KaFaraqGatri
06-30-2011, 02:12 AM
OK, so as we all know, there are many different versions of Transformers flying around out there, the main ones being:

The commercial score CD
Obviously :)

The 52-track promo
Actually a bootleg that was leaked by someone -- with industry connections -- before the commercial CD came out, who shouldn't have done so. Paramout were pissed about it, apparently. Its about 78 mins long, I think.

The 90-minute bootleg
One of many bootleg pressings to come out of Europe and/or Australia, its 75 tracks long with really boring artwork but its lossy sourced and not complete.

The 72-track bootleg
This is a 2CD set, and a combination of the 52 track promo and this little-known third source...

Warm Butter Design's Isolated DVD Score (http://www.warmbutter.com/dvds/) {clickable}
This was a DVD with the Transformers score in 5.1 sound, presented with a slideshow of images, that was made for Steve Jablonsky. It is clean music in film order, with bonus tracks including alternates and even the trailer music, so technically its the recording sessions.

Now, Warm Butter Design have also released similar DVDs for other movies (X-Men Origins, Prince Caspian, Superman Returns), all of which have leaked to the wider world in some form. Superman Returns is perhaps the most popular one, I think its even posted here somewhere (unless I'm mistaken and its just the complete score thats been going around for a while in lossy - someone probably sourced THAT from the Warm Butter DVD (WBDVD); more on this theory below).

Now, the story goes that the 2CD bootleg is a combination of all of these sources, which means someone out there has the WBDVD . What I don't understand is, why would they cobble it together with the commercial CD and promo instead of just ripping the audio and presenting us with that?

My guess is, that Transformers (music) seems to be pretty hot shit, and the person didn't want to make a straight leak of the WBDVD for fear of more finger-pointing. So by combining it with other sources and leaking that version, anyone glancing at it would think it was another source or set of material. Maybe they renamed a few tracks, and then purposefully left off some of the WBDVD tracks, before converting it to MP3, so its not technically a full leak if anyone spots it. Doing this you can kinda cover your ass - one its incomplete, two its lossy. I guess this is what could have happened with the Superman Returns 2CD that came out a few years ago... that only surfaced in MP3. Suspicious...

Anyway so my question is this: does any kindhearted individual out there have the WBDVD and are willing to rip it to FLAC and share it with us? Of course, its AC3 (lossy) sourced but AC3 5.1 audio encoded at 448k is far better than MP3 and audibly pretty close to CD quality, so ripping it to FLAC would be better than encoding to MP3.

I think its safe to assume someone in our midst has it. Surely enough time has passed now for this to come to light? Everything eventually does, one way or another.

Rad�Max
06-30-2011, 02:18 AM
wow, I'm amazed it could be the real deal?!...finally now if only someone will share that here...

jmn77
06-30-2011, 03:05 AM
Would be nice... but really though, with the OST, the 72 track and Promo combined there isn't that much music that's actually MIA. MOST of what's yet unavailable is music that was already used, but tracked into places in a slight "remixed" manner... mostly the Hoover Dam scenes.

Anyway that having been said, as one who loves complete scores, I would still love to have every bit of it!

The Dimensioner
06-30-2011, 03:18 AM
Oh, hey, you forgot all the fan edits! (But its probably okay because they all took this existing material and didn't even remotely try to generate film version cues, like the "Ultimate Score" I am working on).

I had seen this Warm Butter web site a long time ago, and once or twice I searched some of the track names found in the screen shots to no avail. I know that the Prince Caspian Recording Sessions are also around the Shrine somewhere. They are sucky though, as whoever ripped them didn't rip them at a decent volume and the ends of most of the cues are cut off.

I, too, would like to know if anyone actually possesses this DVD as it almost seems too good to be real. It's pretty bold of you to straight out ask someone to upload this as it will be groundbreaking (that is, if it really does contain music not heard before). I hope this thread gets more attention!

KaFaraqGatri
06-30-2011, 03:20 AM
Its strange how some of these have leaked and some haven't. Its likely someone has the Transformers one somewhere, and one day it is likely to come out, maybe after the music isnt so hot (if indeed that is the reason).

KaFaraqGatri
06-30-2011, 06:36 AM
OK, well, all I can say is leave this with me. A lot has happened since I made this post and I shall be back.

T-Mann036
06-30-2011, 06:45 AM
Best of luck to you Takehiro! I'm sure the Recording Sessions of TF1 will be leaked before the end of the year.

The Dimensioner
06-30-2011, 10:39 PM
Well this is old: http://www.zona-musical.com/postt54890.html. I wonder what it was. The score cover looks...not official, but it is as old as the movie itself, and the files have long since been deleted.

OrangeC
06-30-2011, 10:42 PM
I want revenge of the fallen. :)

SnakesInPantaloons
07-23-2011, 02:25 AM
Whoever Still Has This... Can They Re-Upload This?

abottwhite
07-23-2011, 01:49 PM
Warm Butter Design's Isolated DVD Score (http://www.warmbutter.com/dvds/) {clickable}
This was a DVD with the Transformers score in 5.1 sound, presented with a slideshow of images, that was made for Steve Jablonsky. It is clean music in film order, with bonus tracks including alternates and even the trailer music, so technically its the recording sessions.

Thanks Takehiro for the information! Can you please tell me where I can find the WBDVD?

jmn77
07-23-2011, 01:54 PM
That's the point of this thread... we're LOOKING for it and hoping someone who has it will post it! :)

Bioscope
07-23-2011, 07:15 PM
Tak, I wish you the best of luck for this one. I for one hated the 52track bootleg's choices of tracknames. I don't think Simmons ever said "Take em & Bake em" at all, and "Not To Hear that" just confuses. Surely there ware some more professional sounding tracknames, or am I Wrong?

The Dimensioner
07-23-2011, 07:57 PM
Whoever named the tracks misheard Simmons because of his accent (geez, just turn on subtitles, lol). He actually says "Tag'em and Bag'em." I think the other title comes from something like Sam asking Mikaela about her past and then she says how her father was in jail and all that stuff, and "Not to Hear That" might be the end of one Sam's sentences in that conversation.

KaFaraqGatri
07-23-2011, 07:59 PM
Im about halfway done with this, at the same time as having 50+ scores I am working on obtaining/tagging/mastering. I will post it here once I get it done :)

SnakesInPantaloons
07-23-2011, 10:27 PM
Yes... Thank You!.... Upload In .Zip File(s)j Please!!!

T-Mann036
07-23-2011, 11:59 PM
Im about halfway done with this, at the same time as having 50+ scores I am working on obtaining/tagging/mastering. I will post it here once I get it done :)

Thanks Takehiro... We'll look forward to it while I'm watching the first TF film on the dish.

Bioscope
07-24-2011, 03:57 PM
Thanks, Takehiro. Looking forward to it, among your other complete score projects pending, such as that underwater thriller involving two Navy officers arguing over fitness to command, hint hint. :-)

Jimmer
08-06-2011, 05:48 PM
Looking forward to this Takehiro! Can't wait to see what you're able to upload. Many thanks!

T-Mann036
08-06-2011, 05:54 PM
I wish I had Warm Butter Design's Isolated DVD scores!!!!!! Why, WBD... why?!!!!!!!!

YoYoBoy19
09-15-2011, 06:28 PM
How's this one coming along?

KaFaraqGatri
09-15-2011, 07:32 PM
Not so bad, I am like 98% done.

DAKoftheOTA
09-16-2011, 08:46 AM
Not so bad, I am like 98% done.

YAY!!!! I have been waiting like, ALL SUMMER LONG for this lol. But I know the way you pour your heart and soul into what you share, this will have been worth the wait. who knows - Maybe when you up it, we'll have Inception & Dark of the Moon, thus making Revenge of the Fallen the only one left out of the trilogy

TheGreatShoutOuts
09-16-2011, 02:58 PM
This isolated score looks pretty legit. We've never seen a Transformers [2007] Recording Sessions with the track sequence codes before.

Cross fingers this is real and gets posted soon!!

KaFaraqGatri
09-16-2011, 05:15 PM
It is and it will. Thanks!

Bioscope
09-16-2011, 06:15 PM
Takehiro, glad to see this is still in progress, my friend.

T-Mann036
09-16-2011, 06:28 PM
Keep it up Takehiro. Just 2% more and I'll be ready for it!!!!!

KaFaraqGatri
09-16-2011, 06:31 PM
Thanks fellas!

DAKoftheOTA
09-18-2011, 09:53 PM
Holy shit it has 7 reels!! That's more than I thought! I cannot wait for this =)

The Scoreguy
09-19-2011, 12:55 AM
Holy shit it has 7 reels!! That's more than I thought! I cannot wait for this =)

How do you know?!! :)

I just found this thread today and I'm so pumped! I didn't think something like this would actually come around!!!

SUPERVENOM
09-19-2011, 01:07 AM
Me ....2......=-)

KaFaraqGatri
09-19-2011, 01:44 AM
Holy shit it has 7 reels!! That's more than I thought! I cannot wait for this =)

A reel is about 20 mins IIRC, so 7 x 20 = 140 mins (approx) :)

DAKoftheOTA
09-19-2011, 01:46 AM
How do you know?!! :)

I just found this thread today and I'm so pumped! I didn't think something like this would actually come around!!!

I clicked the Warm Butter DVD link in the first page and you can see screen caps of the DVD. It has 7 reels, and even shows one of the cues with the reel and cue #. I think it was like 6m70a Optimus Sword. Something around there. Click the link and take a look.

stardragon978
09-20-2011, 01:17 AM
I can't believe that I just found this thread!

jmn77
09-20-2011, 01:55 AM
<----- *Waits in anticipation*

DAKoftheOTA
09-20-2011, 08:10 AM
<----- *Waits in anticipation*

Been waiting in anticipation all summer long lol

YoYoBoy19
09-20-2011, 06:50 PM
A little tip Take, something I learned not too long ago. Lets say you rip these tracks from the DVDs, and they're only AC3 448 lossy quality...Encoding them in FLAC (a higher bite rate) can possibly reduce quality because the file messes up while trying to upscale quality. So sometimes it may be best to rip them and encode them to be almost identical to what they were off the DVD.

I understand AC3's don't play on all players though, so I'm not sure what you would encode it with to keep it the same quality.

Either way, still can't wait for this release. You always do really good work on stuff like this and the sound quality is always superior. So no complaints.

Bioscope
09-21-2011, 04:40 AM
I hope this rip doesn't get the treatment that the PRINCE CASPIAN rip got (no offence to the OP of that one). The silence was cut off very close to the end of the tracks and the levels needed work. It's a welcome challenge to remaster my own version, but the cut offs can be notieable, even if I insert my own silence. I prefer to reduce silence to, say, 2 seconds after "dial down".

SnakesInPantaloons
02-17-2012, 09:36 PM
Kafaraqgatri, You Can Do It Man!

The Dimensioner
02-17-2012, 09:57 PM
Snakes, man, he got it already. It was posted ages ago. It's been up for so long that when MegaUpload collapsed, all its links went dead. I don't know that it's even been re-upped yet. And if it has been re-upped, it's probably been long enough that if you're after it, you'll probably have to ask someone to re-upload it a second time.

DAKoftheOTA
02-17-2012, 10:01 PM
Snakes, man, he got it already. It was posted ages ago. It's been up for so long that when MegaUpload collapsed, all its links went dead. I don't know that it's even been re-upped yet. And if it has been re-upped, it's probably been long enough that if you're after it, you'll probably have to ask someone to re-upload it a second time.



True that

SnakesInPantaloons
02-18-2012, 04:19 AM
I'm Gonna... See If I Can Hunt For This, Because I'm Trying To Make A Torrent Of All My Posted Scores On My Blog. I'm Also Uploading New Ones Too.... Should Have It Done By This Weekend(At Least).

The Dimensioner
02-18-2012, 05:06 AM
Thread 96227. There. Your hunt is over. The bigger challenge will be finding someone to re-upload it for you...Although, why are you needing to download this, again? It sounds like you're trying to claim ownership of it and post it on your blog? Or...?

Incredible Hulk
02-19-2012, 07:56 AM
Transformers: Bumblebee VS Barricade (1080p/HD) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YglITiW8zIk&list=FLfEJ4CWj105LziJi9zH45qw&index=162&feature=plpp_video)

Does anyone know if the music at 3:00 is anywhere yet? It's basically "Optimus" without the flute, it also plays at the dam when Optimus is giving his speech about humans.

DAKoftheOTA
02-19-2012, 08:06 AM
Transformers: Bumblebee VS Barricade (1080p/HD) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YglITiW8zIk&list=FLfEJ4CWj105LziJi9zH45qw&index=162&feature=plpp_video)

Does anyone know if the music at 3:00 is anywhere yet? It's basically "Optimus" without the flute, it also plays at the dam when Optimus is giving his speech about humans.

I wish I could explain the whole clusterfuck of this situation to you, but I can't. It's too emotional for me. Dimensioner will probably be along to explain it.

Simply put, NO. That version of "Optimus" does not exist :(

The Dimensioner
02-19-2012, 03:42 PM
I don't know what there would be left to explain, really. Dak has pretty much said everything. That version of Optimus likely does not exist along with the probably close to ten or so minutes of other music that either resembles stuff that has been released or is entirely new, or even film edits of existing tracks (Optimus, Bumblebee, Arrival to Earth, the majority of the OST). As I've seen stated elsewhere, all of this missing music likely doesn't exist in any form--they mixed it to fit in the movie, put the project together and then threw out those edits (which I refuse to believe). If they did exist, they might be locked up in a vault deep inside of RCP and will never see the light of day.

DAKoftheOTA
02-19-2012, 05:28 PM
Bingo. Enough said.

franksmith
03-10-2012, 06:40 AM
Actually I had seen this Warm Butter web site a long time ago, and once or twice I searched some of the track names found in the screen shots to no avail. I know that the Prince Caspian Recording Sessions are also around the Shrine somewhere...

DAKoftheOTA
03-10-2012, 06:50 AM
Actually I had seen this Warm Butter web site a long time ago, and once or twice I searched some of the track names found in the screen shots to no avail. I know that the Prince Caspian Recording Sessions are also around the Shrine somewhere...

What's your point? Prince Caspian has been out pretty much since the film was released. There is still no legit Complete Score or Sessions for ANY Transformers.

The Dimensioner
03-10-2012, 05:32 PM
Well, no, that's not true. What KaFaraqGatri was able to acquire out of this request are the recording sessions to Transformers. If they had been delivered to him in a different form, we would be seeing slate numbers attached to all the music he posted. As has been stated in many other threads, all the missing music, and film edits, and whatever alternates or whatnots may be out there likely do not exist in a form that we could ever get our hands on. This is the best there is ever going to be. And I also do not understand what franksmith was trying to get at.