TheSkeletonMan939
06-02-2015, 09:13 PM


Wallace and Gromit have been getting themselves caught up in offbeat adventures since 1990, starring in four short films and one feature length film. These stop-motion claymation films were all scored by Julian Nott, who brought the pair further to life. I watched Wallace and Gromit almost daily as a young'n and his music has been burned into my mind ever since. It's fantastic to finally listen to these scores on their own, and it was a pleasure putting together the contents of this thread, but it wasn't just me; this was a joint effort. James P. Sullivan suggested that someone get to work on grabbing this music, and provided me with some helpful advice on how to name and edit tracks; he also provided all of the wonderful cover art you see here! PonyoBellanote and CGCJ provided the 5.1 surround sound files necessary to make proper edits. Lockdown was kind enough to provide a copy of Julian Nott's promotional CD, which features several tracks from A Close Shave. pernclub has given me info on the technical aspect of the scores and corrected The Wrong Trousers for me, improving the quality of track 17. Everyone in the original request thread (Thread 189334) provided a lot of help and support, so thanks, guys!

A Grand Day Out



The one that started it all! Nott clearly has a lower budget here than in his other scores, but no matter: he still delivers a powerful and thrilling score nevertheless. There are almost no sound effects in this soundtrack, as most of the music was clean in the rear channels of the 5.1 mix. The synth bits sound a bit dated at times, but it just adds to the charm of the soundtrack, in my opinion. Every single cue from the film is here.

FLAC, 47 MB (http://www.mediafire.com/file/6sugsodla7di544/WG_Grand_Day.zip/file)

Tracklist
1) A Grand Day Out
2) Magazines
3) Cheese Holidays
4) The Moon
5) Building a Rocket
6) Job Well Done
7) Lighting the Fuse
8) Crackers
9) Liftoff
10) The Surface
11) Picnicking on the Moon
12) The Cooker
13) Clearing Up
14) Cooker's Dream
15) Cooker Attack
16) Cooker's Dream (Reprise)
17) Stowaway/The Fuse/Blastoff
18) Sad Cooker
19) Homemade Skis
20) The End

The Wrong Trousers



No doubt my favorite of them all, both story and score. Sound effects were strangely mixed in during the scene where track 2 plays, but every other cue is more or less very clean. Every single cue from the film is here, aside from the songs which are played on McGraw's radio. Track 17 is courtesy of Lockdown and pernclub; Lockdown provided the abbreviated track from Nott's promo CD and pernclub mixed it with the film version in order to provide the full cue.

Original, FLAC, 74 MB (http://www.mediafire.com/file/q1ws11b5lhsfg53/WG_WT.zip/file)

Tracklist

1) The Wrong Trousers
2) Birthday Morning
3) Techno Trousers
4) Time for a Walk
5) The Lodger
6) McGraw Sees the Trousers
7) Farewell, Gromit
8) Test Run/Have You Seen This Chicken?
9) A Shocking Calamity
10) The Plot Thickens
11) The Chicken
12) To the Museum
13) The Diamond - Part 1
14) The Diamond - Part 2
15) Museum Escape
16) A Club and a Gun
17) Train Chase
18) Another Adventure Ends
19) Credits


A Close Shave



Tragically, the sound mix for this one was unusable. The rear channels were only a (very) low-quality copy of the front channels, and the front channels were bathed in sound effects. No cue could be extracted cleanly - not even the end credits. Fortunately, Lockdown's promo CD contributed several tracks from this episode. No sound effects in this one, of course. Also, thanks to pernclub for letting me know that there were indeed six tracks for this short available, rather than five.

320kbps MP3, 24 MB (https://www.mediafire.com/file/ynox4tay5e2i83a/WG_ACS.zip/file)

Tracklist

1) A Close Shave
2) Wallace and Gromit Are Go
3) Shawn in the Machine
4) Chase
5) Factory
6) Cyberdog


A Matter of Loaf and Death



Like the movie itself, the score here is worth a listen once or twice, but not quite up to snuff. Sound effects were heavily mixed in to all channels, so some music had to be cut from this one. Lots of sound effects here, unfortunately, but hopefully nothing too unbearable.

FLAC, 90 MB (https://mega.co.nz/#!6MlwGaRS!zshekXMcCqpj_11HMMuAPed18svtU5RG2ph0h5i QquE)

Tracklist
1) Baker Bob's Demise
2) Wallace and Gromit, Bread Bakers
3) Piella
4) Wallace in Love
5) Romance
6) A Woman's Touch
7) Rain
8) Piella's True Nature
9) Engaged
10) Loose Cereal Killer
11) A Little Punishment
12) "I Hate Bakers!"
13) Cake
14) Meddling Mutt
15) Bomb
16) Trouble at the Mill
17) As Light as a Feather
18) Fluffles
19) Credits

Enjoy!

James (The Disney Guy)
06-02-2015, 09:19 PM
You Sir Are A Bloody Legend :)

James P.Sullivan
06-02-2015, 09:19 PM
Yes!! I'm so glad I started the request thread, and I'm very proud to have initiated the whole project. My heartfelt thanks to you, Skelly, for all your incredible work on this, and thanks also to Ponyo and CGCJ for helping provide the audio files.

I'm working on covers for Loaf and Death as I type.

Enjoy, everyone!! :D

James (The Disney Guy)
06-02-2015, 09:44 PM
Fantastic Work On The Wrong Trousers by Far My Fav ;)

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I'm working on covers for Loaf and Death as I type.
Will You Do Some In The Same Style For Curse of the Were-Rabbit?? Please

CGCJ
06-02-2015, 09:44 PM
Thank you so much for this! I take it you couldn't get anything Curse of the Were-Rabbit then...? (Or just decided not to as there is already a soundtrack release?) I cannot wait to hear The Wrong Trousers!

TheSkeletonMan939
06-02-2015, 09:46 PM
Thank you so much for this! I take it you couldn't get anything Curse of the Were-Rabbit then...? (Or just decided not to as there is already a soundtrack release?)

I'm not sure what to do with Were-Rabbit. There was a commercial soundtrack release, and if anyone has that please share it! If there are any cues from the film people want that aren't on the OST, then I can try to rip it.

But like I said, I've heard that the sessions are floating around in the trading circles... sooo.... if you have 'em, anyone, post 'em!

James (The Disney Guy)
06-02-2015, 09:55 PM
I'm not sure what to do with Were-Rabbit. There was a commercial soundtrack release, and if anyone has that please share it!
I Have It In 128Kbs Will That do Until A Better Release?

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And FYI Loaf And Death Does Not Sound Bad Actually Thanks

TheSkeletonMan939
06-02-2015, 10:11 PM
I Have It In 128Kbs Will That do Until A Better Release?

Sure! :D

James (The Disney Guy)
06-02-2015, 10:11 PM

MP3 128Kbs (All I Could Find At Present)
19 Tracks
50Mins Approx

Track Listings
1. A Grand Day Out
2. Anti-Pesto To The Rescue
3. Bless You, Anti-Pesto
4. Lady Tottington & Victor
5. Fire Up The Bun-Vac
6. Your Ladyship
7. Brainwash & Go
8. Harvest Offering
9. Arson Around
10. A Big Trap
11. The Morning After
12. Transformation
13. Ravaged In The Night
14. Fluffy Lover Boy
15. Kiss My Arrrtichoke
16. Dogfight
17. Every Dog Has His Day
18. All Things Fluffy
19. Wallace & Gromit

Link=
PM for Link

TheSkeletonMan939
06-02-2015, 10:12 PM
Thanks, Mr. Gold!

Also, hack3rman posted a couple tracks (Thread 124003) from Lorne Balfe's site a while ago...

James (The Disney Guy)
06-02-2015, 10:19 PM
Your welcome

CGCJ
06-02-2015, 10:20 PM
I don't see any over-lap with track titles with the tracks on Julian Nott's SoundCloud! Do we already have most of the score then!?

LeSamourai
06-02-2015, 10:20 PM
Thanks, SkeletonMan!

TheSkeletonMan939
06-02-2015, 10:22 PM
I don't see any over-lap with track titles with the tracks on Julian Nott's SoundCloud! Do we already have most of the score then!?

As far as I know very little material has been officially released... nothing on SoundCloud except for a theme and a bit from the movie.

CGCJ
06-02-2015, 10:27 PM
As far as I know very little material has been officially released... nothing on SoundCloud except for a theme and a bit from the movie.

I was referring to the track list of the Were-Rabbit soundtrack, it seems like we have quite a bit from that, but I'm just wondering if the two tracks (From Jullian's SoundCloud) 'Brainwash' and 'Wallace gets shot' over-lapped with the soundtrack at-all, hoping that they don't, so we could have even more from the film!

Edit: 'Wallace gets shot' over-laps with 'Dogfight' and 'Brainwash' over-laps with 'Brainwash & Go'...

Another edit: 'Dogfight' is on the soundtrack in its entirety and 'Queensbury Rules' over-laps with 'Transformation', so everything that is available is on the soundtrack...

zardoz22
06-02-2015, 10:35 PM
the commercial wererabbit release is varese.

James (The Disney Guy)
06-02-2015, 10:57 PM
the commercial wererabbit release is varese.

Fixed thankyou friend

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Wiki Says This Regarding The Wrong Trouser Radio Extract:

Also removed for the DVD (again for reasons of copyright) are two specific songs from the penguin's radio replaced with extracts from Hammond organ versions of "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree". The pieces that were removed are "Happy Talk" from the musical South Pacific and "(How Much Is) That Doggie in the Window?

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Originally in the BBC version of the film, Gromit's birthday card played Happy Birthday To You in the scenes where he opens it, and also when Wallace goes over to the picture to take out the piggy bank. When it was released on VHS and DVD in the UK and the US, Warner Bros. and BBC Enterprises changed it to For He's a Jolly Good Fellow to avoid copyright infringements. Also in the scene when Gromit is kept awake, Happy Talk and How Much is That Doggy in the Window were also removed and replaced with Hammond organ music. Tie A Yellow Ribbon had no copyright, so it was left in. Also Gromit's TV at breakfast no longer plays the Open University theme.

Makoy
06-02-2015, 11:54 PM
Thank you so much for this! :D

lalogrusinfoxfan65
06-03-2015, 03:02 AM
Thanks!

starfighter1984
06-03-2015, 05:56 AM
Thanks so much for these!!! I love the rocketship theme from A Grand Day Out - Nott makes the most of the instruments. BTW - anyone ever play the Wallace and Gromit PC games (the three pack) from many moons ago? I wonder if there is a score for those ... great puzzle games with some fantastic characters.

James P.Sullivan
06-03-2015, 06:26 AM
I used to play the petrified zoo game with a friend, if that's one of the ones you're talking about?

Sunshower
06-03-2015, 06:57 AM
My life is complete now. Literally can't thank you enough for your hard work, Skelly!

heidl
06-03-2015, 08:16 AM
Congrats to you all for this amazing share!
Even here in Austria we used to watch these shorts during my childhood. And now - years later - I'm showing them to my kids. Timeless classics!

Cristobalito2007
06-03-2015, 08:27 AM
This is outstanding

dekamaster2
06-03-2015, 08:46 AM
Thanks a lot!

James P.Sullivan
06-03-2015, 10:50 AM
Congrats to you all for this amazing share!
Even here in Austria we used to watch these shorts during my childhood. And now - years later - I'm showing them to my kids. Timeless classics!

I am literally SO proud of this whole project and of Skelly's work. Particularly The Wrong Trousers is better than I ever thought a rip would be. SO happy. :)

TheSkeletonMan939
06-03-2015, 02:20 PM
Particularly The Wrong Trousers is better than I ever thought a rip would be.

Ditto! Clean rips of 2 out of 4 films ain't bad!

Glad to see so many people are enjoying this! A small part of me hopes Nott sees this thread and considers producing actual OSTs...

I guess Aardman never wrote back to you?

James P.Sullivan
06-03-2015, 03:41 PM
Ditto! Clean rips of 2 out of 4 films ain't bad!

Glad to see so many people are enjoying this! A small part of me hopes Nott sees this thread and considers producing actual OSTs...

I guess Aardman never wrote back to you?

It certainly ain't!

That would be great. But I don't think he has a say in what happens to his music. I don't think he owns release rights.

And no, Aardman never replied. :(

djhippo
06-03-2015, 03:49 PM
Magnificent !!!!!

James (The Disney Guy)
06-03-2015, 04:07 PM
If i am honest the worst sounding of the four is loaf and death. That said it sounds good i am happy with it. Well done all.

http://i.imgur.com/UCPce17.gif

CGCJ
06-03-2015, 04:26 PM
Requests
- Material from the Shaun the Sheep spin-off series, with music by Mark Thomas!

I have a DVD of a few episodes, and while it's mixed in stereo, I can at-least get the credits music if anyone wants it. And I've also been able to get a few excerpts of the music from some of the online games, they're short and low quality (64-112kbps) but probably better than nothing, so, if you want that, just ask :)

James (The Disney Guy)
06-03-2015, 05:53 PM
I would be interested if you ever post thankyou.

CGCJ
06-03-2015, 06:47 PM
Shaun the Sheep Credits (https://mega.co.nz/#!ZFIE2Z5L!PfccmyZVggSzegKB6k3BMo-B7wBa48JtsxgSoVxdPHQ)
Shaun the Sheep music from the online games (unsorted) (https://mega.co.nz/#!1dxDUJ7I!NmV57mggE4yDETcvQiaREEIIxMEIT9X7S1D4CTW MBEw)

James (The Disney Guy)
06-03-2015, 06:55 PM
Excellent stuff thankou cgcj

CGCJ
06-03-2015, 07:43 PM
Some of the few Wallace and Gromit games on the official site have clean music from A Matter of Loaf and Death, but, unfortunately, in low quality.

TheSkeletonMan939
06-03-2015, 07:46 PM
Shaun the Sheep Credits (https://mega.co.nz/#!ZFIE2Z5L!PfccmyZVggSzegKB6k3BMo-B7wBa48JtsxgSoVxdPHQ)
Shaun the Sheep music from the online games (unsorted) (https://mega.co.nz/#!1dxDUJ7I!NmV57mggE4yDETcvQiaREEIIxMEIT9X7S1D4CTW MBEw)

WOW! That's a lot of music! Thanks! I'll add that to the main post sometime, with Mr. Gold's Were-Rabbit stuff.

Could you also rip the opening theme sometime?

CGCJ
06-03-2015, 07:50 PM
Could you also rip the opening theme sometime?

Sure, I'll get right on it.

kane_nr2
06-03-2015, 07:51 PM
Excellent thread, TheSkeletonMan.
Thank you very much for uploading these gems.

All the best,
kane

pvman
06-03-2015, 07:59 PM
My god, this is amazing. THANK YOU!!!

James (The Disney Guy)
06-03-2015, 08:01 PM
Some of the few Wallace and Gromit games on the official site have clean music from A Matter of Loaf and Death, but, unfortunately, in low quality.

Have You Got These?? Anyway

CGCJ
06-03-2015, 08:24 PM
Shaun the Sheep Opening Theme (https://mega.co.nz/#!wcw21TYZ!kVsXW9kFwGp2s3xXCnkToV4xQHEFQOEh1J4OoQC ohGw)

TheSkeletonMan939
06-03-2015, 08:27 PM
Wonderful! I'll have to compile all this Shaun the Sheep stuff sometime.

Uncle Bela
06-03-2015, 08:27 PM
Thanks for all the great shares. :)

CGCJ
06-03-2015, 08:31 PM
The cue 'Wallace and Gromit Bread Bakers' from A Matter of Loaf and Death I now have clean thanks to the official sites games! I'll post it once I've gone though all of the games audio.

James (The Disney Guy)
06-03-2015, 08:35 PM
The cue 'Wallace and Gromit Bread Bakers' from A Matter of Loaf and Death I now have clean thanks to the official sites games! I'll post it once I've gone though all of the games audio.

Thanks In Advance

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Do We Have Anyway Of Extracting Audio From Any Of These W&Gs

Wallace & Gromit's Musical Marvels
Wallace and Gromit's World of Invention - 1 season 6 episodes 30 minutes each
Wallace and Gromit's Cracking Contraptions - 1 season 10 episodes 1 to 3 minutes each

James P.Sullivan
06-03-2015, 08:38 PM
I never bothered watching those. Are they Julian Nott (apart from the main theme, obviously)?

TheSkeletonMan939
06-03-2015, 08:39 PM
I think CGCJ sent me something from them, I'd have to check.

I'll have to make a 'miscellaneous' album sometime with Cracking Contraptions, the demo on the Nott promo, and Shaun the Sheep.

And add Mr. Gold's Were-Rabbit info and the Shaun the Sheep film soundtrack.

James (The Disney Guy)
06-03-2015, 08:40 PM
Wallace & Gromit's Musical Marvels - From the BBC Proms 2012

CGCJ
06-03-2015, 08:46 PM
I think CGCJ sent me something from them, I'd have to check.

Nope, all I sent you was the 5.1 audio for the shorts and the music from two gallery extras that are just the credits music from A Matter of Loaf and Death looped a few times and what I believe is the first cue (The lead up to the title reveal) of The Wrong Trousers.

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Do We Have Anyway Of Extracting Audio From Any Of These W&Gs

Wallace and Gromit's World of Invention - 1 season 6 episodes 30 minutes each
Wallace and Gromit's Cracking Contraptions - 1 season 10 episodes 1 to 3 minutes each

I think I've seen these on DVD before, but I've not seen if they're 5.1 or not.

James (The Disney Guy)
06-03-2015, 08:48 PM
Okay. Well I think honestly it was just the theme played on loop :(

CGCJ
06-03-2015, 09:16 PM
Now that I've checked all of the audio from the online games, I present:

'Wallace and Gromit Bread Bakers' from A Matter of Loaf and Death and the Wallace and Gromit's World of Invention theme! (64kbps low quality mp3 but clean with no sound effects)

Wallace and Gromit music from the online games (https://mega.co.nz/#!gR4hnRTK!flJKZ-q1NK3e2XL6NKJ4yhdkwmWxNqcdBgZb0iiGNpo)

SpinMarty3
06-03-2015, 09:22 PM
Thanks for sharing these!

James (The Disney Guy)
06-03-2015, 09:25 PM
Your a legend cgcj

TheSkeletonMan939
06-03-2015, 09:43 PM
You guys are amazing. I'll have to update the first post with all this stuff soon!!

James (The Disney Guy)
06-03-2015, 09:47 PM
People will have to PM you for it. It cant be posted as its varse release

James (The Disney Guy)
06-03-2015, 09:48 PM
Gotcha.

TheSkeletonMan939
06-03-2015, 09:49 PM
I haven't even uploaded it, I'm just saying as a suggestion for Skelly.

I'd be quite interested in that! PM me a link and I'll add it to the list of things to add to the main post. :)

castas
06-03-2015, 10:04 PM
Thank you

starfighter1984
06-04-2015, 04:56 AM
I used to play the petrified zoo game with a friend, if that's one of the ones you're talking about?

No, it was a bundle pack of 4 games for download - Fright of the Bumblebees, The Last Resort, The Bogey Man and Muzzled.

Sunshower
06-04-2015, 01:36 PM
Should we bother with the music for the games as well, such as Project Zoo?

RogerSailer
06-04-2015, 07:46 PM
Thanks!

shortywallach
06-05-2015, 12:43 PM
Thanks, Skeleton!!

TheSkeletonMan939
06-05-2015, 02:11 PM
Should we bother with the music for the games as well, such as Project Zoo?

If anyone has them and is willing to rip the music, then by all means please do so.

I personally am not too interested in seeking out and ripping these games, but if anyone else does it, or sends me the audio files, I can add it to the main post.

TheSkeletonMan939
06-05-2015, 03:54 PM
I added a poll to the main post. Go vote!

James P.Sullivan
06-05-2015, 09:57 PM
Love the poll. Wrong Trousers ftw!! :D

Btw, how does one go about making a poll? I've looked but can't see an option...

James (The Disney Guy)
06-05-2015, 10:01 PM
If You Started the Thread Go To Page One. Thread Tools. Add Poll

scoreman79
06-07-2015, 11:31 PM
Thanks for this- A Close Shave and The Wrong Trousers sound excellent!

James P.Sullivan
06-08-2015, 06:11 AM
Thanks for this- A Close Shave and The Wrong Trousers sound excellent!

A Close Shave is just the few tracks off Julian Nott's promo, so they weren't extracted off the film.

mrcbrl
06-08-2015, 08:05 PM
Thank you so much!

TheSkeletonMan939
06-18-2015, 05:02 PM
First post has been updated with instructions on how to get Were-Rabbit.

CGCJ
06-18-2015, 06:21 PM
May I have a FLAC link for Curse of the Were-Rabbit, please?

kane_nr2
06-18-2015, 07:26 PM
Hello
Could you please send me the link for The Curse of the Were-Rabbit in MP3?

Thank you in advance,
kane

mwb
06-18-2015, 09:22 PM
A FLAC link for Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit would be very appreciated ! Thanks !!

James P.Sullivan
06-19-2015, 12:32 PM
Links sent.

kane_nr2
06-19-2015, 02:33 PM
Links received. Thank you once again, James P.Sullivan.

Best regards,
kane

Nouct
06-20-2015, 08:46 AM
Could you please send a link?

Thanks in advance.

Soundman2
06-20-2015, 12:50 PM
Could I have the FLAC for Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit?
Thank you !!!

gayben
06-20-2015, 09:23 PM
Getting a link to the bunnies would make my day :3

James P.Sullivan
06-20-2015, 10:45 PM
I'll send links out tomorrow. I am absolutely shattered right now. Had a very long, busy day.

mrcbrl
06-21-2015, 08:51 AM
Hello, could you please send The Curse of the Were-Rabbit in Flac?
Many thanks to all involved in this thread!

James P.Sullivan
06-21-2015, 11:40 PM
Links sent. I'm off to bed very soon...

mrcbrl
06-22-2015, 02:35 PM
Many thanks!

pernclub
06-25-2015, 03:10 PM
Amazing work on the extractions. One note on the speed issue - the Region B Bluray of these films is a 50i (or PAL speedup) mastering, which is unusual for a Blu but in keeping with how these films have always been presented in the UK on TV. I think Loaf And Death may have been originated as 50i as it was entirely a TV commission, but the first three were made on 24fps 35mm. As such, a speed fix may be required to bring the Grand Day Out and Wrong Trousers rips (which once again are amazing work) back to correct speed. I'm assuming it's a standard speed alteration used, not a time compression or a pitch shift. Worth looking into... the difference between the ripped and released Train Chase cue is a big clue that my hunch may be correct.

Basically, if a 104.167% slowdown of Train Chase rip makes it match the promo CD version, this is correct and the rips may need reprocessing to make them recording-session-accurate.

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Checked again and it's even more complicated than that, annoyingly. The Bluray *is* sped up but it's been badly "pitch-corrected", so it's actually too low. It's about (but not exactly, frustratingly) a semitone lower than it should be, if the Nott CD is an accurate gauge, which I'm assuming it is. To double check the accuracy of the CD we'd need to check the Close Shave tracks against the Bluray to see if the same thing happens there.

Once again, this is in no way a slur on the amazing work, just a fist-shake at 2|entertain and/or Aardman.

pernclub
06-25-2015, 03:52 PM
The audio has been ripped from the region A Blu-ray release. Aka the american BD release.

Ahh... that means it's been converted from the 50i master for US compatibility (those restorations were done in the UK, and the assets will have been locked down into 50i before being converted to 60i). Going to try and play the Region B, the rip and the promo of Train Chase against each other for more clues.

There's definitely something potentially fixable going on though with the conversion speed, worth investigating.

pernclub
06-25-2015, 04:32 PM
Nope - Not all US Bluray players/TVs support the 50i mode which is a standard in all players/TVs in PAL regions. US releases of UK shows produced in 50i (eg Doctor Who) are standards-converted for their Region A releases by either being frame-blended to 60i or most commonly slowed down to 24fps. The PAL/NTSC mess continues unabated.

The UK version of the W&G Bluray (which the US one will be made from) is 50i, to accommodate the made-in-50i Matter Of Loaf And Death, with speedup conversions of the first three films from 24fps to 25fps. The US version will be made from this, so probably slowed back down to 24fps, meaning that the first three films should theoretically be at the correct speed and Loaf And Death slowed down. However, if any pitch correction had been used at any stage of the restoration/standards conversion, this would mean there would be audio pitch errors despite the US version running at the correct speed.

There is also the possibility that there's a mastering/tape speed error on the Nott promo CD, or that the cue was altered for the film, or that it's a different take. But there's definitely something odd on a technical level about the source which we could possibly crack and fix to perfect these already amazing rips.

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Right, speaking to someone involved in the release to confirm something and I've cracked it!

pernclub
06-25-2015, 04:52 PM
Who exactly and what have you confirmed?

A friend at Resources, who put together the original Bluray.

Right, I know everything now. My hunch was correct and there is a speed issue, but much better we can very easily fix it. The following things are true, some of which surprised me. It's simpler than I'd feared.

- Wrong Trousers and Close Shave were both made natively at 25fps/PAL, not 24fps. This is apparently because they were specifically made for television with BBC money (I assumed they were made 24fps beforehand, but apparently not). A Grand Day Out was also completed and post-produced for/in PAL, so is the same. Matter Of Loaf And Death was always 50i/PAL. This means all of TV W&G was made at the same native frame rate.

- This means the frame rate and running speed is correct on all four of the films on the Region B version of the Bluray.

- The brief theatrical screenings of the originals were slowed down to 24fps specially for cinema presentation, but this was a derivation of their native speed.

- The American Bluray of the films is slowed down to 24fps from 25fps. This means via a quirk of fate it matches the slowed-down cinema versions (which they only did for Oscars qualification anyway!) but is nonetheless running too slow.

- By speeding up the score rips to exactly 96% (not time or pitch, a simple resample) it reverts them perfectly to their correct speed. This also makes the Train Chase cue from the CD now exactly match the equivalent section of the film.

Solved! It's easy enough for anyone to do as well with the files already here. Obviously if someone higher up the chain wishes to set it in stone then it's no less quick or simple a job. :)

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 05:04 PM
Glad someone's figured this all out! Thanks for the help! I'm sure Skelly can see to it when he gets back from holiday if he wants to.

pernclub
06-25-2015, 05:52 PM
Here's my go at a speed-corrected Grand Day Out rip:
- Sped up to 96% to match native 25fps
- Resampled to 44.1hz
- Boosted by 6db (no clipping)

Sendspace link (https://www.sendspace.com/file/fu1yhi)

(Note: the 44hz conversion was so I could burn a CD and also an attempt to tame the odd, dithering haze artefact on the original source. It's really easy to do yourself if you want a rawer file, this is just my personal preference. Will happily delete this if out of line, just an attempt to speed the process up a bit in light of the discovery about the US Bluray. TheSkeletonMan939 still wins all, I have merely done the incredibly easy bit at the end!) :)

CGCJ
06-25-2015, 06:02 PM
By speeding up the score rips to exactly 96% (not time or pitch, a simple resample) it reverts them perfectly to their correct speed. This also makes the Train Chase cue from the CD now exactly match the equivalent section of the film.

Solved! It's easy enough for anyone to do as well with the files already here. Obviously if someone higher up the chain wishes to set it in stone then it's no less quick or simple a job. :)

So, just speed up the rips by 4% and they're back to their correct pitch?

pernclub
06-25-2015, 06:09 PM
Yep, well more accurately speed them up to 96% of their original length, but yeah. Depressingly easy after all the brainpower I gave it! :D

CGCJ
06-25-2015, 06:36 PM
Here's my go at a speed-corrected Grand Day Out rip:

Would you be able to do this for the updated rip, which is cut up to 20 tracks, please?

pernclub
06-25-2015, 07:02 PM
Fixed Wrong Trousers with bonus added fan labour:

As before:
- Sped up to 96% to match native 25fps
- Resampled to 44.1hz
- Boosted by 5db (no clipping)

...except, I thought 'now it matches, wouldn't it be good to use the promo Train Chase as that's one of the only bits on the rip where SFX get in the way?' So I've done a new hybrid edit of the rip and the promo. Slightly more difficult than expected but I'm extremely pleased with the end result which I think is seamless. Very few effects are left in this, and only one I'd say doesn't get disguised by the music. Work done:
- Promo version matched and reinserted
- Transitions between sources smoothed
- Bad/sharp edit in middle of promo track fixed, matched to timing of film version but with a transition smoother than either
- Sound effect removed from final chord

Here's my new fixed hybrid edit of Train Chase on its own, for the curious or those doing their own speed-correction (https://www.sendspace.com/file/4yuka9)
And here's the entire speed-corrected Wrong Trousers, with both original and my fixed versions of that track (https://www.sendspace.com/file/wrw3h7)

P.S. I've noticed the opening post doesn't include the Close Shave version of the W&G theme in the folder (erroneously labelled 'Wallace & Gromit Theme - Demo' on Nott's promo - the "demo" in this case presumably meaning it's from his own 'demo' or showreel tape rather than literally being a demonstration version, because that's definitely a real Close Shave cue). Meaning we've actually got six tracks from ACS instead of five. :)

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Would you be able to do this for the updated rip, which is cut up to 20 tracks, please?

The upda... oh dear I'd missed that. Is it the same rip, just differently presented? To replicate the difference it would probably be quicker to chop my fixed one up in the same way. I've got audio editor blindness at the moment, though am happy for someone else to carry on from here.

CGCJ
06-25-2015, 07:16 PM
The upda... oh dear I'd missed that. Is it the same rip, just differently presented? To replicate the difference it would probably be quicker to chop my fixed one up in the same way. I've got audio editor blindness at the moment, though am happy for someone else to carry on from here.

It is the same rip just cut up to be as heard in the actual animation, it can be found in the first post.

pernclub
06-25-2015, 07:42 PM
It is the same rip just cut up to be as heard in the actual animation, it can be found in the first post.

I might leave that to someone else then. I'm pretty pleased with what I've managed to add to proceedings but I already feel a bit bad for piggybacking on someone else's work.

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Oh, one more thing, here's the now pretty rare Shaun The Sheep theme tune CD single from 2007. Six versions, 192kbps MP3. If I can find the original disc around I can do a FLAC with the CDROM extras if it's required. But that's overestimating how organised my CD collection is.

Vic Reeves - Life's A Treat (Shaun The Sheep) (https://www.sendspace.com/file/dtzv4y)

CGCJ
06-25-2015, 08:15 PM
[/COLOR]Oh, one more thing, here's the now pretty rare Shaun The Sheep theme tune CD single from 2007. Six versions, 192kbps MP3. If I can find the original disc around I can do a FLAC with the CDROM extras if it's required. But that's overestimating how organised my CD collection is.

Vic Reeves - Life's A Treat (Shaun The Sheep) (https://www.sendspace.com/file/dtzv4y)

Has there not been an official release of the actual theme as heard in the series, not those remixes...?

pernclub
06-25-2015, 08:56 PM
Has there not been an official release of the actual theme as heard in the series, not those remixes...?

The first track on the single is Mark Thomas's official release of the TV theme, albeit extended to be a full song. But that's the only official version, yeah. To get the 30 sec TV version you'd probably be best just ripping a DVD.


I'm getting confused with all this updates! Are they really to make the collection much better?

Well all I've done really is get the originals and speed-correct them, boost them a bit and fix one track. Though they're technically very similar to the originals, there's a very big difference between them in real terms.


And talking about Shaun the Sheep, pernclub, the CD's about to release, very soon, if it's not out already, in the UK. If you have it or plan to get it, would you mind sharing a FLAC copy of it? I think it's already out (ever since June 1th) in FLAC digitally.

I have it, but I'm making an executive decision not to share the movie soundtrack myself, sorry. It's a current, very niche, release that needs support. Nothing personal. I can't stop someone else doing obviously but I don't think it's fair to directly cut into sales of new release, small-scale CDs as it hurts soundtrack fans most of all in the end. Massive big Hollywood things or very old things it doesn't matter so much but the audience for this soundtrack on CD is tiny and I wouldn't feel right harming it. I worry about taking Silva Screen for granted because there's nothing else after they've gone.

James P.Sullivan
06-25-2015, 11:02 PM
Dude, your Train Chase edit is FANTASTIC. It does actually sound a lot better at the original speed, and the edits are seamless! I love how you've corrected the abrupt edit from the promo track as well. Great work. I will be downloading the whole album now. Thanks a lot! :)

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If you could do the same to A Grand Day Out (the 20tr edit), that would be great. As long as you're sure that's how that one would have been originally. I really don't think Skelly will mind if you do this, because he already did all the hard work ripping the scores. You're just adding the icing on the top. ;)

pernclub
06-25-2015, 11:12 PM
Grand Day Out was definitely PAL by the time it was scored - the theme music being in F like the other films is the biggest clue. The link to the 12-track version of fixed GDO is on the previous page but I'll have to see if I get chance to re-chop it up.

mantzi
06-25-2015, 11:24 PM
thanks

James P.Sullivan
06-26-2015, 08:20 AM
Amazing work on the extractions. One note on the speed issue - the Region B Bluray of these films is a 50i (or PAL speedup) mastering, which is unusual for a Blu but in keeping with how these films have always been presented in the UK on TV. I think Loaf And Death may have been originated as 50i as it was entirely a TV commission, but the first three were made on 24fps 35mm. As such, a speed fix may be required to bring the Grand Day Out and Wrong Trousers rips (which once again are amazing work) back to correct speed. I'm assuming it's a standard speed alteration used, not a time compression or a pitch shift. Worth looking into... the difference between the ripped and released Train Chase cue is a big clue that my hunch may be correct.

Basically, if a 104.167% slowdown of Train Chase rip makes it match the promo CD version, this is correct and the rips may need reprocessing to make them recording-session-accurate.

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Checked again and it's even more complicated than that, annoyingly. The Bluray *is* sped up but it's been badly "pitch-corrected", so it's actually too low. It's about (but not exactly, frustratingly) a semitone lower than it should be, if the Nott CD is an accurate gauge, which I'm assuming it is. To double check the accuracy of the CD we'd need to check the Close Shave tracks against the Bluray to see if the same thing happens there.

Once again, this is in no way a slur on the amazing work, just a fist-shake at 2|entertain and/or Aardman.

But there is a pitch difference between the rip and the promo, not just a speed difference. Also, you say a "104.167% slowdown" - don't you mean speed up??

pernclub
06-26-2015, 02:56 PM
I mean speed difference as in resampling akin to an analogue speed difference, not just a timestretch, so includes the pitch as well. When I speeded the Train Chase rip to 96%, it matched the one on the promo so closely it was phasing with itself. Timestretching and pitchshifting are lossier processes, resampling is an extremely precise, simple, high quality operation. Think of it like speeding up and slowing down a tape.

The other percentage I quoted earlier is to do the opposite thing - to turn PAL speedup back into 24fps, from when I thought it might be the opposite problem. So it's 104.1666666 recurring percent to undo it, basically. A number worth noting down for correcting rips of PAL DVDs of feature films.

James P.Sullivan
06-30-2015, 03:40 PM
I mean speed difference as in resampling akin to an analogue speed difference, not just a timestretch, so includes the pitch as well. When I speeded the Train Chase rip to 96%, it matched the one on the promo so closely it was phasing with itself. Timestretching and pitchshifting are lossier processes, resampling is an extremely precise, simple, high quality operation. Think of it like speeding up and slowing down a tape.

The other percentage I quoted earlier is to do the opposite thing - to turn PAL speedup back into 24fps, from when I thought it might be the opposite problem. So it's 104.1666666 recurring percent to undo it, basically. A number worth noting down for correcting rips of PAL DVDs of feature films.

Thanks for the explanations and your hard work! A bit technical, isn't it?! :p

Have you had a chance to chop up A Grand Day Out yet?

TheSkeletonMan939
07-04-2015, 11:20 AM
Well, thanks for the info, pernclub! This makes a lot of sense, since Sulley and I noticed that the promo CD has "Train Chase" at a different tempo and pitch than the film version. And that Shaun the Sheep stuff s great, thank you!

If you can "correct" A Grand Day Out, then go for it! I guess I can have an "Americanized" version (my version) and an "original" version for the three shorts sourced from the Blu-ray release.

Lockdown
07-04-2015, 11:26 AM
Welcome back, TheSkeletonMan!

James (The Disney Guy)
07-04-2015, 11:49 AM
Yes Welcome Back. This Truly Is A "Cracking" Day!
I Was Begining to Worry If You Had Been Hidden Away In Someone's Closet!

CGCJ
07-04-2015, 11:55 AM
the three shorts sourced from the Blu-ray release.

So, was A Matter of Loaf and Death not on the Blu-ray and sourced from the DVD audio I sent?

TheSkeletonMan939
07-04-2015, 11:59 AM
So, was A Matter of Loaf and Death not on the Blu-ray and sourced from the DVD audio I sent?

Loaf and Death was on the Blu-ray, but remember, A Close Shave was all sourced from Lockdown's promo CD, so I assume that's all at the correct tempo and pitch.

James P.Sullivan
07-04-2015, 12:20 PM
...AND he's back. Welcome back, Skelly! Good to have you around again. Hope you had a relaxing time away. .)

I'm currently away, but I'll be home on Tuesday evening.

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Loaf and Death was on the Blu-ray, but remember, A Close Shave was all sourced from Lockdown's promo CD, so I assume that's all at the correct tempo and pitch.

I believe that is indeed the case.

pernclub
07-08-2015, 05:32 PM
So, to catchup on what I managed to add:

A Grand Day Out fixed (12-track version) (https://www.sendspace.com/file/fu1yhi)
The Wrong Trousers fixed (https://www.sendspace.com/file/wrw3h7)
Shaun The Sheep CD single (MP3) (https://www.sendspace.com/file/dtzv4y)

Basically, I've just not been around enough (and won't much soon either) to be able to re-chop up Grand Day Out and most importantly mirror these new respeeded versions on MEGA, so if someone else could take over the mantle of doing that, that would be great.

Also, I can properly confirm that the file entitled "43 - Demo - Wallace & Gromit Theme Tune", not in the Close Shave zip file, is definitely the Ending/Credits cue from the end of A Close Shave. This brings the total amount of clean music we have from it to over 10 minutes, including most or all of the action music but sadly none of the love themes for Wendoline.

CGCJ
07-08-2015, 07:40 PM
For anyone who wants Jared Emerson-Johnson's music from the TellTale Grand Adventures games (I'm not sure who honestly would), some of it is on his website:
01 Fright of the Bumblebees (http://www.jaredemersonjohnson.com/the-vault/2015/2/26/wallace-gromits-grand-adventures-fright-of-the-bumblebees)
02 The Last Resort (http://www.jaredemersonjohnson.com/the-vault/2015/2/26/wallace-gromits-grand-adventures-the-last-resort)
03 Muzzled! (http://www.jaredemersonjohnson.com/the-vault/2015/3/9/wallace-gromits-grand-adventures-muzzled)
04 The Bogey Man (http://www.jaredemersonjohnson.com/the-vault/2015/3/11/wallace-gromits-grand-adventures-the-bogey-man)

James P.Sullivan
07-08-2015, 11:37 PM
Also, I can properly confirm that the file entitled "43 - Demo - Wallace & Gromit Theme Tune", not in the Close Shave zip file, is definitely the Ending/Credits cue from the end of A Close Shave. This brings the total amount of clean music we have from it to over 10 minutes, including most or all of the action music but sadly none of the love themes for Wendoline.

Yep, it's very unfortunate. And we don't have the best cue when Gromit is framed for the rustling and then kidnapped.

But thanks for you work, pernclub! Very much appreciated. And I completely understand about not having enough time! Maybe Skelly can re-chop Grand Day Out? Or someone else with enough time and skill.

TheSkeletonMan939
07-08-2015, 11:40 PM
Maybe Skelly can re-chop Grand Day Out?

I can give it a shot.

There's a lot of stuff I need to add to the first post! :D

TheSkeletonMan939
07-09-2015, 03:19 PM
pernclub, just to be certain - are you modifying just the speed for your corrected versions, or are you altering the pitch as well?

I'm trying to determine if I can just use eac3to to fix it all.

James P.Sullivan
07-09-2015, 06:13 PM
pernclub, just to be certain - are you modifying just the speed for your corrected versions, or are you altering the pitch as well?

I'm trying to determine if I can just use eac3to to fix it all.

As far as I know, it's pitch as well. That's what changing 'speed' means, as opposed to just 'tempo' or 'pitch'.

Remember the rip vs the official train chase? Definitely a pitch difference of about a semi-tone.

TheSkeletonMan939
07-09-2015, 06:44 PM
As far as I know, it's pitch as well. That's what changing 'speed' means, as opposed to just 'tempo' or 'pitch'.

.... Oohhhhhhh.

That makes sense.

So hypothetically, I could just "correct" everything to the way it's all supposed to be by converting the audio from NTSC to PAL?

James P.Sullivan
07-09-2015, 06:50 PM
.... Oohhhhhhh.

That makes sense.

So hypothetically, I could just "correct" everything to the way it's all supposed to be by converting the audio from NTSC to PAL?

I guess so...?

TheSkeletonMan939
07-09-2015, 06:57 PM
'Kay. I'll compare what eac3to does to pernclub's corrections and see how similar they sound... hopefully exactly the same.

BTW, for those interested, here's (https://mega.co.nz/#!aJdCCbhK!YRW7JKeECgQU52kfTQAzX80NN9KauruTerXLKvh KrFs) an example of what I'm doing for the Shaun the Sheep compilation.

CGCJ
07-09-2015, 07:00 PM
BTW, for those interested, here's (https://mega.co.nz/#!aJdCCbhK!YRW7JKeECgQU52kfTQAzX80NN9KauruTerXLKvh KrFs) an example of what I'm doing for the Shaun the Sheep compilation.

Are these edits based on anything or are they just how you feel they might go together?

TheSkeletonMan939
07-09-2015, 07:06 PM
It's all based on how they might go together, though in the show I remember that incidental music only lasted a few seconds long. So I'm really just shoehorning in the connections.

It's not much fun to have a soundtrack full of 5-second audio cues, so I figured I might try to combine them into tracks mildly interesting to listen to. Once I post the soundtrack in full I'm hoping you guys will let me know if I succeeded in that.

TheSkeletonMan939
07-09-2015, 09:21 PM
Okay, so I think eac3to converts everything correctly. That'll help me for Loaf and Death and that one extra cue not in the 12-track version of Grand Day Out.

What I'm going to do is keep the original links I put up but label them as the "Americanized" versions, with the PAL versions as the "original" versions.

Stuff to add to the first post:

-"Original" and "Americanized" versions
- Shaun the Sheep compilation (including pernclub's promo CD)
- Updated Close Shave w/ that sixth track

CGCJ
07-09-2015, 09:58 PM
What about the clean Wallace and Gromit Bread Bakers cue from A Matter of Loaf and Death and the Wallace and Gromit's World of Invention Theme (https://mega.co.nz/#!gR4hnRTK!flJKZ-q1NK3e2XL6NKJ4yhdkwmWxNqcdBgZb0iiGNpo)?

TheSkeletonMan939
07-09-2015, 10:03 PM
Oh yeah, that too!

TheSkeletonMan939
07-09-2015, 11:30 PM
Now here's something interesting I found... the Shaun the Sheep series got Blu-ray release... with 5.1 DTS-HD MA audio!

I found a torrent, but if anyone has it I'd appreciate it if you contacted me! :D:D

CGCJ
07-09-2015, 11:45 PM
Now here's something interesting I found... the Shaun the Sheep series got Blu-ray release... with 5.1 DTS-HD MA audio!

I found a torrent, but if anyone has it I'd appreciate it if you contacted me! :D:D

YES! Let's hope you can get the music completely clean from it. Was all of it released on Blu-ray? (I also found a torrent (http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4121279), which is saying that it has the 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, but it seems to be a rip of all the files from the Blu-ray, for which I wouldn't know what to do to extract the audio)

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-09-2015, 11:53 PM
German blurays.
The DTSHDMA stream is listed as German in the BDinfo section.
This shouldn't matter much, I don't think.
I watched the movie and there was no speaking roles in it. Just noises.
GER shouldn't make a difference.

The only other countries to release on bluray is China and Japan.
But mostly German blurays reach public torrent trackers like ruTracker.

Those aren't "rips" of anything.
It's the complete bluray in "folder structure" (or "BDMV").
You would need something like MakeMKV to remux the files to MKV then use eac3to on them to demux/transcode the audio.
Or if you know what you're doing, you can use MKVtoolnix to remux the playlist file (.mpls).
Don't remux the direct .m2ts, they don't support chapters.

TheSkeletonMan939
07-10-2015, 12:26 AM
(I think you're confused, Sparktank. We're talking about the Shaun the Sheep TV show, not the film. So the playlist files shouldn't matter.)

The language shouldn't matter at all either, since there's literally no dialogue in any episode of this show.

Right now I'm downloading a single .m2ts file to see what the audio mix is like.

I'll give you guys an update when I've looked at it! :D

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-10-2015, 12:53 AM
I was referring to the TV series.
Shaun the Sheep (2005 - ) (http://www.blu-ray.com/Shaun-the-Sheep/160642/#Releases)

But I followed the link that leads to RuTracker about the bluray there for one of the seasons.
It's a complete bluray folder.

But looking at it again, the episodes are incredibly short, so chapters don't matter.
Unless you want to use the listed 00602.MPLS which combines all the episodes for single playback on the first disc.

TheSkeletonMan939
07-10-2015, 12:57 AM
I was referring to the TV series.
Shaun the Sheep (2005 - ) (http://www.blu-ray.com/Shaun-the-Sheep/160642/#Releases)

Whoop, my mistake!



Unless you want to use the listed 00602.MPLS which combines all the episodes for single playback on the first disc.

That's not important; I don't care for Blu-ray structure, just the audio, so the .m2ts files are all I need (right?).

tehƧP@ƦKly�ANK� -Ⅲ�
07-10-2015, 01:11 AM
right?

Right.

What will the ETA be on this? I loved the movie so much I want to watch the series.
And listen to them.
I should catch up on W&G, too while I'm at it.

TheSkeletonMan939
07-10-2015, 01:16 AM
I'll look at the audio and let you all know how the mix is sometime tomorrow.

I can't imagine there being much rear activity, so I'm optimistic about the music being isolated back there! :D

TheSkeletonMan939
07-10-2015, 02:16 PM
I looked at the audio for the episode "Foxy Laddie", and... the rear channels have the music almost entirely clean (https://mega.co.nz/#!rVcDRajL!9bUAuC4rYynvUq5t1aM81Zs8-nQzqv4xZOPpE2HCQWo)! :D:D:D

I think I'll have to make a new thread just for Shaun the Sheep.

I don't want to download all 50 GB of the BRrip myself, so if anyone is interested in helping out, let me know and we can work something out.

Also: here's (https://mega.co.nz/#!3Ql23SrS!z5NUuJI7QhgzP3z9xWuqriffVSmbLgftVYimvSk TNhc) all the work I did with CGCJ's Shaun music files, for those interested.

TheSkeletonMan939
07-14-2015, 02:08 PM
I've finally begun updating the main post; the extended A Close Shave compilation is now available, as well as the original version of A Grand Day Out (the 20-track version) and a new "Americanized" version of The Wrong Trousers which includes pernclub's new mix of "Train Chase".

I still need to:

- Upload pernclub's corrected Wrong Trousers
- Speed-correct A Matter of Loaf and Death + add CGCJ's clean version of track 2
- Speed-uncorrect A Close Shave for American listeners
- Continue working on the Shaun the Sheep compilation (thanks CGCJ!)

frafak
07-16-2015, 01:37 PM
Awesome thread ! And very interested in Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit !
Thanks in advance !

CGCJ
07-19-2015, 06:52 PM
Wallace and Gromit's World of Invention Theme (Full version) (https://mega.co.nz/#!LB0TDKrK!JQO2L8SaNw1irYfyKeg1P3JAMzWVDYzMm-p8gNlwfjI) Higher quality full length taken from the composers showreel.

kane_nr2
08-04-2015, 10:50 PM
Thank you for the new uploads, CGCJ, pernclub and TheSkeletonMan939.
Excellent work.

Sunshower
09-07-2015, 08:09 AM
Just a quick question, Skelly, for a close shave, what if you used the original dvd mix (the 3 cracking adventures dvd) instead of the blu-ray version? Would you get different results or will you just get the same problem you had when you tried to rip it?

TheSkeletonMan939
09-07-2015, 12:33 PM
Just a quick question, Skelly, for a close shave, what if you used the original dvd mix (the 3 cracking adventures dvd) instead of the blu-ray version? Would you get different results or will you just get the same problem you had when you tried to rip it?

I tried that, CGCJ gave me the DVD mix. It's the same as the Blu-ray's, unfortunately. :(

Sunshower
09-07-2015, 12:38 PM
Shame, but still like you said, what we have now is better than nothing.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-07-2015, 12:46 PM
I wonder if the UK Blu-ray would have the same problem?

Probably. It's not a really "problem", it's just a horrible, horrible sound mix.

CGCJ
09-07-2015, 01:12 PM
I tried that, CGCJ gave me the DVD mix. It's the same as the Blu-ray's, unfortunately. :(

Actually, the "3 Cracking Adventures" DVD is different to the one I have (It has a different cover and obviously misses A Matter of Loaf and Death), I think it's the same just an earlier release missing A Matter of Loath and Death, I may be wrong though as I don't actually own it. (It may therefore have a different mix, but I think it may just have the original non-5.1 mix)

TheSkeletonMan939
09-07-2015, 01:14 PM
Ah, I see.

In any case I looked it up, the "Cracking Adventures" set only has stereo mixes (http://www.dvd.net.au/review.cgi?review_id=607).

trui15
09-20-2015, 09:42 PM
Thank you so much for this TheSkeletonMan939 !

Count Nipul
09-21-2015, 01:42 AM
Thanks a lot for uploading these! I watched the original three short films countless times as a kid, so naturally, the music carries a lot of nostalgia for me. Stuff like that piece at the beginning of A Grand Day Out, when Wallace and Gromit are looking through the travel guides, just instantly takes me straight back to being four years old, so to finally hear this stuff on its own, with no voices/SFX drowning it out, is a delight. Thanks again for uploading.

Also, amazed by how few votes A Close Shave has. I honestly think that is the best of the bunch, with The Wrong Trousers admittedly a very close second. Worst (IMO) is undoubtedly A Matter of Loaf and Death; the charm just...wasn't really there.

laohu
10-16-2015, 09:57 PM
Hi Skeleton, a link to The Curse of the Were-Rabbit if it`s available,, thanks!!!

tangotreats
10-16-2015, 10:26 PM
Loaf and Death significantly improves on repeat viewings... but you're right, it's not at the same level as Trousers or Shave. The score suffers similarly; it seems that Nott was damaged more significantly by his experience on Were Rabbit. In the early to mid nineties, he was perhaps the greatest melodist working on British TV.

bellepopero
10-17-2015, 02:10 PM
Could I have the link for the FLAC version of The Curse of the Were-Rabbit, please? Thanks in advance

Zorglorfian
12-08-2015, 12:01 AM
Thank you so much for these! These guys were my childhood and have helped me get into animation! Any chance i can get a link to the were-rabbit movie soundtrack rip? Thank you!

MrMac
12-12-2015, 10:34 PM
Would love the links to the Were-Rabbit soundtrack SkeletonMan! And thanks for all of these shares. Sulley, thanks for the artwork, love them.

James P.Sullivan
12-13-2015, 03:37 AM
Would love the links to the Were-Rabbit soundtrack SkeletonMan! And thanks for all of these shares. Sulley, thanks for the artwork, love them.

Glad you appreciate them all! :)

MrMac
12-13-2015, 07:55 AM
Links received thanks SkeletonMan

Ivanova
12-29-2015, 12:00 AM
Great project! Best of luck in continually perfecting it. Many thanks.

svaX
03-05-2016, 09:53 PM
Any luck finding a better source to rip A Close Shave?
I've been wanting that score for ages.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-06-2016, 12:17 AM
No. :sad:

The 5.1 mix is atrocious... something a 14-year old could make with an upmixer. Not well done at all. I think our only chance for A Close Shave is if these scores are officially released someday.

CGCJ
06-15-2016, 05:30 PM
Clean tracks from A Matter of Loaf and Death (https://mega.nz/#!TMEiBYwL!M5lGhWWeaWpDxFivzhHf2mN0hXaeaQNS-btuIGeZLHs).
Taken from some online flash games. The tracks have been identified and where possible have the same titles as Skelly's rip. (The .flac tracks are edits which were exported as such to preserve what little quality there was)

Wallace and Gromit, Bread Bakers (Film)
Dough to Door Delivery (Film)
Saving Piella (Excerpt)
Romance (Excerpt)
Return Home
Electronic Surveillance for Dogs
Shed Sting
Cake I
Cake II
Meddling Mutt
My Baker's Dozen
Bomb
Trouble at the Mill (Excerpt)

Bonus
Wallace and Gromit, Bread Bakers I (Extended)
Wallace and Gromit, Bread Bakers II
Dough to Door Delivery (Original)

James (The Disney Guy)
06-15-2016, 05:32 PM
Cool! Nice! Thanks CGCJ!

TheSkeletonMan939
06-15-2016, 05:40 PM
Oh man, that reminds me! I still have to post that Shaun the Sheep music! :erm:

James (The Disney Guy)
06-15-2016, 05:42 PM
Oh man, that reminds me! I still have to post that Shaun the Sheep music! :erm:

YOU FINISHED IT!!!!

YOU REALISE HOW LONG I HAVE WANTED TO USE THAT COVER!!!

AHH!!! SUPER EXCITED!

Boppa25
06-21-2016, 06:02 AM
Thanks

Detective Sax
10-22-2016, 10:54 PM
Does anyone have the links as the original links of all 4 have been taken down, both original and americanised?

TheSkeletonMan939
10-22-2016, 11:45 PM
Does anyone have the links as the original links of all 4 have been taken down, both original and americanised?

Watch this space.

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New link for the first three films (original):

http://shink.in/L1aY4

I no longer have the files for the Americanized versions. I also do not have anything for A Matter of Loaf and Death because it sounds horrible. Not the music, my rip.
I have used a link shortener because I believe the captcha will prevent bots from automatically flagging the link.

PonyoBellanote
10-23-2016, 09:39 AM
It's true that the Wallace & Gromit shorts were comissioned by the BBC or had some sort of help, and obviously they premiered in TV in 25fps, but I do believe the 24fps version is acceptable, too, because the shorts were done in 24fps film, and then in 25fps tape for broadcast. That's what I think. The following shorts were also showcased in loads of festivals and theatres, so.. that qualifies them for 24fps too.

svaX
10-26-2016, 10:45 PM
I'm still holding onto hope that we could get ANY kind of decent rip of "A Close Shave".

I'm obsessed with that score.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-26-2016, 11:15 PM
the shorts were done in 24fps film, and then in 25fps tape for broadcast.

They were not.


- Wrong Trousers and Close Shave were both made natively at 25fps/PAL, not 24fps. This is apparently because they were specifically made for television with BBC money (I assumed they were made 24fps beforehand, but apparently not). A Grand Day Out was also completed and post-produced for/in PAL, so is the same. Matter Of Loaf And Death was always 50i/PAL. This means all of TV W&G was made at the same native frame rate.

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I'm still holding onto hope that we could get ANY kind of decent rip of "A Close Shave".

I'm obsessed with that score.

Yeah... I'd have done it if I could have. :sad: It just wouldn't have been enjoyable in the least.
I can't believe these scores haven't been released. There must be a lot of red tape.

PonyoBellanote
10-26-2016, 11:21 PM
Yeah, he's assuming as much as I am. All I know is that they were done in film, too and I assume then turned to videotape for TV premiere, but I am more sure that the second and third films were done for film too as they were in Dolby Stereo and Digital and premiered in cinema festivals.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-26-2016, 11:30 PM
Yeah, he's assuming as much as I am.

No he isn't. pernclub said he knew a guy who assembled the Blu-ray set.
They dealt with the source material, which was at PAL specifications.

In any case I don't have the Americanized edits anymore... but anyone who wants to convert them to that speed, feel free to do so.

PonyoBellanote
10-26-2016, 11:33 PM
But it is very obvious the source for the shorts was film. Unless that film was in 25fps..

TheSkeletonMan939
10-26-2016, 11:46 PM
I would assume Nott was writing to a 25fps copy of the film since that's what audiences would be seeing.

Lyzar
01-05-2017, 09:23 AM
I was looking for those musics for a very, very long time.

Thank you !

Enigma84
01-05-2017, 05:08 PM
Can I please get the link for the Curse of the Were-Rabbit? Thanks heaps in advance!

The Valeyard
07-13-2017, 08:09 PM
FYI (not sure it was mentioned above) this 20th Century Fox 1999 release of the first three adventures is the only time the original soundtracks were released on DVD. It went out of print when Warner Bros released their versions in the 2000s (without "Happy Birthday" and other tunes).



GIGAN05
10-13-2017, 05:34 PM
Any chance of a re-up for The Wrong Trousers? Both MEGA links are dead.

Thank you for the work gone into this project. Was listening to The Grand Day out rip and I wanted to cry.

Stiof�n1987
11-16-2017, 10:45 PM
Could I have the FLAC for Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit?
Thank you !!!

MKtheInstrumentalist
12-09-2018, 05:07 AM
Thought I'd resurrect this thread with some of my own attempts, mostly from A Grand Day Out - did them years ago but they still hold up. The OP's links are dead here so I dunno if mine are better or worse lol, but I hope it helps someone out there.

First time sharing anything of my own on here, so lemme know if I screw it up, haha!

https://mega.nz/#F!1yASHI6I!mX8LysFAeQfhZHvDx-5OBA

James P.Sullivan
12-09-2018, 09:57 AM
Thought I'd resurrect this thread with some of my own attempts, mostly from A Grand Day Out - did them years ago but they still hold up. The OP's links are dead here so I dunno if mine are better or worse lol, but I hope it helps someone out there.

First time sharing anything of my own on here, so lemme know if I screw it up, haha!

https://mega.nz/#F!1yASHI6I!mX8LysFAeQfhZHvDx-5OBA

I'll give these a listen, but honestly I doubt anyone could do better than Skelly.

Having given these a listen, I'm genuinely surprised at the quality - what was your source?

MKtheInstrumentalist
12-09-2018, 12:37 PM
I'll give these a listen, but honestly I doubt anyone could do better than Skelly.

Having given these a listen, I'm genuinely surprised at the quality - what was your source?

Probably same as yours - 5.1 mixes, either from one of my own DVDrips or a bluRay torrent from years ago, I honestly forget. I've been training myself in audio restoration and have developed what my music tech' tutor once described as a "forensic ear" - since discovering iZotope RX, I've been using it in tandem with Audacity to make instrumentals of random things for years. Surprisingly only really found this forum this year, might submit more of the odds-n-sods I've done over the years - currently my big project is the Charlie Brown specials - but I'm glad I exceeded your expectations! ;-D

Something I'm p. sure was overlooked in the OP's version of Building The Rocket/Preparing For The Moon, even without hearing it, was that even though on the surface it doesn't sound like there's any SFX on it on the side channels, there's actually a fair few droplet-drips from the basement ambience that snuck in - they're hard to make out at first but once you pick up on them you can't unhear it. I made sure to remove-and-smooth as many as I could find in my own edit, as well as fixing how the track seems to fade-in slightly at the beginning (its so tantalising knowing there's actually a slightly extended version somewhere out there)...

TheSkeletonMan939
12-09-2018, 02:08 PM
You're right, I didn't catch those drip-drops when I first made these. I wouldn't have known how to remove them then either. Thanks for posting your version. :)

James P.Sullivan
12-09-2018, 02:19 PM
Probably same as yours - 5.1 mixes, either from one of my own DVDrips or a bluRay torrent from years ago, I honestly forget. I've been training myself in audio restoration and have developed what my music tech' tutor once described as a "forensic ear" - since discovering iZotope RX, I've been using it in tandem with Audacity to make instrumentals of random things for years. Surprisingly only really found this forum this year, might submit more of the odds-n-sods I've done over the years - currently my big project is the Charlie Brown specials - but I'm glad I exceeded your expectations! ;-D

Something I'm p. sure was overlooked in the OP's version of Building The Rocket/Preparing For The Moon, even without hearing it, was that even though on the surface it doesn't sound like there's any SFX on it on the side channels, there's actually a fair few droplet-drips from the basement ambience that snuck in - they're hard to make out at first but once you pick up on them you can't unhear it. I made sure to remove-and-smooth as many as I could find in my own edit, as well as fixing how the track seems to fade-in slightly at the beginning (its so tantalising knowing there's actually a slightly extended version somewhere out there)...

Very interesting, and most impressive. You're right, I hadn't picked up on those drips but I can't think how. Your take on "Escape From The Moon" is also impressive, as that was the most tricky cue to get sounding ok with all the blasting sfx of the rocket.

Is there any chance you could at least take a look at A Close Shave? That was the one we had to give up on due to the audio mixing.

MKtheInstrumentalist
12-09-2018, 02:26 PM
Yep, Escape had probably the most work put into it, spent a few hours trying to filter out that noise and isolate the notes without damaging the EQ too much - had to give up on that last massive blast near the end though, but I managed to get it significantly clearer at any rate.

Haha, yeah, I remember looking at the waveform for Close Shave and thinking "that's a fat NOPE" - if I had some foreign dubs however, I might be able to salvage some bits of it - I got a really nifty method I can use that I invented myself, if at least 2 are available.

James P.Sullivan
12-09-2018, 05:32 PM
Yep, Escape had probably the most work put into it, spent a few hours trying to filter out that noise and isolate the notes without damaging the EQ too much - had to give up on that last massive blast near the end though, but I managed to get it significantly clearer at any rate.

Well, congrats. It's great.


Haha, yeah, I remember looking at the waveform for Close Shave and thinking "that's a fat NOPE" - if I had some foreign dubs however, I might be able to salvage some bits of it - I got a really nifty method I can use that I invented myself, if at least 2 are available.

I'm afraid I can't provide foreign dubs - no idea where to look or how to get hold of any. If I did, I would! Do you know anyone who could? Sounds like it's worth a shot. The music is great, particularly when Gromit is kidnapped and framed. Instant childhood memories whenever I hear it. That scene was always so emotional.

MKtheInstrumentalist
12-09-2018, 11:36 PM
If I save up a bit I'll probably be able to find some international DVDs on ebay, I know they were massive in Japan so that's probably as good a place to start as any.

I found my old rip of it, and looking at A Close Shave, it's mix is actually very well done, if a little odd - what appears to've happened is that they had the raw SFX elements and decided to mix all of them individually, an impressive feat to say the least - except they went a bit overboard, and then forgot to subtract the centre amplitude, leaving the front L-R completely muddied with sounds. Interesting to note that everything in the rear L-R is mono, including the music, apart from a few bits of ambient SFX. I might see if the original stereo track would be useful, I can rip my DVD today.

And thanks for the compliments, it really means a lot!

MKtheInstrumentalist
12-10-2018, 09:06 AM
Also, something I noticed - A Grand Day Out's score, at least in the 5.1 remaster, is actually upmixed from a mono source! They just have a fake pseudo-stereo filtering on the EQ to make it sound like certain things are panned, but when you mix it down it actually makes the frequency-range uniform - it's really obvious if you look at it on a stereo spectrogram. This basically means that so long as you match the EQ properly, if for instance the left channel has SFX on it whilst the right is clear, you can just ditch the left and fix up the balance. I can think of a few cues in there that would benefit from this, such as the slightly sparse bassoon thing from before the rocket launch, or the cue just after the actual liftoff. Will go through and fix them up once I finish with Is This Goodbye, Charlie Brown. :-)

I'll check my "3 Cracking Adventures" DVD to see if AGD's audio is actually mono on there - and while I'm at it I'll have a look through the BTS docos on The Complete Collection, it's always worth looking through those sorts of things for bits a film's score without the usual SFX.

I'll probably be doing it all from scratch myself now lol but if anyone wants uncompressed .ac3's of any of the films' audio, gimmie a shout and I'll put them up, haha!

Bubbleboy857
04-14-2019, 07:55 PM
Thank you so much, TheSkeletonMan939 for taking the time to Re-up! The soundtracks are absolutely Brilliant! So appreciated!

User4574
08-07-2019, 03:27 AM
What a fantastic collection of tracks, well done to everyone who worked on getting such clean music for us to enjoy. Its such a rich and emotive score.