Since the old one is off the front page and was long and convoluted anyway. My anticipation for this game grows every day.

Who are you expecting to play the most, at least at first? I'm not assuming anything before I've had a chance to try everybody but the characters I think I'm most likely to spend a lot of time with:

Wolf
Dedede
Falco
Kirby
Lucario
Metaknight

From what I've seen I have a feeling Wolf is going to be my favorite character by far. He seems to be the closest in some ways to Melee Falco, who was easily my favorite in that game.

Characters I know for a fact I definitely will not ever play as, ever, as long as the earth turns:

Sonic
Snake
Sonic the Hedgehog
Yoshi
Ice Climbers
Game & Watch
Diddy Kong
Sonic

I hate Sonic. Everyone who hates Sonic, say so. If you don't hate Sonic and you say so I will beat you with Wolf when the game comes out. The first thing I am likely to do after unlocking Wolf is go into training, set the CPU to Sonic, and beat him up a lot. I am thinking Wolf may actually smash him so hard, he will be thrown out of the game.

Also, I don't know how many people here read Penny Arcade, they really aren't very funny these days. The funniest thing they've done in a good long while is insinuate that Pikachu was a really good character in Melee.

I'm just as excited about it as anyone. I'll probably finish paying off my pre-order Friday.

Anyway, I usually spend time getting familiar with all the characters in these games and there's no reason to think I'll do otherwise this time, even if I do find some of the characters a bit lacking.

I'm honestly fairly indifferent to Sonic, TK, although I can't see myself using him often. Snake looks like a huge pile of lame though. I imagine I'll do to him what you plan on doing to Sonic.

The characters I'll probably use most are:

Jigglypuff
Ice Climbers
Samus
Pit
Captain Olimar
Lucario
Luigi

I get really annoyed with clone characters, so I probably won't use any of the Starfox characters often. The same goes for Ganondorf and Lucas.

Am I the only person who just can't understand why Mewtwo would get the axe? It was never one of my favorite characters, but at least it had a unique moveset.

My guess is it was to make room for Lucario. Or maybe he was just such a mess nobody felt like trying to fix him.

Also, not sure if you know yet, but Wolf is very very de-cloned. He is vaguely similar to Fox but his moves are quite different, including his normals. He still has the blaster, reflector, and similar up B, but pretty much all his other moves do totally different stuff. His F and Dsmashes, in particular, are different from, and vastly superior to Fox's or Falco's.

Also: I will beat you up with Wolf when the game comes out.

Everything I've read about Wolf says he has exactly the same moveset, just slower and more powerful. Of course, I haven't been hands-on with it yet, so I'm not going to make claims.

Also: I will make Wolf my bitch.

Pokemon trainer looks like he could be pretty awesome




IF IN THE RIGHT HANDS :o

Everything I've read about Wolf says he has exactly the same moveset, just slower and more powerful. Of course, I haven't been hands-on with it yet, so I'm not going to make claims.

Also: I will make Wolf my bitch.

I know, that's what was said at first, but it's been proven untrue both by <a href=http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=142433>reports from people who have the Japanese version of the game</a> as well as <a href=http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=139967>oodles of video footage</a>. Pretty awesome stuff. Also, "slower and more powerful" is pretty misleading; it makes it sound like he falls into the Bowser/Dedede realm of things whereas in fact he is quite fast.

I already have this game pre-ordered and I'm just waiting for my girlfriend to come back home and bring the frickin' Wii. (She's away for medical reasons if you're curious)

Characters I will use the most:

Sonic
Metaknight
Pit
Lucario
Falco
Toon Link

I'll probably end up using all the characters at least twice, since they all offer a different flavor. I have to say though, looking at Snake's brawl footage, he seems like a bitch to master. I'll gladly post my friend code when I get the chance so I can run circles around you with Sonic. =P

God it is only 2 weeks away. As for the characters I will play it all depends. For the original SSB I played Pikachu and was pretty damn good with him. Once melee came out I played Marth and Link as my main characters. I haven't quite decided who my main character will be for Brawl but I have been looking at the Pokemon Trainer and that sounds like a blast.

The ones that look the most amusing to play are:

Poke Trainer
Link
Ike (if he is similar to Marth)

From what I've seen I have a feeling Sonic is going to be my favorite character by far. He seems to be the closest in some ways to Melee Doctor Mario, who was easily my favorite in that game.

Characters I know for a fact I definitely will not ever play as, ever, as long as the earth turns:

Wolf
Snake
Wolf the Wolf
Yoshi
Ice Climbers
Game & Watch
Diddy Kong
Wolf

I hate Wolf. Everyone who hates Wolf, say so. If you don't hate Wolf and you say so I will beat you with Sonic when the game comes out. The first thing I am likely to do after unlocking Sonic is go into training, set the CPU to Wolf, and beat him up a lot. I am thinking Sonic may actually smash him so hard, he will be thrown out of the game.

Also, I don't know how many people here read Garfield, they really aren't very funny these days. The funniest thing they've done in a good long while is insinuate that Snoopy was a really good character in Peanuts.

hahaha, Gara I was going to say something about how I would beat you up with Wolf, but your last paragraph made me laugh too hard.

http://www.youtube.com/v/kBpCXNnqD6A&rel=1

Garaman, Garaman, does whatever a Gara can.

I preordered at a gamestop (screw you, it's the closest gaming store to me at only a 10 minute walk), so I'm looking forward to the tournament/midnight release. I think I might have somewhat of a shot of winning the tournament, and supposedly the winner gets their copy for free so that's pretty cool. I couldn't care less about the regional/national parts of the competition though because I have no time for those and I will lose at them. :p

For the tournament, I'm trying to decide if I want to be a dick and spam down smash and stuff with Pikachu (since it's apparently the new Peach down smash?) or pick up new characters and try my luck. I'm leaning towards the latter, since it probably won't be filled with total noobs who are more likely to have trouble with a down-smash strategy, but we'll see I GUESS.
The newcomers I'm looking at for that are Dedede, Ike, Pokemon Trainer, Meta Knight, and Diddy... probalby leaning towards the last two since the seem the easier ones to pick up. But Dedede's chainthrow seems like good stuff. I'm assuming the tournament won't have the final roster unlocked, of course...


ON TO THE ACTUAL GAME

I'll probably use the following characters regularly:

Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Link
Gannondorf
Zelda and Sheik
Toon Link
Lucario
Jigglypuff
Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer (all 3)
Pikmin&Olimar
Snake
Sonic
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Kirby
Yoshi
Wario
Game and Watch
ROB
Falco
Fox
Wolf
Ice Climbers
Samus and Zero Suit Samus
Pit
Captain Falcon
Marth
Ike
Ness
Lucas

Actually that's just a smartass way of saying I'll play Random 99% of the time but I thought it'd be funnier that way but looking back it really wasn't worth the effort oh well.

In melee I randomed all the time and my best characters were Marth, Gannondorf, Ice Climbers, Luigi, Sheik, Doctor Mario, and Pikachu... and like everyone except Mewtwo and maybe Zelda and lately Bowser are right up there as second best.

D:


I don't like Sonic all that much but I think he's a good addition to the game.
I hate Snake, though. I mean as a character he's alright but there are least 100 better 3rd party characters to add over him and I definitley don't think he should've been included. :/

Does anyone else notice that Dedede's laugh at the end of his final smash sounds eerily like Kefka's?

Just a thought...

I was thinking I might stop by for the Gamestop tourney as well. I won't be at all surprised if there are people around here much better at the game than me, but I might get lucky and be in an area without any really hardcore players (and if I do, I'd probably find it fun to lose to them anyway, provided they aren't snobs). I was never very good as I never had the drive to study the advanced techniques in Melee, but since a lot of them don't exist in Brawl I might have a shot at it. I'm not sure who I'd use though. My main in Melee was Falco, and my second best was Marth, so if Marth isn't unlocked for the tourney I'll be rather out of luck for anything very familiar (Falco's pretty different).

But yeah, I'm not really worried about it anyway since I would not have any interest in going on to the later rounds. It would be a big waste of time and money since I'd have no shot at winning.

Not enough activity in the discussion here you guys. >=O There are videos everywhere!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84ZB-0Wj2BY

One of my favorite Wolf fights that's been put up. Really shows off his strengths, and notice the supurb edge guard into edge hog that the Wolf player pulls halfway through the match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm2AUUCeAIc

This match shows off how insane Dedede is. Fantastic edge guarding, tons of power, some of the best recovery in the game with a character who's already hard to KO, and longass chain throws. People are already screaming top tier for him. I think the developer has to have messed up on this one, there's no way they intended to make him that good.

<a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqfcA3a5fPo>On the other hand, this video with the same Dedede shows he's vulnerable and also how frickin annoying Captain Olimar is going to be.</a>

Also, <a href=http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=139061>this thread</a> at Smashboards is the most awesome thing ever made about Dedede or really anything else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRoL-_kk0uk

I recommend this Kirby video by Omnigamer & subscribing to see the next few also.

Not enough activity in the discussion here you guys. >=O There are videos everywhere!

That's why no one is discussing, they are all watching videos.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84ZB-0Wj2BY

One of my favorite Wolf fights that's been put up. Really shows off his strengths, and notice the supurb edge guard into edge hog that the Wolf player pulls halfway through the match.

As nice as that Wolf player was, didn't help that the Ike player blew ass. Move he uses 95% of that video is his forward smash.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm2AUUCeAIc

This match shows off how insane Dedede is. Fantastic edge guarding, tons of power, some of the best recovery in the game with a character who's already hard to KO, and longass chain throws. People are already screaming top tier for him. I think the developer has to have messed up on this one, there's no way they intended to make him that good.

<a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqfcA3a5fPo>On the other hand, this video with the same Dedede shows he's vulnerable and also how frickin annoying Captain Olimar is going to be.</a>

Dedede has decent recovey, but it's not the best. I've seen some videos where he struggles to get his lard ass back on the stage. I'm also finally glad to see a decent Olimar player.



Also, <a href=http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=139061>this thread</a> at Smashboards is the most awesome thing ever made about Dedede or really anything else.

I opted not to view... >.>



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRoL-_kk0uk

I recommend this Kirby video by Omnigamer & subscribing to see the next few also.

Very nice instructional, I kinda don't like his "new character a week" method, but whatevs.

==

I'd link to some crazy videos I've seen, but I can't because the PS3 browser sucks.

...plus the chances are high that you've seen it already.

For TK:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bT7zsYGLW1k

:P

Anyway, I haven't got a Wii, yet. I am seriously tempted to buy one in the near future though.

As nice as that Wolf player was, didn't help that the Ike player blew ass. Move he uses 95% of that video is his forward smash.

He's not a bad player really, he had some pretty good moments especially when he was smacking Wolf while getting back on the ledge. Ike is just a really bad matchup for Wolf, he has a really hard time approaching. That's why he was doing so much fair and fsmash.

But yeah, it's definitely one sided and I only like it because it shows off Wolf when he's shining.


Dedede has decent recovey, but it's not the best. I've seen some videos where he struggles to get his lard ass back on the stage. I'm also finally glad to see a decent Olimar player.

Well yes, it is indeed possible to KO King Dededede, so he will sometimes struggle to get back on the stage. But whose recovery is better? I can only think of a couple, like Pit, but Pit is easier to KO than Dedede. He easily in the top when it comes to hard to KO.


For TK:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bT7zsYGLW1k

Haha, yeah, I've seen this. It is still pretty roffle even after repeat viewings though.

If you guys haven't heard, Sears is supposedly selling Brawl early http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=147652

I called their online store and they said no, but who knows? I think it's worth checking out though. I plan to call the ones around me and I might go try to get a copy early Saturday or Sunday (the only days I can make it out to Sears when they open), if tha'ts at all possible.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IlWv3L8DZts&feature=related

ok, this is funny.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IlWv3L8DZts&feature=related

ok, this is funny.
No it isn't.

As for which characters I'll play, I'm not really sure yet. Playing Random seems like a good choice though since most characters in Brawl look like a bunch of fun.

He's not a bad player really, he had some pretty good moments especially when he was smacking Wolf while getting back on the ledge. Ike is just a really bad matchup for Wolf, he has a really hard time approaching. That's why he was doing so much fair and fsmash.

But yeah, it's definitely one sided and I only like it because it shows off Wolf when he's shining.

I don't know, I've seen Ike take on fast characters, just gotta use the right moves. =P

You sir, are biased!



Well yes, it is indeed possible to KO King Dededede, so he will sometimes struggle to get back on the stage. But whose recovery is better? I can only think of a couple, like Pit, but Pit is easier to KO than Dedede. He easily in the top when it comes to hard to KO.

Sonic's recovery is actually damn good. When played right he has an extra jump back to the stage. Plus his uB is frickin awesome since he can attack after.

Snake's uB is horrible, imo. Half the time I see it used he gets caught under the stage. ;_;

Other character's recoveries seem to be average when combining their secondary jump and uB distance.

I won't disagree with you about Dedede being one of the hardest to KO, hell he was made that way. That heavy fuck...

The trick with Dedede I've seen is knock him to the side and down, his inflate jump doesn't get too much height and his uB looks like a bitch to DI (much like Ike's actually...)

That's my take on random recoveries. >.>

It's not about fast. I'm not even sure what you mean by fast because Wolf is definitely fast when it comes to the speed his attacks come out but he is not especially fast when it comes to his dashing speed. The main reason why Ike is a bad matchup against him is, as I said, Ike has a terrible time trying to approach him. Watch the video again and notice Wolf's distance game, especially with his Fsmash and his lasers. If Ike tries to approach, Wolf can laser spam him and threaten to Fsmash while he is still completely out of range of any of Ike's attacks.

Wolf is definitely a contender for top tier, but so is Ike, and neither of them are clear-cut cases. There are a lot of contenders for top tier right now. I don't think Wolf is godly by any means, he's got his fair share of weaknesses. But it is agreed by pretty much everyone who is playing the game right now that Ike is a bad matchup against Wolf. It doesn't really mean anything about Wolf's overall status.

I dunno, Wolf always seem to have slow execution with his moves from my point of view.

I'll tell you who IS top tier... Sonic! Fuck yeah.

Edit: I watched the video again, twice. I also watched other fights between them to see if the Ike player just had a bad run. My view still stands that the Ike player sucks. Look up the Wolf and Ike battle with Zjiin and Daddy and there's a better fight.

(I'd put the link, but as stated before... PS3 browser sucks.)

WOLF,......., yeah baby, I'm going to start training with zelda & samus first though. most if not all gamestops will be opening early at midnight after the eighth of march.

I`m sticking with Game and Watch, I used him in melee. I'll most likely give Sonic a go as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuesnIp0VY

ahahahaha the voice acting is so bad. It sounds like they got the actors who did Star Ocean 2.

Metaknight sounds fucking badass, though. More badass than Mewtwo in melee (Japanese voice), if you can believe that.

Also, apparently there is no Japanese language in the US version. This sucks. :(

i'm going to forget about the stupid tourney gamestop is hosting , cause the grand prize amount is chump change, and you win a wii! ooooo wow

and since i'm an employee i can't enter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuesnIp0VY

ahahahaha the voice acting is so bad. It sounds like they got the actors who did Star Ocean 2.

Metaknight sounds fucking badass, though. More badass than Mewtwo in melee (Japanese voice), if you can believe that.

Also, apparently there is no Japanese language in the US version. This sucks. :(

Haha, that is pretty bad. I agree that Meta Knight sounds awesome though.

I am going to miss Falco's "EESAN KAPEE!" =/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuesnIp0VY

ahahahaha the voice acting is so bad. It sounds like they got the actors who did Star Ocean 2.

Metaknight sounds fucking badass, though. More badass than Mewtwo in melee (Japanese voice), if you can believe that.

Also, apparently there is no Japanese language in the US version. This sucks. :(

Holy crap I died a little inside... Pit sounds like a girl, Falco sounds like he hails from Brooklyn, Fox was just... no, and MetaKnight sounds kind of like James Earl Jones XD

They all sound ok I guess (except Pit). Metaknight sounds like a mixture of Darth Vader and James Earl Jones. Falco and Fox sound very similar to how they did in Assault.

Metaknight sounds like a mixture of Darth Vader and James Earl Jones.

Uh, you do realize James Earl Jones is Darth Vader, right? O_o

He sounds very similiar to the cartoon.

He's spanish I guess.

just a few more days fellas, at long last no more damn delays; in fact right after me birthday even,.... at midnight!


wonder if they will beef up the ai intelligence?

Uh, you do realize James Earl Jones is Darth Vader, right? O_o

I know, I mean the voice is somewhere between James Earl Jones' normal voice and the Darth Vader voice.

lucario better not play as mewtwo did in melee; and some freakin retard better not say somthing stupid like look at the footage, cause that just isn't enough

lucario better not play as mewtwo did in melee; and some freakin retard better not say somthing stupid like look at the footage, cause that just isn't enough

Yes it is enough. Mewtwo and Lucario have one move in common and it isn't even that similar - Lucario's Aura Sphere seems miles better than Shadow Ball was.
The rest of their movesets are completley different and if you looked at any gameplay footage of Lucario you would see that.

I don't know where this idea that Lucario and Mewtwo are clones came from.


and my bad Vaati, I can see what you're saying.

lucario better not play as mewtwo did in melee; and some freakin retard better not say somthing stupid like look at the footage, cause that just isn't enough

If footage isn't enough (which it really should be more than enough), look on the Dojo assclown. Lucario has been on there for a few days.

i never knew Sylvester Stallone did the voice acting for falco...

i never knew Sylvester Stallone did the voice acting for falco...

O_O really?

I cant wait to see olimar in action lol

O_O really?

I cant wait to see olimar in action lol

lol nah i was just being sarcastic. sounds like him though

lol nah i was just being sarcastic. sounds like him though

LMAO yeah I wonder if wolf will sound like arnold Schwartzanegger, it be funny to hear them scream at each other.

GET TO THE CHOPPA!

haha

No Falco its NOT A TOOOMAHH! (tumor?) lol

Snake: Eat this!
[launches stinger missle at falco]
Falco:wlaght[what]
wolf:GET DOWWWN!
{kicks falco off platform by accident}
wolf:NOOOHOHOOO!

iv'e heard from unreliable sources that dedede's final smash is one of the most powerful

iv'e heard from unreliable sources that dedede's final smash is one of the most powerful

I saw it and It looked pretty DEDEDEE to me, I think Mario has the strongest,or Gannondorf...sheesh or Ike they all are pretty strong.

I saw it and It looked pretty DEDEDEE to me, I think Mario has the strongest,or Gannondorf...sheesh or Ike they all are pretty strong. except olimars

I vote your opinion be stricken from the record as it is filled with utter idiocy.

Olimer's isn't strong?

It's pretty damn good actually!

I vote your opinion be stricken from the record as it is filled with utter idiocy.

Its not that strong, its just alot of waddle dees.
but hey.

Olimer's isn't strong?

It's pretty damn good actually!

I like olimars, I ment Dededees is kinda weak for someone of his magnitude, I guess im just being too blunt.:-( :-(

It'd be better if the gordos didn't miss 99% of the tme.

It'd be better if the gordos didn't miss 99% of the tme.

whats gordos?

they all are pretty strong. except olimars


I like olimars, I ment Dededees is kinda weak for someone of his magnitude, I guess I'm just being too blunt.

Anyone else see the contradiction?

Also Dedede's is pretty fricken strong, granted it doesn't instant KO, but it sets them up for death.

Also also, don't double post.

Anyone else see the contradiction?

Also Dedede's is pretty fricken strong, granted it doesn't instant KO, but it sets them up for death.

Also also, don't double post.

sorry

whats gordos?

Those spiked balls Dedede throws during his smash.

well it should have a higher hit percentage when theres three other people, in a hectic battle someone should get spiked

Dedede's Final Smash is actually ideal for 4-player brawls.

Swami who do you plan to play with the most?

I already have this game pre-ordered and I'm just waiting for my girlfriend to come back home and bring the frickin' Wii. (She's away for medical reasons if you're curious)

Characters I will use the most:

Sonic
Metaknight
Pit
Lucario
Falco
Toon Link

I'll probably end up using all the characters at least twice, since they all offer a different flavor. I have to say though, looking at Snake's brawl footage, he seems like a bitch to master. I'll gladly post my friend code when I get the chance so I can run circles around you with Sonic. =P

i will probably use sonic a lot, unless he really sucks.

Neither Dedede nor Olimar is weak at all. They are both very dangerous characters.

The only FS I think is really weak at this point is Peach's. Everyone elses seems quite usable.

I hope you don't live too far from me, TK. It would be a shame if lag prevented us from thrashing each other.

The only FS I think is really weak at this point is Peach's. Everyone elses seems quite usable.

The only time I can see Peach's FS being awesome is in Team Matches or the Mushroomy Kingdom level.

Other than that, weaksauce.

I hope you don't live too far from me, TK. It would be a shame if lag prevented us from thrashing each other.

Yeah honestly I completely forget where you are going to college. I am in eastern PA though so I hope it is somewhere near the east coast.


The only FS I think is really weak at this point is Peach's. Everyone elses seems quite usable.

I haven't actually seen it because I don't care about the character, but I keep hearing that DK's is really awful. Confirm/Deny?

I haven't actually seen it because I don't care about the character, but I keep hearing that DK's is really awful. Confirm/Deny?

As far as I know it's decent at best. I'm just guessing all those people who think it's awful have no rhythm or don't know that they have to hit buttons in time with the final smash.


Peach's could also be okay if you have items turned on and get a home run bat... it seems it's definitley the most situational FS since you don't want to use it unless you have pretty high damage.

snake does look very hard to master but if you can use sonic or kirby effectively im sure you'll have him pegged in no time.
Hows Olimar looking to you?

and about peaches smash I think it will backfire often even on team matches, since anyone can eat them and they are everywhere

anybody play with her often anyway?

Diddy's is pretty tricky to control by the looks of things. People seem to end up flying under the level and find it difficult to recover. DK's is pretty good if you catch your opponents close by. Peach's makes your opponents quite vunerable so it's usefull enough.

All in all, no ones final smash seems to suck hard, aslong as you know the best way to use them.

and about peaches smash I think it will backfire often even on team matches, since anyone can eat them and they are everywhere

Eh?? Her FS puts enemies to sleep so you each take one and smash them off then eat the peaches.

Eh?? Her FS puts enemies to sleep so you each take one and smash them off then eat the peaches.

dammit I hate youtube's game demonstrations.

WTF are you talking about??

WTF are you talking about??

youtube is the only place ive seen peaches FS but they didnt knock the opponet off the platform when they dozed off.
its misleading

Yeah, because they show what it does, not what you can do while the effects are in place. I always that part was common sense.

Yeah honestly I completely forget where you are going to college. I am in eastern PA though so I hope it is somewhere near the easst coast.

I live in the southern/central part of the country. =(

Maybe it won't be too bad. I've read about people playing each other from coast to coast with minimal lag, so, we'll see.

Kubirio, as long as you're both in the US there shouldn't be a problem. International on the other hand, might have some lagging issues.

And I just realized I had a "1337" amount of posts before I fucked it up with this one. :sad:

I <3 Sonic. I like Snake.
Why are they in Brawl?

Maybe they flipped a coin?

I <3 Sonic. I like Snake.
Why are they in Brawl?


$, �, � and €.

whoa! just four more days until the release

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=149341

the first few videos are unremarkable, but the Kirby ones are pretty awesome, if only to see Kirby kicking some ass. He definitely seems to be improved since Melee, which is a huge relief to me. He's one of my favorite characters and I hated how nerfed he was in that game. Final smashes are some stupid bullshit though. I definitely don't support them in serious competition.

I also highly recommend <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqOQJTse9EE>this</a> friendly battle with the same Kirby user solely to see the closeness of the match, and the awesome finishing KO.

Fuck... I just spent near 3 hours browsing that forum.

Goddamnit all!

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=149341

the first few videos are unremarkable, but the Kirby ones are pretty awesome, if only to see Kirby kicking some ass. He definitely seems to be improved since Melee, which is a huge relief to me. He's one of my favorite characters and I hated how nerfed he was in that game. Final smashes are some stupid bullshit though. I definitely don't support them in serious competition.

I also highly recommend <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqOQJTse9EE>this</a> friendly battle with the same Kirby user solely to see the closeness of the match, and the awesome finishing KO.

thats great news for kirby. even though i played well with him on melee, alot of people considered him a joke character; because he did seem watered down. now lets hope that the cpu ai doesn't play stupid with him and give him A BAD name ......again. BUT ON ANOTHER NOTE gamestops will be offering brawl at a price of 9.99 with the trade in of two select wii games;
ONLY $9.99 i am going to trade in metroid and dbz!!!!!

I'm pretty sure people didn't regard Kirby in Melee as a joke character because he was poorly controlled by the AI.

you hit it on the nail right on in your first post about the kirbster and as far as what you said about the final smashes, i couldn't agree more (ignorance is still bliss though)

P.s.- wolf's face is intimidating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZDgjjDnWLM

Pikaman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZDgjjDnWLM

Pikaman.

The peach with sonic swap from the third video is far scarier ().

Hahahahahaha.

can anybody give me an assesment on how the music is in the game?

Why not look up the songs on Youtube? There's about 150 of them at least.

The Final Destination theme in this game is brilliant. Some other ones I'm pretty fond of are: Song of Storms/Ganondorf/Serenade of water medley, Ashley's Theme (EN), Star Wolf theme and Team Galactic fight. Good thing the Fountain of Dreams music is still in.

Anyone here going to be attending the GameStop tournament tomorrow night?

Apprently, despite being advertised as a tourney location on the website, my gamestop ISN'T having a tournament... so no. ; ;

Aren't there multiple gamestops in driving distance for you? There are like 4 in my area.

I'm not going because a couple of great bands are playing the El Bar tomorrow night and I have a responsibility to great rock and roll to go see it in action whenever possible.

Aren't there multiple gamestops in driving distance for you? There are like 4 in my area.

Yeah, but I don't have a car and this one is like a 5 minute walk from me (it's on campus) and is also the one I preordered at, so I wouldn't want to have to leave the other location to get back here at midnight to pick it up.

I just discovered that my own local gamestops (of which there are 7) are not involved in the midnight release or tournament. The nearest one that is happens to be 75 miles away. No Brawl for me until morning.

Well at least you get to own it on release day, Prak.

I gotta wait at least 2 weeks for my gf to get back home with the Wii. :(

I think all of my local gamestops are having a midnight release.
The ones across the street from one another are.
They are across the street because one is in a mall and was EB Games and now is Gamestop.
Circuit City was giving $10 gift cards with the purchase for pre-orders.

SWEET
my gamestop IS having a tournament after all. I guess they lied to me for a week beforehand? Or didn't know?
But whatever, it's on tonight.

I'm probably going to use Meta Knight, but honestly I think I'm just excited to play no matter what happens.

I retract my statement, my friend is letting me use his Wii! HAHAHA!

Wii code to be posted in about... 10-12 hours.

JUST THREE and a half hours left can you people believe it?
Remember: gamestops will be offering brawl at a price of 9.99 with the trade in of two select wii games;
ONLY $9.99!!!!!

I picked up a copy at the local wal-mart about ten minutes after midnight. My streak of not preordering games continues. My friend code is 4038-5662-6582 in case anyone is up and ready for a match. That code is also for you, TK, so that we may thrash each other as soon as possible.

Don't you talk to ME about Smash Bros.~

okay, now that that's outta the way, enjoy yourselves e'erybody :)

I am insanely jealous.

All the characters appear on my character screen but they all suck compared to Sonic the Hedgehog I played a hundred 1 stock matches with Sonic against Wolf and Wolf died every single time.

I just finished unlocking every character about 15 minutes ago.

Um.. yeah.
My friend code is 0344-8976-5815; I'll add it to my sig soon but I gotta do homework now cause literally all day I've played subspace. D:

I picked up a copy at the local wal-mart about ten minutes after midnight. My streak of not preordering games continues. My friend code is 4038-5662-6582 in case anyone is up and ready for a match. That code is also for you, TK, so that we may thrash each other as soon as possible.

I'm unlocking everything first, haven't even found out my code yet. Soon, though. Soon.

Workin' on Wolf atm.

I'm up working on a paper now because I spent most of the night playing matches against my roommate.

I've gotten used to the new feel of this one, although I initially didn't like it, being a melee whore. I wasn't really happy with the disappearance of wave dashing or l-cancelling, but they made some other additions that I think counterbalance these (perfect shielding [think parrying from SF:3S] and the ability to shield mid-run primarily). I'm not sure how I think about the buffering system that makes you turn around when you land if you pushed back in mid-air. It's not hard to compensate for it once you know it's there and it does give you the ability to land facing either way now, but the previous system felt more natural (this is keeping in mind that the best explanation offered for this change was to compensate for lag online). I know i've seen people dash dance, but I can't do it for the life of me. Oh, and tripping sucks. On the whole though, the additional characters, items, and sheer amount of content make this game pretty addicting in a soul-crushing way.

Wattson: I posted my friend code a little earlier in the thread if you want to play some time.

TK: I'm a little behind on unlocking characters, I think. I've only unlocked Captain Falcon (sadly not as good), Marth, and Ness. My girlfriend is visiting her mom this week and I have less work so, I should be caught up soon.

Alright so I've unlocked everyone except Toon Link (I think that's the last one I need to get)

Ironically enough I unlocked Wolf with Sonic.

1289-7871-7517

Wattson: I posted my friend code a little earlier in the thread if you want to play some time.


Fo' sho'.

I think your reactions to the game are pretty much the same as mine. The big thing I miss is dash jump cancelling, since I learned it about 2 weeks ago in melee and it became a big part of my gameplay. Oh well.

I managed to dashdance as squirtle today. It required going about 4 times as fast as dashdancing in melee, but I went for a good 5-10 seconds without tripping at all. Not very practical though and it really is uncomfortable to shake that control stick back and forth so fast.

Oh yeah, and perfect shielding was in melee; it was harder to do but a successful one against a projectile (items etc.) reflected it. Level 9 CPUs in that game had inhuman timing and could do it all the fucking time, though.

I'm starting to really like how easy it is to grab items in this game. I grabbed a pokeball thrown at me while I was in the air today and thought that was pretty dang sweet - even better than reflecting it to steal the pokemon like you could in melee.

Yup, I got mines yesterday morning. :D I'm playing online right now but the connection is a little laggy, OK for some games it's a lot laggy, this'll totally prevent me from using my full skill. :( That brings up a question: does anyone know how to fight 1 vs 1 battles with anyone instead of the usual 4 player matches?

Oh yeah, and perfect shielding was in melee; it was harder to do but a successful one against a projectile (items etc.) reflected it. Level 9 CPUs in that game had inhuman timing and could do it all the fucking time, though.


You're thinking of power-shielding (at the right time), I think. Perfect shielding is when you shield right before an attack (this is most useful against physical attacks). Your shield turns blue and it makes a different noise if i'm not mistaken. When done correctly, this basically takes away what little lag time is left from shielding and the knockback. For example, if i'm smash attacked and I shield it normally, I'll be pushed back from the hit-stun. If, however, I perfect-shield, i'll be able to drop the shield and attack almost instantly before the opponet has recovered from the move's lag-time.

I could be wrong, but this is what I read at the dojo. I've also seen videos of people doing it. If this particular technique was in melee, i've never come across it. =/

I was lucky enough to pick the game up on friday afternoon. I beat subspace emissary saturday afternoon, and unlocked the 2 remaining characters (jigglypuff, and wolf) sunday along with all the stages. I love the game! I not completley sold on the the subspace emissary. It was a nice attempt but IMO has some of the worse character designs.

So far I've been using Samus. I beat the game on easy just to run through it. Very fun game. I also played with Pit who's a good character. I'll give more of a review later since I'm going to urgant care by my Dr.'s office to check to see if my ankle is broken.

best game i've played in a long time!!!!!!
i put it on the hardest dificulty, and got raped and owned! wonder if anybody else did? also wonder if tk unlocked wolf yet, and gave him a test drive

p.s flatzone on melee sounds better than the new theme

I'm up working on a paper now because I spent most of the night playing matches against my roommate.

I've gotten used to the new feel of this one, although I initially didn't like it, being a melee whore. I wasn't really happy with the disappearance of wave dashing or l-cancelling, but they made some other additions that I think counterbalance these (perfect shielding [think parrying from SF:3S] and the ability to shield mid-run primarily). I'm not sure how I think about the buffering system that makes you turn around when you land if you pushed back in mid-air. It's not hard to compensate for it once you know it's there and it does give you the ability to land facing either way now, but the previous system felt more natural (this is keeping in mind that the best explanation offered for this change was to compensate for lag online). I know i've seen people dash dance, but I can't do it for the life of me. Oh, and tripping sucks. On the whole though, the additional characters, items, and sheer amount of content make this game pretty addicting in a soul-crushing way.

Wattson: I posted my friend code a little earlier in the thread if you want to play some time.

TK: I'm a little behind on unlocking characters, I think. I've only unlocked Captain Falcon (sadly not as good), Marth, and Ness. My girlfriend is visiting her mom this week and I have less work so, I should be caught up soon.

In general I dislike techniques that require as much technical precision as wave dashing and l-cancelling. It's not that I'm not willing to put the time in to learn them if I really want to, it's just that it's a pain in the ass and I'd prefer that time practicing the game was spent on strategies and stuff. But more than that, my favorite thing about Smash is how it is so simple and yet so deep, and I think the fewer insane techniques there are to learn, the more that is the case. So yeah, I'm pretty happy that they are gone to be honest. I might try to seriously compete at this game if I think I can get good enough and it will be nice not to have to bother with those.

My brother and I literally played subspace emissary all night last night. That thing is a pain in the effing ass. I mean, it is awesome, but I really wish that there were quicker ways to unlock stuff. And the maze at the end is INFURIATING. Oh well. The important thing is that I finally unlocked Wolf, so now I can play as him, and so far I'm really liking him. I'm still adjusting to his terrible 3rd jump, but his smashes and aerials are just killer, and I love the fact that his laser can inflict melee damage as well as ranged. Plus his howl is just the coolest thing ever.

My secondary is supposed to be King Dedede but I need a lot of practice with him. He's just such a different play style for me it feels really awkward. He is just too cool not to use though. Right now I'm still better with Kirby, who I am liking a lot. They took away all the things that sucked about him in Melee and gave him some of his advantages back, like a good forward smash.

Anyway right now I am taking a quick break before going back into the fray. My brothers and I have all done nothing but play this game since we got it so I still haven't even had a chance to find out my code but I'll post it as soon as I get a moment. It will be fun to play you guys. I have no idea how good I am since I only ever play my brothers. I'm pretty sure Kubie and Wattson will both trounce me!

the cpu has steped up its game! i'm getting my arse kicked

Is anyone else getting disconnected from the WFC multiple times?

Dunno, I haven't tried it. I'll find out soon enough I guess!

FC: 2835 9806 8373

If anybody wants to play tonight, I'm in chat, or send me a PM if you don't want to show up in chat I guess. Prefer with no items on but whateva.

I thought Pit was gonna be cool. I thought wrong. His controls make me mad.

Pretty good game so far though considering I've had it for about 3 hours

this game sucks compared to nba 2k8 imo

3136 6233 9453
isuckatthegame

Anywho, here's mine. 0860-2954-4951

Zero Suit Samus is amazing.

FC is 4038-5662-6582, for those that missed it. I'll be adding everyone.

Can you expound on the Zero Suit Samus love? I have not yet heard anyone claim that she is amazing so I am quite curious. (I haven't spent any time with her yet myself.)

I just got disconnected from the network. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/nine_fenrir/robot%20faces/16x16_robot-mad.gif

Oh, and everyone on this 5 page, I've added.

The network has been disconnecting me all day long, it was working yesterday morning and I was destroying people left and right with Ike, his Final Smash is so satisfying to preform btw.

Oh and nobody answered my previous question: is there a way to play 1-vs-1 one battles against anyone? Also: can the time be adjusted or is it always locked at 2 minutes?

Can you expound on the Zero Suit Samus love? I have not yet heard anyone claim that she is amazing so I am quite curious. (I haven't spent any time with her yet myself.)


Keep in mind I don't have every character yet, but so far she seems the most mobile to me. Good areials, good tilts, her down and side smash compliment one another, and her over-b packs a punch. She is the closest thing in this game to what Sheik was in melee, for me at least. I've also noticed that she does well against King DDD, which seems promising.

Nice matches last night btw. The last few were really enjoyable once the lag seemed to diminish to a pretty-playable level. I think the game can record matches for two or three minutes. I wish I had recorded the Pit/ROB match. The Snake/Wolf battle was also pretty sexy. I'll be online a lot this week if you, or anyone else in here for that matter, want to play.

also: can I decrease the lag by speeding up my connection? if so, how would I go about doing that, buying a new wireless router or whatever? should I put a lock or password on it so people nearby can't leech? would leeching cause the lag to be worse for me than it otherwise would be on my connection? I just want to maximize the experience because i'll be spending an absurd amount of time playing it.

Kubi, I definitely recommend encrypting your wireless. Of course, if anyone's really determined to leech from you, they will break it, but the average Joe would just look for another open network or give up. More drain on your connection will, of course, translate into lag, so securing it should be a high priority.

I should be able to start playing online tonight (no damn houseguests to get in the way for once), so I've copied all the friend codes listed in this thread. I'll get mine and post it once I get home from work.

I'm having a lot of fun with the game so far, but I haven't made near as much progress in unlocking things as I would have liked, mainly because there's always been someone around to get in my way. I still need Game & Watch, ROB, Jigglypuff, Wolf, and Toon Link.

My favorite characters aren't shaping up quite like I expected. I expected to use Meta Knight quite a bit, but I like Pit a lot more. Zelda, Diddy Kong, Olimar, Pit, and Yoshi seem to be my best characters to date. I only suck with a few of them: Dedede, Marth, and Ike. It annoys me quite a bit, I must say, that I'm not half bad with Snake, who is the one character I wanted to avoid spending time with, but TK will be happy to know that I have opted to neglect Sonic completely.

also: can I decrease the lag by speeding up my connection? if so, how would I go about doing that, buying a new wireless router or whatever? should I put a lock or password on it so people nearby can't leech? would leeching cause the lag to be worse for me than it otherwise would be on my connection? I just want to maximize the experience because i'll be spending an absurd amount of time playing it.

I think I read somewhere (smash boards?) that the Wii's internet usage for brawl is insanely low, like 2-3 KB/s. So to lower lag, it doesn't really matter what internet connection you have... But someone leeching off your connection definitley puts a strain on it, torrenting while playing puts a strain on it, having the wii be a far distance from the wireless router puts a strain on it...
I don't know much about wireless routers but I don't really see how having a new one could help?
I'm using the nintendo wifi usb connector myself, and since I installed it here saturday the wii has connected amazingly fast to the internet, but I haven't gotten a chance to try out any wifi matches in Brawl yet so I can't claim to
know anything. I might be on a lot today, we'll have to see though.

Oh, and if you were wondering, to save a replay you hit "Z" (if you're using gamecube controller) int he results screen. It shows two buttons on the bottom of each character's list of stats - the left is record replay and the right is your A equivalent... if that helps you find it.

@TK
Zamus is just incredibley fluid to use. She's up there as one of my favorite newcomers. Like, Squirtle is definitley my best at this point, but she's in the top 4ish. Her juggling ability and air control are definitley high up there, and she is fairly strong on the ground too. Her speed is amazing, and she's got the range on some of her moves that Marth wishes he still had. Her only real downsides that I can see are that some of her moves are a little weird/seem weak, and how she has a terrible final smash, both because the move itself sucks and that it makes her Samus, who seems really bad this game to me.

Also, I'd just like to say that I don't think wavedashing was all that hard to get down in melee. SHFFLing was nearly impossible for me since I can barely short hop to save my life, but I got wavedashing down after practicing it for a little while. Once you learn it, it just becomes second nature to do, and it really doesn't seem that technically challenging to me. Moot point now, but thought I'd throw that out there. The only characters I used wavedashing regularly with were Ice Climbers and Luigi, though - it certainly isn't an end all be all skill, and I certainly have lost while doing it to friends who don't.



OH yeah, I beat all 41 solo events on hard yesterday, except for the elektroplankton one, which I beat on easy since it wasn't an interesting challenge and it doesn't even seem beatable on hard. :/

from what I can see you get no control over the random wi-fi battles at all. It is a shame.

Kubirio and I played last night and at first the lag made it almost unplayable, but after a while the connection seemed to stabilize and we managed to get some smooth battles in. So yeah, if anyone's getting lag I recommend waiting it out for a few matches to see if it improves.

Kubie: I agree on the matches! Those ones you listed were definitely the best. I got a lot more interested in playing ROB after that.

After playing Kubirio as Zamus I can see what people mean about her. The distance she gets was really messing up my defense, as she was often able to jump in safely. A big part of my Wolf strategy is trying to control distance with Wolf's great ranged game so that people can't effectively approach, and other characters with good range make this much more difficult, so I will have to try to learn some new strategies against her. I also experienced this to some degree with Snake. I was winning that battle at first and then Kubirio turned it around by using grenades to shoot over Wolf's lasers while just out of range. That was really intense, I think we were both getting towards 200% by the time it finally ended (I lost).

Wattson, do you know if there is some way to transfer captured replays to an avi or something? That would be really kickass. I was planning on recording matches after I get my video camera fixed but directly recording the match and saving it to my PC would be so much better.

And yeah, you are basically right about wave dashing. I could do it about 50% of the time and I never rigorously practiced it, so I'm sure if I had it would have become second nature without that much trouble. Really it's just that I think it contributes to overly complicating the game. I find simplicity to be more elegent.

Shuffling, though... I could not have done that to save my life, and I was really relieved when I heard it wasn't in Brawl and I wouldn't have to learn. That is more a case of me not wanting to put the time in.

Woo! I got everyone! (Damn that took forever...)

Anywho I'll be adding everyone who posted their Brawl FC here, mine is 1289 7871 7517 if you missed it.

TK you can save replays to an SD card, if that helps? Transfer it to PC and use a format conversion software.

edit: I also found that the reason for the many disconnects are the Nintendo servers are bogged down by the massive influx of players, so, expect to be kicked off every now and then.

edit: I also found that the reason for the many disconnects are the Nintendo servers are bogged down by the massive influx of players, so, expect to be kicked off every now and then.

That's kinda what I figured. I've been disconnected a few times last night and it bugged me, but I figured it would pan out soon.

I tried playing some wifi and it just won't work. :( Spectate mode does though ?_?

I'm not sure there's a way to convert replays to .avi YET. Someone cracked the screenshot files and they can be converted to .jpeg now, so I think it's only a matter of time until replays and possibly even stage and other data is cracked as well.

If anyone wants to play against me then send me a PM, I should be on it tonight if I don't have any unexpected guests over. I've gotten used to using Ike with the yellow costume so that's probably who I'm going stick with for most of the brawls. "Prepare yourself".

Btw I don't mind 4 player brawls or anything like that but I prefer to play 1 vs 1 with items turned off (maybe with the exception of the Smash Ball).

Once again I can play tonight. I'm in chat so let me know in there or IM me on AIM at Mosrite Mecha.

Also, I have hardly used the Wii before this game came out so I'm a bit out of the loop but basically does it take any regular SD card or do you have to have an official Nintendo one? I would assume if it's SD it would take any but Nintendo can be kinda fascist about stuff sometimes. Also does anyone know how large the file size tends to be for movies you've captured? Like, if they were at say, 5 minutes?

I need to go blow off some steam or something. I've just spent the last 20 minutes (maybe longer, I might actually be under-exaggerating) trying to join a brawl with Swami (I think). I keep getting disconnection errors.

Everybody is having problems connecting right now. I looked up the error code and it's probably just the servers being down or overloaded. Give it a few hours and it should hopefully fix itself.

It's been like this since launch. Sometimes you get a game, but it's rare compared to the time you spend searching.

FC battles seem to be laggy as all fuck right now too.

marvin i named you PS3 and it didn't change when like man it better not be what you really chose

i added everybody anybody who i didn't i will if you tell me my password thingie is above i am no good at the game really maybe like level 3 maybe then you want to win i will battle see who wins you probably

It's been like this since launch. Sometimes you get a game, but it's rare compared to the time you spend searching.

FC battles seem to be laggy as all fuck right now too.

It was the first time I ever had a problem with it. It's somewhat understandable at any rate considering the game just come out and everybody is trying to hop on at once.

tk you no added me yet

Toon Link is the most broken obnoxious little piece of shit ever and I want to KILL HIM.

Really? I haven't unlocked him yet, due to not having a lot of time to focus on it. How is he broken?

LOL, TK just have problems with his short size. Toon Link is great!

He has 3 projectiles, all of which are completely spammable. His smashes and tilts have tremendous range and KO power, especially his fmash which can KO Wolf on final destination at barely over 100%. His aerials also have good range and power and his spike is by FAR the best one in the game, it sends him down at lightning speed and he actually bounces off an opponent he spikes, allowing him to easily return to the stage. He even bounces off you if you shield this move and lands with no lag, so there is no risk for him to abuse the hell out of it. On top of all this he is not a particularly light character and has decent recovery. I can't think of any other character for whom it is so easy to rack up damage, but can also KO at such low %s. He is difficult to approach because his normals have such great range and sweeping coverage, but also cannot be camped out against since be beats almost everyone when it comes to projectiles.

Even a reflector does nothing against him. He can simply camp out and shoot at you and let his shield (the one he holds) stop everything you reflect back, and he also has the ability to throw bombs directly in front of you instead of onto you, in which case the explosion will still hit you and go right through your reflector.

It's definitely not me either, a lot of people are complaining about him on smashboards.

Well, that blows. There always seems to be something to shatter the balance.

On the other hand, I don't want to make it sound too insane. There are some people who are of the opinion that TL isn't really broken and people are just overreacting and that may well be the case. The way this game is played is going to change tremendously and many of the characters people thought were the best in Melee when it first came out (Roy is a great example) later turned out to be vastly overshadowed by others they had written off to some extent (Falco and Peach are great examples of this). It also could be that Wolf is a bad matchup against him and other characters have a lot less trouble, though one person in my Wolf vs. TL thread on smashboards said something like, "don't worry, every character has trouble with TL, not just Wolf."

So I dunno, time will tell. But for now my hatred has been directed mostly away from Sonic to this little buttfuck.

tk don't worry i don't like sonic i am going to main toon link now he is awesome my favorite character series ever wind waker fo' life

I wish wolf wouldn't yell out "RAUL" every time he up smashes but it's been a good course of lols so that's cool BEANS. Also I discovered against a friend tonight that apparently wolf can chainthrow just as well as dedede can, which is also pretty sweet.

The more I play the less I'm sure of who my main is. :'(

I'm finding Sonic and Snake both a lot more fun than they seemed they would be. Squirtle and Metaknight are pretty up there as my best two, though... but Dedede is sweet when I can use him right. I think I'd probalby have to include Marth on that list it's just I never use him because I used him too much in melee.

Does anyone know if the Elektroplankton event is even passable on hard? I've done it on normal just fine, but I really can't see it doable on hard, and it annoys me since I've now done every other solo event and every double event on hard difficulty.

wattson my friend code is 3136 6233 9453

I don't THINK Wolf has a true chain throw, but maybe you have discovered something previously unknown! I assume this is with his downthrow?

I don't THINK Wolf has a true chain throw, but maybe you have discovered something previously unknown! I assume this is with his downthrow?

yeah, downthrow -> dashgrab -> downthrow -> dashgrab etc etc
just like dedede's

and just like dedede's it doesn't always work if your opponent tech's properly or rolls out of the way... or maybe I'm just too slow with both of them.

BUT
Wolf definitley seems to have the potential to chain throw, and it has worked in most of the (admittedly few) times I've tried it.


edit: with further messing around today I'm not sure it's good enough to even call a chainthrow. It works on opponents who are dedede-slow or are sheeps and don't know how to play, but the other 95% of the time it just doesn't cut it (or if it does work, you get hit in between each throw - not sure how that example ended up working, it was weird, but it happened).
Oh well!

so far ike has been pissing me off especially when my bro picks him ( he's already at 200 ko's) sonic's been getting under his skin though so it serves him right for annoying me with ike. suprisingly i'm good with yoshi. ive beaten the event battle on the hard difficulty. they made that BITCH mario fast and huge, and you have to face snake and sonic. if it wasn't for marth and his precious counter, i'd still be stuck on those pieces of shit!!!!!

the olimar mission on event battle is a pain in the ASSS! too you'll really enjoy it. then there's getting whooped by minions on the intense difficulty of subspace maze. i'd like to see you sorry pieces of shit out there beat up on tabuu on that difficulty!!!!

Beating Ike: use someone with a spammable projectile and use that to give him a difficult time approaching you. This will make it easy to predict his attacks and either shield grab them or dodge them and hit back. As much as possible you want to take advantage of his lagginess: he is one of the easiest characters in the game to punish for mistakes.

My brother also plays Ike sometimes, and he absolutely cannot even begin to touch my Wolf with him because I use this strategy.

He gives me quite a battle when he uses Metaknight though. Metaknight is a super huge pain to fight. That tornado move is infuriating.

good advice tk; which reminds me there is an event battlle where you pick ike against two diddy kongs. and all they do is evade your moves, until a giant dk comes out of nowhere and tries to kill you; thats why i hate diddy!!!!!!!!!! i also hate it when the cpu gets caught in ikes final smash sometimes

Prak: Where is your FC?

TK: I tried Wolf at a local brawl get-together and really liked him more than Fox or Falco. His blaster is annoying, and he has great range with his f-smash. I'd like to put my Ike against your Wolf some time.

I played some three-player matches with Garamond and Marvin a few nights ago with little to no lag. That was really fun. My internet was down yesterday, and I missed my online tourney. =(

Anyways, i've got nothing else.

I'd like to put my Ike against your Wolf some time.

Even after I already slaughtered it once before? :P

I am totally down for this though, we should play some more anyway. And yeah Wolf is really killer and tons of fun to play. Right now my hardest matchups with him are against Metaknight and Olimar, other than that I have a solid strategy for everybody.

TK my Ike is awesome

(ly bad)

man I want to play you guys on wifi

Hello. I apologize for interrupting. Does anyone know where to get the project altered beast full ost to download? I've searched everywhere and kingdom hearts insider and galbadia hotel only have the stage music, but doesn't have any of the boss music or beast music.

Hello. I apologize for interrupting. Does anyone know where to get the project altered beast full ost to download? I've searched everywhere and kingdom hearts insider and galbadia hotel only have the stage music, but doesn't have any of the boss music or beast music.

did you try searching the music forums here? this thread isnt for music.

Ill try n help you out though.

Thanks Laughing-Raven. I wouldn't know where to start. Theres so many pages, and i don't know if it will be there.

Thanks Laughing-Raven. I wouldn't know where to start. Theres so many pages, and i don't know if it will be there.

ok now theres a thred for it buddy, Im sure Ive seen that OST Floating around so Ill keep looking.

just check that thred I just put up every now and then ok?

Thanks. I appreciate your time and help.

Wattson my friend code find it i can play you later if you don't want a challenge

Hello. I apologize for interrupting. Does anyone know where to get the project altered beast full ost to download? I've searched everywhere and kingdom hearts insider and galbadia hotel only have the stage music, but doesn't have any of the boss music or beast music.


rotfl

i played today i win as jigglypuff so i am okay i was like final smash then i win lol

I will get my code up sooooooooooooooon.

I owe Gara a loss.

Kubi, I keep meaning to post my code, but I never think about it because my Wii and my computer are in different rooms, and if I'm not looking at both of them, it doesn't cross my mind. I'll remember it eventually though.

I beat it on hard ^___^

4553-9781-4197, if you want to kick my arse. Imma n00b to this, remember :p

I have my entire challenge board unlocked now... that is, there are no blue spaces left.

There's still a few left to do, but I think it's utter bullshit I can't golden hammer the "Boss Battle mode on Intense" option. :'(

someone play me, I can't find anyone to play on wifiwars.

tk sorry my wii is with nintendo right now

Just try the Intense difficulty and spend 5 hours trying to beat that GD Master Hand

No, that is boring.

but oh so challenging.
to beat a game you have to go through every situation.

tk it won't take you 5 hours

maybe twenty minutes most

intense maybe you use like two three continues shouldn't be many more maybe none if you are pro like um pro

but oh so challenging.
to beat a game you have to go through every situation.

That's a pretty pathetic attitude. If you do every boring thing you can in a game just because you're anal retentive or something, you're defeating the entire purpose of gaming.

Most of us play games for fun, not because we're obsessed with "beating" a game according to the standards of people that we regard as loons.

not to say im that anal. I just like to try every scenario and see which one i get the most out of.

Alrighty so... TK, I want to challenge you. I see you talk a lot of smack with Wolf, but can you stand up to my Dedede? =P

Also, none of you fucks are ever on. I know this because I am on almost all the time.

Also also, Prak, FC, now. Stop forgetting.

sunday the computer that was hosting my wifi connection for my wii died and then I went to reno and just got back so I'll hopefully have it working again soon. :/

I'm getting fairly close to finishing all the challenges. Still have Boss Battle on hard-intense left, and have to do Classic, All Star, and most target smashes as every character, so that's a significant amount left... but besides boss battle nothing is really challenging. It sucks, though - we did All Star with every character and got every final smash trophy, but we did it co-op, so now I have through it all over again solo. Maybe I'll... maybe I'l use a hammer on that one...

Nintendo still has my Wii guys. I will probably have a new friend code (i am guessing)

So doing challenges co-op doesn't count?

Btw the "Get trophies for every character" is a bitch, because you have to beat Classic 3 tims with PKMN-T, 2 for Samus and 2 for Zelda.

SSE is sooooooooooooooo boring. I'm at 50% and it seems like it's been forever.

I'm sick of being tossed around like a rag doll, even when my damage isn't high.

BLECH.

Use your stickers, Kneg. Launch resistance is hella useful.

Also you should do it first time on easy, just to get a feel for it.

Stickers?

Yeah, at the map screen hit the cancel button (depends on your control scheme) to where you can choose "Save" "Back to Map" "Quit" and "Stickers". Select "Stickers" and on the bottom right you will see which character is currently selected and you can scroll through the various ones who have joined your team. After selecting your character, on the right hand side of the screen would be your list of stickers and on the bottom shows what the stickers effect does. It's like a customisation feature.

Also http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea12.html

OIC. Imma Smash n00b :p

Thanks!

1289-7871-7517

Added you if you're up for a match sometime

Alrighty so... TK, I want to challenge you. I see you talk a lot of smack with Wolf, but can you stand up to my Dedede? =P

Also, none of you fucks are ever on. I know this because I am on almost all the time.

Also also, Prak, FC, now. Stop forgetting.

I am on... now! Hey, I go to school full time. I wish I could just play Smash all the time. =(

I'll gladly accept your challenge. Note however I do not claim to be great at this game. Any smack I talk with Wolf is my fanhood and my belief in his power as a character, not my own abilities with him! But anyway, we should arrange a time or something.

EDIT: hilariously, I found you on right after posting this.

Alrighty so... TK, I want to challenge you. I see you talk a lot of smack with Wolf, but can you stand up to my Dedede? =P

Also, none of you freaks are ever on. I know this because I am on almost all the time.

Also also, Prak, FC, now. Stop forgetting.

Those were some nice matches, TK. JFTR the first three where I competely sucked didn't count as I was on the phone with my g/f. Lame excuses aside you play a pretty decent Wolf, much better than others I've seen. I think you should incorporate his dash A more into your strategy. It's great for starting combos. Also use his side B to get near your opponent since actually getting the right conditions to knee him is only by chance. Plus they see the move and they usually dodge, which gives you time to recover from the lag the move generates.

I must admit though, I did laugh quite hard when I beat you with Sonic, I imagined you must have ben annoyed.

Not really. My hatred for sonic is largely a superficial thing. You closed that match with a pretty supurb edgeguard and I was more pleased to see such a thing in motion.

Sorry, I totally disagree about that side B move. I think if you've found it effective for getting near your opponent you've just been playing people who aren't familiar enough with Wolf or can't play. It is way too laggy and very unsafe for just about anything but recovering in my opinion.

And no girlfriend phone excuses. :P

I'll admit the lag can be a bit of a killer for moves like that. What really gets me the most is when I play Wolf, I'll get slapped off the edge but I had pressed A when I'm still on the level. When that happens the lag causes me to do a neutral air which usually ends up in a bullshit point for whoever knocked me off.

My favorite part about basic brawls is I can kick so much ass with Dedede, Wolf, or Sonic that after 2 or 3 consecutive matches, the other three opponents will ignore one another and only come after me. Noobs is funny. ^_^

My favorite part about basic brawls is I can kick so much ass with Dedede, Wolf, or Sonic that after 2 or 3 consecutive matches, the other three opponents will ignore one another and only come after me. Noobs is funny. ^_^


Thank for telling me that. Now I know who to go after now online.=)

My friend sent me this video and I just can't stop watching it for some reason. The tune is catchy as hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs6GYBPNrrU

funny yet creapy at the same time.

I won't be able to play until Wed., maybe. I'm at my parents right now and they have dial-up so I didn't bother bringing the wii with me.

Today I was playing against Shigeru Miyamoto, Masahiro Sakurai and Yuji Naka. Shigeru had the early lead but I managed to pull off an upset victory with Geno and then everybody was like man too bad Square-Enix didn't let us use him in the real game. I agreed and we all had a nice laugh.

Wait, you have geno? what version of smash are you playing?

HAHA

Wait, you have geno? what version of smash are you playing?

lol @ this dumbass

Wait, you have geno? what version of smash are you playing?

PAL version.

Lol see i didn't know that. That's messed up...

LoL, I'd challenge Kneg or Gara, but I'm so pathetic at the game that I shouldn't even be allowed a Friend Code. Kinda like Strikers, really, lulz. Anyway, to make my post at least not completely useless, am I the only person that actually likes Snake? Just to prove just how much of a n00b I am, I also like both Samuses, Zelda and Sheik, and Link.

Cyan, what's your FC? We should set up a match sometime!

I enjoy Snake, but only to mess around with, TBH. He's great character for funnys (setting claymores on opponents, for instance)

You can't be worse than me, Cyan. And, HEY, Link is my main, mang.

Cleared SSE. Loved the Great Maze, best part of it, imho. I've been trying to down Jigglypuff :sad:

So doing challenges co-op doesn't count?

Btw the "Get trophies for every character" is a bitch, because you have to beat Classic 3 tims with PKMN-T, 2 for Samus and 2 for Zelda.

Some challenges work co-op, such as "CLEAR X MODE ON X DIFFICULTY."
Ones like "DO X WITH EVERY CHARACTER" or "DO X WITH X CHARACTERS" do not count co-op. D:

I finally beat Boss Battle on Very Hard today and FINALLY!!!! learned how to dodge the the RROD attack from Tabuu. Intense is wayyyy harder than very hard, though... in Very Hard the pre-Tabuu bosses are all cakewalks, and in Intense only the hands, petey, and sometimes Rayquaza are. Duon and Galleom are about a million times harder on intense than they are on very hard. ;(

cyancyde have opponent play ivysaur throw him off then edgeguard you will win

!!!

Got Jiggly, Toon Link, and Wolf (so that's like all characters and stages unlocked).

Cleared Classic on Intense with Toon Link. I think I'll play him just as much as Link.

I'm done now, except like you know Brawling with other poeple :p

I finally beat Boss Battle on Very Hard today and FINALLY!!!! learned how to dodge the the RROD attack from Tabuu.

lol I knew how to do that after he killed one character. :P Grats on the completion, personally I'm too fucking lazy to do that and I doubt the prizes are worth it.

Does anyone know where to find the Corneria music?

@Kneg: Have you gotten the 75m level? It's so awesome.

Cyan, what's your FC? We should set up a match sometime!

I'll post my FC this evening; the wifey and kid are watching Fifi and the Flowertots atm. :D


You can't be worse than me, Cyan. And, HEY, Link is my main, mang.

LoL, I'm about to prove I'm worse than you, bro.


cyancyde have opponent play ivysaur throw him off then edgeguard you will win

!!!

I don't even know what edgeguarding is. Seriously. Brawl's my first Smash Bros. I've only played the original Smash like, once. So, yeah. Lots of things the "rest of you" take for granted are totally new to me, lulz.

I've Had Brawl since it came out in the US and no online friends to brawl with so i'd be happy accept any FC from any of you. As far as charaters go offline it's either Ike or Link but online it Fox.

Cyan, I've never even played the original, so you have a very slim leg up on me. I'm pretty okay against the CPU, but like against humans, it is rather pathetic.

Definitely get the code up, we shall see where we stand.

I pretty much unlocked everything for this game already. I have all of the characters, all of the stages, all of the music, thanks to an effective CD Factory that I created, and all modes. All that's left for me now are some trophies and some stickers.

Playing online is fun, at least for a little while, then the lag starts to set in and the countless dropped connection. I consider myself to be fairly decent with Ike, sometimes winning an online 2 minute brawl with a +7 score and not a single Smash Ball used, maybe that's nothing fancy at all. Well anyway, time to get those last few trophies. :)

spear pillar is one of my favorite stages

lol I knew how to do that after he killed one character. :P Grats on the completion, personally I'm too fucking lazy to do that and I doubt the prizes are worth it.

Does anyone know where to find the Corneria music?


Well I mean I knew how to dodge it for a long time, but I never figured out the timing until I sat down and practiced against Tabuu once yesterday (took a couple of deaths though). Nowhere near as hard as it might seem, but in boss battle it's annoying as hell to fight through the first 9 and make one tiny mistake against Tabuu and then you have to go through it all over again.

Corneria is just a random CD.

I wish I had more than one wavebird to make an effective cd factory. I have a similar stage designed for getting cds/stickers but it is just absurdly bad.

Cyan, I've never even played the original, so you have a very slim leg up on me. I'm pretty okay against the CPU, but like against humans, it is rather pathetic.

Definitely get the code up, we shall see where we stand.

I'm fair enough against computers set on 3 and 4, I suppose. Anyway, my FC's 2105-8563-8817. I'll most likely be on more often on the weekends, but I may be able to sneak on for a couple brawls during the week.

Also, I <3 Zero Suit Samus. She's fast, has some fun attacks, a cool tether recovery-thing, plus that body-suit thing is t3h hawtness, lulz.

edit: BTW, I wasn't kidding about that edgeguard thing. I really don't know what it is. Maybe I'll try and look it up somewhere.

You grab the ledge when you knock them off.

Since Ivysaur only has a tether recover, as long as your grabbing the ledge and Ivysaur is below the stage he's dead.

Because.

!!!

must get 100% in the subspace emissary

Edge guarding is when you've gotten your opponent off the side of the stage, but they can still recover, so you jump out over the side and attack (usually with an aerial, but in some cases, like with Fox's reflector, specials can also be useful for this) to keep them off until they die. It is tricky and takes a lot of practice; you have to know your character's recovery very well so you will be sure that you don't jump out too far in pursuit of an enemy and kill yourself in the process. In learning to do it you will probably die a lot of humiliating deaths. It is very worthwhile though, because if someone does know how to do it and you don't, they already have a tremendous advantage over you.

Ah, ty, TK and Gara. I've done a bit of nosing around and found out a bit of things to try. I'd been edge-guarding quite a bit without even knowing what it was. Usually it wound up being some silly timed Smash shenanigans or an aerial attack, if my guy had good recovery moves, like Samus and Link. Now that I've a clue how to do things properly, I might be slightly (and I do mean slightly) better than a complete noob, roffle.

[QUOTE=TK;1025955]Edge guarding is when you've gotten your opponent off the side of the stage, but they can still recover, so you jump out over the side and attack (usually with an aerial, but in some cases, like with Fox's reflector, specials can also be useful for this) to keep them off until they die. It is tricky and takes a lot of practice; you have to know your character's recovery very well so you will be sure that you don't jump out too far in pursuit of an enemy and kill yourself in the process. In learning to do it you will probably die a lot of humiliating deaths. It is very worthwhile though, because if someone does know how to do it and you don't, they already have a tremendous advantage over you.[/QUOTE


and beware folks, cause the wolf can hunt the fox with an edge guarding dair spike just like falco!!!!!!!!

I wish I had more than one wavebird to make an effective cd factory. I have a similar stage designed for getting cds/stickers but it is just absurdly bad.

I wish that I could upload a picture of my CD Factory for you, it's super effective to the point where it's able to contain all of the bags and they're constantly being pounded, it flows like a dryer.

I prefer to use Yoshi for this becuase of the way he hits the bags and he always picks up everything. Using a turbo controlled and fastening the A button means you can go off and do something else without paying any attention to the game at all. ^_^

Oh, I didn't notice Garamond's post. Gara, I think you are referring to what is typically known as edge hogging. Hogging is when you hang on the edge to stop another person from doing so, because only one person can hang on a ledge at a time, so if the person can't get fully back onto the ledge they will fall to their doom.

tk i was like man you know i don't care really except then i hope you understand

I'll be adding you, Cyan.

1289-7871-7517

I wish that I could upload a picture of my CD Factory for you, it's super effective to the point where it's able to contain all of the bags and they're constantly being pounded, it flows like a dryer.

I prefer to use Yoshi for this becuase of the way he hits the bags and he always picks up everything. Using a turbo controlled and fastening the A button means you can go off and do something else without paying any attention to the game at all. ^_^

Nah, I know how to design one, but I lack the equipment (extra wavebirds and/or turbo controllers) to make it effective.

Instead I have a large tube with one square of fighting room and just have me (and as many friends who are willing to do it) and computers duke it out there with sandbags on high... usually fast brawl with high gravity. There are treadmills leading into the pit and there's like 3-4 fally blocks so it's very difficult to get out.

Usually we can get a cd every 5-10 minutes doing that method, but it's very boring and requires a lot of hitting A so it's not super effective.

Today I just got over 250 songs, though, so that leaves, what, 28ish or so?

hmm, intresting method. I'm gonna try something like that. I have a turbo controller so I can properly pull it off.

PAL version.

Hey, um nobody would have any proof that geno is in the pal version of brawl do they?

ROFL @ your idiocy

Geno is not in the game. You are being dicked around.

TK, I get to play with the big wigs at Nintendo like Masahiro Sakurai and Shigeru Miyamoto.

We invited Yuji Naka to join and were playing the original version before some of them rights to certain characters were you know.

Like Geno Shigeru was like "Masahiro, don't worry. Those cats at Square will do this for me."

But they had a Pokemon battle (Pokemon are real, but only a few people have them, and only in Japan). Yōichi Wada won so no Geno in the game.

They wanted to put in Dr. Mario but Yuji Naka insisted that they didn't, because he felt Sonic wouldn't stand a chance against two Marios but would be quite the match for just one.

So to my great dismay, my roommate asked for his Wii back. I was borrowing it until my girlfriend came back with ours. What really pisses me off is he said, and I quote, "Dude, I don't care how long you borrow it, just take care of it." Yeah he's allowed to change his mind, but he said this TWO days ago...

I also know for a fact he rarely touches his Wii. Maybe I'm just venting, but anyway the main point I'm trying to make is I won't be able to Brawl with anyone for a while. When I do get my Wii back though, I will have a different FC and Brawl FC, so we're going to have to do this whole exchange thing again.

I get my MGS Essentials Collection tomorrow, though, so I'll be tided over until my girlfriend comes home. I'm kinda sad though, I won't be able to Brawl TK for a while, and he was the only actual decent player I've faced.

I won't be able to Brawl TK for a while, and he was the only actual decent player I've faced.

Roffle, why did you add me when I've freely stated that I'm terrible at Brawl? Or did you wanna laugh at me, too? ;)

No laughing intended, seeing as you admittingly stated you weren't any good, I wanted to play for sheer enjoyment. You know, there's more to games than intense competition, especially Brawl. :)

Hey, um nobody would have any proof that geno is in the pal version of brawl do they?



oh my...

My friend code is

3136 6233 9453

in case anybody no see

Gara, how come you never played me back when I was on 24/7? :(

Anyone want to play against me right now?

My friend code is:

2964-8275-0367


You can catch me online Friday, Saturday, and Sunday afternoons.

If you're truly skilled, quote my reply and post your own friend code.


[Please keep it clean with the user names and comments, as stated above]

noskillbassist, have you gotten your Wii back yet? I'm just curious; I'm thinking about jumping on WFC and Brawling a bit.

Sadly, no.... I can always ask my g/f to buy me one, but I don't think that'd be too smart at the moment. :/

Bummer, bro. When's she coming back?

She's going to try and visit for my birthday next month. As for permanent it looks like late May/early June.

When she visits though, I'm demanding she bring the Wii back with her, so when it does happen I'll give you a heads up as well as an updated FC. :D

My friend code is

3136 6233 9453

in case anybody no see

You seem promising, Phoenix Wright, so I'm adding you to my list.

My number is listed above.

She's going to try and visit for my birthday next month. As for permanent it looks like late May/early June.

When she visits though, I'm demanding she bring the Wii back with her, so when it does happen I'll give you a heads up as well as an updated FC. :D

Alright, cool. I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully I won't be completely useless by then. ;)

My friend code is:

2964-8275-0367


You can catch me online Friday, Saturday, and Sunday afternoons.

If you're truly skilled, quote my reply and post your own friend code.


[Please keep it clean with the user names and comments, as stated above]

Well, I am pretty good and I love a challenge.
Here it is: 2878-9619-4289
I'll add you on Friday and also be playing on Friday.
I look foward to vs. everyone here.

Gara, how come you never played me back when I was on 24/7? :(

probably when my wii i sent to nintendo

I'm adding everybody here.

She's going to try and visit for my birthday next month. As for permanent it looks like late May/early June.

When she visits though, I'm demanding she bring the Wii back with her, so when it does happen I'll give you a heads up as well as an updated FC. :D

Great! Because of your location, I'll need to add you.

My Brawl code is above. (hint: scroll up a bit)