TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 08:09 PM
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Covers courtesy of the ever-artistic Mr. Gold and Jasonjhn8.

58 tracks | ALAC | Password = score (https://mega.nz/#!OF8CVCyZ!Ncv60NVYBuNxSQjtU_tLp-vYkmxr5Fnui8CNwMMn1qE)

I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶,̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶l̶e̶f̶t̶ ̶s̶c̶r̶a̶t̶c̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶h̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶o̶w̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶a̶r̶e̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶y̶e̶t̶.̶ Never mind, these are the "studio masters" that popped up a few years ago. Surprised that so few people seem to have been aware of this existing. As far as I can tell this is true lossless.

In any case... the tracklist is as follows:
The Dark Knight
Bank Robbery
Find the Batman
Buyer Beware
Dirty Cash
The New DA
Hostile Witness
Bank Warrants / LSI Holdings
Who Appointed Batman?
Move the Money
Kill the Batman
Halfway to Hong Kong
Trip to Hong Kong
Put a Smile on that Face
LSI Extraction
Mobsters Taken to Justice
Are You Up to It?
A Hero with a Face
Joker Crashes the Party
Panic Room
You're Gonna Love Me
Watch the World Burn
Loud Enough?
Speech Ambush
Dent to Van
Gordon Is Dead
Rachel Next
Interrogating Schiff
Interrogating Schiff (Alternate)
Blood on My Hands
The Outcast
I Am the Batman
Truck Convoy
Pod Deploy
Batman Down
We Gotcha
Gordon Returns Home
You Complete Me
Wired
Harvey Two-Face
This is My City
Hospital Bomb Scare A
Hospital Bomb Scare B
Explosion Aftermath
Dent Kills Wertz
Sonar System
Unlucky Driver
The Ferries
Always a Catch
Storming Pruitt Building
Give it to Me
A Little Push
Eye for an Eye
Dent Defeated
I'm Not a Hero
A Dark Knight
The End
The Batman


(n.b.; I may or may not have changed some track titles around; if anyone has slates for this it'd be nice if those could be posted here; the slates I found were sort of confusing)

James (The Disney Guy)
10-14-2015, 08:10 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/YPIrsRqqO7oB2/giphy.gif

THANK YOU DEARIE!!!!

TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 08:11 PM
↑↑↑

The perfect start to a perfect thread.

Nightmare27
10-14-2015, 08:13 PM
Awesome job. Can't thank you enough.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You, I thank.
You get the picture.

Jasonjhn8
10-14-2015, 08:14 PM
^This. :)

And I have to spread some rep around. I swear this is the most annoying aspect of this website...

Anyways, thanks so much!!! :D

Gunchips
10-14-2015, 08:18 PM
Thanks a lot :)

James (The Disney Guy)
10-14-2015, 08:20 PM
And I have to spread some rep around. I swear this is the most annoying aspect of this website...

^
I Know Right!? Jeeze

IOU 1 Skelly!

Imperivm
10-14-2015, 08:24 PM
WOW! That's awesome stuff! :D Thanks TheSkeletonMan939 for this share and Mr.Gold and Jasonjhn8 for the covers!

DjawadiFan
10-14-2015, 08:32 PM
I used to have this in FLAC. But never checked if it's true lossless or not. Thank you anyways, Skelly. :)


Here are the complete slates and proper credits of this score. DAK gave it to me, a while ago. It's legit, I believe.

1m00 LOGO
Hans Zimmer
1m1 BANK ROBBERY
Hans Zimmer
1m2 FIND THE BATMAN
Hans Zimmer
1m3 BUYER BEWARE
Hans Zimmer
1m4 DIRTY CASH (UNUSED)
James Newton Howard
1m5 THE NEW DA
James Newton Howard
1m6 HOSTILE WITNESS
James Newton Howard
1m7 BANK WARRANTS - LSI HOLDINGS
James Newton Howard
2m9 WHO APPOINTED BATMAN?
James Newton Howard
2m9 WHO APPOINTED BATMAN? (ALT)
James Newton Howard
2m10 MOVE THE MONEY
Hans Zimmer
2m11 KILL THE BATMAN
Hans Zimmer
2m12 HALFWAY TO HONG KONG (UNUSED)
James Newton Howard
2m13 TRIP TO HONG KONG
Hans Zimmer
2m14 PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE
Hans Zimmer
2m16 LSI EXTRACTION
Hans Zimmer
2m17 MOBSTERS TAKEN TO JUSTICE
James Newton Howard
2m18 ARE YOU UP TO IT?
James Newton Howard
3m20-21 A HERO WITH A FACE
James Newton Howard
3m22 JOKER CRASHES THE PARTY
Lorne Balfe
3m23 PANIC ROOM
Lorne Balfe
3m24-25 YOU'RE GONNA LOVE ME
Hans Zimmer
3m26-27 WATCH THE WORLD Burn
Hans Zimmer
3m28 LOUD ENOUGH
Hans Zimmer
3m30 SPEECH AMBUSH
Hans Zimmer
3m32A DENT TO VAN
James Newton Howard
3m32B GORDON IS DEAD
Hans Zimmer
4m34-35 RACHEL NEXT
James Newton Howard
4m37-38 INTERROGATING SCHIFF
James Newton Howard
4m37-38 INTERROGATING SCHIFF (ALT)
James Newton Howard
4m39A BLOOD ON MY HANDS
James Newton Howard
4m39B THE OUTCAST
Lorne Balfe
4m40 I AM THE BATMAN
James Newton Howard
4m41 TRUCK CONVOY
Hans Zimmer
4m42A POD DEPLOY
Hans Zimmer
4m42B BATMAN DOWN
Hans Zimmer
4m43 WE GOTCHA
James Newton Howard
4m44 GORDON RETURNS HOME
James Newton Howard
5m45 YOU COMPLETE ME
Hans Zimmer
5m46-47 WIRED
Hans Zimmer
5m48-49 HARVEY TWO-FACE
James Newton Howard
5m50 THIS IS MY CITY
Hans Zimmer
5m51-52A HOSPITAL BOMB SCARE PT 1
Hans Zimmer
5m52B HOSPITAL BOMB SCARE PT 2
Hans Zimmer
6m53 EXPLOSION AFTERMATH
Hans Zimmer
6m54A DENT KILLS WERTZ
James Newton Howard
6m54B SONAR SYSTEM
Hans Zimmer
6m54C UNLUCKY DRIVER
James Newton Howard
6m55 THE FERRIES
Henry Jackman
6m56 ALWAYS A CATCH
Hans Zimmer
6m57 STORMING PRUITT BUILDING
Lorne Balfe
7m58 GIVE IT TO ME
Henry Jackman
7m59 A LITTLE PUSH
Hans Zimmer
7m60A EYE FOR AN EYE
James Newton Howard
7m60B DENT DEFEATED
Hans Zimmer
7m61 I'M NOT A HERO
Hans Zimmer
7m62 A DARK KNIGHT
Hans Zimmer
103BPM ACTION ICE THEME
Hans Zimmer
HARVEY DENT SUITE
James Newton Howard
NEW BATMAN THEME
Hans Zimmer

TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 08:33 PM
With DAK I always have a slight suspicion about slates... sometimes he likes to make his own up to fill in the blanks. :p

Here's the slates list I found (http://filmcues.blogspot.com.es/2012/09/the-dark-knight.html). I have no clue what all the extra numbers & letters mean.

DjawadiFan
10-14-2015, 08:38 PM
With DAK I always have a slight suspicion about slates... sometimes he likes to make his own up to fill in the blanks. :p

Here are the original source of slates (http://www.hans-zimmer.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=5065&pid=101129) by Hybrid Soldier himself. Haha. lol

---------- Post added at 12:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:37 PM ----------


Here's the slates list I found (http://filmcues.blogspot.com.es/2012/09/the-dark-knight.html). I have no clue what all the extra numbers & letters mean.

Nope. Those are the complete cue sheets.

James (The Disney Guy)
10-14-2015, 08:38 PM
Made An Alt Ver Of My Cover to Include JNH.

*On OP*

TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 08:40 PM
Cool, I replaced the original one at the top of the thread. Thanks for the update. :)

James (The Disney Guy)
10-14-2015, 08:40 PM
No Worries.

DjawadiFan
10-14-2015, 08:41 PM
Made An Alt Ver Of My Cover to Include JNH.

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Nice. Love it. :)

James (The Disney Guy)
10-14-2015, 08:42 PM
Thank You T!

I Was Saying On The Covers Thread When I Saw That Image It Was Shouting "Cover!"

Calidoran
10-14-2015, 08:45 PM
Hmh... what's the matter with you people!? Do something reputation-worthy so i can spread my clicks, which i apparently have to do before i can give some more to Mr OP here ;)

Seriously, thanks a lot for this. I had something that looked complete-ish, but that wasn't lossless :)

kothewto
10-14-2015, 09:46 PM
thanks dude
huge win- mad upgrade

cheers

Fjnanfag
10-14-2015, 10:17 PM
Is this one different from the lossless version that was shared here publicly some time ago (I believe it was 2013)? It has the same track listing.

Thanks anyway for the share.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 10:21 PM
Is this one different from the lossless version that was shared here publicly some time ago (I believe it was 2013)? It has the same track listing.

Thanks anyway for the share.

I didn't get this from this site, so if a true lossless version was shared here in the past then I would suppose they'd be one and the same.

OtNife
10-14-2015, 10:26 PM
Cheers man! :)

Fjnanfag
10-14-2015, 10:35 PM
I didn't get this from this site, so if a true lossless version was shared here in the past then I would suppose they'd be one and the same.

Okay thanks for the info. The sound signature is significantly different from the official releases.

It's a great share regardless.

Vosk
10-14-2015, 11:28 PM
FYI here's an audio check for this...sorry I posted it as a spoiler since it's long...


AUDIOCHECKER v2.0 beta (build 457) - by Dester - [email protected]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Started at: Wednesday, 14. 10. 2015. - 16:13.22
58 files found

01 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-01 The Dark Knight.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

02 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-02 Bank Robbery.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

03 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-03 Find the Batman.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

04 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-04 Buyer Beware.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

05 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-05 Dirty Cash.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

06 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-06 The New DA.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

07 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-07 Hostile Witness.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

08 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-08 Bank Warrants _ LSI Holdings.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

09 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-09 Who Appointed Batman_.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

10 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-10 Move the Money.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

11 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-11 Kill the Batman.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

12 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-12 Halfway to Hong Kong.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

13 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-13 Trip to Hong Kong.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

14 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-14 Put a Smile on that Face.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

15 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-15 LSI Extraction.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

16 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-16 Mobsters Taken to Justice.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

17 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-17 Are You up to It_.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

18 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-18 A Hero with a Face.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

19 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-19 Joker Crashes the Party.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

20 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-20 Panic Room.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

21 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-21 You're Gonna Love Me.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

22 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-22 Watch the World Burn.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

23 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-23 Loud Enough.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

24 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-24 Speech Ambush.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

25 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-25 Dent to Van.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

26 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-26 Gordon Is Dead.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

27 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-27 Rachel Next.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

28 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-28 Interrogating Schiff.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

29 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-29 Interrogating Schiff (Alternate.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

30 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-30 Blood on My Hands.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

31 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-31 The Outcast.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

32 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-32 I Am the Batman.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

33 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\1-33 Truck Convoy.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

34 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-01 Pod Deploy.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

35 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-02 Batman Down.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

36 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-03 We Gotcha.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

37 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-04 Gordon Returns Home.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

38 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-05 You Complete Me.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

39 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-06 Wired.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

40 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-07 Harvey Two-Fac.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

41 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-08 This is My City.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

42 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-09 Hospital Bomb Scare A.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

43 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-10 Hospital Bomb Scare B.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

44 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-11 Explosion Aftermath.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

45 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-12 Dent Kills Wertz.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

46 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-13 Sonar System.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

47 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-14 Unlucky Driver.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

48 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-15 The Ferries.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

49 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-16 Always a Catch.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%

50 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-17 Storming Pruitt Building.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

51 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-18 Give it to Me.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

52 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-19 A Little Push.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

53 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-20 Eye for an Eye.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

54 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-21 Dent Defeated.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

55 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-22 I'm Not a Hero.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

56 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-23 A Dark Knight.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

57 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-24 The End.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

58 -===- F:\New folder (3)\The Dark Knight\2-25 The Batman.wav
Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%

DAKoftheOTA
10-14-2015, 11:32 PM
With DAK I always have a slight suspicion about slates... sometimes he likes to make his own up to fill in the blanks. :p

Here's the slates list I found (http://filmcues.blogspot.com.es/2012/09/the-dark-knight.html). I have no clue what all the extra numbers & letters mean.

Whoa....slow your roll, man :p

I've done that once or twice when there's a single missing slate and you can figure it out by the soure cues. All other slates I have for my scores are legit.

What's the bitrate and sample rate here?

TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 11:34 PM
Aren't your Wall-E slates all hypothetical, though? Or am I being a blockhead?

DAKoftheOTA
10-14-2015, 11:35 PM
Aren't your Wall-E slates all hypothetical, though? Or am I being a blockhead?

Pardon mwah? My WALL-E slates are correct. Any doubt and you can take it up with James P Sullivan.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-14-2015, 11:37 PM
FYI here's an audio check for this...
AUDIOCHECKER

Audiochecker is easy to forge results.
It's been proven, quite a few times, and done that you can take lossless, convert to MP3, burn to CD, and rip to WAV and Audiochecker will call it lossless 100%.

DAKoftheOTA
10-14-2015, 11:38 PM
Audiochecker is easy to forge results.
It's been proven, quite a few times, and done that you can take lossless, convert to MP3, burn to CD, and rip to WAV and Audiochecker will call it lossless 100%.

Wow, what a shitty program. But you're the man for the job. Is this true lossless?

TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 11:39 PM
What's the bitrate and sample rate here?

Lossless and 44.1 kHz. It's the "studio masters" that I've since discovered leaked here a couple years back.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-14-2015, 11:39 PM
I'll have to check some tracks.
But, what Skeleton showed already, assuming those aren't cues you can find on retail OST, it should look hopeful.

DAKoftheOTA
10-14-2015, 11:39 PM
Lossless and 44.1 kHz. It's the "studio masters" that I've since discovered leaked here a couple years back.

I hear there's another set of "studio masters" floating around in 24-bit/48kHz

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-14-2015, 11:40 PM
Lossless and 44.1 kHz. It's the "studio masters" that I've since discovered leaked here a couple years back.

"Uncompressed" as in it has "dynamic range" and not crushed for CD pressing.
Much better to work with for any personal edits of any kind.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 11:42 PM
Pardon mwah? My WALL-E slates are correct. Any doubt and you can take it up with James P Sullivan.

I already did a while ago. He said:


... I worked out the complete cue list with slates up to 4m20.

... I interpreted "worked out" to mean "I think it's right... maybe". Or is it legit?


Audiochecker is easy to forge results.

:this:

Audiocheckers are bullshit.

DAKoftheOTA
10-14-2015, 11:48 PM
And 4m20 is where they stop on my set

TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 11:50 PM
And 4m20 is where they stop on my set

"Worked out" doesn't sound very precise to me.

DAKoftheOTA
10-14-2015, 11:53 PM
Wait, I said that? "Worked out"? I do not remember this. The slates have been publicly posted minus the source cue slates, which are the only missing ones. It's easy to figure them if out a.) you've seen the film and have the slates for all of Newman's score cues and b.) posess common sense :p

1m02s Put On Your Sunday Clothes, 2m08s La Vie En Rose, 2m11s Don't Worry, Be Happy, 2m13s Put On Your Sunday Clothes (Excerpt), 2m15s It Only Takes A Moment

TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 11:55 PM
No, Sulley said that.

Never realized the legit slates were posted somewhere, my mistake. :erm:

Now it all makes sense.

Rord1
10-14-2015, 11:55 PM
Thank you.

DAKoftheOTA
10-14-2015, 11:57 PM
No, Sulley said that.

Never realized the legit slates were posted somewhere, my mistake. :erm:

Now it all makes sense.

http://i.imgur.com/xO7IgPc.gif

TheSkeletonMan939
10-14-2015, 11:58 PM
How dare you.

...

...

http://www.picgifs.com/reaction-gifs/reaction-gifs/abandon-thread-fuck-this-shit/picgifs-abandon-thread-fuck-this-shit-55904.gif

DAKoftheOTA
10-15-2015, 12:05 AM
TDK is actually on AMC right now. Watching while eating my dinner :D

Jasonjhn8
10-15-2015, 12:27 AM
TDK is actually on AMC right now. Watching while eating my dinner :D

Really? Well then I know what I'm about to do!!! :P I would be playing AOE right now, but I'm ripping my newly arrived Charade Intrada CD. :)

---------- Post added at 07:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:11 PM ----------

haha, Oblivion is just ending on FX...

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-15-2015, 12:54 AM
Scanned a few consecutive tracks and they all look lossless.

Only exception would be the "alt" track for "Interrogating Shiff" has a soft cutoff at 20.
Since it's an alternate, there was no reason for them to keep it in original lossless format.
At the time it was created, sure it's lossless. Since it was dropped in favor of something else, the last line of passing this around, they low-passed the alt track and didn't look back.



CBR has cut-off enabled by default.
VBR-0 does not.

Rad�Max
10-15-2015, 12:55 AM
thanks a bunch for this massive upgrade SkeletonMan!!

thanks as well to
T-1000 for the slates & composers credit and to the dynamic duo of Mr.Gold & Jason for the covers! ;)

---------- Post added at 07:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:55 AM ----------

thanks a bunch for this massive upgrade SkeletonMan!!

thanks as well to
T-1000 for the slates & composers credit and to the dynamic duo of Mr.Gold & Jason for the covers! ;)

Jasonjhn8
10-15-2015, 01:00 AM
I killed those people, that's what I can be.
No you can't, your not!
I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be...

Oh the chills...

---------- Post added at 08:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:57 PM ----------


thanks a bunch for this massive upgrade SkeletonMan!!

thanks as well to for the slates & composers credit and to the dynamic duo of Mr.Gold & Jason for the covers! ;)

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/high_five_stephen_colbert.gif

DjawadiFan
10-15-2015, 01:08 AM
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/high_five_stephen_colbert.gif

Haha. lol

jakegittis
10-15-2015, 01:20 AM
Thanks for the share.

cleatus356
10-15-2015, 01:33 AM
this leaked in lossless a long time ago...here is the thread:


Thread 88319

samy013
10-15-2015, 01:41 AM
Thank you share!

DAKoftheOTA
10-15-2015, 01:47 AM
this leaked in lossless a long time ago...here is the thread:


Thread 88319

And all this time I thought these were all transcodes of MP3s.

Don't think it needs to be said, but now that one of my all-time favorite scores is available in lossless in complete form, a film mix is on the way :)

TheSkeletonMan939
10-15-2015, 01:50 AM
this leaked in lossless a long time ago...here is the thread:


Thread 88319

I'm well aware of that now. Surprised that so few people seemed to have this in any case.


And all this time I thought these were all transcodes of MP3s.

Don't think it needs to be said, but now that one of my all-time favorite scores is available in lossless in complete form, a film mix is on the way :)

You haven't done one already?

DAKoftheOTA
10-15-2015, 02:02 AM
You haven't done one already?

'Course I have!

But it's in 224k due to the previous source I worked off of. This one will be fairly easy.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-15-2015, 02:09 AM
Why do you do 224k? Why not VBR-0?

DAKoftheOTA
10-15-2015, 02:17 AM
Why do you do 224k? Why not VBR-0?

Because the previous one was VBR and therefore each track was different. So rather than up convert each track to the nearest bitrate in Audition, I stuck with 224 since that was the average. I'd rather down convert slightly than upconvert. That's a huge no-no in my book. Although some people on here are notorious for it.

I shared it with Jason privately a few months ago, don't know if he ever reported back with a verdict....

TheSkeletonMan939
10-15-2015, 02:21 AM
Ahh, I see.

Agree with you on the matter of upconverting, it's very tacky.

I was once asked to convert a bunch of files from YouTube to FLAC. O_O

Admittedly, it was to preserve as much audio quality as possible, but still... a bit excessive.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-15-2015, 02:33 AM
If you did VBR, that's not "upconverting".

VBR only uses bitrate where bitrate is needed. not bloated.

Very rarely >256 is used in MP3.
Based on the editing, tweaking and final output, using VBR would calculate audio and decide what bitrate is best for each sample of the track.

DAKoftheOTA
10-15-2015, 02:37 AM
Regardless, it doesn't matter anymore. I have it in lossless. And that's that :)

James P.Sullivan
10-15-2015, 03:53 AM
I already did a while ago. I interpreted "worked out" to mean "I think it's right... maybe". Or is it legit?

Haha, go back and re-read my PM if you still have it lol. :p

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It's easy to figure them if out a.) you've seen the film and have the slates for all of Newman's score cues and b.) posess common sense :p

1m02s Put On Your Sunday Clothes, 2m08s La Vie En Rose, 2m11s Don't Worry, Be Happy, 2m13s Put On Your Sunday Clothes (Excerpt), 2m15s It Only Takes A Moment

:this:

There's a few more source cues that need accounting for, which all seem to fit in with my list...

Everything in the following list that has been italicised (sates and cue titles, sometimes just slates, sometimes both) is an assumption, based on the slates we have so far. And so far, it all seems to be adding up and making sense (apart from, obviously, the last few cues which we've never had slates for).

I thought it was rather odd that the first Newman cue was already at 1m9, but then I realised that the four short clips of Hello Dolly that WALL�E has playing as he works at the beginning of the film before the very first Newman cue must have been counted as separate cues. This makes sense when you consider how the same inserts were clearly used throughout the rest of the film (3m8s, 3m9s, 4m2s, 4m12s, etc.). When you go with this idea, everything seems to fit into place nicely.

1m1 Disney Logo
1m2s Put On Your Sunday Clothes
1m3s Put On Your Sunday Clothes (Insert)
1m4s Put On Your Sunday Clothes (Insert)
1m5s Put On Your Sunday Clothes (Insert)
1m6s Put On Your Sunday Clothes (Insert)
1m7 Opening
1m8 Day 2 Wake-Up
1m9 Workday
2m1 Chasing Dots
2m2 Rocket (Ship Lands)
2m3 Love At First Sight
2m4 Ship Leaves
2m5 EVE Flies (Alt.)
2m5 EVE Flies
2m6 EVE Probes / Roach Tickle
2m7 Roach Return
2m8s La Vie En Rose
2m9 EVE Probes 2 / Magnet
2m10 Sandstorm / EVE In Truck
2m11s Don’t Worry, Be Happy (Insert)
2m12 Bubble Wrap
2m13s Put On Your Sunday Clothes (Insert)
2m14 Eye Surgery
2m15s All That Love’s About / It Only Takes A Moment (Insert)
2m16 EVE Takes Plant / Worry Wait
2m17 First Date
3m1 Back To Work / EVE Retrieved
3m2 Space Travel / Axiom
3m3 Rev Docking
3m4 Robot Hallway
3m5 Humanity
3m6 Typing Bot / Bridge
3m7 Meet Captain
3m8s Put On Your Sunday Cloths (Insert)
3m9s Blue Danube (Insert)
3m10 Morning Announcements
3m11 Positive?
3m12s BNL “In” Fanfare
3m13s BNL “Out” Fanfare
3m14 Manual / No Plant
3m15 Discovered
3m16 Define Earth
4m1 Repair Ward
4m2s Put On Your Sunday Clothes (Insert)
4m3 Escape
4m4 Robot Chase / To Pod
4m5 EVE At Pod
4m6 Sit With Me
4m7 Gopher To Pod
4m8 WALL-E’s Pod Adventure
4m9 Space Embrace
4m10 Space Dance
4m11 Pool / Towels
4m12s It Only Takes A Moment (Insert)
4m13 EVE Interrogation
4m14s Put On Your Sunday Cloths (Insert)
4m15s It Only Takes A Moment (Insert)
4m16 EVE’s WALL-E FB
4m17 MO / Water Plant
4m18s BNL Long Fanfare
4m19 Directive A-113
4m20 Down The Tube
Find EVE In Trash
MO Rescue
Fixing WALL-E
Rogue Robots
Halt! / Come And Get It
To The Lido Deck
March Of The Gels
Tilt
Also Sprach Zarathustra / The Holo-Detector
Hyperjump
Desparate EVE
Static
It Only Takes A Moment
Down To Earth
Horizon 12.2

Hope that all makes sense. :p

GreatKenji
10-15-2015, 05:45 AM
Thanks!

Momonoki
10-15-2015, 06:18 AM
Oh cool, another verison of the masters.

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Not all of the cues in that are from the same place. Some are cutoff, some are lossless, some are transcodes.

YOUR 2m12 (Halfways to Hong Kong)


MY 2m12 (resampled from 48kHz to 44.1 to match yours)


See the difference? Mine's not cutoff. It's not mastered, quieter, more reminsicent of a true session cue.
This is just another compilation of stuff from various places. Most of it isn't true sessions. And is transcoded/mastered/cutoff.

Wait for Dak's film mix. I gave him the (real) sessions for it.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-15-2015, 12:35 PM
Wait for Dak's film mix. I gave him the (real) sessions for it.

:awsm:

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Hope that all makes sense. :p

Now it all does. :p

corysun
10-15-2015, 01:08 PM
Awesome! thanks for sharing.

My cover art work:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/corysun/Share%20photo/The%20Dark%20Knight%20Complete%2021200_zpssw3au8py .jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/corysun/media/Share%20photo/The%20Dark%20Knight%20Complete%2021200_zpssw3au8py .jpg.html)

( .html)

DAKoftheOTA
10-16-2015, 02:43 AM
I guess my speculation wasn't total bs. This has yet to surface in pure lossless.

Anyway, wait for my film mix. It will be 16-bit/44.1kHz. But it's 100% lossless. FLAC. I've already started working on it a few days ago.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-16-2015, 02:45 AM
Anyway, wait for my film mix. It will be 16-bit/44.1kHz. But it's 100% lossless. FLAC. I've already started working on it a few days ago.

Well, you know who to call if you need something ripped directly from the sound mix...

DAKoftheOTA
10-16-2015, 02:52 AM
Well, you know who to call if you need something ripped directly from the sound mix...

I do, actually. 1m00 Logo. It's different in the film than the raw sessions version. I'd like it ripped at 24/48 for my own personal use and I'll convert it to 16/44 for my film mix.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-16-2015, 04:04 AM
:awsm:


:this:

Nightmare27
10-16-2015, 05:04 AM
OK so there are still several cues that aren't "True" lossless or someone has the real one? DAK?

DAKoftheOTA
10-16-2015, 05:07 AM
OK so there are still several cues that aren't "True" lossless or someone has the real one? DAK?



I'll only be posting my film mix, not the raw thing. Film mix is superior.

Nightmare27
10-16-2015, 05:26 AM
Looking forward to it

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-16-2015, 06:16 AM
Looking forward to it

:this:

Number 112
10-16-2015, 07:38 AM
OK so there are still several cues that aren't "True" lossless or someone has the real one? DAK?

Yes... Here (http://chiefdundee.blogspot.fr/2015/09/the-dark-knight-complete-score-hans.html) !

mr_peewinkle
10-16-2015, 09:52 AM
Thanks for offering this in ALAC! It's very much appreciated!

DAKoftheOTA
10-16-2015, 09:28 PM
Yes... Here (http://chiefdundee.blogspot.fr/2015/09/the-dark-knight-complete-score-hans.html) !

That is atrocious. Who the F combines cues and makes a 24-minute track? Ridiculous. Plus that one is not true lossless. Repeating myself again here, wait for my film mix

James (The Disney Guy)
10-16-2015, 09:33 PM
wait for my film mix

I Eagrly Await This, Its Painful Having to Wait.... But Pain Make You Stronger...
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Joker-Yelling-Hit-Me-The-Dark-Knight.gif


That is atrocious. Who the F combines cues and makes a 24-minute track? Ridiculous. Plus that one is not true lossless. Repeating myself again here

http://media.giphy.com/media/F9yAvk7Xpr0c/giphy.gif

DAKoftheOTA
10-16-2015, 09:38 PM
^Like ;)

I'm actually working on it right now. I should be taking a nap since I'm exhausted from work this week, but I'd like to finish it and post it for everyone.

James (The Disney Guy)
10-16-2015, 10:02 PM
I Thought You Would LOL.

*Boy Didn't Realise How Much I Missed Posting A Gif Response to Things LOL*
http://38.media.tumblr.com/9f22ada61a738cf4d471c6048e3f690a/tumblr_mlsa9wwpy51s1oepdo1_500.gif
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VJTApbpLQqw/UZTm0YBHcxI/AAAAAAAADpI/YsAC5tf_frI/s1600/batman+the+dark+knight+rises+gif+joker+gif+catwoma n10.gif


I'm actually working on it right now.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/762e63ed574857f66c1fc96e77709787/tumblr_n11sq7Dr2f1swjg2mo3_500.gif


I should be taking a nap since I'm exhausted from work this week, but I'd like to finish it and post it for everyone.
http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4iw006gVq1rwcc6bo1_500.gif

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I Made Myself Another Dark Knight Cover For When The FILM MIX Is Posted :D
I Have Batman (Solo) For The OST, Batman & Joker For The Sessions So Wanted Joker (Solo) For This. I Posted It Just Incase Anyone Wanted for This Collection Or To Just Use It For Any... Hope You Like, And I Also Made An Alternative Version (But I Prefer The First ;) )

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And the Last One, A Trio Image Of Batman, Two-Face & Joker
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Click To Enlarge

DAKoftheOTA
10-16-2015, 10:07 PM

kothewto
10-16-2015, 10:23 PM
*salivating*

Number 112
10-17-2015, 01:41 AM
That is atrocious. Who the F combines cues and makes a 24-minute track? Ridiculous. Plus that one is not true lossless. Repeating myself again here, wait for my film mix

Show me where it's not true lossless.

Momonoki
10-17-2015, 01:52 AM
Show me where it's not true lossless.

All of disk 1 is cutoff and has compression artefacts.
Disk 2 is the same except harvey dent suite is cutoff at 15kHz. Might as well not even be music.
Disk 3 is even more cutoff and compressed than disk 1. "Fake lossless" as they say. Looks lossless
to the untrained eyes and ears.
Disk 4 has 2 lossless tracks. The rest is compressed and cutoff.

Beleive me or not, idc. All you have to do is LOOK.

DAKoftheOTA
10-17-2015, 01:54 AM
Show me where it's not true lossless.

post # 60 (Thread 195378). It's all a bunch of transcodes, they're all the same one. I'm not downloading that and wasting my time and HD space. My time is better spent on my film mix (which I'm in the middle of as I type this). Tell you what, you download it and tell me the total file size of just the complete score is. Not the "album" cues or "original" cues and all that extra crap.

Also, what Zaralyth said:


All of disk 1 is cutoff and has compression artefacts.
Disk 2 is the same except harvey dent suite is cutoff at 15kHz. Might as well not even be music.
Disk 3 is even more cutoff and compressed than disk 1. "Fake lossless" as they say. Looks lossless
to the untrained eyes and ears.
Disk 4 has 2 lossless tracks. The rest is compressed and cutoff.

Beleive me or not, idc. All you have to do is LOOK.

Show me where it's true lossless.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-17-2015, 01:57 AM
Show me where it's not true lossless.

When you want to see if something's true lossless, NEVER look at the numbers. Or that AudioChecker thing someone used a few posts back. Spectrograms are your friend.

Number 112
10-17-2015, 02:18 AM
Yes, as I said already here : Thread 195302

If that is not lossless, tell me what is it ?

Momonoki
10-17-2015, 02:28 AM
Yes, as I said already here : Thread 195302

If that is not lossless, tell me what is it ?

The MP3 is more convincing in that post because it goes up to the full spectrum, 22.05kHz. The "Lossless" one is CUTOFF. So infact it
is not lossless.

IF IT'S CUTOFF, IT"S NOT LOSSLESS.
The mp3 looks like V0 or something better to me, maybe even freeformat. But anything MP3 is compressed.



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3m24-25 You're Gonna Love Me


Mine (TOP) VS Yours (BOTTOM)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68272387/Shrine%20Images/Test1.PNG

Which one is lossless.

DAKoftheOTA
10-17-2015, 02:34 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ADX9RtB.gif

Number 112
10-17-2015, 02:37 AM
The MP3 is more convincing in that post because it goes up to the full spectrum, 22.05kHz. The "Lossless" one is CUTOFF. So infact it
is not lossless.

IF IT'S CUTOFF, IT"S NOT LOSSLESS.


Of course yours is better. does that mean that at 22.00 KHz it's not lossless?

Momonoki
10-17-2015, 02:44 AM
Of course yours is better. does that mean that at 22.00 KHz it's not lossless?

Nope. There are also different types of acceptable lossless depending on era, technology used. etc.

If you compare yours to mine, mine is lossless, therefore, your cutoff version cannot be considered lossless.
If the original source material has been recorded that way, (Think Pirates of the Caribbean) then yes, we could
call it lossless. But in this case, no. Since the original material is not cutoff. Yours has been digitally cutoff in
post editing, therefore it is not lossless.

Lossless is a tricky business, really. But anything that is manually cutoff by a program or editing software, is
definitely not lossless. Lossless means there is no loss via compression, cutoff etc etc during recording and post.
But if you vut off the frequencies, well, then that's loss, isn't it? You've lost some quality.
You could argue that it's lossy, but that term is more reserved forcompression. So we call it cutoff..

TheSkeletonMan939
10-17-2015, 02:51 AM
Lossless means there is no loss via compression, etc etc during recording and post.

This is where I begin to draw the line in terms of lossless. Do you consider 16-bit lossless then to not be "true lossless" if there's a 24-bit source?

How about sample rates? Can 48 kHz be considered superior to 44.1 kHz because it's a bigger number?

We're talking about differences so small that a human cannot possibly detect the difference.

I mean... I agree with you about tracks with cutoffs ≠ lossless, but there's only so much higher in terms of quality you can go before it gets ridiculous.

Momonoki
10-17-2015, 02:54 AM
This is where I begin to draw the line in terms of lossless. Do you consider 16-bit lossless then to not be "true lossless" if there's a 24-bit source?

How about sample rates? Can 48 kHz be considered superior to 44.1 kHz because it's a bigger number?

We're talking about differences so small that a human cannot possibly detect the difference.

16, 24 and 32 are all lossless. We're talking about frequencies here, frequencies.
Not bit depth and sample are.. But here's a little info

44.1 is the minimal acceptable sample rate for lossless. (22.05)
Anything less is cutoff (Take GameCube audio for example. Sample rate 32kHz.)
because this day and age 44.1kHz is the standard for recording.

The differences between 16/24 and 44/48/96/192 are minimal, yes. And upsampling is
only good for editing. But something recorded in 192/24 is, yes, superior to 16/44. But they're all lossless formats
in the end.

Number 112
10-17-2015, 02:54 AM
post # 60 (Thread 195378). It's all a bunch of transcodes, they're all the same one. I'm not downloading that and wasting my time and HD space. My time is better spent on my film mix (which I'm in the middle of as I type this). Tell you what, you download it and tell me the total file size of just the complete score is. Not the "album" cues or "original" cues and all that extra crap.

Also, what Zaralyth said:



Show me where it's true lossless.



Nope. There are also different types of acceptable lossless depending on era, technology used. etc.

If you compare yours to mine, mine is lossless, therefore, your cutoff version cannot be considered lossless.
If the original source material has been recorded that way, (Think Pirates of the Caribbean) then yes, we could
call it lossless. But in this case, no. Since the original material is not cutoff. Yours has been digitally cutoff in
post editing, therefore it is not lossless.

Lossless is a tricky business, really. But anything that is manually cutoff by a program or editing software, is
definitely not lossless. Lossless means there is no loss via compression, etc etc during recording and post.
But if you vut off the frequencies, well, then that's loss, isn't it? You've lost some quality.
You could argue that it's lossy, but that term is more reserved forcompression. So we call it cutoff..

In this case it was subtle, but I must admit that I learned something today. Thank you for this lesson, and as someone said: This Proves Well I Should Keep My Mouth Shut. :D

Momonoki
10-17-2015, 02:56 AM
What matters is the compression of the audio itself. Is it pure, ie. lossless, or is it diluded/cutoff/compressed/smashed etc.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-17-2015, 02:59 AM
Anything less is cutoff (Take GameCube audio for example. Sample rate 32kHz.)
because this day and age 44.1kHz is the standard for recording.


Lol, believe it or not Nintendo STILL uses 32kHz as their standard. Wind Waker HD, for example, for the Wii U had streamed audio at 32kHz.

The new Smash Bros. I think was at 48kHz though, so maybe they're finally upgrading to where the rest of the world is. :rolleyes:

Thanks for the lesson though. I walk away a wiser man.

DAKoftheOTA
10-17-2015, 03:00 AM
Everyone raise a toast to Zaralyth on this Friday evening for teaching us something

Momonoki
10-17-2015, 03:02 AM
The new Smash Bros. I think was at 48kHz though, so maybe they're finally upgrading to where the rest of the world is. :rolleyes:

Yep! Smash 4 is 48. Made me really happy :)

Funny though cause in the Super Mario Bros 30th anniversary CD they didn't bother to use the new audio recorded for smash 4.
So it has 32kHz stuff from some of the older games. Lol.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-17-2015, 03:03 AM
Nintendo has rarely been logical in their decision-making, so I suppose we shouldn't be surprised.

DAKoftheOTA
10-17-2015, 03:04 AM
http://i.imgur.com/E6sgmVc.gif

Number 112
10-17-2015, 03:06 AM
http://i.imgur.com/E6sgmVc.gif

;)

Momonoki
10-17-2015, 03:06 AM
The Dark Knight and some other Zimmer Films (Especially Pirates) are intersting. Because while they're technically lossless,
higher frequencies, whether it be the Mic used or postediting, dropoff after 21 to 22kHz. They just fade into silence. So while it
looks cutoff, they're actually just super quiet. So this can trick you. Pirates 3 was recorded that way, though. Some quieter stuff looks
compressed while the rest of the blazing thematic cues look pristine. And that's just how Hans does things, I guess.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-17-2015, 03:12 AM
This is where I begin to draw the line in terms of lossless. Do you consider 16-bit lossless then to not be "true lossless" if there's a 24-bit source?

In that strictest term, it depends.

If the 16bit is created from the 24bit, it's still lossless. But not 100%.
The only thing you lose is precision.

Some "studio masters" will be "uncompressed" (dynamic range) and then get brickwalled for CD pressings.
You lose the DR. So not "lossless" by definitive terms.

But if you convert the uncompressed 24bit to 16bit without changing anything, it's mostly lossless.
Since you can't keep all the 24bit details in a 16bit file, the dither algorithm will mask any artefacts or destruction observed in the downsampling of bit depth.

But, in terms of the "codec", it is essentially lossless.
The only loss you suffer is the process chain.

All scenarios cannot be done without a certain degree of loss.

Now the real question is: Can you hear that loss?

Some Jedi's can. Most normal humans won't. Ever.

Regarding "codecs": (for those who don't know)

FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) is the most updated lossless codec.
If you view the GitHub over at xiph.org for their FLAC development, they're still doing updates and bugfixes to the code.

ALAC (Apple Lossles Audio Codec) is no longer developed.
It went open-source, which means the entire source code is freely available for anyone to download and update it or modify it.
But, no one's doing that. It's never been touched nor picked up by anyone (even in small, remote communities) since it went open-source.

FLAC > ALAC
ALAC is just like any other Apple product/service: Purely convenience!

Momonoki
10-17-2015, 03:17 AM
Thank you for clarifying the things I could not rememeber. I am drugged up in the hospital

Also, who doesn't like brick walling???









jk.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-17-2015, 03:20 AM
The only I would bank "true lossless" on is if it doesn't cut-off.

If the sessions are available in 16bit and 24bit, it doesn't mean only one can be "true lossless".

Given that all this music can come from any source, it means we're liable to see some lossy-sourced tracks, for whatever reasons.
Which we've seen a lot.

DAKoftheOTA
10-17-2015, 03:23 AM
ALAC is just like any other Apple product/service: Purely convenience!

Idk about that. ALAC is to iTunes what FLAC is to VLC.

And my Mac and iPhone are serving me pretty well. Couldn't make all my film edits without my Mac :p

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-17-2015, 03:23 AM
jk.

:smug:

Momonoki
10-17-2015, 03:25 AM
If the sessions are available in 16bit and 24bit, it doesn't mean only one can be "true lossless".

Given that all this music can come from any source, it means we're liable to see some lossy-sourced tracks, for whatever reasons.
Which we've seen a lot.

This^

16 and 24 are interchangable imo. As long as it's not cutoff and compressed, they're both just lossless.

Also about that, I know the source of these transcodes, and the source of my real sessions. Which are
both very different. They're in DAK's hands. He'll do good with them. Everyone will go home happy. You'll
all have the real lossless files.

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
10-17-2015, 03:48 AM
Idk about that. ALAC is to iTunes what FLAC is to VLC.

And my Mac and iPhone are serving me pretty well. Couldn't make all my film edits without my Mac :p

ALAC hasn't been updated forever.

If you look at the changelog to FLAC, there are even security vulnerabilities patched up since Xiph took over the code.
iTunes updates, but the encoding library for AAC, the changes to their library is closed-source and no employee will reveal the changes to their code.
VLC is open-source and updating a lot, too.

But, what I mean is that ALAC is old and deprecated.

I just found out the other day, that ALAC can't handle fake-24bit (17-23 bit stored in 24bit container).
FLAC will take 17-23 bit data and place in 24bit FLAC but zero out the data that's not used. It saves space.

ALAC, on the other hand, cannot do this with 17-23bit. It more or less upscales to full 24bit.
Which is by no means an upgrade of any sort. It's bloated conversion with larger file size for nothing.

Using FLAC.exe, I was able to see it has a bit depth of 17.
With eac3to, I was able to see it has a bit depth of 16!
So likely it's a botched conversion from some crap software.
There was no info on the source, so can't say what it would have been.

If someone was so devout to ALAC as they can be with FLAC, ALAC would be updated to handle scenarios like that.

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And upsampling is only good for editing.

One thing to be careful about, when upsampling is to make sure your resampling software is actually a good one.
Going by open statements or common opinion isn't a reliable way.

Going to this site will show you what resamplers are clean and which ones produce sonic distortion.
http://src.infinitewave.ca/

Right off the bat, Ableton looks far better than "Acon".

And you only need to double the sample rate.
44.1 to 88.2.
48 to 96.

Going higher doesn't make it "better". You risk greater chance of sonic echoing and other noise creation.
When I did a small edit to mix some of the Mad Max deluxe OST (44.1) into the bluray rip (48), I resampled the OST to 176.4 (4x) to get "accurate" editing.
But all it does is create new noise.
I tried a few "good" resamplers and it still produced noise.

The content from HD digital sales sites are more promising to start with since they're already at that rate. Direct from source.


Everyone will go home happy. You'll all have the real lossless files.

Can't wait. I can finally trim down all the various verions I have of this.

DAKoftheOTA
10-17-2015, 03:54 AM
Can't wait. I can finally trim down all the various verions I have of this.

Pretty sure I said this to you only a few days ago (and possibly in another thread), but mine will be the best version yet. Definitive, we'll call it ;)

elemperador
10-17-2015, 03:56 AM
Thanks!

fc14org
10-17-2015, 08:42 AM
Thanks!

reppa35
10-20-2015, 09:23 AM
This is great. Thanks.

Tiesto
10-27-2015, 06:24 PM
Can't wait to hear your film edit DakoftheOTA ! do you have also the Batman begins and Dark knight film edits ?

TheSkeletonMan939
10-27-2015, 06:27 PM
Can't wait to hear your film edit DakoftheOTA ! do you have also the Batman begins and Dark knight film edits ?

DAK's computer is in the shop for the time being; when it's fixed we'll continue working on film edits for TDK and TDKR.

James (The Disney Guy)
10-27-2015, 06:30 PM
If You Need Any Material From the DVDs Let Me Know.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-27-2015, 06:31 PM
If You Need Any Material From the DVDs Let Me Know.

Thanks for the offer, but fortunately I have the audio already and we're working off that.

It's turning out really well, hopefully we'll be able to finish it soon after his Mac is repaired.

James (The Disney Guy)
10-27-2015, 06:32 PM
Thats Cool! No Worries Then

DAKoftheOTA
10-27-2015, 06:33 PM
Can't wait to hear your film edit DakoftheOTA ! do you have also the Batman begins and Dark knight film edits ?

I do have the film edit of BB, but it is not mine. It's Arial's edit. I have no clue how accurate it is, I just saw it was marked as a film edit and grabbed it. I have it in FLAC, but as Skelly said, my Mac is in the shop and therefore it will have to wait.

And I think you mean TDKR, as this thread is TDK - which is what I'm currently working on and will continue working on, should the guys at the shop be able to fix my Mac without having to wipe the HD.

I did do a very minor film mix of TDKR a while back, but it's only in MP3. And I half-assed it. It has yet to surface in FLAC, and that's what's holding me back. The only reason I'm doing TDK is because it's been shared with me in pure lossless. When TDKR is shared with me in pure lossless, only then will I start a proper film mix.

So here's to anyone paying attention! If you wanna privately share TDKR with me in lossless, I'll make a film edit! :D

Tiesto
10-28-2015, 11:17 AM
Perfect, hope your Mac will be fixed without damage, i already lost my HD that was inside my Macbook pro mid 2010, it was pain in the ass !!

Number 112
10-28-2015, 12:11 PM
Mine (TOP) VS Yours (BOTTOM)[/size]
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68272387/Shrine%20Images/Test1.PNG

Which one is lossless.

Sorry for this little off topic but, please, take a look at this :

This is not lossless? right ? yet it is the official Spectre soundtrack in FLAC 24-bit available on this forum. Does someone can explain this mystery?
If now official digital platforms sell almost lossless instead of lossless, I ask myself where is the world headed :D

James (The Disney Guy)
10-28-2015, 12:14 PM
To The Dark Ages.... Next Thing The Electricity Goes Out!

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/video/2012/10/31/NY_power_outage_gif.gif

Number 112
10-28-2015, 12:22 PM
Or I'm right, there is true lossless of more or less high quality ;)

HunterTech
11-22-2015, 08:08 AM
Using Spek, I can say this is around 90-95% lossless. I'm not the best at determining what is what, but that's my say on this matter.

Number 112
11-22-2015, 05:34 PM
95% lossless as you say, there are many official releases like that. Who can tell the difference?

HunterTech
11-22-2015, 07:07 PM
95% lossless as you say, there are many official releases like that. Who can tell the difference?

Indeed. Though I seriously own an album where all the tracks are cut off at 16 khz.

Crispy45
03-30-2016, 01:05 PM
Many thanks for this. Much appreciated

DAKoftheOTA
08-16-2016, 05:36 AM
In reference to making my film mix:


This one will be fairly easy.

Oh DAK, DAK, DAK. You poor bastard. Ignorance is bliss :laugh: :laugh:

yariksheff
01-02-2017, 03:11 PM
Re-up please!;)

landshark23
02-09-2017, 12:27 AM
I would love a reupload

nicmen
02-13-2017, 05:51 PM
Excuse me, re-up please.

PrinceHeir
02-14-2017, 05:11 AM
Reup please! Been listening to Batman songs ever since I started the Arkham games(finished up to Origins, playing Knight right now) and reading the comics( New 52, DC Rebirth).

DeadWalker
02-21-2017, 08:43 PM
Can you do a reup please.

TheSkeletonMan939
02-21-2017, 08:56 PM
I don't have this anymore. Maybe someone else does.

Imperivm
08-18-2018, 08:31 AM
Here's a re-upload of the original files

Enjoy! :D



The Dark Knight (Complete, Lossless)
58 tracks | ALAC | 2:19:32 | 554 MB

Download Here (https://mega.nz/#F!7oFQgYLD!EGkLhH-sWoi2F1wXZvojcQ)

zerfiop
08-31-2018, 02:13 PM
Thank you !

MeMeMerkur
08-31-2018, 06:31 PM
Thank you very much!

enro
09-05-2018, 04:26 AM
Thank you!

centurychild
09-13-2018, 02:55 PM
Thank you!

nicmen
11-14-2018, 04:49 PM
Thank you very much for sharing.

Santa's Little Helper
03-11-2019, 09:15 AM
Thanks for sharing!!