Splicing of OST "Main Title" with FYC "The Attack on the Jakku Village, Part 1".

Bitrate: Lossless
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Duration: 6:52


Note:

05/20/17: NEW lossless edit.

It's only a fraction of a second more, but this edit with the itsy bitsy push-off most closely approximates the segue from Main Title to "Starry Night".

Supplemental: Curious to know the reason the main title was left off in the first place.


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Note: A look at the waveform reveals the OST was mastered for LOUDNESS.

Tragic, but not unexpected. Thanks for the edit!

Curious to know the reason the main title was left off in the first place.

Because the Main Title is just the same cue from the original star wars and was not scored for TFA.

Because the Main Title is just the same cue from the original star wars and was not scored for TFA.

I overlooked that.

Because the Main Title is just the same cue from the original star wars and was not scored for TFA.

Are you sure about this? The Main Title sounded like a completely different and all-together brand-new recording to me in the theater. Sounded nothing like the main titles recorded for ANH, TESB, RotJ or TPM.

Are you sure about this? The Main Title sounded like a completely different and all-together brand-new recording to me in the theater. Sounded nothing like the main titles recorded for ANH, TESB, RotJ or TPM.

But its still the same cue, just re-recorded for the film.. its not a piece of original score written for this specific film, which is one of the stipulations for a score to be qualified for the Oscar.

Are you sure about this? The Main Title sounded like a completely different and all-together brand-new recording to me in the theater. Sounded nothing like the main titles recorded for ANH, TESB, RotJ or TPM.

Yes, there is a difference in orchestration, but Faleel used the word "scored", as in: composed for the film, which it obviously wasn't.

Still doesn't make sense. Han and Leia's theme, the Force Theme, and the infamous end credits intro is all included on the FYC. Probably more I am missing.

Are you sure about this? The Main Title sounded like a completely different and all-together brand-new recording to me in the theater. Sounded nothing like the main titles recorded for ANH, TESB, RotJ or TPM.

It is newly recorded but I think what Faleel means is that it is music written for a previous Star Wars film and probably dose not need to be presented on a FYC

Pretty sure it was rescored, at least according to this http://www.jwfan.com/?p=8477

It was definitely rescored.....anyone with 2 ears can tell lol

I've even come close to lining up all the Main Titles in Audition and posting a screenshot for everyone to see how they all differ. None is identical to another.

It was definitely rescored.....anyone with 2 ears can tell lol

I've even come close to lining up all the Main Titles in Audition and posting a screenshot for everyone to see how they all differ. None is identical to another.

I think you're missing Faleel's point, regardless of minor differences in orchestration they're are all the same composition.

I think you're missing Faleel's point, regardless of minor differences in orchestration they're are all the same composition.

Oh no I see Faleel's point and I agree, I'm just stating to others that this rendition of the main title is clearly a re-recording

I'm just guessing, but maybe it has to do with Gustavo Dudamel? The CD booklet shows him as "Special Guest Conductor" for Main Title, The Starkiller, March of the Resistance, and Finale. The FYC cover lists Williams as Composer and Conductor.

I'm just guessing, but maybe it has to do with Gustavo Dudamel? The CD booklet shows him as "Special Guest Conductor" for Main Title, The Starkiller, March of the Resistance, and Finale. The FYC cover lists Williams as Composer and Conductor.

Well whoever made the FYC cover is wrong. William Ross conducted most of it.

And The Starkiller and Finale are on here, so.....busted.

I'm just guessing, but maybe it has to do with Gustavo Dudamel? The CD booklet shows him as "Special Guest Conductor" for Main Title, The Starkiller, March of the Resistance, and Finale. The FYC cover lists Williams as Composer and Conductor.
The FYC cover is fan made, not a legitimate promo cover for the FYC. And that still doesn't explain why Finale is here then, but it shouldn't matter. We should be complaining about why music we already have wasn't included on the FYC. I'm happy we have a lot of this score now. :)

The only time the main title recording was re-used verbatim was for the prequels.

They recorded it once for Episode 1 and re-used it for 2 and 3.

I Have Conducted On mine.... :erm:.... oh Well who Cares lol *shrugs*

I Have Conducted On mine.... :erm:.... oh Well who Cares lol *shrugs*

Keep that naughty talk for the GD. There may be children present. ;)

Hopefully once the physical disc pops up on eBay someone lucky enough here will kindly and generously share it (not whore it to themselves) so an expanded set can be made

Keep that naughty talk for the GD. There may be children present. ;)

I Meant My Soundtrack Cover........ :erm:

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Hopefully once the physical disc pops up on eBay someone lucky enough here will kindly and generously share it (not whore it to themselves) so an expanded set can be made

Well..... You Never Know......

Hopefully once the physical disc pops up on eBay someone lucky enough here will kindly and generously share it (not whore it to themselves) so an expanded set can be made

Anyone familiar enough with the OST and the FYC's new material to cobble together a track list?

I believe Clonemaster said he's give it a shot...

Would Be Cool.

Ahhh, I see what you mean Faleel. Still, it seems weird. Didn't mean to create a shitstorm.

To quote Han Solo: "Sorry about the mess..." lol

I believe Clonemaster said he's give it a shot...

I'll look forward to that, then.

I believe Clonemaster said he's give it a shot...


Would Be Cool.


I'll look forward to that, then.

*Shakes head really fast* Nu-uh! I said I might do it. Was it just placing the tracks of both the Official Release and FYC together? Is that what you guys wanted? If you want chronological order, it may take a bit longer, as I haven't seen the Film yet, I may be able to figure it out anyway though.

Fair enough, i guess i missed that...

Ahhh, I see what you mean Faleel. Still, it seems weird. Didn't mean to create a shitstorm.

To quote Han Solo: "Sorry about the mess..." lol

This is in no way a shitstorm. I see it as fans of the music having a discussion whilst learning things about it.

*Shakes head really fast* Nu-uh! I said I might do it. Was it just placing the tracks of both the Official Release and FYC together? Is that what you guys wanted? If you want chronological order, it may take a bit longer, as I haven't seen the Film yet, I may be able to figure it out anyway though.

That's just like you, George….

*Shakes head really fast* Nu-uh! I said I might do it. Was it just placing the tracks of both the Official Release and FYC together? Is that what you guys wanted? If you want chronological order, it may take a bit longer, as I haven't seen the Film yet, I may be able to figure it out anyway though.

Any sort of compilation would be appreciated. Someone else can figure out the chronology. :p

I'm just interested in the OST+FYC with no material repeating.

Basically and expanded...

CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER OF OST + FYC:

Score:
OST 01A [0:00-1:26] (1:26) Main Title {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
FYC 02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
OST 02 The Scavenger (3:39) {FYC tracks 3 and 4 contain less music, but clean ending / opening}
OST 04B [1:10-end] (0:21) BB-8 Meets Rey {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
FYC 06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
FYC 07 Follow Me and The Falcon (7:09)
OST 08 That Girl with the Staff (1:58) {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
OST 09 The Rathtars! (4:05) {FYC track 8 is only one section of this}
FYC 09 Snoke (2:07)
OST 10B [0:52-end] (1:16) "Arrival At Takodana" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
OST 11A [0:00-1:21] (1:21) "Maz Examines Finn" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
OST 11B [1:21-end] (1:46) "Maz and Rey" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 12 The Starkiller (1:52) or OST 12 The Starkiller (1:51)
FYC 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15) or OST 13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:01)
FYC 14 The Resistance (1:35)
OST 14 The Abduction (2:25) {FYC track 15 is only one section of this}
OST 15 Han and Leia (4:41) {FYC track 16 is only one section of this}
FYC 17 The Bombing Run (2:07)
FYC 18 On The Inside (2:54)
FYC 19 Torn Apart (4:24) or OST 19 Torn Apart (4:19)
OST 20A [0:00-0:45] (0:45) "Rey Gets The Lightsaber" {This cue is not on the FYC at all}
FYC 20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
FYC 21 The Journey Home (2:18)
FYC 22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
FYC 23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)


CONCERT ARRANGEMENTS
OST 06 Rey's Theme (3:11)
OST 16 March of the Resistance (2:35)
OST 17 Snoke (2:03)
OST 21 Scherzo for X-Wings (2:32)

You rock, Lockdown. Two steps ahead, as always. ;)

Thank Jay over at JWFan.

That's just like you, George….

Ha Ho Ho!!


Any sort of compilation would be appreciated. Someone else can figure out the chronology. :p

I'm just interested in the OST+FYC with no material repeating. I'll see what I can do.

Okay, nobody else do this, please, this would be my first contribution to the Film thread. Would you guys let me have this one? Oh, never mind. Wait no, scratch that, it needs editing, I'll post it tomorrow, okay guys?

Somebody, give Lockdown a medal
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And then tell him to give it to Jay.

So some tracks need cropping/editing.....

Thank Jay over at JWFan.

Ew, they changed their layout.

Thanks at least for bringing it to our attention. :p

I'm gonna make a nice edit hopefully.

So some tracks need cropping/editing.....

I might do this... the problem is I'm sure the spliced bits will stand out since the two discs are - I assume - mixed differently.

For example, when I mixed a Thor 2 OST track with end credits from the Blu-ray, I had to do a lot of extra stuff to both tracks to get them to transition seamlessly.

:( everytime i try and edit someting it blows up in my face... i will just keep the 2 seperate albums.
thanks for the tracklist.

…the problem is I'm sure the spliced bits will stand out since the two discs are - I assume - mixed differently…

Oh, ya. They're definitely mixed differently.

Added: FYC is still at -3db, while the OST is sustained at -1db due to applied loudness.

:( everytime i try and edit someting it blows up in my face...

Welcome to my life lol

Is that why you two always come to me for editing help? :laugh:

:( everytime i try and edit someting it blows up in my face... i will just keep the 2 seperate albums.
thanks for the tracklist.
Haha, I feel you on this one buddy!

Welcome to my life lol

Well, I Have 0 Experience, hence i can not make anything for myself, like mixes or Rips... everytime i do it is pointless and trash....

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Is that why you two always come to me for editing help? :laugh:

If i didn't have to i would not, i always feel really bad having to ask for stuff :(

Thank you share!

Haha, I feel you on this one buddy!

Yes, But You Make Up with It via the Cool Stuff you manage to aquire....

Seriously...

I will do everything in my power to obtain this FYC.

If i didn't have to i would not, i always feel really bad having to ask for stuff :(

Don't worry about it man, I love doing stuff for you guys. Really! :)

Many thanks!

Don't worry about it man, I love doing stuff for you guys. Really! :)

Well for sure my latest request is my last i gave up trying to get stuff from OUAT....
Thanks Tho.

Don't worry about it man, I love doing stuff for you guys. Really! :)

So, you guys want me to do this? Or are you doing it Skelly?

So, you guys want me to do this?

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Unless you're good at splicing different bits of audio together... since is more than just a re-tagging job.

I'll try to do it at some point. After Christmas.

Is that why you two always come to me for editing help? :laugh:

Well if you aren't "Editor Supreme" like your state you are, then you a phony.


I will do everything in my power to obtain this FYC.

Use the force.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8d/88/03/8d880372f01c6489d3c6bbca8d30a295.gif

Unless you're good at splicing different bits of audio together... since is more than just a re-tagging job.

I... Have some experience. If I can do one track successfully, I'll take up on the job.

If you think you can do it then I'd love to see you give it a shot, my plate's kinda full right now. Wanna take this to PM?

I... Have some experience. If I can do one track successfully, I'll take up on the job.

I don't know why you guys are in such a rush, you should wait for the physical disc. Cause then someone else is just gonna have to do it again in lossless.

I'm not even gonna download the FYC. With my OCD I will not be able to choose between FYC & OST and I cannot have more than 1 of the same album synced on my phone, so OST it is....until someone makes a lossless expanded set.

If you think you can do it then I'd love to see you give it a shot, my plate's kinda full right now. Wanna take this to PM?

Yeah.

I May Just stick With the 2 Albums... Best for me.

I May Just stick With the 2 Albums... Best for me.

I wish it were that easy for me, but it drives me up the flippin wall. I'd rather nails on a chalkboard or be drawn and quartered.

Its only becuase as i said before i notice no different in the sound so take what is kindly given.
i am happy with just the osts, thing like sessions/fyc/rips/fim mixes/edits, i only down if kindly shared with me or openly. I am not picky becuase at the end of the day people do not have to share, it just means the world to me if i am considered a friend or trust worthy person for them to share with.

Because the Main Title is just the same cue from the original star wars and was not scored for TFA.

Wrong. It doesn't match any of them.

Wrong. It doesn't match any of them.

And your late. Everybody's already in the jacuzzi.

:laugh:

Supposedly there will be an expanded 2 CD set next year in the beginning of 2016. Should be pretty nice if this news is legitimate.

And the vinyl isn't coming till spring. It's Interstellar all over again.

Supposedly there will be an expanded 2 CD set next year in the beginning of 2016. Should be pretty nice if this news is legitimate.

And what about the prequels, I wonder? What are the chances, ya suppose, that Disney might fork out for them eventually? Or does Lucasfilm still hold the rights? Or is it Sony that's holding all the cards in the deck?

Apparently they have the masters, they're just fucking sitting somewhere :/

And what about the prequels, I wonder? What are the chances, ya suppose, that Disney might fork out for them eventually? Or does Lucasfilm still hold the rights? Or is it Sony that's holding all the cards in the deck?

It's the studio that owns the music. Did Disney not purchase Lucasfilm? The way I see it, Disney now owns the music. They own the world.

Ahh, the old game of relasing multiple soundtrack versions... all for the name of a profit!!

It's the studio that owns the music. Did Disney not purchase Lucasfilm? The way I see it, Disney now owns the music. They own the world.

Ha! I hope these get released. :)

Apparently they have the masters, they're just fucking sitting somewhere :/

They just have to wait for Sony to lose their license. 2019 apparently.

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Wrong. It doesn't match any of them.

Its the same, just re-recorded and re-orchestrated, its still the same opening blast with a little ditty in the left channel which goes into the Luke's Theme A section, then the B section, then back the A section and then ending with the twinkly stuff.

They just have to wait for Sony to lose their license. 2019 apparently.

Sounds like Cameron with the Terminator rights.

Its the same, just re-recorded and re-orchestrated, its still the same opening blast with a little ditty in the left channel which goes into the Luke's Theme A section, then the B section, then back the A section and then ending with the twinkly stuff.

I'll be sure to pass that one along to John the next time I see him.

I do enjoy listening to a new recording of it and seeing how John re-orchestrated it for this film.

I do enjoy listening to a new recording of it and seeing how John re-orchestrated it for this film.

The sonic difference between the performance by the Hollywood Symphony and the London Symphony is quite striking; that, and the amount of reverb in the recording.

Also, I do find the forward mix of the opening triangle roll somewhat distracting. Sounds like a fire alarm.

It sounds more live, like the Boston Pops recordings, or the Children's Suite from the HP sessions.

Thanks for sharing this. My music editing skills are crap, so I'm glad I didn't have to attempt this.

Thanks for sharing this. My music editing skills are crap, so I'm glad I didn't have to attempt this.

Regrettably, until the sessions magically appear with a stand alone version of Awakens' main title track, the segue will still be missing about 2-3 seconds of the titles properly fading into the entrance of the Jakka Village track. And bringing the Jakka Village track in earlier simply doesn't work.

Regrettably, until the sessions magically appear with a stand alone version of Awakens' main title track, the segue will still be missing about 2-3 seconds of the titles properly fading into the entrance of the Jakka Village track. And bringing the Jakka Village track in earlier simply doesn't work.

Yeah, I had to fade out with a bit of reverb.

The more and more I play with recordings the less and less I'm a fan of reverb.

Thanks!

The more and more I play with recordings the less and less I'm a fan of reverb.

I like reverb, it has to fit the recording though, obviously. :p
Also, at the top of the page, you mention "pass that one along to John next time I see him", by John you mean, John Williams?

Yes, John Williams. But it was a joke. Faleel's droll description is too long for Twitter.

Yes, John Williams. But it was a joke. Faleel's droll description is too long for Twitter.

Oh. :p

Thanks!

It's really sad what you guys say about Sony Classical, I really like that label as a soundtrack label.

I don't know why you guys are in such a rush, you should wait for the physical disc. Cause then someone else is just gonna have to do it again in lossless.

I'm not even gonna download the FYC. With my OCD I will not be able to choose between FYC & OST and I cannot have more than 1 of the same album synced on my phone, so OST it is....until someone makes a lossless expanded set.

That :)

I don't know why you guys are in such a rush, you should wait for the physical disc. Cause then someone else is just gonna have to do it again in lossless.

I'm not even gonna download the FYC. With my OCD I will not be able to choose between FYC & OST and I cannot have more than 1 of the same album synced on my phone, so OST it is....until someone makes a lossless expanded set.

I know who I hope gets a hold of a true lossless version... It would be a great adventure.


Gururu, did you apply any volume normalization, or something, on your edited track? I'm hearing some odd volume things that I haven't noticed on the other fyc tracks.

Thanks a lot

I know who I hope gets a hold of a true lossless version... It would be a great adventure.


Gururu, did you apply any volume normalization, or something, on your edited track? I'm hearing some odd volume things that I haven't noticed on the other fyc tracks.

No, I left it alone.

Sure, I toyed with normalization, but had I gone that route I would have had to apply the same normalization to the entire FYC to avoid the dramatic perceptual difference between Jakku Part 1 and Jakku Part 2.

Because the main titles naturally fade away, segueing to the FYC Jakku Part 1 doesn't present as great a perceptual difference between how the OST is mastered and how the FYC isn't.

Still those 2 or 3 seconds missing from the main title fade out are apparent; it's subtle, but all too obvious when you're looking for it. I briefly attempted to improvise the missing seconds last night before I reminded myself I should really go back to work.

Thanks!

UPDATED: Mixdown 2 with improvised extension to Main Title fade out for subtler segue. See original post.

Thank you very much for sharing!

Supposedly there will be an expanded 2 CD set next year in the beginning of 2016. Should be pretty nice if this news is legitimate.

Source?

Any chance you could make the Main Title a separate track with a clean ending?

Any chance you could make the Main Title a separate track with a clean ending?

I've had this done since I was doing my edit, I hope its satisfactory.

MP3 320 Kbps: MEGA (https://mega.nz/#!gNUXgYxS!BRc26Y4xMUCkJ3xuEMABbSfcFou80ZS5c6jGh4dzmNU)
FLAC: MEGA (https://mega.nz/#!gB1TnTpY!IjqQ7R3cxtY_LNojwjfgNt-TA3EIquEcPH8dVTZTbfE)

You guys are great. I love your editing skills!

You guys are great. I love your editing skills!

gururu and I? Well thank you. :)

Very cool. Thanks gururu!

Any chance you could make the Main Title a separate track with a clean ending?

The bridge between the main theme and every "curtain raise" is based on Princess Leia's theme, and I've yet to uncover a version of her theme from which I could extract a sample with approximate orchestration to construct a clean fade out.

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You guys are great. I love your editing skills!

Thanks for the compliment.

YES!

This is why I returned to the forum.

So many works can easily by overlooked.

Your work, I look forward to.
And cry about when it comes to the end of Ep. VII.
That whole scene is enough to want to see it all again.

Thank you very much!

New entirely lossless, and more accurate edit, available upon request.

It has me pondering doing a complete score edit.

Hi, I'd like a link to this please, thank you!

thank you very much for the link

I would love to get a links, thanks!

Give me a link please?

link received, grateful thanks my friend!!!

Hi, I would like the link to this great work. Thank you!

New entirely lossless, and more accurate edit, available upon request.

It has me pondering doing a complete score edit.

Are you still sharing this gururu? I want to hear it!

Hey I'd love a link!

can i have the link please ? thanks a lot

Can you share the link, please?