Piano
09-11-2011, 12:45 PM
Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 1 (Complete Demos) (2010) - Alexandre Desplat
Tracklist:
01-Oblivation (1m3v5a) (2:15)
02-Oblivation (1m3v5b) (2:10)
03-Voldemort (1m5v2) (5:11)
04-Harry's closet - Polyjuice (1m6v5) (4:33)
05-Sky battle (2m7v3pt3) (1:28)
06-Sky battle (2m7v6pt2) (2:20)
07-Taking off (2m7v4) (0:57)
08-Taking off (2m7v5) (0:58)
09-Landing at the Burrows (2m8v2) (4:25)
10-Landing at the Burrows (2m8v4) (3:56)
11-Harry tries to leave (2m11v2) (2:00)
12-Headlines - Kiss (2m12) (1:26)
13-Tent up - Scrimgeour arrives (2m14v2) (0:46)
14-The will (2m15) (3:25)
15-Wedding attack (2m19v2) (0:32)
16-Cafe oblivation (3m24v2) (1:31)
17-Grimmauld place (3m25v3) (1:13)
18-Sirius's room (3m27) (1:23)
19-Kreacher & the locket (3m29v4) (2:23)
20-Deatheaters searching (3m30-31-32v1) (1:46)
21-Kreacher, Doby and Mundungus (3m34v8) (3:51)
22-Into the ministry of magic (3m38v5) (3:33)
23-The detonators (4m41v7) (2:36)
24-The courtroom (4m43v2) (2:30)
25-Stealing locket (4m44v5) (1:39)
26-To the fireplaces (4m45v8a) (1:04)
27-To the fireplaces (4m45v8b) (1:04)
28-Scabior smells Hermione (4m48) (1:49)
29-Exodus (5m49v3) (3:24)
30-Exodus (5m49a) (3:17)
31-Exodus (5m49av2) (3:08)
32-Part 1 (5m50v2) (1:41)
33-Traveling montage (5m51v3) (2:19)
34-On the rocks (5m53) (2:06)
35-The graveyard (5m55) (3:13)
36-Bathilda bagshot (6m56v2) (2:39)
37-Hermione's parents - Patronus (6m59v3) (4:05)
38-The sword of Griffondor (6m60v3) (1:25)
39-Destroying the locket (6m62) (2:31)
40-Ron's speech (6m63v2) (1:30)
41-Xenophilius lovegood (7m65) (0:58)
42-The deathly hallows (7m68) (2:23)
43-The deathly hallows (7m68v2) (3:21)
44-Leaving lovegood's (7m69v2) (0:32)
45-Scabior spots Harry (7m72) (1:22)
46-Harry to Malfoy's manor (7m73v1) (0:51)
47-Harry to Malfoy's manor (7m73v8) (0:48)
48-Draco - Harry - Sword - Bellatrix (8m74) (1:42)
49-Doby appears (8m76) (0:51)
50-Hymn 2 (1:29)
Total time: 1:48:19
Don't ask for a better bitrate, the quality from these demos is originally very poor.
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moviemusicsi
09-11-2011, 01:02 PM
thanks piano!!
benuit
09-11-2011, 01:12 PM
Thanks ...
ispalko070480
09-11-2011, 01:36 PM
Many thanks!
DAKoftheOTA
09-11-2011, 01:43 PM
Thank you very much =)
MasterZPrime
09-11-2011, 02:33 PM
hey, I won't complain. your uploading to this site has managed to keep my ears entertained lol thanks!
bobyaco
09-11-2011, 03:04 PM
Great! Thank You PIANO
roldan
09-11-2011, 03:20 PM
thanks!!!!!!
amlteam
09-11-2011, 03:54 PM
thanks :)
jedisaurus
09-11-2011, 04:12 PM
Stupid question...but what exactly are demos?
octagonproplex
09-11-2011, 04:26 PM
Thanks!
ygmmasta
09-11-2011, 04:40 PM
Thank you so very much!
Piano
09-11-2011, 05:03 PM
cheeseparty67
09-11-2011, 05:24 PM
Thanks so much!
Am I the only one getting "temporarily unavailable"?
bishtyboshty
09-11-2011, 05:27 PM
Thanks so much!
Am I the only one getting "temporarily unavailable"?
I was able to download it straight away... Just keep trying.
timedome
09-11-2011, 05:55 PM
Thanks so much! Hope you are able to get this for Deathly Hallows Part 2! (or the actual sessions for that matter, hehe).
Interesting though... even in these demos they don't have the film version of "Stealing Locket". This demo still seems to be what appears on the album. Listen to that part in the film and you can tell it has been re-scored. Maybe it was a last minute effort.
I think the same thing also happened to part of "Bathilda Bagshot".
raucous80cat
09-11-2011, 06:56 PM
Thank you very much!!!
I solemnly swear I'm going to download it!
Knox!!!
seanmathews009
09-11-2011, 07:00 PM
NICEEEE
movied
09-11-2011, 07:17 PM
it isn't much, but i made it before someone puts something better up. looks good in itunes.

dekamaster2
09-11-2011, 07:44 PM
Thanks!
VenomShock
09-12-2011, 03:38 AM
these are awesome; thank you so much!
A ton of unused music
Hopefully the real sessions will leak!
Ghostsoldier
09-13-2011, 04:14 AM
Awesome stuff!
timedome
09-13-2011, 11:05 AM
I have to ask... since I don't see it in these demos... but does ANYONE know what the music was that played during the wedding when everyone is dancing? Is it original composition or is it source music, if so, what? Been dieing to have it.
helixGB
09-13-2011, 11:17 AM
I have to ask... since I don't see it in these demos... but does ANYONE know what the music was that played during the wedding when everyone is dancing? Is it original composition or is it source music, if so, what? Been dieing to have it.
The piece is called 'Humours of Glendart' from the CD 'Spirit of Ireland' on KPM/EMI, written by Greg Knowles and Mike Taylor.
Charlot
09-13-2011, 12:00 PM
Thanks a lot.
It's weird that the beginning of Bellatrix was supposed to be used for the destruction of Lovegood's House but that they decided not to put it. Also, you can see that Snape to Malfoy Manor was first used for Harry's arrival at the manor with the Snatchers. It's interesting when you ear these demos and then the real album, you realise how much work the composers put on the scores to make them as great as possible.
darth2602
09-13-2011, 12:42 PM
ANYONE > the tracks of part 1 & 2 seem to be in good order, BUT where ti place the bonus tracks of the part 1 deluxe for a good track order ? do you have the good tracklistiong : part 1 + part 2 + bonus ???
Lotman
09-13-2011, 04:06 PM
Yes, see here: FSM Board: Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows 1 Chronological (
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=80226&forumID=1&archive=0)
The beginning of the Bellatrix track on the bonus disc was always Leaving the Lovegood's; they just edited together some cues for the CD. And not everything is in the demos; I think Snape to Malfoy's Manor was always scored like that - Desplat just used the same motif later on.
Charlot
09-13-2011, 04:13 PM
I know that Leaving the Lovegood's is at the beginning of "Bellatrix", I was just saying that they didn't use it in the movie. Without hearing the demos I wouldn't have known that Desplat had scored that music for this scene.
Compos_JSJ
09-13-2011, 05:42 PM
lim2403
09-14-2011, 07:31 PM
Thanks a lot!!!
namikaze
09-14-2011, 08:43 PM
Thank You
ggctuk2005
09-14-2011, 10:34 PM
Stupid question...but what exactly are demos?
Basically they are sequenced versions of the tracks that are made using sample libraries like EWQLSO. They're made to 'try out' the cues before they're orchestrated for the recording sessions.
hyut7
09-15-2011, 10:07 PM
This is soooooooo awesome!
Being the greatest Desplat fan, I am so very excited to get ma hands on Demos for one of his scores! THIS IS DEFINITELY A FIRST!
Thanks Thanks Thanks to the uploader of these Demos! If there are any Desplat works/Demos that you get your hands on, then please share them!!!
Also, Thanks to the AlbumArt Cover uploader! Nice cover! I'm using it!
DAKoftheOTA
09-15-2011, 11:06 PM
Are all of the duplicates just alternates? Cause they're not labeled as alternates, it's just the same track twice in a row, save for the reel and cue number
lim2403
09-16-2011, 08:45 PM
They are alternates for those I already listened to. Anyone knows what name or what scene "32-Part 1 (5m50v2)" would fit?
Ozon528
01-19-2012, 09:18 PM
Could please someone do a re-up?
Recording
02-17-2012, 10:54 PM
can you do a re-upload ???, please
mgm5215
02-17-2012, 10:59 PM
Here's a upload I did a few months:
Complete Demos.rar (
http://www.mediafire.com/?6u6uyjsdvarcaqy)[COLOR="Silver"]
I hope that the demos for Part 2 get leaked. The final mix excluded a lot of interesting details of the score (bass, chorus, Desplat's synth pulse played in Statues, The Grey Lady, In The Chamber Of Secrets and Courtyard Apocalypse). And also, there's some music from the disc which it's not on the demos of Part 1 (Farewell To Dobby, The Elder Wand, the film version of Dobby Appears, and Harry & Ron To The Rescue). And obviously, the recording sessions of both scores.
hyut7
02-18-2012, 04:23 AM
I certainly hope that my Desplat's PART 2 DEMOS are leaked somewhere online as well (hopefully here)!
mgm5215
02-18-2012, 05:10 AM
I hope.
seanmathews009
02-18-2012, 06:34 AM
I certainly hope that my Desplat's PART 2 DEMOS are leaked somewhere online as well (hopefully here)!
So leak them yourself? :D
theodred27
02-18-2012, 11:16 AM
Didn't know there had that kind of release for Deathly Hallows.
Isaias Caetano
02-18-2012, 02:29 PM
Pode re-upload?
Obrigado
Isaias Caetano
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil
mgm5215
02-18-2012, 04:07 PM
Pode re-upload?
Obrigado
Complete Demos.rar (
http://www.mediafire.com/?6u6uyjsdvarcaqy)
rerith
02-19-2012, 01:06 PM
thanks!
cosinus
02-19-2012, 05:34 PM
I don't think these are the original mockups done by Mr Desplat himself. I cannot imagine any director would accept this terrible quality. Thanks though, as listening to them is very interesting.
DAKoftheOTA
02-19-2012, 05:43 PM
I don't think these are the original mockups done by Mr Desplat himself. I cannot imagine any director would accept this terrible quality. Thanks though, as listening to them is very interesting.
Can you imagine any director accepting the On Stranger Tides demos? Granted, they're not in a horrible quality, but I think many would agree with me in that they suck.
cosinus
02-19-2012, 05:54 PM
Can you imagine any director accepting the On Stranger Tides demos? Granted, they're not in a horrible quality, but I think many would agree with me in that they suck.
The On Stranger Tides demos are much more better, these HP7.1 demos sound like someone recreated them with Sibelius ore something like that by typing the score.
DAKoftheOTA
02-19-2012, 06:35 PM
IMO, it's as if Zimmer threw out everything from PotC 1-3 in the recycle bin, and they were left there to deteriorate. Then some bum comes along, discovers them, and says "hey, these are great!" and Rob Marshall uses them, much to Zimmer's dismay, which is why they sound like shit.
cosinus
02-19-2012, 06:42 PM
IMO, it's as if Zimmer threw out everything from PotC 1-3 in the recycle bin, and they were left there to deteriorate. Then some bum comes along, discovers them, and says "hey, these are great!" and Rob Marshall uses them, much to Zimmer's dismay, which is why they sound like shit.
Just to make that obvious, I'm not talking about musical quality, but about how the mockups are produced. On Stranger Tides is no score you could compare with Depslat's Potter at all, no doubt.
xphile7777
10-28-2012, 10:58 PM
Thanks Mgm5215 for the re-up! :)
ZeekePullman503
10-29-2012, 12:19 AM
Just to make that obvious, I'm not talking about musical quality, but about how the mockups are produced. On Stranger Tides is no score you could compare with Depslat's Potter at all, no doubt.
Some director's don't need stellar quality. They know that it's not what the final product would sound like, the purpose of the demos is to show some tunes, moods, instrumentation, it has absolutley nothing to do with quality. Zimmer may have better software to produce his demos, but so what? The point was to simply have an output for Desplat's musical ideas so the director could hear them before anything was recorded, in no way were they meant to be as good as the final product, nor are any demos for that matter, if the point was to make them sound amazingly produced then why bother recording the score in the first place, [sarcasm] just throw the amazingly produced demos in there, that'll be fine. [sarcasm]
mgm5215
10-29-2012, 01:01 AM
I agree. Demos are the same thing like playing the scores in the piano or in a keyboard.
David Yates always said that he puts a lot of attention on the music, he mentioned it in Creating The World Of Harry Potter: Sound And Music.
Same with Cuaron in Prisoner Of Azkaban, thanks to him, Williams created a masterpiece that truly represented the Harry Potter's world and characters.
ZeekePullman503
10-29-2012, 02:05 AM
Since these have been resurrected, I thought i'd share a preview my own arrangement of my personal favorite theme from Deathly Hallows Part 1 from "1m6 Harry's Closet (/Polyjuice, but i'm only referring to Harry's Closet)" I recreated the cue and had my own fun with it, tell me what you guys think! (and yes, it's synth):
"1m6pt Harry's Closet (With Choir)"
1m6pt1 Harry's Closet (With Choir) by zeeky5678 on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free (
http://soundcloud.com/zeeky5678/1m6pt1-harrys-closet-with)
I'm hoping to, at some point, make it full length, and resemble the film version of when Ron Leaves, but of course with my own spin on it. And of course it's not done yet. Just having some fun with it.
mgm5215
10-29-2012, 03:26 AM
Well, I did a edit of the scores adding choirs from the score sheets with Kontakt Library Choir and mixing it with Goldwave:
Broomsticks And Fire (Louder Choir Mix).mp3 (
http://www.mediafire.com/?4bsez10peu02f7p)
Cues.rar (
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?534nzyu62cmhq9b)
Voldemort's End (Louder Choir Mix).mp3 (
http://www.mediafire.com/?llcn69gywdmwbli)
It's preliminary.
ispalko070480
12-01-2012, 10:54 PM
any chance of a reup?
Thanks,
Rob
mgm5215
12-01-2012, 11:29 PM
The re-up is in the HP thread.
hyut7
12-01-2012, 11:34 PM
The re-up is in the HP thread.
which thread is that? Can I please get a link to that thread. I'd be ever so grateful to you.
mgm5215
12-01-2012, 11:53 PM
hahah123
12-02-2012, 12:01 AM
Well, I did a edit of the scores adding choirs from the score sheets with Kontakt Library Choir and mixing it with Goldwave:
Broomsticks And Fire (Louder Choir Mix).mp3 (
http://www.mediafire.com/?4bsez10peu02f7p)
Cues.rar (
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?534nzyu62cmhq9b)
Voldemort's End (Louder Choir Mix).mp3 (
http://www.mediafire.com/?llcn69gywdmwbli)
It's preliminary.
Hi, could you re-upload these edits?
mgm5215
12-02-2012, 12:20 AM
I'm working in new re-edits.
hahah123
12-02-2012, 12:26 AM
Okay, good!
ispalko070480
12-02-2012, 12:37 AM
Thank you very much.
Rob
bollemanneke
12-21-2012, 02:30 PM
Someone told me the hp8 demos were 'out there too', but they weren't shared yet. Does anyone hyave them? (Pms are welcome.)
mgm5215
12-21-2012, 03:51 PM
Really? I hope they get leaked.
amh1219
12-21-2012, 06:16 PM
That would be awesome!
mgm5215
12-21-2012, 06:29 PM
Hope someone leak it. Don't like how the final mix of the score was done, and the demos usually have a better mix of the instruments.
ggctuk2005
12-21-2012, 06:35 PM
Hope someone leak it. Don't like how the final mix of the score was done, and the demos usually have a better mix of the instruments.
Yeah, and although it wouldn't be the final take, it might add some weight to the theory that the finale might just be tracked material.
mgm5215
12-21-2012, 06:48 PM
It wasn't tracked. The sheets has the original ones from COS. Also, there's more thematic material from DH1 in the sheets (the friends's theme adapted as Harry and Ginny's love theme in Ginny - it wasn't used in the movie -, and played in Triage).
ZeekePullman503
12-21-2012, 07:36 PM
It wasn't tracked. The sheets has the original ones from COS. Also, there's more thematic material from DH1 in the sheets (the friends's theme adapted as Harry and Ginny's love theme in Ginny - it wasn't used in the movie -, and played in Triage).
The finale actually was tracked from Sorcerer's Stone, not COS, but yeah. The cue listing confirm that they're just re-recorded cues from Chamber of Secrets and Sorcerer's Stone
ggctuk2005
12-21-2012, 07:39 PM
The finale actually was tracked from Sorcerer's Stone, not COS, but yeah. The cue listing confirm that they're just re-recorded cues from Chamber of Secrets and Sorcerer's Stone
That's not actually tracking if they re-recorded cues. I do suspect the finale is tracked in from Philosopher's Stone, though - the instrumentation is very, very close. If it's not, Desplat might have brought in the original instrumentalists and had them set up the same way Williams did for the first film.
ZeekePullman503
12-21-2012, 07:46 PM
That's not actually tracking if they re-recorded cues. I do suspect the finale is tracked in from Philosopher's Stone, though - the instrumentation is very, very close. If it's not, Desplat might have brought in the original instrumentalists and had them set up the same way Williams did for the first film.
I'm sorry I misspoke, I simply meant the finale music is taken from Sorcerer's Stone, the sheet music for it. It's NOT the same music however, I can confirm this, i've put the Sorcerer's Stone version and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 version up against each other, they're different. The instrumentation is very close because it's the exact same sheet music, it doesn't mean it was the exact same people who played it in the first film, granted they COULD have, but I highly doubt they would take the time to track down the exact people who did it in the first film. I'm honestly not sure why they didn't just go ahead and track everything in, I did up basically the exact same cue using Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets material, but it's still not the same. I can confirm they're different
bollemanneke
12-21-2012, 07:49 PM
Well, personally I think they should have used the COS finale in DH2, because the end s much more majestic and powerful, whereas in HP1 it's just bad. Incidentally, it's the only cue of which I prefer the City or Prague performance to the original thing.
ZeekePullman503
12-21-2012, 07:51 PM
Well, personally I think they should have used the COS finale in DH2, because the end s much more majestic and powerful, whereas in HP1 it's just bad. Incidentally, it's the only cue of which I prefer the City or Prague performance to the original thing.
While I agree that the Cos finally would've been much grander, I think they used Sorcerer's Stone for the simple reason that it was the finale of the first film, and now they're ending with the same cue for the last film, it's just symbolic really
ggctuk2005
12-21-2012, 07:57 PM
I'm sorry I misspoke, I simply meant the finale music is taken from Sorcerer's Stone, the sheet music for it. It's NOT the same music however, I can confirm this, i've put the Sorcerer's Stone version and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 version up against each other, they're different. The instrumentation is very close because it's the exact same sheet music, it doesn't mean it was the exact same people who played it in the first film, granted they COULD have, but I highly doubt they would take the time to track down the exact people who did it in the first film. I'm honestly not sure why they didn't just go ahead and track everything in, I did up basically the exact same cue using Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets material, but it's still not the same. I can confirm they're different
John Williams is renowned for taking each of his cues several times over. There are most likely several takes to the two cues comprising the finale piece, which could have been used. Look at Star Wars as an example: when music from TPM is used, it's not always the same take that TPM itself used.
ZeekePullman503
12-21-2012, 08:56 PM
John Williams is renowned for taking each of his cues several times over. There are most likely several takes to the two cues comprising the finale piece, which could have been used. Look at Star Wars as an example: when music from TPM is used, it's not always the same take that TPM itself used.
I highly doubt that's the case. The cue lists NEVER include the tracked cues, Chamber of Secrets had cues tracked from Sorcerer's Stone, but they didn't say which cues from Sorcerer's Stone they used because they directly used the same takes from Sorcerer's Stone, I had to go through the Sorcerer's Stone sessions to figure out what they used, and Deathly Hallows Part 2 had the tracked cues in their cue listings, which means the sheet music had to be there with the other cues, therefore, why would they need the sheet music if they were just tracking it. Plus, the performances sound alike yes, but it's obviously a different orchestra, The cue in the finale they re recorded from Chamber of Secrets as an insert "Dumbledore and Harry" sounds VERY different from it's Chamber of Secrets counterpart. Not slightly, VERY, I could tell immediately it wasn't apart of the Chamber of Secrets recordings.
ggctuk2005
12-21-2012, 09:02 PM
Plus, the performances sound alike yes, but it's obviously a different orchestra
It's the same orchestra. The London Symphony Orchestra did all eight films.
ZeekePullman503
12-21-2012, 09:06 PM
It's the same orchestra. The London Symphony Orchestra did all eight films.
Well, it's a very different performance by different players then, it just sounds too different to be an alternate take. And still doesn't explain why the sheet music was required for Dh 2
mgm5215
12-21-2012, 09:54 PM
Nicholas Hooper used the Chamber Orchestra Of London.
ggctuk2005
12-21-2012, 09:58 PM
Well, it's a very different performance by different players then, it just sounds too different to be an alternate take. And still doesn't explain why the sheet music was required for Dh 2
Possibly, but again using TPM as an example, I've heard takes that sound very, very different. I'll willingly believe that it's a new version, but it definitely sounds like it could have come from the TPS/CoS recordings. Maybe that's what he was going for.
Nicholas Hooper used the Chamber Orchestra Of London.
He apparently used the LSO for Order of the Phoenix, but I couldn't find any info on the orchestra for HBP (without looking at the DVD), so I assumed it was the same.
ZeekePullman503
12-21-2012, 10:04 PM
Possibly, but again using TPM as an example, I've heard takes that sound very, very different. I'll willingly believe that it's a new version, but it definitely sounds like it could have come from the TPS/CoS recordings. Maybe that's what he was going for.
He apparently used the LSO for Order of the Phoenix, but I couldn't find any info on the orchestra for HBP (without looking at the DVD), so I assumed it was the same.
I'd be happy to show you more what I was talking about. I'm more referring to the instruments even sound different rather than just the performance
ggctuk2005
12-21-2012, 10:13 PM
I'd be happy to show you more what I was talking about. I'm more referring to the instruments even sound different rather than just the performance
I know what you're talking about, but maybe I could use this to illustrate my meaning a bit better: Comparison of TPM TakeToToyurShips.mp3 (
http://www.mediafire.com/?8a44d7mqcuayp23)
This is from the Phantom Menace: two takes of the exact same cue, both very, very different from each other. The instruments and instrumentation sound different, but they're from the same scoring sessions. The point I was trying to get across is that you can't rely on the instruments or instrumentation as an argument to say they come from someplace else. But, alas, unless the sessions come out, we'll probably be talking about this for a long time.
ZeekePullman503
12-21-2012, 10:37 PM
I know what you're talking about, but maybe I could use this to illustrate my meaning a bit better: Comparison of TPM TakeToToyurShips.mp3 (
http://www.mediafire.com/?8a44d7mqcuayp23)
This is from the Phantom Menace: two takes of the exact same cue, both very, very different from each other. The instruments and instrumentation sound different, but they're from the same scoring sessions. The point I was trying to get across is that you can't rely on the instruments or instrumentation as an argument to say they come from someplace else. But, alas, unless the sessions come out, we'll probably be talking about this for a long time.
They honestly don't sound all that different. It sounds more like it could be an Alternate rather than a different take of the exact same cue. Here let me do up a comparison on the Chamber of Secrets portion
hyut7
12-21-2012, 10:39 PM
it isn't much, but i made it before someone puts something better up. looks good in itunes.
The album cover you created was so awesome. Any chance of a reupload of that? I'd appreciate it so much!
ggctuk2005
12-21-2012, 10:45 PM
They honestly don't sound all that different. It sounds more like it could be an Alternate rather than a different take of the exact same cue. Here let me do up a comparison on the Chamber of Secrets portion
From as I understand it, that was take 1. The other take is a later take, but they are indeed from the same cue. Williams is known to alter instrumentation on the spot, that's evident in many of his movies.
I do get that it's a different piece, but the point I was trying to get across was that given how many takes Williams tends to do, it muddies things a tad bit. We don't have any of his other takes for CoS for comparison, and getting a clean section from a DVD rip is not going to be easy.
ZeekePullman503
12-21-2012, 10:54 PM
From as I understand it, that was take 1. The other take is a later take, but they are indeed from the same cue. Williams is known to alter instrumentation on the spot, that's evident in many of his movies.
I do get that it's a different piece, but the point I was trying to get across was that given how many takes Williams tends to do, it muddies things a tad bit. We don't have any of his other takes for CoS for comparison, and getting a clean section from a DVD rip is not going to be easy.
I wasn't going for entirely clean. :P If we could do that, then we'd all have a feild day here. Williams isn't the only one who does that, in fact TONS of composers do it. Thomas Newman, Harry Gregson-Williams, Michael Giacchino, etc. But I was just going to do it for a mix comparison, in DH2 The Oboe, or English Horn or whatever it is that plays the notes, is panned more to the right then in the CoS sessions, which could mean that the soloist is sitting in a different position, not sure why Williams would change around his orchestra for One Take. In fact, it almost sounds more like a trumpet in Dh 2. I'm also saying that they had the sheets in the sessions, otherwise they wouldn't be listed as part of the cue listing, which they were. But here's the catch, "Dumbledore's Farewell" WAS tracked onto the end of "Severus and Lily" and that is acknowledged in the End Credits, BUT "Dumbledore's Farewell" is NOT listed in the cue listing, so why would some tracked cues be listed and others not? Because they didn't use the sheet music for Dumbledore's Farewell, but DID use the Williams sheet music, which means they were re-recorded.
ggctuk2005
12-21-2012, 10:59 PM
I wasn't going for entirely clean. :P If we could do that, then we'd all have a feild day here. Williams isn't the only one who does that, in fact TONS of composers do it. Thomas Newman, Harry Gregson-Williams, Michael Giacchino, etc. But I was just going to do it for a mix comparison, in DH2 The Oboe, or English Horn or whatever it is that plays the notes, is panned more to the right then in the CoS sessions, which could mean that the soloist is sitting in a different position, not sure why Williams would change around his orchestra for One Take, i'm also saying that they had the sheets in the sessions, otherwise they wouldn't be listed as part of the cue listing, which they were. But here's the catch, "Dumbledore's Farewell" WAS tracked onto the end of "Severus and Lily" and that is acknowledged in the End Credits, BUT "Dumbledore's Farewell" is NOT listed in the cue listing, so why would some tracked cues be listed and others not? Because they didn't use the sheet music for Dumbledore's Farewell, but DID use the Williams sheet music, which means they were re-recorded.
As I understand it, Abbey Road's setup for the LSO, at least in films I know of, consists of 24 microphones for the orchestra, to allow certain post-production tweaking, such as panning. Of course, you are probably right in this case, but the DVD mixes are quite often actually different even from the mixes on the sessions discs.
As I said, we won't absolutely know for sure unless the sessions leak out. It's possible they recorded the cue but added elements from the Williams mixes in, maybe they used it as a temp track, maybe they used it as a guide. All I know is they tried their damndest to make it sound like it could have been directly lifted from those sessions.
ZeekePullman503
12-22-2012, 02:20 AM
As I understand it, Abbey Road's setup for the LSO, at least in films I know of, consists of 24 microphones for the orchestra, to allow certain post-production tweaking, such as panning. Of course, you are probably right in this case, but the DVD mixes are quite often actually different even from the mixes on the sessions discs.
As I said, we won't absolutely know for sure unless the sessions leak out. It's possible they recorded the cue but added elements from the Williams mixes in, maybe they used it as a temp track, maybe they used it as a guide. All I know is they tried their damndest to make it sound like it could have been directly lifted from those sessions.
True, but in the recent sessions for The Hobbit, material from the original Lord of the Rings trilogy was re-recorded for certain places.
DAKoftheOTA
12-22-2012, 02:30 AM
True, but in the recent sessions for The Hobbit, material from the original Lord of the Rings trilogy was re-recorded for certain places.
You bet your ass it was. "Old Friends" is the second track (pretty sure it's the second track) on The Hobbit OST, and the Rivendell theme can be heard again. It plays (obviously) before they arrive at Rivendell. I'm pretty sure I heard some other themes as well during the film
ZeekePullman503
12-22-2012, 02:36 AM
You bet your ass it was. "Old Friends" is the second track (pretty sure it's the second track) on The Hobbit OST, and the Rivendell theme can be heard again. It plays (obviously) before they arrive at Rivendell. I'm pretty sure I heard some other themes as well during the film
Not only that, and the ones on both versions of the Public Release, but even in some secondary sessions, Jackson literally had him re-record exact cues from the trilogy, as well as overlays that are not present in the album versions. Most particularly from memory, I know the flute or recorder solo playing the Shire theme when the actual Hobbit logo comes up, is an overlay and not present on the Album version of "My Dear Frodo"
ggctuk2005
12-22-2012, 06:04 PM
True, but in the recent sessions for The Hobbit, material from the original Lord of the Rings trilogy was re-recorded for certain places.
It's quite funny you should mention that, actually, because I've heard that a lot of the new score got ditched in favour of tracking from LOTR cues.
mgm5215
12-22-2012, 06:26 PM
I don't think so. The old thematic material heard in the movie was re-recorded and re-written, including the nazgul theme used during the last battle.
If the score was released in January, it would be a lot different than the CD which it was edited long before the December recording sessions.
Anyway, I hope the DH2 demos get leaked soon.
ZeekePullman503
12-23-2012, 07:36 AM
I don't think so. The old thematic material heard in the movie was re-recorded and re-written, including the nazgul theme used during the last battle.
If the score was released in January, it would be a lot different than the CD which it was edited long before the December recording sessions.
Anyway, I hope the DH2 demos get leaked soon.
On the OST, it was rewritten, but im saying in the film itself, there were secondary sessions that were re-recordings of LOTR cues, and also overlays, and etc. just for the film.
And ggctuk2005 I have heard the same, a LOT of material on the OST was unused in favor of re-recorded LOTR cues, not tracked, but re-recorded.
ggctuk2005
12-24-2012, 09:07 PM
On the OST, it was rewritten, but im saying in the film itself, there were secondary sessions that were re-recordings of LOTR cues, and also overlays, and etc. just for the film.
And ggctuk2005 I have heard the same, a LOT of material on the OST was unused in favor of re-recorded LOTR cues, not tracked, but re-recorded.
Couldn't have put it better myself: I used 'tracking' because that's what everybody was saying it was on another forum.
MushroomCastle123
01-14-2013, 02:16 PM
Hi guys, any chance of a re-up of the demos? :zillawalk:
mgm5215
01-16-2013, 03:56 AM
Hi guys, any chance of a re-up of the demos? :zillawalk:
dh demos.rar (
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?iotx189drd3bklt)
scorehunter66
01-16-2013, 10:53 AM
I've got the Harry Potter - Prisoner of Azkaban FYC promo CD if anyone's interested in that?
scorehunter66
01-16-2013, 07:10 PM
And the Chamber of Secrets one too among many others :-)
ggctuk2005
01-16-2013, 07:36 PM
Would love to check those FYCs out.
scorehunter66
01-16-2013, 07:40 PM
Would love to check those FYCs out.
I'll do an upload of them all in one thread. Reminds me... I haven't sorted out those 'Lion King' theatrical tracks out for you yet! My memory LOL!
ggctuk2005
01-16-2013, 07:42 PM
I'll do an upload of them all in one thread. Reminds me... I haven't sorted out those 'Lion King' theatrical tracks out for you yet! My memory LOL!
Wait what? I didn't know it was you! :D
It's okay, a lot's been going on by the looks of things. At least that's one thing sorted out for you.
mgm5215
01-16-2013, 09:11 PM
I've got the Harry Potter - Prisoner of Azkaban FYC promo CD if anyone's interested in that?
Do you have the DH2 promo? It has Voldemort's Influence, which it's missing from the film and the commercial CD.
scorehunter66
01-16-2013, 09:14 PM
Wait what? I didn't know it was you! :D
It's okay, a lot's been going on by the looks of things. At least that's one thing sorted out for you.
No cause I uploaded it though it's not the version I'm after!
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Do you have the DH2 promo? It has Voldemort's Influence, which it's missing from the film and the commercial CD.
I know someone who has, so will borrow it off them.
ggctuk2005
01-16-2013, 09:28 PM
No cause I uploaded it though it's not the version I'm after![COLOR="Silver"]
Yeah, they're screwy with FYCs. For some reason there's apparently a rule that came into force a few years back that says that it has to be the film mix.
chris_thornton
01-18-2013, 01:58 AM
Are you able to send me this via some link or something? i will do ANYTHING in return! - thank you so much!!
MushroomCastle123
01-21-2013, 03:10 PM
Thank you!! :D
DjawadiFan
03-06-2013, 01:01 AM
dh demos.rar (
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?iotx189drd3bklt)
Thanks mgm, did you get TheDh2 Fyc Album ?
mgm5215
03-06-2013, 01:11 AM
I don't have it.
killmyneighbor
11-28-2013, 10:41 AM
the links are broken, could someone reupload the album? Thanks a lot !!!
mgm5215
11-28-2013, 02:56 PM
the links are broken, could someone reupload the album? Thanks a lot !!!
I did a re-up wth a extended version of the demos (68 cues).
DjawadiFan
11-28-2013, 03:07 PM
the links are broken, could someone reupload the album? Thanks a lot !!!
I did a re-up wth a extended version of the demos (68 cues).
Kudos to MGM..
Thread 130971
killmyneighbor
11-28-2013, 05:01 PM
thank you both guys !!!
carlican
01-06-2015, 02:54 AM
Who can share with me this archive??
I can download because megaupload is broken.
Thanks men!
Boliita
04-15-2015, 08:19 AM
Can you re-upload?
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