.

This calls for doggies.

Black Lives Matter has become a terrorist group. Some of you probably want to deny it, but the truth and proof is out there.. not by "conspirations" this time. The plain, proven acts that they have done is enough.. A terrorist group is a group of people that has a leader that is recrouting youth for terrorist acts, which is what BLM was doing weeks ago over Twitter.. Just like ISIS, sounds familiar to you? A terrorist group disrupts peace by commiting acts of crimes.. like they did two or three weeks ago in that city I've forgotten the name of. You know, like.. literally breaking into shops, stealing, but the worst thing was killing and vandalizing white people just because they're white. Because.. hey! White racism doesn't exist, at all. White people are privileged.. racism to white people is just what they did that day.

Interesting.....but what is this doing in a thread about humor? Am I supposed to think you're joking?

Just The Norm....

I'm not pissed off and I'm not "refusing" to believe anything, it's just wrong. There is absolutely no definition of "terrorism" that BLM falls under. "Recruiting young people over Twitter" is not even such a definition though. You're going to have to get a whole lot more specific, and make an actual case or else you are just posting speculative nonsense. "I think some people in some city somewhere at some point who I think are BLM supporters did something bad" is not a compelling case. And you might say "well I'm not trying to make a case, I'm just stating my opinion," but calling people terrorists is a very serious accusation to make, and it's rather shitty behavior to go around wielding it and then refusing to support it. Trump-like behavior.

A note about racism. This is actually related to the vocabulary issues I was talking about before. A lot of conversations devolve and go nowhere because people aren't using the same lexicon.

Most progressives if push comes to shove won't actually deny that it's impossible for an individual to be personally racist towards white people, but that's not what they're talking about. What BLM and progressives in general are on about is institutionalized racism, a cultural and even global phenomenon that inherently disadvantages people of color. An individual might hate someone for being white, and that's not good, but the white person does not suffer any kind of oppression from it. He or she is still statistically more likely to get a job; more likely to have access to good education and public services; less likely to be stopped, harassed, arrested or shot by police.

This is not a defense of acts of violence towards white people on an individual basis. It's to point out that equating these events with the racism black people experience is harmful because they are not the same, and to do so simply shuts down any conversation of what is at work against blacks and not whites.

Very good reply, but you should've spoilered like I did so not all people have to see it.

Nonetheless I have nothing else to say on the matter.

Good. I unfortunately don't have a good picture on me right now.

I don't have a good funny picture to post either or else I'd have posted one

Black Lives Matter has become a terrorist group

They're not a group. It's a hashtag that people identify with a movement. There's no head honcho or universal leader as far as I know, it's just a bunch of guys doing their own things.
The problem with that though is, if you're in like Wyoming and you're part of a group that's ingested the "Black Lives Matter" into its identity, and another unrelated BLM-inspired group does something nasty in California, the Wyoming guys might be looked at as assholes for no reason other than the hashtag relation.

Very good reply, but you should've spoilered like I did so not all people have to see it.

Nah, I wanted people to see it. If they don't like it they can cry about it and then I will make fun of them.

Good. I unfortunately don't have a good picture on me right now.


I don't have a good funny picture to post either or else I'd have posted one

Luckily for you two, I'm here to save your asses.

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Watching the excavator slowwwly try to move away at the end always gets me

Indeed it was!

Indeed it was!

Apparently it was a geniune Tweet from Sean Murray,
but now they're trying to blame it on the Twitter Account being hacked.

It was a mistake in the form of a forced release. It should've been early access for months. Given the time, they could've pushed out the product they meant to.

Both Sony and Hello Games are at fault here, even the president of Sony had some things to say regarding the matter. I'll find and link to the article if can find it again.

As far as I can tell they did put out the product they meant to.
They just didn't put out the product they had advertised.

I honestly suspect that Sony was pressuring them for months. The advertising wasn't handled well either.

But Sony can do no wrong, can they?? Paaaah.

Apparently it was a geniune Tweet from Sean Murray,
but now they're trying to blame it on the Twitter Account being hacked.

It probably wasn't him. The related emails attributed to him are extremely suspicious. American spelling of "apologize" for example.

Apparently this tweet is the most interaction the company has had with the public in months.

:laugh:

His vocabulary is... simple. :p

"Folks, folks...it's very very bad."

I didn't stop laughing for a good two minutes when I saw this.

I'm horrified lol

^^
You frequent scat sites often, George?

:laugh: Nah. I think this was from tumblr.

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tumblr.

Oh man... take a seat George, we need to talk. It's time for an intervention.

I'm afraid that won't be necessary, Skellyton. I already know all about it. :p

Making up for some lost time

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My God...:laugh:

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Lol is that real? One button on the prototype? Shit, that has to be fake

Hell if I know. It most likely is fake, but seems well done with how it looks in the photo.

Although, on second thought the right side of the 'controller' looks a little screwy.

I hate those Biden memes. Bottom-of-the-barrel, low-intellect shit.

^It's a great transitional tool to prepare the uniformed for four years of Trump and the Great Twitter Warz.
Trust me...it's gonna be HUGE.

================
Google it...it's true!

Hell if I know. It most likely is fake, but seems well done with how it looks in the photo.

Although, on second thought the right side of the 'controller' looks a little screwy.

come on my man that is such an obvious photoshop. How is Miyamoto even supposed to be holding it? It's like magnet-attached to his fingers or some shit.

Pretty easy to find the original too

Well, that so especially after you see the original, which is what confirmed my suspicion. Thought it was hilarious as much as it was blatant, though. :laugh:

This made me lol pretty good.

Heh. Fuckin' protesters. Hope quite a few expected to be arrested, because I'm pretty sure that's what ended up happening. 'Peaceful protest' my ass.

Not sure about earlier today, but Inauguration Day was a definite.

Protest now, while Trump hasn't yet opened up his camps.
https://i.chzbgr.com/full/7863800576/h72A26C14/

This made me lol pretty good.

:laugh: What probably happened was all these Democrats who expected a landslide Clinton win bought their plane tickets in advance... and decided to put them to use anyway.

This thread is for funny pictures only

Oops. And that's not funny? I don't know, I'm pretty sure that I lol'd. At that, there's been some stuff posted here that I didn't think was too funny either, but I'm not gonna say anything.

Ah...and just so we're clear, I did not make that picture.

Jeb! isn't funny. Jeb! was never funny. Jeb!-posting is the most-forced meme I've ever seen and that's saying something, since I've seen what Biden memes look like. :-P

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Besides, the only army Jeb! would ever have would be an army of turtles.

I haven't actually seen many Jeb memes around...other than whatever the hell you call what I've made before. The Biden memes can go to hell though.

Heh. Fuckin' protesters. Hope quite a few expected to be arrested, because I'm pretty sure that's what ended up happening. 'Peaceful protest' my ass.

Not sure about earlier today, but Inauguration Day was a definite.

The protests yesterday were entirely peaceful. I haven't seen word of a single arrest.

The people who caused the trouble on inauguration day were a fringe anarchist group. They do not represent the majority of Americans who are against Trumpy and are going to be making his presidency a living hell for the next four years.

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Here's a fun post for Clonemaster from the Atlanta police dept. But keep looking, I'm sure you can find something damning of the dirty hippy liberal protesters on Breitbart or RT.

https://www.facebook.com/AtlantaPoliceDpt/videos/1397309850279873/

And then there's Portland:
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Those officers are jaywalking!
:notgood:

They're in the crosswalk.
At most, they're jaystanding.
Not sure if that rates a ticket.

Well, an officer's gotta meet his quota somehow.

They won't bother. They each know the other is a friend of the force.

Wait... are those sunflowers on their jackets? What's the significance of that?

It's something the protesters were giving out.
Presumably with the hats.

This made me lol pretty good.

Yeah well, I have some alternative facts for you buddy.

..........what you want evidence or something? This is about creating jobs! Did you know that some reporter tweeted something about a statue in the oval office that was inaccurate? And let's not forget Benghazi!

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rofl I'm going to post that everywhere

Then my work is done.


(Not that this is my work.)

Alternate facts must be what euphenisms are.

Explains a lot about the Trumpy campaign.

It was just coined this morning by Kellyanne Conway to explain why Spicer's numbers about attendance at the inauguration ("the biggest one ever") did not match any other source.

Oh, wow; so, Sean Spicer is a deceptive idiot now? 'Factual' news to me! And out of the clear blue sky, it seems. Ya know, I've seen this song and dance happen before, time, and time again. I know all of the steps, and it's really, really old. The 'dishonest media' did the same thing to Ben Carson; treated him with the same demeanor. It's really a desperate, miserable, pathetic display, and it shows.

By God, they should just give up.

Ya know, I've seen this song and dance happen before, time, and time again.

Your long gray beard sways like a pendulum, counting down the last few tired moments you'll spend on this dying rock as you watch its foolish youth repeat the tragedies of their forefathers, who you also watched as a younger man. You've dispensed the last of your wisdom, which you obtained from googling Heritage Foundation reports and Alex Jones podcasts.

Looking down from the precipice that extends forth from the cave in which you've spent the last several winters communing with the spirits, your eyes close and you let the new wind wash over you, absorb the changing smell in the air, take in the new notes in the earth's song.

You have spoken, and your words are now with those who will shape the future. It is time to rest. A long rest, a long time coming.

All right, TK, but where did the last 70+ years go?

Heh, you know, I do wonder how I'll be as an old man.

"Don't listen to them! Don't listen to what the media tells you!"

"It's all a lie! Lock your doors! Open your windows! Get under the floorboards! And get off my lawn!"

:iveseenthings:

But anyway, you don't have to live a thousand days and nights or be 'all knowing and wise' to see how this kind of stuff has a sort of pattern. Most of the news outlets will always be trying to incite discouragement and regret among those who voted for or support Trump. And half or little more than the population is still completely oblivious to it, or just downright hate him, without any further explanation or elaboration other than "he's racist..., etc". If their line of politically-attentive reporting on what they call news hasn't caught the suspecting eye yet, then it's starting to catch on. But I always do love me some Alex Jones (https://vine.co/v/imU9vWMZ9dm). And then some... (https://vine.co/v/5WhAvD5HKnh)

In short, how much of the reporting on the White House briefing is being handled is exactly what Spicer was to referring to in the briefing itself. That's what I mean. Like pointing to who stole the diamond while it's being stolen, but most of the people in the room are somehow blind and still don't notice, yet they project blame aimlessly.

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You know FFShrine is in trouble when Clonemaster starts shitposting ironically.

There is not an individual posting under the screen name CLONEMASTER 6.53 in this thread.

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God I love me some alternative facts.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but y'all brought it up. And what other way does one respond to something like that?

By not responding at all, perhaps, but it's already a funny internet image thread, I think that goes hand in hand with shitposting. Psh...

But anyway, you don't have to live a thousand days and nights or be 'all knowing and wise' to see how this kind of stuff has a sort of pattern. Most of the news outlets will always be trying to incite discouragement and regret among those who voted for or support Trump. And half or little more than the population is still completely oblivious to it, or just downright hate him, without any further explanation or elaboration other than "he's racist..., etc". If their line of politically-attentive reporting on what they call news hasn't caught the suspecting eye yet, then it's starting to catch on. But I always do love me some Alex Jones (https://vine.co/v/imU9vWMZ9dm). And then some... (https://vine.co/v/5WhAvD5HKnh)

We went through this before and I explained to you in massive detail the reasons why people are so deeply against Trump. I showed you examples. You have only your own willful ignorance to blame if you still don't understand why he is being met with so much resistance.

You are hiding under a protective blanket you got from slanted pro-Trump sources claiming that everything you see from any media that isn't them is propaganda. See above how, for example, you assumed that a bunch of people were arrested and rioted during the women's march on Washington, even though you had no idea? This is because you're basing your ideas on a narrative you've bought into. Because you've bought into the narrative, anything reported that conflicts with it must be misinformation - and since there's so much that conflicts with it, the only conclusion you can come to is that they're all engaged in some huge premeditated disinformation campaign to smear poor Trumpy.

They're not. It's true that most big media organizations are comprised mainly of people with liberal political leanings. It's true this results in some bias. But it's false that this means everything they say about Trump is a premeditated lie. Journalists actually have ethics standards they use and there are laws which enforce those standards. And you can look up the facts yourself. You can look at the photographic evidence. What the media said about Trump's inauguration was true. What Trump said about it was false. These are facts. There are no "alternative facts" to them. There are only lies. Trump lies constantly. He lies on an almost daily basis. His platform is built on lies. And they're all lies that are perfectly discoverable if you care enough to bother. It's up to you to do the work it will take to uncover that, if you choose to.

For those who don't get it - it's a visual representation of censorship standards for each

:doc:

We went through this before and I explained to you in massive detail the reasons why people are so deeply against Trump. I showed you examples. You have only your own willful ignorance to blame if you still don't understand why he is being met with so much resistance.

You are hiding under a protective blanket you got from slanted pro-Trump sources claiming that everything you see from any media that isn't them is propaganda. See above how, for example, you assumed that a bunch of people were arrested and rioted during the women's march on Washington, even though you had no idea? This is because you're basing your ideas on a narrative you've bought into. Because you've bought into the narrative, anything reported that conflicts with it must be misinformation - and since there's so much that conflicts with it, the only conclusion you can come to is that they're all engaged in some huge premeditated disinformation campaign to smear poor Trumpy.

They're not. It's true that most big media organizations are comprised mainly of people with liberal political leanings. It's true this results in some bias. But it's false that this means everything they say about Trump is a premeditated lie. Journalists actually have ethics standards they use and there are laws which enforce those standards. And you can look up the facts yourself. You can look at the photographic evidence. What the media said about Trump's inauguration was true. What Trump said about it was false. These are facts. There are no "alternative facts" to them. There are only lies. Trump lies constantly. He lies on an almost daily basis. His platform is built on lies. And they're all lies that are perfectly discoverable if you care enough to bother. It's up to you to do the work it will take to uncover that, if you choose to.

I've been saying this a lot since the election, and I think it's worth repeating here. I think it's detrimental for us to bother debating with these people. It's been the same game for 8 years. A lot of them, especially the younger ones shitting up the internet, were raised in environments where they were only ever exposed to Fox and other fake news, and that world view is thoroughly ingrained in them. We walk into these discussions trying to reach an amicable agreement based on facts, reason, and basic principles. They don't view it that way. To them it's more like a word game, where winning is a matter of standing your ground under all circumstances. There's no thinking involved. No amount of clarity or openness will result in anything but staunch resistance, on this forum or a hundred other forums or Facebook or any other venue you've attempted to engage them in. It's consistent. It's ingrained in their culture.

And for us the brick wall debate is just exhausting and demoralizing. I think we're better to just shun them and focus on organizing ourselves. I mean, we're the majority. Only 'alternative facts' dispute that. We just have to start acting like it.

I disagree. I'm not interested in us vs. them divisions.

@Shad That argument could just as easily be used by those people you shun against the left: 'they're close-minded; they won't listen to reason; they stick to their own news corner and don't come out'. I heard on the radio in December some Mormon woman being interviewed. The county that woman lived in had ended up voting red - majority Trump. She said something along the lines of, "It's scary to think I'm surrounded by people who hate me!" Bullshit! - and it's not hard to see where she got those thoughts if one looks at the headlines and stories run by many news organizations, which portrayed Trump's supporters as devil-worshipers.

I'm with TK on this one. Not wasting words on deaf ears is one thing, but 'shunning' is another. Don't trap yourself in your own bubble because you're tired of the seeing opposition be trapped in theirs.

I disagree. I'm not interested in us vs. them divisions.

Certain aspects of that division are simply reality at this point. Two peasants meander into an arena and the gate shuts behind them, you can try all you want to make the other guy work with you to find another way out, but if the chanting of the crowd gets his blood boiling and he picks up the sword, guess which one of you is fucked.

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lulz analogies

#sodeep

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@Shad That argument could just as easily be used by those people you shun against the left: 'they're close-minded; they won't listen to reason; they stick to their own news corner and don't come out'. I heard on the radio in December some Mormon woman being interviewed. The county that woman lived in had ended up voting red - majority Trump. She said something along the lines of, "It's scary to think I'm surrounded by people who hate me!" Bullshit! - and it's not hard to see where she got those thoughts if one looks at the headlines and stories run by many news organizations, which portrayed Trump's supporters as devil-worshipers.

I'm with TK on this one. Not wasting words on deaf ears is one thing, but 'shunning' is another. Don't trap yourself in your own bubble because you're tired of the seeing opposition be trapped in theirs.

Everyone deserves a chance to be reasonable. Those who have proven they can't should not be offered further voice, in my opinion.

Certain aspects of that division are simply reality at this point. Two peasants meander into an arena and the gate shuts behind them, you can try all you want to make the other guy work with you to find another way out, but if the chanting of the crowd gets his blood boiling and he picks up the sword, guess which one of you is fucked.

Yeah, it's a poor analogy. That doesn't represent this situation at all.

Everyone deserves a chance to be reasonable. Those who have proven they can't should not be offered further voice, in my opinion.

Reasonable according to who, you? Setting up your own echo chamber doesn't make any problems go away.

Yeah, it's a poor analogy. That doesn't represent this situation at all.


Reasonable according to who, you?

Trump did not draw the largest crowd of any presidential inauguration.

It did not pour down rain when Trump's speech ended.

Trump did not hold the first ever inauguration concert.

The lack of star performers at this concert was not because Trump planned it as a small affair.

Trump did not maintain a positive relationship with the CIA during the post-election transition period.

All of these things are verifiable facts. You can watch the videos. You can look at the images. You can read Trump's own previous official statements.

If you agree with the White House that these are subjective topics, you are not a reasonable individual.

If disagreeing with this is an act of partisanship, then partisanship is not a choice on any sort of intellectual level.

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This isn't a new issue in American politics. It's been a growing problem for more than a decade. Trump just fast tracked it to its extreme limit. It's one of the same tactics Putin used to solidify power in Russia.

Those facts aren't alternative enough for my tastes! ;-)

The alternative to devolving ourselves to the level of debating whether grass is green and whether the sun rises in the east is to not tolerate this sort of behavior, neither from the president nor from his constituents who choose to embrace it. These people should not be allowed to manipulate where our attention is focused.

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Those facts aren't alternative enough for my tastes! ;-)

fuck did the troll just get trolled?

Nah
It almost was though. I seriously considered leaving that wink emoticon off so that it could be interpreted as bait.

Wouldn't have bought that line without the http://forums.ffshrine.org/images/smilies/aimwink.gif

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There is a significant difference between not accepting an ideological stand and shunning.
You can choose to reject a political viewpoint and still try to deal with another human being on a level as simply another human being.
I reject almost every ideological stances my boss has, and will say so whenever he is foolish enough to bring the subject up. But I don't let it interfere with my job, and it doesn't stop me from having quite pleasant discussions about history, or film, or other random subjects.

Concentrate on what you share and not what you don't.

At the most cynical level, be the person they would rather associate with, without ever betraying your own values.
(Unless your value is to reject everyone who does not share your values. Then you are literally on your own.)

Who holds hands with both hands?

Wall of text alert. I also replied because I would look like an idiot running away from opposition if I didn't....though there's also the possibility I'll look like an idiot anyway. Oh well... I guess it's what happens when you're FFShrine's Trump surrogate or whatever. :laugh:

We went through this before and I explained to you in massive detail the reasons why people are so deeply against Trump. I showed you examples. You have only your own willful ignorance to blame if you still don't understand why he is being met with so much resistance.

No, I have dishonest media outlets to blame if I don't understand. They constantly project their own version of what happens, and the people who listen/watch/read that stuff are the ones who are ill-informed and most strongly opposed to Trump - as well as how I pointed out earlier; every instance most opponents are asked why they dislike Trump, why they think he's a bad person, why they think he's an illegitimate president, they usually don't offer any elaboration whatsoever - other then various phrases and ideas persistently repeated and forced on us by the media such as 'he's racist' and 'he's a white supremacist' and 'he's a liar'. I even saw somebody say 'he's homosexual' at one point. But no elaboration. It works because of the "tell a lie often enough..." tactic they use. And this is something you could see for yourself if you look for it.


You are hiding under a protective blanket you got from slanted pro-Trump sources claiming that everything you see from any media that isn't them is propaganda. See above how, for example, you assumed that a bunch of people were arrested and rioted during the women's march on Washington, even though you had no idea? This is because you're basing your ideas on a narrative you've bought into. Because you've bought into the narrative, anything reported that conflicts with it must be misinformation - and since there's so much that conflicts with it, the only conclusion you can come to is that they're all engaged in some huge premeditated disinformation campaign to smear poor Trumpy.

I never assumed, nor did I say anything about the woman's march on Washington. I was referring to the protests and riots right near Trump's inauguration - over 200 were arrested because they became violent. It was actually on the radio inauguration day and I heard it myself; that's not assuming by any means on my part. You were the one who assumed that I assumed.

And I hope you would know by now that I would never say anything concerning politics ever again unless I knew what I was talking about, after what happened in Februrary or whatever, so yeah.


You are hiding under a protective blanket you got from slanted pro-Trump sources claiming that everything you see from any media that isn't them is propaganda.

It's all propaganda. However there's such thing as good propaganda, and bad propaganda. Both sides offer plenty of it on the usual basis, there's no denying it.


This is because you're basing your ideas on a narrative you've bought into. Because you've bought into the narrative, anything reported that conflicts with it must be misinformation - and since there's so much that conflicts with it, the only conclusion you can come to is that they're all engaged in some huge premeditated disinformation campaign to smear poor Trumpy.

Oh, it totally is. That should be obvious to you by now if you look at how most of the media handles their reports and info on Mr. Trump. Maybe not 100% of it is, but anything they consider danger-close in their intended nationwide representation of Trump is going to be put through their own filter, and skewed and distorted into most of what you'll see on the front page of Google, or Facebook. It's hideous and it's desperately pathetic. And it's really noticeable. I mean, really, really noticeable. I can read through or watch anything from NBC on Mr. Trump and filter out all of the crap to a simple 'he's very very bad'. I look at the front page of a Goggle search to see what further sad display they make of depicting Trump as an evil and disfigured individual, and can easily go off of that material abundantly provided to try to make an example here.

The example is that the media doesn't set out to be truthful with what they release on Mr. Trump, like any truly credible news outlet should. Instead, the material presented by them is either made up, or skewed in some way or another to fit their lines of attempt to depict him as the worst president to ever bear the title and sit in the oval office. The liar, the Nazi, the racist, the dictator, the white supremacist, the illegitimate president; it's laughable. It's ridiculous, outrageous, egregious, and preposterous. No, they're not so forthright with these ideas, but anyone can gather from a month's time the suggestions and conceptual narrative they're trying really hard to push, the narrative that you're coming from.


They're not. It's true that most big media organizations are comprised mainly of people with liberal political leanings. It's true this results in some bias. But it's false that this means everything they say about Trump is a premeditated lie. Journalists actually have ethics standards they use and there are laws which enforce those standards. And you can look up the facts yourself. You can look at the photographic evidence. What the media said about Trump's inauguration was true. What Trump said about it was false. These are facts. There are no "alternative facts" to them. There are only lies. Trump lies constantly. He lies on an almost daily basis. His platform is built on lies. And they're all lies that are perfectly discoverable if you care enough to bother. It's up to you to do the work it will take to uncover that, if you choose to.

I've chosen to, and that's how I know what I'm talking about. I don't think you have, though, because much of what you're saying sounds like it's from NBC's narrative or something. The media speaks to us as if we're fucking idiots; what they report, how they report it, and they way they manipulate the material for it to have their intended effect is a downright insult to our intelligence.

Look at how they completely ignored the fact that Sean Spicer was referring to the collective audience of the inauguration - meaning people who were actually there, as well as viewers from television and the internet - he said it was the largest audience an inauguration had ever attracted... which is totally true! But even along with his stating the other factors to support that point, the media still deliberately took it as he was was referring solely to the physical audience, and by the virtue of their utilization of only that attribute in reports, that gives them some false justification for attempting to characterizing him as a liar and losing he credibility. Do you see how hard they're pushing that idea? They've made that rather small detail of the inauguration's physical audience the main headline for a couple days at the least, and the while being overly-dramatic about it. Anybody who isn't the media would know that's bullshit just by having seen it with their own eyes. Everything Spicer said in that White House briefing was true; it was a smack in the face to the pathetically-deceitful media and it was absolutely amazing and nearly unbelievable to see those words spoken of how the media handles reporting be exposed and brought to light - in the White House! :)

But these aren't new tactics either on the media's part, this goes back as far as the duration of Reagan's campaign - probably even farther. Only this time around the coverage on Trump is just much more relentless in every sense of the word.

...There's also this 'alternate reality' that most of the left have been subjected to, and often it seems as if they're actually living in one. Comments from the left side of Mr. Trump's inauguration speech consist of remarks like 'it was very dark' and 'depressing' etc... Really? That one must've been literally pulled out of the trash hole because I felt anything but darkness coming from that speech. It's what happens when you form a belief system upon and base you 'facts', ideas, and concepts entirely from the narrative that the media has consistently encouraged and, basically forced down everyone's throats. It was actually an amazing speech; the general idea of which was that 'we' (not I) are giving the government back to the people, as opposed to politicians who are only serving mostly for their own benefit. You know, 'for the people, by the people'. You talked to me about that months ago. But that's what a government is; to govern, serve, and protect; America as a whole just let it get out of hand.

These 'alternative facts' have been labeled as such because, what they mean by alternative facts, is that in the White House's pursuit to fight the media 'tooth and nail' over their coverage of Mr. Trump, they will be offering these alternative facts, as an alternative to the 'facts' (which are in fact, lies and falsehoods) the media oh so credibly provide us with. Those facts are the truth; they're coming from inside the White House now; from the core; from the various intelligent people Trump has surrounded himself with who know what the hell they're doing. Trump needs these people - as well as tough support - to succeed.

Trump doesn't lie constantly. He doesn't lie on a daily basis, nor is his platform built on lies. No one soul is perfect, and neither is Trump. Mistakes are made by every human being, but the notion that he lies regularly is merely a derivative of the narrative that you've bought into. We can sit here all day and tell each other that where we get our information from is a slanted, biased, political source, but that doesn't change a thing about facts. All I can say is that what I know is the truth, and you can say is that it's not. It's an endless cycle, essentially.

And there's the sides who exploit the truth to their own aim, and there's the truth. And there's only one truth. And we should love the truth so much, that we'd not be willing to sacrifice merit over selfish desire.

Sorry that I don't get my conceptualized political beliefs and information from the headlines and first couple pages, but I'm trying be well informed on what is in reality actually happening as of right now in Washington, in the White House, etc, and I'm not going to get honest-to-god facts from the media and news outlets that shamelessly lie right to our faces each day. I'm not following that bullshit narrative that I've been exposed to. I've made a conscious decision to flat-out reject it, as one doesn't even need a 'source' to see that what's being widely reported on is flat-out lies about what's afoot in the the Trump administration. The thing about conservatives and places like the Heritage Foundation is that they don't care about defaming a once-well-respected-by-many-to-shunned-by-the-media businessman as a racist, white-supremacist, Nazi, who's the worst president to ever set foot in the White House, they're only interested in letting facts and the downright truth be known, and not letting the dishonest media run the population's beliefs into the concrete. Look into it enough and you'll see that they also have credible sources - some that may even be coming from the Trump cabinet themselves. And if that wouldn't be enough, you can even visit Washington and the White House yourself to see whats really going on. Beyond that, the media saying things like 'it simply didn't rain as Mr. Trump began to speak' is challenging our perception of reality and putting it to question.

And maybe still you'll ask where I've read or seen these things from, who I've listened to, or to even present hard evidence, but I've come to realize that no matter what I say, or what I present, or what I'll tell you, you'll most likely, with no regard, push it aside as a 'biased thinktank narrative' or some shit like that, when you yourself are coming from the same exact position I am, only our information is different. We're both awfully stubborn with our beliefs (everybody is) and no matter what we tell each other, it'll probably stay that way, at least until truth knocks someone up the side of the head. A politically-driven argument, with a liberal, especially (not saying you are one) is a profoundly futile endeavor, and there's a certain point of where it has to be dropped entirely, as it's going nowhere because of how insistent each party is in their belief system.

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A perfect example of some of what I mean. Although this is from a screenshot of mine () taken on December 10th, I did actually lol at this, so it's perfectly relevant.

For those who don't get it - it's a visual representation of censorship standards for each


and this is why i dont play pc games. naked men = DEATH.

and i have successfuly fetishised hijabs so i got a boner out of all 4 images

Congratulations!

It's funny because it's true.

Were there any movies about struggling historical figures this year?
Does the McDonald's movie count?

Yes, but it got no nominations.
However, Hidden Figures, Hacksaw Ridge, and Lion (best picture) are all based on true events.
As are Loving, Florence Foster Jenkins, and Jackie (best actress).
Also, Elle (best actress,) is in French as is one of the best animated films, My Life as a Zucchini.

Clearly I've been out of the loop for 2016 cinema!

I've only gone to a theater once this year (Deadpool,) but I live on imdb.

im really gonna miss the internet when the great zombie gopher apocalypse of 2021 hits.

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I love white chocolate.

George Takei's burn was fantastic xD

And I hope you would know by now that I would never say anything concerning politics ever again unless I knew what I was talking about,

I absolutely don't know this, as I will now demonstrate.



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A perfect example of some of what I mean. Although this is from a screenshot of mine () taken on December 10th, I did actually lol at this, so it's perfectly relevant.

This is actually a wonderful example of what I'm talking about. What you're engaged in right now is pretty much exactly the kind of thing Trump and his supporters have been doing ever since he started running. You are presenting something real in a misleading way.

Your screenshot doesn't show the section of the Washington Post that this article is under: Opinion. It's quite clearly stated on their web site, however, that that's what it is.

Now, you may want to point out that the Post doesn't publish pro-Trump opinion pieces. You're absolutely right about that. And in that regard it's correct to argue that they have something of a liberal bias - though it is worth pointing out that many extremely conservative organizations are adamantly against Donald Trump as well. But what you are ignoring is that they're placing a clear dividing line between facts and opinions.

There are plenty of reasons to argue that Donald Trump is a fascist. He has both stated a desire to, and engaged in actions that are absolutely standard for fascists, including silencing people and media that say things he doesn't like, human rights violations such as torture, and banning people from the country based on their religion. Just to name a few, but that is by no means exhaustive. Now you can argue that you think these things are justified - but you can't argue that they aren't tactics extremely characteristic of fascists.

You claim that you know what the truth is because you have sources that speak it and you know that the mainstream media is lying. But my previous experience has been that all you do is look for sources which make claims you already agree with and then point to them as if that proves it. When the subject of Obama supposedly weakening the country's military came up, a completely absurd claim by any measure, your only "source" for this was a report by the Heritage Foundation expressing the opinion that Obama had not invested in the military enough. This is an organization that exists solely to make arguments for conservative values. They are not an objective source of information, and in this case what they were offering was a subjective valuation in the first place.

Here are facts: Obama's inaugurations both vastly exceeded Trump's in attendance. This is easily 100% provable and not because the New York Times said so. There is clear, undeniable photographic evidence. There are records of metro tickets for the days. These are the facts, and they verify the story that the media told.

Yet Trump claimed, citing absolutely no evidence whatsoever, that it was the biggest inauguration ever, and his team has also massively exaggerated the turnout while blatantly ignoring the evidence I listed above. This is called lying. They are liars. Trump lied. Spicer lied. Conway lied. The things they said were false. After being pointed to the actual facts, they continued to make their false claims, which means they are knowingly lying.

There are endless examples of this behavior, but let's just stick to the one. You want to prove that you're informed and the media is wrong? Show me the evidence you have. Not the opinion of someone that there might be a legitimate basis for Trump's claims or something - show me facts. Prove to me your guy isn't a liar.

And I thought I was the one with a penis-size obsession :D

Anyway, the picture that made me laugh a lot the last days was this:

*teleports behind you*

Cosplayer couldn't find a chick to go with

So excited for the next Star Wars movie
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You claim that you know what the truth is because you have sources that speak it and you know that the mainstream media is lying. But my previous experience has been that all you do is look for sources which make claims you already agree with and then point to them as if that proves it. When the subject of Obama supposedly weakening the country's military came up, a completely absurd claim by any measure, your only "source" for this was a report by the Heritage Foundation expressing the opinion that Obama had not invested in the military enough. This is an organization that exists solely to make arguments for conservative values. They are not an objective source of information, and in this case what they were offering was a subjective valuation in the first place.

Here are facts: Obama's inaugurations both vastly exceeded Trump's in attendance. This is easily 100% provable and not because the New York Times said so. There is clear, undeniable photographic evidence. There are records of metro tickets for the days. These are the facts, and they verify the story that the media told.

Yet Trump claimed, citing absolutely no evidence whatsoever, that it was the biggest inauguration ever, and his team has also massively exaggerated the turnout while blatantly ignoring the evidence I listed above. This is called lying. They are liars. Trump lied. Spicer lied. Conway lied. The things they said were false. After being pointed to the actual facts, they continued to make their false claims, which means they are knowingly lying.

There are endless examples of this behavior, but let's just stick to the one. You want to prove that you're informed and the media is wrong? Show me the evidence you have. Not the opinion of someone that there might be a legitimate basis for Trump's claims or something - show me facts. Prove to me your guy isn't a liar.

How do I know that the mainstream media is biased?

Look at how fixated they are at the crowd size of Trump's inauguration. Look at how relentlessly hostile they are about Donald Trump. They are the only collective that continue and persist that he is lying. All CNN wants to do is call Trump a liar; racist; white-supremacist; misogynist; whatever other now-politicized terms they can come up with, and by their math because they say it is so, it is so. No one of the controlled-media ever called out Clinton for being a liar (or anything else she truly was), even when she's more blatantly demonstrated that she is a liar more so than Trump ever has with his supposed lies; that are actually just rather bold statements that are taken with extreme offense to by the media and those who follow their reality. The media is colluded and in a partnership with the alt-left radical movement. They're only in it to report what they see as helpful to their cause, not for (f)actual information to be told of what happens, as it happens, behind closed doors. Bullshit like crowd size is the media's attention - not what actually matters, like all of the immense progress that Trump's made within the first five days of his presidency; they've not said a word about it as of now, but they'll 'talk' about how Spicer lied when he only pointed out how dishonest and irresponsible the AP (Associated Press) were in how they reported their information to us. Or they'll 'talk' about how Trump was divided in his speech instead of united in its message - which was its message. You'd have to be living in an alternate reality to see his speech as 'dark, depressing and divided' instead what anybody with common-sense could take away from its point. Or they'll 'talk' about how in his speech insulted people on stage, when he wouldn't have any reason to if they weren't involved in shady shit and instead did their jobs like they say they do.

They themselves - Clinton, Obama, most politicians, etc are only in it for their own interest, cause, and benefit. Not to the American people's interests. Not to serve and protect us and our drive for a prosperous lifetime, only to serve and protect themselves. Their oh so very credible media are in secret supportive of that cause, by how they control what's released and what goes out, and the intentional effect it will have, as well as referral to the White House and places like InfoWars as 'fake news' when it's the exact opposite and such has been spoken for a very long time, which is a definitely longer bout than when the media began deflecting that argument to the opposite side. They too, benefit from supporting their cause as they're paid for doing it. They're lazy, they don't do their jobs, they don't research what they report on Trump's doings; they're instead told what to say and how to say it, and, typical handling and behavior of their false claims consist of being overly dramatic and disproportionate on the smallest points that they've made out of bigger spectacles, and little trivia that they make the biggest deal out of. They don't employ investigative journalism - because journalism doesn't work to their enterprise; there's no money in it. They only employ misrepresentation, exaggeration, and distortion of facts in their method of reporting, using what they call journalism, and a tactic of repeating a lie often enough for it be deemed believable. Because of their high stance within the media, long establishment as a respected business(s), and credibility, they're allowed to do this. They are fake news. People will believe that crap because 'it's from CBS!'. Further explanation and elaboration (https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/01/23/reporters-tell-me-the-truth-off-the-record-the-fake-news-business/), and example;

“Reporters in my business have two choices. They can lower their IQs and become cynics, or they can maintain their intelligence and get booted out. That’s what it comes down to. Anybody with an IQ over 90 can see we have agendas. The whole business is agenda-driven. The main job of a reporter who wants to keep working is developing a cover—pretending he’s speaking the truth. This is a cover for his real identity. A guy who pleases his bosses. Several of us had the whole Bill Clinton-Monica Lewinsky story before it was published. We wanted to go with it, but we were told to sit on it. So it was our job to agree with that assessment. We had to pretend we didn’t have enough proof yet. We had the proof, but we had to make it seem like we were responsible journalists and needed more. That was a bunch of crap. The agenda was to protect ourselves from the wrath of the White House. That’s what the editors and the publishers were talking about among themselves. Sure—protect the president. But the real thing was the fear that he and his people would strike back at us and do us damage.”

They're biased as all hell.

And the fact of the matter is, they have to be, or they'll lose their job. It's something they fall in to, and others stay in because they want the money. And these quotes are from people who sooner or later realized it, and made the decision to get out of that deceptive void; the business of where your doing your job is based upon whatever headlines will make the money and sell the stories - even if they must fabricate the material in such a way to make it believable, rather than being based upon fact, truthful reporting on fact, and being honest about it. They're entirely agenda-driven, not truth-driven.

Does that make sense? Or is it just coming from my slanted conservative-based value table?


Oh, and guess what? Donald Trump is not a liar. Nor is his staff. He's already, within the first seven days of his presidency, fulfilled and made good on the promises that he'd made a point of during his campaign.

He's already reiterating those many promises that he continually made. He's signed a total of five (more, as I speak) executive orders thus far, (such as for Keystone XL Pipeline, or sanctuary cities) and he's also been transparent about it. Like even going as far as to put a camera up to his signing basically indicating; "Look, I signed this. This is what it's about." That cannot be disputed.

He's cracking down on the urgency and importance of border security (don't tell me the wall shouldn't be built; Mexico is and should be held both accountable and responsible for whoever crosses(ed) over that border, and despite recurrent affirmations from the Mexican president that they will not be paying for the wall; they will end up paying for the wall, in some form, one way, or another.) It's an attribute essential to our sovereignty.

He, within the first hour, withdrew us from the Trans-Pacific-Partnership - another campaign promise.

He's eliminated Obamacare, which he said he'd do, and which he's had a replacement plan for, and he's already nearly or completely reversed and eradicated all of Obama's foreign policies, amnesties. and (illegal) acts he's committed as a president that have proven to be detrimental to the nation's government, as well as it's financial status. Donald Trump has erased all of the crap that Barack Obama has 'done for the American people' and practically destroyed his reputation.

He's made progress in his claims that he can establish and maintain a positive relationship and peaceful negotiations with foreign countries, and has already met with various Prime Ministers and other world leaders, and has other planned meetings (with Prime Minister of Great Britain, for example). This is another affair that he was insistent in how he could straight up ace it.

The country is overall benefiting from what he's accomplished. For example, the Dow hit 20K for the first time in history just recently. Another example, job creation; Ford cancelled plans for moving to Mexico and invested $700 million in a plant in Michigan, and as a result about 700 jobs were saved that would've instead shifted to Mexico. This ties in with Trump's championing that he could create jobs for the American people. It's on behalf of Trump influencing policies and laws to a certain direction by means of all of what he was allowed to do within the jurisdiction as a president-elect. Similar happenings with Sprint and OneWeb occurred as to how they announced they would be adding thousands of jobs to the US within their respective companies. Once again a result of what Trump had already done to make that possible. Before he even took office, he proved to be quite the job creator - as he promised.

And I don't believe we've ever seen a president tackle and run through a checklist of promises as persistently, effectively, and steadily as he has this past week. These were all fundamental promises; immigration, unnecessary regulations, corporate tax cuts, providing of American jobs, extreme vetting of refugees, the appointing of an (most likely) originalist justice on the supreme court, border security (building the wall), energy independence, giving education back to the states, and, at that, the government back to the people. It's like watching an executive work in contrast to how a politician will work, an executive will role up his sleeves and get the work done. Trump is and always has been more than willing to do just this. He's a hard worker. He's working faster than the speed of light, it's utterly amazing. I was confident that he could do it, and I was right, and so was he. Donald Trump is simply not a liar. At least not where it really counts. If anything whatsoever, he's only ever made a quite small amount of very trivial mistakes that are irrelevant to the main cause, and the media takes these and unjustifiably expands upon them as news, on a regular basis, and that's how they've made him look bad to half the population. They've gotten everything about him wrong - go and ask anybody who personally knows him.

And what reason does Trump have to lie in the first place? He doesn't, because he's coming into the political arena without ever having set foot within it; therefore no crookedly-biased or slanted political standpoint to 'broadcast lies' from.


On the inauguration and it's debate; the photographic evidence is most definitely deniable, and here's the why, and the how; http://ijr.com/2017/01/784781-the-highest-quality-photograph-of-trumps-inauguration-yet-has-been-released-guess-what-the-crowd-looks-like/

The photo being passed around in 'comparisons' was deliberately taken before the whole of the audience arrived, and that was one of the easiest stunts that could've been pulled in the attempt of lying about it's attendance, or basically saying "See? no one cares for this Trump guy. Now give up." Sean Spicer's point was that, beforehand, the media intentionally framed Trump's inauguration crowd size as an unrealistically significant measure smaller than Obama's; purposely demonstrating what could technically be considered 'immature' evidence that was passed off as the comparison between Trump's and Obama's inauguration attendance. The 'gigapixel' of Trump's inauguration that CNN provided proves Trump's and Spicer's claims that the audience did reach nearly all the way back to the Washington Monument; space that was seen completely empty in "clear, undeniable photographic evidence" presented before, which this gigapixel also disproves, and simultaneously proves that the precedent photographic evidence provided as comparison was taken before the whole of the audience arrived, and was in fact used to discourage and distort real enthusiasm for the inauguration and President Trump himself.

I think this was most surprising and quite rare on CNN's part to have brought forth a clear, extremely detailed, high resolution photo of the inauguration area, and believe they did so because, if they dragged out the claims of insignificant attendance at the inauguration any longer, while there exists a photo that can potentially be utilized as proof for Spicer's and Trump's claims, (and therefore cannot be further disputed) they would indeed lose their credibility and it would become even more perfectly obvious what they're trying to do.

And Spicer's claims that it was the largest audience an inauguration has ever drawn still hold true as he's forthrightly made that statement with total and collective of the physical attendance, the digital streaming and viewership of the web and television, tallied with even the protesters who continually blocked any possible entry way, and as a result, made a lot of people afraid to try to attempt to get into the inauguration, without being attacked.

Sean Spicer insists that 'our intention is never to lie to you', and this is kept up by how he's openly and admittedly corrected any unintentionally-mistaken information that was reported, and by how the claims that they persist to stand by, are proven by what I explained above; something that will still probably be ignored so that they can justify their reporting on how Trump, Spicer, and the White House are lying and that their alternative facts are lies.

There's no reason why Donald Trump's presidential inauguration wouldn't attract the largest audience, considering Trump's status as a wealthy, famous, well-respected businessman, and who he is, Donald J. Trump; a businessman who was fed-up with the demeanor that politics have taken over the cumulative of a couple decades (so was half the population, obviously; they voted him in), and how politicized the collective of the media, government, and politicians have made everything, decided 'not anymore', and that he would run for president to make a promise to bring change that he's already delivered upon. And as a bystander watching the country's decline for so many years, as well as being an expert in negotiation and many other business tactics; things that he's very well educated on, he knows exactly what he's doing, and how to do it, and how to get it done. His transparency of his activities is purposed to the effect to let America know that's he's determinedly getting shit done, at an astonishing rate, that is exceeding most of all of the previous administrations.

So guess what? The 'Trump Train' has left the station, and we, as a nation not divided upon itself, need to unite behind him and accept that he was elected as and is the President of the United States, just as we all did when Barack Obama was elected twice. "Not my president" my fucking ass. Protesters like that and people of the alt-left belief system (leftists), as well as the alt-left itself (which consists of the media's majority) are entirely detrimental to the alt-right's (conservative's) and Donald Trumps's cause to undertake a course of actions to improve America and our quality of life; ultimately to 'Make America Great Again', and what the controlled media reports on the Trump administration is taken without regard by Trump and his cabinet themselves, and they're going to do what they need to do to get desired the result anyway. All the while ferociously fighting the media, exposing them for the profoundly-biased and slanted sources that they are, and holding them accountable for every lie that they make. It's going to be a fun ride. Strap in, we face plenty of opposition at every turn. ;)

Once again, TK, I'm not going to persist to argue a fact that a clear basis of understanding and comprehension, as well common-sense, is required to be able to contend and demonstrate those fundamentals and concepts in the first place, because that would be foolish on my part, as well as a waste of time on both of ours.


This is actually a wonderful example of what I'm talking about. What you're engaged in right now is pretty much exactly the kind of thing Trump and his supporters have been doing ever since he started running. You are presenting something real in a misleading way.

Your screenshot doesn't show the section of the Washington Post that this article is under: Opinion. It's quite clearly stated on their web site, however, that that's what it is.

Now, you may want to point out that the Post doesn't publish pro-Trump opinion pieces. You're absolutely right about that. And in that regard it's correct to argue that they have something of a liberal bias - though it is worth pointing out that many extremely conservative organizations are adamantly against Donald Trump as well. But what you are ignoring is that they're placing a clear dividing line between facts and opinions.

There are plenty of reasons to argue that Donald Trump is a fascist. He has both stated a desire to, and engaged in actions that are absolutely standard for fascists, including silencing people and media that say things he doesn't like, human rights violations such as torture, and banning people from the country based on their religion. Just to name a few, but that is by no means exhaustive. Now you can argue that you think these things are justified - but you can't argue that they aren't tactics extremely characteristic of fascists.

The fact that the article was published under opinion is irrelevant because their opinion is just as good as their fact which is bullshit. :smrt: (lazy reply, maybe a real one later, but I won't make any promises)

George, I get that you're incredibly passionate regarding the way things are being handled, but at the end of the day, there are simply some things we can't deny. Yes, it's true that he's being incredibly true to his words (the only thing I would give credit for), but there's clearly no thinking regarding what might be the long term effects. Hell, with the way things are going so quickly, what the hell will he do after every promise is commited to? It seems that is all he had in mind, so it'll be a pretty rough time having Trump with nothing to say for the next four years. Plus, the reason the media is so keen to be negative about Trump is because there's too much of it that's actually ocurring. I doubt it'd be there if previous history and the many bizarre moments were absent. Lastly, he's way too egocentric in a way that at least Obama and Clinton weren't blatantly so. Like, him deleting posts regarding the attendance of the inauguration is fucking pathetic. I could write more, but I'm really damn tired and sick right now.

I'm incredibly grateful to living in a state like California, who'll ensure that any potential damage done will not affect us. Hell, it's entirely possible that I will no longer be American in the next four years, just a pure Californian. Because as it stands, I leave this flame worthy statement: Trump is probably the most ambitious man since Hitler, and in an age like this, that's saying a hell of a lot.

As long as it doesn't threaten my family, I'll never take those words back.