Max2304
12-22-2015, 05:50 PM
Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens [Expanded Edit] mp3~128kbps


cover source here (http://hqcovers.net/2015/12/17/star-wars-the-force-awakens-by-john-williams-2/)


I make a custom version of the score with the original release and the tracks from the FYC version
Sorry for the quality
Thanks for Lockdown for the FYC here (Thread 197982)
and Gururu for the first track here (Thread 197990)


Tracklist by Lockdown:


CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF OST + FYC:

Score:
OST 01A [0:00-1:26] (1:26) Main Title {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
FYC 02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
OST 02 The Scavenger (3:39) {FYC tracks 3 and 4 contain less music, but clean ending / opening}
OST 04B [1:10-end] (0:21) BB-8 Meets Rey {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
FYC 06 Finn�s Trek (1:35)
FYC 07 Follow Me and The Falcon (7:09)
OST 08 That Girl with the Staff (1:58) {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
OST 09 The Rathtars! (4:05) {FYC track 8 is only one section of this}
FYC 09 Snoke (2:07)
OST 10B [0:52-end] (1:16) "Arrival At Takodana" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
OST 11A [0:00-1:21] (1:21) "Maz Examines Finn" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 11 I�m No Hero (1:06)
OST 11B [1:21-end] (1:46) "Maz and Rey" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 12 The Starkiller (1:52) or OST 12 The Starkiller (1:51)
FYC 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15) or OST 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:01)
FYC 14 The Resistance (1:35)
OST 14 The Abduction (2:25) {FYC track 15 is only one section of this}
OST 15 Han and Leia (4:41) {FYC track 16 is only one section of this}
FYC 17 The Bombing Run (2:07)
FYC 18 On The Inside (2:54)
FYC 19 Torn Apart (4:24) or OST 19 Torn Apart (4:19)
OST 20A [0:00-0:45] (0:45) "Rey Gets The Lightsaber" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
FYC 21 The Journey Home (2:18)
FYC 22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
FYC 23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)


CONCERT ARRANGEMENTS
OST 06 Rey's Theme (3:11)
OST 16 March of the Resistance (2:35)
OST 17 Snoke (2:03)
OST 21 Scherzo for X-Wings (2:32)




https://mega.nz/#!blYRWZCC!bQ8XdEjJhg0bKvfWm540xGJWJm45Ng4bCOapEEwQOvc

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 05:56 PM
I guess someone beat me to it. I think I'll do it anyway and see how it differs from yours. I only did two tracks last night.

gururu
12-22-2015, 06:03 PM
Postponing for an FYC lossless will have obvious advantages, but thanks for taking the time and effort to offer us an advanced preview of things to come.

cinescribe
12-22-2015, 06:04 PM
This is great...but why would you do it at 128kbps, and not retain as much of the original quality of both as possible?

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 06:06 PM
This is great...but why would you do it at 128kbps, and not retain as much of the original quality of both as possible?

That's what I'm going to try to do. The FYC is still 160 though.

Calidoran
12-22-2015, 06:22 PM
... wow. Re-encoding from 160 to 128. Thanks for the effort, but even my old ears will hear that ;)

roflrick
12-22-2015, 06:46 PM
The edits where certain tracks required splitting—specifically the fades on those tracks—sound great, Lockdown.

DAKoftheOTA
12-22-2015, 06:48 PM
Cool, thanks. Never grabbed the FYC last night as I was waiting for an expanded set albeit in lossless, but this will do for now.


The edits where certain tracks required splitting—specifically the fades on those tracks—sound great, Lockdown.

Uhh this isn't Lockdown's thread....?

Quantum16
12-22-2015, 06:54 PM
Thanks a ton, man! You guys work so fast...

vje11
12-22-2015, 06:55 PM
Thanks a lot

DAKoftheOTA
12-22-2015, 07:35 PM
Yikes. No offense OP, but this sounds like garbage. No doubt due to the 160k files being downconverted to 128k. This is exactly what I was talking about last night when I said this:


I don't know why you guys are in such a rush, you should wait for the physical disc. Cause then someone else is just gonna have to do it again in lossless.

I'm not even gonna download the FYC. With my OCD I will not be able to choose between FYC & OST and I cannot have more than 1 of the same album synced on my phone, so OST it is....until someone makes a lossless expanded set.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 07:40 PM
Yikes. No offense OP, but this sounds like garbage. No doubt due to the 160k files being downconverted to 128k. This is exactly what I was talking about last night when I said this:

I'm going to try to keep it to 160/320. It shouldn't sound so bad that way. I don't see why they were downcoverted on this one. I'll also re-do it when there is a lossless source available to work with.

Lockdown
12-22-2015, 07:43 PM
No, to prevent further audio damage, you should keep or transcode the files to a lossless format to prevent that.

DAKoftheOTA
12-22-2015, 07:44 PM
No, to prevent further audio damage, you should keep or transcode the files to a lossless format to prevent that.

I thought Sonic said you don't do that otherwise transcoding from MP3 to lossless only screws it up even more? I read something like that in his Spider-Man 3 Deluxe Edition thread.

max_stein
12-22-2015, 07:47 PM
Thank you for all the work you did to make this

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 07:47 PM
No, to prevent further audio damage, you should keep or transcode the files to a lossless format to prevent that.

To prevent what? I'm just saying, the FYC files are 160, the OST files are 320, I'm just editing them and exporting them as 320. Then, when we get a lossless source, I'll do it again, it can all be 320, no audio damage.

Lockdown
12-22-2015, 07:47 PM
That would be the first time I've heard something like that. I think what he said was, the transcoded 128k files were converted to 320k or something and then to a lossless format.. I thought it was only each time you convert lossy to lossy it loses data...but if you converted lossy to lossless it preserves all the data from that lossy file..

raybond
12-22-2015, 07:48 PM
Thanks for sharing, great cover.

DAKoftheOTA
12-22-2015, 07:49 PM
Ahhhh ok. Got it.

Lockdown
12-22-2015, 07:49 PM
Because 160k files already have 90% of the data compressed and if you convert it again to a lossy file, it will compress even more of that data. The OST is available in many lossless formats..so not sure why you would be using 320k files which could very well be a transcode in and of themselves.

TheSkeletonMan939
12-22-2015, 07:52 PM
Yikes. No offense OP, but this sounds like garbage. No doubt due to the 160k files being downconverted to 128k. This is exactly what I was talking about last night when I said this:

More like this is what happens when the OP has no idea about what transcoding means or does.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 07:53 PM
Because 160k files already have 90% of the data compressed and if you convert it again to a lossy file, it will compress even more of that data. The OST is available in many lossless formats..so not sure why you would be using 320k files which could very well be a transcode in and of themselves.

All I'm saying is that I'll be using the best quality available, of course still being 320 and under. If there is combinations between and FYC file and OST file, that file will be a mixture of 160/320.

TheSkeletonMan939
12-22-2015, 07:53 PM
Because 160k files already have 90% of the data compressed and if you convert it again to a lossy file, it will compress even more of that data. The OST is available in many lossless formats..so not sure why you would be using 320k files which could very well be a transcode in and of themselves.

Yep. Lossy -> Lossy = BAD!!
Lossy -> Lossless =Good!

gururu
12-22-2015, 07:54 PM
Technically, since there's no compression or inflation involved in lossless production you're not actually "transcoding" anything.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 07:59 PM
You know what? Screw it, I'll just make it all 60 Kbps, that way EVERYONE can enjoy it. :laugh:

James (The Disney Guy)
12-22-2015, 08:01 PM
I'm Willing to Give This A Shot. Thanks For The Work OP!

DAKoftheOTA
12-22-2015, 08:29 PM
You know what? Screw it, I'll just make it all 60 Kbps, that way EVERYONE can enjoy it. :laugh:

Ahh man, can't you make it 16k? PLEEEEEZZZZZZEEE!!!!

Captain Scarlet
12-22-2015, 08:31 PM
Dude! I appreciate the share and all but..... Jesus Christ! This sounds terrible. Unlistenable. I feel like I've just had my eardrums raped. One of the worst encodes I've heard in a long time. Time to go back to the drawing board fella.

Imperivm
12-22-2015, 08:33 PM
Thanks Max! :) Don't worry for the quality. I'd have done the same

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 08:35 PM
Ahh man, can't you make it 16k? PLEEEEEZZZZZZEEE!!!!

Too late now, I've already got it down to 6k. :p


Dude! I appreciate the share and all but..... Jesus Christ! This sounds terrible. Unlistenable. I feel like I've just had my eardrums raped. One of the worst encodes I've heard in a long time. Time to go back to the drawing board fella.

That's why I'm doing my own edit for the best quality, 160/320 is the best we can get for now, or 160/Lossless.

Lockdown
12-22-2015, 08:38 PM
That's why I'm doing my own edit for the best quality, 160/320 is the best we can get for now, or 160/Lossless.
No offense, but you're not understanding what I'm trying to say at all.

TheSkeletonMan939
12-22-2015, 08:40 PM
That's why I'm doing my own edit for the best quality, 160/320 is the best we can get for now, or 160/Lossless.

To preserve quality, you really shouldn't be taking these 160k files and converting them to 320 at all. If you're converting them to MP3 (not recommended) you ought to do it in VBR-0 only... otherwise it should be to lossless alone.

Lossy -> lossy is like making a photocopy of a photocopy... the quality gets worse each time.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 08:41 PM
No offense, but you're not understanding what I'm trying to say at all.

What exactly are you trying to say? Because what I'm doing now, is going to be 160/320. And then, I'll re-so it later so it can all be 320, or lossless. Are you saying you want me to up convert it to lossless?


To preserve quality, you really shouldn't be taking these 160k files and converting them to 320 at all. If you're converting them to MP3 (not recommended) you ought to do it in VBR-0 only... otherwise it should be to lossless alone.

Lossy -> lossy is like making a photocopy of a photocopy... the quality gets worse each time.

I understand. So, save them at a variable bitrate instead?

Lockdown
12-22-2015, 08:48 PM
Well you're 'upconverting' (more like transcoding) to a lossy file. but if you're converting to a lossless format you're not transcoding/upconverting persay, because you're keeping all the data or the original file, which is how it should always be done.

Does that make any sense?

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If you have to split FYC tracks or combine with the OST, those should all be lossless files. Untouched FYC files that don't need split can remain 160k mp3s. There would be no reason to convert them if you aren't going to edit them, forgot to mention that.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 08:49 PM
Well you're 'upconverting' (more like transcoding) to a lossy file. but if you're converting to a lossless format you're not transcoding/upconverting persay, because you're keeping all the data or the original file, which is how it should always be done.

Does that make any sense?

Yes, definitely. So, I should export these as lossless, then I can convert it 320? I can have two versions.

Okay, I need to get a lossless version of the soundtrack now, I was working with a 320 one. Good thing I didn't do much editing.

TheSkeletonMan939
12-22-2015, 08:49 PM
Dude! I appreciate the share and all but..... Jesus Christ! This sounds terrible. Unlistenable. I feel like I've just had my eardrums raped. One of the worst encodes I've heard in a long time. Time to go back to the drawing board fella.

Wow, now I kind of want to listen to it, just to hear the beautiful destruction of the sound. :laugh:

Lockdown
12-22-2015, 08:50 PM
Never mind.


2. Mp3's: I won�t provide them. Don�t do them either, it would be another transcode and fuck up the sound even more.

TheSkeletonMan939
12-22-2015, 08:51 PM
Yes, definitely. So, I should export these as lossless, then I can convert it 320? I can have two versions.

:facepalm: Much to learn, you have.

Dave999
12-22-2015, 08:52 PM
I thought it was fast to see this pop up, now I know why :p

gururu
12-22-2015, 08:53 PM
…what I'm doing now, is going to be 160/320. And then, I'll re-so it later so it can all be 320, or lossless. Are you saying you want me to up convert it to lossless?

Whenever editing a lossy file, export to a lossless format, e.g. FLAC, ALAC.

Saving or exporting to another lossy bitrate only removes additional sound data.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 08:58 PM
Okay, so let me get this straight: Work with a lossless version of the OST, and of course the 160 FYC files. And just export it all as lossless?

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Okay, so let me get this straight: Work with a lossless version of the OST, and of course the 160 FYC files. And just export it all as lossless?


:facepalm: Much to learn, you have.

Oh yes.

Quantum16
12-22-2015, 08:58 PM
I'm having weird problems with this archive... when I extract it using Windows Explorer I get an "unexpected error" and the copying process is "interrupted". I've never gotten that error in my lifetime of extracting anything. Also, the file names are incomplete like "Main Title/The Attack on the J" and the music sounds distorted, like I'm listening to it in a tunnel, and when I use 7-zip, I extract it to a folder and nothing happens. The files simply do not appear in my desired directory.

TheSkeletonMan939
12-22-2015, 08:58 PM
Okay, so let me get this straight: Work with a lossless version of the OST, and of course the 160 FYC files. And just export it all as lossless?

For tracks that require cutting and splicing FYC and OST tracks together, then you export lossless.

If it's an FYC track that's totally unreleased, leave it alone and just tag it to match with the rest of the files.

Lockdown
12-22-2015, 08:58 PM
I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but just to be safe, if you're combining FYC tracks or splitting them, convert them to lossless before doing so. I don't know if that is necessary or not, but it's better safe then sorry.

James (The Disney Guy)
12-22-2015, 09:01 PM
Covers....Just Incase... :erm:




DAKoftheOTA
12-22-2015, 09:02 PM
I'm having weird problems with this archive... when I extract it using Windows Explorer I get an "unexpected error"

Because Windows is trying to be useful for once and prevent you from even listening to it. Save your time, trouble and bandwidth.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 09:05 PM
For tracks that require cutting and splicing FYC and OST tracks together, then you export lossless.

If it's an FYC track that's totally unreleased, leave it alone and just tag it to match with the rest of the files.

Yeah, no reason to do anything with them.


I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but just to be safe, if you're combining FYC tracks or splitting them, convert them to lossless before doing so. I don't know if that is necessary or not, but it's better safe then sorry. Now, wouldn't that result in loss of quality? Wouldn't it be better to just edit them as 160 files and save as lossless?

gururu
12-22-2015, 09:08 PM
Yeah, no reason to do anything with them.

Now, wouldn't that result in loss of quality?

As I mentioned upstairs, there is no up/down conversion in a lossless production flow. Lossless is lossless. Ergo: no data loss.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 09:10 PM
As I mentioned upstairs, there is no up/down conversion in a lossless production flow. Lossless is lossless. Ergo: no data loss.

Oh. Duh. :p

gururu
12-22-2015, 09:14 PM
Oh. Duh. :p


CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 09:22 PM




"Hang on Ma!"

Quantum16
12-22-2015, 09:23 PM
Because Windows is trying to be useful for once and prevent you from even listening to it. Save your time, trouble and bandwidth.

Haven't read the entire argument, but yeah, in retrospect upconverting 320 from 160 is senseless. I'll just wait for someone to remake this. :P

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-22-2015, 09:25 PM
Haven't read the entire argument, but yeah, in retrospect upconverting 320 from 160 is senseless. I'll just wait for someone to remake this. :P

That's not what I'm doing now. You can look forward to my edit if you want to.

Quantum16
12-22-2015, 11:34 PM
That's not what I'm doing now. You can look forward to my edit if you want to.

I think I will. I appreciate the effort. :)

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-23-2015, 12:12 AM
I'm going to let everyone know, I'm working with "FLAC / Lossless / Log (100%) / Cue" under the CD section in Lilu's thread: Thread 197826
Thank you Lilu. And I want to thank all you guys for tellin me how it is! ;)

roflrick
12-23-2015, 01:24 AM
Shouldn't the workflow for this be something along the lines of importing all files in their native bit rate, making edits, then bouncing out at the bit rate of the lowest quality file? If you export at 160kbps, the FYC files wouldn't suffer any real degradation, at least not audibly.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-23-2015, 01:28 AM
Okay, so let me get this straight: Work with a lossless version of the OST, and of course the 160 FYC files. And just export it all as lossless?

---------- Post added at 01:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:57 PM ----------




For tracks that require cutting and splicing FYC and OST tracks together, then you export lossless.

If it's an FYC track that's totally unreleased, leave it alone and just tag it to match with the rest of the files.

This is what I'm doing.

BlastHard
12-23-2015, 01:46 AM
This is freakin amazing, thank you Max!

JasonB1
12-23-2015, 02:05 AM
Thank You !

The_Bearded_One
12-23-2015, 02:10 AM
We're getting closer to a recording sessions release...thank you!

SonicAdventure
12-23-2015, 02:22 AM
Yikes. No offense OP, but this sounds like garbage. No doubt due to the 160k files being downconverted to 128k.

With my Spider-Man 3 post, I tried to point out how - sorry - bad re-encoding is and how it�ll destroy the sound. Going from 160k to 128k. The only possible way NOT to loose any further quality, is by going from 160k to lossless (-> FLAC).

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I'm going to try to keep it to 160/320. It shouldn't sound so bad that way. I don't see why they were downcoverted on this one. I'll also re-do it when there is a lossless source available to work with.

This sounds like going from 160k to 320k is some form of upconverting. It is not. I say it simple: it�s bad. Why? You�re downconverting not the datarate but the quality. You�re destroying everything a great many people worked very hard for. Including the music. I don�t know why that isn�t logical.

EDIT: Oh, I�m sorry... I should have read the whole thread and I would have discovered it has all been answered already. Sorry.

The_Bearded_One
12-23-2015, 02:24 AM
Just curious, I don't see the track "Finn's Confession" from the OST on this edit...did you leave it out or is it part of another track...I haven't seen the movie yet, so I'm not sure where it would go chronologically...

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-23-2015, 02:35 AM
Just curious, I don't see the track "Finn's Confession" from the OST on this edit...did you leave it out or is it part of another track...I haven't seen the movie yet, so I'm not sure where it would go chronologically...

It's in there, just titled differently.

Edit: Its cool SonicAdventure, I'm basically done with it now and will upload in a little bit.
It's turning out really well.

The_Bearded_One
12-23-2015, 02:42 AM
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It's in there, just titled differently.

Oh, Ok...after further examination of your original post, I see that...guess I got a little too excited...lol Thanks!

SonicAdventure
12-23-2015, 05:55 AM
It's in there, just titled differently.

Edit: Its cool SonicAdventure, I'm basically done with it now and will upload in a little bit.
It's turning out really well.

Fantastic! :) And sorry for my rant. For a few days, I haven't been myself. Lack of sleep...

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-23-2015, 05:57 AM
Fantastic! :) And sorry for my rant. For a few days, I haven't been myself. Lack of sleep...

Its okay, Just finished up the edit. I'm going to upload it now.

DAKoftheOTA
12-23-2015, 06:07 AM
Fantastic! :) And sorry for my rant. For a few days, I haven't been myself. Lack of sleep...

Damn, Spider-Man 3 is that bad, huh? :p


Its okay, Just finished up the edit. I'm going to upload it now.

YAY

May god have mercy on your soul if it sounds as bad as the one posted earlier today.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-23-2015, 06:21 AM
Damn, Spider-Man 3 is that bad, huh? :p



YAY

May god have mercy on your soul if it sounds as bad as the one posted earlier today.

:laugh: Just waiting to hear back from Lockdown, I wanted to see what he thought before I upload it.

DAKoftheOTA
12-23-2015, 06:38 AM
:laugh: Just waiting to hear back from Lockdown, I wanted to see what he thought before I upload it.

Good. A proof-listen is always recommended.

Quantum16
12-23-2015, 06:40 AM
Surely it can't be as bad as the version that not only failed basic extraction functions, but managed to possess percussion akin to ball bearings slamming against a snare drum in a thunderstorm.

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-23-2015, 06:42 AM
Good. A proof-listen is always recommended.


Surely it can't be as bad as the version that not only failed basic extraction functions, but managed to possess percussion akin to ball bearings slamming against a snare drum in a thunderstorm.

Yeah, I just have to correct a issue with about 3 songs being full cues instead of the way I edited them from the OST/FYC chronological tracklist Lockdown posted. He told me it would flow better. So, should be a half-hour at the most.

DAKoftheOTA
12-23-2015, 06:46 AM
Surely it can't be as bad as the version that not only failed basic extraction functions, but managed to possess percussion akin to ball bearings slamming against a snare drum in a thunderstorm.

:laugh:

CLONEMASTER 6.53
12-23-2015, 08:35 AM
Damn, its this one stupid track that both Lockdown and I are currently confused about! :p

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Okay! It's done. I'll upload tomorrow before 12 PM central time.

darth2602
12-23-2015, 10:53 AM
where is lunchtime , Finn and Poe, United ,... ?

SonicAdventure
12-23-2015, 03:00 PM
Damn, Spider-Man 3 is that bad, huh? :p

:D

Nah, Spidey was already bad without any involvement of mine ;)

Dave999
12-23-2015, 05:33 PM
Damn, its this one stupid track that both Lockdown and I are currently confused about! :p

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Okay! It's done. I'll upload tomorrow before 12 PM central time.


castas
01-01-2016, 12:06 AM
Thank you

worldcup94
04-25-2017, 12:45 PM
thanks