Hi fans!

I've made a lovely expanded edit of The Force Awakens using a combination of the FYC and OST releases. This edit should be as complete as possible given the available material. I used the spreadsheet guide here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rDuRXT-67ETwF2cy4lNkgp5AV_QcIDivxUwCLtLOGfg/pubhtml) kindly compiled by JWFan's Jason LeBlanc.

Covers
(http://imgur.com/eGHKw1F) (http://imgur.com/noWhhtq)
Many thanks Dave999 for these (Thread 198296).

I've tried to keep the presentation as true to Williams' intentions as I could imagine. Most instances of nasty edits or looping that occur in places on both the FYC and OST editions have been fixed. This release also features clean intros and outros, when appropriate. I have mocked these up where needed (only a couple of times - and sounds natural). Also - I've kept any intended segues between tracks.

Where alternate takes of the same material between the FYC/OST occur - I have chosen the take that I personally prefer - and based on the opinions I've gathered from a few others.

I've also slightly mastered the FYC elements to give the mix more presence, and match the OST.

It makes for a decent and coherent listen.

Tracklist
01 Main Title and The Attack on the Jakku Village (6:52)
02 Jakku Village Massacre (1:54)
03 The Scavenger (2:28)
04 Lunchtime (1:22)
05 Rey Meets BB-8 (1:31)
06 I Can Fly Anything (4:16)
07 Finn's Trek (1:34)
08 Rey's Theme (3:11)
09 Follow Me and The Falcon (6:48)
10 That Girl with the Staff (1:59)
11 The Rathtars! (4:06)
12 Snoke (2:08)
13 Arrival at Takodana (0:41)
14 You Got A Name? (1:32)
15 Maz Examines Finn (1:28)
16 I'm No Hero (1:05)
17 Maz and Rey (1:48)
18 The Starkiller (1:53)
19 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:14)
20 The Resistance (1:33)
21 The Abduction (2:25)
22 Han and Leia / Finn and Poe, United (4:41)
23 March of the Resistance (2:36)
24 Snoke (2:03)
25 The Bombing Run (2:05)
26 On The Inside (2:54)
27 Torn Apart (4:53)
28 The Ways of the Force (4:47)
29 Farewell and The Trip (4:56)
30 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:59)
31 Scherzo for X-Wings (2:32)

Total duration: 1:34:13

Download (https://mega.nz/#!wFt3WSKR!BjxLIrhLVw7cizAGMUcdPBVTVuMF1Db5SZi4xY_y8Fg)
Revision 5 (19 Jan 2016 (Thread 198296))

I'm open to any feedback if I have missed some material or any improvements could be made. :)

Thank you!!!

gracias

Soooo... you're a week too late.. (Thread 198057). are you aware someone already made this set before you? Or is this basically the same set and are you leeching off it? Clonemaster15 ?
It's even two minutes shorter than Clonemaster's version. Track 2 has an incorrect title, on top of that.

EDIT: Oh ffs I noticed just now you're even linking to Clonemaster's original thread yourself. WTF?

UPDATE: all a misunderstanding. My bad. Please ignore the blunt rant.

Soooo... you're a week too late.. (Thread 198057). are you aware someone already made this set before you? Or is this basically the same set and are you leeching off it? Clonemaster15 ?
It's even two minutes shorter than Clonemaster's version. Track 2 has an incorrect title, on top of that.

EDIT: Oh ffs I noticed just now you're even linking to Clonemaster's original thread yourself. WTF?

No. This is entirely my own creation using a combination of the FYC and OST elements, as I described. I am in no sense leeching off anything. I spent two days putting this together in Cubase with meticulous editing, and mastering. I followed the mentioned spreadsheet as well as closely comparing both versions. It is a far more laboured over release than the other one, in actuality (sorry, but please read my initial post again to understand the lengths I went to). I have been very meticulous and attempted to honour Williams' sensibilities with the presentation.

Track 2 does not have a 'incorrect title'. It is the title I chose. Forgive me.

I linked to the other thread for the *cover* - simply. My former awareness of the thread's existence should not be a problem.

You have been rather rude. I hope your attitude is not representative of the majority of this community, to which this is my first contribution. Again, this took a fair bit of my time that I did for the enjoyment of fans (including myself). The 'week too late' comment - come on, man, surely it's OK to have more than one fan edit? And as for the 2 minutes shorter, there'll be a fair reason - probably removal of looped/reprised material - or, I've missed a passage here or there, which I did explain I would like to have pointed out to me so that I can make revisions.

Thank you very much for your great work!

I have got the CD though I would check this out thank you

Thanks, will check this one out, sounds like an interesting edit!

No. This is entirely my own creation using a combination of the FYC and OST elements, as I described. I am in no sense leeching off anything. I spent two days putting this together in Cubase with meticulous editing, and mastering. I followed the mentioned spreadsheet as well as closely comparing both versions. It is a far more laboured over release than the other one, in actuality (sorry, but please read my initial post again to understand the lengths I went to). I have been very meticulous and hopefully respectful to Williams' intentions with the presentation.

Track 2 does not have a 'incorrect title'. It is the title I chose. Forgive me.

I linked to the other thread for the *cover* - simply. My former awareness of the thread's existence should not be a problem.

You have been rather rude. I hope your attitude is not representative of the majority of this community, to which this is my first contribution. Again, this took a fair bit of my time that I did for the enjoyment of fans (including myself). The 'week too late' comment - come on, man, surely it's OK to have more than one fan edit? And as for the 2 minutes shorter, there'll be a fair reason - probably removal of looped/reprised material - or, I've missed a passage here or there, which I did explain I would like to have pointed out to me so that I can make revisions.

No, it is not representative of the community's behaviour although there are a few exceptions. At least now you know how to arm yourself against it ;)
There's no problem with someone posting a new link in a new thread if all other links are down, that's the basics of it. Some soundtracks on this forum have twenty or so threads, and others predicted The Force Awakens would go the same route, and for what reason? If one person posts the album, everyone should take that and move on.

If you had in your possession the FYC disc and could therefore provide a lossless mix of the retail album and the FYC score then people would be jumping all over you, but the truth of the matter is that, yes, you are a week late in posting that. With that I mean that most of the community that wanted to hear an extended cut of the John Williams score for TFA have already downloaded it from Clonemaster15. There's always a few exceptions, proof of the posts above mine, but in general this is -sorry to say- a bit useless.

On the flipside: Have you heard Clonemaster's attempt? Is it in any way different from yours? Do you think yours is mixed in a better way? If so I'd be happy to download it and ditch the one I have.
But I struggle to see how you're trying to remove looped material if that is exactly how it comes across in the original cue?

P.S.: I'm not trying to be rude but I'm well aware my initial post might/will have come across as such.

In my opinion - it's better. What more can I say!

In the FYC, for example, there are repeated micro-segments or ugly fades. This might be because the FYC tracks came from the final edited film master. I don't want that stuff in there - so I take the clean stuff from the OST, for example.

There are many instances of micro-edits in the OST tracks, too. So it's a matter of taking the best from either of the sources to get the most music, and in a way that hopefully faithfully represents Williams' sensibilities.

I've just gone about making a release that I hope is musically sensible, coherent, and enjoyable. I've already mentioned all of the efforts I've gone to. Make your own mind up as to which you prefer! :P

With regards to the other release - one thing I can say objectively about it (apart from it including some of these mentioned pitfalls and not being mastered) - is... sorry to be harsh, but the edits are uglier.

Oh For Goodness Sake What Does It Matter, If There Is 2,3 OR 100 Edits Made, Seriously. I Saw No One Complain At How Many Uploads There Were For The OST. I Saw No One Complain At How Many Posts There Were At Edits For Any Other Album.

Get Off Your High Horse And Give OP A Break. Jeeze. Seriously This Place Is Getting Stupid At People Complaining About Anything, No One Seems Happy Until There Is Something to Moan About. Grow Up, And Move On.

thank you for the hard work!

thank you for the hard work!
Three Cheers! Thanks moo0z0r!

Dave999, your first post is highly presumptuous and inflammatory. First you accuse the OT of the "crime" of hijacking another upload without proof, and then you suggest that clonemaster15 holds some proprietary rights to any "Expanded" edition of Awakens. In your second post you then proceed to take a piss on the OP and his/her efforts based on the ridiculous premise that the first customized edit out of the gate is the last word on the subject.

Astoundingly absurd.

Thanks this looks good !

Thank you!!

Nice job on Arrival at Takodana :)

Thanks a lot, moo0z0r, for your efforts, much appreciated. Since I didn't download the other edit from clonemaster yet, I will try yours, based on your description about what you did with the source material available (something I would never be able to do myself, I believe... well, since there are always kind people like you, I won't try this anyway by myself!).

And one more thing: most people here are grateful for what they get here (for FREE!). Don't be bothered by people attacking you out of the blue (and then following with some lame excuses for their behaviour!). If someone doesn't like what you do, fine - nobody has to download what you are sharing. But you should, at least, be treated with respect.

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Many thanks for sharing this. I've got Clonemaster's and I like it. I'm thankful that you are sharing your version. Anyone who can do these edits has my admiration. I've done a little, and I know how hard a few tracks are. I can't imagine what editing between tracks on different albums must be like.

Guys, chill it down. You can download mine, or moo0z0r's version, it isn't much matter to me. All I care is that my work is being appreciated, and that this edit is being appreciated. I should be able to be the one who says it's okay, it's not that I own this anyway. Take your pick. ;)

Guys, chill it down.

"Guys"? I think that would apply to Dave999 alone.

"Guys"? I think that would apply to Dave999 alone.

Well, you know what I mean. :p

Thanks a lot!!!

Ooo BURN! lol ;)

I really appreciate what you've done here -- many thanks!

http://megoblog.typepad.com/.a/6a013486abd95c970c015432547af4970c-pi

"You don't know what I do MA!"

Edit: I am going to do a re-edit, not because this edit was uploaded, it has nothing to do with it, and I have nothing against others doing their own edits. Because of the spreadsheets that Lockdown posted on my thread a little less than a week ago. It was linked to in this thread, and reminded me of it. I just think I can do better than my last.

Dave999, your first post is highly presumptuous and inflammatory. First you accuse the OT of the "crime" of hijacking another upload without proof, and then you suggest that clonemaster15 holds some proprietary rights to any "Expanded" edition of Awakens. In your second post you then proceed to take a piss on the OP and his/her efforts based on the ridiculous premise that the first customized edit out of the gate is the last word on the subject.

Astoundingly absurd.
None of the above. And please don't place words/actions upon me. In no way did I take the piss on anyone.

Guys, chill it down. You can download mine, or moo0z0r's version, it isn't much matter to me. All I care is that my work is being appreciated, and that this edit is being appreciated. I should be able to be the one who says it's okay, it's not that I own this anyway. Take your pick. ;)

"Guys"? I think that would apply to Dave999 alone.
I'm fine, but thanks.

In my opinion - it's better. What more can I say!

In the FYC, for example, there are repeated micro-segments or ugly fades. This might be because the FYC tracks came from the final edited film master. I don't want that stuff in there - so I take the clean stuff from the OST, for example.

There are many instances of micro-edits in the OST tracks, too. So it's a matter of taking the best from either of the sources to get the most music, and in a way that hopefully faithfully represents Williams' sensibilities.

I've just gone about making a release that I hope is musically sensible, coherent, and enjoyable. I've already mentioned all of the efforts I've gone to. Make your own mind up as to which you prefer! :P

With regards to the other release - one thing I can say objectively about it (apart from it including some of these mentioned pitfalls and not being mastered) - is... sorry to be harsh, but the edits are uglier.

Did you at least convert everything to a lossless format before you started work on your edit?
If so, I'm definitely downloading this to have a listen.
EDIT: never mind. The high file size suggests you converted first. Downloading now.

About the mistitled track, and this is just personal preference, might I suggest "Jakku Village Massacre" instead?
I personally never liked the idea of dialogue being used as title tracks.

Here are two expanded covers I made for your edit :)

(http://imgur.com/eGHKw1F) (http://imgur.com/noWhhtq)

Hey, thanks. I got the OST as a Christmas gift. I'm definitely curious to hear this. And the fact that there's music out there already, I'm sure at some point we'll all have a lossless or maybe even official release of a complete score. Thanks again moo0z0r

Any idea why Jason LeBlanc's spreadsheet (and therefore also probably this release) leaves off cue "4A" -- the first 1:10 of Rey Meets BB-8? What does his note mean? " DEBATE, possibly entire OST track belongs here"

EDIT: Nevermind I see it was moved later.

EDIT: never mind. The high file size suggests you converted first. Downloading now.



And thanks for the covers!

Muchas gracias

Gracias

…I am going to do a re-edit

Personally, I'd wait for a lossless FYC.

Personally, I'd wait for a lossless FYC.

I might, but also, editing is fun. Mine was done with Audacity also, it's easy to use. ;)

I might, but also, editing is fun. Mine was done with Audacity also, it's easy to use. ;)

Oh ya, don't stop playing with it, but you'll never be wholly satisfied with the results knowing a lossless source is on the horizon.

Oh ya, don't stop playing with it, but you'll never be wholly satisfied with the results knowing a lossless source is on the horizon.

Ya. ;)

It's nice to observe that the debate on this thread has cooled down already, to be replaced by some rather constructive suggestions and revised opinions. That's the way to go, people - congratulations! :)

It's nice to observe that the debate on this thread has cooled down already, to be replaced by some rather constructive suggestions and revised opinions. That's the way to go, people - congratulations! :)

Always the way to go. ;)

I am enjoying this, thank you! Best score of 2015 IMHO.

I am enjoying this, thank you! Best score of 2015 IMHO.
Best score in the last 8+ years, imo.

I'm still getting familiar to the OST and FYC... I haven't heard any edit yet. I'll download this version too :)
Thanks moo0z0r for your effort! :D

Best score in the last 8+ years, imo.

Of movies in general?

Thank you.

Of movies in general?
Movies, video games, anime, you name it. It's just beautiful and really refreshing. And I also really enjoy that they don't borrow too much music from the previous movies. The nostalgia is nice, but it has to stand out and be its own entity.

I argued in length about that with my girlfriend. She believes it should have had more of the older themes, but remixed. I think that have been far too much nostalgia, and would have ruined the direction of the new series. People already think it's too much like A New Hope, as is. And while I see the similarities, it is still more than enough to be different.

Movies, video games, anime, you name it. It's just beautiful and really refreshing. And I also really enjoy that they don't borrow too much music from the previous movies. The nostalgia is nice, but it has to stand out and be its own entity.

I argued in length about that with my girlfriend. She believes it should have had more of the older themes, but remixed. I think that have been far too much nostalgia, and would have ruined the direction of the new series. People already think it's too much like A New Hope, as is. And while I see the similarities, it is still more than enough to be different.

Yes, I agree, on the Star Wars part, I still think there's been really good scores for other games, movies and such, but this is still one of the best scores we've gotten.

Thnks for this one!!!

Well, I never really liked Williams' music for Episodes 1 to 3, but this time he really outdid himself.

Thnks for this one!!!

Well, I never really liked Williams' music for Episodes 1 to 3, but this time he really outdid himself.

Actually, I noticed this music very similar to the Prequel Trilogy, mainly Episode III. Listening to these albums side by side, (Revenge of the Sith, The Force Awakens) they go together well, well enough, at least. On top of that, "Palpatine's Teachings" and "Snoke" are extremely similar. They do have a slightly different feeling though, given they are from different films.

No. This is entirely my own creation using a combination of the FYC and OST elements, as I described. I am in no sense leeching off anything. I spent two days putting this together in Cubase with meticulous editing, and mastering. I followed the mentioned spreadsheet as well as closely comparing both versions. It is a far more laboured over release than the other one, in actuality (sorry, but please read my initial post again to understand the lengths I went to). I have been very meticulous and attempted to honour Williams' sensibilities with the presentation.

Track 2 does not have a 'incorrect title'. It is the title I chose. Forgive me.

I linked to the other thread for the *cover* - simply. My former awareness of the thread's existence should not be a problem.

You have been rather rude. I hope your attitude is not representative of the majority of this community, to which this is my first contribution. Again, this took a fair bit of my time that I did for the enjoyment of fans (including myself). The 'week too late' comment - come on, man, surely it's OK to have more than one fan edit? And as for the 2 minutes shorter, there'll be a fair reason - probably removal of looped/reprised material - or, I've missed a passage here or there, which I did explain I would like to have pointed out to me so that I can make revisions.

You haven't done anything wrong. Don't let people like that get in the way of your contributions to this community. Thanks for the share.

Oh ya, don't stop playing with it, but you'll never be wholly satisfied with the results knowing a lossless source is on the horizon.

That didn't bother me. I've imported all the audio sources into the 'pool' in Cubase, so when the lossless version arrives, it's simply a matter of replacing those sources (takes 2 seconds). All the edits will I've made remain in-tact - just need to export the tracks again (and refine the FYC mastering a little if needed - again, easy, as it is globally applied to the FYC channels group). :)

The joys of a good DAW!

thanks! great score. glad to have the chance to hear your work with the various elements available.

Thank you share!

Thank you!!! Fantastic job!!!

Actually, I noticed this music very similar to the Prequel Trilogy, mainly Episode III. Listening to these albums side by side, (Revenge of the Sith, The Force Awakens) they go together well, well enough, at least. On top of that, "Palpatine's Teachings" and "Snoke" are extremely similar. They do have a slightly different feeling though, given they are from different films.

Even though I didn't like the prequel soundtracks, the last was undeniable the best, maybe because it was getting pretty close to the the original Star Wars timewise and John used -or reused- some of the original themes.

Thanks for your work on fixing the mastering issues between the different sources. It was worth the wait.

Thanks for this new edit. Despite all the hubbub at the start of this post, thanks for sharing your new version, your efforts are much appreciated. I'm excited to hear this, and just from reading your various attempts here, sounds like this will be a lovely improvement. Excited for new music already!

Thanks for sharing this, it sounds really good considering the limited quality of the FYC. I appreciate your attempt at mastering the FYC tracks as well, makes them blend together a little better.

I don't understand all the drama on the first page, there is plenty of room here for many people's different takes on this score. Anyone that listens to this edit and Clone's will notice the differences, I thank you both for your efforts! If every Zimmer score can have 1000 different threads then I don't see the problem with a handful of TFA threads.



That didn't bother me. I've imported all the audio sources into the 'pool' in Cubase, so when the lossless version arrives, it's simply a matter of replacing those sources (takes 2 seconds). All the edits will I've made remain in-tact - just need to export the tracks again (and refine the FYC mastering a little if needed - again, easy, as it is globally applied to the FYC channels group). :)

The joys of a good DAW!

I'm not a music editor so I am not familiar with Cubase. If/when the lossless track leaks, what if there are slight track time differences? Wouldn't that throw off some of your edit points? Just curious.

Thank you for your work on this and for sharing it with us! I'm excited to listen to it. I can't seem to get enough of this soundtrack.

I'm not a music editor so I am not familiar with Cubase. If/when the lossless track leaks, what if there are slight track time differences? Wouldn't that throw off some of your edit points? Just curious.
It would indeed! But I think that's unlikely to happen if the FYC CD is ripped correctly. However, if it does, I shall just have to offset the ripped tracks by adding padding/trimming to the sources. Still won't need to adjust edits!

thanks

Thanks for your time, efforts and sharing!

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And sounds incredibly well!

thanks for this !

Thanks, moo0z0r -- a great effort! Don't listen to the haters :)

Found and uploaded this - the FYC @ 320. I didn't feel the need to start another SW thread.

If someone wishes to make another edit with this version that would be fine. If it was me though, I'd wait until a lossless version is made available.

Mega (https://mega.nz/#!G80CSQyJ!UQT7wHEmKj_cWnKoaHlscUh7bV5nP4Dk38K5kRm_GUo)

It would indeed! But I think that's unlikely to happen if the FYC CD is ripped correctly. However, if it does, I shall just have to offset the ripped tracks by adding padding/trimming to the sources. Still won't need to adjust edits!

Thanks for answering my questions, got one more. When a lossless leak of the FYC appears, assuming it is true lossless, will consider switching out some of the OST tracks you decided to use, like the longer finale from the FYC?

Found and uploaded this - the FYC @ 320. I didn't feel the need to start another SW thread.

If someone wishes to make another edit with this version that would be fine. If it was me though, I'd wait until a lossless version is made available.

Mega (https://mega.nz/#!G80CSQyJ!UQT7wHEmKj_cWnKoaHlscUh7bV5nP4Dk38K5kRm_GUo)

Yeah, I think I will. Because you can convert to everything with lossless. That means I'll upload an all lossless version, and an all 320 Kbps version.


It would indeed! But I think that's unlikely to happen if the FYC CD is ripped correctly. However, if it does, I shall just have to offset the ripped tracks by adding padding/trimming to the sources. Still won't need to adjust edits!

Don't worry, The FYC King will make sure it's ripped correctly when and if he gets it. ;)

Found and uploaded this - the FYC @ 320. I didn't feel the need to start another SW thread.

If someone wishes to make another edit with this version that would be fine. If it was me though, I'd wait until a lossless version is made available.

Mega (https://mega.nz/#!G80CSQyJ!UQT7wHEmKj_cWnKoaHlscUh7bV5nP4Dk38K5kRm_GUo)
Interesting. Will check this later. Might just be the 160 kbps version transcoded?

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Don't know why everyone is so concerned with waiting for lossless. When it appears that's cool - it's a piece of piss to swap out the elements.

Found and uploaded this - the FYC @ 320. I didn't feel the need to start another SW thread.

If someone wishes to make another edit with this version that would be fine. If it was me though, I'd wait until a lossless version is made available.

Mega (https://mega.nz/#!G80CSQyJ!UQT7wHEmKj_cWnKoaHlscUh7bV5nP4Dk38K5kRm_GUo)
It's a transcode from 160k. Thanks though.

Thanks for answering my questions, got one more. When a lossless leak of the FYC appears, assuming it is true lossless, will consider switching out some of the OST tracks you decided to use, like the longer finale from the FYC?

I've used the elements that I thought sounded the best in terms of the musical performance. But I wasn't aware of any material missing from the finale. Would you mind pointing out where this is?

It is just missing a cut-out segment of the March of the Resistance Concert Suite which can be heard on the FYC track (hence why it's almost 10 mins long versus 8ish..)

It is just missing a cut-out segment of the March of the Resistance Concert Suite which can be heard on the FYC track (hence why it's almost 10 mins long versus 8ish..)

Yes. That was intentional because the concert version is only a track or two later.

Thank you for this, you've done a great job!

Yes. That was intentional because the concert version is only a track or two later.
I was answering your question?

I was answering your question?

Heh, misread! :)

Thanks

gracias�����

Is the track with the Imperial March that plays when Kylo is monologuing to Vader's helmet included on the FYC, and if not, has anyone identified whether it's a completely new track or something re-used from a previous score?

I am enjoying this, thank you! Best score of 2015 IMHO.

Yes, I know, Morricone's Hateful 8 is the best score of the year.

Thank you

Thanks!

I gave this a listen last night. You did a really great job. Thank you for this.

Thanks for this.

Thanks a lot for this, it's much appreciated!

Is the track with the Imperial March that plays when Kylo is monologuing to Vader's helmet included on the FYC, and if not, has anyone identified whether it's a completely new track or something re-used from a previous score?
I believe that the so-called cue I Will Finish What You Started is newly recorded, but it hasn't been released.

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Has anyone noticed this, by the way ~snip~?

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Has anyone noticed this, by the way?
Sweet, now it's going to skyrocket (bid-wise) Thanks for that!

Has anyone noticed this, by the way

Come ON, dude. :facepalm:

Oh, just realized that's not good. :/

Come on, give this guy a break, maybe he didn't know at all, he meant no bad.

Is there a huge difference between the FYC and soundtrack though?

Come ON, dude. :facepalm:
I think people do this on purpose. Well, at least I have my Dreamworks friend who could possibly get me a copy (for free as well).

He managed to get me a copy of Bridge of Spies (though that is Dreamworks)..

I'm sure he'll be able to get this one for me, and if he does, I'll be sure to get him something nice in return.

Yeah, it's really a moot point to argue about posting eBay links to things like this, but it has shown in the past that the bid starts skyrocketing, almost coincidentally.

Ah well, nothing to get worked up about. Sorry Ponyo, sorry moo0z0r.

*chuckles*

I'm sure he'll be able to get this one for me, and if he does, I'll be sure to get him something nice in return.

http://i.imgur.com/0xYRgjn.gif

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Is there a huge difference between the FYC and soundtrack though?

Different mixing, different content... ask Clonemaster.

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Oh, just realized that's not good. :/

And can you remove it from your post too?... just to be safe... :erm:

I forgot to consider how active this community is and therefore to notice the level of faux-pas-ness of my actions. Cringe!

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Is there a huge difference between the FYC and soundtrack though?

In a nutshell, yes. A decent breakdown of the differences can be found here (http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25940-the-force-awakens-fyc-release-discussion-film-spoilers-allowed/&do=findComment&comment=1206488).

Thanks.

Thank you very much!!!

Many thanks!

Everytime I've seen the movie I forgot to check, but does anybody know which version of the end credits is the film version? I assume it's the longer FYC track.

Thanks, just gave this a listen and it sounds very smooth. However - just wondering why you chose the OST End Credits instead of the longer FYC version (since the OST has microedits?). I actually kind of like the FYC version, just my opinion. But great work.

Thanks

Thanks, just gave this a listen and it sounds very smooth. However - just wondering why you chose the OST End Credits instead of the longer FYC version (since the OST has microedits?). I actually kind of like the FYC version, just my opinion. But great work.
Actually, I agree with you. I'll change the release to use the FYC version!

Hmmm...I thought I mentioned that as well :laugh:

Hmmm...I thought I mentioned that as well :laugh:

You did! I can just see there's a demand for this so I'm changing my mind. :)

Thank you for this!

Many thanks for this :) Much appreciated!

Notice: New Revision!

Hi, folks. I've revised the edit slightly based on some feedback and some realisations I made about the editing of the FYC.

Revision 3 - Differences:

Instances of tracking/micro-loops fixed in Follow Me and The Falcon
Includes full March of the Resistance rendition in The Jedi Steps and Finale
Tweaked mastering on FYC elements
Other subtle improvements

Download (https://mega.nz/#!9M1UDLTS!YJsEmQaPg9zopT0y-lFfROgA-hjHtDx72GZHNOJ9h00)
The download link can also be found in the original post, which I've just updated.

Enjoy! :)

P.S. Feedback always welcome.

Thanks!!

Thanks for the update Moo0z0r! I look forward to listening to it and picking up on the changes you've made!

Thank you for your meticulous work on editing the material. I enjoyed it very much.

maybe you can add "burning homestead" into the way of the Force ?

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http://www.jwfan.com/?p=8489

maybe you can add "burning homestead" into the way of the Force ?

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http://www.jwfan.com/?p=8489
I'd rather not add in tracked material!

Hadn't noticed rev3, downloading now. Thanks man! :)

I'd rather not add in tracked material!

I 100% agree, it may work fine in the film where sound effects can cover up edit points and other differences but, it just doesn't work good as a listening experience, IMO. Mixing a 1977 LSO recording with a 2015 LA orchestra recording just sounds odd to my ears. I like what Williams wrote for that scene more anyway and think the filmmakers made a bad choice by tracking in that piece of music from ANH, IMO. After spending the whole film making a connection with Rey and her theme, his original music is just more effective for my taste.

On the other hand, if the filmmakers' idea was to make a connection between a pivotal moment for Luke from ANH and a pivotal moment for Rey, maybe hinting at their family relationship, it works. In the end, I just don't think it sounds good mixed together, especially with the awkward first edit point.


I want to hear your new revisions but, I'm trying to wait for a true lossless version of the FYC to leak before I download it again. We'll see how long I can hold out.

I 100% agree, it may work fine in the film where sound effects can cover up edit points and other differences but, it just doesn't work good as a listening experience, IMO. Mixing a 1977 LSO recording with a 2015 LA orchestra recording just sounds odd to my ears. I like what Williams wrote for that scene more anyway and think the filmmakers made a bad choice by tracking in that piece of music from ANH, IMO. After spending the whole film making a connection with Rey and her theme, his original music is just more effective for my taste.

On the other hand, if the filmmakers' idea was to make a connection between a pivotal moment for Luke from ANH and a pivotal moment for Rey, maybe hinting at their family relationship, it works. In the end, I just don't think it sounds good mixed together, especially with the awkward first edit point.


I want to hear your new revisions but, I'm trying to wait for a true lossless version of the FYC to leak before I download it again. We'll see how long I can hold out.

Ditto.

Thanks :)

ok but it's expanded version, not movie version...

ok but it's expanded version, not movie version...
This particular edition focuses on presenting the music as a body of work in its own right - as expansively and coherently as possible.

Thanks a lot!

This particular edition focuses on presenting the music as a body of work in its own right - as expansively and coherently as possible.

Uuuuh, moo0z0r? (Thread 198840):D :D

Cool! I'll update it today. :)

Cool! I'll update it today. :)

You have to PM Zaralyth to get it but the response time is usually akin to The Flash's top speed lol :p You'll get it soon. I anxiously await your FLAC update :D

Thanks for rev3!!

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You have to PM Zaralyth to get it but the response time is usually akin to The Flash's top speed lol :p You'll get it soon. I anxiously await your FLAC update :D

Dave999: Thanks for all the covers!

Dave999: Thanks for all the covers!
No problem, glad you like em ;)

Loved the existing expanded version, look forward to the new update. And I know this is blasphemy to some, but I would ask if it's possible to do a film version of "Ways of the Force" as a bonus track, even though it commits the great crime of using tracked music! Even though I instantly recognised what the music was, it made that moment in the movie a bit special, for a moment transporting me back across the decades to when "Star Wars" was brand new. Would love to have that cue available for replay.

Loved the existing expanded version, look forward to the new update. And I know this is blasphemy to some, but I would ask if it's possible to do a film version of "Ways of the Force" as a bonus track, even though it commits the great crime of using tracked music! Even though I instantly recognised what the music was, it made that moment in the movie a bit special, for a moment transporting me back across the decades to when "Star Wars" was brand new. Would love to have that cue available for replay.

Read up. This very same page clearly states he won't do a film version of WOTF with the Burning Homestead/Binary Suns/Force Theme/whateveryouwantttocallit tracked music because he doesn't like using tracked music for this release. And in another post (also on this very page) he said it's not a movie version but a "particular edition focusing on presenting the music as a body of work in its own right - as expansively and coherently as possible."

Short answer: No, probably going to happen.

Read up. This very same page clearly states he won't do a film version of WOTF with the Burning Homestead/Binary Suns/Force Theme/whateveryouwantttocallit tracked music because he doesn't like using tracked music for this release. And in another post (also on this very page) he said it's not a movie version but a "particular edition focusing on presenting the music as a body of work in its own right - as expansively and coherently as possible."

Short answer: No, probably going to happen.

Yeahhhh, I read all that, so that's why I felt it necessary to plead the case for the opposite view in hopes of swaying some consideration towards that option. :rolleyes:

I suppose it's not really that much of a problem, because if any one particular editor won't do it, there will be others who will!

Notice: New Revision!

Hi, folks. I've revised the edit to use the new lossless FYC release.

Revision 4 - Differences:

Using lossless FYC elements
Using FYC take of end credits from The March of the Resistance to the end of the track
Tweaked mastering on FYC elements (sounding slick!!)

Download (https://mega.nz/#!xQEEBL5D!Ja4eHcUATIGTEND5xLD_1LqN70PQh_g9FQB-tXjeBm4)
The download link can also be found in the original post, which I've just updated.

Enjoy! :)

P.S. Feedback always welcome.

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Loved the existing expanded version, look forward to the new update. And I know this is blasphemy to some, but I would ask if it's possible to do a film version of "Ways of the Force" as a bonus track, even though it commits the great crime of using tracked music! Even though I instantly recognised what the music was, it made that moment in the movie a bit special, for a moment transporting me back across the decades to when "Star Wars" was brand new. Would love to have that cue available for replay.

I just think the edit will sound ugly. It sounds fine under sound effects in the film - but it will sound jarring on its own.

I just think the edit will sound ugly. It sounds fine under sound effects in the film - but it will sound jarring on its own.

Yeah, I don't disagree, but it's just a cool moment in the film.


And re: "Feedback always welcome." ….. Listening to the updated version now, and it's verrrry good… :)

FANTASTIC! That was FAST! :D

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Yeahhhh, I read all that, so that's why I felt it necessary to plead the case for the opposite view in hopes of swaying some consideration towards that option. :rolleyes:

I suppose it's not really that much of a problem, because if any one particular editor won't do it, there will be others who will!

There's already a movie version floating around here but it could sound a bit better than it does, tbh (not that it sounds bad).

Thanks for all your editing work, moo0z0r, well done! Quite enjoyable!

Thanks to you and Zaralyth for this update! Both of you are lighting fast :)

Hi, what changes did you have of "The ways of the force"? In FYC version, the length is 3:59 and your is 4:47

Hi, what changes did you have of "The ways of the force"? In FYC version, the length is 3:59 and your is 4:47

The OST version is edited to remove the cool Scherzo for X-Wings stuff that appears in the FYC, while the FYC doesn't have the opening minute or so that the OST has.

Thank you!

BTW I don't know if I'm the first one noticing that the OST album includes more music from The Attack of The Jakku Village than the FYC promo.
In the album, in the begining of the attack there is a string theme from 3:08 to 3:27 (which I love), whereas in the FYC promo that part is shortened into 3:35 to 3:43. Actually you can listen the cut in the FYC into the new part, whereas in the OST that section seems untouched.

Probably along the OST there are another missing sections... I hope someone would be interested in making a "extended" version including music leaved outside the movie :)

Thank you again for this expanded version!

awesome work, thanks a bunch!

Thank you!

BTW I don't know if I'm the first one noticing that the OST album includes more music from The Attack of The Jakku Village than the FYC promo.
In the album, in the begining of the attack there is a string theme from 3:08 to 3:27 (which I love), whereas in the FYC promo that part is shortened into 3:35 to 3:43. Actually you can listen the cut in the FYC into the new part, whereas in the OST that section seems untouched.

Probably along the OST there are another missing sections... I hope someone would be interested in making a "extended" version including music leaved outside the movie :)

Thank you again for this expanded version!

Thanks. I'll check that out.

FYI
Wish they had included the part where the Falcon crashes on Starkiller Base up to when Finn, Han and Chewy get inside. That piece of music was pretty good...

Thanks. I'll check that out.

You're welcome :) I'm happy to help finding missing sections. This is one of those cases where the FYC and OST album have some little changes very easy to miss.

Thanks for your efforts and sharing, Mr.moo0z0r!

Oh, what the heck - I seem to be in a SW kind of mood today. I'm really looking forward to hearing what you've done with this. So far. Looks like a work in progress. Have to admit, there are some great moments on the soundtrack album, but I'm not really that excited by it. Hoping that your edits and additions and revisions will kick it up a notch or three. It seems straining to break loose and soar and I don't know if it's the original recording that's holding it back or the movie itself. Looking forward to finding out. The time and effort you're putting into this is above and beyond and very much appreciated!

Thanks once again, I was looking foward for this update!

Thank you so much for updating your edit with the lossless FYC! This will do just fine until hopefully Disney release an official expanded album (I know, wishful think for now)!

Thanks for sharing.

FYI
Wish they had included the part where the Falcon crashes on Starkiller Base up to when Finn, Han and Chewy get inside. That piece of music was pretty good...

Yes, there seems to be a lot of interest for this unreleased cue!

Hello moo0z0r!
Just for interest, will you do update your edit with the new FYC Lossless now?
Just want to know...

Hello moo0z0r!
Just for interest, will you do update your edit with the new FYC Lossless now?
Just want to know...

Already have mate. :P

many many thanks

Does anyone think it might be nicer to have the concert tracks dispersed throughout the album rather than all at the end? (Except for perhaps Scherzo for X-Wings)

Here's my film edit of The Ways of the Force

https://mega.nz/#!hxNwFDjD!hQXujPf1ZPWOMU-7DhUDOUmYUhmAiDcm5DZqMehJsBI
Includes the '77 inserts. Is identical to the film except for the 22 seconds of unreleased audio before the FYC section of the piece, and I chopped 2 seconds off the start of The Return Home because it was a personal preference.

No the slates are not real, those are for my own purposes of keeping track of things.
Listen with headphones. The transition I made into the FYC section doesn't sound good on speakers.

Thanks for this edit. Sounds great.

Yes, I think those tracks fit nicely in the position Williams wants. That, the music ends with "The Jedi Steps and Finale"

Here's my film edit of The Ways of the Force

https://mega.nz/#!hxNwFDjD!hQXujPf1ZPWOMU-7DhUDOUmYUhmAiDcm5DZqMehJsBI
Includes the '77 inserts. Is identical to the film except for the 22 seconds of unreleased audio before the FYC section of the piece, and I chopped 2 seconds off the start of The Return Home because it was a personal preference.

Thanks for your edit! :) Sounds really similar to the film edit.

Thanks for the update after the lossless FYC hit!

Many thanks for the new lossless version!

Does anyone think it might be nicer to have the concert tracks dispersed throughout the album rather than all at the end? (Except for perhaps Scherzo for X-Wings)

I have always preferred them at the end but, that's just my personal preference.

mp3 or FLAC?

FLAC

Does anyone think it might be nicer to have the concert tracks dispersed throughout the album rather than all at the end? (Except for perhaps Scherzo for X-Wings)

If the score is arranged along a 2CD experience, yes: I'll put the concert versions at the end or beginning of the CD's (for example at the end of CD1 or begining of CD2)

When I make a playlist, I put them first - sort of an overture. Oh, and I put the 20th Century Fox fanfare before the main title too - now it's Star Wars!

When I make a playlist, I put them first - sort of an overture. Oh, and I put the 20th Century Fox fanfare before the main title too - now it's Star Wars!

Yes. But there is no fox logo for this.... not even a disney one. The first thing you see is lucasfilm logo then "a long time ago...."

thank you

Thanks for sharing and editing. Sounds pretty cool!

Folks just to let you know that the OST version of Snoke should go between Han and Leia / Finn and Poe, United and Bombing Run

Thank you!

BTW I don't know if I'm the first one noticing that the OST album includes more music from The Attack of The Jakku Village than the FYC promo.
In the album, in the begining of the attack there is a string theme from 3:08 to 3:27 (which I love), whereas in the FYC promo that part is shortened into 3:35 to 3:43. Actually you can listen the cut in the FYC into the new part, whereas in the OST that section seems untouched.

Probably along the OST there are another missing sections... I hope someone would be interested in making a "extended" version including music leaved outside the movie :)

Thank you again for this expanded version!

THIS. I look forward to Revision Version 5, moo0z0r. :) That's my favorite portion also, Minnasan! Very energetic and unique!

Thanks a lot!

Yes. But there is no fox logo for this.... not even a disney one. The first thing you see is lucasfilm logo then "a long time ago...."

I know, but I put the fanfare in anyway - ain't I a stinker?

THIS. I look forward to Revision Version 5, moo0z0r. :) That's my favorite portion also, Minnasan! Very energetic and unique!

Hey. The problem with this cue is that the FYC and OST versions are two entirely different revisions, so there's no way to naturally merge the segment you mentioned into the longer FYC version. I guess one version must have been recorded at the initial sessions, and the other at the later sessions after the film's edit had changed.

I could include it as an alternate (although not sure about a clean ending), but then I'm thinking, why not just listen to the OST?

Thank you so much for the new FLAC download!

Thank you so much for the new FLAC download!

Where's the FLAC version of this? :)

Thank you so much for this moo0z0r and thank you Zaralyth for the film edit of "The Ways of the Force"!

Thank you for the update.

Thank you for this.

Just wondering how similar/different your edit is compared to the one at http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25913-the-force-awakens-complete-score-breakdown-chronological-order-film-spoilers-allowed/ titled "Longer Chronological Edit of OST + FYC, In-Track Editing Required"?

Thanks for this! Sounds great!!

Just wondering how similar/different your edit is compared to the one at http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25913-the-force-awakens-complete-score-breakdown-chronological-order-film-spoilers-allowed/ titled "Longer Chronological Edit of OST + FYC, In-Track Editing Required"?

Hi. I used that guide to do my edit (as mentioned in first post). :)

Oh, this had slipped my mind. I'll still be revising my edit, though, it still probably won't be as good as yours. :p

Great work! Love the CD covers. I was personally disapointed with the cover on the official release.

Thanks a lot for your work!!! I'm just listening. May the force be with you! :)

Thanks so much for your effort.

many many thanks for you great work moo0z0r!!!

Notice: New Revision!

Hi, folks. I've revised the edit slightly.

Revision 5 - Differences:

Using FYC take of The Jedi Steps and Finale in its entirety (better performance than OST, imo)
Using extended FYC ending in Torn Apart
Improved editing in The Ways of the Force
Improved mocked up intro in Maz and Rey
Improved mocked up outro in Arrival at Takodana (viewed the film for a second time - this reflects the actual outro more accurately)
Re-ordered tracks so that the concert tracks are dispersed throughout the album

Download (https://mega.nz/#!wFt3WSKR!BjxLIrhLVw7cizAGMUcdPBVTVuMF1Db5SZi4xY_y8Fg)
The download link can also be found in the original post, which I've just updated.

Enjoy! :)

P.S. Feedback always welcome.

Thank you very much! Downloading now! :) So when will the final ultimate edition come out?

Thanks again! :)

Notice: New Revision!

Hi, folks. I've revised the edit slightly.

Revision 5 - Differences:

Using FYC take of The Jedi Steps and Finale in its entirety (better performance than OST, imo)
Using extended FYC ending in Torn Apart
Improved editing in The Ways of the Force
Improved mocked up intro in Maz and Rey
Improved mocked up outro in Arrival at Takodana (viewed the film for a second time - this reflects the actual outro more accurately)
Re-ordered tracks so that the concert tracks are dispersed throughout the album

Download (https://mega.nz/#!sRtXRCSD!HckZjtyJ_LjcE-XdXucN2vVRiquUACpaXKIAR89lxAo)
The download link can also be found in the original post, which I've just updated.

Enjoy! :)

P.S. Feedback always welcome.

Thanks for the revisions list. That way I can just pick out the tracks you've changed and dump the rest :)

Hey. The problem with this cue is that the FYC and OST versions are two entirely different revisions, so there's no way to naturally merge the segment you mentioned into the longer FYC version. I guess one version must have been recorded at the initial sessions, and the other at the later sessions after the film's edit had changed.

I could include it as an alternate (although not sure about a clean ending), but then I'm thinking, why not just listen to the OST?

It's true that they are probably two different recordings so in order to make an extended cue it would take quite an effort just to "unify" the sound and that won't even perfectly match. It's a pity they left outside the movie that portion of the score.

And thank you for the revision 5, moo0z0r!!

Notice: New Revision!

Hi, folks. I've revised the edit slightly.

Revision 5 - Differences:

Using FYC take of The Jedi Steps and Finale in its entirety (better performance than OST, imo)
Using extended FYC ending in Torn Apart
Improved editing in The Ways of the Force
Improved mocked up intro in Maz and Rey
Improved mocked up outro in Arrival at Takodana (viewed the film for a second time - this reflects the actual outro more accurately)
Re-ordered tracks so that the concert tracks are dispersed throughout the album

Download (https://mega.nz/#!wFt3WSKR!BjxLIrhLVw7cizAGMUcdPBVTVuMF1Db5SZi4xY_y8Fg)
The download link can also be found in the original post, which I've just updated.

Enjoy! :)

P.S. Feedback always welcome.

Thanks for version 5.

Thanks

Thanks again for your hard work - now version #5! Great, moo0z0r! :)

Thanks for new version!

Thanks for the update!

Seriously. Thank you for all the work you've put into this.

Thanks a ton for your efforts! Can't wait to listen.

Thank you, moo0z0r, for your hard work. Much appreciated. May The Force Be with You!

Thanks for the continued improvements. Good thing I have lots of blank CDs.

Hey. The problem with this cue is that the FYC and OST versions are two entirely different revisions, so there's no way to naturally merge the segment you mentioned into the longer FYC version. I guess one version must have been recorded at the initial sessions, and the other at the later sessions after the film's edit had changed.

I could include it as an alternate (although not sure about a clean ending), but then I'm thinking, why not just listen to the OST?

Hi. I'm new to this music, may I add a word? I think an alternate version would be a great solution. Also, it sounds to me that the beginning of "The Attack on Jakku Village" on the OST is faster than the beginning of the same cue on track 1 of FYC? Is that so?

http://i.imgur.com/oItsMWG.gif

Thank you so much for the update!

Hi. I'm new to this music, may I add a word? I think an alternate version would be a great solution. Also, it sounds to me that the beginning of "The Attack on Jakku Village" on the OST is faster than the beginning of the same cue on track 1 of FYC? Is that so?

Yes the tempi between the two revisions vary in many places.

Will consider alternates. Might just dump them in a separate folder in the release.

Yes the tempi between the two revisions vary in many places.

Will consider alternates. Might just dump them in a separate folder in the release.

Thanks for replying. Just saw the message! :) I've listened to your edit alone, and what great sound! :) The tweaking in the mastering of the FYC elements makes the audio better to listen to, at least for me. Thanks for all that you've done! :)

Many Thanks!

Thank you for all the hard work on this. Much appreciated.

Awesome! Thanks a lot.

amazing, thanks!!!

Thank you very much for this. I really like your arrangement of the tracks and appreciate your work!

Thank you for all your work and a great share!

Notice: New Revision!

Hi, folks. I've revised the edit slightly.

Revision 5 - Differences:

Using FYC take of The Jedi Steps and Finale in its entirety (better performance than OST, imo)
Using extended FYC ending in Torn Apart
Improved editing in The Ways of the Force
Improved mocked up intro in Maz and Rey
Improved mocked up outro in Arrival at Takodana (viewed the film for a second time - this reflects the actual outro more accurately)
Re-ordered tracks so that the concert tracks are dispersed throughout the album

Download (https://mega.nz/#!wFt3WSKR!BjxLIrhLVw7cizAGMUcdPBVTVuMF1Db5SZi4xY_y8Fg)
The download link can also be found in the original post, which I've just updated.

Enjoy! :)

P.S. Feedback always welcome.

Yet to download your revision, but looking back on the thread I saw Zaralyth's mix of "The Ways of the Force" and noticed that he missed a section -- the film version of the score tracks in some music from "The Attack on the Jakku Village" immediately preceding the "Scherzo"-music.

EDIT: Yeah, just listened to yours, it's missing as well. Here's a mix (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/80lb057tz03p8f0/AAB9MGlMoIYxHv9cqtTKuKA_a?dl=0) I made of the track, complete with absolutely shit edits. :p This track is a nightmare -- the "Burning Homestead"/"The Return Home" section seems to be a bit slower in the film, and the edits are masked by the SFX.

EDIT #2: Just read an earlier post where you said you didn't want to insert tracked music. :p Another instance is a bit of the music found in "The Ways of the Force" tracked into the scene where Poe is brought before Kylo at the beginning of the movie.

Thanks a lot!

Great you are....thank you a lot!

This is pretty awesome, looking forward to listening to it.

Thank you

Wonderful! Thanks moo0z0r :)

This is great, thanks :)

Thanks for the updated edits

did you use the attack on the jakku villiage from the OST? because that is an unused cue, unfortunately, even though its so much better than the one they really use. The one they use is from the fyc called "jakku villiage part1"

Just read an earlier post where you said you didn't want to insert tracked music. :p Another instance is a bit of the music found in "The Ways of the Force" tracked into the scene where Poe is brought before Kylo at the beginning of the movie.

I love tracked music, someone should really make an edit of those tracks so we can beef up this score version some more :)

I love tracked music, someone should really make an edit of those tracks so we can beef up this score version some more :)

I'm sure as soon as Blu-ray rips start surfacing someone will get right on that.

And I don't mean me :p

I just wanted to say that this edit is my preferred listening format of this score. It has all of the “stuff” I wanted, and sounds great.

Thank you!

just a quick comment, not criticism. I as well made an edit like this, except much less professional sounding in terms of mixing. The only suggestion I have is the track "that girl with the staff" is actually 3 different cues from 3 different parts of the movie. I'm not saying you should change it because it sounds rough when split up but just wanted to let you know if you didn't. One part is from a quick scene when rey first sees finn and chases him around and ends up knocking him in the face with her staff. another part is when kylo ren flips shit the first time with his lightsaber, and the last part is a cue from maz's palace when the resistance/first order spies report "we've found the droid." Not sure why, but they put all three of these cues into one song and called it "that girl with the staff."

just a quick comment, not criticism. I as well made an edit like this, except much less professional sounding in terms of mixing. The only suggestion I have is the track "that girl with the staff" is actually 3 different cues from 3 different parts of the movie. I'm not saying you should change it because it sounds rough when split up but just wanted to let you know if you didn't. One part is from a quick scene when rey first sees finn and chases him around and ends up knocking him in the face with her staff. another part is when kylo ren flips shit the first time with his lightsaber, and the last part is a cue from maz's palace when the resistance/first order spies report "we've found the droid." Not sure why, but they put all three of these cues into one song and called it "that girl with the staff."

Entirely speculation, but I'd assume that since two of the cues have to do with Rey (and both with the characters not knowing who she is) that's why they titled the track that way.

Aaaand, it's down.

I know I'm late to the game, but can anybody re-up this?



***

And it's up again :)

(...don't know how that happened...)

very cool. thanks

Notice: New Revision!

Hi, folks. I've revised the edit slightly.

Revision 5 - Differences:

Using FYC take of The Jedi Steps and Finale in its entirety (better performance than OST, imo)
Using extended FYC ending in Torn Apart
Improved editing in The Ways of the Force
Improved mocked up intro in Maz and Rey
Improved mocked up outro in Arrival at Takodana (viewed the film for a second time - this reflects the actual outro more accurately)
Re-ordered tracks so that the concert tracks are dispersed throughout the album

Enjoy! :)

P.S. Feedback always welcome.

So I'm listening to your version now for a few days and I must really say, I enjoy this tremendous score even more now, you really did a wonderful job to amplify the strengths and fix the tiny, occasional flaws. Bravo!

For example, it always bugged me on the OST, that the prominent cymbal clash right between Jedi Steps and Finale missed its cue. On your version however it is spot on! Is the FYC really an entirely different recording? What else did you change about the End Credits track? I feel like the two final cymbal clashes on the March of the Resistance section were a bit weak on the OST. Now they feel just like they do on the regular track, bold and powerful. Did you edit in the regular track in its entirety?

Also, something else I've noticed: You actually have two tracks named Snoke. Was that intentional? I'd like to re-name one of them, maybe you could suggest an alternate track title for one of the two?

Thanks for all the hard work!

So I'm listening to your version now for a few days and I must really say, I enjoy this tremendous score even more now, you really did a wonderful job to amplify the strengths and fix the tiny, occasional flaws. Bravo!

For example, it always bugged me on the OST, that the prominent cymbal clash right between Jedi Steps and Finale missed its cue. On your version however it is spot on! Is the FYC really an entirely different recording? What else did you change about the End Credits track? I feel like the two final cymbal clashes on the March of the Resistance section were a bit weak on the OST. Now they feel just like they do on the regular track, bold and powerful. Did you edit in the regular track in its entirety?

Also, something else I've noticed: You actually have two tracks named Snoke. Was that intentional? I'd like to re-name one of them, maybe you could suggest an alternate track title for one of the two?

Thanks for all the hard work!

The 2:03 track Snoke is actually a concert suite, much like Rey's Theme, Scherzo for X-Wings and March of the Resistance. You could rename it to Snoke (Concert Suite) so you know which is which? The regular Snoke which lasts 2:08 is moo0z0r's film mix (if you will) I think.

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just a quick comment, not criticism. I as well made an edit like this, except much less professional sounding in terms of mixing. The only suggestion I have is the track "that girl with the staff" is actually 3 different cues from 3 different parts of the movie. I'm not saying you should change it because it sounds rough when split up but just wanted to let you know if you didn't. One part is from a quick scene when rey first sees finn and chases him around and ends up knocking him in the face with her staff. another part is when kylo ren flips shit the first time with his lightsaber, and the last part is a cue from maz's palace when the resistance/first order spies report "we've found the droid." Not sure why, but they put all three of these cues into one song and called it "that girl with the staff."

OST retail albums always blend cues together to allow the tracks to flow better into one another.

OST retail albums always blend cues together to allow the tracks to flow better into one another.

More so, Williams cuts his albums like this. Since the beginning. I hate it.

Also, the original cues are microedited to flow "easier". For example, listen to the OST cue "The Falcon" or "I Can Fly Anything" compared to their respective FYC versions. By this point of view, I wouldn't know what's better. Some FYC cues are actually "heavy" to listen.

Thanks moo0z0r!

I already said thanks, but I wanted to say thanks again for all the continued work on this. It's the only version I listen to now - it's so good!

I already said thanks, but I wanted to say thanks again for all the continued work on this. It's the only version I listen to now - it's so good!

Yes, the same can also be said of me! I can never thank enough!! It's also the only version I listen to now. Great work!

Many thanks for the revision!

Thanks+++

Thank you for this treat!

Thanks for your efforts, moo0z0r - much appreciated!

Thanks Thanks my friend :)

Obrigado !!!

Another great score from Williams. Thanks for your edit. :)

does anyone have the track played from when Han says "Its True..all of it"

Hi moo0z0r, are you planning to make another revision of your expanded set now that the Bluray is out? :)

Thank you moo0z0r! :-D

Awesome edit!


I've made an alternate cover for this, based on the fantastic cover heidl made for the OST, based on the Target exclusive version.

(click on the image for the full 1500x1500 resolution)
(http://imgur.com/K1uBzVH)

Many thanks. :)

Thanks for your great work!

does anyone have the track played from when Han says "Its True..all of it"

Search for the custom Complete Score by Faleel. It's available on the Shrine.

Hi fans!

I've made a lovely expanded edit of The Force Awakens using a combination of the FYC and OST releases. This edit should be as complete as possible given the available material. I used the spreadsheet guide here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rDuRXT-67ETwF2cy4lNkgp5AV_QcIDivxUwCLtLOGfg/pubhtml) kindly compiled by JWFan's Jason LeBlanc.

Covers
(http://imgur.com/eGHKw1F) (http://imgur.com/noWhhtq)
Many thanks Dave999 for these (Thread 198296).

I've tried to keep the presentation as true to Williams' intentions as I could imagine. Most instances of nasty edits or looping that occur in places on both the FYC and OST editions have been fixed. This release also features clean intros and outros, when appropriate. I have mocked these up where needed (only a couple of times - and sounds natural). Also - I've kept any intended segues between tracks.

Where alternate takes of the same material between the FYC/OST occur - I have chosen the take that I personally prefer - and based on the opinions I've gathered from a few others.

I've also slightly mastered the FYC elements to give the mix more presence, and match the OST.



It makes for a decent and coherent listen.

Tracklist
01 Main Title and The Attack on the Jakku Village (6:52)
02 Jakku Village Massacre (1:54)
03 The Scavenger (2:28)
04 Lunchtime (1:22)
05 Rey Meets BB-8 (1:31)
06 I Can Fly Anything (4:16)
07 Finn's Trek (1:34)
08 Rey's Theme (3:11)
09 Follow Me and The Falcon (6:48)
10 That Girl with the Staff (1:59)
11 The Rathtars! (4:06)
12 Snoke (2:08)
13 Arrival at Takodana (0:41)
14 You Got A Name? (1:32)
15 Maz Examines Finn (1:28)
16 I'm No Hero (1:05)
17 Maz and Rey (1:48)
18 The Starkiller (1:53)
19 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:14)
20 The Resistance (1:33)
21 The Abduction (2:25)
22 Han and Leia / Finn and Poe, United (4:41)
23 March of the Resistance (2:36)
24 Snoke (2:03)
25 The Bombing Run (2:05)
26 On The Inside (2:54)
27 Torn Apart (4:53)
28 The Ways of the Force (4:47)
29 Farewell and The Trip (4:56)
30 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:59)
31 Scherzo for X-Wings (2:32)

Total duration: 1:34:13

Download (https://mega.nz/#!wFt3WSKR!BjxLIrhLVw7cizAGMUcdPBVTVuMF1Db5SZi4xY_y8Fg)
Revision 5 (19 Jan 2016 (Thread 198296))

I'm open to any feedback if I have missed some material or any improvements could be made. :)

Thanks a lot!!!!

Thank you

Thanks

grateful thanks for your work moo0z0r!!!

Thank you, Moo0z0r, for your effort!

Thanks for the share�

Here's my film edit of The Ways of the Force

https://mega.nz/#!hxNwFDjD!hQXujPf1ZPWOMU-7DhUDOUmYUhmAiDcm5DZqMehJsBI
Includes the '77 inserts. Is identical to the film except for the 22 seconds of unreleased audio before the FYC section of the piece, and I chopped 2 seconds off the start of The Return Home because it was a personal preference.

No the slates are not real, those are for my own purposes of keeping track of things.
Listen with headphones. The transition I made into the FYC section doesn't sound good on speakers.

NOOOOOOOOO
It's gone, anyone else has this one?

Shameless bump. :D