First, Fink (http://forums.ffshrine.org/member.php?u=112417) for you:

Yes, another Zimmer score... and a good one. Between 'Hannibal' and 'The Ring', there is something about 'The Da Vinci Code' sounding like classical music I always liked. The soundtrack has been and remains an excellent resume and when the complete score leaked few years ago I immediately grabbed it, of course. I wanted more... but after a while I realized I was never listening to it... something had to be done with the sound. Things needed to be combined, shortened a little here and there so you don't fall asleep every time you listen to it... the usual stuff :) So I did it, and now I can listen to it with great pleasure, thanks of course to the skills of SonicAdventure The Great. He made it sound better, of course, and some of his edits are really clever... He really worked much harder than I did on this one.

Now enjoy the music... it feels mysterious, peaceful, and dark... my kind of stuff. I'm sure you'll appreciate it too ^^


And here I am myself:

The reasons for doing this are pretty similar to the one stated by Fink above. I have always been bewitched by the grace, grandeur and beauty of the score for 'Da Vinci Code' as it was represented on the OST. It's also true that I worked a lot on this expanded Edition of the score. And the result never made me completely happy. It's also the first time I found myself still working on it long after I was initially finished and the project was finalized. The amount of work was something I did not expect. If I would have known, I wouldn't have worked on it. Too much work, mediocre result. Instead of giving a rough overview, I will try to describe the amount of work as detailed as possible.

Fink used the sessions and combined all the small pieces into bigger suites in order to improve the flow. We both knew that the OST worked extremely well and that, in general, music by Hans Zimmer flows much better if it's combined to form suites and if it isn't complete. His fans will disagree but we didn't care, sorry. After a week of working on it he uploaded his final result and informed me that he thought it was too long and lacked focus. He was right, when I listened to it the first time I knew I had some problems to solve. Many tracks were far away from the form they had on the OST where they were combined for maximum flow and effect. In complete form, the flow of the score suffered - badly. I was bored to death by the first tracks... but once Langdon and Sophie arrive at Teabing's house, the pace gets more interesting. So I knew I had to try and shorten all tracks up to Track 9. Then, Hans Zimmer's desire for overpowering (and really bad sounding) bass was my biggest sonic problem aside from the tedious music (or so I thought). Despite what he seems to think, this droning bass doesn't sound good on all systems. No, it sounds like fucked-up shit on most systems... and a mastering engineer like me has to make it work on most systems, that's my job. Bass was already too much for parts containing pure orchestra, but it became grotesque once the artificial instruments / drum pads crept it. Many problems... so I upsampled all of it, adding 6 pieces from the OST and started to look for artwork I could use for the cover. And then... I just stopped. All the files, something around 20 Gb, lay dormant on my harddrive. One week passed, two weeks, then a month, then two months. I dreaded it before I had even started. Our 'Pirates' (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?t=206193&highlight=) compilation was done after Fink started to work on this. I don't know what then gave the impulse to start. After 'Pirates', I did something else and then I immediately worked on 'Da Vinci Code'.





So I had to start to work on pieces of music containing artificial bass first. Depending on the amount, I diminished frequencies below 65 Hz by 5-8 dB (which is a lot). After that was done I worked on the overall amount of bass. Then I worked on dynamics, adjusting little parts here and there manually with a fader. After that was finished, I started to work on staging, trying to improve what I perceived as a two-dimensional stage. Equalizing was tricky: the music as used in the movie contains much more synthetic elements than the OST. The strings especially sound awfully fake and cheap while real strings sound dull. Soft parts were sounding dull as well while some loud parts were muffled yet too aggressive for no reason. So I had to work with several different equalizations for all of these occasions to turn the sound into something that resembles balance. Example: for some longer tracks containing loud and soft parts I used setting 1 for the first 30 seconds, setting 2 for the next 20 seconds, setting 3 for the next minutes, setting 1 for the next 40 seconds, etc. As a mastering engineer you try not to do this as it increases the danger of destroying the very thing you try to achieve: sonic cohesion. You could very well end up with a score that has many sonic faces instead of just one. To get it right, you need experience, lots of experience. I'm glad that the final result works. Still... after I applied EQ, I ran into problems I didn't expect. The music started to get extremely noisy. Not some organic noise produced by the room where it was recorded. No, it was synthesizer / DSP noise sounding way too obnoxious. So I had to de-noise almost all tracks. And de-noising is always bad if you want the sound to be organic. I don't belong to those guys who think that noise needs to be eradicated completely for good sound, people who are doing that actually have no idea about sound at all. One needs that noise to have a reference for placing instruments within the virtual stage you're listening to. That noise is not only noise. Within, you can find the noise the recording stage produces. And that is the one you don't ever want to be gone. But a de-noiser cannot differentiate DSP / tape noise from room noise so the only solution is: bringing down the noise to manageable levels. On this release, it's not gone, it's only less obvious. Thankfully, I did not create artifacts usually attributed to de-noising, I'm so happy about it!
While I was doing all that, I listened to the whole result. Again. And again. And again. Everytime trimming some more music. For example, Track 3 was over 10 minutes long in the beginning... and boring as Hell. Now it's 6 minutes which is perfect. The music I erased amounts to roughly 20 minutes. And how does it sound? Partly, better than the OST. Partly, worse than the OST. Regarding EQ, this Editions has more mids, less subsonic bass and just a bit more low treble. The stage slightly pronounces everything mixed to the center. The tracks derived from the OST (CD 2, Tracks 7-12) are less dynamic and offer an improved spatiality. Regarding the sound of the sessions, I'm happy. Regarding the sound of the OST, I'm less happy. Regarding the work I invested into it, I'm not happy.

Shall I say something about the cover? Well, why did they decide on this awful promotional campaign? Almost all of it is ugly and bourgeois. And since I didn't have any idea for this score, my design is ugly and bourgeois as well. The ideas I had didn't work out which is why I settled for the Bluray design as my main cover. That one needed a lot of work, too. I coloured it blue (but not the faces), put the pyramid into it, created the gold coloured lettering (which alone took me an hour... and doesn't even look nice!). You have 5 front covers, one of them contains the Deluxe Edition banner (not pictured). Two colour schemes, blue and red, will hopefully be enough options. Another case where the result wasn't what I was hoping for. If someone has a better idea, feel free to post it.

This was - another - awful experience, again connected to or by Zimmer. I didn't enjoy working on it, no aspect of this Editon turned out to my complete liking. Because of that I have made the decision that I will not work on a Hans Zimmer score again. His scores need a lot of work to sound any good, his OSTs usually are very good representations and much better than any complete Edition could ever be. The same that happened to 'The Last Samurai' (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?t=194070&highlight=), also happened to 'The Da Vinci Code': the OST is better. If I would have the chance to decide again, I would not do it again, it is pointless.

Maybe someone else will have fun with this, I truly hope that this work hasn't been in vain.



Tracklist:

CD 1

1. Codex Da Vinci (Amanita Virosa) 3:26
2. The Paschal Spiral 2:51
3. Grande Galerie, Le Louvre 6:00
4. La Vierge et l�Anagramme 7:17
5. Job 38:11 4:36
6. L�Esprit de Gabriel 5:54
7. Fructus Gravis 6:02
8. Cryptex 2:37
9. Lacte et Cetrea 5:07
10. Malleus Malleficarum 12:55
11. Codex Trivulzianus 3:44
12. Viam Latam Fungosam Scio 3:00
13. Soy Phantasma 3:43
14. Terra Misgyny 3:19
15. Ars Volandi 3:43


CD 2

1. Among The Stars 5:27
2. Mors Vincit Omnia 4:20
3. The Plot Unfolds 4:08
4. Sepulcrum Newton 9:13
5. Blade and Chalice 12:15
6. Chevaliers de Sangreal 4:09
7. Poisoned Chalice (Album Suite) 6:20
8. The Citrine Cross (Album Suite) 5:22
9. Rose Of Arimathea (Album Suite) 8:11
10. Beneath Alrischa (Album Suite) 4:16
11. Salvete Virgines (Album Suite) 3:16
12. Kyrie for the Magdalene (composed by Richard Harvey) 3:54




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Ooooooooooo!!!!!!

Thanks a lot for this. Downloading now, I'm sure it'll be great. :D

I have never heard this score

Better now than never! Thank you.

I haven't heard this score

Better now than never! Thank you.

It's your damn age. Holy shit, you were born in 2001 0_0

: A Space Odyssey

2000, actually. :p

Sonic/Fink, do you guys mind if I post a MEGA mirror (unless someone else beats me to it)?


: A Space Odyssey

2000, actually. :p

That's no better lol

Sonic/Fink, do you guys mind if I post a MEGA mirror (unless someone else beats me to it)?

Go ahead. Though you might not like it, we shortened it ;)

Go ahead. Though you might not like it, we shortened it ;)

As you always do -_-


I'll be contempt if my favorite cues have been left on here: 3m24 The Cryptex, 5m42 On A Grail Quest, 5m45 Search the Plane, 6m49-50 Remy's Death and 6m52 Newton's Tomb :)

Thanks again for another post! It must be good to not be working on Zimmer anymore, since all he ever causes is trauma for you. Still, you did your best. Go take a break and work on something that won't kill you further.

That's no better lol



Better by at least this much? :laugh:

As you always do -_-


I'll be contempt if my favorite cues have been left on here: 3m24 The Cryptex, 5m42 On A Grail Quest, 5m45 Search the Plane, 6m49-50 Remy's Death and 6m52 Newton's Tomb :)

Remys death was shortened, the cryptex might be as well, I don't remember on a grail quest (might be included in malleus malleficarum). The rest is - if I remember correctly - as it was.

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Thanks again for another post! It must be good to not be working on Zimmer anymore, since all he ever causes is trauma for you. Still, you did your best. Go take a break and work on something that won't kill you further.

Well, hope dies last. Its already on my hard drive. But I can't say something about it since it's connected to 2 other releases.

Well, hope dies last. Its already on my hard drive. But I can't say something about it since it's connected to 2 other releases.

Ah, okay then. Also, can I PM you about a Deluxe Edition you've mentioned doing, but not posted here?

Ah, okay then. Also, can I PM you about a Deluxe Edition you've mentioned doing, but not posted here?

Of course :)

there is something about 'The Da Vinci Code' sounding like classical music I always liked.

Really?!

Now I know I'm going to like this score.

Thanks!!!

Thank you! <3

Thanks!

Awesome!
Thank you very much.

Thank you for the hard work!!!

Yes!!! Another Deluxe Edition!!!

Really Looking Forward to This One, These Are Always Excellent and Never Dissapoint.

Thank You!

Thanks for all the hard work on this guys, much respect.

Excellent! Can't wait to listen to this one! Thank you!!

Hope you ll like it guys, don't listen to Sonic i think it sounds good really :)

Finally a Deluxe Edition for DaVinci :) Thanks a lot !!!

thank you!

thanks and your right,its lovely music

Awesome, thanks. I love this score.

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Sonic/Fink, do you guys mind if I post a MEGA mirror (unless someone else beats me to it)?



That's no better lol

I eagerly await your mega mirror! Thanks.

Thank you very much, I love the film and my original ost cd. Let's hear your edition and then see (hear) the result.

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I eagerly await your mega mirror! Thanks.
Use the 1 fichier links, they are pretty fast!

thank you very much.

thank you again for sharing your hard work, il write more after i have heard it.

Thanks a lot

1fichier and solidfiles both have great speed.

Thanks for another gem, Sonic and Fink!!

Honestly I have no issues with the original complete score.

I have never heard this score

Better now than never! Thank you.

It's a very good score. Though you might try the OST first (if you have the time and patience).

Thank you Fink & Sonic.

Thank you!

You may not have enjoyed working on it but thanks so much for your work here. It is a great score (so much better than the film) and I do agree that the OST is a wonderful presentation of the score.
That said I do also enjoy these "complete" editions. So thanks again for your efforts, they are appreciated.

Thank you very much for your work on "Da Vinci Code" which is my favorite HZ score. You improved the sound significantly. Your editing choices enhance the listening experience immensely. I read of your struggle with this material and I can imagine you didn't enjoy it. But I'm sure you made a lot of people very happy with this edition.

many thanks !!!!!

Thanks!

You may not have enjoyed working on it but thanks so much for your work here. It is a great score (so much better than the film) and I do agree that the OST is a wonderful presentation of the score.
That said I do also enjoy these "complete" editions. So thanks again for your efforts, they are appreciated.

Way better than the movie. I�m curious how 'Inferno' will be after the disappointing 'Angels & Demons'.

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Thank you very much for your work on "Da Vinci Code" which is my favorite HZ score. You improved the sound significantly. Your editing choices enhance the listening experience immensely. I read of your struggle with this material and I can imagine you didn't enjoy it. But I'm sure you made a lot of people very happy with this edition.

Did I improve the sound? Not so sure. After I worked on the sessions, I can say that the OST is one of the best masters around. The engineer perfectly knew what he was doing. Or, it might be possible that he received files prepared by an RCP team. But just like me, he de-noised it, it�s audible on "Beneath Alrischa" (and before I worked on it, I didn't know the reason for an occasional "pumping effect"). The OST has too much bass so it doesn't well on many systems, but that probably was the prerogative of Zimmer. Apart from that: excellent mastering - and I rarely have reason to say this.

I struggled, true. But I also enjoy the result, it's better than the pure, unaltered sessions. But not as good as the OST. And I always try to trump the respective OST. It's bugging me that I wasn't able to do it here.

Thank You Very Very Much, I really Love this Score, this is going to be such a treat to listen to at work Wednesday!
Have a Great Week!

thank many share!

Thousand thanks for sharing, Sonic and Fink!!!... :)

Here is the FLAC version on MEGA.
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Why not just use Mega?

EDIT: Thanks SO MUCH, Reclaimedhalo

thank you!

Thank you Sonic & Fink!

Thanks again guys! :)
I remember listening to the complete score/sessions, and yeah it was very bad!

Thanks! :awsm:

(https://imgur.com/aM34IEv)

Marvelous! Thank you very much!

Here is the FLAC version on MEGA.
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Gorgeous, thanks! :D

Hey Sonic HUGE thanks to you and Fink for putting this together. I shared your sentiments exactly, with the original release of the complete score: I remember being so excited to listen to it and realizing I only really listened to it once or twice... So yeah, you guys did a really good job providing a COHERENT listening experience.

Thank you!

Thanks! :awsm:

The picture... the picture... it�s funny. But from such a bad movie :D

Thank you very much, guys!

Hey Sonic HUGE thanks to you and Fink for putting this together. I shared your sentiments exactly, with the original release of the complete score: I remember being so excited to listen to it and realizing I only really listened to it once or twice... So yeah, you guys did a really good job providing a COHERENT listening experience.

Thanks! :)

Thnaks GusBUs , that was really the point of this release :)

Way better than the movie. I�m curious how 'Inferno' will be after the disappointing 'Angels & Demons'.

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Did I improve the sound? Not so sure. After I worked on the sessions, I can say that the OST is one of the best masters around. The engineer perfectly knew what he was doing. Or, it might be possible that he received files prepared by an RCP team. But just like me, he de-noised it, it�s audible on "Beneath Alrischa" (and before I worked on it, I didn't know the reason for an occasional "pumping effect"). The OST has too much bass so it doesn't well on many systems, but that probably was the prerogative of Zimmer. Apart from that: excellent mastering - and I rarely have reason to say this.

I struggled, true. But I also enjoy the result, it's better than the pure, unaltered sessions. But not as good as the OST. And I always try to trump the respective OST. It's bugging me that I wasn't able to do it here.

I hope for the sake of your artistic credibility that you didn't just call Angels & Demons a disappointing score.

I hope for the sake of your artistic credibility that you didn't just call Angels & Demons a disappointing score.

My artistic credibility is impaired just because I called 'Angels & Demons' a disappointing score? That would be an ad hominem, you know. To suggest I'm bad at mastering because I don't like certain music is something I find amusing.

I don't like 'Angels & Demons', it missed the grace and beauty of 'Da Vinci Code'. The only track I love is "160 bpm". Thinking about it, I could have included it as the hidden track (of course, I opted for something else). It would have been the only track worthy of inclusion on a 'Da Vinci Code' set.

Thank you !!

It's really a great work you have done... Many Thanks...

My artistic credibility is impaired just because I called 'Angels & Demons' a disappointing score? That would be an ad hominem, you know. To suggest I'm bad at mastering because I don't like certain music is something I find amusing.

I don't like 'Angels & Demons', it missed the grace and beauty of 'Da Vinci Code'. The only track I love is "160 bpm". Thinking about it, I could have included it as the hidden track (of course, I opted for something else). It would have been the only track worthy of inclusion on a 'Da Vinci Code' set.

Blasphemy! I love Angels & Demons. Hence why I made a film mix :)

-

Incredible work! Thanks again!

Sonic... Fink... Thank you, guys! Been waiting for this one very much. I'm not very good at writing reviews in English, so I'm just gonna stick to ''great work, as always''. Sorry if that disappoints you, as I know you like to receive a more exhaustive feedback. :)

A thank you is already great so thank you too :)

Great upload!

Blasphemy! I love Angels & Demons. Hence why I made a film mix :)

Blasphemy? Have a look at this:

Adversum Dominum
Adversum Christum
Adversum Deo
Adversum Rex Judaeorum
Ave Satani

;)

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Sonic... Fink... Thank you, guys! Been waiting for this one very much. I'm not very good at writing reviews in English, so I'm just gonna stick to ''great work, as always''. Sorry if that disappoints you, as I know you like to receive a more exhaustive feedback. :)

Perfectly ok. So thank you. We don't say "Thank you" to everyone who said "Thank you", it would clutter the thread and look quite funny. Those are at least my reasons :)

It's not that I'm an arrogant ass... well, I am an arrogant ass but that is not the reason why I don't say "Thank you" :D

Thank you Sonic and Fink for this Deluxe Edition. I agree with you Sonic that the music is somewhat "boring" in the beginning, so thank you for trimming it down from what you had originally.

I know some of the people here are obsessed with every damn note written for a film... I'm not. If getting rid of some stuff will increase the listening flow and the overall experience of the score, then I'm all for it :)

I'm glad to hear you say you won't do another Zimmer score, only because it seems to bring you such frustration. I bet you'll get suckered into another one though - you just need time enough to forget the pain. :-) It's the only reason women have a second child, right? They forget the pain. Can't wait to see what you do next though. For my two cents, my favorite one you've done (so far) has been The Adventures of TinTin - I'm biased because Williams is my favorite composer, but what you did for that score (compared to the official release) was just fantastic. I listen to that all the time.

Thanks for share but password does not seem to work.

? so is there any chance of a Angels & Demons Deluxe Edition?
I love all your hard efforts, and you have made me really really appericate my Soundtrack physical Collection so so much more!
Thanks. Have a great week!

Thank you Sonic and Fink for this Deluxe Edition. I agree with you Sonic that the music is somewhat "boring" in the beginning, so thank you for trimming it down from what you had originally.

I know some of the people here are obsessed with every damn note written for a film... I'm not. If getting rid of some stuff will increase the listening flow and the overall experience of the score, then I'm all for it :)

Same here :)

But maybe that's a character trait of people like us: guys who are a bit older, have collected tons of CDs over the years (even decades, no?). Maybe it's just a generational problem.

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I'm glad to hear you say you won't do another Zimmer score, only because it seems to bring you such frustration. I bet you'll get suckered into another one though - you just need time enough to forget the pain. :-) It's the only reason women have a second child, right? They forget the pain. Can't wait to see what you do next though. For my two cents, my favorite one you've done (so far) has been The Adventures of TinTin - I'm biased because Williams is my favorite composer, but what you did for that score (compared to the official release) was just fantastic. I listen to that all the time.

You raise a valid concern. I actually might do another one at some point. And the reasons are exactly the ones you stated: I might forget the frustration. Tintin is your favourite? Interesting... as it doesn't feel cohesive to me. I can't shake the feeling that there are small parts here and there that are missing. And what I did for that score... I tend to forget if the Editions I do (or we) are actually an improvement. Always the goal... but then I only listen to these Editions anymore so I forget the OSTs.

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Thanks for share but password does not seem to work.

Copy & Paste will do the trick. Or update your unpacker.

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? so is there any chance of a Angels & Demons Deluxe Edition?
I love all your hard efforts, and you have made me really really appericate my Soundtrack physical Collection so so much more!
Thanks. Have a great week!

Erm... have you read the first post? Or the other posts? :D

No, there won't be a chance I will do 'Angels & Demons'.

Here's yet another MEGA mirror. Someone did beat me to it, but it can't hurt to have more than 1 :)

So Dark The Con of Man (https://mega.nz/#!zURhSbLD!iCcWa6EnwFhcan1ZDQICi8clX3ohFz9yW84cGGJloVY)

Many thanks!

thank for replying so quickly I just got a little greedy and wanted to make it a De Vinci Angels & Demons Day LOL!
What i would really really wish for is somebody to do a Deluxe Edition fully remastered if possible
Bernard Herrmann's original PSYCHO soundtrack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you guys can fix that and make it sound as good as it gets! Then you are truly Soundtrack Kings!
OST Sound Stage CD, plus there's a Laser Disc rip ,plus a PSYCHO/Vertigo Soundtrack Factory CD posted in the formum.

Here's yet another MEGA mirror. Someone did beat me to it, but it can't hurt to have more than 1 :)

So Dark The Con of Man (https://mega.nz/#!zURhSbLD!iCcWa6EnwFhcan1ZDQICi8clX3ohFz9yW84cGGJloVY)

Fantastic, thank you very much!! I�ve added your link (and Reclaimedhalo's) to the original post.

And I have to ask: do you like it? :)

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thank for replying so quickly I just got a little greedy and wanted to make it a De Vinci Angels & Demons Day LOL!
What i would really really wish for is somebody to do a Deluxe Edition fully remastered if possible
Bernard Herrmann's original PSYCHO soundtrack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you guys can fix that and make it sound as good as it gets! Then you are truly Soundtrack Kings!
OST Sound Stage CD, plus there's a Laser Disc rip ,plus a PSYCHO/Vertigo Soundtrack Factory CD posted in the formum.

Ooooh, Psycho? You probably mean Herrmann's original recordings? I've never listened to them (apart from watching the movie), I've only heard the Varese re-recording (which I own alongside Vertigo and Marnie). For me, they have always been enough. So I probably won't tackle something that is too old to be salvaged.

Thanks Sonic and Fink, what a treat! About time to revisit this score. This was right about the tail end of when I was really invested in Zimmer's career, after this, things just started to... change. Thrilled to revisit this score. Not one I'm super-familiar with, but one that I remember having some really impressive moments. Sympathize with your woes working on this edition, but I'm sure you've delivered a truly stellar product as always. Trust me, your efforts are always appreciated, even if not by yourself. Hopefully the next ones you can actually relax and enjoy a bit more. Cheers!

Thank you :)

Again, a big thank you!

Thanks Sonic and Fink, what a treat! About time to revisit this score. This was right about the tail end of when I was really invested in Zimmer's career, after this, things just started to... change. Thrilled to revisit this score. Not one I'm super-familiar with, but one that I remember having some really impressive moments. Sympathize with your woes working on this edition, but I'm sure you've delivered a truly stellar product as always. Trust me, your efforts are always appreciated, even if not by yourself. Hopefully the next ones you can actually relax and enjoy a bit more. Cheers!

Yeah, after a few days, my opinion towards this score is a bit more friendly than on the day we posted it ;)

It's a decent Edition, not a stellar one, but I did what I wanted with the sound. And I indeed am working on something - and enjoying it tremendously. Two days ago, I worked on Powder. Bought the CD some time ago and, as usual, there are mastering issues regarding Doug's preference of dynamic alteration of soft tracks. Yesterday I worked on Basic Instinct, which I also bought months ago and I just love the result. And during the next days, I will tackle Alien Ressurrection, I'm curious about that score as I don't remember it that well (bought that one as well; I was lucky to grab it for a decent price as it is sold out on LaLaLand's website).

Thanks for the great share.

Thanks for your work SA.

:)

Thank you

As a completest, I usually dislike it when several minutes of material are removed. But I can't argue with how well it flows. The sessions having taken a backseat to this. Very nicely done!

Yeah Sonic, I don't like Doug Fake's new approach to mastering. They used to go a bit crazy with the loudness in older releases, but now they went the other extreme and it's too soft... How about doing something half way, kind of like La-La Land, which does decent mastering I think?

Thanks a lot SonicAdventure and Fink! :D

Hoping to see, one day, a Deluxe Edition for Inception now that the Lossless Expanded Score is out! ;)

As a completest, I usually dislike it when several minutes of material are removed. But I can't argue with how well it flows. The sessions having taken a backseat to this. Very nicely done!

Thank you! That is exactly what we attempted and I�m glad that you like it :)

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Yeah Sonic, I don't like Doug Fake's new approach to mastering. They used to go a bit crazy with the loudness in older releases, but now they went the other extreme and it's too soft... How about doing something half way, kind of like La-La Land, which does decent mastering I think?

Well, LaLaLand has been hit-or-miss for me. More miss in recent years. 'Sum of all fears' has really crappy mastering where the engineer attempted to remove noise or something. Sounds weird and not organic. And it's on whatever release he mastered (which includes 'Superman Returns'... but that one has other issues as well). The biggest problem with Doug Fake's mastering is that he apparently doesn't want to do dynamic compression properly. He makes soft tracks as loud as possible - but doesn't do the same for tracks that contain soft AND loud parts. The result is that dynamics are uneven. One track is loud, instruments seem to be gigantic, the next track is way softer with instruments seemingly smaller and more distant - and only because that track contains a very loud part. What he should do (what I always do) is that he makes the loud part softer so that he can raise the soft part. If it's done well, it will sound completely natural.

And Douglas Fake - to my knowledge - never went crazy with the loudness. Varese did that... and they don't do it to that extent anymore. Except if composer / licensor / anyone wants it. So I would prefer Doug's mastering, most of the time you can do something it. With LaLaLand it's much more difficult, plus, most of their releases sound only half finished. There are exceptions but one has to be lucky.

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Thanks a lot SonicAdventure and Fink! :D

Hoping to see, one day, a Deluxe Edition for Inception now that the Lossless Expanded Score is out! ;)

I already did a Deluxe Edition -> Thread 95574

It's hidden within Sinus' post, it isn't complete but I'm also not interested in revisiting it, nothing can be gained by adding material IMO.

The biggest problem with Doug Fake's mastering is that he apparently doesn't want to do dynamic compression properly. He makes soft tracks as loud as possible - but doesn't do the same for tracks that contain soft AND loud parts. The result is that dynamics are uneven. One track is loud, instruments seem to be gigantic, the next track is way softer with instruments seemingly smaller and more distant - and only because that track contains a very loud part. What he should do (what I always do) is that he makes the loud part softer so that he can raise the soft part. If it's done well, it will sound completely natural.


Never had any problems hearing Doug mastering,better though he delivers it complete in great sound.

I already did a Deluxe Edition -> Thread 95574

It's hidden within Sinus' post, it isn't complete but I'm also not interested in revisiting it, nothing can be gained by adding material IMO.

Thanks for the information, I'll search for it ;)

Love your work for the Album Suites (which I believe to be one single piece split in different cues). I heard the 28-minutes suite countless times, now I'm enjoying your version! Great work!

Never had any problems hearing Doug mastering,better though he delivers it complete in great sound.

I envy you, I wish I wouldn't hear anything problematic. My life would be a lot easier - and listening to music less time consuming.

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Thanks for the information, I'll search for it ;)

Love your work for the Album Suites (which I believe to be one single piece split in different cues). I heard the 28-minutes suite countless times, now I'm enjoying your version! Great work!

The album suites are really lovely. I am not sure anymore... but they don't contain that many parts used in the movie, right? I deliberately deleted the originals from the sessions, I remember that Fink wrote me a list where he stated where what was used. I think that most of "Poisoned Chalice" wasn't even used in the movie, except for the end credits.

What i would really really wish for is somebody to do a Deluxe Edition fully remastered if possible
Bernard Herrmann's original PSYCHO soundtrack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you guys can fix that and make it sound as good as it gets! Then you are truly Soundtrack Kings!
OST Sound Stage CD, plus there's a Laser Disc rip ,plus a PSYCHO/Vertigo Soundtrack Factory CD posted in the formum.

I would be a fan of your work if you can make this sound better using the Laserdisc source.

I would be a fan of your work if you can make this sound better using the Laserdisc source.

You people are asking for too much. A Laserdisc source? Who could rip that? As Sonic already stated, it's best not to dabble with much older material. Granted, it could make for an interesting challenge, but it's not the goal for now.

I would be a fan of your work if you can make this sound better using the Laserdisc source.

Aha, so you would be my best friend if I would give you fries? Sorry, but I think I will skip that friendship.

Besides, Laserdisc? Who still has a player able to play those? I certainly don't. And I will not buy one just for one disc representing an ancient movie on an ancient format.

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You people are asking for too much. A Laserdisc source? Who could rip that? As Sonic already stated, it's best not to dabble with much older material. Granted, it could make for an interesting challenge, but it's not the goal for now.

Stop, stop, stop. I know you want to help me but it really is unnecessary :)

I never said that it's best not to dabble with older material. I said something to the effect that I don't want to do it because the result wouldn't be good regarding the work I would put into it. 'Psycho' is a brilliant movie, its soundtrack is brilliant as well. But 'Psycho' and its music were done in 1960. No matter what I will do, it will always sound like something from 1960. At best, I can turn the sound into something that resembles the '70s. It will never sound as good as Varese Sarabandes re-recording from decades later.



Something else: I find it very interesting that people are giving one star to this release when it's obvious that they are doing it solely because they don't get what they want (Psycho, non-shortened music, etc.). As if they try to use the rating system for their personal agenda instead of rating just the score / work this thread is about. To me, that seems incredibly stupid, short sighted and truly shows how small their cocks are :) I mean, they wouldn't have asked for 'Psycho' or something else if they wouldn't have liked the work presented in this thread here. Yet it's not enough, they want more. Greedy, little bastards.

Addendum: interestingly, this only happens with releases featuring music by Hans Zimmer. If I would be shallow I would say that Zimmer fans are incredibly stupid, short sighted and that it's proof of their small cocks. But that would be a) not true and b) unfair to fine guys like DAK (and others).

Enjoy your world.

Thank you

Enjoy your world.

Goodbye! Nevermind enjoying everything Sonic has already done. Just this one particular score request and everything is in place for likeability! What amazing thinking! Never be realistic in what you ask for! You are the spitting image of humanity, and we're all grateful for it! How does it feel?

Enjoy your world.

I don't get what you mean by that?

I don't get what you mean by that?

Honestly, I can't put my finger on it either. All I can think is that he's trying to be smug.

Thanks!!

Enjoy your world.

What i mean by that is just simple,i was asking for a request he maybe could do and i get my answer.
I asked it polite and the answer i get is some sort of rude,so i step away and say enjoy your way of thinking,i was just asking not demanding.

What i mean by that is just simple,i was asking for a request he maybe could do and i get my answer.
I asked it polite and the answer i get is some sort of rude,so i step away and say enjoy your way of thinking,i was just asking not demanding.

Being honest and giving opinion can make a person feel rude at points. We weren't trying to insult you though. I was quite tired when I made my last two posts. Some of the logic is still questionable, but it's nothing personal. Carry on.

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What i mean by that is just simple,i was asking for a request he maybe could do and i get my answer.
I asked it polite and the answer i get is some sort of rude,so i step away and say enjoy your way of thinking,i was just asking not demanding.

I will explain. You said "I would be a fan of your work if you can make this sound better using the Laserdisc source." Don't you understand that this effectively was an attempt by you to appeal to my vanity and self-confidence? Because, your sentence says, translated to the basic psychological effect it will have on people, "I will like you if you do what I want." The concept behind this is the belief that people have to earn to be liked by others, that they are worth nothing if they are not doing what someone asks of them.

I just can't stand something like this. So I spoke my mind. And then my train of thought rambled on an produced a somewhat bitter tirade. Sorry about the latter. But I will stand by what I wrote to you the first time.

However, do you have a source for the Laserdisc rip of 'Psycho'? At least, I would like to listen to it, if only to judge the quality.

Thanks!

I really don't understand why this thread has only a 3-star-rating. Please push up the rating for this excellent release.

I really don't understand why this thread has only a 3-star-rating. Please push up the rating for this excellent release.

Well, I was an arrogant shit. That might be a reason :D

thank you guys :)

Thank You!

I'm not familiar to this score, but I'm used to listen to the wonderful 28-minutes suite, which is "Poisoned Chalice" / "The Citrine Cross" / "Rose of Arimathea" / "Beneath Alrischa" / "Chevaliers de Sangreal" from the Album.
Since SonicAdventure mastered those same tracks separately, I took the FLAC files of Sonic and edited them as a single track to replace the previous version. I had to fix the merging between "Beneath Alrischa" and "Chevaliers de Sangreal" using a little excerpt from the original version, but I hope it's not a problem.

Basically it's SonicAdventure's version of the Suite, and it's a real pleasure to listen to it :D

For anyone that, like me, is used to listen to the Suite, here are the links: WAV (http://www51.zippyshare.com/v/phydIl7f/file.html) | 16-bit FLAC (http://www11.zippyshare.com/v/JdN35juY/file.html) | 320k mp3 (http://www11.zippyshare.com/v/p3i0GzxG/file.html)
Thanks to SonicAdventure and Fink for making this possible! :awsm:

Enjoy!



PS. I had to merge the tracks with Audition (it's more precise than Audacity) so I saved the file in WAV and later converted it in FLAC and mp3. The FLAC file is way lighter than the WAV file so there could be some loss of quality there, I fear.

As usual, yours are the greatest! Thanks immensely!

I'm not familiar to this score, but I'm used to listen to the wonderful 28-minutes suite, which is "Poisoned Chalice" / "The Citrine Cross" / "Rose of Arimathea" / "Beneath Alrischa" / "Chevaliers de Sangreal" from the Album.
Since SonicAdventure mastered those same tracks separately, I took the FLAC files of Sonic and edited them as a single track to replace the previous version. I had to fix the merging between "Beneath Alrischa" and "Chevaliers de Sangreal" using a little excerpt from the original version, but I hope it's not a problem.

Basically it's SonicAdventure's version of the Suite, and it's a real pleasure to listen to it :D

For anyone that, like me, is used to listen to the Suite, here are the links: WAV (http://www51.zippyshare.com/v/phydIl7f/file.html) | 16-bit FLAC (http://www11.zippyshare.com/v/JdN35juY/file.html) | 320k mp3 (http://www11.zippyshare.com/v/p3i0GzxG/file.html)
Thanks to SonicAdventure and Fink for making this possible! :awsm:

Enjoy!



PS. I had to merge the tracks with Audition (it's more precise than Audacity) so I saved the file in WAV and later converted it in FLAC and mp3. The FLAC file is way lighter than the WAV file so there could be some loss of quality there, I fear.

Thank you very much, this is great! :)

And yes, this suite is a wonderful thing, that's why we included it. And don't worry about FLAC, it is supposed to be less storage consuming without any loss of quality (hence the term "lossless").

Awesome!
Thank you so much!

Thanks!

Thank you!

thanks

Thank you for the links.

Thanks, Sonic.

Thanks for share it!

Thank you :)

Thanks again Sonic. I look forward to listening to this.

Thanks!

thanks

I'm not familiar to this score, but I'm used to listen to the wonderful 28-minutes suite, which is "Poisoned Chalice" / "The Citrine Cross" / "Rose of Arimathea" / "Beneath Alrischa" / "Chevaliers de Sangreal" from the Album.
Since SonicAdventure mastered those same tracks separately, I took the FLAC files of Sonic and edited them as a single track to replace the previous version. I had to fix the merging between "Beneath Alrischa" and "Chevaliers de Sangreal" using a little excerpt from the original version, but I hope it's not a problem.

Basically it's SonicAdventure's version of the Suite, and it's a real pleasure to listen to it :D

For anyone that, like me, is used to listen to the Suite, here are the links: WAV (http://www51.zippyshare.com/v/phydIl7f/file.html) | 16-bit FLAC (http://www11.zippyshare.com/v/JdN35juY/file.html) | 320k mp3 (http://www11.zippyshare.com/v/p3i0GzxG/file.html)
Thanks to SonicAdventure and Fink for making this possible! :awsm:

Enjoy!



PS. I had to merge the tracks with Audition (it's more precise than Audacity) so I saved the file in WAV and later converted it in FLAC and mp3. The FLAC file is way lighter than the WAV file so there could be some loss of quality there, I fear.

Do you still have the flac file? Flac and wav links are dead. It would be highly appreciated.

Thanks!

Reclaimedhalo's link is still good. Thanks for sharing this!

Do you still have the flac file? Flac and wav links are dead. It would be highly appreciated.

I still have them, but unfortunataly, I cannot upload anything until I go home for Christmas :(
The wav file is quite useless, since I used 16-bit flac files from SonicAdventure and a few seconds from the 16-bit flac files of the expanded score.

Hey guys, so with Sonic's kind permission, I'm linking a cover I've spent the last couple days working on. I was a big fan of Sonic's cover set for this, especially his main cover using that Blu Ray art with the Louvre pyramid at the bottom, that said, I preferred the red color design, as it generally fits the film better, imo, and also wanted to add a "Deluxe Edition" banner at the top. So in the end, although it looks simple, I had to use all sorts of image and layers and tried to nail the skin tones, and add some color into the pyramid, instead of having it be a flat red (like the blue). Also I ended up changing the effects on the Title, mine looks a bit more like marble columns. Overall I'm pretty happy with it. Let me know what you think. Enjoy, for what its worth.


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(PS, I should know this by know, but what's the code to be able to show a half-sized image preview below the link instead of this full version?)

I love it, but their skin tone looks a little on the green side.....

Finally gave this one a proper listen and let me tell you, it's the first time I've truly loved this score. So thank you!

I love it, but their skin tone looks a little on the green side.....

Thanks DAK, glad you like it. Yeah, I worked forever trying to get the skin tones right. In the end, I still find the colors look a lot fuller here on their faces, so I kept it, although I did fiddle endlessly to try to remove blu around the edges of their faces (from the different sources of the image I used). Even the official red poster version of this is rather flat and lifeless on the faces. You're right, it does stand out as being a little green, especially compared to the much redder hue of the rest of the image, but I think it gives it a bit more 3D kinda effect, less flat. I had actually tried to introduce just a tad more of that greenish color to the bottom to balance it out a bit more, but when i pushed it too far, it just looked funky. Oh well.

Appreciate your time and efforts. Cheers.

Does anyone happen to have this deluxe edition? The links seem to be down. Thanks in advance!

Reclaimedhalo's link is still online. Thank you!!!

Reclaimedhalo's link is still online. Thank you!!!


Here is the FLAC version on MEGA.
Size: 700.93MB, No password.

Link - https://mega.nz/#!TAp3gZ5K!ym-7Zwmu05MyouYfo90dkYV4lBTSfix0ExaP6szmtKU

Oh thanks, I hadn't noticed. Thank you so much!

Thank you guys!

Thank you, this is much better than the OST.

Amazing work!!! Thank you very much! :)

thanks

Thank you a lot !!

Thank you so much for this.

Does anybody have by any chance a mp3 version?

Thank you thank you thank you!