Lupin.

If Sailor Moon wins I am going to find and kill everyone that voted for it.

Lupin ftw

SAILOR MOON AND IF EVERYONE DOESN'T CHANGE THEIR FUCKING VOTES RIGHT NOW I WILL COME OVER TO YOUR HOUSE AND BREAK ALL YOUR FUCKING FINGERS YOU BETTER VOTE FOR SAILOR MOON RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!!!

*clears throught-comesoutofdemonicpossesion/obssession-clears throught*

sailor moon forever. she's my favorite. yay! i hope you all vote for her. pretty please with sugar on top. or else you'll make me very sad(angry). ^_@



























edit. i love lupin too. not dissing it. your all wannabe lupin fans too! i'm the bigger fan. i made sigs out of lupin! posers! but i have to vote for my life long fav.

Lupin

sry double post :s

Once again.. Lupin III for the win.. Sailor Moon gets a bad rep from snobby otaku, but in reality, it's a very charming and well written show. But on the other side of the coin, Lupin is a staple classic. And Jigen is pretty much the coolest character ever written.

Lupin the III for the win,... despite Tact's post.

Sailor Moon

Lupin III

Lupin the III for the win,... despite Tact's post.

:p

if i wasn't as obsessed with sm as i am, this would have been a tough vote for me and i prolly wouldn't vote at all. since i love lupin as well. but like i said, i can't forsake my life long love. :p



BISHOUJO SENSHI SAILOR MOON

I vote for Lupin again.

Sailor Moon..Lupin's old..

Sailor Moon..Lupin's old..

Ridiculous reasoning fyi

Sailor moon

Lupin the III, that dude kicks some ass AND has sweet hair!

lupin

i totally havent voted.

Lupin

Lupin

Lupin

Sailor Moon - 6
Lupin III - 17

Owned.



Dual - Part Tenchi Muyo and part El Hazard, with a dash of Evangelion thrown in for good measure, Dual is a quirky show about a guy named Kazuki who has been seeing strange visions of an alternate reality where giant robots do battle in the streets. A mad scientist's obnoxious daughter accidentally sends him to the alternate world he's been seeing, where he is quickly recruited as a pilot. In his off hours, he attends school and lives with his commander (the alternate universe's version of the aforementioned mad scientist), the obnoxious girl from his own world, and an alien girl named D.

VS

Trigun - Life isn't exactly easy for Vash the Stampede, what with having a $$60,000,000,000 price on his head and being considered the most dangerous man alive, known far and wide for leaving entire cities in ruins. In reality, he's a perfectly nice guy who binges on donuts, cries a lot, and generally acts like a fool. Underneath the carefree exterior, however, is a gunman of unrivaled skill whose aim is so precise that although he's never lost in a gunfight, he's never killed anyone either.

Trigun

Trigun. Vash is a great character- I'm a fan of the unassuming sort of hero. Wolfwood was always fun to watch too.

I've only seen the first couple episodes of Dual, but it didn't seem like anything special.

I enjoyed Dual, but it's not something I'd consider to be A-list. On the other hand, it did have a much more satisfying conclusion than Trigun.

Regardless of the rushed ending, Trigun was a fun show and I enjoyed it immensely as I watched the series on VHS years ago. Some may remember my first custom avatar in the old days of FFS was of Vash, so it's not hard to imagine I'd vote for it now. I'm not as enamored with the show as back then but I still carry fond memories of it. I'm certainly voting for it, based on sheer nostalgia and it's interesting characters. I also enjoy the soundtrack quite a bit. Tsuneo Imahori is a great guitarist.

Trigun

Trigun

Trigun

Trigun

I'm gonna go with Trigun, but it's not a show I feel as strongly about as I once did. After my initial viewing, I've gone back and gonethrough the story and really realized how 2-dimensional a lot of the characters were, and how AWFUL some of the villains were written. But, overall I still must say I enjoy the show quite a bit more than Dual, which never hooked me at all.

trigun fo sho!

dual because i feel bad for it

Trigun

trigun because it is awesome

Trigun

and Fyi Lupin voters :(

T r i g u n, w/o a question. <3 Vash & Wolfwood

I can't stand either! So I vote for nothing!

Dual -1
Trigun - 13

Not at all unexpected. Dual picks up one sympathy vote, but is otherwise crushed. To be honest, I'm not even sure why it survived the initial cut... Guess I just wasn't paying attention.



Ranma 1/2 - 15 year old martial artist Ranma Saotome returns from a trip to China with a strange curse that turns him into a girl every time he's splashed with cold water and only hot water can turn him back. Upon his return to Japan, he receives the added complications of his engagement to Akane Tendo, which was arranged by their parents, and his regular battles against an outrageous cast of misfits. Covers seven seasons of the tv series, an OVA series, and two (or is it three?) movies.

VS

Magic Knight Rayearth - Three teenage girls are magically spirited away from Tokyo Tower and deposited in a world called Cephiro, where they are quickly informed that they must save the world from destruction in order to be returned home. Guided by Mokona, a cute creature that seems to be able to providethe girls with anything they need, they travel the lands of Cephiro to acquire the powers they need to become Magic Knights. The second segment (season?) of the show deals with the aftermath of that adventure. Also covers a three-part OVA remake.

Look Ndi! A Clamp show!

Ranma 1/2. I haven't seen an episode of the show, but I really really want to - it sounds hilarious.

Probably won't be as naughty as i'd like, though.

Ranma 1/2

Oh Mokona. You have my heart for always. <3

Magic Knight Rayearth.

Ranma.

I really love that song from Rayearth though. The uh... "Yuzurenai Negai"... yeah.

Ranma

magic knight rayearth

Ranma

MKR

Magic Knight Rayearth

I don't mind Rayearth, I actually like Clamp's style, but even though Ndi will decapitate me, I will have to vote for Ranma.

I liked Ranma alot, but I think I liked the Clamp series better, so Magic Knight Rayearth

i saw the first 6 episodes in realmedia format. and i've been looking for the rest ever since. freaging hilarious show.

ranma gets my vote.

Ranma

I don't mind Rayearth, I actually like Clamp's style, but even though Ndi will decapitate me, I will have to vote for Ranma.

You are spared because I like your head!

Thank you so much m'lady.

I could make reference to the various meanings of "head" but I won't.

I won't.

Ranma

Thank you so much m'lady.

I could make reference to the various meanings of "head" but I won't.

I won't.

OH I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT SHE REALLY MEANT.

iykwim

Rayearth

Magic Knight Rayearth

Ranma 1/2 - 9
Magic Knight Rayearth - 7

Clamp doesn't seem to be doing well. First Chobits goes down and now this. At least Cardcaptor Sakura made it through the first round.




Hellsing - The Hellsing organization has long battled against the undead in Great Britain, keeping their crusade hidden from the eyes of the populace. However, even with the assistance of the vampires Alucard and Seras Victoria, the war now threatens to spill out into the streets as artificially created "Freak" vampires begin appearing. Combined with the threat of a semi-psychotic paladin from the Vatican, it's not a great time to be a Protestant knight. With a new series slated for release this December, Hellsing looks poised to become a hot property again.

VS

Goldenboy - Perverted genius Kintaro Oe takes to the road on his trusty bicycle to learn all he can about the world. Over the course of his travels/studies, he screws up in every way imaginable, but always proves his competence by the end of each episode. It was based on a hentai manga, but the show is somewhat cleaner, albeit still very perverted.

Hellsing

HELLSING MOTHERFUCKERS

Hellsing, of course.

Hellsing

Hellsing!

damn i have all of both series, and i think goldenboy is freakin hilarious, but damn i think hellsing is just plain badass. arg. i vote for both.

(for those of you keeping count, that's the same as me not voting at all. :D)

but if anyone needs a tie breaker. make it hellsing. goldenboy is 6 eps only. hellsing 13. so i'll go for hellsing.

Hellsing even tho Goldenboy is great but way too short

Hellsing

Hellsing

I'll vote for Hellsing as well.

Screw you all, Goldenboy is funny as hell, it gets my vote

I like them both but, Goldenboy.

HELLSING

HELLSING MOTHERFUCKERS

Cos Eternal Damnation music video (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=15045)

Hellsing every, AND any, day of the week

Hellsing.

Screw you all, Goldenboy is funny as hell, it gets my vote
and i thought you were starting to be cool. shows what i know.

Hellsing.

wow. ashin sounds like a bigger fan than i am. even changed his sig.

but that's impossible. i can prove it with this tatoo i got on my forehead. :D


(note: the tatoo is made up and tact is just intimidated by ashin's fandom and feels threatened because tact is self proclaimed mega fan)

Golden Boy =o

tough choice tho

and i thought you were starting to be cool. shows what i know.
Hey now, Hellsing is pretty damn awesome as well, I just like Goldenboy more.

Hellsing - 15
Goldenboy - 3

To be honest, I'm a bit surprised that Goldenboy got any votes at all. I thought I was the only person on earth who would vote for it over Hellsing.




Wings of Honneamise - The tale of an alien race's first steps into space. The Royal Space Force is an underfunded agency that's viewed as nothing more than a joke by the rest of the nation. However, the government they serve has found another use for them: bait to start a war with another country. Now they must race against time to complete their launch in order to prevent the conflict.

VS

Serial Experiments Lain - Sorry, but no description this time. To be perfectly honest, I don't know enough about Lain to write anything about it, nor can I find any decent descriptions of the series. I'd appreciate it if someone could take the time to write a few lines about it for me to post here.

This is the last match of the first round. I know Lain is probably more well-known, but Wings of Honneamise ranks among the best movies I've ever seen. I certainly hope it does well!

Wings of Honneamise

Here's a good synopsis for Lain imo:

http://animeworld.com/reviews/lain.html

Wings

Wings of Honneamise.

np prak ^^

Wings of Mayo..Honneamise is excellent viewing. I'd have to kill myself if I voted against it.

THUS I VOTE FOR IT.

Wings of Honneamise

Here's an even better synopsis for Lain imo: its SHIT

Wings of Honneamise.

also wings of honneamise

Wings

so that's what lain was all about. i saw the whole series and had no fucking clue the entire time.

anyway. i ain't voting for something i havne't seen so i go for lain.

Wings of Honneamise

Odin's post counts as a Honneamise vote.

Wings of Honneamise

It took me an unbelievably long time to get this.

"Mayonnaise? And a strange orangish liquid? what could it mean?"

What the fuck, rezo. Haven't you seen honey before?

I don't like it so it doesn't come up often, and when it does it is usually marked in containers clearly labeled "honey".

I mean... without the label, that could be pancake syrup or anything.

That would obviously be the worst pancake syrup ever, then.

Wings of Honneamise; yeah...Lain=Technolyze=rubbish..

Wings of Honneamise.

Wings of Honneamise - 13
Serial Experiments Lain - 1

Round one ends with a near blowout. Too bad Tact has never seen Wings. On to Round 2!

A couple of changes at this point: First, now that brackets have been established, the battles will no longer be random. Second, I'll be voting now that my own vote will no longer be needed for tiebreakers.




Cowboy Bebop - A very episodic series following the often offbeat adventures of a group of interstellar bounty hunters including Spike Spiegel (a martial arts expert with a dark past), Jet Black (Spike's partner and owner of the Bebop), Faye (Spike and Jet's chief competitor and erstwhile companion), and Ed (a young girl with a prodigious talent for computer hacking). Includes one movie.

VS

Fullmetal Alchemist - A very hot property at the moment which tells the tale of Edward and Alphonse Elric, two young alchemists who failed a transmutation which cost Ed an arm and a leg, but destroyed Al's entire body, leaving his soul trapped in a suit of armor. Together, they seek the Philosopher's Stone, an alchemical amplifier powerful enough to restore their bodies to normal. Also includes one movie.

This is bound to be interesting. I'm not particularly fond of either show, but I suppose I'll go with Fullmetal Alchemist just because I cared enough about it to watch the whole thing.

Cowboy Bebop

FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST MOTHERFUCKERS

Cowboy Bebop plz

Bebop > all

I'm going with Cowboy Bebop, just because it's made a bigger impact on me then FMA has. I think they are both good shows!

FullMetal Alchemist

Bebop > some!

(included in some: Fullmetal Alchemist maybe)

Cowboy Bebop.

Fullmetal alchemist (tho I liked) doesnt even compare.

Cowboy Bebop

Cowboy Bebop

COWBOY BEBOP MOTHERFUCKERS

Cowboy Bepop

Fullmetal Alchemist

Cowboy Bebop is the goods

EDIT: Delete this post please any mod.

Cowboy Bebop is the goods

You got 3 fiddy?

final vote I think not!I lso vote full metel!

"final vote full metel"by tact

Cowboy Bebop. I liked both FMA and Cowboy Bebop. But I'll go for Cowboy Bebop.

full metal alchemist

ok. i had the pleasure of watching cowbe from begining to end. with a very memorable end. however, i've only seen the first half (i think) of fma and have yet to see its conclusion. which can be 1 one of things. 1, the most jawdropping mind blowing ending i've ever seen, or, they get stupid and decide to make a 200+ episode series out of this thus turning it into a piece of shit.

i loved fma so far. and was left at a cliffhanger back when the episodes ended and before they got new ones again. but i only liked cowbe here and there and its the ending that makes me wanna vote for it. even though i also love ed and fei should be naked all the time. :p

but i really like the fma plot from start to finish. i'm hooked to it. i feel like getting involved if i could interact with the characters. i'd be like, hey! i'll help you guys! :p

so i'll go for fma.

Cowboy Bebop

FMA!

COWBOY BEBOP MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

guys im gonna have to ask you to stop fucking copying me.

I feel out of all of the animes that have been accepted on a more "mainstream" level outside of Japan, Cowboy Bebop is one of the few that deserves it. I have to vote for it, sorry Prak. Overrated or not, I really enjoy it, and it gets major points for the score alone.

Cowboy Bebop - 15
Fullmetal Alchemist - 8

Your vote doesn't bother me in the slightest, Ktulu. In fact, it wouldn't bother me even if you didn't have that awesome ava/sig that complements mine so well. ;) I just don't like either show enough to care which goes on.




Super Dimensional Fortress Macross - Originally chronicling the war between humanity and an alien race called the Zentraedi, the Macross franchise has since branched off into several other equally gripping tales. With its classic military/mecha action and powerful well-told stories, the series has long been a benchmark for sci-fi anime.

VS

Fushigi Yugi - Love triangles abound, and friendships are put to the test after two ordinary girls are magically transported to ancient China. One of the girls is transported back to the modern world almost immediately, while the other is left to search for her friend and a way home. The anime, which came from the shojou manga of the same name, ran for 52 episodes, and spawned several short OVAs. (Courtesy of Ndi, since I haven't seen it.)

In this case, I care a bit more. I'm voting for Macross out of a combination of respect for its merits and disdain for the other show taking down Berserk.

everything popular is overrated! that doesn't mean it isn't good.

Macross

Yugi

I'm with Prak and Hobbes, I vote Macross.

Thanks for the words Prak. I adore you MORE THAN EVER.

Yugi

errrr
Macross

I hate shoujo :/

Macross

With its classic military/mecha action and powerful well-told stories, the series has long been a benchmark for sci-fi anime.

But it's such a goofy series. "OH NO WHAT IS THIS KISSING! PLEASE DON'T DEFEAT US WITH SONG! WE ARE TALL."

I'll vote for Fushigi Yugi as protest against your praise.

FUCK YOU REZO.

SUPER DIMENSIONAL FORTRESS MACROSS

MOTHER FUCKERS.

Macross

Fushigi Yugi

I would side with Rezo, but Super Dimensional Fortress Macross was my first mecha anime. I do like shoujo though... Dark Mystery(Fushiki Yuki) was pretty good still.

Macross

I don't know how to vote, so

I will vote the same as whoever posts after me votes!

If you've already voted, you can just post again to sway my vote.

macross. this counts for ndi too! :D

Macross - 11
Fushigi Yugi - 4

I'm calling this one a bit early early to get back on pace. It doesn't look like Fushigi Yugi has a chance anyway.



FLCL - A very short--and even more demented--OVA series about...a guy who has mecha sprouting out of his head? Or is it about the mysterious crazy alien girl who uses a bass guitar as a weapon? I can hardly tell. =/

VS

Golgo 13 - Ranking among the greatest badasses in anime history, Golgo 13 is a nigh-invincible assassin who will kill anybody, no matter who or how well-protected they are, if the price is right. Picture James Bond without any trace of a conscience. Covers two movies adapted from an extremely long-running manga.


FLCL Golgo 13 for me, thanks.

FLCL

FLCL
hell even a blind man can enjoy it

FLCL

<B>FLCL</B>

FLCL

FLCL
no questions asked

golgo 13.

you all suck

FLCL

normally in such a situation, I would avoid being told that I "suck" by voting for Goglo 13, but as it's up against FLCL and the music from FLCL alone makes it amazing, it gets my vote.

Stupid kids today.


With their music.

I'm guessing it won't have any chance at this point but I have to pick Golgo 13. Never have I had more lust for a hitman.

Golgo 13

I haven't seen Golgo 13, so for rezo's sake I won't vote for either.

The irrelevance of this post hurts my soul.

flcl sucked. i don't care if i haven't seen golgo. i'm voting for golgo.

flcl sucked. i don't care if i haven't seen golgo. i'm voting for golgo.


HMPFFHH
where is the -rep button
doesnt this forum have a -rep button?!,?? :O:o:|
hmpfffff .. Flcl was a frikking revolutionary piece of anime, smiting this is smiting progression

*goes off to another forum and -reps a random person*


But I have to let this slide
Master roshi is teh perv master o//

FLCL

GOLGO 13 FOR THE WIN!!!

Golgo 13!

golgo 13





,,,


Yare yare,,,,

GOLGO 13

Cos FLCL is a bunch of shit piled together in one show in an attempt to fool people into thinking the creator is deep.

GOLGO 13

Cos FLCL is a bunch of shit piled together in one show in an attempt to fool people into thinking the creator is deep.

that is so missing the point xD
I love this show, but there's practically nothing deep about it, nor is there anything to get.. and that never was the point
Its just a rollercoaster of madness, with intense visuals and gorgeous animation... I hate when people try to put a point to anything, and when they cant find any they call it shit >_>

I hate when people act like shit anime should be considered good just because it looks pretty.

FLCL - 9
Golgo 13 - 9

Between a string of votes for Golgo and my own change of heart, what looked at first like a runaway victory for FLCL has turned into a tie. Let's see the results of the tiebreaker.

Previous round:
FLCL - 66.67% of total vote.
Golgo 13 - 90% of total vote.

Golgo 13 pulls out a shocking come-from-behind victory!




Last Exile - Claus and Lavie are a pair of Vanship pilots in a strange retro-futuristic world. Throughout the course of this well-crafted and beautifully animated story, they become involved in a war that will change the face of their world. Overall, it makes for a very fine balance between action, political intrigue, and character development.

VS

Outlaw Star - Gene Starwind and company travel the galaxy in a super-advanced (not to mention stolen) ship in search of the legendary Galactic Leyline, taking on assassins, pirates, sorcerers, aliens, and other dangers along the way. It also spawned a spinoff series called Angel Links.



Last Exile without a doubt. In fact, I might go as far as to say I would possibly consider doubting the sanity of anyone voting otherwise!

Rezo, we must rejoice! Hurrah for golgo.

I'll vote for Last Exile here.

Rezo, we must rejoice! Hurrah for golgo.


Indeed. Prak, you no longer suck. AS FOR EVERYONE ELSE THOUGH...




last exile.

What about me? I liked FLCL and didn't vote for it regardless. WAY TO RETURN MY GESTURE OF KINDNESS

OUTLAW STAR

What about me? I liked FLCL and didn't vote for it regardless. WAY TO RETURN MY GESTURE OF KINDNESS

I meant the rest of the people as in people that voted for FLCL.


But now I mean "the people that voted for FLCL and kubirio"

Last Exile

outlaw star

outlaw star

just because FLCL looked pretty.

last exile

Last Exile.

Last Exile was, as stated before, a masterpiece.

Go Prak! Anyway, Outlaw Star for me, it was all that was on in the US when I was in the US for an entire school year, in terms of good anime.

Last Exile.

Last Exile - 9
Outlaw Star - 4

Pretty decisive and utterly expected.




Bubblegum Crisis - One of the defining entries in the cyberpunk genre, BGC was one of the earlier anime series to be available in North America. It centers around a group of young women known as the Knight Sabers, a team of armored vigilantes who battle against out of control Boomers (androids) and the ruthless Genom Corporation that manufactures them. The 90's saw an updated version of the series produced that greatly expanded the story of the original. It's spawned several spinoffs, but they're nowhere near as notable as Bubblegum Crisis and Bubblegum Crisis: Tokyo 2040.

VS

Ghost in the Shell - In the not-so-distant future, law enforcement has become heavily reliant on cyborgs. One such cyborg, Motoko Kusanagi, seeks a mysterious "brain hacker" only to find something more amazing and dangerous than she imagined. Also includes a sequel movie and two full-length prequel tv series'.


While Ghost in the Shell was fairly neat for its time, it simply doesn't have the enduring appeal for me that Bubblegum Crisis does. Come to think of it, GitS was pretty mediocre all the way around and doesn't even begin to compare to BGC's awesomeness!

well.. here's one i feel strongly about. guess i'll break out the red text.

GHOST IN THE SHELL MOTHERFUCKERS

Ghost in the Shell

Ghost in the Shell

Bubblegum Crisis motherfuckers!!!!!

Yay chorns!

Ghost in the Shell.

Bubblegum Crisis

Bubblegum Crisis motherfuckers!!!!!

BUBBLEGUM CRISIS

Ghost in the Shell bored the ever living shit out of me.

So:

BUBBLE GUM CRISIS MOTHERFUCKERS

Ghost in the Shell bored the ever living shit out of me.

So:

BUBBLE GUM CRISIS MOTHERFUCKERS

bubblegum crisis

Bubble Gum Crisis is more entertaining. GitS leaves me bored sometimes. Thus I vote for BGC.

Ghost In The Shell

Ghost in the Shell bored the ever living shit out of me.

So:

BUBBLE GUM CRISIS MOTHERFUCKERS

GHOST IN THE SHELL

because i love any futuristic anime/manga/movie/book that makes me wish/hope/aspire(inspire)/work towards such futures.


bgc doesn't inspire shit.

because i love any futuristic anime/manga/movie/book that makes me wish/hope/aspire(inspire)/work towards such futures.

good luck living that long...

I POSTED IN THIS YESTERDAY I SWEAR

Anyways, Bubblegum Crisis.

good luck living that long...


hey thanks man. that means a lot to me. its something i take very seriously. i'm confident i'll see cool stuff. i don't expect it all, but i expect a lot. just look at what we have accomplished in the past 100 or so years. that's a fucking LOT!!! imagine in just 50?? and shit. i'm only 22. add to that the fact that people live longer and longer every generation. i'm set man. :D

my one true dream however is seeing the world of giant mecha. robotech is the anime that inspires that in me. makes me wanna get degrees in engineering and the like. i watch discovery science as much as i can for up to date stuff on the latest in technilogical advances and i like sci-fi books for more inspiration. the future is now! :p

Bubblegum Crisis - 12
Ghost in the Shell - 6

The cyberpunk crown goes to BGC.




Dragonball - Love it or hate it, I'm sure you know all about it. The Dragonball franchise lasted for over a decade in various incarnations and spanned three tv shows, as well as over a dozen movies.

VS

Patlabor - Another very persistent franchise, the Patlabor series has existed since 1989 and has seen new material as recently as 2003. In a world where giant robots called "labors" are used for everything from construction to warfare, a motley crew of of police officers utilize advanced patrol units called Patlabors to maintain law and order. Covers 1 TV series, 2 OAV series', and 3 movies.


Patlabor for me.

seeing as its the originator of the shounen genre definitly Dragonball

wich should NOT be mistaken as Dragonball Z

most people havent even seen the original Dragonball

seeing as its the originator of the shounen genre


No it isn't.

Patlabor.

No it isn't.
Yes it is.

it is here in the states and every other non japanese/asian country.


and its db/z/gt for me. all are good.

it is here in the states and every other non japanese/asian country.


no it isn't.


Yes it is.

No way man, it totally isn't.

Patlabor

Dragonball

Patlabor bores the crap out of me =/

no it isn't.



No way man, it totally isn't.
yes way man it totally is.

I vote for Patlabor due to that factory scene in the beginning of Patlabor 2, again. I honestly don't know if it really is good or not, but when I saw it a long time ago, the animation blew me away. I found a lot of the rest of it pretty dull, but that one feeling is something Dragonball never gave me.

You should've seen the factory scene in Dragonball 3.


yes way man it totally is.

Then how do you explain all of the ones that came before it! You can't. It is not possible

what otherszzzz/!??

there are others. that is true. but let me prove to you, my point.


walks over to lil billy, an average american youth...from america who will be asked a series of questions as to his knowledge regarding anime shows that came before dbz.

"hey billy, do you know what thundercats are?"

"no"

"hey billy, have you ever heard of Gatchaman?"

"no"

"hey billy, have you ever seen, ronin warriors, silverhawks, robotech, gundam, (the list goes on)"

"did you say gundam? oh hell yah, i love gundam seed, it rulze!! i see it all the times on the tellies!"

Patlabor

there are others. that is true. but let me prove to you, my point.


you prove points like a stupid.


what otherszzzz/!??

did it have an old perverted geezer that had volcanic nosebleeds when he saw a cute girl?
i bet it didnt!

there are others. that is true. but let me prove to you, my point.


walks over to lil billy, an average american youth...from america who will be asked a series of questions as to his knowledge regarding anime shows that came before dbz.

"hey billy, do you know what thundercats are?"

"no"

"hey billy, have you ever heard of Gatchaman?"

"no"

"hey billy, have you ever seen, ronin warriors, silverhawks, robotech, gundam, (the list goes on)"

"did you say gundam? oh hell yah, i love gundam seed, it rulze!! i see it all the times on the tellies!"

You are the worst person at proving points ever.

Just because a random little kid on the streets never watched Battle of the Planets doesn't mean that Dragonball Z is an earlier example of shounen anime being sucessful in america.

That's like you saying the Matrix was the first successful action movie, because little kids are more likely to have heard of it then older successful action movies.

You should've seen the factory scene in Dragonball 3.


U MEAN TEH WOOD CHIPERR SCENE IN TEH TREE OF MIGHT? OMG ITZ AWESOKEMR!


it is here in the states and every other non japanese/asian country.


Nah

Just because a random little kid on the streets never watched Battle of the Planets doesn't mean that Dragonball Z is an earlier example of shounen anime being sucessful in america.

let me emphasize my points yet again.

1. ANIME

2. SUCCESFUL

3. AMERICA


any questions?


maybe i should make things a little harder instead. lets not only take away little billy, but also...

lets take away all these newbie wannabe anime fans, mostly everyone on this forum, who was introduced to anime from dbz, then learned about better stuff and consider themselves elite for being able to find cooler better stuff than dbz. they now consider dbz to be the suck, and then, in order to not be labled stupid noobs like little billy who only know of newer anime, they make an effort to remember older shows they didn't care two shits about when they were kids, but now have some magical newfound appreciation for these older works and talk about them like 30 year olds remenicing on the good old times.

fucking fags. admit it. your all between 15 and 21 and don't remember jack shit. only later did you realize "oh crap, voltron/gijoe/transformers is anime...COOL, i am so cool for liking anime before i knew it was anime".

fucking fgt's. get a life.


go and d/l bleach and naruto or whatever the fuck you do.

The assertion was that "its the originator of the shounen genre."

It's clearly not the "originator of the shounen genre." I'm really not sure why you bother to argue about it. You're wrong, and anyone who bothers to research it for ten seconds will come to the same conclusion.

Your little tantrum doesn't change the fact that you're wrong about a pretty obvious subject.

is that what everyone's been talking about this whole time? sheesh. i wouldn't even have to admit that i'm wrong, i would never say that to begin with.

i was under the impression somebody meant something along the lines of "its what started action/guy anime in the USA"

which i'd like to say is true and i agree with it. heck. anime in general imo.

do i have to keep stressing that?

...that's still not true though.

Patlabor ftw. Cos Dragonball blows.

...that's still not true though.


well it is an opinion afterall. :p no need to fight me about it. i also have opinions about hamburgers and how they are technically sandwitches. anybody wanna fight me about that?


however. i'd emphasize ANIME. and KNOWING, it was an anime. (and i'm not talking about technical definition of anime)


sure gijoe prolly hit it off, who knows what was first, too lazy to find out, but did we know it was anime? shit. i was prolly 9 everything was a cartoon when i was young. didn't even know voltron was anime. but i loved it.

anyway, now that i think aobut it, i think i'd rather say,

TOONAMI, was the originator of anime, in the USA.

now that's something with some balls on! i'd like to see a discussion on that one. :D

i seriously doubt we'd all be where we are now, if it wasn't for toonami. lets all give thanks. :p

well it is an opinion afterall. :p no need to fight me about it. i also have opinions about hamburgers and how they are technically sandwitches. anybody wanna fight me about that?


however. i'd emphasize ANIME. and KNOWING, it was an anime. (and i'm not talking about technical definition of anime)


sure gijoe prolly hit it off, who knows what was first, too lazy to find out, but did we know it was anime? shit. i was prolly 9 everything was a cartoon when i was young. didn't even know voltron was anime. but i loved it.

anyway, now that i think aobut it, i think i'd rather say,

TOONAMI, was the originator of anime, in the USA.

now that's something with some balls on! i'd like to see a discussion on that one. :D

i seriously doubt we'd all be where we are now, if it wasn't for toonami. lets all give thanks. :p


There were anime fans in the US in the 80s. They bought japanese videos and "fansubs" were printouts of the dialogue that they read along with the show or before/after watching. Hell, they were here before the 80s.

Not everyone started with Toonami, hell, dragonball Z didn't even start on Toonami. It came on super early on Saturdays before going to cartoon network(Battle of the Planets reruns were shown before it) or didn't know what an anime was until you did. Sci-fi channel had its own weekly anime movie showing in the early 90s and that was mostly the fruits of building on the success anime had already gained in the US before that. You're just being stupid. Quit it.


also: Grow up.




well it is an opinion afterall.

Its an incorrect statement of fact.

Patlabor, Dragonball was great, but died quickly after the Freeza saga for me.

DBZ

There were anime fans in the US in the 80s. They bought japanese videos and "fansubs" were printouts of the dialogue that they read along with the show or before/after watching. Hell, they were here before the 80s.

Not everyone started with Toonami, hell, dragonball Z didn't even start on Toonami. It came on super early on Saturdays before going to cartoon network(Battle of the Planets reruns were shown before it) or didn't know what an anime was until you did. Sci-fi channel had its own weekly anime movie showing in the early 90s and that was mostly the fruits of building on the success anime had already gained in the US before that. You're just being stupid. Quit it..

Yep! There was even the Mazinger Z dub/edit"Tranzor Z" in the 80s, and even shows like "Robotech" that Tact mentioned before but suddenly forgot were popular with lots of people, whether or not they knew about the multiple shows that made it up, or that the proper term for it was anime. To say Toonami is the start of anime in America is just ignorant.


fucking fags. admit it. your all between 15 and 21 and don't remember jack shit. only later did you realize "oh crap, voltron/gijoe/transformers is anime...COOL, i am so cool for liking anime before i knew it was anime"

The original Transformers show aired in the 80s is absolutely not anime, it was written and recorded in English first. G.I. Joe is also an American property. Especially G.I. Joe! If that had been made in Japan it probably would have been a crazy sentai style show, with the whole team comprised of multi-colored variations of Snake Eyes, and Cobra Commander cast as a giant robot from another dimension!

Basically, it's not nice to get angry with people that disagree with you, especially when you're throwing around facts that aren't so factual.

Dragon Ball

i'm a little lazy right now. but could someone QUOTE me even mentioning the word "fact" and anything i've said. thanks. ;) i'm not even gonna go back and look to make sure. go find it for yourself.

anyway. the only things you guys have managed to prove is that there are fans of anime before dbz. but that doesn't really mean anything because even the stupidest crap has cult followings but is never considered HUGELY popular. just some small number of fanboys or what not. i thought we were talking about HUGELY popular. oh wait no. something about originators. maybe if i reword what i'm trying to get across. meh. whats the point. it doesn't bother me either way. i'm surprised you guys took it so seriously. maybe i should make a thread labeled. "what anime got you into anime and you knew it was anime". i'd like to see the replies on that. ;)

it was robotech, sailor moon and dbz for me. and i'm speaking for MYSELF. i've no need to speak for the HIDDEN market that existed before the 80's of anime fans no one has ever heard of. i speak only for myself.


btw rezo. um...your confusing me. you talk as if what i say is just nonsense and yet you take it more seriously than anyone else here. otherwise you'd say "...shut up noob" or something and then not post. then call me names, and well. its funny. keep it up. you make me laugh. :) just remember your trying to correct someone who really doesn't care at all. if anything i'm just fucking with you. that would be too easy. so i'll pretend to be serious when neccesary.

"no your wrong!"

ok im done.


as for ktulu. well i hope you exuse me for getting angry. i just go annoyed at everyone for vehemently denying what it was they first started on, and then trying to prove me wrong by giving examples of OTHER poeple. everyone should just speak for themselves and not people we don't know. pfft. :p

"blah blah, der wuz anime fanz before der 80's lar! duh! joo R so dumb! haha noob!"

rofl. that's all i heard to be honest. everything else was filtered out. rofl.

just remember your trying to correct someone who really doesn't care at all.


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as for ktulu. well i hope you exuse me for getting angry. i just go annoyed at everyone for vehemently denying what it was they first started on, and then trying to prove me wrong by giving examples of OTHER poeple. everyone should just speak for themselves and not people we don't know. pfft. :p

"blah blah, der wuz anime fanz before der 80's lar! duh! joo R so dumb! haha noob!"

rofl. that's all i heard to be honest. everything else was filtered out. rofl.


Oh man, you're going to look back at this one day and laugh at yourself so much. That is, after doing a little growing up.

Tact, I think you're underestimating the popularity of shows such as robotech. Also, just because this particular group of people are young doesn't mean that there weren't older fans that were more aware of such show's exact origins back then.

I don't think anyone is out to make you look stupid, we just all see things differently and are trying to share that.

ok. i must speak seriously now,

first of all.

ktulu. thanks. i appreciate that last sentense. very nice of you. it makes me wanna stop annoying you guys. please don't feel bad or nothing. plus, me am sorry. i don't mind being put back in my place. hey if you feel like trying it, feel free. i know myself and i know i get like that sometimes. :p i'm the EXACT same way in real life. most people just get tired and say "shut up". i'm the type of person who gets loud when happy but other people get annoyed..and so on.

and yes, i very much understand what your trying to say.


rezo, everything you say makes me laugh. thanks. :) i just don't know how many years you'd estimate i'd have to grow up to laugh at it. i'm 22 right now. would i have to wait till 30? or 40?

would i have to wait till 30? or 40?

Maybe. I will tell you in 8 or 18 years.

ok :)

Patlabor - 8
Dragonball - 5

Rezo, did you notice that you never voted this time?




Appleseed - In a post-apocalyptic world, humans live alongside Bioroids (androids) in a Utopian civilization until a terrorist plot orchestrated by a disgruntled police officer threatens to undo their very way of life. The original OAV is still very highly regarded, although the recent movie has met with a more lukewarm reception from fans. Two sequels (one movie and a tv series) are planned for next year.

VS

Space Pirate Captain Harlock - One of the most recognizable names in anime, the notorious pirate Harlock travels the sea of stars in his near-invincible battleship Arcadia, fighting tirelessly for nothing more than his own honor and freedom, as well as the memory of his best friend. If my count is correct, this covers three series and one movie, although many of the characters have appeared in several other shows.


I think I'll take a page out of ashin's book this time.

CAPTAIN HARLOCK MOTHERFUCKERS

Rezo, did you notice that you never voted this time?

haha, I was planning too, but never made a decision and then sorta forgot.

I'll vote this time. lol@appleseed.

It'd take a miracle for appleseed to win.

I vote Harlock all the way

most of the time whatever i vote for with red text loses.

I seem to recall Hellsing winning pretty decisively. You used red text on that one.

"most of the time"

reading comprehension!

CAPTAIN HARLOCK MOTHERFUCKERS

.

Captain Harlock

All my american friends could talk about was Akira back the early 90s, and obviously not very many Americans had heard of DBZ at that time. Oh yeah, Harlock.

appleseed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Space Pirate Captain Harlock.

I discovered Captain Harlock in the fan comics Benn Dunn(I think his name was) published from Antarctic Press in the early 90s. I really don't like Dunn at all and Antarctic Press is a bit of a joke. I'm glad I found those comics before deciding to never get Antarctic Press anything ever, because Harlock is pretty awesome. Back then I was getting anything vaguely manga related in the comic stores. My early idea that all japanese comics were like Akira or Appleseed were dashed very quickly. =\


Also: My cousin saw one of my Harlock comics and said "El Capitan!" because he had been watching it on some local spanish channel.

Good times.

wauw..
just wauw

Captain Harlock

I really don't get why people loved the new appleseed movie so much. =/