Which is better?
Online play, games, graphics, etc.

DS
b/c of pokemon

Good luck finding an unbiased opinion from someone who have actually compared the two for them self.
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Well yeah, but this is a new thread now ok!

Right out of the box, it comes to game prefernces - for most people, that's a win for the DS, though the PSP has some advantages when it comes to media and stuff.

Once you purchase additional things, a DS can literally do everything a PSP can except emulate PS1 games.

For me, DS all the way.

DS, mostly because its FF system. It also has some other games im interested in like Resident Evil.

Sega Genesis.

Sega Genesis.

Man that was the best.

Man that was the best.

The SNES was a billion zillion times better.

The Genesis had its gems, sure, but but the SNES had quality game after quality game, and is maybe my favorite console of all time.

Genesis vs SNES was basically what PSP vs DS is RIGHT NOW

I'd get a Genesis just for Moonwalker. I'd also get rid of all my other games and systems.

I had that game. I even watched the movie.

Once you purchase additional things, a DS can literally do everything a PSP can except emulate PS1 games.


DS can play music and videos?!? If someone had told me this I would never have got a PSP and would be able to play all the cool games DS has to offer!

EDIT: Can it really do that stuff? 'cause I haven't heard anything about it.

The SNES was a billion zillion times better.

The Genesis had its gems, sure, but but the SNES had quality game after quality game, and is maybe my favorite console of all time.

Genesis vs SNES was basically what PSP vs DS is RIGHT NOW

Wow so you are saying PSP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DS?

Amazing.

WHOEVER GETS SONIC AND KNUCKLES 3 WITH CHAOTIX AND THEN A MIX OF SONIC CD MAN THAT WOULD BE RADICAL

DS can play music and videos?!? If someone had told me this I would never have got a PSP and would be able to play all the cool games DS has to offer!

EDIT: Can it really do that stuff? 'cause I haven't heard anything about it.

Yes, it can.
However, it requires an addon that costs, depending on which one you get, from $35 or so to upwards of $90. So basically, with that addon it costs around as much as a PSP - with a PSP I believe you have to buy an additional UMD or whatever to store your media, same deal here - the different addons use Micro SD, SD, or Compact Flash cards.
I personally got the M3 Perfect Lite, which is one of the more expensive options. It fits flush in the GBA compartment of my DSL, takes MicroSD cards, and can play anything I throw at it, though videos require converting.

It definitley isn't as intuitive as getitng a PSP to do those things, I don't think, but if you do some research of your own you'll see it really isn't as intimidating as it sounds.

It's not a UMD you need for storing media, just the Memory stick duos. Right now the PSP entertainment pack comes with a 1 GB stick. I guess if you really want to compare the 2 right out of the box you can always check both of these sites out.

http://www.us.playstation.com/PSP/About
http://www.nintendo.com/overviewds

Hell, here's Wikipedia on both...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_portable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS

It's not a UMD you need for storing media, just the Memory stick duos. Right now the PSP entertainment pack comes with a 1 GB stick. I guess if you really want to compare the 2 right out of the box you can always check both of these sites out.

http://www.us.playstation.com/PSP/About
http://www.nintendo.com/overviewds

Okay, sorry, I didn't know. :)

I should also point out that with the gba slot things for the DS that allow it to play Music and Videos and whatnot, you can also use illegaly acquired ROMs of DS games, if pirating is your thing.

Also, pricing wise:
PSP : ~$200
PSP Entertainment Pack (1 movie, 1 game, 1 GB memorystick): ~$250

DSL : ~$130
DSL w/ M3 Perfect SD and 1gb microSD card: ~$240


I mean, it really comes down to preference in the end.

I just edited my last post with stuff from wikipedia which includes all the extra stuff the DS can do.

I just edited my last post with stuff from wikipedia which includes all the extra stuff the DS can do.

I find it funny that in the section of DS Homebrew it says very few commercial games are playable right now, when the truth is at least with the M3 only 7 games have issues at the moment: 1 is only a problem some people have, 4 of them have ways to fix the problem, 1 works but slowly, and 1 just doesn't work. The rest work perfectly.

I'm too lazy to edit wikipedia though.

I'm too lazy to edit wikipedia though.

lol. I'm just lazy in general.

edit:


Next Generation PSP

In the latest edition of PSM (PlayStation Magazine) says that Sony is set to release a second generation PSP in Japan by March 2007. Citing unnamed sources, the publication says that Sony has made a deal with Samsung to include 8GB of built-in NAND flash memory in the new PSP. The magazine also says that the new models with incorporate a built-in camera and that the PSP will allow users to stream live video to the PlayStation 3, according to an anonymous source. The feature, which will utilize the PSP's Wi-Fi support, will be marketed as the new way to chat with friends while on the go. It is said that the new version of the handheld will be thinner and lighter than the current version. PSM states that "From all indications, the next PSP will have the same graphic and sound capabilities of the current system."

Rumor. Even I don't believe that.

In my opinion, all these fights about the media uses on handheld consoles arent really neccesary. I would prefer to buy an iPod to listen music and watch videos over a DS or a PSP. MP3 players must be small and easy to use, and on this part none of the handheld consoles can be compared to mp3 players. Also the storage capabilities are just too limited.

If the PSP ever got a nice lineup of great games, and would drop in price again, I might consider buying it. But I'm perfectly happy with my DS Lite because it's got excellent titles. I prefer my DS more than anything right now.

In my opinion, all these fights about the media uses on hand held consoles aren't really necessary. I would prefer to buy an iPod to listen music and watch videos over a DS or a PSP. MP3 players must be small and easy to use, and on this part none of the hand held consoles can be compared to mp3 players. Also the storage capabilities are just too limited.

I use my PSP for everything except music. I have a Sony Ericsson W810i phone () that works as a perfect MP3 player with a 1GB memory stick. If I had an iPod I would totally use it for music too. I agree that MP3 players must be small and easy to use, the PSP is too big and bulky as an MP3 player, unless that was your only option, but it works just fine for everything else - I can't complain about the size. But I'm totally happy myself with the line up of games. But hey, some people like pepperoni pizza, others like combo. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a202/nine_fenrir/robot%20faces/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif

PSP


nuff said.

That's not enough said, and you look like a moron for saying it.

The DS. How the Dual-screens can interact with each other for games has been the predominate, appealing factor to me.

Lol ok you win, I have to say the graphics on PSP are amazing and the games are awesome GTA, Burnout, Ridge racer it's a amazing piece of technology, don't get me wrong DS is cool too but I made a choice and I choose PSP.


IS THAT NUFF SAID PUMPKIN?

If the PSP ever got a nice lineup of great games, and would drop in price again, I might consider buying it. But I'm perfectly happy with my DS Lite because it's got excellent titles. I prefer my DS more than anything right now.

Tales of the World : Radiant Mythology.

Tales of the World : Radiant Mythology.

C'mon, I think you're a swell person, but you still need to give Prof. more then just one game. One game is not a line up.

You mean something like this? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psp_games)

I think that listed enough games Joan.

I would've got the PSP instead but it cost $70 more and doesn't have Pokemon.

DS
PSP sucks

No questions about it, because it irritates my friend when i say that.

I like my DS. It makes Ethics class go faster ;)

I tried a friend's PSP a few months ago. It wasn't bad, but I wouldn't buy one. Also, the little joystick thingy killed my poor thumb.

You have a weak thumbs Jonny nemesis. I tried my cuz's DS a few days ago and I must say it is a impressive piece of technology but PSP slightly beats it.

You have a weak thumbs Jonny nemesis. I tried my cuz's DS a few days ago and I must say it is a impressive piece of technology but PSP slightly beats it.

My thumb could totally kick your thumb's ass.

I DECLARE A THUMB WAR!!!!!!!

I was tempted to get a psp until i saw the games. There was nothing the appealed to me.

Ive not really gotten many ds games either, ive not played nintendogs since i bought it and rayman ds is rather poor.
Still mariokart and new super mario bros are awesome.

And sonic rush was ok for a while (but isn't as good as everyone says)

I DECLARE A THUMB WAR!!!!!!!

TO ARMS! TO ARMS!......Oh, wait....uh, to thumbs?

OH IT'S ON NOW!!!!!

*Best Churchill impression* We shall fight them! On the knuckles, in the cuticles, on the nails!

HAIL HITLER!!!!!!

LOL!

My God...M~C~P has invaded Poland!

ONWARDS TO FRANCE!!!!

Ah, a worthy cause.

So....need any help stomping some frogs?

Shut the hell up.

Damn, anyways I think the PSP was the largest possible waste of $250. Seriously, I could've just saved another 150 and bought a 360 but no I just had to trust a handheld. Yet, I must admit the PSP graphics kill anyother handheld and even PS1/Early PS2 games. Still the only games I found fun at all on the PSP was GTA, and MGS. The games are not impressive so the DS DEFINITIELY wins with the Poke'Mon and Final Fantasy games.

DS.

PSP 4EVER!

Shut the hell up.



Uh, no?

Weee! Statistics =D

DS outsells psp 2 to 1 =D
or something like that

i own both now. i think that makes me the winner in this battle. :)

DS all the way.

Diszal Shizal

Just get a Sega Game Gear. That'll keep you happy.

Just get a Sega Game Gear. That'll keep you happy.

They need to make a Nights into Dreams sequel.

Personally, I'll side the DS. I have a DS. Sure it doesn't do media without the M3 or those crappy GameBoy Advance Video carts (I will admit I bought a GBA Video cart... But it was for the sake of science, I swear!). But then again, that's what my Zen Vision M is for (and it holds much more stuff than the biggest capacity SD cards that are currently in the market could ever hold). I'm also a touchscreen maniac, so the DS naturally appeals to me. Lastly, the DS actually have games I would play, and can play GBA games I would play (i.e. the Final Fantasy Advance series, Tetris DS, and some other stuff).

Ive got a GP2X too, but that hasn't really got much going for it yet.

I've got PokeMon LeafGreen and that does have much going for it.

Am I the only one who is completely anti-pokemon? srsly.

anti-pokemon is like anti-sex.

no way jose

POKEMON

GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL!

POKEMON!

POKEMON RULEZ! :cool:
GOOO PIKACHU, I CHOOSE YOU!

DS all the way. Personally, if I am going to get a handheld gaming system, it will be just that: a GAMING system. If I want to play mp3s or watch videos, I'll buy a Sanza or Ipod. If I want to surf the net, I'll use a computer. The point is, the DS was created for the express purpose of gaming. The PSP is a "jack of all trades, master of none" that, while I do like its stylish graphics, doesn't seem to be putting it's full potency in gaming. Not to mention, the DS is innovative, with touch screen and TWO screens. Although, admittedly, I am waiting to see graphically-shining RPGs like Monster Hunter: Freedom on the DS, rather than cartoony 2D stuff like Children of Mana (don't get me wrong, the CoM's gameplay rocks, and it is one of the best RPGs I have played, with awesome anime-style cutscenes and the like, but I think I speak for many when I say the graphics could have been ramped up to the DS's standards), we see that it was, again, built for gaming. Gaming done right.

As for Pokemon... while the show is gay like the San Francisco mayor, the game is like one of the best ideas conceived for an RPG. Capturing, leveling, and battling with crazy stuffed toys that would eat your little siblings' souls? Fun stuff. And with the Wi-fi compatible series coming out in April, it's all gonna get even better.

MAN DON'T BE A HOMOPHOBE

Oh boy, here we go again... I think I speak for many when I describe that show, you would be blind not to see it. Don't get all anal and liberal on me for fitting it with the proper description. Homophiliac.

MAN THAT SHOW WAS ABOUT THE LOVE OF BETWEEN A POKEMON TRAINER AND HIS POKEMON BECAUSE WE ALL THAT WHORE MISTY WAS HITTING ON ASH AND ASH WAS LIKE MAN I WOULD RATHER MAKE OUT WITH PIKACHU

Although, admittedly, I am waiting to see graphically-shining RPGs like Monster Hunter: Freedom on the DS, rather than cartoony 2D stuff like Children of Mana (don't get me wrong, the CoM's gameplay rocks, and it is one of the best RPGs I have played, with awesome anime-style cutscenes and the like, but I think I speak for many when I say the graphics could have been ramped up to the DS's standards), we see that it was, again, built for gaming. Gaming done right.

Ah, you'd like lunar knights then. Pure awesomeness.

Lunar Knights isn't very good imo. Then again, after a short time Children of Mana started sucking so I guess if you liked that you might like bad dungeon crawlers.

Heh. I meant about the anime influence. They game itself was pretty fun, but i hate django.

Ah, you'd like lunar knights then. Pure awesomeness.

Yeah, I have heard about that game... a branch off of the Boktai series, I believe. I may have to give it a try.

What I'd really like to see though is the next Phantasy Star Online... a dungeon hack with uber graphics and huge possibilities, and the ability to go on raids with your friends(which initially piqued my interest for CoM). Yes, something akin to CoM with more options (a better variety of weapons, armor, classes, and spells, anybody?), better graphics, and better playability value (no going through the same motions in the same rooms in the same dungeons all the time).

MAN THAT SHOW WAS ABOUT THE LOVE OF BETWEEN A POKEMON TRAINER AND HIS POKEMON BECAUSE WE ALL THAT WHORE MISTY WAS HITTING ON ASH AND ASH WAS LIKE MAN I WOULD RATHER MAKE OUT WITH PIKACHU

Oh dear... even worse, beastality...

Ok, it was mildly entertaining at first. I'll give it that. But then, and quickly mind you, it got lame. Very very lame. Even the Digimon series held my interest for longer (quite a bit longer at that).

YOU POJKEMON HATER DESERVE TO CHUBNKGJKFDITBJKLYTV09548t7409t43jtgklvhkjnlkn [coherent argument] [witty remark]

YOU POJKEMON HATER DESERVE TO CHUBNKGJKFDITBJKLYTV09548t7409t43jtgklvhkjnlkn [coherent argument] [witty remark]

lol... I believe I mentioned that the games are absolutely teh PWNage, it's just the show that's mediocre. The card game was pretty good for a long time, but then it became lackluster as well... with the exception of the e-card games, of course...

even the older movies were pretty Ok, but the show itself... blegh.

Well, apparently you can now listen to music, and watch movies, on the DS. So DS.

Heh, a psp fans rebuttle to that would be; "You could already do that on psp. On DS you have to go out and spend an extra $80 just to get the media player, psp comes built in."

But what these fools fail to realise, is the psp already costs $100 (or was it $200...) more (at least it did when my friend made that argument). Therefore you're still saving $20 (or $120 if psp is $200 more) for something with all the features of the psp.

PSP isn't $200 more. Nobody would buy it for $330 XD

It's about $120 more than the DS.

^I've got a PSP myself and if EB Games didn't give you shit all for trade in I'd get rid of it and get a DS.

Ok then, thanks for clearing that up.

THE DS IS REALLY JUST ONE BIG SCREEN IT IS A HOAX

REALLY

it's called the DS not because it's dual screen but because it's 大S or the Nintendo Dai Screen or BIG SCREEN.

Makes perfect sense.

I want my Pokemon Diamond now.

The only thing that really appeals to me about the PSP is the ability to emulate PS1 games. Other then that, I prefer the DS which I own one.

As to the whole music/video/game playing for it, its really cheap to do it nowadays. For about $180.00 (including the purchase of a DS of course) you can have all of that.

The M3 Simply goes for around $40.00, which lets you play DS backups, Homebrew apps, Music, Videos and whatever else it can support. You need a microSD card for it which can be found on many places for just $10-12 (1gb). 1gb can hold more than 20 DS games depending on the game file size.

it's called the DS not because it's dual screen but because it's 大S or the Nintendo Dai Screen or BIG SCREEN.

Hmmm... i'm not sure Dai can be used in that way... Don't you usually use Ookii to measure size? Isn't Dai just used to say... Big Success (Dai Seiko) or something... Ah well, whatever.

Hmmm... i'm not sure Dai can be used in that way... Don't you usually use Ookii to measure size? Isn't Dai just used to say... Big Success (Dai Seiko) or something... Ah well, whatever.

It was a joke.

I know, I know.
I didn't meant to ruin your joke or anything.
Just wondering, thought you might know fluent Japanese or something and could tell me whether i was correct or not.

the DIZZAL SHIZZAL

chinese is easier to learn than japanese i am proof of that

of course the reason it is easier is because my mom's chinese but still i learned nothing from 4 years of japanese

except i can ready most pokemon names if they are in katakana and stuff like that

so far I am finding chinese easier to learn but I mean those years of studying japanese helped me I think I'm learning both right now and Japanese is harder it's probably because I'm way more advanced in japanese than chinese

I HAD A BAD TEACHER FOR JAPANESE

but also when you consider that i know all the vocab i'm usually assigned in chinese class along and all the grammar points in that i know in the sense that if you asked me before maybe i can't point them out but you say here here it is i say man that is like okay so it would be obvious that chinese should be easier for me to learn

Still, I didn't learn much of anything in four years of Japanese. I might try to pick it up against sometime in the future, but I probably won't since I really don't care all too much. Reading hiragana/katana and a few characters is good enough for me.

@3 Musketeers: Yep, you were right, Dai can also be used for Big (as in size).

PSP Me and my brother both each have our own PSP for our selfs. I have lots of roms and some anime episodes and music videos and pictures on it. ^_^"

Pah, psp is for noobs.
DS = 1337
(Don't try understand my reasoning behind that)

I would buy a DS over a PSP for the games, but I would buy a PSP over a DS for emulators

Heh, that's true, the emulators for other consoles on psp work better than DS. (So far the super nes emulator can't save on the DS)

DS 4tw =D

The DS has a wider selection of quality titles.

Hmm... i dunno
It hasn't got that many good games, most of the games they brought out were 'Look at us! We have a touch screen!' games. They're starting to get some good ones now, with only a few before now (Mario, Metroid prime etc.)
I don't know what games psp has now, because it's not worth my time to find out. :P

do i have to keep saying it?

i got both handhelds but my psp collects dust

do i have to keep saying it?

I'm aware that DIZZAL SHIZZAL = DS
but is that a compliment or an insult?
I'm not up to date with my 'street slang'

It's really a matter of personal opinion on which is better. My personal pick would be the Nintendo DS because it has more games that appeal to me and it's backwards compatible with GBA games so that expands the game library far beyond that of the PSP. The DS is getting it's own web browser pretty soon so the PSP's web functionality isn't really necessary for me at this point.

I Own Both Handhelds with a decent amount of games for both of them, but I prefer my DS better, just the quality of the games (Gameplay Wise) is just much more fun than the PSP IMO, the other stuff is nice but can't measure up to the pure bliss of DS Goodness, Lost In Blue 2 Rocks!!!!

I'm aware that DIZZAL SHIZZAL = DS
but is that a compliment or an insult?
I don't really know either, but I usually think of it as a complement. I thought that that DIZZAL SHIZZAL is usually applied to blingy stuff or something.

PSP core system price drops down to $169 tomorrow. Does that help?

PSP core system price drops down to $169 tomorrow. Does that help?
Is the drop worldwide or US only? Because I've been planning to get a PSP to just to see what's the fuss is all about (although I always had and will always love my DS), and it's no point for me if the drop's only for the US market.

that's good. i was planning on buying a second psp for myself in the future. but i'd rather get a second DS instead so i'll wait for the DS price drop.

Since I own Both, I would say if you like Pokemon, the DS. If you like Hardcore games and racing etc and other fun games and media, PSP is the way to go. In the US they dropped the price to $169 USD!

Since I own Both, I would say if you like Pokemon, the DS.
Not really. I'm not into poking man, but I still own a DS. Mostly use it for Final Fantasy VI Advance. So yeah, if you want a cheap handheld capable of playing classic Final Fantasy remakes (which you don't already have a GBA for) and if you like touchscreens (I do. Why I have two other PDAs) or voice recognition, go for a DS.


If you like Hardcore games and racing etc and other fun games and media, PSP is the way to go.
Well, fun is a subjective thing.


In the US they dropped the price to $169 USD!
Yeah, too bad in Malaysia these things still costs RM728, which IMO is still a little too much for a machine that doesn't have a touchscreen and whose microphone is sold separately, and whose software (especially UMD movies) can still be region locked. Hopefully the upcoming computer fair would see a drop in price.

Oooh. That still stinks. In USD, isn't it around 210USD if I'm right?

Oooh. That still stinks. In USD, isn't it around 210USD if I'm right?
Right. I keep forgetting. RM728=roughly US$210(assuming a conversion rate of roughly 3.5 to 1). Thanks for reminding me that I should always put in the US currency to make things easier on the other readers.

I definitely prefer my DS, as a big fan of Square and Atlus it's very nice to see support from them on it, and you can't really go wrong with some Nintendo games as well. Unique games like Trauma Center and Elite Beat Agents are a nice refreshing experience. I'm also a fan of adventure games and the DS seems to be reviving this almost lost genre.


Since I own Both, I would say if you like Pokemon, the DS. If you like Hardcore games and racing etc and other fun games and media, PSP is the way to go. In the US they dropped the price to $169 USD!
Most racing and sports games are anything but hardcore, they are mainstream games that appeal to a wide casual gaming audience. That definitely seems to be PSP's biggest audience.

I have a DS right now but I want a PSP, there are a nice amount of games for it I want.

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Right. I keep forgetting. RM728=roughly US$210(assuming a conversion rate of roughly 3.5 to 1). Thanks for reminding me that I should always put in the US currency to make things easier on the other readers.

Exactly.

Although, for people outside of the US, there is always ebay!

The only reeason a PSP would be worth buying is if you could get one with the old firmware that can play PS1 roms imo~

The only reeason a PSP would be worth buying is if you could get one with the old firmware that can play PS1 roms imo~
We do get pre-modded PSPs over here, but unfortunately they cost way more - RM1088(US$310) last I checked.

The only reeason a PSP would be worth buying is if you could get one with the old firmware that can play PS1 roms imo~

Well, it really depends on what type of games you play. I own a 3.30 PSP and I am perfectly happy with it.

DS over PSP
PSP is just not good.
the ONE analog stick it has sucks any way.
DS has so many good games and is so original and good.

Yeah. I find there's a couple of good games on psp. but there's not enough for me to waste $300+ to get it. DS, however, has many appealing games, and the cost is much less. Of course, i've been a long time nintendo 'fan', so my opinion is kinda bias. Although i still like sony and their playstation consoles. It's just the x-box i hate lol.

Whoo hoo!!! WipeOut Pulse comes out later this year!!!

Yeah. I find there's a couple of good games on psp. but there's not enough for me to waste $300+ to get it. DS, however, has many appealing games, and the cost is much less. Of course, i've been a long time nintendo 'fan', so my opinion is kinda bias. Although i still like sony and their playstation consoles. It's just the x-box i hate lol.

Well, then you must not have the same video game intrests as me. And that is completely fine. I am glad that you are enjoying your DS. Heck, like they always say, "The system is only as good as the games that are on it."

PS: I also hate the x-box (except for halo)

DS over PSP
PSP is just not good.
the ONE analog stick it has sucks any way.
DS has so many good games and is so original and good.

You are missing the point. I never even said that the DS Sucks. I like my DS (It's okay). Also, the DS DOESN'T EVEN HAVE AN ANALOG STICK, so why are you saying that 1 analog stick sucks, well and least the PSP actually HAS an analog stick!

Well, if you like square, then keep on playing your DS! Although it may sound like I am, I'm not trying to intimidate you DS owners here. All I'm doing is explaining that there is no point in continuing this debate. Eventually, this thread will be locked to to "Flame wars", "Offensive language", and having no meaning to continue because, by the looks of things now, there is absolutely no point in continuing if it's going to start and arguement. I thought this thread was to give advice to someone deciding between a PSP or a DS, not PSP fanboys vs DS fanboys?!

Safer Sepiroth - I totally agree.

As for the web browser tho, those who can't wait and have large amounts of dough can already find the Japanese or European versions of the browser on eBay or their local importers. I haven't yet, but will pretty soon.

You are missing the point. I never even said that the DS Sucks. I like my DS (It's okay). Also, the DS DOESN'T EVEN HAVE AN ANALOG STICK, so why are you saying that 1 analog stick sucks, well and least the PSP actually HAS an analog stick!

It may have an analog stick, but it's kinda pathetic. I say, if you're gonna have an analog stick, atleast have a decent one, don't waste our time with some midgety thing. I originally thought it was a speaker lol. It's better to have no analog stick, than that crappy thing

Well, to that I say, I LOVE the PSP analog sick! I even modded 6 dreamcast controllers to use the PSP ananlog sticks!