These British stop-motion animated short films from the early 90's are among my all-time favourite short films (actually, films in general). All three films have the rare 100% Fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes and are praised around the world for their brilliant stories, stunning animation, and cracking British humour. They are an invaluable part of my childhood memories and I cannot recommend them enough. If you haven't seen them yet, go and look them up. You will not regret it.

The music for all three shorts (and subsequent films) was composed by British film composer Julian Nott and is one of the essential parts of each film. Unfortunately, as is often the case with short films, the soundtracks never got an official release. However, from what I've heard, there is a promo score for each film floating around somewhere here. A while ago, Scoreman shared a 7-track promo with six tracks from A Close Shave and one track from The Wrong Trousers. They are on YouTube here (https://www.youtube.com/user/afewtunes/videos). When asked, Scoreman said he had the actual promos for each film, but he never got round to sharing them. Since then, he has stopped sharing anything here for various reasons.

Because of that, I'm starting this thread to track them down once and for all.

Does anyone here have them?

Please, please, please let me know.

I watched a Wallace and Grommit short pretty much every day of my childhood. I must have watched A Close Shave 100 times before I realized that Preston (that's the giant mean dog's name, right?) was always a robot and not just turned into a robot. :P

Yes, anything anyone can provide regarding these scores would be appreciated!

I watched a Wallace and Grommit short pretty much every day of my childhood. I must have watched A Close Shave 100 times before I realized that Preston (that's the giant mean dog's name, right?) was always a robot and not just turned into a robot. :P

Yes, anything anyone can provide regarding these scores would be appreciated!

"He's malfunctioning!"

"Mal-what?"

"Daddy created him for good, but he's turned evil!"

"He's malfunctioning!"

"Mal-what?"

"Daddy created him for good, but he's turned evil!"

Hey, I was a kid! :p

Honestly though, I never paid attention to dialogue at that age...

Really? The dialogue is exquisite. They were some of the most frequently quoted movie lines in our house.

Did this series ever get a 5.1 mix anywhere?

If so, maybe - just maybe - I could isolate the music.

I'll have to look...

Did this series ever get a 5.1 mix anywhere?

If so, maybe - just maybe - I could isolate the music.

I'll have to look...

If the promos don't turn up, please do look into it!! But damn it, Scoreman did apparently have them (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f72/wallace-gromit-close-shave-promo-40513/#post812944). Surely he can't have been the only person here who had them?!

Let's hope scoreman maybe sees this and decides to share them all with you, even privately only to you if possible. All as long as you get it. Though Skeletonman should get it too.

The promos in Youtube really surprised me, quite majestic for what it is.

Unfortunately, there's no chance of that happening. I've been in PM contact with him recently, and at first he said he'd look out for them for me, but then when I asked him again to see if he'd found them, he said that he is no longer sharing anything with anyone here. He didn't even say if he'd found them yet or not. I asked him again for a private share by email, but I've had no response. That's why I started this thread.

It is indeed fantastic quality music. Absolutely top-notch stuff.

Scoreman's got a lot of good contacts... which is why he doesn't share anything anymore. Better to put those sources to use by only disseminating scores through the trading circles.

I now want to see all of Wallace and Gromit, even the movie.

I'll put them to the list..

The last two ("Were Rabbit" and "Loaf and Death") are rubbish compared to the original three. Sadly, the humour really went downhill.

I've just finished watching A Grand Day Out. Such memories. You notice something more every time. :)

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Before watching, I emailed Julian Nott using the direct address on his website. We'll have to wait and see if I get a response...

I too would love to have the scores for these, as they're definitely my favourite films and have such wonderful scores to them.

Does anyone here own the Blu-ray or DVDs for these shorts? I only have the VHS tapes...

(Yeah, VHS tapes. I still have a player.)

Does anyone here own the Blu-ray or DVDs for these shorts? I only have the VHS tapes...

(Yeah, VHS tapes. I still have a player.)

I own the DVDs and they're in 5.1, but I've not checked it out as to the ability to get the music listenable without any intrusive dialogue.

Does anyone here own the Blu-ray or DVDs for these shorts? I only have the VHS tapes...

(Yeah, VHS tapes. I still have a player.)

IT'S NOT JUST ME!!!! :D

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I own the DVDs and they're in 5.1, but I've not checked it out as to the ability to get the music listenable without any intrusive dialogue.

Would you be able to rip the audio and send it to me? If you don't know how, I can PM you some easy directions.

I have them on DVD now too, but I still have the VHS box set. And this is what we watched them on (yes, this is still the one and only TV in the house):

Are you dirt poor on something, or you guys don't really watch TV? Considering how now every channel broadcasts in 16:9 it must be a hell of a pain to watch stuff there.

I think the best thing to do rips of is the american blu-ray which has LCPM 5.1. It'll be better than a lossy 5.1 that it's a bit old!

I don't watch that much TV regularly... very little of it appeals to me. And I don't have time to see the shows I might be interested in at the times they actually air.

Plus, if you're going to stare at a box, what would you rather be looking at: a cozy little tube like Sulley's, or this monstrosity ()?

I can't find a torrent or anything with the LPCM audio (it might be private trackers, though), so I figured I'd try my luck and see if I could get it or at least an AC3 copy through this thread... hopefully CGCJ can help out with that! :)

Though if anyone has the Blu-ray, please contact me!

I was saying it to Sulley, and honestly your example was a bit bad, there are lots of good modern television that look better than that.. some are even less than 200 or 100. I don't watch much TV either because my mother has it most of the time or I'm busy with the laptop.


I'm not referring to the quality of the TV, I'm talking about the immense size.

But anyway... back on topic...

Are you dirt poor on something, or you guys don't really watch TV? Considering how now every channel broadcasts in 16:9 it must be a hell of a pain to watch stuff there.

I think the best thing to do rips of is the american blu-ray which has LCPM 5.1. It'll be better than a lossy 5.1 that it's a bit old!

In all honesty, yes, we are dirt poor. My mum can't work, due to the government taking percentages off my sisters' uni loans, and what my dad earns is never enough to pay off all our bills and mortgage. We are nearly constantly in the red, only going back to black at the beginning of each month when my dad gets paid. So we can't afford to just 'get a new TV' even if it's 'only' �100, when our old one still works well. That's also the reason I still can't drive - the insurance here is just too expensive.

Sorry, but you did ask. :p

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I don't watch that much TV regularly... very little of it appeals to me. And I don't have time to see the shows I might be interested in at the times they actually air.

Plus, if you're going to stare at a box, what would you rather be looking at: a cozy little tube like Sulley's, or this monstrosity ()?

I literally don't watch TV at all. None of us do, unless there's something very interesting (a history documentary or something) that we will then record and watch later. But that doesn't happen often.

I must confess, that monstrosity does look tempting! But only if I had a spare room to put it in. What'd I'd ideally like is a large flatscreen that folds down from the ceiling whenever you want to use it, and folds back up whenever you don't. That would be awesome.

I've just had a personal reply from Julian! Although nothing exciting, it is interesting. Take a look:

So close, yet so far... at least he had the courtesy to reply to you. That's rare.

So close, yet so far... at least he had the courtesy to reply to you. That's rare.

He seems quite friendly, so I've replied asking more questions about copyright/release issues. I'll let you know what he says if he replies again. I think he might.

Would you be able to rip the audio and send it to me? If you don't know how, I can PM you some easy directions.

I'm uploading the 5.1 audio to mega now. I eagerly await what you'll be able to get out of it!

Edit: Do you want The Curse of the Were-Rabbit also, or, as that is an actual feature-length film, it has its own soundtrack release? (I've not searched up about it.)

The fact that he replied, and in that way, is quite sweet. He really says he does not even know where his music is. It is weird. Weird that he does not have personal copies of his scores. Maybe if he did he'd have worked an official soundtrack or even given you a copy of his masters (I doubt that part, but who knows, he seems rather likeable). Which remembers me, back in 2013, I messaged Brahm Wenger himself (he did the scores of several Buddies movies and most of Robert Vince's sport-talking animals movies) I sent him a message because I wanted his score of Snow Buddies so far. This is a copy of what I sent him and obviously never got a single reply:



Yeah, from what I've heard, Julian is a nice bloke. There's always hoping I can inspire him to push for a release of some sort. We shall have to wait and see.

That's a shame you never got a reply. There are a couple of reasons. A) the email address wasn't a direct, personal one, and therefore probably went to his agent/secretary. B) he was too busy to reply. C) he's just a jerk.

I think perhaps your email was a bit too... rambling? It's a bit long. I always try to keep my emails short and sweet when writing to official people. That way, it's more likely they will feel they can spare the time to reply. My email to Julian, for example, was only about 4 lines long. The other factor to consider is how 'big' the composer is. I have a feeling Mr Wagner is more well-known than Mr Nott, and is therefore more likely to have a secretary. Julian, on the other hand, provided a direct email address on his website for personal contact.

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I'm uploading the 5.1 audio to mega now. I eagerly await what you'll be able to get out of it!


Thanks for uploading! Let's hope Skelly can work some magic with it. ;)

Having only checked The Wrong Trousers train chase piece of music from the 5.1 audio in audacity, it sounds beautiful with very little effects (A few swoops and one "Oh" from Wallace, the rest can be added clean from the promo track) and with the 'promo' track added it sounds even better! (Despite the questionable quality of the YouTube video I had to download it from)

Oh, good, that's one of the sequences I worried most about!

If you could rip Were-Rabbit too that'd be nice, if you can manage it.

You rock!

Oh, good, that's one of the sequences I worried most about!

If you could rip Were-Rabbit too that'd be nice, if you can manage it.

You rock!

Yeah, luckily the effects are mostly contained in the dialogue track. Hopefully it is like that for all of them. (I'm taking the audio from "The Complete Collection" DVD which includes all, including A Matter of Loaf and Deaf)

Sure, I'll get you the audio from The Curse of the Were-Rabbit too.

Having only checked The Wrong Trousers train chase piece of music from the 5.1 audio in audacity, it sounds beautiful with very little effects (A few swoops and one "Oh" from Wallace, the rest can be added clean from the promo track) and with the 'promo' track added it sounds even better! (Despite the questionable quality of the YouTube video I had to download it from)

Oh good! That's definitely one of the highlights of the films and the music! The promo track isn't complete - only starting when Wallace steps onto the train. The actual cue starts when Feathers jumps onto the banister and Gromit follows him.

Fun fact: I'm currently working on a string quartet arrangement of the full Train Chase cue. :)

Oh good! That's definitely one of the highlights of the films and the music! The promo track isn't complete - only starting when Wallace steps onto the train. The actual cue starts when Feathers jumps onto the banister and Gromit follows him.

Yeah, that's what I was referring to, with the unreleased first 35 seconds of the cue being mostly clean, except for the aforementioned sounds. (I can upload my quick edit of the cue if you want)

Yeah, that's what I was referring to, with the unreleased first 35 seconds of the cue being mostly clean, except for the aforementioned sounds. (I can upload my quick edit of the cue if you want)

Hell, why not?! Let's give it a listen. Skelly can still try to remove what little FX there is just in case anyway. Right, Skelly?

Hell, why not?! Let's give it a listen. Skelly can still try to remove what little FX there is just in case anyway. Right, Skelly?

I can try, but no promises! It all depends on how everything is mixed...

(Despite the questionable quality of the YouTube video I had to download it from)

I have the 7-track promo, with the train chase track. Not sure exactly what the quality is, but I've been happy with it myself. Would you like me to upload it here?

I have the 7-track promo, with the train chase track. Not sure exactly what the quality is, but I've been happy with it myself. Would you like me to upload it here?

Yes please, as after a quick search, all I could find was mentions on forums and the YouTube uploads.

Yes please, as after a quick search, all I could find was mentions on forums and the YouTube uploads.

Ok, sure. I've just checked - it's 192k.

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Right, here you go:

W&GPromo (https://mega.co.nz/#!E54ElKTA!B6-BrG5g9JIn_pIv5DCcnsHABvKU4vMqp19nc5BvP40)

Right, here you go:

W&GPromo (https://mega.co.nz/#!E54ElKTA!B6-BrG5g9JIn_pIv5DCcnsHABvKU4vMqp19nc5BvP40)

Thank you, very much!

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Here's my quick edit of The Wrong Trousers train chase cue (https://mega.co.nz/#!BZwm2QQI!Vwpkz8SKTyqHWq4BnB89Aw-8yr68f13Ou2dAIepH3NE) (Also includes a full 5.1 rip of the cue)

Thank you, very much!

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Here's my quick edit of The Wrong Trousers train chase cue (https://mega.co.nz/#!BZwm2QQI!Vwpkz8SKTyqHWq4BnB89Aw-8yr68f13Ou2dAIepH3NE) (Also includes a full 5.1 rip of the cue)

Your edit is good, but the pitch of the rip needs to be raised by half a semitone to match the promo.

Working on A Grand Day Out... so far, so good... I haven't had to do any drastic editing yet. The rear channels are exactly like the front channels, except less SFX... really excited!! :D

Working on A Grand Day Out... so far, so good... I haven't had to do any drastic editing yet. The rear channels are exactly like the front channels, except less SFX... really excited!! :D

Once you're done, will you make a new thread or post them here?

I'll make a new thread, for all the Wallace and Gromit stuff I'm able to do.

I'll make a new thread, for all the Wallace and Gromit stuff I'm able to do.

That's so exciting!! I can't wait to have a listen! Let me know before you make the thread. I've already done several versions of artwork for A Grand Day Out, and I'll be working on matching covers for the other two as well. :)

Sneak preview... (https://mega.co.nz/#!LN9wEL6A!Cf_6vn8Yk6J9nPXcCbIupLMYZFP1UER8hxK4UKT TrD4)

Sneak preview... (https://mega.co.nz/#!LN9wEL6A!Cf_6vn8Yk6J9nPXcCbIupLMYZFP1UER8hxK4UKT TrD4)

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Can I get a loseless 192hz? :D

Don't do HDLossless's job for him!

The AC3 files are 448kbps, but I figure the sound difference is so small human hearing wouldn't detect the difference between a FLAC export or a VBR MP3.

Besides, the material sounds very dated anyway at some points... FLAC would only be worth it if I were provided with the LPCM on the Blu-ray. And even then there might not be too much of a difference since, like I said, the material is a little dated...

Glad you guys like it!!

Please say that it'll at-least be 320kbps in the final post, instead of 237kbps, like the preview. (Whatever way it ends up being posted, I'll still be most grateful for your work on it.)

Skelly, any quality you come up with will be more than perfect for me. It's sounding better than I ever imagined. Thank you so much!

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And to go with your sneak preview, here's a sneak peak at one of my covers:

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320kbps is CBR - constant bitrate - which means that the file is forced to be 320 kbps at all points.

The file I provided is not 237 kbps - that's just the average bitrate. In truth the bitrate fluctuates every second to fit the need of the music. If there's a point of silence in the track, then it'll be about 2kbps at that very point. If the music is very bombastic, then it's very possible that the music for that point could be 320kbps.

Here's the spectograms of a track at CBR and VBR-0:




They look exactly the same. Probably sound exactly the same too, unless you have unparalleled hearing and pick pick up on the slight artifacts left out of the VBR transcode.

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Ooh... nice cover, Sulley.

I was being sarcastic too. :D

Probably sound exactly the same too, unless you have unparalleled hearing and pick pick up on the slight artifacts left out of the VBR transcode...

...like HDLossless.

For being sarcastic, you went on to explain yourself a lot.. :P

...like DAK.

Ooh... nice cover, Sulley.

Glad you like it. I've got a lot more. ;)

JUST FOUND A RIP OF THE AMERICAN BLU-RAY WITH THE LPCM 5.1!!

It's on a russian torrent site, needs you to register (I already am, ages ago) and it's a BDCustom of the original one (because they added the russian audios) but so far the LPCM 5.1 seems to be intact.

I wanna download it!

What's stopping you?!

I'm not sure I understand how this makes it better though - how's it better than the format Skelly's working with?

What's stopping you?!

I'm not sure I understand how this makes it better though - how's it better than the format Skelly's working with?

Presumably it'll just have the same audio mix, but at a higher bitrate/quality...?

At the moment, that my PC seems to lag a bit when it downloads huge torrents (though it's just 34 GB) and that it's gonna take a while, but since I'm gonna go to bed in a hour or so I'm going to start it by then and thankfully will be done by tomorrow (let's hope so)

Well, laying the lossless part aside, it should bring more quality and a lot of difference, comparing it with the dated lossy DVD. I'm sure it's gonna bring something more than "lossless" and has more quality and maybe even more spacity.

If your PC survives the download, it'd be interesting comparing the two. :)

You go for it!

I'm off to bed now... Night all! I will sleep well knowing my dream is in capable hands...

JUST FOUND A RIP OF THE AMERICAN BLU-RAY WITH THE LPCM 5.1!!

Oooo, that's great, Ponyo. :D

I expect that everything's mixed the same, just in higher quality.

If it ever finishes downloading, I'd appreciate it if you could extract the audio for me! Just PM me and I'll explain how...

In the meantime I'll keep chugging away at what I've started, just to see how everything else is mixed...

Oh, they're BDMV files? I thought they'd be MKV...

Anyway - are you using a PC or a Mac?

Oh, they're BDMV files? I thought they'd be MKV...

Anyway - are you using a PC or a Mac?

I think Ponyo uses a PC...

Ponyo - try downloading eac3to and extract the contents of the .zip folder.

- In the folder eac3to is downloaded to, hold 'SHIFT' and right click. Click the option that says something like "open command window here".
- in the command prompt window that opens, type:

eac3to [drag-and-drop a Wallace and Gromit video file here] -demux

I think that should work (by the way - don't include the brackets in the code). It should produce a WAV file and a video file of some kind. What it does it it takes the video file and takes it apart without converting anything. Therefore, no quality is lost in the process.

Let me know if it doesn't work and I'll figure something else out...

Morning Skelly! How's it going? :)

The Wrong Trousers is mixed a bit differently from A Grand Day Out, so that'll likely have more SFX... but most of the dialogue and SFX are centered. I haven't checked A Close Shave, though hopefully any gaps in that can be filled with the promo.

The Wrong Trousers is mixed a bit differently from A Grand Day Out, so that'll likely have more SFX... but most of the dialogue and SFX are centered. I haven't checked A Close Shave, though hopefully any gaps in that can be filled with the promo.

I figured as much after listening to the 5.1 Train Chase. Still, it would appear to be better than most feature length movies. How far have you got with A Grand Day Out?

About halfway. The synth instruments in particular sounds very distorted, which I guess is just a result of poor archival efforts. Still listenable, just noticeably low-quality.

So far I've only encountered one instance where I had to bounce around the front and rear channels, and that's when the rocket is taking off.

Yeah, most films funnel all the dialogue through all the channels. It's meaningless and detracts from the overall sound experience... I'm glad that most TV shows and smaller films eschew this silly practice.

I am literally insanely excited to listen to your work, particularly the take-off cue! Have you managed to remove most of the rocket FX?

It's not the case with all short films - I extracted the 5.1 channels of several Pixar shorts and they are a complete mess. FX splattered across all channels.

I am literally insanely excited to listen to your work, particularly the take-off cue! Have you managed to remove most of the rocket FX?

It's not the case with all short films - I extracted the 5.1 channels of several Pixar shorts and they are a complete mess. FX splattered across all channels.

I'll definitely finish it up by the end of the day.

When it comes to sound mixes, I think it depends on how much the director/showrunner is interested in the sound mix. If the director doesn't care that much, I guess then the sound mixer does a quick job of music isolated of the rear channels, dialogue and sfx only in the center, and mixing and matching in the front channels.

If the director is interested, then you're more likely to get a lot of rear activity.

So it makes sense that the Pixar shorts would have lots of effects all over the place. They tend to take advantage of technological improvements and would probably want to utilize the 5.1 audio to the fullest extent. Which isn't a bad thing, but it's painfully obvious when SFX and dialogue are distributed aimlessly through it all...

Guess that makes sense. I was particularly wanting the music from One Man Band by Michael Giacchino. But in the film the camera keeps moving around, so the FX and music are constantly moving around the channels too.

Thanks so much for doing this for me/us! Can't wait for this evening...

Is that so? Well, I'll compare the two audio mixes and see which is best to use for, say, the opening theme. Thanks for the info, Ponyo!

It's probably because the 2.0 mix is the original mix, whereas the 5.1 mix is more modern, and the mixers used the original sound elements in their highest quality for the new surround mix... which would explain why the 2.0 would sound more grainy.

Have you gotten a chance to see if my eac3to code works?

I did what you told me to, and all it did was play the file with Windows Media Player.

That probably means that the file automatically started playing once it was done demuxing... can you try searching your files for the WAV file? It's probably in the same folder as the BDMV file...

I... think I'll leave you guys to it. All over my head to a certain degree. :p

Nope, not there. It did nothing other than just playing the file.

Why can't I just use MakeMKV and extract the audio from the MKV?

Huh... weird...

Yeah, MakeMKV can work too. I just thought eac3to would be easier. Do you know how you're going to extract the audio? Through Audacity, right?

No, MKVExtract is fine. Thakn you so much for your efforts, Ponyo!

I wonder if the Blu-ray and DVD mixes are the same...

Cup of tea, anyone?

I have cheese and crackers with my tea actually.

(Go and watch the beginning of A Grand Day Out!)

Joke's on you because you should have remembered that Wallace gets up to make a 'nice cup of tea' in the first place. That's when he discovers the cheese is gone. :p

Childish disputes aside, how's the music coming along? What's the situation? I haven't really been following all the recent developments...

Childish disputes aside

Yeah, you guys need more to do. :p

Ponyo - PM me the links when you're finished extracting everything. MEGA would be awesome.

But I wasn't quoting a line of the shorts, but a fact that they like cheese and crackers. Hey, I used to like crackers a lot when I was a kid. I bought them from Gibraltar lol

Neither was I. But from what you said, you made it sound like it was either cheese and crackers OR a cup of tea, not both. ;)

eac3to [drag-and-drop file here] [filename.flac]

For "filename", type out the FULL FILEPATH for where you would want the FLAC file to go. Something like "C:\\Users\Ponyo\Desktop\Wallace.flac". See if that works...

Oh, good, thanks! Sorry for the trouble...

...but does this mean Skelly's going to have to start all over again? I don't think I can wait that long!!

Jk. Take as long as you need. ;)

Lovely! Thank you!

And since Sulley's being so patient... here's a reward (https://mega.co.nz/#!fF81XAjK!p0giklm5r3pvVVXBfLRibrC3k3RL-oH0PBQ0VVQbOqw). That's the takeoff cue you're interested in, right? Or is it the following track?

Lovely! Thank you!

And since Sulley's being so patient... here's a reward (https://mega.co.nz/#!fF81XAjK!p0giklm5r3pvVVXBfLRibrC3k3RL-oH0PBQ0VVQbOqw). That's the takeoff cue you're interested in, right? Or is it the following track?

*Gasp!*

Scrambles over the keyboard...

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And as a reward for all your hard work... ;)

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And since Sulley's being so patient... here's a reward (https://mega.co.nz/#!fF81XAjK!p0giklm5r3pvVVXBfLRibrC3k3RL-oH0PBQ0VVQbOqw). That's the takeoff cue you're interested in, right? Or is it the following track?

I was thinking of the actual takeoff cue, but hey, "We've Forgotten The Crackers!" is fantastic too! :p

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(Just to check - you're sure the back channels are the exact same as the front ones? You're not missing any instruments from the front channels?)

(Just to check - you're sure the back channels are the exact same as the front ones? You're not missing any instruments from the front channels?)

Yeah, I've checked for multiple cues. The rear is the same as the front. The front is louder, but the sound content is the same in terms of music.

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Oh man... Ponyo sent me the lossless audio... the Wallace and Gromit theme has never sounded so amazing. :D

This is gonna be awesome!!

I've already noticed that the Blu-ray audio is not as distorted as the DVD audio when it comes to those synth-y elements. Which means someone did a bad job making the DVDs or they remastered/went to the source for the Blu-ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8T8bStabq0

Pure and utter genius. Every time I watch it, I simply cannot believe how utterly brilliant it is.

I just have to say this: FANTASTIC work by everyone who is contributing to this project! :D I love the Wallace & Gromit music and can't wait for the finished result. The three samples sound very good, particularly the test edit of Train Chase, which generally sounds just amazing!... Oh, and needless to say, I'd love to hear more samples of your work in progress if that's possible! :D

Huh, turns out the rear channels aren't exactly like the front at some spots. There's some extra bass in the front channel in the sequence where Wallace is trying to find a good spot to picnic on the moon. So I'll pay attention to those subtle differences...

Huh, turns out the rear channels aren't exactly like the front at some spots. There's some extra bass in the front channel in the sequence where Wallace is trying to find a good spot to picnic on the moon. So I'll pay attention to those subtle differences...

Thank goodness you're a perfectionist. :p

I have the Wrong Trousers RL/RR audio ripped channels if anyone just wants to hear the music...

https://mega.co.nz/#!QRtWwZJY!NypG0vajFn9qZhe6R6xw0Dc5qPOkP5CK8A8QwGm C65I

I have the Wrong Trousers RL/RR audio ripped channels if anyone just wants to hear the music...

https://mega.co.nz/#!QRtWwZJY!NypG0vajFn9qZhe6R6xw0Dc5qPOkP5CK8A8QwGm C65I

What's the source?

HOLY CRAP.

The work you guys have put into this is nothing short of amazing! Please, keep going :D.

Because I started this thread, I kinda feel like I'm just sitting back watching my slaves work for me... mwahahaha! ;-)

What's the source?

Audio came from the bluray release - I can upload rest if folk want them to tidy up / split into tracks etc.

I wouldn't bother with anyone else trying to edit the audio, we already have TheSkeletonMan working on the music from all of the shorts plus Curse of the Were-Rabbit.

Yes, thanks for the offer, DarkDaniel, but I think Skelly's got everything under control at the moment. :)

Okay,

I'm nearly done with A Grand Day Out; expect it some time tomorrow in this thread. The cue for when they first takeoff is kind of damaged at the beginning, and it's less obvious in the DVD AC3 audio, so I need to spend some time seamlessly combining the AC3 and PCM.

I'll make a new thread in the downloads section when I've done all four adventures, and maybe Were-Rabbit too if that's mixed in a way that I can work with... my spider-sense tells me that The Wrong Trousers especially will be a pain in the butt to do based on what I've skimmed through, but we'll see how it all turns out!

Okay,

I'm nearly done with A Grand Day Out; expect it some time tomorrow in this thread. The cue for when they first takeoff is kind of damaged at the beginning, and it's less obvious in the DVD AC3 audio, so I need to spend some time seamlessly combining the AC3 and PCM.

I'll make a new thread in the downloads section when I've done all four adventures, and maybe Were-Rabbit too if that's mixed in a way that I can work with... my spider-sense tells me that The Wrong Trousers especially will be a pain in the butt to do based on what I've skimmed through, but we'll see how it all turns out!

Looking forward to it so much! Thanks again for all your hard work. :)

Aaaand we have A Grand Day Out (https://mega.co.nz/#!2c92wAyD!0YyECQn1dAWIP2JuWyUinjdVFYYERQTXsasyvIc DQt4).

Let me know what you all think!

Aaaand we have A Grand Day Out (https://mega.co.nz/#!2c92wAyD!0YyECQn1dAWIP2JuWyUinjdVFYYERQTXsasyvIc DQt4).

Let me know what you all think!

YES YES YES!!! I can't wait to listen to this!!!! :D :D :D

(Sorry, am I overreacting?)

(Sorry, am I overreacting?)

No, hearing the music on its own was pretty exciting for me too, especially since I'd listened to it so many times as a kid. Even though I never paid it much attention to it then, I essentially memorized it...

No, hearing the music on its own was pretty exciting for me too, especially since I'd listened to it so many times as a kid. Even though I never paid it much attention to it then, I essentially memorized it...

It sounds absolutely fantastic!!

Can I make some suggestions for track names / divisions?

Wow, it's SO good!

If it's not too much to ask, could you possibly split some of your tracks to make the following cue list?

1. A Grand Day Out - Main Title
2. Magazines
3. Cheese Holidays
4. The Moon
5. Building the Rocket
6. Job Well Done
7. Lighting the Fuse
8. Crackers!
9. Liftoff
10. The Surface (I think you forgot this one - it's a couple of seconds of strings as they walk out of the rocket.)
11. Picnic on the Moon
12. The Cooker
13. Clearing Up
14. Cooker’s Dream
15. Cooker Attack
16. Cooker’s Dream [Reprise]
17. Stowaway / The Fuse! / Blast Off
18. Sad Cooker
19. Homemade Skis
20. End Credits

That would be fantastic! Also, stand by for the full set of covers...

Why split it so much?

Because, to my ears, that was most likely how the cues were written. I think what Skelly's done is good in combining them so that there aren't loads of tiny cues, but I'd prefer to have it as I think it was originally done. If you go back through the film (like I just did), you'll see what I mean.

What Skelly's done is kind of what I'd expect of an official release - combining cues to make longer tracks. What I'm looking for is the equivalent 'sessions'. See what I mean?

Because, to my ears, that was most likely how the cues were written. I think what Skelly's done is good in combining them so that there aren't loads of tiny cues, but I'd prefer to have it as I think it was originally done. If you go back through the film (like I just did), you'll see what I mean.

What Skelly's done is kind of what I'd expect of an official release - combining cues to make longer tracks. What I'm looking for is the equivalent 'sessions'. See what I mean?

So, cues have been combined, meaning that TheSkeletonMan's edit is not how the music is presented in the short?

10. The Surface [/I](I think you forgot this one - it's a couple of seconds of strings as they walk out of the rocket.)


That doesn't sound familiar... I bet I left it out, yeah. Nice tracklist, I'll update it accordingly.


So, cues have been combined, meaning that TheSkeletonMan's edit is not how the music is presented in the short?

Not exactly. I took very short music cues and put them before or after longer ones, since some people might not appreciate having 4-second tracks... but Sulley's edit suggestion is a good idea.

That doesn't sound familiar... I bet I left it out, yeah. Nice tracklist, I'll update it accordingly.



Not exactly. I took very short music cues and put them before or after longer ones, since some people might not appreciate having 4-second tracks... but Sulley's edit suggestion is a good idea.

Thank you so much! :)

I'm listening to it again now whilst I clear up after lunch. :)

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If you could add some silence at the end of each track (just five seconds or so) that would be fab. :)

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Aaaand we have A Grand Day Out (https://mega.co.nz/#!2c92wAyD!0YyECQn1dAWIP2JuWyUinjdVFYYERQTXsasyvIc DQt4).

Let me know what you all think!

Just listening to this now and I must say, the quality of this is amazing, it sounds beautiful, especially after hearing those DVD sourced previews.

Those covers are great. Amazing work as usual, Sulley!

My favorite:

Those covers are great. Amazing work as usual, Sulley!

My favorite:


Thanks! :)

It's a great shot, that one, isn't it? The moon, the rocket, the picnic, and the cooker all in one!

amazing work TheSkeletonMan939 !

Thanks everyone so much for all the awesome work put into this! :) I adore Wallace & Gromit in general so this is more than wonderful to listen to!

Just finished listening to your rip of a grand day out, and its sound great :) excellent job! Can't wait for the wrong trousers, as that's my favorite one out of the three. And its nice to see that someone else on here, or the internet in general, is as interested in the W&G scores as much as I am.

TheSkeletonMan939, is there a chance you could upload the original 5.1 audio files? After listening to most of your rip, I wondered what the original audio sounded like. I don't own the Blu-Ray or DVD--just some old VHS tapes that my aunt and uncle gave me when I was a lot younger. I tried searching online for torrents, and I did find one. But the files were in mp4 format. Well, I'm familiar with eac3to and its surrounding programs, which only work on mkv files. So I found a converter for mp4 to mkv, and then when I go to extract the audio from the mkv, errors pop up saying I don't have Nero Audio Decoder 2, or something like that, and the extraction can't complete.

TL;DR: it would be really cool if you could upload the original audio files here or PM me about them.

I'm working on The Wrong Trousers, and I was surprised to find that Gromit's birthday card tune has changed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOw7AwG-2Gs)! Why??

I'm working on The Wrong Trousers, and I was surprised to find that Gromit's birthday card tune has changed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOw7AwG-2Gs)! Why??

OMGosh, why?? It was always happy birthday on our VHS!! That's just annoying, damn it. Ah well. Technically it's not part of the score, so you needn't include it.

Btw, how's the revised tracklist for A Grand Day Out coming along?

OMGosh, why?? It was always happy birthday on our VHS!! That's just annoying, damn it. Ah well. Technically it's not part of the score, so you needn't include it.


Yeah... but I was going to include the songs Feathers McGraw plays. They changed those too! Arrrgh!!

Unfortunately these alterations seem to be on both the DVDs and Blu-rays... :(


Btw, how's the revised tracklist for A Grand Day Out coming along?

I'm saving that for the big thread when I finish all the shorts.

Yeah... but I was going to include the songs Feathers McGraw plays. They changed those too! Arrrgh!!

Unfortunately these alterations seem to be on both the DVDs and Blu-rays... :(

No, seriously?! That's awful! Those songs are a part of the film!! You can't change them!!!!!!


I'm saving that for the big thread when I finish all the shorts.

Ah ok. I've been anxiously waiting with one finger on iTunes and another on my artwork...

The songs originally heard in The Wrong Trousers were changed because of copyrights, sadly. I believe the new songs are public domain.

(It would be kinda fun if you could add in the original songs as a bonus, if only from a good-quality VHS... better than nothing, I guess, even if the sound quality won't begin to approach the amazing quality of the Blu-ray rips.)

By the way, terrific work on A Grand Day Out -- haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but what I have heard sounds excellent! :) Looking forward to the revised version with more split-up tracks. :)

"Cracking Thread Lad"
I Had No Idea You Guys Where Looking For The Music. I Had Always Thought Curse of Were-Rabbit Had A Release....
And "Cracking" Artwork Sull

"Cracking Thread Lad"
I Had No Idea You Guys Where Looking For The Music. I Had Always Thought Curse of Were-Rabbit Had A Release....
And "Cracking" Artwork Sull

Curse of the Were-Rabbit does have a CD soundtrack release (http://www.amazon.com/Wallace-Gromit-The-Curse-Were-Rabbit/dp/B000B8I8UA). That's not part of this project (or is it)? It's the four shorts which generally don't have official soundtrack releases.

Curse of the Were-Rabbit does have a CD soundtrack release (http://www.amazon.com/Wallace-Gromit-The-Curse-Were-Rabbit/dp/B000B8I8UA). That's not part of this project (or is it)? It's the four shorts which generally don't have official soundtrack releases.

I May Of Misread With That One

"Cracking Thread Lad"
I Had No Idea You Guys Where Looking For The Music. I Had Always Thought Curse of Were-Rabbit Had A Release....
And "Cracking" Artwork Sull

Thanks, chuck! :)

Curse of the Were-Rabbit does have an OST, but the shorts don't.

Skelly's rips are coming along nicely, but I've been warned that A Close Shave is proving a lot more difficult than the first two. The Wrong Trousers, however, is an absolute treat. You can seriously look forward to that. ;)

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Curse of the Were-Rabbit does have a CD soundtrack release (http://www.amazon.com/Wallace-Gromit-The-Curse-Were-Rabbit/dp/B000B8I8UA). That's not part of this project (or is it)? It's the four shorts which generally don't have official soundtrack releases.

Skelly said he might attempt Curse of the Were-Rabbit, but only after he's done with the shorts.

And Thanks Skeyyy for A Grand Day Out Sounds Brill ;)

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Thanks, chuck! :)

Curse of the Were-Rabbit does have an OST, but the shorts don't.

Skelly's rips are coming along nicely, but I've been warned that A Close Shave is proving a lot more difficult than the first two. The Wrong Trousers, however, is an absolute treat. You can seriously look forward to that. ;)

I Will Have to Look For A Link To Were-Rabbit

Ta!

Skelly's rips are coming along nicely, but I've been warned that A Close Shave is proving a lot more difficult than the first two. The Wrong Trousers, however, is an absolute treat. You can seriously look forward to that. ;)

That's great to know! For A Close Shave, at-least we have that selection of tracks, and The Wrong Trousers has to be my favourite of the three original shorts, so I'm very much looking forward to it. Thanks for the update!

That's great to know! For A Close Shave, at-least we have that selection of tracks, and The Wrong Trousers has to be my favourite of the three original shorts, so I'm very much looking forward to it. Thanks for the update!

Exactly. So it's not too bad.

And me too, The Wrong Trousers has to be my favourite. I literally can't fault it for anything!

Perhaps it's time to head on over to the animated movie gifs thread... ;)

But I'm just about to hit the sack. Night all!

Laters Sull

Skelly's rips are coming along nicely, but I've been warned that A Close Shave is proving a lot more difficult than the first two.]


Yeah, head's up, guys: A Close Shave is not going to be impressive. I might not even be able to extract anything from it. At least we have the promo, though.

A Matter of Loaf and Death is all right though...

But The Wrong Trousers is almost SFX-less! Quite a treat! I hope to have the thread up sometime this week, so keep your eyes peeled!

Re The Wrong Trousers, any chance you could somehow get hold of the original source music from Feathers' radio? I'd love that.

From Wikipedia:


The pieces that were removed are "Happy Talk" from the musical South Pacific and "(How Much Is) That Doggie in the Window?", along with Wallace's humming of it the subsequent morning.

So maybe, if I can find them, I'll include the tracks as bonus material... :D

So maybe, if I can find them, I'll include the tracks as bonus material... :D

You could stick them in the chronological place before "Farewell, Gromit". Speaking of which, I was thinking perhaps you could change that cue title to "Farewell, Gromit/The Plan Begins" or something like that, as it continues after Gromit's left the house and Feathers gets the Electronics for Dogs book and the drill to modify the trousers.

Dang... finding an organ version of "Happy Talk" is sort of hard.

Dang... finding an organ version of "Happy Talk" is sort of hard.

Can you rip it from this?

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So, originally, the songs played on Feathers' radio are as follows:


"Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Old Oak Tree" (written by Irwin Levine) - played when Gromit is in bed and pulls the blanket over his head.

"Happy Talk" (written by Rodgers & Hammerstein) - played when Gromit is lying on the sofa.

"How Much is That Doggie in the Window?" (written by Bob Merrill) - played when Gromit is outside trying to sleep in his doghouse.

I found a 43 track promo of Julian Nott's music from a bunch of different shows. Interested? :)

I found a 43 track promo of Julian Nott's music from a bunch of different shows. Interested? :)

Anything from Wallce & Gromit???

Or is it the same source that the promo we already have is from?

From Wallace and Gromit - A Close Shave

Shawn In Machine
Chase
Factory
Cyberdog
W&G are Go

Wallace and Gromit - The Wrong Trousers

Train Chase

What's the bitrate?

That's the same, yeah. Ah well. Still, the names are slightly different. What's the bitrate?

Oh, and just to make sure, what's the track length of Train Chase?

Awesome, that's better than what we have now.

Can you upload it some time? :)

It might be an upconvert, theres a line cutting it at 16khz...

Normally if it's an upconvert, EVERYTHING would be cut off at 15kHz. There's sound going all the way up to 21.

I think this might be better quality...

Looking good! :)

Skelly, did you get the link to The Wrong Trousers I posted on the previous page? Hopefully you can rip the radio songs off that.

Smelly LOL..anyways, the other music on this promo is fucking awesome.

Smelly

HEY! :mad:


did you get the link to The Wrong Trousers I posted on the previous page? Hopefully you can rip the radio songs off that.

Yeah, I'll try. If anyone else has any info on the radio songs that'd be a big help!

I heard that they are on the first pressing of the DVD.

I heard that they are on the first pressing of the DVD.

They are - but I've not found an AC3 file for that first pressing. Just for the re-releases. :(

Smelly LOL..anyways, the other music on this promo is fucking awesome.

Damn you, autocorrect!!! I edited it as fast as possible. :p

I'd actually be really interested in hearing his other works. Can you upload whole promo?

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HEY! :mad:

I'm so sorry!! Totally unintentional, I can assure you!!

Train Chase is 1:21

Train Chase is 1:21

That's the same. Ah well. Wonder why they split it??

Hey guys.
Great to hear a good progression skelly. Really looking forward.
@lockdown i two would be interested as he composes some wonderful and calming music.

@sulley
Are you making artwork for the other shorts and the film?

Indeed I am. All will be revealed in good time. ;)

My prayers have been answered. Thank you.

Sulley, clean out your PM box!

The scene that I desperately want the music for in A Close Shave is the scene when Gromit is framed and then caught in the green truck trying to rescue Shawn.

I can't get over the quality of all the W&G scores, particularly the early ones.

The scene that I desperately want the music for in A Close Shave is the scene when Gromit is framed and then caught in the green truck trying to rescue Shawn.

Sadly, that'll be next to impossible to extract clean. Lots of hooves from the sheep.

Sorrryyyyyy.... I was hoping for that cue too. :(

Why hasn't anyone thought to give these scores a proper release yet?

Damn it.

Isn't that the question of the century?!

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I'm gonna try contacting Aardman. Long shot, but you don't know till you try.

Julian didn't get back to me after that initial contact I had, so I guess it's no use emailing him again.

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Just finished watching A Close Shave again...!!

Now that it's 1:26AM, I think it really is time for bed...

Right, email to Aardman sent. We'll have to wait and see if they're decent enough to reply...

Still no reply from Aardman.

In the meantime, I decided to bust out the old figurines...




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Could it be possible to hear some previews from The Wrong Trousers? :)

Could it be possible to hear some previews from The Wrong Trousers? :)

Just a little more patience. All will be revealed shortly...

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But just to tide you over, here (http://customscorecovers.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/blog-post_30.html) is a preview of my cover art. Just to get you even more excited. ;)

I think I had some of those figurines too... I could never figure out why Wallace was in such a strange position.

I think I had some of those figurines too... I could never figure out why Wallace was in such a strange position.

Haha me too! And none of them are to scale with each other.

Okay... you guys have waited long enough... (http://forums.ffshrine.org/f92/wallace-gromit-190189/#post2971625)

First cover for Loaf and Death done!

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If you can add this to the new thread, Skelly, that'd be great.

Also, you could add to the requests section the missing cues from A Close Shave. That's what I'm most wanting!!

Awesome, added!

I think I covered the Close Shave cues in my first request... right?

Awesome, added!

I think I covered the Close Shave cues in my first request... right?

Well, I guess technically, yes, you did. But we have all the material from all the shorts except Close Shave from DVD rips.

Just uploading six Loaf and Death covers now. I've changed the logo on that first one I just did to the white-rimmed one. It seems to work better.

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The last one is my cover looks good on my phone. Thanks

It's fantastic how much work went into getting these clean cues. I still desperately miss the cues of the "love themes" from A Close Shave between Wendolene and Wallace. Maybe one day they'll release it *holds fingers crossed*

It's fantastic how much work went into getting these clean cues. I still desperately miss the cues of the "love themes" from A Close Shave between Wendolene and Wallace. Maybe one day they'll release it *holds fingers crossed*

Fingers crossed here too!

FYI (not sure it was mentioned above) this 20th Century Fox 1999 release of the first three adventures is the only time the original soundtracks were released on DVD. It went out of print when Warner Bros released their versions in the 2000s (without "Happy Birthday" and other tunes).

The problem with DVD is the pitch