SonicAdventure
03-14-2016, 08:05 AM



The Music

For years, I have wanted to do a Deluxe Edition for 'The Mummy Returns'. The one problem I had was that I didn�t like the score that much. You see, I bought the OST in 2002 and the CD never did it for me. Not because of music that was missing, it was because of Silvestri�s tendency to do, what I call, very scene specific �stop-and-go� scoring. Thus I never listened to any expanded version either, even though people offered them to me as soon as 2008. Then there were sound issues. The OST suffers from old fashioned, audible dynamic compression (pumping artefacts) and an overall brittle and abrasive sound, causing tracks like �My First Bus Ride� seem like a screaming mess. The complete versions are not mastered, they sound warmer at the cost of blown up upper bass / lower mids leading to a hollow sound. Not to mention that soft parts are barely audible. Additionally, some tracks either seem to be recorded at a later date or have been mixed differently. On those tracks, the male choir is mixed almost in its entirety to the center, some cheap and obnoxious reverb has been added (which, I have to be honest, could have been added by people like me in an attempt to �improve� the sound).

So I indeed did have several reasons to tackle an Edition. The most important reason however was that I was hoping to like the music after I�d be finished. I call this the �Crystal Skull� effect: working on the Edition for Williams� �Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull� (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?t=179864&highlight=) turned a score I didn�t like into one that now is one of my favourites. I finished �The Mummy Returns� last week and though it isn�t one of my favourites yet, my Edition certainly has improved what I feel and think about the score. Another reason might be that my taste has changed over the years. Now that I�m older I seem to prefer more complex scores that I need to discover � and �The Mummy Returns� delivers on complexity� just take the orchestration! And I have to mention it: in no way should this release devalue Cody's attempt (Thread 188041). I have not listened to his version so I don�t know how he combined pieces, if he changed something about the sound or if he did anything else. But I�m sure that it was a lot of work. So if you don�t like my version and the changes I made, why don�t you have a look at his?


The Sound

Mastering this score took unusually long. There was nothing wrong with it, I didn�t have to re-create lost frequencies or something stupid like that. But I had many short very silent passages and many short very loud passages� since I balance their respective gain manually with faders, I just had a lot to work on. Secondly, it took me quite a while to find a sound signature I was happy with. I wanted to add warmth (but not increase the hollow sound), charm, loose the abrasiveness, turn the flat stage into something more 3dimensional yet at the same time keep the crispness and impression of dynamics. In the end, I achieved everything I set out to do, I�m very happy with the result � quite something as I�m never really happy with something. It will sound very colourful, it will sound well anywhere, you will love it, I�m sure.
Even though the pieces with additional reverb still sound different I managed to match their sound as close as possible to the rest and I�m relieved that I was able to push them this far. They are: Disc 1: 16. Ancient Memories, Disc 2: 9. Sand Warriors Unleashed, 10. Everybody Fights, 11. Finale / Happy Ending, 12. End Credits. I also managed to find something of an Alternate: the album version of �Just An Oasis� is a different take and some notes seem to be altered. I bet that I�m the first one to discover this and while I usually delete those tracks for reasons of redundancy, I included it this time. Also included are the song and the End Credits Suite. Many people will disagree but I always liked the song. I also like the Suite but I�m not quite sure if it�s a piece recorded like this or if it was spliced together using other parts of the score. Still, it serves as a very nice outro to a marvellous score. And again, I need to thank Fink (http://forums.ffshrine.org/member.php?u=112417) as he complained about one track not being up to snuff and for doubting my decision to pull the "End Credits" and "The Mummy Returns" Album Suite apart ;)





Cover

Well, the cover design is my usual job. Of big help was � again � Heidl (http://forums.ffshrine.org/member.php?u=428356), who I asked for an opinion which he then graciously offered (and I then followed). You have two different front cover designs that are all based on official material. The version sporting my usual Deluxe Edition banner was the most tiresome to create and if you look closely you can see a bunch of errors I did. Late in the process, I discovered that I had almost completely discarded any material from the movie itself, opting instead for material having no relation to it at all (like generic pictures of hieroglyphs, papyrus, pyramids, sand, etc.). So I rectified this with the advantage that you can choose again which design you like best.


Tracklist:

Disc One

1. The Legend Of The Scorpion King 4:54
2. Family O�Connell, Explorers 4:02
3. One Hell Of A Reincarnation 1:51
4. Scorpion Shoes / Hamunaptra 5:34
5. Imhotep Unearthed 3:16
6. Just An Oasis / Visitors 1:56
7. Bracelet Awakens 1:29
8. Siege Of O�Connell Manor 1:48
9. Evy Kidnapped 5:55
10. Imhotep Reborn 4:24
11. My First Bus Ride 7:45
12. The Mushy Part 2:43
13. A Gift And A Curse 5:48
14. On A Flying Boat 3:08
15. Train Escape 1:48
16. Ancient Memories 2:47

Disc Two

1. Evy Remembers 4:04
2. Sand Castles 3:46
3. We�re In Trouble! 2:19
4. Path Of Death 1:51
5. Haunted Jungle 1:52
6. Pygmy Attack 3:44
7. Racing The Sun 2:31
8. Come Back Evy 4:54
9. Sand Warriors Unleashed 8:42
10. Everybody Fights 5:31
11. Finale / Happy Ending 5:57
12. End Credits 2:26
13. Forever May Not Be Long Enough 3:50
14. Just An Oasis (Album Version) 1:25
15. The Mummy Returns (Album Suite) 7:44



A WARNING:
Once the links expire, I won�t upload it again, someone else has to do that (maybe by creating mirrors?)

Links:


http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/WAUWKWRF/EbertLovedIt.part1.rar_links
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1RL8FOLG/EbertLovedIt.part2.rar_links
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/1NQIQOFH/EbertLovedIt.part3.rar_links

Password:

Unfinished_CGI

MEGA Links kindly provided by pat498 (http://forums.ffshrine.org/member.php?u=876155):

https://mega.nz/#!ZFMy2aAK!pIx3BcjambVv9chC2YR2M9ufnbSgX2GYO7GvPgpUPP4

A SUGGESTION:
Use JDownloader instead of a browser to download this. That way, you can circumvent ads and potentially dangerous stuff.

Jensen52
03-14-2016, 08:17 AM
Huge thanks for this beauty!

Ivanova
03-14-2016, 09:16 AM
This is amazing, Sonic! Any hope of you doing a 2.0 Deluxe Edtion of the first Mummy score to match this? I'd be especially interested to see what artwork you come up with as well, to match with your cool heiroglyph design, which I far prefer to the photoshop movie poster one -- yours is much classier!

SonicAdventure
03-14-2016, 09:35 AM
This is amazing, Sonic! Any hope of you doing a 2.0 Deluxe Edtion of the first Mummy score to match this?

Though I rarely do that, I actually might in this case ;)


I'd be especially interested to see what artwork you come up with as well, to match with your cool heiroglyph design, which I far prefer to the photoshop movie poster one -- yours is much classier!

I did not design it myself, someone at Universal did that for a compilation or so. And don�t get your hopes up, there isn�t any cool material for both movies available.

ivanovabr
03-14-2016, 09:44 AM
Awesome! Thank you! :D

rapidow
03-14-2016, 10:21 AM
Many thanks for this score I don't know very well...

marek666
03-14-2016, 10:36 AM
Thanks for your work !

trakkboi
03-14-2016, 11:02 AM
Lol at those part titles and that password! Very nice work, Sonic!

Fink
03-14-2016, 11:13 AM
I loveit of course, and now i truly love the covers, I never expected back covers to be as good as this!

SonicAdventure
03-14-2016, 11:15 AM
I loveit of course, and now i truly love the covers, I never expected back covers to be as good as this!

Really?? Didn�t I give them to you some days ago already? I thought I did... my bad.

Fink
03-14-2016, 11:17 AM
Ahah no you didn't, but now they re miiiiine ^^

Minnasan
03-14-2016, 11:33 AM
Thank you very much! I like a lot this score so I'm very happy to listen to it with your improved sound!

djdom
03-14-2016, 11:36 AM
Thanks, great work.

Marcin24
03-14-2016, 11:59 AM
Thank you very much Sonic! :)

corysun
03-14-2016, 12:35 PM
Awesome!
Thank you very much.

Petros
03-14-2016, 12:41 PM
Thank you so much for your great work, Sonic!

ostgems
03-14-2016, 12:50 PM
thank you sonic.

i really appreciate the notes. other folks should take note on how to present these remastered editions.

ubhank48
03-14-2016, 01:07 PM
Thanks very much

algonrei
03-14-2016, 01:27 PM
Good job!!

Tiesto
03-14-2016, 02:56 PM
Thanks so much !

Calidoran
03-14-2016, 03:03 PM
Will be interesting to compare to the original "complete" version :) thanks!

G
03-14-2016, 03:18 PM
Thanks

PeterJJ
03-14-2016, 03:18 PM
great...another deluxe edition.....can't wait to give it a listen...thx

NefMor
03-14-2016, 03:42 PM
Thanks for your work on this project and for sharing it.

FilmScore1978
03-14-2016, 03:47 PM
Thank you for your time and effort that you put into these deluxe editions, I always enjoy listening to them.

LeSamourai
03-14-2016, 03:54 PM
Thanks, SonicAdventure!

Krafty
03-14-2016, 04:07 PM
Has anyone else ran into an issue with extraction? I keep getting 'the contents of the file "EbertLovedIt.part1.rar" can not be extracted with this program' message. Same for the other two parts. This is usually not the case with any download so I'm baffled as to what this could be. :(

Machionic
03-14-2016, 04:07 PM
Much obliged for this work, thank you!

solo3827
03-14-2016, 04:08 PM
Anybody else having problems extracting the RAR files? I've downloaded them 4 times, each from a different service, have used three extractors and keep getting errors claiming "it could not be extracted/RAR file is damaged."
Just for info, on a Mac and have tried Unarchiver, StuffitExpander and UnRarX. Thanks for any help!

Machionic
03-14-2016, 04:11 PM
It was fine for me. No problems extracting and I used JDownloader.

henmancini
03-14-2016, 04:13 PM
Thanks for your great work!

PeterJJ
03-14-2016, 04:14 PM
no problems extracting with winrar...

SonicAdventure
03-14-2016, 04:21 PM
Has anyone else ran into an issue with extraction? I keep getting 'the contents of the file "EbertLovedIt.part1.rar" can not be extracted with this program' message. Same for the other two parts. This is usually not the case with any download so I'm baffled as to what this could be. :(


Anybody else having problems extracting the RAR files? I've downloaded them 4 times, each from a different service, have used three extractors and keep getting errors claiming "it could not be extracted/RAR file is damaged."
Just for info, on a Mac and have tried Unarchiver, StuffitExpander and UnRarX. Thanks for any help!

You both need a an app that can work with RAR format 5.0. I chose this intentionally for reliability and compression reasons, it�s available since 2013 and most programs should have been updated by now.

guntherl
03-14-2016, 04:38 PM
Great!!

FilmScore1978
03-14-2016, 04:42 PM
You both need a an app that can work with RAR format 5.0. I chose this intentionally for reliability and compression reasons, it�s available since 2013 and most programs should have been updated by now.

Thanks for posting this because I was scratching my head trying to figure out what I had done wrong. I have not updated winRAR since 2012, guess it is time.

solo3827
03-14-2016, 04:50 PM
You both need a an app that can work with RAR format 5.0. I chose this intentionally for reliability and compression reasons, it�s available since 2013 and most programs should have been updated by now.

Thanks for the info! For those with a Mac, I found and used iZip Unarchiver in the app store. Worked great.

jesxes
03-14-2016, 05:22 PM
Nice 'Egyptian Sound' in a few days with Gods of Egypt and this Return of the Mummy. I think this work by SonicAdventure is priceless. The score by Alan Silvestri is gorgeous, IMO, mantaining the same style with Goldsmith's Mummy, who showed the way.

I hear a hiss/static noise in the background that I do not hear in comparison with the original release. I don't know why.

SonicAdventure
03-14-2016, 05:54 PM
Thanks for posting this because I was scratching my head trying to figure out what I had done wrong. I have not updated winRAR since 2012, guess it is time.

I know the feeling... :)

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Thanks for the info! For those with a Mac, I found and used iZip Unarchiver in the app store. Worked great.

Great suggestion, thanks!

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Nice 'Egyptian Sound' in a few days with Gods of Egypt and this Return of the Mummy. I think this work by SonicAdventure is priceless. The score by Alan Silvestri is gorgeous, IMO, mantaining the same style with Goldsmith's Mummy, who showed the way.

I hear a hiss/static noise in the background that I do not hear in comparison with the original release. I don't know why.

There might be some hiss revealed now since I changed the frequency response. I don�t find it disturbing as the sound still is clear and crisp. The noise was already there on the OST, it just was buried.

djdom
03-14-2016, 05:56 PM
I have RAR 5.0 but don't work.

James (The Disney Guy)
03-14-2016, 06:09 PM
Excellent! I Love This Score & Film! Thanks Sonic, I Love These Deluxe Editions They Sound & Are Presented Perfectly!

vje11
03-14-2016, 06:14 PM
Thanks a lot Sonic

djdom
03-14-2016, 06:20 PM
My fault, now is OK.

charliemarno
03-14-2016, 06:24 PM
Amazing!! I love the albumart with the key and the cat, the back with the pyramid and the tray with the hieroglyph. Thank you very much for this edition and the jdownloader suggestion!!

kazamer
03-14-2016, 06:37 PM
Thanks

Lost-Sith
03-14-2016, 07:52 PM
Thanks for your work on this project and for sharing it. SuperPsyched!!!

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-14-2016, 07:59 PM
Awesome stuff!

I think I heard they're remaking this series again.

liveorletdie
03-14-2016, 08:02 PM
Huge thanks!

heidl
03-14-2016, 09:26 PM
I just want to clarify that my only contribution to this truly magnificent(!) Deluxe Edition was a facebook note � la "Make that shit brighter, warmer colours!".

And Sonic, humble as always, credits me for that one lazy ass comment.

Man!

https://media.giphy.com/media/hg49eqKdEEcnu/giphy.gif

raybond
03-14-2016, 09:34 PM
Thanks Sonic. Another classy release.

SonicAdventure
03-14-2016, 10:02 PM
Awesome stuff!

I think I heard they're remaking this series again.

Yeah, upon reading about that, my cynicism went full throttle :)

BTW, a few seconds ago I noticed your Location in your profile for the first time. It�s funny: today I bought all first four Batman movies on Bluray. I really can�t wait to see the fourth again, the colours will probably blow up the TV.

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I just want to clarify that my only contribution to this truly magnificent(!) Deluxe Edition was a facebook note � la "Make that shit brighter, warmer colours!".

:D Actually, you said something like "There�s a halo around the characters heads - and that halo is blue. And then there�s the background of the other one, it has very cool colours compared to the key inside." - Then I said: "Yeah, that halo... but it�s grey with all my screens. And that�s a cool background?�$!?&%?!? IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COPPER!!" Little did I know that you were suffering from work-related "bad-screen-illness" ;) ;)

Which is good - cause I never see bad screens *arrogance mode on* mine are all calibrated *arrogance mode off*

But dear, your major contribution is the font. Without you, I would have used Trajan - again! Now thanks to you I have a very small Star Wars reference within both covers. Which, incidentally, can also be found within the sound. Fortuitousness? Purpose? Who knows? "The Shadow knows... hahahaha"

justancient
03-14-2016, 10:10 PM
Thanks Sonic! This is a great choice for a deluxe edition. Best part about shitty movies is that after a while, their soundtracks become liberated. I can barely remember a single thing about this tepid film, and instead get to imagine whatever the hell I want. As much as I love stuff like Star Wars, it is so good that's its impossible to imagine anything other than star wars while listening to it. Rant over. Huge thanks!

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-14-2016, 10:13 PM
Yeah, upon reading about that, my cynicism went full throttle :)

BTW, a few seconds ago I noticed your Location in your profile for the first time. It�s funny: today I bought all first four Batman movies on Bluray. I really can�t wait to see the fourth again, the colours will probably blow up the TV.

It's not grand or epic, but it's got its aesthetic values and charms.

If you ever get a chance, get a pair of ChromaDepth 3D glasses to watch it.
The neon highlights for some of the scenes are perfect for CD3D.
But, the general color design of the movie also helps CD3D perception.

theodred27
03-14-2016, 10:55 PM
thank you for that. These 2 mummy scores are quite something.
I remember there was a 3rd movie with some cheesy yetis in it. The movie kinda suck in my memories but how was the score?

theFUZZ008
03-15-2016, 12:12 AM
Greatest day of my life. Thank you!

horrorguy03
03-15-2016, 12:23 AM
Still can't unlock those files, tried downloading several rar programs on my mac. HELP?

tangotreats
03-15-2016, 12:29 AM
I can only echo the positive sentiments spoken in this thread; there are crappy amateur "remastering" attempts waiting around every corner (and, as is customary in the kingdom of the blind, legions of people lining up to worship the one-eyed king) but this is emphatically not one of them. I have come to trust SA's work; the consistent quality speaks for itself, but also worth mentioning are the insightful but transparent and honest remastering notes.

A handful of criticisms, if I may... failing to credit the orchestra - London's premiere session orchestra of the time - is unforgiveable. I do very much like the artwork, but find a number of aspects including that omission that grate more than perhaps they should! Offering the orchestrators' credit as "M. MCKENZIE", etc is odd and takes on an air of disrespectfulness when everybody else - even the music editor - is credited by their full names. Finally, why do we need fake barcodes, nebulous "record labels" (WrG records isn't an imprint of Deutsche Grammophon, I'm guessing) and bizarre copyright declarations? That's the kind of thing I used to do when I was ten and selling little pouches of washing up liquid to my neighbours and making big, important sounding labels filled with crap like "DAN'S INTERNATIONAL TRADING CONSORTIUM PLC, LTD, PTY GmBH" and "OFFICIAL SUPPLIER OF WASHING UP LIQUID TO HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II, (C) (R) 1993 TM A REGISTERED TRADEMARK OF DANCORP PLC ALL RIGHTS RESERVED"... ;)

SA: I owe you an email... I'm so sorry about just vanishing as I did. I hope you'll forgive me. I committed the perennial sin of planning a grandiose response and not sending it until it was done, but never having enough time to perfect it and therefore never sending it. We talked about that early on. My sincerest apologies.)

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-15-2016, 12:37 AM
Still can't unlock those files, tried downloading several rar programs on my mac. HELP?

Someone mentioned iZip:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/izip-unarchiver-rar-7z-zip/id717545828?mt=12

The problem with using any RAR version of 2.9 or greater is that not a lot of software developers took any care into what extracting library they used:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAR_%28file_format%29#Extracting_RAR_files

An older version of the unrar source was the basis for an obsolete free software unarchiving library called "unrarlib", licensed under the GPL, but it could only decompress archives created by RAR versions prior to 2.9. Archives created by RAR 2.9 and later use different formats not supported by this library.

JDownloader probably uses that crap. I frequently get extraction errors and have to go in manually with official WinRAR (on Windows) to extract without error.

Other Mac apps that "supposedly" support RAR5:
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/5169-winrar-for-mac.html
https://macitbetter.com/downloads/

The only time I experience extraction issues with third-party products (JDownloader, especially).
I have not really tried 7zip or offiical WinZip on any archives using RAR2.9 or greater.

theFUZZ008
03-15-2016, 12:57 AM
I still can't either. Something is wrong. Using Jdownloader as I always do.

ivanovabr
03-15-2016, 01:09 AM
I still can't either. Something is wrong. Using Jdownloader as I always do.

Try Winrar 5.20. Works fine! ;)

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
03-15-2016, 01:18 AM
I still can't either. Something is wrong. Using Jdownloader as I always do.

Because they use garbage unrar library.

Go into the downloaded folder and extract manually as I mentioned above and use official WinRAR as mentioned below.


Try Winrar 5.20. Works fine! ;)

steve245
03-15-2016, 01:28 AM
Thanks

Lumberg
03-15-2016, 01:33 AM
Thank you!

justancient
03-15-2016, 01:39 AM
7zip wouldn't open it, but winrar did it successfully.

theFUZZ008
03-15-2016, 01:47 AM
Thanks. My Mac is proving to be a pain in the ass. Will keep attempting.

scoreman79
03-15-2016, 02:54 AM
Haven't had a chance to listen to this yet (I will though!), but I wanted to explain something about the score...it WAS recorded and mixed in 2 different places. The last part of the score (once they get to the temple of the scorpion king), was recorded in LA, not London. It's why nothing from that part of the score is on the soundtrack. They were a hurry to finish the movie (also explains why the CGI is so poor).

timeras
03-15-2016, 03:35 AM
Thanks for the share!

reppa35
03-15-2016, 04:56 AM
Thanks SonicAdventure.

SonicAdventure
03-15-2016, 08:51 AM
Thanks Sonic! This is a great choice for a deluxe edition. Best part about shitty movies is that after a while, their soundtracks become liberated. I can barely remember a single thing about this tepid film, and instead get to imagine whatever the hell I want. As much as I love stuff like Star Wars, it is so good that's its impossible to imagine anything other than star wars while listening to it. Rant over. Huge thanks!

I can remember a great many things about the movie. I still loved Rachel Weisz, thought Brendan Fraser looked fat and that you could see his wig, found that Patricia Velazquez had diminished her beauty in just two years by looking a bit more artificial and that the movie was bit tedious to watch - but not as much as Van Helsing 3 years later. I pondered watching it again after years... but instead, I ordered Final Fantasy on Bluray (to replace my DVD) and watched it yesterday :D

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If you ever get a chance, get a pair of ChromaDepth 3D glasses to watch it.
The neon highlights for some of the scenes are perfect for CD3D.
But, the general color design of the movie also helps CD3D perception.

You�re kidding, that works with the fourth? I actually hesitate watching it again... it was made for Kids (and to sell merchandise) and feels so tame/tepid compared to the others. And George Clooney as Batman is... no, I can�t, I really can�t.

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thank you for that. These 2 mummy scores are quite something.
I remember there was a 3rd movie with some cheesy yetis in it. The movie kinda suck in my memories but how was the score?

I never bought it, nor did I listen to it aside from within the movie. I remember being surprised by its quality but then I read that Edelman got sick during production and that someone rescored the end. Or did I read that wrong?

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Someone mentioned iZip:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/izip-unarchiver-rar-7z-zip/id717545828?mt=12

The problem with using any RAR version of 2.9 or greater is that not a lot of software developers took any care into what extracting library they used:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAR_%28file_format%29#Extracting_RAR_files


JDownloader probably uses that crap. I frequently get extraction errors and have to go in manually with official WinRAR (on Windows) to extract without error.

Other Mac apps that "supposedly" support RAR5:
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/5169-winrar-for-mac.html
https://macitbetter.com/downloads/

The only time I experience extraction issues with third-party products (JDownloader, especially).
I have not really tried 7zip or offiical WinZip on any archives using RAR2.9 or greater.

Great suggestions, thank you! :)

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Haven't had a chance to listen to this yet (I will though!), but I wanted to explain something about the score...it WAS recorded and mixed in 2 different places. The last part of the score (once they get to the temple of the scorpion king), was recorded in LA, not London. It's why nothing from that part of the score is on the soundtrack. They were a hurry to finish the movie (also explains why the CGI is so poor).

It was recorded in LA?? That partly explaines the different sound. So far I�ve thought that they recorded it at Lyndhurst or so... I�ve heard about how Stephen Sommers complained two or three years ago about the unfinished CGI (hence the password) and that they didn�t have time to get it done and that he still doesn�t like it to this day.

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A handful of criticisms, if I may... failing to credit the orchestra - London's premiere session orchestra of the time - is unforgiveable. I do very much like the artwork, but find a number of aspects including that omission that grate more than perhaps they should! Offering the orchestrators' credit as "M. MCKENZIE", etc is odd and takes on an air of disrespectfulness when everybody else - even the music editor - is credited by their full names.

:D Valid criticism! I actually included the orchestra and the full names of all orchestrators in initial drafts - but erased the orchestra and shortened first names because I couldn�t make it work on the cover. So it was just done for reasons of having not enough available space.


Finally, why do we need fake barcodes, nebulous "record labels" (WrG records isn't an imprint of Deutsche Grammophon, I'm guessing) and bizarre copyright declarations? That's the kind of thing I used to do when I was ten and selling little pouches of washing up liquid to my neighbours and making big, important sounding labels filled with crap like "DAN'S INTERNATIONAL TRADING CONSORTIUM PLC, LTD, PTY GmBH" and "OFFICIAL SUPPLIER OF WASHING UP LIQUID TO HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II, (C) (R) 1993 TM A REGISTERED TRADEMARK OF DANCORP PLC ALL RIGHTS RESERVED"... ;)

Because I think no cover design is complete without logos and barcodes. I started doing this solely for optical reasons. With many fanmade covers, the lack of those symbols always strikes me as odd, as if the design isn�t complete or half finished. My attempt has always been to design a cover that would look exactly like a cover on a CD you could buy, something that looks like the real thing despite being a fake. That�s why I added all those symbols. On this cover, I even had a DECCA CLASSICS symbol included at first - but again, I couldn�t figure out how to properly place it so it was gone.

And of course, WrG records isn�t an imprint of DG. I just thought "If I�m copying Vareses' Deluxe Edition banner I need to copy something else, too" And so it was the DG logo as I�ve always thought it looked quite beautiful (it actually was the other way around, as you will see below). And when it comes to looks, the bright yellow colour adds some sort of a highlight. At first, many years ago, I used a different logo:





This is a cover I made for a compilation 8 years ago for some sort of competition. Please note that I attempted to use the Telarc logo first. Apart from the tepid and really ugly design (which I liked back then) I didn�t like the looks of this CD. I didn�t like the altered Telarc logo and so I abandoned this idea. Because I had so much fun with this compilation, I entered a second into that competition, of course, not to showcase logos. I just took the opportunity to try for another logo option:





Since it was a compilation containing remixes of score pieces, I decided to copy the design of the first two 'Deutsche Grammophon ReComposed' releases which I loved. For that I had to copy their logos, of course. And since both releases were for a small and private sharing group called "White Rabbit Group" I decided to call it "WrG Records" (again, the lower case "r" is just for optical reasons) to elicit a chuckle out of group members. That�s how those logos were born. None of them were born out of vanity. Only because not one design - to my eyes - is complete without logos and copyright texts. The Deluxe Edition banner was either added for an edition of Goldsmiths' 'Chain Reaction' or for a remastered edition of Horners' 'Casper', can�t remember.


SA: I owe you an email... I'm so sorry about just vanishing as I did. I hope you'll forgive me. I committed the perennial sin of planning a grandiose response and not sending it until it was done, but never having enough time to perfect it and therefore never sending it. We talked about that early on. My sincerest apologies.)

Yes, you do owe me a message :D

When you didn�t answer my last post (nor my last message) I thought "well, I must have done something bad" - and I will forgive you if you answer your messages ;)

And stop planning a grandiose response, just do it! I�m not expecting you to display some 115% literate genius here, I only want a conversation. So, just write something that pops up and press "Submit Reply" :)

Calidoran
03-15-2016, 02:44 PM
I can barely remember a single thing about this tepid film

How about:


... you can shave my head, wax my legs, and use me for a surfboard

:D

55
03-15-2016, 03:48 PM
Thanks for sharing this, Sonic.

feedthecats
03-15-2016, 06:21 PM
Just listened to this, and it sounds miles better than the version I had. Many thanks :)

chongwuxiongmeng
03-15-2016, 06:53 PM
thanks a lot!!!

eggerty
03-15-2016, 08:17 PM
Many thanks Sonic for another wonderful Deluxe Edition.

I've never particularly loved the score (hate the film) but am looking forward to see if your version can make a change.

I also had issues extracting the files. I use 7zip usually and, usually, have no problems. However, before I downloaded something like winrar which i didn't want to since it's trial only I thought I would check my 7zip version. I was using version 9.something. On checking the web I found the latest version was 15.something. Installed that and everything worked fine, so for anyone having problems with 7zip, try updating that first.

SonicAdventure
03-15-2016, 09:52 PM
How about:

... you can shave my head, wax my legs, and use me for a surfboard

:D

Ok, that�s a bit off in a period movie. But I chuckled nonetheless ;)

---------- Post added at 10:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:51 PM ----------


I also had issues extracting the files. I use 7zip usually and, usually, have no problems. However, before I downloaded something like winrar which i didn't want to since it's trial only I thought I would check my 7zip version. I was using version 9.something. On checking the web I found the latest version was 15.something. Installed that and everything worked fine, so for anyone having problems with 7zip, try updating that first.

Great, thanks! And what I always say: update your software, guys ;) (another reason for saything this: LAME MP3 versions as old as 13 years).

Sputnik84
03-15-2016, 11:51 PM
Thanks for another deluxe edition but more importantly for a score I love. I'm excited to hear what you have done with it.

tangotreats
03-16-2016, 12:13 AM
:D Valid criticism! I actually included the orchestra and the full names of all orchestrators in initial drafts - but erased the orchestra and shortened first names because I couldn�t make it work on the cover. So it was just done for reasons of having not enough available space.

Haha, fair do's! I would've said it was more important to know that the Sinfonia of London actually performed (most of) the score rather than that the good people at Joann Kane Music Service was in charge of photocopying the sheet music at the recording sessions. ;)


Because I think no cover design is complete without logos and barcodes. I started doing this solely for optical reasons. With many fanmade covers, the lack of those symbols always strikes me as odd, as if the design isn�t complete or half finished. My attempt has always been to design a cover that would look exactly like a cover on a CD you could buy, something that looks like the real thing despite being a fake.

I can understand that - I think you're underselling yourself, though. You don't have to kid people into thinking they're getting a professionally-made product because they ARE getting a professionally-made product. Actually, they're getting something somewhat better than your average professionally-made product.


And of course, WrG records isn�t an imprint of DG.

I know, I was joking. :D


...the DG logo as I�ve always thought it looked quite beautiful

It does indeed. :)


None of them were born out of vanity.

I would never expect something as shallow from you. :)


And stop planning a grandiose response, just do it!

Message received. :D

thegrizz70x7
03-16-2016, 04:02 AM
thanks Sonic, you're on a roll! Very excited to revisit this score, its been a while!

SonicAdventure
03-16-2016, 06:43 AM
I can understand that - I think you're underselling yourself, though. You don't have to kid people into thinking they're getting a professionally-made product because they ARE getting a professionally-made product. Actually, they're getting something somewhat better than your average professionally-made product.

Thank you. If it wouldn�t be better than the original it came from I wouldn�t even bother releasing it. I mean, if I cannot offer an improvement, what�s the point? And don�t forget: optics are one thing I need to do for myself. So that when I grab a CD from the shelf it will look like the real thing. I hate self-made CDs with a vengeance, usually they look like shit, like... well, self-made. All for the effect that I can mix them with real ones and they won�t stick out like a sore thumb.


I would never expect something as shallow from you. :)

Oh, I can have my vain moments. The logos aren�t but the fact that I�m releasing stuff first and foremost meant only for me, tells you everything. I�ve said it often, I like the attention, it boosts my ego. So there you have vanity ;)

Kynnareth
03-16-2016, 06:49 AM
Thanks!!! Love it.

soundguy28
03-17-2016, 06:57 AM
Thanks Sonic. I'm sure it's great. I just can't get the files to extract on a mac. Tried 4 different apps.

SonicAdventure
03-17-2016, 08:07 AM
Thanks Sonic. I'm sure it's great. I just can't get the files to extract on a mac. Tried 4 different apps.

Look at this post: Thread 201475

the marvin
03-17-2016, 10:31 AM
Thanks! :)

Calidoran
03-17-2016, 03:09 PM
Ok, that�s a bit off in a period movie. But I chuckled nonetheless ;)

You have to admit it though... both of the first two Mummy movies made excellent choices when it came to composers. And they kept the music in style. Some movies (historical and fantasy and such) use far to contemporary music. I have a hard time accepting electric guitars in those kind of movies for example. I'm not saying the music is bad, it just doesn't... fit.

soundguy28
03-17-2016, 06:15 PM
Look at this post: Thread 201475

I did but apparently didn't try all them. BetterZip worked for me. Thanks!

SonicAdventure
03-17-2016, 06:46 PM
You have to admit it though... both of the first two Mummy movies made excellent choices when it came to composers. And they kept the music in style. Some movies (historical and fantasy and such) use far to contemporary music. I have a hard time accepting electric guitars in those kind of movies for example. I'm not saying the music is bad, it just doesn't... fit.

There�s nothing comparable to the sound of electric guitars and power anthems, nothing else that causes the balls of male adolescents to swell just like that ;) Music from Goldsmith, Silvestri and the like is for whiney pussies.

No, I will say that the music is bad. Bad in the sense of regurgitating the same style all over and over and over and over and over again. I�ve really tried to listen to Terminator:Genisys, Mad Max: Fury Road or Clash of the Titans. But I couldn�t bear it, the same all over again, miniscule changes in orchestration combined with a big sound trying to hide the lack of character or genuine ideas. I guess, I�m getting old.

GusMac
03-18-2016, 02:25 AM
Thanks for sharing your work!

T4oS
03-18-2016, 06:50 AM
Oh, thank you SO MUCH for this Deluxe Edition!

Kobayashi-Maru
03-18-2016, 06:59 PM
Thank you for your work!

pat498
03-22-2016, 10:18 PM
Very good Job!
Thank you very much!

Soundman2
03-23-2016, 03:12 AM
Where should I be downloading the Jdownloader software. I went to http://jdownloader.org/ and downloaded the software and when I installed it I got 2 virus detected. Guess that wasn't the right site. So far every download I have tried has failed from the mirrorcreator site. Can someone direct me to the a link that works.

Thank you....

55
03-23-2016, 03:42 AM
Nice job, as always. Thank you.

pat498
03-23-2016, 09:39 AM
One re-up using a mega link:
https://mega.nz/#!ZFMy2aAK!pIx3BcjambVv9chC2YR2M9ufnbSgX2GYO7GvPgpUPP4

Soundman2
03-23-2016, 11:11 AM
Thank you Sonic and thank you pat498 for the re-up...

SonicAdventure
03-23-2016, 11:15 AM
One re-up using a mega link:
https://mega.nz/#!ZFMy2aAK!pIx3BcjambVv9chC2YR2M9ufnbSgX2GYO7GvPgpUPP4

Fantastic! :)

Pablo82
03-23-2016, 09:36 PM
Thousand thanks Sonic!!!... I really appreciate your job!!!... :)

Oh... Many thanks pat498 for Mega link!!!...
I had not realized and already I downloaded!!! ...

Flavioya
03-24-2016, 04:22 AM
Thanks!!

Yen_
03-27-2016, 01:35 AM
Many thanks for your excellent work Sonic.

castas
03-27-2016, 10:52 AM
Thank you

thegrizz70x7
04-08-2016, 12:20 AM
thanks a million for that reup link! I kept having trouble downloading these files (even after getting jdownloader)

em900
04-24-2016, 08:33 AM
thank you

thefieldster
04-24-2016, 01:53 PM
Many thanks for this one SonicAdventure- ten years ago I owned the two CD bootleg copy iof this score (Which I rather think is one of Silvestri's best, imho!), but it was stolen off me in Madrid, along with my CD player- I have often wondered what the 'ladron' thought when he played this score ... and now I finally have it back!!!!

SonicAdventure
04-25-2016, 01:24 AM
Many thanks for this one SonicAdventure- ten years ago I owned the two CD bootleg copy iof this score (Which I rather think is one of Silvestri's best, imho!), but it was stolen off me in Madrid, along with my CD player- I have often wondered what the 'ladron' thought when he played this score ... and now I finally have it back!!!!

When was this and what was the model of the player? I ask because in case it was a portable CD player, the thief indeed was quite dumb since portable players had already been replaced by smaller and more convenient portables (like iPod) 10 years ago :)

blackie74
09-24-2016, 02:54 PM
thanks

oosoul
05-11-2017, 11:38 PM
One re-up using a mega link:
https://mega.nz/#!ZFMy2aAK!pIx3BcjambVv9chC2YR2M9ufnbSgX2GYO7GvPgpUPP4

Thanks!!!!!

Namtab102
05-13-2017, 07:45 AM
Thanks for your work! Can't wait to give this a listen!

Hitch_Cock
05-13-2017, 09:16 AM
Thanks!

sunbird76
06-29-2017, 12:17 PM
Thanks Sonic!

Saltyb
06-29-2017, 05:54 PM
Thank you very much!

m.a. de hoyos
06-29-2017, 07:05 PM
Thanks for this music in Flac.

kooke
08-29-2017, 04:04 PM
I�m very happy with the result � quite something as I�m never really happy with something. It will sound very colourful, it will sound well anywhere, you will love it, I�m sure.

You're right, I'm loving it. I can't compare it with the OST, as I accidentally wiped out most of the Silvestri albums (along with Goldsmith, Horner and others... that was a sad day!), but this feels good, and has passed the almost-asleep test: it was an intermitent dreamy pleasure to have it playing in those conditions. :)

Thanks for another Deluxe, Sonic, and also for the information. I agree with ostgems and tangotreats on the appreciation of the notes. And thanks to pat498 too, for the new link.

joefranklin
01-21-2018, 05:32 AM
Thank you, SonicAdventure and pat498!

epicfan
01-21-2018, 09:35 AM
Thank you so much!

Pagemaster
03-23-2018, 02:35 AM
Thank you! :)

scorecrazy69
03-25-2018, 08:40 AM
Thanks, as always!

Fjnanfag
09-11-2018, 09:12 AM
Thank you.