hi! please upload the singles of vangelis thank you so much


the singles & albums of Vangelis (bootlegs - unofficials) that are not in torrent and internet. i'm waiting for your answer my friend

Seriously kalibre888... these are requests and those go in the requests section of this forum. You do not post them here and you DO NOT spam my inbox asking for them! If i had what you wanted i might have uploaded them, but now you just earned yourself the title of officially "IGNORED"

Seriously kalibre888... these are requests and those go in the requests section of this forum. You do not post them here and you DO NOT spam my inbox asking for them! If i had what you wanted i might have uploaded them, but now you just earned yourself the title of officially "IGNORED"

Sorry you were annoyed by the n00b Calidoran, there is just some people who are hard to reach.

Vangelis, footage of him composing his new album :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsW1SudRL4

Wou! That's a really a good news!

I am already loving that arpeggiator!

Let's hope he does include the rubber duck sound as well! ;)

That's hilarious. Love the rubber duck!

Can't wait to check out the album.

Thank you all for this thread.

I thought I knew the music of Vangelis but here I discovered a completely new world. Thank you.

I was looking how to say thanks and I want to contribute with something: Vangelis - Robert Janson - Swiadectwo. I think it isn't in the thread, but maybe I miss something. Anyway, here is:


http://www.4shared.com/rar/HYWqECOCba/JerryGoldsmith_2004_At20thCent.html

But I need that somebody make a good mirror because this link is going to expire soon.

While we're all waiting for Rosetta, here's an awesome clip of Vangelis on a French TV show from 1974:
• https://youtu.be/EreNUTCgjlc

Enjoy!

I've just learned that both Earth and L'Apocalypse Des Animaux have been re-released remastered (by Vangelis) on 180 gram vinyl. Anyone any more information? A CD re-release possibly on the way?

Both albums are listed on Discogs, but there is no information on a CD release so far. The artwork for L'Apocalypse Des Animaux looks very much like that mooted for the Universal CD release that never was from a few years back.

Here's the complete score to The Bounty. One of his best. I believe it should be on YouTube for everyone to hear. 1984 ! From the isolated Blu-ray :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4__ZYv1hok&t=0s

sounds nice!
Apocalypse Des Animaux was one of my favourite album when I was a kid ...
Souvenirs souvenirs...

Both albums are listed on Discogs, but there is no information on a CD release so far. The artwork for L'Apocalypse Des Animaux looks very much like that mooted for the Universal CD release that never was from a few years back.

Yeah I searched myself but couldn't find any information outside of the vinyls. I have a terrible record player so it's not really worth purchasing the new vinyls (yet). I really do hope they'll do the CD release still. I remember them being announced but dropped with no real reason ever being given.

There's artwork for a promo copy of Rosetta on Discogs, so there could be a nice person out there who might share at some point....?

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/Rosetta%20promo%20a_zpsczov7uf3.jpg.html)

I've ordered the signed copy, but that sadly won't show up before the end of the month.

I've ordered the signed copy, but that sadly won't show up before the end of the month.

Signed copy?

Yeah through the udiscovermusic site you could order a CD copy that's signed by Vangelis. It was availble for a limited amount of copies.

B*gger.

Both albums are listed on Discogs, but there is no information on a CD release so far. The artwork for L'Apocalypse Des Animaux looks very much like that mooted for the Universal CD release that never was from a few years back.

The remastered albums will be available on Qobuz (http://www.qobuz.com/de-de/interpreter/vangelis/download-streaming-albums?page=3#results) most likely.

Odes and Rhapsodies were already there. Earth is been there for a while now.

But you cannot shop there unless you are from selected countries only. If anyone is able to shop there it would be nice to compare them.

I am simply too happy with what I already have that I never gave much thoughts to that.


[CENTER]There's artwork for a promo copy of Rosetta on Discogs, so there could be a nice person out there who might share at some point....?

So far there are only two tracks, "Rosetta" ‎and "Mission Accomplie (Rosetta's Waltz)" are available on the "exclusive" site above I'm afraid!


Here's the complete score to The Bounty. One of his best. I believe it should be on YouTube for everyone to hear. 1984 ! From the isolated Blu-ray :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4__ZYv1hok&t=0s

Any chance to have a "less-chopped-out-audio-spectrum" version to enhance our personal listening experience? :)

So far there are only two tracks, "Rosetta" ‎and "Mission Accomplie (Rosetta's Waltz)" are available on the "exclusive" site above I'm afraid!

There does appear to be a promo CD of the full album out there somewhere:

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/Rosetta%20promo_zpstgndpshp.jpg.html)

There does appear to be a promo CD of the full album out there somewhere...

Indeed. But that is not intended for wider audiences. Which means we all have to wait a little while before having a chance to buy it. :)

FOR PROMOTIONAL USE ONLY - NOT FOR SALE.

Down at the bottom. ;)

AS USUAL FOR EVERYTHING VANGELIS.

Just something a bit different. What about you composers out there, including myself composing a piece of music for the new year of 2017 that sounds the best that you can think that Vangelis would compose ? We've got plenty of time from now. Bit of a silly competition but would be fun ?

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"Nemo Studios Master Sessions" is no urban legend; I saw it listed for trade on two forums years ago, and have been hunting for it ever since. It bears no resemblance to the 2010 Tapes Collection.

I'm assuming that by "Tapes version", kababi refers to the 1982 bootleg cassette; if so, that boot has at least two exclusive cues, one of which ("Leon's Interrogation") has never been heard outside of the film.

Just because it was listed somewhere on the internet does not mean it is real.

Just something a bit different. What about you composers out there, including myself composing a piece of music for the new year of 2017 that sounds the best that you can think that Vangelis would compose ? We've got plenty of time from now. Bit of a silly competition but would be fun?

I am not that good at composing like that, but I'll gladly help in the post production stage if needed! :)

The remastered albums will be available on Qobuz (http://www.qobuz.com/de-de/interpreter/vangelis/download-streaming-albums?page=3#results) most likely.

Odes and Rhapsodies were already there. Earth is been there for a while now.

But you cannot shop there unless you are from selected countries only. If anyone is able to shop there it would be nice to compare them.

I am simply too happy with what I already have that I never gave much thoughts to that.

I can purchase from the website, I've done it about five years ago for Jean-Michel Jarre's Rarities Studio Masters (which are garbage BTW). But I own that already on CD, I'd love to hear these but I'm not really willing to pay for digital files that I'm not guaranteed will still be there in say a couple of years :/

That stuff is not going to be pressed on cd anytime soon... unless intended for a bigger commemorative box set perhaps. But long live the composer. :)

If that is a remaster with nothing else on it we can safely assume the volume is just a tad bit louder.
Apocalypse Des Animaux as remastered by Fictitious Productions was fairly better than the original, so long live Fictitious! ;)

Yeah it's a shame they're probably not going to press these onto CD. But I do find it odd keeping it on vinyl and probably as a download some time soon. But we'll see, it's always worth hoping!
Also the Apocalypse Des Animaux remaster was actually released? I always thought that was left in limbo after announcement of it being released a bunch of years ago. I believe I still have it ordered from a site, it was never cancelled.

Edit: For those that still want Rosetta signed, you can order it here:
https://store.udiscovermusic.com/*/*/Rosetta-Signed/59BY0000000
https://store.udiscovermusic.com/*/*/Rosetta-Signed-CD-LP/59DH0000000

L'Apocalypse des Animaux, La Fete Sauvage & Opera Sauvage were all listed for release by Esoteric in 2011, but never surfaced, and no explanation was given by the label. These RM's are by Polydor themselves, so maybe they will consider releasing the others if the first two sell well/

The graphics of the remasters follows in the same style as the graphics in the Esoteric remasters... so we shall assume there is a continuum between the initial Esoteric offerings and the latest additions on Polydor.
Esoteric is a sub label of Cherry Red Records Ltd. which is pretty a different entity anyway.

Perhaps it was chosen to carry on with the legal agreements made with Polydor at the time. It would make sense... but really we cannot tell.

The problem here is carrying releasing music aimed only at collectors. And a vinyl press is mainly aimed at that.

How many of you have a serviced record player?

Surely most are definitely having at least a decent cd player if not a better music server alternative possibly.

Also to enjoy music at an acceptable quality with a record player you need to invest at least three times the price of an average cd player to compare the outputs at a similar quality.

I have all of these options but when you are releasing music you should cover all the possibilities out there... not one which is a bit anachronistic in the 00's.
Or at least do offer also an alternate way of enjoying the content on it.

My two cents on the subject of course...

Vangelis's estranged son lives in London to this day still trying to make it in the music industry ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkpZ3BIcOLE

But why were the previous remasters only on CD and these only on vinyl? It seems rather contradicting. On the other hand, it's the music industry, so really anything seems to go without any logic...

Oh and today is Rosetta's official release! Anyone already received/bought it? My copy was shipped yesterday, but I shouldn't be receiving it for atleast another three days at best.

Vangelis's estranged son lives in London to this day still trying to make it in the music industry ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkpZ3BIcOLE

Nah... He doesn't look like his father at all!
I would expect more hairs for a starter! :)


But why were the previous remasters only on CD and these only on vinyl? It seems rather contradicting. On the other hand, it's the music industry, so really anything seems to go without any logic...

Yep. You got that right!

The trend has been into releasing exclusive record releases for a while now.
I don't personally see every good reason to put on vinyl a digital master for instance... but that seems to be the trend sometimes.
It did make sense to refresh something purely digital. It still makes sense on a narrow house, techno and indie base... but a good remaster might not ever need to be pushed on vinyl.

So out of curiosity (and it only being €6,49) I've downloaded the remastered download release of Earth on Qobuz. It "suffers" (https://media.giphy.com/media/qs6ev2pm8g9dS/giphy.gif) from the same reverb that was added on the 2013 remasters. Now personally I didn't find that really distracting on most tracks except for Dervish D. And here I don't really mind it either too much. But it does make me wonder why they felt the need (and why Vangelis thought this was okay) to add this. Because it sounds really really good. Seems the tapes have been kept in great condition, so it's just not really worthwhile.

Thanks shadyelg.

Could you perhaps edit the quote out? I'm currently talking with someone about the best way to go over this considering I bought it from a website and most (if not all) the stuff posted here is mostly fan compiled, hard to get or unavailable altogether and this is none of that. Plus I don't want to run in a possible ban on my account either because I did pay actual money for it also. Hang on while I'm seeing what's the best way going on from here on out.

Just bought Rosetta, crap at giving reviews but a decent album, will probably grow on me. Just a bit interesting though, track 8. "Rosetta" is more or less the exact same theme as Frances Lai's main theme from the 1985 movie "Marie" ? Hear link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfLo4MYCG8Q
Maybe in 1985 Lai copied a Vangelis theme in the first place, all the rage in film round that time was trying to sound Vangelisey :)

I definitely like the "Rosetta" album! A lot!

It carries on in the same vein as sampled on Trilogy disc 3. Even the bloomin' wind swooshes in between tracks...
Electronic, ambient, and new age elements all in there with the typical classical Vangelis feel blended in.

I did not really expect to get a taste of that ever again after what it has leaked out in the latest years.
The reverb is pretty in there so hopefully it is not going to be remastered like that in 20 years time. :)
Most of the elements that characterized Vangelis music in the past are all in there.

I guess he had all the artistic freedom needed to accomplish his vision of the music this time.
He has written another masterpiece. Period.

"Albedo 0.06" arpeggio is already giving me the goosebumps... and the pulsating "Perihelion" is another monster of a track.
It might be having all the potential of a massive trance anthem in the right hands... so I expect plenty of remixes from the extreme electronic base of aficionados around the world wide web.
Rubber duck is not there damn it... Never mind, it's still on YouTube! :)

I really would have liked him on Blade Runner 2... but it did not seem to be the way it was planned to be perhaps.
But we are being gifted with another gem of his genius and I could not hope for anything better.

Long live the maestro. ;)

Here's a different mix of Albedo 006 I found on Soulseek, interesting but slightly a bit distorted. https://mega.nz/#!khIVwJLL!pDyh0zwKUTX8LvRkK8R6m2zq5PDr3VxxOwRXhINpa1k

Here's a different mix of Albedo 006 I found on Soulseek, interesting but slightly a bit distorted. (https://mega.nz/#!khIVwJLL!pDyh0zwKUTX8LvRkK8R6m2zq5PDr3VxxOwRXhINpa1k)

It looks like it sourced from an mp3 or something. It is not truly lossless. It is 7 db louder compared to the original with +7db on the low end spectrum. Hence the distortion perhaps.

It does sound as a demo or just a try at making the eq sounding as in Blade Runner End Titles on the off World version. Still happy with the original, but interesting. :)

I’ve just been listening through the Tegos tapes and made a new edit of a theme to download. On the original tapes it had lots of fadeouts with no structure so here’s the full theme :) I’ve splashed a slight bit of wind from the bbc sound effects library only because Vangelis used this library on his album The City. A Tegos Theme Vangelis.... https://mega.nz/#!AgRADYoY!ZSLRImLd-jiNtnPH3mPrxtPrnH36EnqC2kjjiE38LjA

Speaking of different mixes of things, has anyone heard the single for "Mission Accomplie (Rosetta's Waltz)"? I'm curious to know if it's any different from the album version.

http://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/rosetta-vangelis/0060255700636

http://www.qobuz.com/ie-en/album/mission-accomplie-rosettas-waltz-vangelis/0060255710199

Duration is the very same...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC7AuS9LTUc&feature A mix. A silly mix but just thought you as Vangelis fans would find it interesting. My video is crap. Notice the crapness of how I've mixed stock footage with Vangelis music that is not my music. How I have no right to do something quite obvious on You Tube. Enyoy :)

I�ve just been listening through the Tegos tapes and made a new edit of a theme... On the original tapes it had lots of fadeouts with no structure so here�s the full theme...

The originals as heard on the VHS has mostly looping... the version that has leaked on the internet has the narration edited out. Hence the fade outs.
If you go to Dr. Stergios Tegos.html (http://www.tegos.gr/index.php/en/) you can hear what the original was like...


My video is crap. Notice the crapness of how I've mixed stock footage with Vangelis music that is not my music. How I have no right to do something quite obvious on You Tube. Enyoy :)

Better than any of my attempts at it so far! :)

I did enjoy the music on top of that! ;)

The originals as heard on the VHS has mostly looping... the version that has leaked on the internet has the narration edited out. Hence the fade outs.
If you go to Dr. Stergios Tegos.html (http://www.tegos.gr/index.php/en/) you can hear what the original was like...



Better than any of my attempts at it so far! :)

I did enjoy the music on top of that! ;)

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Thank you :)

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Vangelis and British Rail. This's interesting. It was an advert for British rail composed by Vangelis
I actually remember it when it was first broadcast on TV :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZMuz-2a06E

Here's The Tegos Tapes, re edited with no gaps at all. A different listening experience for Vangelis's stunning soundtrack :) https://mega.nz/#!M1hlGLSY!qwW5-HmxR4BnO9AZRHH9LjkAPHlmqOPXId8A9HeHeAw

Here's The Tegos Tapes, re edited with no gaps at all. A different listening experience for Vangelis's stunning soundtrack :) https://mega.nz/#!M1hlGLSY!qwW5-HmxR4BnO9AZRHH9LjkAPHlmqOPXId8A9HeHeAw

Nice work Poltergiest2!
now it's one continuous 8,5 hour set, I myself would have preferred there were indexes in there of each of the 35 individual cases....

https://www.discogs.com/Jon-Ice-Theme-From-Antartica/release/2564291
Can anybody share this music with me (us)?
I found it on a forum, but there was no link...

Jon Ice - Theme From Antartica (Vinyl) (https://www.discogs.com/Jon-Ice-Theme-From-Antartica/release/2564291")
Can anybody share this music with me (us)?
I found it on a forum, but there was no link...

Except for the video on the Tube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QimUfscbyb8)... go dig out that mix.
You can still get it, but it is still travelling at nearly 100 bucks...
It sounds as a drum loop was layered on top of a filtered original. Nice idea though. :)

Here's the only versions I am having. Only two tracks out of three were ever shared I'm afraid.

Jon Ice-Theme From Antartica-Out Records-1991 (https://mega.nz/#!YoE2CbJB!SC67TfpWUhrspT_DwvuyiXJbwl84IlsZf3uTGhaTDEI)




Here's The Tegos Tapes (https://mega.nz/#!M1hlGLSY!qwW5-HmxR4BnO9AZRHH9LjkAPHlmqOPXId8A9HeHeAw), re edited with no gaps at all.

A different listening experience for Vangelis's stunning soundtrack :)




That is a whoop of a mix! Nice job sir! ;)

Looks like the previous disappearing remasters are still very much happening, not only that, but a whole bunch more are coming remastered and all in brand new gorgeous packaging.

Pre-order: here (http://store.udiscovermusic.com/*/*/Delectus/5D2D0000000?utm_campaign=VangelisDelectusuDiscover 03&utm_content=VangelisDelectusuDiscover&utm_medium=Referral&utm_source=UMGIMarketing&lf=33dc6d73fef2946f52b6aa61e783edf4)

Looks like the previous disappearing remasters are still very much happening, not only that, but a whole bunch more are coming remastered and all in brand new gorgeous packaging.

Pre-order: here (http://store.udiscovermusic.com/*/*/Delectus/5D2D0000000?utm_campaign=VangelisDelectusuDiscover 03&utm_content=VangelisDelectusuDiscover&utm_medium=Referral&utm_source=UMGIMarketing&lf=33dc6d73fef2946f52b6aa61e783edf4)

Let's hope the plate reverb is not going to work if he plans on using it... :(

I have the boxset pre-ordered as my birthday present (though a bit late by the time of release). I'll keep you updated in about just over three months! :p

Edit: Because of the mess up on the listing I went with the image and seems that the order () is a bit messed up...

Info: The pre-order is totally payed in advance?
Thanks

Amazon bills when the item ships, not when you order.

It basically let them know that you have something that is going to be released soon in your wantlist.

As soon as the item becomes available they will charge your credit card accordingly.

No idea how they do it with credit cards. But they charged me through PayPal immediately.

Amazon does not bill your credit card until the item is "physically" available in their inventory.

PayPal does bill your credit card the moment you click the Pay button! :)

I was just browsing the Vangelis History site, and came across mention of "DIRECT DEMOS" :


(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CDs/d5dd972d3c-IMG_0015_zpsx9vqinlp.jpg.html)

Has anyone got this to share?

I had once a rip of it but sadly deleted them because they were quite boring. It was basically distorted low quality tape recording of the identical songs from Direct album but the highlight was extended Glorianna song. I can't recall whether it was one extended song or perhaps divided to two separated parts

I had once a rip of it but sadly deleted them because they were quite boring. It was basically distorted low quality tape recording of the identical songs from Direct album but the highlight was extended Glorianna song. I can't recall whether it was one extended song or perhaps divided to two separated parts

Oh well! Thanks anyway!

I uploaded Frankenstein ballet to my youtube channel. Someone recorded it with camcorder at the time and the audio is the source of the bootleg album too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjZ6QMArnEs


The moment when "frankenstein" comes out and does his first steps, makes me shed a tear. It's extremely beautiful score and outstanding choreography since personally I'm not much into ballet but this is so beautiful.

That's interesting, will watch it later today! And like I've said, I have the Delectus boxset ordered, but the shipment takes another week before it arrives. I should be able to share some information about the new remasters next friday. However, that's the expected delivery date, but it might take longer. It's bizarre.

That's interesting, will watch it later today! And like I've said, I have the Delectus boxset ordered, but the shipment takes another week before it arrives. I should be able to share some information about the new remasters next friday. However, that's the expected delivery date, but it might take longer. It's bizarre.

May I put in a request for the remastered "Memories of Green" and "Antarctica" in lossless?

I shall put in a request for the remaining ones if you can spare some extra bandwidth.

I am having all of them and some in remastered form (which I do not particularly like).

If all of the new remasters are following in the same vein as the previous ones then I am done buying all over again something I won't be listening.

Do use CueRipper when archiving the cd's. Test and copy will do. :)

Then I'll post the remastering I did a while ago and we shall make a blind test! ;)

Incidentally both "Antarctica" and "See You Later" were the first two I had a go at it. :)

I'll see what I can do in regards to uploading them all. I just remembered I never ended up uploading the Earth remaster. I'll compare that one with the one released on the disc. If they're the same I'll post the CD. But I'll keep you updated. And I've always used Foobar 2000 for ripping my CD's. Any downsides for not using that?

I'll see what I can do in regards to uploading them all. I just remembered I never ended up uploading the Earth remaster. I'll compare that one with the one released on the disc. If they're the same I'll post the CD. But I'll keep you updated.

Wise choice. :)


And I've always used Foobar 2000 for ripping my CD's. Any downsides for not using that?

Both CUERipper and Foobar2000 can do the job perfectly right.
If you want a 1 to 1 copy of what you are having then CUERipper is the way to go. WAV format as cdimage to retain every single digital detail of the psysical cd.

If you need some quick converted mp3 for your iPod then I would opt for Foobar2000 usually.

Think CUERipper as a spare clone of your original.
The included logs, cue and accurip files the needed bits to have it perfectly stored digitally bit by bit.

Foobar cannot do that at this time.
Perhaps in newer builds.

The instant beginning of this documentary contains (sadly a short) clip of never-seen-before of Vangelis playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MsyOe7xCqg

(video embedding doesn't work?)

I watched this when it was originally broadcast on the BBC! It all seemed so incredible then!

With Fertilization/Gestation still missing on the new release I was wondering if anyone ever uploaded this tracks in high quality on the internet?
There's one version in specific online that's also on YouTube, but the quality is very, very poor on that (old) rip. Truly wish it would've been released now, but alas.

I have the "expanded" bootleg in mp3 @ 256. I've never seen it in a higher quality. If that is any use to you, I'll post it.

So out of curiosity (and it only being �6,49) I've downloaded the remastered download release of Earth on Qobuz. It "suffers" (https://media.giphy.com/media/qs6ev2pm8g9dS/giphy.gif) from the same reverb that was added on the 2013 remasters. Now personally I didn't find that really distracting on most tracks except for Dervish D. And here I don't really mind it either too much. But it does make me wonder why they felt the need (and why Vangelis thought this was okay) to add this. Because it sounds really really good. Seems the tapes have been kept in great condition, so it's just not really worthwhile.

I've examined the RCA remasters that "suffer" from this. I've also read up on the original mastering process and from what I hear in the music and understand of the original mastering for vinyl process, no reverb has been added. It was originally filtered out for the master. Only the soft sounds seem to have more reverb, not the big sounds. It was apparently filtered out because of the mastering limitations of the day (Vangelis's electronic music was more than the typical system could handle so after making the studio master, the took a second pass using some filtering to make the release master. From all indications, Delectus, like the RCA remasters, has come from the original studio masters, not the vinyl release masters. This leads to a few differences in the odd track and more noticeable reverb in quite few of the tracks. But all indications are that it is how Vangelis originally intended the recording to sound in the studio and the version we have grown used to is the version filtered for the limitations of the equipment of the time. I notice that it is always the older albums that this happens on and the newer the album the less often it happens.

Well I would've agreed, but the 2006 remasters in Japan which I believe were also taken from the original magnetic tapes had non of the reverb at all. It was a ridiculously loud remaster and honestly it's a bad remaster, but it had non of the new edits. No reverb and non of the cuts either. And considering the strength of the reverb on some tracks, this being on the original magnetic tapes is highly doubtful. Filtering the reverb in the 70's seems to be pretty much impossible without negatively impacting the music, especially for example on Dervish D.

I can believe that the reverb is added onto the music because Vangelis, originally, wanted it there but the vinyl tech didn't allow for it. But I do not believe that the effect is on the original magnetic tapes and never heard before in the past fourty years and that they managed to filter the effects completely out as it is now.

I've examined the RCA remasters that "suffer" from this. I've also read up on the original mastering process and from what I hear in the music and understand of the original mastering for vinyl process, no reverb has been added. It was originally filtered out for the master. Only the soft sounds seem to have more reverb, not the big sounds. It was apparently filtered out because of the mastering limitations of the day (Vangelis's electronic music was more than the typical system could handle so after making the studio master, the took a second pass using some filtering to make the release master. From all indications, Delectus, like the RCA remasters, has come from the original studio masters, not the vinyl release masters. This leads to a few differences in the odd track and more noticeable reverb in quite few of the tracks. But all indications are that it is how Vangelis originally intended the recording to sound in the studio and the version we have grown used to is the version filtered for the limitations of the equipment of the time. I notice that it is always the older albums that this happens on and the newer the album the less often it happens.

You can slam a reverb on the master bus all right and up to the point of a cathedral if you wish it like that for vinyl release. Trust me on that. It was done countless times provided that you applied cut filters on the bottom end of the reverb effect to avoid muddying the whole track and get the needle in place.

If they mixed a separate master with reverb on it and they wish to use that now, that's all right. But I doubt that.
It is hardly possible to get a reverb filtered out TODAY. Not a chance in the 70's really.
Noise gates were a different beast that could be used to such extent at some point but they were never used for that purpose.

Problem with reverb is that everything does sound "fairy".
You will always have to find the sweet spot where it starts making elements of the mix too far.

Take "Earth" for example.
While the original master used for the cd pressing (same as for the vinyl most likely) is straight on your face, the remastered version has moved the listener back in the theater.

If that is what you wish for your music it is perfectly fine. I still stick to the original master.

There was a time in which I slammed the cdplayer in between analog compressor, eq and a couple of enhancers.
Most stuff wasn't playing better at all. Some was not playing good at all.
All Vangelis stuff prior 1990 was sounding way better with the right adjustments.
And that means that a proper remaster was needed.

But as far as I am concerned about mastering you should not change things too much.
Bringing out some character out of a dull mix is something.

Going cutting and pasting bits and slamming reverb on it is something different.

But Vangelis is entitled to his own vision of his music if he wishes so.

As a listener than I am entitled to what his vision is affecting every other prior vision I might have glimpsed of his music... with the due respect.

But let's wait for the boxset to be analysed and compared to what we already know.

mistake

So happy day! I received the box set earlier than I had anticipated!




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EARTH

Listening to Earth as I'm typing this and it seems like a legit brand new remaster. It's NOT based on the previous 2006 remaster which has quite a bit added reverb. It still sounded good, it was just too much on some tracks. The new master sounds really good. Overall it's mostly the same as the original releases but with a very, very subtle reverb added. It's a really pleasant addition actually to Earth. There are some weird edits however between some tracks I've noticed. Specifically it seems that they've cleaned some of the noise (it's inherent of the tape/recording) between some of the tracks. Now this isn't an issue, but it only applies to the last second of the tracks while the very next track has all the noise left in. So the noise drops very shortly for a second while the song fades out and than when the next track kicks in and the noise is back at the level it was at. It's nothing distracting at all, but I would've personally preferred it if they had just kept the noise between the tracks for a more consistent listening experience.

The guitar and the singing on 'Come On' seem to have been pushed back a bit while the drumming has been pushed forward a bit in the mix. I really like it in all honestly. There are a few drum beats and cymbals which I personally never heard in the previous mix and I'm not sure if they were always there and inaudible, or if they're actually added in. I don't mind them honestly, but I wonder if they were always there but just hidden in the mix and now brought forward. Two specific moments are very obvious, and I'm legit afraid to draw a conclusion. So I'll leave that up to you guys when I get around to uploading them.

Any bad points? Yes sadly there is one negative that I really do mind. Three very distinct clicks at the beginning of 'We Are All Uprooted' which directly follow after the thunder of 'Come On'. I've did a Spectral Frequency comparison and oddly enough they do match a very slight anomaly that the original CD release and even the 2006 remaster has. I guess that they possibly had that originally already fixed and just oversaw it this time because it was never a noticeable problem.


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L'APOCALYPSE DES ANIMAUX

And during the typing of all that I ended up rambling so much that I'm now listening to L'Apocalypse Des Animaux. A lot of added reverb! Not 'Dervish D.' unlistenable amounts, but enough to distract of the experience on the opening track. Not really that bad on the rest of the album however, though I would've liked a completely clean release.The rest sounds as it always has, rather noisy, but same as with Earth, the last few moments of the tracks have some noise removed during the fade out. I get that you can argue for both keeping and removing the noise on this album and that they settled for keeping it, because really half of it basically noise, but I've heard some fan cleaned releases which sound superb! Might as well just go for the original, though I must admit, that outside of possibly negatively affecting the album by cleaning the noise, there's not much that they could have done with this one.


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CHINA

As some might already know (or don't know), the original digital release of this album had a fluctuating volume throughout the entire album ever so slightly. Most probably never picked up on it, but it's most certainly there. This is completely gone! Other than the glitch there's very little to note about this album. Some reverb on two or three tracks, but most have been left as they always were. I don't have the most experience with this album, but I'd say it sounds better than it has ever done! Very little to add actually.


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OPERA SAUVAGE

My personal favorite Vangelis album and am most pleased to note that only one slight edit has been applied to the entire album. It's a bit louder (as you'd expect by 2017), but it never goes past the 0db and sounds absolutely terrific! The very high sounds perfect now and the overall mix just feels absolutely solid, it's a bit brighter and more solid I'd say. No added effects, no reverbs no nothing! The edit I mentioned is a small cut in 'Flamants Roses', around the 3.37 mark a few seconds of mostly silence has been removed. While the pure silence removal is just fine, the track does flow more naturally now going from the one section into the other (something I always felt was a bit weird and should've been two tracks anyway), it is unfortunate that two notes edited out as well as a consequence of the track flowing more naturally now.


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SEE YOU LATER

If there's one album you don't need to ask my opinion about it's this one. I have it on vinyl, which I love and used to spin on very seldom occasion. However what I've heard some of it on CD, and remember it as a bit of a mixed bag. But I can't be absolutely honest because like I said, I only have it on vinyl. The good news is that this album sounds absolutely terrific in the new remaster. The disappointing news is that the reverb comes and goes with the track. 'Memories of Green' seems to be the only track on the album that doesn't have added reverb. The rest has added reverb ranging from being subtle, to outright destroying a track. It's really distracting on 'Multi-Track Suggestion' and utterly destroys 'Not a Bit - All of It'. There are a couple of beeps throughout the track, that just do not work with the reverb. The whole beep sound needs to be a very solid beep, it really destroys when it lasts longer then it should. Also the "Obviously" at the end of the track is removed, which is kind of the punchline of the whole track. It does sound better overall in terms of transfer, which is a given considering the new scanning technology, but it's a shame that the album suffers quite a bit under the new reverb.

Also I have to mention that the inclusion of: Neighbours Above, My Love and Domestic Love 1 are absolutely terrific! They unfortunately also have some reverb added, but hearing them finally digitally straight from the source instead of a terrible and compressed rip is wonderful!

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CHARIOTS OF FIRE

Remember the 2006 remaster of the album that was pretty much perfect? Yup here's another that that's pretty much like that. Perfect.


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ANTARTICA

Another personal favorite of mine and unfortunately, it's not without it's flaws. There's one change made to the album, and that's an edited fade-out in 'Life of Antartica'. There's a reprise of the opening track at the end of the track, however the fade out doesn't completely fade out. There's a short while where the album still plays the music, but it's barely audible. So this is now changed a bit with the near completely silence edited out and the actual fade out actually completely fading out. A small edit that doesn't affect anything negatively.

However I did notice unfortunately a couple of very minor audio drops in 'Theme of Antartica' and in another one. This was never an issue before, so I don't know what caused this. But it's a shame that this passed inspection, though I doubt that Vangelis did give his seal of approval on this actual disc. I wonder if these drops are also on the digital releases of these new remasters. Could potentially be a pressing error.


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SOIL FESTIVITIES

Another almost perfect remaster! It sounds a bit fuller and more well balanced, specifically the somewhat pitchy highs across the album are now perfectly equalized. One edit has taken place however, the ending of 'Movement One' is cut way short. Originally it had over a minute and a half of ambient rain/thunder noise. This has been shorted by just under a minute.


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MASK

Another remaster that's nearly perfect. Unfortunately I noticed two very minor drops in 'Movement One' one minute and five/eight seconds in. These two are the only audio drops I've noticed. And same goes for Antartica, it's a perfect remaster outside of this very minute issue, and could potentially just be a pressing error. A digital copy is needed for a comparison.


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JON AND VANGELIS

The actual transfers are absolutely excellent as is the sound quality. However unfortunately the reverb comes and go's between the tracks with the absolute worst (and in personal opinion only true offender) being 'And When the Night Comes' where the reverb utterly destroys it. Most of the tracks have it very subtly and sound terrific! The Friends of Mr. Cairo is gorgeous!


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So all I have left are the three Jon and Vangelis albums. In case anyone wonders what the DR values of the albums are. I've added them to the Dynamic Range Database (http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=vangelis&album=).

Thank you for your well written review, shadyelg. It is greatly appreciated.

So, this is mostly yet another revisioned version of the albums...


...the demand for a careful and authentic digital remaster of the original album has yet to be met.

... and I did buy that for the booklet photos and a couple of cd's out of the whole package as a matter of fact.

I guess some reverse engineering on the audio to fix the glitches pointed out in shadyelg's review above might be appreciated around here.
A good and exhaustive one by the way! ;)

To sum it up only four bonus tracks are included in the box:

Previously unreleased:
"Neighbours Above" – 2015 Remastered version – Bonus track on See You Later

These were released on singles and have never appeared on CD before:
"My Love" and "Domestic Logic 1" – Bonus track on See You Later
"Song Is" (Jon & Vangelis) – Bonus track on Private Collection

So we are still missing the EastWest Recordings?

Out sometime in 2019?


“I always welcome remastering my old work, for two basic reasons. Firstly, I get the opportunity to bring the sounds to today’s standards. Secondly, it gives me the chance to go through the experiences and memories of the time.

The audio drops in Antartica and Mask should be an easy fix, shouldn't take more than a few minutes at most. Guess I can try my hand at it and see if I can fix the problems in the tracks.
I'd say that: Opera Sauvage, Chariots of Fire, Mask, Antartica and Invisible Connections are pretty much perfect in terms of a authentic remaster that fix a few (unimportant) flaws and digital remaster (with the two/three drops fixed in Mask/Antartica).

The rest is entirely up to yourself if you're fine with the new reverb. For me personally I'd even add Soil Festivities to the list in terms of authenticity and quality, but the removal of ambient rain at the end of Movement 1 is unforgivable (though once again, very easily fixed by editing the original bit back in).

Edit: and before I forget the book is great and could provide some amazing new high resolution cover scans!

...and before I forget the book is great and could provide some amazing new high resolution cover scans!

That's reason number one that got me into buying it!

Frankly, only the proper transfer of "China" included here was worth having. The original transfer used for the cd had really serious issues.

I appreciated also the Jon & Vangelis' "Private Collection" remaster. Perhaps because I used to listen to the album a lot a lot and I still enjoy it.

Let's see if we can restore back the hiss and add the few missing bits. :)

Thanks for all the insight. <3

Would be awesome if you could upload the package as is, along with pointing out where exactly the drop-outs are. :)

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/Box%20-%20Front_zps06stz07d.jpg.html)

VANGELIS - DELECTUS - The Polydor & Vertigo Releases 1973-85 (13 CD, mp3 @320kps)


Earth - 1973
L'Apocalypse de Animaux - 1973
China - 1979
Opera Sauvage - 1979
See You Later - 1980
Chariots of Fire - 1981
Antarctica - 1983
Soil Festivities - 1984
Mask - 1985
Invisible Connections - 1985
Short Stories (Jon & Vangelis) - 1979
The Friends of Mr Cairo (Jon & Vangelis) -1981
Private Collection (Jon & Vangelis) - 1983

all tracklists are as original releases except "See You Later", which has bonus tracks "Neighbours Above", "My Love" & "Domestic Logic 1" & "Private Collection" which has the bonus track "Song Is..."

https://mega.nz/#!3x1TjBwI!ZruSc5JtCnvfE60KpJ3MbM4Yr4vmXo6bUD3k92asKIo
https://mega.nz/#!LwcGjYwT!b3I51TNKeZq8MI-mZO1V_Hkz2M8lRhMZBocPbFJd8aI

Thanks.

Thank you.

Thank you Atget. I am still going to purchase it to support Vangelis but i will consider this a good preview ;)

Vangelis composed Ballet: Frankenstein - The Modern Prometheus

Here's the original file I have which I made into youtube video before:

https://ufile.io/3bcc2

VANGELIS - DELECTUS - The Polydor & Vertigo Releases 1973-85 (13 CD, mp3 @320kps)

Earth - 1973
L'Apocalypse de Animaux - 1973
China - 1979
Opera Sauvage - 1979
See You Later - 1980
Chariots of Fire - 1981
Antarctica - 1983
Soil Festivities - 1984
Mask - 1985
Invisible Connections - 1985
Short Stories (Jon & Vangelis) - 1979
The Friends of Mr Cairo (Jon & Vangelis) -1981
Private Collection (Jon & Vangelis) - 1983

Thanks for the prompt preview! ;)


...I am still going to purchase it to support Vangelis but I will consider this a good preview ;)

... and that is the aim of the post as a matter of fact. :)


Vangelis composed Ballet: Frankenstein - The Modern Prometheus

Here's the original file I have which I made into YouTube video before...

That's the spirit! ;)

Thanks! :)

Very nice, many thanks for a splendid share.

It is from a digital source, so hopefully DC can compare the drop outs on both versions.

Thanks very much

I've just checked the digital version, unfortunately those also have the audio drops :(

I'll be very frank, and say that everyone, and I mean everyone involved in this release, should be ashamed that this is available to buy for hard earned money. It is the worst "remastering" I have ever heard.

You must not have heard many remasters in that case. This is some of the best stuff that's out there in that regards believe it or not.

It is from a digital source, so hopefully DC can compare the drop outs on both versions.

I'm waiting an extra week to get some more accurate-rip results so to be extra sure about the missing bits and drop outs.
If we can hear them and the accurate-rip database has stored the same crc values for every other rip uploaded then we're doomed as usual when talking about Vangelis remastering his own material.

It might be a major defective pressing on a batch of cd's.

Remember the Chariots Of Fire blurays?

They got replaced when they realized there was a digital error in the master used for the replication... though I am inclined to think that those are hard-coded into the digital master for reason beyond every common sense...

I understand that it might not be easy to listen back to a 13 cd whopper... but at least you should get some extra proof listening's before releasing anything.

I’ve recently received Delectus. Can anybody give advice of any windows synth plugin that will get at least near to that wonderful electric piano sound on the album opera sauvage, track two, Rêve ? The sound of that track never ceases to amaze me and now the remastered version is floating out of my speakers! All his electric piano sounds on other albums too are just something else. Thanks.

Can anybody give advice of any windows synth plugin that will get at least near to that wonderful electric piano sound on the album opera sauvage, track two, Rêve?

There is nothing like a substitute for a Fender Rhodes electric piano on VSTi planet.

MrRay73 & MrRay22 are quite convincing. Lounge Lizard was good as well.

The sampled version are less usable though they do sound better. The sound is fixed as with every other sampled instruments and the interaction with every other aspect of the notes blending in each other is partially missing.
But they do sound stand out better in a mix if the arrangement is not too demanding in terms of dynamic or the sound is not too present in the mix.

I found more challenging tweaking a Lounge Lizard synthesis based chord with the right setting of compressor to make it more funky with quite nice results than using the various Sample Tank/ Kontakt/Halion sample based versions for example.
We even tried to re-mic the rendered vsti part once. It did sound more punchy than keeping it only in the digital domain.

But then it is up to what you are aiming to with your arrangements.

Try them both and see which sound best on what you are playing. A blend of both worlds should give you quite a good approximation of the real deal.

But if you want a solo part played with that type of sound... well... I'd stick with the original hardware! ;)

Aw thank you. I will look into that immediately. I remember being interesting in his electric piano sounds quite a lot and still am. They always sound amazing. I've got session keys which is interesting but I was looking for something more specific apart from going out and buying the original instruments. Thank you again :)

I can't get MrRay73 & MrRay22 to load with studio one at all, throwing up lots of errors when I copy the dll's to the vst plugin folder using studio one and windows 10 64 bit but thank you again, will find a way around that, heard the demo's of MrRay73 & MrRay22 and they sound fantastic ! :)

I suppose it is not unusual to have found Vangelis through Chariots of Fire. I had the vinyl single and LP. When I got a CD player, that was the first album I looked for, but I couldn't find it. Instead, I found Mask and Direct. It was several years before I located Chariots of Fire and by then I was hooked on all his music. But at the time, most of his albums weren't available in the US. Luckily I had a CD store that dealt in imports. So I bought everything I could find. Also being interested in the artwork, I have since acquired some of the older albums on vinyl. I have every legal release and some that aren't so legal (Dragon and Hypothesis to name a couple). Consequently, I have a large library of Vangelis's music. The latest addition is Delectus. Now, having this large collection, some tracks have been released multiple times. Some compilations have obviously been taken from the LP master tapes, but others show noticeable differences from the original album release. When I listen to this progression of releases of these tracks, it becomes clear what sort of release we have with Delectus. When you factor in the documented history of how the original album masters tapes were created everything falls into place.

During Vangelis's years in Nemo Studio, he recorded far more than we have ever heard. Due to the volume, he typically set the tape speed to a slower setting. That increased the tape hiss, but doubled his recording capacity. As a result, noise reduction was very important to the mixing stage. Most of the recordings we are familiar with have multiple tracks that build on each other. When Vangelis was satisfied with a piece it was copied to a master tape. The familiar tracks that made it to albums and singles went through a second mixing stage to limit the music to the range that would sound best on the final vinyl. When RCA or Polydor wanted to create a remaster or compilation, they went to these vinyl masters. When Vangelis himself wanted to create a new album, such as Themes, he went back to his master recordings. Now, he has gone back to remaster all but 2 of his 70's and 80's albums.

I noticed immediately that the albums sounded very different (this applies to the 2013 remasters as well). The older they are, the more they had changed. For one thing, they are louder. For another, the tape hiss is far softer, but there on every recording I checked. But the biggest difference is the scope of the sound. The old recordings sound very flat. The remastered versions sound far more like his newer recordings. Some have claimed added reverb. I disagree. I checked various tracks where that was reported and listened to the more delicate sounds. I listened to the original recordings as well and even though the effects are diminished, they are still there. There are no extra echos or repeated sounds that were not there originally. When I compare the versions that came out on compilation albums I found something very interesting. Not only do they match closer to the remsters, but you can hear a progression. Several tracks appeared on multiple compilations or albums. These show a gradual improvement in transfer technology with these same sounds labeled modern reverb existing on Themes, Portraits, Odyssey, and The Collection versions. This "modern reverb" is less noticable in the older compilation recordings. Yet there are a few tracks where this supposed "modern reverb" was there on the original recording, such as Memories of Green - a more quiet track that has seen four very different versions released. It is the same effect supposedly newly applied to some tracks. Yet the tape hiss on all the tracks disproves that any major effect has been added (since it would distort the tape hiss as well as other sounds). The different level of tape hiss from the original recordings to the new remasters confirms that the reports of each album being specifically remixed for vinyl release is accurate and shows that a wide band of sound was filtered out. This accounts for the sounds that appear to be added. It also accounts for the sections that seem to be missing as they likely were not in the master recording but edited in for the vinyl release.

I doubt we will see any remasters of his later work as even as early as Direct, it is nearly impossible to hear the difference between the original and the remaster. This is a much finer effort than some remasters I've encountered. The mixes have not been touched to speak of. The effects that travel across the stereo field in the original are unchanged. But the music feels bigger.

My verdict of Delectus is that it brings his old work up to the standard of his later work and shows us the tracks as he original intended us to hear them but couldn't because the technology of the day was not up to the task. Both the original and the remasters have their advantages and many will prefer one over the other. For the albums that aren't missing anything, I prefer the new remasters. And even for the albums that are, I think the remasters are superior in most respects.

The exception is Chariots of Fire which was remastered in 2006 and has not been redone. It is nice to have it included for those who didn't have it, but for those of us who did, it is just a duplicate disc.

Hello dadadacicici. I've just got hold got lounge lizard. It sounds so good I nearly spilled my beer :) Thank you so much. I should have asked you directly in the first place. Thank you again :)

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I agree, private collection is one of my all time favourites. I even remember when some of the songs were in the charts when they were originally released in the uk. It's a great album, fantastic melodies, he is sailing (that rhythm !). The track horizon is just something else. That ominous bass line later transforming into complete heavenly beauty. The piano composition... It's a wow. Still brings me goosebumps to this day :)

I suppose it is not unusual to have found Vangelis through Chariots of Fire. I had the vinyl single and LP. When I got a CD player, that was the first album I looked for, but I couldn't find it. Instead, I found Mask and Direct. It was several years before I located Chariots of Fire and by then I was hooked on all his music. But at the time, most of his albums weren't available in the US. Luckily I had a CD store that dealt in imports. So I bought everything I could find. Also being interested in the artwork, I have since acquired some of the older albums on vinyl. I have every legal release and some that aren't so legal (Dragon and Hypothesis to name a couple). Consequently, I have a large library of Vangelis's music. The latest addition is Delectus. Now, having this large collection, some tracks have been released multiple times. Some compilations have obviously been taken from the LP master tapes, but others show noticeable differences from the original album release. When I listen to this progression of releases of these tracks, it becomes clear what sort of release we have with Delectus. When you factor in the documented history of how the original album masters tapes were created everything falls into place.

During Vangelis's years in Nemo Studio, he recorded far more than we have ever heard. Due to the volume, he typically set the tape speed to a slower setting. That increased the tape hiss, but doubled his recording capacity. As a result, noise reduction was very important to the mixing stage. Most of the recordings we are familiar with have multiple tracks that build on each other. When Vangelis was satisfied with a piece it was copied to a master tape. The familiar tracks that made it to albums and singles went through a second mixing stage to limit the music to the range that would sound best on the final vinyl. When RCA or Polydor wanted to create a remaster or compilation, they went to these vinyl masters. When Vangelis himself wanted to create a new album, such as Themes, he went back to his master recordings. Now, he has gone back to remaster all but 2 of his 70's and 80's albums.

I noticed immediately that the albums sounded very different (this applies to the 2013 remasters as well). The older they are, the more they had changed. For one thing, they are louder. For another, the tape hiss is far softer, but there on every recording I checked. But the biggest difference is the scope of the sound. The old recordings sound very flat. The remastered versions sound far more like his newer recordings. Some have claimed added reverb. I disagree. I checked various tracks where that was reported and listened to the more delicate sounds. I listened to the original recordings as well and even though the effects are diminished, they are still there. There are no extra echos or repeated sounds that were not there originally. When I compare the versions that came out on compilation albums I found something very interesting. Not only do they match closer to the remasters, but you can hear a progression. Several tracks appeared on multiple compilations or albums. These show a gradual improvement in transfer technology with these same sounds labeled modern reverb existing on Themes, Portraits, Odyssey, and The Collection versions. This "modern reverb" is less noticeable in the older compilation recordings. Yet there are a few tracks where this supposed "modern reverb" was there on the original recording, such as Memories of Green - a more quiet track that has seen four very different versions released. It is the same effect supposedly newly applied to some tracks. Yet the tape hiss on all the tracks disproves that any major effect has been added (since it would distort the tape hiss as well as other sounds). The different level of tape hiss from the original recordings to the new remasters confirms that the reports of each album being specifically remixed for vinyl release is accurate and shows that a wide band of sound was filtered out. This accounts for the sounds that appear to be added. It also accounts for the sections that seem to be missing as they likely were not in the master recording but edited in for the vinyl release.

I doubt we will see any remasters of his later work as even as early as Direct, it is nearly impossible to hear the difference between the original and the remaster. This is a much finer effort than some remasters I've encountered. The mixes have not been touched to speak of. The effects that travel across the stereo field in the original are unchanged. But the music feels bigger.

My verdict of Delectus is that it brings his old work up to the standard of his later work and shows us the tracks as he original intended us to hear them but couldn't because the technology of the day was not up to the task. Both the original and the remasters have their advantages and many will prefer one over the other. For the albums that aren't missing anything, I prefer the new remasters. And even for the albums that are, I think the remasters are superior in most respects.

The exception is Chariots of Fire which was remastered in 2006 and has not been redone. It is nice to have it included for those who didn't have it, but for those of us who did, it is just a duplicate disc.

I am going to disagree on a couple of points.
Reverb added being one.

He did add reverb on the RCA remasters. And that was not there in the first place.
Earth as remastered for the Esoteric sessions did get into something else completely.
Earth as remastered for the the Delectus boxset is as good as it was.

On Delectus it was a different matter though.
I cannot be sure if we are only hearing better what was in the master or on a very subtle level some reverb was added.

You might add reverb when needed to fix a not so good mixdown or to better glue everything into the mix (as a very last resort really). If Vangelis and Philip Colonna did it won't be much of a novelty.

The noise reduction you are mentioning does have a wide-band gating side-effect that might shorten a reverb tail, but it is not going to cut anything out of the full range of the signal anyway.

A better transfer from the original master means that you will be hearing details that were there in the first place but got buried down the various analog stages of the media they were intended for.
Vinyl as you pointed out.
But on the full amplitude of the material if you can hear it, it is there. If you cannot hear it, it was not there.

I might have got so used on those vinyl sounds that a change for the better might put me down a bit perhaps. It did on Delectus. But I do appreciate the work done on the masters.
I have always used a well tended Shure needle that costed a whole wage at the time and I could hear plenty of detail with that.
A more dynamic sound compared to the duller cd versions. Heaven And Hell might be an example.

Adding reverb, if they did so for Delectus, would NOT distort the tape hiss as well as other sounds. It will simply soften the hiss.
Enhancers and valve preamps might do that though. And also a large number of digital effects mainly developed to add warm to a sterile digital recording than intended for restoration of something already warmed up in the analog domain.
The Japanese remasters are an example.

But here you have a transfer of the first generation master. You can do pretty much of everything if you need to.

All in all I am fine with the remasters in Delectus.

In time they will be appreciated for what they are meant to be.
Vangelis' final cut of his music updated for the years to come.


...private collection is one of my all time favourites. I even remember when some of the songs were in the charts when they were originally released in the uk. It's a great album, fantastic melodies, he is sailing (that rhythm !). The track horizon is just something else. That ominous bass line later transforming into complete heavenly beauty. The piano composition... It's a wow. Still brings me goosebumps to this day :)

Not to mention that "Horizon" somehow did have "Tears In Rain a.k.a. Fading Away" incorporated as part of the progression of the arrangement! ;)

That doesn't answer my observations that what is being called added reverb is there on several compilations releases of these tracks and that it more fits the filtering of the original vinyl master tapes and a gradual improvement in the sound coming from the master tapes. If there was no need to filter the tracks to sound good on the original vinyl releases, why do I keep finding references to that process. They had to filter something out and it makes sense when you listen to the body of work that this is an original effect that he uses on nearly every track. He still uses it. The tracks that are cited as having tend to be the more bold ones while the ones that are closer to these masters are the ones that are more mellow. Just compare Dervish D and The Tao of Love to Memories of Green. All have reverb. In the original versions of Dervish D and The Tao of Love, you can hear it if you listen closely, but the softer effects are missing. When you compare them, the effects are identical but the new remasters have more sound that is inaudible on the original. Adding reverb now would affect all levels of sound and the effects would not remain the same. Instead they are identical but there is an entire layer of softer sounds that is missing. That is consistent with a filtering process to reduce the dynamic range and the added tape hiss of a second generation tape. Memories of Green has the exact same type of reverb (much more than you find a your normal piano and definitely an added effect) in all the releases. And The Tao of Love, listed as one that has reverb added is virtually identical to the version released in 1989 on the Themes album - reverb and all. It is less believable given the known sequence of events surrounding the creation of the original release masters (filtered so Vangelis was satisfied with how they would sound on the final vinyl release) that reverb has been added every time these tracks have be reissued than that the reverb is original. Everything I can hear says that the reverb is original but much of it was filtered out on some tracks. I can't detect any distortion to the original sounds in the new remasters - just lots of additional sound and scope that a proper remastering of the original master tape has yielded. If it was something added for this release, then it wouldn't sound the same as the tracks on Themes did in 1989 or the subsequent other compilations that came from Vangelis himself (all the career spanning ones with additional music - Portraits, Odyssey, and The Collection).

No, I can't agree with the idea that modern reverb was added because I see too much evidence that it was there and filtered out rather than it was added. Vangelis is too consistent in his sound and all these remastered tracks just sound right and leave the original releases sounding flat.

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Also, I found this video on YouTube the has a simple track that they add reverb to in various ways. From watching this I am even more certain that what we are hearing on the Delectus releases is original rather than added.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7i0Y6w5VD0

I tend to agree with robin-jan. Although I haven't carried out the same listening experiments, I have always thought that the idea of adding blanket reverb to an already fully produced album is something experienced sound engineers would just not do. This would result in a very muddy blurring of the whole album, especially affecting the lower frequencies. Also, there has been a lot of talk about 'modern reverb' but there is no such thing! There have been many ways of adding reverberation throughout the history of sound engineering, but it has been mentioned often in various sources that Vangelis used Lexicon reverbs, the very best you could use at the time of recording and still very highly thought of, still used today in their software form. Obviously people are hearing a difference, but in my opinion this is much more likely to be down to better remastering of the original tapes rather than adding reverb. Perhaps this whole idea of 'added modern reverb' comes from a misunderstanding of what Vangelis has said in interviews - that he has been able to update the masters to a more detailed sound - maybe confusing the restoration of frequencies originally filtered out for vinyl with the addition of 'new' reverb. Again, it makes far more sound engineering sense to carry out this restoration and improve the quality of the original, rather than add some sort of more 'modern' reverb as any added reverb (old or new) would actually take the master further away from the original and introduce distortion.

We cannot possibly answer what only Vangelis, Frederick Rousseau and Philippe Colonna might answer.
Though that I'd really like. :)

To date only Raine Shine gave us an insight of what was happening at Nemo Studios. I trust you read that.

But to clear up some points: you do not filter out reverb to cut a vinyl.
You apply a cut on the lower end and upper end of the spectrum to preserve more headroom for the material otherwise the needle is going to jump. Mastering stage. Period.
If it advisable to do that in the mixing stage otherwise the mastering stage will have to filter that out. Read lowering down the volume of the lower spectrum for a start. Not eliminating it, or as you call it "filtering out the reverb".
Applying the same method in the mastering process you can also decide to add reverb only to a portion of the audio spectrum leaving untouched the rest not to make it so evident as in the bits you are wanting to stand out... or fall back.
You just need to be a skilled engineer with a really good reverb unit on your rack.

Also you cut the master slightly in mono for vinyl, especially on the bottom end.
What happens when you open up what you had to keep as mono as possible?
You will here more detail into the material.
Read: you are going to hear more of the reverb if it was there.
More details on the mid frequencies and more air on that part of the spectrum that usually gets filtered out when cutting a laquer. Period.
And the more detail you hear more reverb you are going to perceive if it was in the original master.

I hope you are following me in this being a bit more technical. I am basically adding to your observations.
You had it not got wrong though. I hope I am not giving that impression.

Having said that you can release a record recorded in a cathedral.
It is not going to be filtered out in the vinyl release. No matter what.
If it is there it is going to stay where it was recorded.
If you want to hear a timpani hit as you heard it in the cathedral forget the vinyl release and get the cd version.

I do agree on the differences you are observing in the original album versions and the compilation versions.
It might even be that a subtle plate reverb was added to revive the tails chopped off by the noise gates and we will never know because what a mastering engineer does might not be of any concern to us.
Which is quite likely.

Phil Collins's "Face Value" is an example of how a reverb can be put into use. Vangelis is another example.

If you want to test if the reverb was there you only need to open up the stereo panorama with a stereo imaging plug in.
If it is there buried in the mix it will come out.
That was called remastering for a cd release when the only master you were left was the vinyl master.
And you will likely use a mastering reverb designed to be more transparent on the material.
For example to give the same feeling to material recorded at different stages of your career. To wash over some differences for example.

I've worked on several vinyls and do trust me when I write that the original master has to undergo to radical changes in order to fit the vinyl medium.
The original mixdown is different.
Then in the mastering you decide what you want to make out of your music.

If I was picky on how the vinyl was sounding and made the necessary changes to accommodate the artist complaints about what he was missing compared to what we did record and mix I can only imagine a perfectionist as Vangelis might have gone through to fix his vision of the music he was releasing.

What you call filtering out is a different thing that does not apply to vinyl release.
You compromise in order to fit the music on a piece of plastic. Only that.
You do mix differently according to the medium sometimes.
Plate reverb might be added if you wish so.
That what most people seem to believe regarding Delectus.

Again I'd like to hear from Vangelis, Frederick Rousseau and Philippe Colonna if possible.

I only undergo that line of testing on Earth because I wanted to know why the original was sounding better to me.

I am happy with the magician trick to be too curious about how he did it the second time I saw the magician show.

But as far Vangelis' remasterings I only kept the originals. But now I am having quite a nice contender at least. :)

I followed your suggestion and expanded the stereo field on Dervish D and heard a lot of things I'd never noticed before. It doesn't fully explain the differences, but it does indicate that tightening the stereo field was likely part of their process. I also feel like a lot of the reverb is pushed down in volume in the original release and gets lost in the louder tape hiss of the original album master. That was one of the things I meant by filter. It also seems to have a different equalization. I have yet to read what all they might have done to make the finished product acceptable to Vangelis, but it is clear that different tracks had different needs and I think that leads to some of assumption that reverb has been added. To me it seems like a cleaner mix. Like going from radio to CD on a lot of 80's tunes where I could never understand the lyrics originally but the digital version is crisp and clear and I wonder how I could ever not understand them.

I'm tempted to actually compare the Delectus tracks to some of the vinyl I have.

I followed your suggestion and expanded the stereo field on Dervish D and heard a lot of things I'd never noticed before. It doesn't fully explain the differences, but it does indicate that tightening the stereo field was likely part of their process. I also feel like a lot of the reverb is pushed down in volume in the original release and gets lost in the louder tape hiss of the original album master. That was one of the things I meant by filter. It also seems to have a different equalization. I have yet to read what all they might have done to make the finished product acceptable to Vangelis, but it is clear that different tracks had different needs and I think that leads to some of assumption that reverb has been added. To me it seems like a cleaner mix. Like going from radio to CD on a lot of 80's tunes where I could never understand the lyrics originally but the digital version is crisp and clear and I wonder how I could ever not understand them.

I'm tempted to actually compare the Delectus tracks to some of the vinyl I have.

80's music was typically recorded and cut for vinyl and cassettes where you had an eq curve referred as emphasis and dolby.
Basically the upper spectrum got lowered down by the RIIA pre (by the record player behavior) and the dolby NR (on cassettes) to tame the hiss.

What happens is that those frequencies are all there in the vinyl or cassette master. The masters used for the original Vangelis cd pressings.
Once gone digital where those limitations do not apply to cd players you are going to hear them because of the better design of the DAC (you might need a very good one to compare with any RIIA preamp of course).

You usually add more air on top because of the limitations of the RIIA preamp and since that air will go through the eq emphasis curve you get plus one minus one so to restore the original master eq.
Vangelis is no exception up to when he started using the new digital technologies.

His masters are the first generation mix-down and if in good shape you can squeeze every possible detail from that.

He did on Delectus and on Themes and Odyssey for example. But time has really passed from Themes and Odyssey so better technology means better everything.

Vangelis vinyl in their original pressing did sound way better than their cd reissues.
With a decent sound-card, a good tonearm and a perfect stylus you will be amazed how the music is more lively.
But having a mint copy of older material is quite hard to find.
We've been listening to them countless times and by now they might have lost all they were meant to have I'm afraid.

That's why the cd has prospered. Vinyl nostalgia is a different beast. Hard to get rid of. :)
A digital transfer is a 1 to 1 copy of the original. And it is in digital you will going to appreciate the details of the original.
Not in the analog version of a digital transfer released on vinyl.

Vangelis later cd releases do sound better than their vinyl counterpart for example.

Themes compilation might be a good starting point for the comparisons. The cd version does sound squared because of the limitations of of converters of the time. The japanese reissue did sound better for example. But that was because of a better mastering.

Oh... on using stereo imaging type of plugins you will notice an increase of details that were buried in the original cd reissues of the original vinyls in shifting the lower and upper mid frequencies. But not too much otherwise the bass parts are going to fall apart! You might need to adjust the crossover cut points a bit though, because it is there that you mess to fit the master for vinyl release. ;)

Only one complaint. And we've got to make our complaints haven't we :) I Hear You Now on Delectus is not right at all. What's with the reverb on it. That great dry sounding arpeggio throughout the track was perfectly fine as it was, dry sounding. It sort of made the song. Now it's wet with a strange reverb. Actually that reverb sounds amateurish.

The whole audio package is dreadful, so there is no need to highlight individual tracks.

That's why I am not replacing the originals... no matter what...

The whole audio package is dreadful, so there is no need to highlight individual tracks.

Yes I understand what you mean. The whole package is not all that bad though. If I took that logic a few steps further that'd mean it's pointless commenting on here at all.

I find it mostly a hit or miss, some perfect remasters some not so perfect remasters. Bit of a shame really.

I find it mostly a hit or miss, some perfect remasters some not so perfect remasters. Bit of a shame really.

Yes it is a shame. The shame is the unreleased music that has never been released. That's the entire point of this forum isn't it. We want his unreleased music released.

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And another thing. Vangelis talks crap when it comes to record companies. Think about it. Sorry in a bad mood :(

Only one complaint. And we've got to make our complaints haven't we :) I Hear You Now on Delectus is not right at all. What's with the reverb on it. That great dry sounding arpeggio throughout the track was perfectly fine as it was, dry sounding. It sort of made the song. Now it's wet with a strange reverb. Actually that reverb sounds amateurish.
I checked and the versions on Portraits and The Collection sound much like Delectus. I suspect that if you particularly like the sound as it was in the vinyl master that you won't like this.

That's why I am not replacing the originals... no matter what...

I'm not replacing anything. It just gives me more options. Some tracks have been edited and like the similar edits to Blade Runner (the film), sometimes you might be in the mood for one version and sometimes the other.

Yes it is a shame. The shame is the unreleased music that has never been released. That's the entire point of this forum isn't it. We want his unreleased music released..

As much as this is indeed what I personally want, if he feels it's not worth it I do understand that. But yes, I would've really loved:

Earth - Friends, The River, Sunday in Central Park, The Witches Are Out, Passer By (were 'announced' but never released or heard)
L'Apocalypse Des Animaux - Anything new would've been nice
China - The Long March Part II
See You Later - Fertilization (though I understand why this one is missing)
Antartica - Anything new would've been nice

Jon and Vangelis - And When the Night Comes single alternate mix, leaked demos

That's about it I guess.

I'd have liked to seen "Grece" included on Opera Sauvage, and I agree about the single mix of "And When The Night Comes". I preferred it to the album version.

When you go back to the beginning, there is a lot that has never been released. Some have never seen an official digital release. The Fornmix has finally seen an offical release. Aphrodite's Child has had many releases. Vangelis's first single, other random singles, Sex Power, The Dragon, Hypothesis, Amore. The Long March Part II being released would require that the track divisions on China get fixed (Chung Kuo should be about 1:45 and The Long March should be 5:50) otherwise it doesn't make much sense. He should have released Fertilization. There really was no reason to leave it off. Then there is the huge body of work that existed only on film (and some of it isn't even available in that format any longer). From this period it would include most of the Rossif films as well as a few others. There is a lot from Chariots of Fire and Blade Runner that remain unheard outside the film. The Bounty has never seen a proper soundtrack. I have never heard of the extra track called Grece for Opera Sauvage. Do you have a source for it? Is there even a low quality version of it floating around?

The other thing you have to wonder is how much of this work still exists in Vangelis's archive. We would hope all of it, but I have suspicions that some does not. Plus there is all the music that he never put on an album at all and remains unheard and unknown.

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/Back_zpsqq8htmkr.jpg.html)

https://mega.nz/#!W9EQjLCI!bW4xmk0ZGYv-XJOEr1yduUeV5-4UYK3EhC92adKNCOE

Track 19.

If we think about it. "The Vangelis unofficial official bootleg thread." Who's going to take this seriously.

I'd have liked to seen "Grece" included on Opera Sauvage, and I agree about the single mix of "And When The Night Comes". I preferred it to the album version.

I still haven't heard the single edit unfortunately. Would love to hear it, because I absolutely love the track!


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A lot of the music is outside of his own hands unfortunately. And while I do think all the original magnetic tapes are still somewhere, it's possible that they're lost over the course of time with bad archival and usage. I truly hope that some day a lot of this is still released. But it's not all up to Vangelis himself unfortunately. And about 'Fertilization', apparently the exact text used in the track was from a book of some writer who didn't give permission for the track to be released. I have no idea how much of this is true, but it'll explain why this might never be released officially.


If we think about it. "The Vangelis unofficial official bootleg thread." Who's going to take this seriously.

While true that the title and last few pages don't really match up. It's the first remaster of a lot of his material which everyone is also interested in.

The other thing you have to wonder is how much of this work still exists in Vangelis's archive. We would hope all of it, but I have suspicions that some does not. Plus there is all the music that he never put on an album at all and remains unheard and unknown.[/QUOTE]

Maybe we will only hear this music after his death. He seems to date women a lot younger than himself so maybe upon his death she will forward those tapes to the record companies. Gosh am I talking shite but I think this will happen to an extent.

Flamants Roses Single Version :) https://mega.nz/#!48wnSQiI!COOBRUA4GC37T61Z7gm-edoi2e7Sf48LPRFf54vhXZc

There was a single version of Flamants Roses? Or did you edit it yourself?

I came across this "track list" for "Opera Sauvage" whilst researching the Flamants Roses single edit:

01 – L’oiseau couleur du temps.
02 – Le chemin vers la mer.
03 – La passion du souvenir.
04 – Le temps de dieu.
05 – Par tous les vents.
06 – Ces chants qui viennent de la mer?.
07 – L’oeil du condor.
08 – Hier et demain, la Gr�ce.
09 – Rajahstan, tout est amour.
10 – Une musique venue de la mer?.
11 – Le r�ve celtique, Irlande.
12 – Voyage � Java.
13 – L’espace et le souvenir.
14 – Un rythme absolu.
15 – Voyage au C�l�bes.
16 – Le coeur musicien.
17 – Une musique qui vient de Bali.
18 – Singapour cette ville qui vient de la mer.
19 – Au d�but ce fut la musique.
20 – zimbabwe.
21 – Karnataka – Inde du sud.
22 – Quel est ton destin.

Does anyone know if this exists as an album in any form?

P.S. I never found anything about the single edit.

OK, it turns out that that list is the episode guide. I was stumped by the authors poor English.

Hi
Wow! This is a great forums. I never thought about a forum like this! It's really impressive!
I am new posting at this thread, so...kindly I will ask if any one here can illuminate my day with the best download option for "The Bounty" soundtrack. I know there are a couple of new files out there with better quality than the old bootlegs! I will really appreciate it!
By the way, does anyone know from where the music of the bootleg came from? The track called "Cast Adrift" is only a few minutes long on the movie and it just fade out at the ending. Also the "saga of the hms Bounty" it's not from the movie. Well, maybe the first half! Any ideas?

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/Back_zpsqq8htmkr.jpg.html)

https://mega.nz/#!W9EQjLCI!bW4xmk0ZGYv-XJOEr1yduUeV5-4UYK3EhC92adKNCOE

Track 19.


Is this whole Themes III bootleg sharable ? Thank you in advance.

Vangelis - Themes III (Bootleg Compilation) 2001 mp3 @ 192kps

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/Front_zpsbjoetcwh.jpg.html)

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/Back_zpsqq8htmkr.jpg.html)

https://mega.nz/#!H5NkiDAL!bLBennIhNK5BtsDR9uXpg_deiJ1vAQXgs_8vXQtFWKY

Thank you

Cheers Atget !

Hi
Wow! This is a great forums. I never thought about a forum like this! It's really impressive!
I am new posting at this thread, so...kindly I will ask if any one here can illuminate my day with the best download option for "The Bounty" soundtrack. I know there are a couple of new files out there with better quality than the old bootlegs! I will really appreciate it!
By the way, does anyone know from where the music of the bootleg came from? The track called "Cast Adrift" is only a few minutes long on the movie and it just fade out at the ending. Also the "saga of the hms Bounty" it's not from the movie. Well, maybe the first half! Any ideas?

The music for The Bounty bootleg came from a tape handled to some collector.
Out of that tape four different bootlegs exists. One of them might be considered a first generation "unaltered" copy of the original. The rest were either edits, unlucky tries with denoisers to tame the hiss or very clever suites out of the music on the tape anyway.

The tape as the bootlegs that came off it are full stereo while the latest boots on eBay clearly sourced the mono isolated track that the releasing company was granted the permission to publish in a maimed mono version... but that is just my opinion on the mono version of the isolated score of course!

Did you check Thread 187965 ?

The cruelest irony of The Bounty: the unathorized bootlegs are in stereo, but the officially released isolated score is in mono

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Can anyone share a rip of the 2015 vinyl remaster of Blade Runner? (Not the youtube version, please!)

Sorry, I can't help as I don't have the vinyl. Of course rips are digital copies of audio technically speaking and making a decent copy of analogue audio from vinyl is a lot harder to do than ripping. It really needs unplayed vinyl, a quality turntable, pricey software and experience/skill to do it properly. I'm sure that is why decent quality digital files of vinyl-sourced audio are much harder to find than digital rips. Good luck with your search.
Steve


Can anyone share a rip of the 2015 vinyl remaster of Blade Runner? (Not the youtube version, please!)

Can anyone share a rip of the 2015 vinyl remaster of Blade Runner? (Not the youtube version, please!)

Do you mean the Audio Fidelity new transfer from the 1992 DAT?

It is EXACTLY the same as in the cd version.

It is going to be a waste of space since it will need to be done at 88.2kHz 24bit to make up for the analog translation to better represent the analog values that will sound the same as in the cd version minus the Shure needle minimal coloration and the RIIA preamp of course. Not to mention every other decent sound card out there adding its own on the recording stage.

Sure you need that?

When I did it I simply trashed it after a while... but if there is any particular reason you'd like to have that I can fix back the needle on the Thorens.

Ok, I'll leave it then.

This is the Audio Fidelity 2013 reissue, not the 2015 EastWest reissue. Stay away from the picture disc rip off if you can keep the collector out of your pockets. Picture discs are as good as any picture on the wall really.

https://mega.nz/#!VsNlEJJY!-Z0TjM3JUwrqqT-8sYq5UM5-FjnlIhdH4AwA4SzPOkw
https://mega.nz/#!UhlxwLKA!qigq6IicuvzP5jT4SurSFkeUso_QFsvEeh-HQu6-X-U
https://mega.nz/#!d8U1gZjb!2WAU4PrldlmnPay7sZ9vQgSa8774RazPH-hro_lxbxo

Not my doing, but do check for yourself anyway.

Courtesy of Euripides. Whoever he might be and where of course. :)

But let's simply put it like that. And this is not going to be different from every vinyl reissue from a digital master.
You are starting with a DAT master tape that does not go over 22kHz.
You use that to make a high resolution master that no matter what is not going to exceed 22kHz even if it goes up to 96kHz.
Think to that as rendering a 320kbps mp3 to a wav file. It will only make the file bigger but not sonically better.
All of your work to produce the master is being done in digital domain.
You obviously end up with a digital master that you are going to use to press an analog vinyl.
And use perhaps the very same master to produce a SACD with a CD layer.
Being digital to start with I'd stick at keeping that digital and necessarily compromising on my DAC, amplifier and speakers to put it mildly.
With vinyl I'd just be adding the needle and RIIA preamp on top of that.
But here we are.
Some people like it the analog way. :)

Though I did not particularly like the whole Audio Fidelity (or the EastWest for what it matters) dealing with producing the master I feel they both could have done much better than that in rendering the music on the vinyl.
You can still find some of the Audio Fidelity red copies around I guess. The EastWest is the stuff of dreams as I am writing.
Get that instead of the limited 2015 and 2017 rip offs.
The artwork on the vinyl is like it was always meant to be though. ;)

Thank you very much. Don't forget, all the needles, turntables, amps, and software are on one side, the Mark 1 human ear plays a part too.

...all the needles, turntables, amps, and software are on one side, the Mark 1 human ear plays a part too.

I've got a couple Mark 1 human ear... a bit worn out but still acceptable! :)

As far as a seller described the item: the 2013 reissue is on red vinyl, the 2015 reissue is on black vinyl, the 2017 reissue is on picture disc.

Red and black are sonically the same, picture disc was inferior to both.

The cruelest irony of The Bounty: the unathorized bootlegs are in stereo, but the officially released isolated score is in mono

Yes you're right. Also one of the best Vangelis scores ever. It's a real shame we still don't have a release after all these years. I remember first seeing the film around 1984 and being blown away by the music. I'm still waiting for a release now...

The cruelest irony of The Bounty: the unathorized bootlegs are in stereo, but the officially released isolated score is in mono

Has anyone posted the mono score here? I've looked, but don't see any sign.

I didn't even know that The Bounty was officially released, or at least isolated. Any reason why they'd only be given permission for a mono release instead of stereo?

I didn't even know that The Bounty was officially released, or at least isolated. Any reason why they'd only be given permission for a mono release instead of stereo?

I contacted them at the time complaining about the mono isolated track as I assumed from their advance publicity it would be in stereo. All they said was that the person responsible for compiling the Blu-ray used the best available sources at the time and only a mono source was available. Who knows how hard this person tried or whether somewhere along the line someone blocked the stereo source as it must have existed. It was a big disappointment and a missed opportunity, but then Vangelis fans are long used to this kind of let-down, unfortunately!

Has anyone posted the mono score here? I've looked, but don't see any sign.Thread 187965

The cruelest irony of The Bounty: the unauthorized bootlegs are in stereo, but the officially released isolated score is in mono

It is technically possible to make a proper isolated score in stereo editing up the tape transfer on the Bounty WD9405/One World Music boots processed by a Dolby A emulation... it does take time though...

The music on the score was edited down from the very same tape master as a matter of fact.


Has anyone posted the mono score here? I've looked, but don't see any sign.

The Bounty [Isolated Score Track]

https://mega.co.nz/#!PBUihTYD!5Ppj-lpDfQcEHqQl1f2C_AEIaMg6Z__TY7oEhrj0RWo
https://mega.co.nz/#!eQFnBRpC!jH3gJX2SyMiTVGehpz8snnGD6mEzqGSTqTs7Jms pAbc
https://mega.co.nz/#!aMNGSaiY!CeGxzaZXoJkyX7hSuxR81XMESPOjhjh23MXP81S GVps
https://mega.co.nz/#!OVNTnK6b!I-1tqPZMlMJZiIZYcmz7ueisV4griiEU_CnKq6fNcSQ
https://mega.co.nz/#!7QUSRTYK!b5FeC1pHNoZM-8v-Fkss-YABmJ82wUO00Icg_2dUhtQ
https://mega.co.nz/#!rRtwiLRD!xCrie-TwjAr0EBDvldnvddzEkR__OBt1s7o3QqC-Zd4
https://mega.co.nz/#!TZFAzSRS!ekKa4F2IuKKBnxkwM6wPme_KXeaS8RSWPiFMcje OSh0

There is silence where the music was not used.

Foobar2000 with the DTS component will perform the needed magic to make it happen... you'll need a cue file to skip the silence though...

Thanks. I think I can manage that.

For those who want the Delectus discs, but don't want to pay big bucks for the boxed set, the CDs have been released individually. I saw all 13 discs in record store "FOPP" (A UK chain) for �5 GBP each (€5.89 /$6.44).
They are packaged in the same style as the RCA remasters, in a digipak case. As they were sealed, I can't comment on any information contained inside.
At the budget price, the full set would cost �65 GBP, but you don't get the book, or the poster. On the plus side, you can pick and choose which discs you buy, rather than pay for CDs you don't want. Assuming you want any at all.

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Vangelis - The Bounty Tapes Collection [2017]



Disc A: Original Master's Stereo Mixes

01. Opening Titles 4.14
02. Court Martial 2.20
03. Setting Sail 2.49
04. The Water Is Wide* 4.19
05. Leaving England 1.44
06. Bonny Kate* 2.07
07. Becalmed 2.43
08. Attempting The Horn 5.45
09. Disappointment 1.13
10. Mr. Fryer Replaced 1.29
11. Valentine's Burial* 0.38
12. Fair Sailing 2.33
13. Tahitian Welcome** 1.38
14. Drowsy Maggie* 1.39
15. Ceremony #1** 3.05
16. Ceremony #2** 3.05
17. The Turning Point 3.13
18. Sailors In Paradise 0.57
19. Bligh Haunted 10.58
20. It WIll Not Be Long 3.37
21. Toiavine 0.49
22. Native Drums** 1.07
23. Fletcher's Goodbye 2.13
24. Discipline 5.20
25. Breaking Point 7.06
26. Mutiny 4.09
27. Bligh Set Adrift 7.54
28. Reunited 0.40
29. Argument 0.32
30. Fletcher's Log 0.33
31. On The Run 0.43
32. Civilised Men 1.34
33. Two Journeys 2.00
34. Pitcairn Island / Burning The Bounty / Bligh Absolved 5.19
35. The Bounty 15.44

Disc B: Isolated Score's Mono Edits

01. Main Titles 3.36
02. The Trial Of Lt. William Bligh 1.05
03. 23rd December 1787 2.28
04. The Water Is Wide* 2.13
05. First Day At Sea 1.37
06. Bonnie Kate 1.00*
07. Cape Horn 7.16
08. Memories Of Home 1.15
09. Bligh's Fury 0.39
10. Land-Ho! 2.14
11. The Natives Of Otahiti** 1.00
12. Longboat Approach 2.01
13. Drowsy Maggie* 0.59
14. Ritual Ceremony** 3.31
15. A Sailor On The Sea** */ Forbidden Love 3.13
16. My Young Love* 0.33
17. To Fletcher, A Wife 0.49
18. Deserters 0.58
19. Kiss The Gunner's Daughter 0.57
20. Native Dance** 1.08
21. Report To The Ship 1.29
22. Dr. Huggan Is Dead 0.06
23. A Last Night Of Love 3.14
24. Discipline On The Ship 1.37
25. Leaving Love Behind 1.41
26. A Life Back Home 1.13
27. Bligh's Madness 4.07
28. Thinking Of Mutiny 0.19
29. By Way Of Cape Horn 1.34
30. Around The Horn 0.26
31. One Last Reasoning 0.17
32. Mutiny On The Bounty / Bonny Kate* 1.59
33. A Final Appeal 0.14
34. God Damn Your Blood 1.16
35. Cast Adrift 2.19
36. Cast Adrift Reprise 0.58
37. Return To Otahiti 0.41
38. Leaving All Behind 1.23
39. Last Farewell To Otahiti 0.53
40. Free At Last 0.49
41. Sailing Beyond The Reach Of Justice 0.58
42. Men Against The Sea 0.34
43. Log Entries 0.34
44. The Mutineers's Threats 0.46
45. Civilised Men 1.35
46. Limits Of Endurance 2.59
47. The Saga Of H.M.S. Bounty - Closing Titles 10.05

Disc C: Themes Compilation's New Mixes

01. Opening Titles from "The Bounty" 4.19
02. Closing Titles from "The Bounty" 5.01

* Barry Dransfield
** Native Tahitians

https://mega.nz/#!lllHATIT!X8ulxouVvSVoXWyqMdWfRFtLu4EuEIRpZw_qsFVzwCU

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Vangelis - The Bounty 30th Anniversary Complete Score [2015]



01. Main Titles 4.19
02. Trial Of Lt William Bligh 2.30
03. 23rd December 1787 2.46
04. The Water Is Wide* 4.20
05. First Day At Sea 1.41
06. Bonnie Kate* 2.03
07. Cape Horn 8.33
08. Memories Of Home 1.15
09. Bligh's Fury 1.28
10. Valentine's Burial* 0.36
11. Land-Ho! 2.31
12. The Natives Of Tahiti** 1.36
13. Longboat Approach 2.05
14. Drowsy Maggie* 1.35
15. Ritual Ceremony** 3.04
16. Forbidden Love 8.02
17. My Young Love* 3.36
18. Fletcher In Paradise 0.47
19. Main Titles Reprise I 1.28
20. Native Dance** 1.06
21. Main Titles Reprise II 1.46
22. New Deserters 5.03
23. Last Night By Love 2.14
24. Bligh's Madness 1.36
25. Discipline On The Ship 10.59
26. Mutiny On The Bounty 4.28
27. William Bligh Set Adrift 8.05
28. Return To Tahiti 0.42
29. Closing Sequence Part III Reprise 0.54
30. Civilized Men Reprise 0.51
31. Men Against The Sea 0.34
32. Fletcher Christian's Log 0.36
33. Mutineers Threats 0.47
34. Civilized Men 1.40
35. Limits Of Endurance 3.02
36. The Saga Of H.M.S. Bounty 20.56

* Barry Dransfield
** Native Tahitians

https://mega.nz/#!tk0RlKJD!6_200CJED1mqPFURcDodNftJVkaOUrj0jOyFuzjLT_A

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Vangelis - The Bounty Isolated Score [2015]



01. The Bounty Suite Part 1 18.51
02. The Bounty Suite Part 2 14.58
03. The Bounty Suite Part 3 - Saga Of H.M.S. Bounty 19.49

https://mega.nz/#!98sm1DTQ!0KyZK_YqcFxtZZrzld0Yd8p3LOJRP4FidZsyhSYYsiQ

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Vangelis - The Bounty (Audio Restoration Project) [2015]



01. Main Title 4.19
02. The Trial Of Lt. William Bligh 1.01
03. The Trial Of Lt. William Bligh (Extended) 2.21
04. 23rd December 1787 2.41
05. 23rd December 1787 (Extended) 2.51
06. First Day At Sea 1.46
07. Cape Horn (Part 1) 2.46
08. Cape Horn (Part 2) V1 4.31
09. Cape Horn (Part 2) V2 5.46
10. Memories Of Home 1.14
11. Bligh's Fury 0.39
12. Bligh's Fury (Extended) 1.35
13. Burial At Sea (Land-Ho!) 2.15
14. To Fletcher, A Wife 0.50
15. A Last Night Together 2.11
16. A Last Night Together (Extended) 3.14
17. Deserters 5.05
18. Bligh's Madness 1.34
19. Mutiny On The Bounty 3.05
20. Mutiny On The Bounty (Extended) 4.22
21. Cast Adrift 3.19
22. Cast Adrift (Extended) 8.06
23. Return To Otahiti 0.41
24. Leaving Otahaiti 0.54
25. Mutineers' Sport 0.51
26. Where Are We To Head 1.00
27. Men Against The Sea 0.33
28. Log Entries 0.36
29. Spirits Are Low 0.48
30. Civilized Men 1.36
31. Limits Of Endurance 2.02
32. Limits Of Endurance (Extended) 3.01
33. Ending 5.08
34. Credits 5.08
35. Exit Music 10.59

https://mega.nz/#!h4dGxRpa!F3a8X0SWNeWMt1TKXlJO2IDfwyeZxKv6pxfsNSrIFyU

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Vangelis - The Bounty (Limited Edition) (One World Music) [1995]



Disc 1

01. Main Titles 4.18
02. The Trial Of Lt. William Bligh 2.22
03. 23rd December 1787 2.53
04. The Water Is Wide* 4.23
05. First Day At Sea 1.48
06. Bonnie Kate* 2.07
07. Cape Horn 8.42
08. Memories Of Home 1.17
09. Bligh's Fury 1.36
10. Burial At Sea* / "Land-Ho!" 3.14
11. The Natives Of Otahiti** 1.38
12. Longboat Approach** 3.08
13. Drowsy Maggie* 1.38
14. Ritual** 3.06
15. A Sailor On The Sea* ** / Forbidden Love 8.45
16. My Young Love* 3.41
17. To Fletcher, A Wife 0.50
18. Deserters 5.05
19. Native Dance** 1.09
20. A Last Night Together 2.18

Disc 2

01. Alternate Titles 11.10
02. Bligh's Madness 1.35
03. Mutiny On The Bounty 4.22
04. Cast Adrift 8.07
05. Return To Otahiti 0.41
06. Men Against The Sea 0.33
07. Log Entries 0.36
08. The Mutineers's Threats 0.47
09. Civilized Men 1.36
10. Limits Of Endurance 2.02
11. The Saga Of H.M.S. Bounty: I. Pitcairn's Island II. The Verdict III. Epilogue IV. End Title In Three Movements 21.15

* Barry Dransfield
** Native Tahitians

https://mega.nz/#!VxkzxICa!57GQ63HQLR1UhuKHtM3YmblCPlDAI6Zko8jPPN0wtr8

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Vangelis - The Bounty (Asian Worlds)



01. Opening Title 4.19
02. 23rd Of December 2.55
03. First Day At Sea 1.50
04. Memories Of Home 1.19
05. Cape Horn 8.44
06. Burial At Sea* / Land-Ho! 3.16
07. Forbidden Love 8.47
08. To Fletcher, A Wife 0.52
09. A Last Night Together 2.20
10. Cast Adrift 8.09
11. Return To Tahiti 0.43
12. Men Against The Sea 0.35
13. Log Entries 0.38
14. The Mutineers Threats 0.49
15. Civilized Men 1.38
16. Limits Of Endurance 2.04
17. Saga Of H.M.A.V. Bounty 21.15

* Barry Dransfield

https://mega.nz/#!ws9i3bBA!ANDm_J4jG-eDOvQsIAZBs_vvgIuHZcrcHzD-PLyh94M

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Vangelis - The Bounty (OST)



01. Opening Titles 4.18
02. Court Martial 2.21
03. Setting Sail 2.23
04. The Water Is Wide* 4.20
05. Leaving England 1.30
06. Bonnie Kate* 2.07
07. Becalmed 2.52
08. Attempting The Horn 5.42
09. Disappointment 1.14
10. Mr. Fryer Replaced 1.36
11. Valentine's Burial* 0.37
12. Fair Sailing 2.12
13. Tahitian Welcome** 1.38
14. Drowsy Maggie* 1.38
15. Ceremony** 3.03
16. It Will Not Be Long 3.12
17. My Young Love* 3.42
18. Toiavine 0.48
19. Native Drums** 1.07
20. Bligh Haunted 11.03
21. Fletcher's Goodbye 4.52
22. Discipline 1.36
23. Breaking Point 5.48
24. Mutiny 4.11
25. Bligh Set Adrift 8.07
26. Reunited 0.38
27. Argument 0.33
28. Fletcher's Log 0.31
29. On The Run 0.43
30. Civilised Men 1.31
31. Two Journeys 3.00
32. Pitcairn Island / Burning The Bounty / Bligh Absolved 5.08
33. The Bounty, Movement 1 4.58
34. The Bounty, Movement 2 7.31
35. The Bounty, Movement 3 3.28

* Barry Dransfield
** Native Tahitians

https://mega.nz/#!5o0hhBib!xiRBuJGReg84oJmfDLfZVTZGeUXFe5o8p32zAXwm_Ls

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Dominik Hauser - The Bounty [2010]



01. The Bounty - Main Title 4.23
02. Bounty Leaving England 2.39
03. Bonny Kate* 2.15
04. Bligh In His Cabin 1.43
05. Cape Horn 3.17
06. Failure At Cape Horn 1.17
07. Drowsy Maggie* 1.49
08. Sailing On 2.24
09. Mauatua Is Pregnant 0.57
10. She Moved Through The Fair** 4.34
11. Leaving Tahiti 2.15
12. Bligh To Boat 3.17
13. Return To Tahiti / Purcell Confronts Bligh 1.40
14. Christian And Young 1.56
15. Finding Pitcairn / Burning The Bounty / Bligh Exonerated 3.50
16. The Bounty End Title 14.41
17. Medley from Bitter Moon 3.15
18. Medley from Francesco 2.45
19. Theme from La Peste (The Plague)** 4.00
20. The Bounty - End Credit (Single Edit) 5.04

* Elizabeth Hedman
** Dominik Hauser featuring Katie Campbell

https://mega.nz/#!k0VSECbZ!KP9GgP8GUwcDPUelY4ByY3EGcMoFvTfMdXV7nV16rn0

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Vangelis - The Bounty (Sebastien's Edition) [2007]



Disc 1

01. Opening Titles (Film Version) 3.20
02. Trial Of Lt William Bligh 3.24
03. 23 December 1787 2.51
04. The Water is Wide** 4.23
05. First Day at Sea 1.45
06. Bonny Kate** 2.07
07. Cap Horn 7.00
08. Bligh's Fury Prologue 0.37
09. Memories Of Home 1.12
10. Bligh's Fury 1.30
11. Valentine's Burial** 0.39
12. Land-Ho! 2.01
13. The Natives Of Tahiti** 1.39
14. Longboat Approach 3.09
15. Drowsy Maggie** 1.39
16. Ritual Ceremony** 2.57
17. Forbidden Love 3.45
18. My Young Love** 3.42
19. Fletcher In Paradise 0.52
20. Titles 1st Reprise 1.25
21. Native Dance** 1.08
22. Titles 2nd reprise 1.33
23. Last Night By Love 1.41
24. New Deserters Part I 3.54
25. New Deserters Part II 0.16
26. Bligh's Madness Intro 0.14
27. Bligh's Madness 1.14

Disc 2

01. Discipline On The Ship 11.09
02. Mutiny On the Bounty 4.19
03. William Bligh Set Adrift 2.10
04. Return To Tahiti 0.39
05. The Bounty (Closing Sequence Part III reprise) 0.56
06. Civilized Men Reprise 0.50
07. Memories Of Home Reprise 0.45
08. Men Against The Sea 0.34
09. Fletcher Christian's Log 0.36
10. Mutineers Threats 0.42
11. Civilized Men 1.29
12. Limits of Endurance 2.53
13. The Bounty Closing Sequence Part I 4.54
14. The Bounty Closing Sequence Part II 4.56
15. The Bounty Closing Sequence Part III 7.30
16. The Bounty Closing Sequence Part IV 3.25

* Barry Dransfield
** Native Tahitians

https://mega.nz/#!8lVgSbwY!az78V5z3x8NjpAWMbgWYrJquXDOM0x6fIIJqY__qt-Q

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Vangelis - The Bounty Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (WD9405) [1994]



Volume 1

01. Opening Titles 4.16
02. Court Martial 2.20
03. Setting Sail 2.50
04. The Water Is Wide* 4.18
05. Leaving England 1.47
06. Bonny Kate* 2.09
07. Becalmed 2.45
08. Attempting The Horn 5.47
09. Disappointment 1.13
10. Mr. Fryer Replaced 1.31
11. Valentine's Burial* 0.39
12. Fair Sailing 2.35
13. Tahitian Welcome** 1.39
14. Drowsy Maggie* 1.40
15. Ceremony #1** 3.07
16. Ceremony #2** 3.04
17. The Turning Point 3.15
18. Sailors In Paradise 0.57
19. Bligh Haunted 10.59
20. It Will Not Be Long 3.36

Volume 2

01. Toiavine 0.51
02. Native Drums** 1.08
03. Fletcher's Goodbye 2.15
04. Discipline 5.22
05. Breaking Point 7.07
06. Mutiny 4.11
07. Bligh Set Adrift 7.55
08. Reunited 0.41
09. Argument 0.34
10. Fletcher's Log 0.35
11. On The Run 0.45
12. Civilised Men 1.36
13. Two Journeys 2.01
14. Pitcairn Island / Burning The Bounty / Bligh Absolved 5.20
15. The Bounty 15.43

* Barry Dransfield
** Native Tahitians

https://mega.nz/#!5lUXnbSS!DV36O9L80pkwCXBJ-M7uGyrhIOC-bqjf1lm_Y8WHND0

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Vangelis - The Bounty (Unreleased) [2015]



01. Leaving England 1.46
02. Medley 5.20
03. Opening Titles 4.15
04. Setting Sail 2.50
05. The Bounty 15.42

https://mega.nz/#!dpUVWLqa!vDoJKeRgdHivuC6nHhsCTOb1qgkmHJTTgyzW80AA9Vk

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... not much to add except the only two versions missing from this post: the Movie Line (http://www.vangelis-rarities.com/index.php?methode=methode1&id=159) edition and the Incidental Version (http://www.vangelis-rarities.com/index.php?methode=methode1&id=119).
Perhaps one day they will be shared also here as well?

The Bounty Tapes Collection � 2017 is something DC Music always wanted to have a go at, but never dared to, because of the plethora of versions that were surfacing at the time.
The result is pretty the same as the releases that preceded this perhaps. Only as much complete and accurate as the sources used.

The Bounty 30th Anniversary Complete Score � 2015 is the updated version of the The Bounty (Sebastien's Edition) � 2007 and much better in most aspects.
If the original 2007 version was good the 30th Anniversary version is even better.

The Bounty Isolated Score � 2015 turns the different bits of music in the movie into a proper suite by the maker of The Sound Of Blade Runner - Definitive Edition.
If you are familiar with the maker's work you know what to expect.

The Bounty (Audio Restoration Project) � 2015 is the more accurate and pure regarding the soundtrack. Only the music by the composer is presented here. And in a quite exhaustive way.
Head to the official thread (Thread 187965) by the maker of the release for more info.

The Bounty (Limited Edition) (One World Music) � 1995 was the one that made it on the wider audiences and started it all in a way.
The sound is a bit muffled with a light bass saturation in places perhaps, but that is what we were left as far as the original masters were concerned.

The Bounty (Asian Worlds) as shared by most collectors appears to be just a "best of" the One World Music version. Simply as that. No artwork ever made its way into a wider audience.

The Bounty (OST) appears to be a clever go at mixing both the tape sources and the edits as presented in the movie resulting in a blend of incidental and clean versions of the music in the movie.
When you do not leave any info behind there is no way we cannot thank anyone enough.

The "not that bad" rendition of The Bounty by Dominik Hauser � 2010 is presented here for completeness. If you ever needs that of course. There might be still some psychical copies left if you look around.

The Bounty (Sebastien's Edition) � 2007 has the Pendor artworks as widely shared on p2p networks. We cannot thank enough neither S�bastien nor Pendor for the fine work on that.

The Bounty Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (WD9405) � 1994 is the best unedited source of the music around. It might suffer of the same issues of the One World Music limited edition but in principle is a better transfer of the only surviving tape.
Until the official composer will ever decide to go public with the masters stored in his vaults of course!

The Bounty (Unreleased) � 2015 did not have any info attached to it. It appears to have properly equalized versions of the available stereo sources as a matter of fact.
Cannot add much to this I'm afraid.

I did add what was needed to be added to the subject. And tagged it as best it was ever possible. The rest might be up to everybody else! ;)

WOW! What loads of people have been doing with the Blade Runner soundtrack over the course of many years, you have done for The Bounty in a single post!

Thanks for putting in the effort!

Yes, wow! Thank you very for such rich "The Bounty" collection, dadadacicici!
There are so much bootlegs for "Blade Runner", "The Bounty" and another Vangelis works around the net... Amazing.
But I wonder about "Alexander". In my opinion, it is one of best composer's masterpieces, but there are only two or three awful bootlegs,
which missed a lot of music from the movie. Why? Vangelis fans don't love that soundtrack?
"Alexander Revisited: The Final Cut" gives us a full experience of music, that was written for film. It was ten years ago and there are no albums, official or unofficial,
that contains the real full complete score. That is sadly. I can't understand it, especially after a regular bunches of new "Blade Runner" custom versions.

Vangelis - Antartica (2017 Remaster) mp3 @ 320kps

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/echosnare/CD2/00-vangelis-antarctica%20remastered%202017%20Front_zps3hygh3m7 .jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/00-vangelis-antarctica%20remastered%202017%20Front_zps3hygh3m7 .jpg.html)

1 Theme From Antarctica 7:24
2 Antarctica Echoes 5:52
3 Kinematic 3:44
4 Song Of White 4:50
5 Life Of Antarctica 5:56
6 Memory Of Antarctica 5:25
7 Other Side Of Antarctica 6:50
8 Deliverance 4:29

https://mega.nz/#!uscQmRTA!mrtsI5v5N7eyHKmstLzmWlc8LV49_3KEtneOK83MEI4

Vangelis - China (2017 Remaster) mp3 @ 320

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/00-vangelis-china_remastered%202017%20Front_zpsbldfqvrz.jpg.ht ml)


1 Chung Kuo 1:43
2 The Long March 5:50
3 The Dragon 4:06
4 The Plum Blossom 2:30
5 The Tao Of Love 2:40
6 The Little Fete 2:57
7 Yin & Yang 5:46
8 Himalaya 10:35
9 Summit 4:45

https://mega.nz/#!ClEA0STI!eTyMa_yay1hV6AHhRcj4shz9zuamEJrG3-4TS5ad0iw


Vangelis - L'Apocalypse Des Animaux (2017 Remaster) mp3 @ 320

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/echosnare/CD2/00-vangelis-lapocalypse_des_animaux_remastered%202017%20Front_ zpse33rfope.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/00-vangelis-lapocalypse_des_animaux_remastered%202017%20Front_ zpse33rfope.jpg.html)

1 Apocalypse Des Animaux - G�n�rique 1:28
2 La Petite Fille De La Mer 5:54
3 Le Singe Bleu 7:40
4 Le Mort Du Loup 3:05
5 L'ours Musicien 1:04
6 Cr�ation Du Monde 10:02
7 La Mer Recommenc�e 5:54

https://mega.nz/#!mks01aBb!mjEyUNxXlk1huQMG9rTAfsJkAONobW-3fcX0PcSdBDg

Many thanks for all The Bounty downloads dadadacicici - great work!

Vangelis - Opera Sauvage (2017 Remaster) OST

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/Front_zpspharrljy.jpg.html)

1 Hymne 2:44
2 R�ve 12:31
3 L'enfant 5:00
4 Mouettes 2:34
5 Chromatique 3:28
6 Irlande 4:44
7 Flamants Roses 11:43

https://mega.nz/#!LkNlFQpZ!Uttb8XYJI3sz8yXbcit2yijQi2_97aLWt8wA0YdSVK8

(is Dadadacicici a word form to blade runner end titles ? ) you're a star for sharing the bounty versions, thank you so much :) I (we) really appreciate it and your generous prolific nature !

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Yes, wow! Thank you very for such rich "The Bounty" collection, dadadacicici!
There are so much bootlegs for "Blade Runner", "The Bounty" and another Vangelis works around the net... Amazing.
But I wonder about "Alexander". In my opinion, it is one of best composer's masterpieces, but there are only two or three awful bootlegs,
which missed a lot of music from the movie. Why? Vangelis fans don't love that soundtrack?
"Alexander Revisited: The Final Cut" gives us a full experience of music, that was written for film. It was ten years ago and there are no albums, official or unofficial,
that contains the real full complete score. That is sadly. I can't understand it, especially after a regular bunches of new "Blade Runner" custom versions.

Yea and what about a score to Midnight Express instead of that nightmare disco soundtrack that's available :)

Vangelis - Invisible Connections (2017 Remaster) FLAC

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/front_zpsqzkl7igq.jpg.html)

1 Invisible Connections 18:30
2 Atom Blaster 7:42
3 Thermo Vision 13:19

https://mega.nz/#!m00XwLYb!ZxR8eFPePpSPgQvF7Mc-qRR9oOfsZOdKGgHdT7eBEfI

Vangelis - Mask (2017 Remaster) FLAC

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/Front_zpsoylqahuk.jpg.html)

1 Mask: Movement 1 10:17
2 Mask: Movement 2 3:26
3 Mask: Movement 3 6:40
4 Mask: Movement 4 8:42
5 Mask: Movement 5 9:59
6 Mask: Movement 6 4:23

https://mega.nz/#!6gNXhYbA!rq-6h4aDio0ul8j0QD592bkr8f42TrShgbMMl-dugT4

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Vangelis - Soil Festivities (2017 Remaster) FLAC

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/Front_zpsjeolj4a2.jpg.html)

1 Soil Festivities: Movement 1 17:35
2 Soil Festivities: Movement 2 6:18
3 Soil Festivities: Movement 3 6:06
4 Soil Festivities: Movement 4 9:54
5 Soil Festivities: Movement 5 7:19

https://mega.nz/#!ahtiXJLa!DayVgcczp4_5QgKMHCD1SjlP9xYPBE_YwaUztso6aM0

Here's a different mix of Albedo 006 I found on Soulseek, interesting but slightly a bit distorted. https://mega.nz/#!khIVwJLL!pDyh0zwKUTX8LvRkK8R6m2zq5PDr3VxxOwRXhINpa1k

Could this link be updated, please?

I have a request, friends. I have this EP on vinyl, and had intended transferring it to digital, on account of the edits of the tracks not being available elsewhere. Unfortunately, my copy is damaged, and unplayable. Can anyone share a vinyl rip of this?

(http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/R-1075951-1354556177-6089.jpeg_zpsdrzrrn6o.jpg.html) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/echosnare/media/CD2/R-1075951-1191290162.jpeg_zpsbmgverqb.jpg.html)

I hope someone here can help me.

I had no idea that these were different edits. I came across it a couple of months ago on a market and skipped it because I thought it was just another simple compilation. Hopefully I'll come across it some day soon again.

I had no idea that these were different edits. I came across it a couple of months ago on a market and skipped it because I thought it was just another simple compilation. Hopefully I'll come across it some day soon again.

I used to own this. As far as I remember it was only Pulstar that was edited and I don't see why it would be any different to the edit that appeared on the Pulstar 7" single. The other tracks were the same length as the album tracks. The Discogs entry for this release backs this up: https://www.discogs.com/Vangelis-4-Track-EP/release/1075951

Hello! I have this E.P in mp3@320kbps format. Here is a link for you... :)


https://mega.nz/#!CdcFRAxb!X55VCk0QI16YlYJS5hvbhjHYfumra_-d56gcQIdc01Q

Hello guys,
I'm new here and this is my first post. As a big fan of Vangelis, I've been in search for quite some time now for the albums Athens 1997 and Athens 2004 among others. Apparently, these were released only in a few copies and are considered extremely rare nowadays. I there a collector who has any of these albums and would like to share it? Any effort is greatly appreciated.

Hello guys,
I'm new here and this is my first post. As a big fan of Vangelis, I've been in search for quite some time now for the albums Athens 1997 and Athens 2004 among others. Apparently, these were released only in a few copies and are considered extremely rare nowadays. I there a collector who has any of these albums and would like to share it? Any effort is greatly appreciated.

Welcome to the site! Sorry I cant help but hopefully someone else will.
Steve

Hello guys,
I'm new here and this is my first post. As a big fan of Vangelis, I've been in search for quite some time now for the albums Athens 1997 and Athens 2004 among others. Apparently, these were released only in a few copies and are considered extremely rare nowadays. I there a collector who has any of these albums and would like to share it? Any effort is greatly appreciated.

Hello, here are the two albums for you https://mega.nz/#!Vo502BKQ!5liRb7RTdKAw_JF5cxE8GVzfoGRnAeCvYVAPJLZLIlo

Hello, here are the two albums for you https://mega.nz/#!Vo502BKQ!5liRb7RTdKAw_JF5cxE8GVzfoGRnAeCvYVAPJLZLIlo

Wow, thanks a lot for these! Athens '97 is a true gem to me. Any chance of having a flac copy as well ?

Wow, thanks a lot for these! Athens '97 is a true gem to me. Any chance of having a flac copy as well ?

Hi sorry I only have those mp3 versions but happy to help.

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Just to prove that these exist and that I'm not crazy: info about the Missing recording sessions (http://www.vangelis-rarities.com/index.php?methode=methode1&id=209)

I hope that someone can leak this..

I would love to listen to that score as well :)

Just to prove that these exist and that I'm not crazy: info about the Missing recording sessions (http://www.vangelis-rarities.com/index.php?methode=methode1&id=209)
I hope that someone can leak this..

If anyone does have this and is happy to share please let me know. Thanks!

Just to prove that these exist and that I'm not crazy: info about the Missing recording sessions (http://www.vangelis-rarities.com/index.php?methode=methode1&id=209)

I hope that someone can leak this..

VERY INTERESTING, OF COURSE.

Hopefully it contains what's missing from the Memoires bootleg, namely the morgue cue and the film version of "Charlie and Terry's Flashback"

Isn't this the "director mix" on those 24/26 track versions?

The description on the Rarities page indicates that the set contains demos and alternates as well. That being said, I'm pretty sure that not every cue has those director mixes; and plus, weren't those mixes the same as the "regular" mixes anyway? I couldn't discern any differences

Hi there !
Director mix should contain only final music. This version contains, among other, different mixes of the same track

Antas how to contact U?

Could this link be updated, please?

Hello, yes, here it is https://mega.nz/#!J8Q1CSbI!v2o_ucJ8hRQvDDH_nD91fK7FPS9D5mBxlWqnaNgrVsY

Antas how to contact U?

ThnkU Dear old friend!!!!

My prediction. The end title theme to bladerunner2 will be a remix or something very similar to Vangelis's original end title theme. It's impossible to avoid that.

My prediction. The end title theme to bladerunner2 will be a remix or something very similar to Vangelis's original end title theme. It's impossible to avoid that.

I very much hope that it isn't. As they decided not to go with Vangelis as composer it should be something original rather than just a recycling of the classic score.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/30/16065872/hans-zimmer-blade-runner-2049-compose-score-denis-villeneuve

I sure hope it's good.

Is that the same Zoran we were all missing since some time now?

Either a replicant stole one of his unleashed avatars pretending to be him or it must be the very man himself!

Welcome back... whether a replicant or not! ;)

Here they are the complete Tegos Tapes:

https://youtu.be/SW3_jpG6ShE

Hi pals! someone can to relink or repost links for "Francesco" pls?

Hi All,
I put together another mix, you may have heard some of this material before here and there, and if sound fx and dialogue is not you bag then this might not be the mix for you. Personally I love the mix like this. In some cases I added my own sound FX to allow me to add different music cues to well known scenes. This took many months work. So this is not just a recording of the movies music cues. The majority of music tracks were 16 bit Flac files. I haven't got around to art work yet, please share comment and enjoy.
Encoded @320kps (Flac Version is also available)

Blade Runner Ultra Edition
Tracklist

01. Prelude
02. Skin Jobs
03. Growing Slaves
04. Spinner Flight
05. I'm Deckard
06. The Dossier
07. Hannibal Chew
08. Routine Retirement
09. Blade Runner Blues
10. On the Esper
11. Glide Path (New Edit)
12. The Facts Of Life
13. Rachel's Voight Kampff
14. Leaving LA

Compiled By – JETHRO TULL.

2017 JETHRO TULL

MP3 Version here
https://mega.nz/#F!FAMGhS6Q!HcgCcq6MCKHqAKhS_qjcsA

FLAC Version here
https://mega.nz/#F!RR0UwSqA!-dxnPhdtDIB0IURSuYcuUA

Hi All,
...I haven't got around to art work yet, please share comment and enjoy.


It is done :

It is done :


Fantastic!

I composed a cover of the main theme of blade runner. Tried to make it my own a bit and it do a complete copy and paste job. Hope you like it :)

https://youtu.be/3Y1LiRJvANY

...I put together another mix, you may have heard some of this material before here and there, and if sound fx and dialogue is not you bag then this might not be the mix for you. Personally I love the mix like this. In some cases I added my own sound FX to allow me to add different music cues to well known scenes. This took many months work. So this is not just a recording of the movies music cues. The majority of music tracks were 16 bit Flac files. I haven't got around to art work yet, please share comment and enjoy.

It caught me in between lots of things to listen to, but that will be next the first occasion I can sit, relax and enjoying the mix!
I can see it also got a suberb artwork eventually... so what else to expect?

Thanks in advance in the meantime! ;)


I composed a cover of the main theme of blade runner. Tried to make it my own a bit and it do a complete copy and paste job. Hope you like it :)


Where would I do that? Upload a higher quality on on YouTube or just upload the file via sendspace etc?

Mega or SendSpace will do thanks! ;)

[QUOTE=dadadacicici;3672217]It caught me in between lots of things to listen to, but that will be next the first occasion I can sit, relax and enjoying the mix!
I can see it also got a suberb artwork eventually... so what else to expect?

Thanks in advance in the meantime! ;)

I only hope that my mix can live up to great artwork by the JacKc.

Hi All,
I put together another mix, you may have heard some of this material before here and there, and if sound fx and dialogue is not you bag then this might not be the mix for you. Personally I love the mix like this. In some cases I added my own sound FX to allow me to add different music cues to well known scenes. This took many months work. So this is not just a recording of the movies music cues. The majority of music tracks were 16 bit Flac files. I haven't got around to art work yet, please share comment and enjoy.
Encoded @320kps (Flac Version is also available)

Blade Runner Ultra Edition
Tracklist

01. Prelude
02. Skin Jobs
03. Growing Slaves
04. Spinner Flight
05. I'm Deckard
06. The Dossier
07. Hannibal Chew
08. Routine Retirement
09. Blade Runner Blues
10. On the Esper
11. Glide Path (New Edit)
12. The Facts Of Life
13. Rachel's Voight Kampff
14. Leaving LA

Compiled By – JETHRO TULL.

2017 JETHRO TULL

MP3 Version here
https://mega.nz/#F!FAMGhS6Q!HcgCcq6MCKHqAKhS_qjcsA

FLAC Version here
https://mega.nz/#F!RR0UwSqA!-dxnPhdtDIB0IURSuYcuUA

I have now included full size liner notes with info on track sources etc in the download folder

<a href="https://imgur.com/BY0iBt8">

Guys was Vangelis somehow invited to participate on the new BR movie? I am listening to the new soundtrack. It is not bad, it keeps the mood, it just doesn't really bring anything else than that.

Hi All,
I put together another mix, you may have heard some of this material before here and there, and if sound fx and dialogue is not you bag then this might not be the mix for you. Personally I love the mix like this. In some cases I added my own sound FX to allow me to add different music cues to well known scenes. This took many months work. So this is not just a recording of the movies music cues. The majority of music tracks were 16 bit Flac files. I haven't got around to art work yet, please share comment and enjoy.
Encoded @320kps (Flac Version is also available)

Blade Runner Ultra Edition
Tracklist


Thank you! It works like a balsam after the new BR sountrack. I really like the dialogue and the way it is mixed in.

<a href="https://imgur.com/pxakekJ">

Hi All,
Okay here it is, the Ultra Edition now split up into Flac tracks for your listening convenience. (also split up Mp3 version) Again my thanks to JacKc for the great art work, and special thanks to gmxfcks for his time and help splitting the tracks. The track list file now includes time indexes and artists for each track. I have also included liner notes with info on the track sources and edits. For a mix I was planning on keeping to myself I am very happy with the favorable feedback and delighted to share with you guys.
Enjoy my Blade Runner brethren! :)

Flac version here
https://mega.nz/#F!FIFySbzB!_MW8tl9Hr13PYgKeVHuo7w

MP3 version here
https://mega.nz/#F!tVFnGKrK!fN6JVVjXhavDukrIKMlXSQ

"Hi All,
Okay here it is, the Ultra Edition now split up into Flac tracks for your listening convenience. Again my thanks to JacKc for the great art work, and special thanks to gmxfcks for his time and help splitting the tracks. The track list file now includes time indexes and artists for each track. I have also included sleeve notes with info on the track sources and edits. For a mix I was planning on keeping to myself I am very happy with the favorable feedback and delighted to share with you guys.
Enjoy my Blade Runner brethren! :)"

https://mega.nz/#F!tVFnGKrK!fN6JVVjXhavDukrIKMlXSQ[/QUOTE]

thanks, jethro, but the link only directs to the split-files encoded in mp3.

"Hi All,
Okay here it is, the Ultra Edition now split up into Flac tracks for your listening convenience. Again my thanks to JacKc for the great art work, and special thanks to gmxfcks for his time and help splitting the tracks. The track list file now includes time indexes and artists for each track. I have also included sleeve notes with info on the track sources and edits. For a mix I was planning on keeping to myself I am very happy with the favorable feedback and delighted to share with you guys.
Enjoy my Blade Runner brethren! :)"

https://mega.nz/#F!tVFnGKrK!fN6JVVjXhavDukrIKMlXSQ

thanks, jethro, but the link only directs to the split-files encoded in mp3.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that, gmxfcks and I were just discussing that very issue, it was our intention to split up the flac file not the Mp3 one, but we will sort it out shortly. ;)

Just a cue file would do :)
No need to split the physical tracks.
I love it!

Just a cue file would do :)
No need to split the physical tracks.
I love it!

Im sure yo're right but since I have no clue how to do any of that, I have left it in gmxfcks hands, please note I will have a flac version up shortly as the other link is just MP3. Oh and thanks Im glad u like it :)

JT

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"Hi All,
Okay here it is, the Ultra Edition now split up into Flac tracks for your listening convenience. Again my thanks to JacKc for the great art work, and special thanks to gmxfcks for his time and help splitting the tracks. The track list file now includes time indexes and artists for each track. I have also included sleeve notes with info on the track sources and edits. For a mix I was planning on keeping to myself I am very happy with the favorable feedback and delighted to share with you guys.
Enjoy my Blade Runner brethren! :)"

https://mega.nz/#F!tVFnGKrK!fN6JVVjXhavDukrIKMlXSQ

thanks, jethro, but the link only directs to the split-files encoded in mp3.[/QUOTE]

new link now added :)

Thank you jethrotull for gracing us with the Ultra Edition. Will listen to it asap.

Thank you jethrotull for gracing us with the Ultra Edition. Will listen to it asap.

Thank you friend I hope u enjoy it! ;)
JT

anyone got the extended christine ost?

anyone got the extended christine ost?

Sorry but this is a Vangelis thread. Please don't post off-topic. Thanks.

Some nice new Vangelis music from 2017, Cousteau Divers Mini 5: Boiling Ocean https://youtu.be/xBQjV7ZbHw4

Some nice new Vangelis music from 2017, Cousteau Divers Mini 5: Boiling Ocean https://youtu.be/xBQjV7ZbHw4

Very nice music form Vangelis that reminds me a bit of Oceanic and Cousteau https://www.mixcloud.com/centaury37/vangelis-cousteau-2000-ost-suite/

Thanks a lot!!! I was looking for the Tegos Tapes... I only have Vangelis' official music... I didn't know there were sooooo many bootlegs and fanmade music of the gentleman!!! Thanks again and RESPECT!!!

This sounds terrific, very Oceanic like, which I absolutely love as an album. Is there a version without the voice over?

Hi All,

Here is a link to my extended version of the Blade Runner Ultra Edition. There are a few extra tracks and some augmentation to the originals. The tracks were kindly split up by gmxfcks (many thanks) and are in FLAC format, I do have it in MP3 form too. I created new artwork from scratch and I hope you enjoy the listening experience. Feel free to leave feedback or suggestions.

Regards

JT

https://mega.nz/#F!tFVQTIjD!sZGAdc0HXL7uffcN0qWBDQ

<a href="https://imgur.com/rnkGCbF">

Thanks!!!

Interesting vid, "A Train Journey with Vangelis" https://youtu.be/qYpC_n2MP-0

Interesting vid, "A Train Journey with Vangelis" https://youtu.be/qYpC_n2MP-0

Either the guy is driving a train or the video was played backwards! ;)

Music meant to be felt that way... I used to do that... Taking the walkman with me and off to whatever I was meant to go...

<a href="https://imgur.com/pxakekJ">

Hi All,
Okay here it is, the Ultra Edition now split up into Flac tracks for your listening convenience. (also split up Mp3 version) Again my thanks to JacKc for the great art work, and special thanks to gmxfcks for his time and help splitting the tracks. The track list file now includes time indexes and artists for each track. I have also included liner notes with info on the track sources and edits. For a mix I was planning on keeping to myself I am very happy with the favorable feedback and delighted to share with you guys.
Enjoy my Blade Runner brethren! :)

Flac version here
https://mega.nz/#F!FIFySbzB!_MW8tl9Hr13PYgKeVHuo7w

MP3 version here
https://mega.nz/#F!tVFnGKrK!fN6JVVjXhavDukrIKMlXSQ

Been playing this today; this is great! good work and thanks for sharing!

thank you for this

Been playing this today; this is great! good work and thanks for sharing!

Thank you friend! An extended version here if ur interested. ;)
https://mega.nz/#F!tFVQTIjD!sZGAdc0HXL7uffcN0qWBDQ
JT

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thank you for this

Very welcome!
JT

thank you jethrotull

Hi guys, for those of you who use e-ink readers and prefer ebooks
All interviews from elsew.com + some fellas like Michel Geiss & Frederic Rousseau - in one book with pictures.

here the link (https://yadi.sk/d/FHHPe_jE3QwoPe)

I suppose I should need a .fb2 (a.k.a. FictionBook eBook file) reader... which is something new for someone owing an old Nookia...

Any "unpacker" tool to make it into .cbz or .pdf?

dadadacicici, try this:
https://ebook.online-convert.com/

Try Calibre (https://calibre-ebook.com/)for all your e-book needs.

Hello all, I am new to this site.
The Bounty and Live In Paris are ones I have remastered myself and can be found here:
https://archive.org/details/VangelisLiveInParisRemastered
https://archive.org/details/VangelisTheBountyRemastered
A small note about The Bounty, it was taken from a 192KBPS source as the uploader had got rid of the Blu-Ray.

Hello all, I am new to this site. I made an account specifically just to download some stuff, so as a repayment, and a little gift over Christmas, I present you all this: A live Vangelis concert, from 1979 - in Paris. The sound quality is absolutely outstanding

Vangelis - Live In Paris (Remastered) (https://archive.org/details/VangelisLiveInParisRemastered)

More details on the concert can be found on the link/page provided. Covers for printed are also available, and finally, here is its Discogs (https://www.discogs.com/Vangelis-Live-In-Paris-1979/release/10996347) link.

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Does anyone have the 1990 Japanese reissue of Heaven & Hell, which is split into three tracks, Heaven & Hell Pt I, So Long Ago, So Clear, & Heaven & Hell Pt II. It is said to be a superior remaster to any of the others.

This is the back inlay, for reference:




I have all the Japanese, 1990, RCA CD's...

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So happy day! I received the box set earlier than I had anticipated!



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*EARTH*

Listening to *Earth* as I'm typing this and it seems like a legit brand new remaster. It's *NOT* based on the previous 2006 remaster which has quite a bit added reverb. It still sounded good, it was just too much on some tracks. The new master sounds really good. Overall it's mostly the same as the original releases but with a very, very subtle reverb added. It's a really pleasant addition actually to Earth. There are some weird edits however between some tracks I've noticed. Specifically it seems that they've cleaned some of the noise (it's inherent of the tape/recording) between some of the tracks. Now this isn't an issue, but it only applies to the last second of the tracks while the very next track has all the noise left in. So the noise drops very shortly for a second while the song fades out and than when the next track kicks in and the noise is back at the level it was at. It's nothing distracting at all, but I would've personally preferred it if they had just kept the noise between the tracks for a more consistent listening experience.

The guitar and the singing on 'Come On' seem to have been pushed back a bit while the drumming has been pushed forward a bit in the mix. I really like it in all honestly. There are a few drum beats and cymbals which I personally never heard in the previous mix and I'm not sure if they were always there and inaudible, or if they're actually added in. I don't mind them honestly, but I wonder if they were always there but just hidden in the mix and now brought forward. Two specific moments are very obvious, and I'm legit afraid to draw a conclusion. So I'll leave that up to you guys when I get around to uploading them.

Any bad points? Yes sadly there is one negative that I really do mind. Three very distinct clicks at the beginning of 'We Are All Uprooted' which directly follow after the thunder of 'Come On'. I've did a Spectral Frequency comparison and oddly enough they do match a very slight anomaly that the original CD release and even the 2006 remaster has. I guess that they possibly had that originally already fixed and just oversaw it this time because it was never a noticeable problem.


-------------------
*L'APOCALYPSE DES ANIMAUX*

And during the typing of all that I ended up rambling so much that I'm now listening to L'Apocalypse Des Animaux. A lot of added reverb! Not 'Dervish D.' unlistenable amounts, but enough to distract of the experience on the opening track. Not really that bad on the rest of the album however, though I would've liked a completely clean release.The rest sounds as it always has, rather noisy, but same as with Earth, the last few moments of the tracks have some noise removed during the fade out. I get that you can argue for both keeping and removing the noise on this album and that they settled for keeping it, because really half of it basically noise, but I've heard some fan cleaned releases which sound superb! Might as well just go for the original, though I must admit, that outside of possibly negatively affecting the album by cleaning the noise, there's not much that they could have done with this one.


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*CHINA*

As some might already know (or don't know), the original digital release of this album had a fluctuating volume throughout the entire album ever so slightly. Most probably never picked up on it, but it's most certainly there. This is completely gone! Other than the glitch there's very little to note about this album. Some reverb on two or three tracks, but most have been left as they always were. I don't have the most experience with this album, but I'd say it sounds better than it has ever done! Very little to add actually.


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*OPERA SAUVAGE*

My personal favorite Vangelis album and am most pleased to note that only one slight edit has been applied to the entire album. It's a bit louder (as you'd expect by 2017), but it never goes past the 0db and sounds absolutely terrific! The very high sounds perfect now and the overall mix just feels absolutely solid, it's a bit brighter and more solid I'd say. No added effects, no reverbs no nothing! The edit I mentioned is a small cut in 'Flamants Roses', around the 3.37 mark a few seconds of mostly silence has been removed. While the pure silence removal is just fine, the track does flow more naturally now going from the one section into the other (something I always felt was a bit weird and should've been two tracks anyway), it is unfortunate that two notes edited out as well as a consequence of the track flowing more naturally now.


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*SEE YOU LATER*

If there's one album you don't need to ask my opinion about it's this one. I have it on vinyl, which I love and used to spin on very seldom occasion. However what I've heard some of it on CD, and remember it as a bit of a mixed bag. But I can't be absolutely honest because like I said, I only have it on vinyl. The good news is that this album sounds absolutely terrific in the new remaster. The disappointing news is that the reverb comes and goes with the track. 'Memories of Green' seems to be the only track on the album that doesn't have added reverb. The rest has added reverb ranging from being subtle, to outright destroying a track. It's really distracting on 'Multi-Track Suggestion' and utterly destroys 'Not a Bit - All of It'. There are a couple of beeps throughout the track, that just do not work with the reverb. The whole beep sound needs to be a very solid beep, it really destroys when it lasts longer then it should. Also the "Obviously" at the end of the track is removed, which is kind of the punchline of the whole track. It does sound better overall in terms of transfer, which is a given considering the new scanning technology, but it's a shame that the album suffers quite a bit under the new reverb.

Also I have to mention that the inclusion of: Neighbours Above, My Love and Domestic Love 1 are absolutely terrific! They unfortunately also have some reverb added, but hearing them finally digitally straight from the source instead of a terrible and compressed rip is wonderful!

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*CHARIOTS OF FIRE*

Remember the 2006 remaster of the album that was pretty much perfect? Yup here's another that that's pretty much like that. Perfect.


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*ANTARTICA*

Another personal favorite of mine and unfortunately, it's not without it's flaws. There's one change made to the album, and that's an edited fade-out in 'Life of Antartica'. There's a reprise of the opening track at the end of the track, however the fade out doesn't completely fade out. There's a short while where the album still plays the music, but it's barely audible. So this is now changed a bit with the near completely silence edited out and the actual fade out actually completely fading out. A small edit that doesn't affect anything negatively.

However I did notice unfortunately a couple of very minor audio drops in 'Theme of Antartica' and in another one. This was never an issue before, so I don't know what caused this. But it's a shame that this passed inspection, though I doubt that Vangelis did give his seal of approval on this actual disc. I wonder if these drops are also on the digital releases of these new remasters. Could potentially be a pressing error.


-------------------
*SOIL FESTIVITIES*

Another almost perfect remaster! It sounds a bit fuller and more well balanced, specifically the somewhat pitchy highs across the album are now perfectly equalized. One edit has taken place however, the ending of 'Movement One' is cut way short. Originally it had over a minute and a half of ambient rain/thunder noise. This has been shorted by just under a minute.


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*MASK*

Another remaster that's nearly perfect. Unfortunately I noticed two very minor drops in 'Movement One' one minute and five/eight seconds in. These two are the only audio drops I've noticed. And same goes for Antartica, it's a perfect remaster outside of this very minute issue, and could potentially just be a pressing error. A digital copy is needed for a comparison.


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*JON AND VANGELIS*

The actual transfers are absolutely excellent as is the sound quality. However unfortunately the reverb comes and go's between the tracks with the absolute worst (and in personal opinion only true offender) being 'And When the Night Comes' where the reverb utterly destroys it. Most of the tracks have it very subtly and sound terrific! The Friends of Mr. Cairo is gorgeous!


-------------------



So all I have left are the three Jon and Vangelis albums. In case anyone wonders what the DR values of the albums are. I've added them to the Dynamic Range Database (http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=vangelis&album=)).


Thought i'd just note that those clicks at the start of We Were All Uprooted were clicks from vinyl. The thunder sound you are hearing is actually from a sample sounds LP and the clicks are 90% to my knowledge, vinyl pops. I have heard this exact same thunder sound effect used on a song I cannot recall, but when I heard it, it was identical to the one used on the Vangelis song mentioned just. That's not actually a mastering/mixing error ;)




Vangelis - Live In Paris (Remastered) (https://archive.org/details/VangelisLiveInParisRemastered)



Vangelis - The Bounty (Remastered) (https://archive.org/details/VangelisTheBountyRemastered)



Jon And Vangelis - 1986 Demos (Remastered) (https://archive.org/details/JonAndVangelis1986Demos)

Oh, and there is also a quite comprehensive Bounty releases collection a few pages back! (Thread 94478)

Well done on the remasters. And all relative infos are there for a change... fine good job sir! ;)

That's the spirit! :)

Thanks very much, I appreciate it. One day, I shall re-do The Bounty, but in true lossless form. I also want to re-do the Jon And Vangelis demos, but for now, I saw someone's comment on the When The Night Comes 7'' that is an alternate mix, so I bought a NM/M copy the other day, just copying it over now.

Do you have any ideas, where (or how) can I get Andromeda bootleg. There are lots of "new releases" like this: http://www.vangelis-rarities.com/index.php?methode=methode1&id=216 the first two titles sound very interesting...

There's a contact address on the bottom of the page. You might want to try that. Good luck! :)

I'm really curious what exactly are Adventure Ocean and Melody TV Show 1/2.

I'm really curious what exactly are Adventure Ocean and Melody TV Show 1/2.

"Melody TV show (Part 1)" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGCRwTOo05s)

"Melody TV show (Part 2)" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZKJ6zkhpE0)

In March 1993 various channels around Europe aired "Adventure Ocean" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB6lp5TCcQE), Jacques Cousteau's underwater ocean odyssey series with a sound-track written the year before by Vangelis in the wide-screen style of "The Bounty".

I cannot be sure if the music on the latter is the one included on the release in question though...

Great thanks! And... In that first clip, I'm not crazy, but that's The Dragon. I never knew Vangelis officially acknowledged that album outside of the sessions and the lawsuit against the unofficial vinyl release. That's really cool!

Also, I'm not stoned enough to watch those two clips. What a visuals, lord...

<a target='_blank' href='http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/adromedacompletefront.jpg/'><img src='' border='0'/></a>

Disc 1

01. Main Titles 2.01
02. Assisi 1226 1.13
03. The Beginnings Of Francesco2.45
04. Leaving All 0.54
05. Winds Of Death 1.15
06. A Message Of Justice 2.31
07. Chiara's Charity 1.28
08. The Advenimient Of A Vocation 7.52
09. The Embraced Of A Different Life 1.01
10. The Life Of A Beggar 1.48
11. Tears For A Little Soul (Part I) 3.30
12. Flute Of Hope 1.09
13. Silence Of The Night 0.47
14. Blessed Be The Lord 2.17
15. Take The Cross And Follow Me 0.45
16. Sharing With The Poorest2.10
17. The Meaning Of Fraternity 1.27
18. The Gift Of God2.39
19. Another Son Of Charity 1.20
20. Tears For A Little Soul (Part II)2.52

Disc 2

21. Chiara, Pilgrim Of The World 4.31
22. Prosecution To The New Faith 1.55
23. A Vow To God1.33
24. Following The Footprints Of Christ 2.53
25. 'Novae Gratie Verbum' (The Word Of A New Grace) 3.39
26. Peace Is Everything 2.39
27. Blessed Are The Poors And Lepers 3.00
28. Bells Of Assisi2.39
29. Pray For Us 3.01
30. The Rain Of Leper 1.15
31. The True Is In The Gospel 2.23
32. The Wind Of Eternity 4.13
33. A Soul Walking To Heaven2.34
34. 'Deus Mihi Dixit' (God Spoke To Me) 4.56
35. The Doors Of Heaven 1.16
36. End Titles 7.27

http://www.mediafire.com/?49t6z5jido91cek
http://www.mediafire.com/?d2kg83j86b54pgh
http://www.mediafire.com/?i9k69yiv2uvnb00

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Informations :

Original Music Composed and Performed by Vangelis in 1989.
This is a special limited edition release and is not licensed for public sale.
Copyright 01-2002 Andromeda Music Ltd. All rights reserved.
This version contains minor Fx but no dialog.

http://www.anunna.net/vangelis-rarities/newsite.php?methode=methode1&id=57

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Storyline :

Francesco (1989) - Director: Liliana Cavani

The life of St. Francis of Assisi (1181-1226) as related by followers who gather after his death to tell stories so that Leone can record them: a privileged and virile youth, a prisoner of war, an heir who turns away from his father and gives all to the poor, a beggar for others, and an inspiration to friends who accept the Gospels' life of poverty. He seeks the Pope's blessing, and he endures persecution at the hands of the family of Chiara Offreduccio (1194-1253), who becomes St. Clare. Many join the order he has established and then rebel at his expectations. In near despair - and ill - he writes a Rule to take to the Pope; then, the Lord sends him a message. He dies smiling.

Written by jhailey

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097383/

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Notes :

I'm guessing this double AM0103 must be a more limited and expanded version of the single AM0102 release. Such a pity none of those 50 collectors ever shared a decent encoding of it.
Surely on the black market copies are easy to obtain at quite affordable prices, but it is hard to tell a lossy cd when the source must have been not so good to start with and nothing that good so to compare with.

Needless to remind to decompress to WAV first (preferred). Cue sheet with CD-Text info is included (suggested). Burn at 4x speed (always) with no pause between tracks otherwise.

Be responsible in giving back what you had for free. Consider sharing back what was shared of old if you care. We are only left with what we share eventually. The more accurately (read properly) the better for the peers-to-be.

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Pass = the initials of first and last name of the movie's director, but written as one word and using only lower-case characters

Hello, Could you please re-upload this?
It would be fantastic!
Many thanks in advance!

Thanks to all of you uploaders!!!!

I had many film scores by the great Vangelis, but in low resolution (128 &160). Now I could finally upgrade to a higher quality level! Plus some additions to my collection of film scores.

Thanks again!

Hello, Could you please re-upload this?
It would be fantastic!
Many thanks in advance!

That was nuked because it was sourced from low quality mpeg's LIKE MOST BOOTLEGS BOUGHT AND SOLD ON EBAY. Sorry. :(

Here's a scene for you fans uploaded from the film Antarctica with a track that should have but was never released on the original album and for those of you that never saw the film here's the scene with the unreleased music and how it worked in the film https://youtu.be/hPcF4Hp-f2w

Was the film ever given a blu-ray release? I've been interested in getting it for years now, but can't find much, if anything, about the film :(

Yes, it was released on Blu-ray in Japan

"can't find much, if anything, about the film".

Can't find much ? Just type in google, "Antarctica 1983" but not on a mobile phone. In order to find something about anything you've got to do a little research love but If you like I can save you all that time, years of worry and upload you the bluray rip so you can click a little button to download it for free :)

...If you like I can save you all that time, years of worry and upload you the bluray rip so you can click a little button to download it for free :)

I am interested in that rip if it contains the ac3 file for the 5.1 track!

I didn't mean an actual nothing, but years ago I was looking for a DVD copy that supposedly had English subs but I couldn't find it anywhere. The blu-ray is the same, can't find it anywhere for a decent price or with English subs. I did find a French version, but it was bloody expensive. Which is really disappointing since the film is terrific. But I'd very much appreciate it if you could rip the film with complete soundtrack! :)

I actually have the Hong Kong DVD with DTS sound (and chinese+english subtitle). All that ever came out of this was the Deckard's Dream track for my November 2011 edition (Thread 97770) of Blade Runner.

The problem with the blu-ray is that the sound really lacks the upper part of the spectrum. It is quite muffled and to date the only good version is the double japanese dvd version as Sinus has pointed out.
But since it was not meant to be in surround forget to get anything interesting out of it unless you can get along with the film dialogue and the dogs barking.

There were two different edits of the movie. The international version that you all know and the italian dub which used different edits of the music and a couple of unreleased cues in place of the ones used in the international cut.
Notably when they reissued the italian version on dvd it had speed and pitch issues. Master gone bad during the years most likely. VHS version was way better and cleaner.
Again more of the film dialogue and the dogs barking.

So it is pretty useless for every type of restoration.

Thanks DC for the in-depth clarification: One more point: I had the Japanese DVD, too. But the only usable material indeed stems from the DTS stream of the Hong Kong DVD.
I had to sew two appeareances of "Deckards Dream" in the movie together in order to get a clean version. I still have a kind-of master of this multichannel-material. If someone's interested, drop me a line.

I had the impression it was turned into DTS from a stereo or mono source...

Sure, it hasn't been DTS when originally released in 1983.

It's hard to say ...
- with which audio format it was released theatrically
- if, which surviving audio elements were used (and how) for the DTS stream.
- else, if it is just an up-mix from stereo/mono

:)

But, the DTS stream sounds good to me.

It did sound all right indeed! :)

It is just that I was expecting the same treats of the Blade Runner soundtrack on that... but I was sadly let down... :(

All we have are the maimed Arkham and the Off World lost in some backup... and all of them in lossy format.

https://mega.nz/#!V54mxYYI!Ilv7aK4Xy6jvxeZVSSst7SQS1ZRBxDaSW16cS66AXgQ

Here's Antarctica 1983 720p BluRay DTS x264. Probably best watched on vlc media player.
One slight but interesting thing is that if you skip to 2:22:34 you'll hear a slight variation/mix
on the Antarctica theme (end titles) but unfortunately it fades out (like the bounty dvd). These film
people are so cruel to their fans !!! :)

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Also here's the track I linked earlier ripped from the surround, best I could do but it's worth it. I'm currently working on doing all the music from the above bluray and will post it when finished but it will be similar quality to this with echo sound effects https://mega.nz/#!Z15AXYyA!Q_QrLeBex0KkeU_AGS03uzgIuIZAzbr75z-nnqHfky8

I'm currently working on doing all the music from the above bluray and will post it when finished...

If you ever need a rip off the italian version of the movie that did use different mixes and a couple of unreleased cues compared to the original japanese version drop a PM! ;)
Perhaps it will be as complete as it might ever get...

If you ever need a rip off the italian version of the movie that did use different mixes and a couple of unreleased cues compared to the original japanese version drop a PM! ;)
Perhaps it will be as complete as it might ever get...

Cheers I've pm'd you, thanks ! :) Ps and still playing around with lounge Lizard.

This is Vangelis. I really beg for the day I can buy this on cd. https://youtu.be/Bfs5OR3tbX4

The amount of unreleased (clean) music for 1492 is outright frustrating.

The amount of unreleased (clean) music for 1492 is outright frustrating.

Such is the life of a Vangelis fan.

南極物語 — Nankyoku Monogatari


The film was released in different cuts.
The most common one is the edition of 143 minutes in length. This seems to be the theatrical Japanese version.
Another interesting cut is the Italian 91-minute version, which is said to use music different to the longer, Japanese cut.
Then there is a US (?) cut of 112 minutes which is only available on VHS.




Japanese DVD (2001)
This was accompanied by an extra DVD containing making-of and other extras.
There exists an almost identical version of this DVD bearing the same catalogue number (PCBC-50118) which supposedly has DTS sound and English + Mandarin subtitles. Maybe someone fluid in the Japanese language can decypher the product packaging (https://www.amazon.co.jp/ANTARCTICA-Region-Takakura-Koreyoshi-Kurahara/dp/B00142GL24) and clarify ...

aspect ratio: 1.78:1 (16:9)
duration: 143 minutes
audio: Japanese AC3 5.1 and stereo
subtitles: Japanese



Hong Kong DVD (2006)
One of the more interesting features of this edition are the english subtitles which cannot be found on any other physical releases (? see above). They're coupled with chinese subtitles, so you have two written languages at a time on-screen.
The other interesting thing is the premiere (? see above) of a DTS soundtrack.
The image is sort-of open-matte. In comparison to the BluRay, there is more picture information on top and bottom (expanding to 16:9) and even on the left. There is, of course, less sharpness than on the BluRay but also less contrast. The colours seem a little more natural than on the BluRay.

aspect ratio: 1.78:1 (16:9)
duration: 143 minutes
audio: Japanese DTS 5.1, Japanese Dolby Digital 5.1, Cantonese AC3 stereo
subtitles: traditional Chinese + English combined, simplified Chinese, traditional Chinese



Italian DVD (2013/2015)
This one seems to contain different music according to Vangelis Collector (http://vangeliscollector.com/movies_antarctica.htm).
DC says (Thread 94478) that the VHS sounds better than the DVD. But the warbled sound of the VHS is hardly usable. I find the opposite to be true.

aspect ratio: 1.78:1 (16:9)
duration: 91 minutes
audio: Italian AC3 5.1 and stereo
subtitles: Italian



Japanese BluRay disc (2013)
Cannot say if this is the same master as on the 2001 DVD.
It has the best image quality available.

aspect ratio: 1.85:1 (original!)
duration: 143 minutes
audio: Japanese DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and PCM stereo
subtitles: Japanese



French BluRay disc (2015)
It seems to use the same master as the Japanese BluRay but presents it with some flaws: The aspect ratio is a little bit narrower (cutting some pixels left and right). Also the compression has flaws which sometimes shows.
Also released on DVD (with PAL speed-up: 137 minutes) and as video-on-demand.

aspect ratio: 1.84:1 (very close to original)
duration: 143 minutes
audio: Japanese DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and stereo
subtitles: French



For comparisons of the image quality, go to caps-a-holic.com (http://caps-a-holic.com/c_list.php?c=3192).

Thanks to poltergiest2, we have a good quality version of the movie with english SRT subtitles.
From that version I extracted the DTS stream (which should be the DTS core of the BluRay) and compared it to the DTS stream of the Hong Kong DVD. I must say that the HK DVD sounds a little clearer and is more dynamic. (So, I'd say, DC was right (Thread 94478).) Sadly, I'm not in possession of 1080p material and the DTS-HD Master Audio stream. Would be interesting to compare this one, too.


I hope this helps you people in your endeavours and if you need the Hong Kong DTS stream, drop me a line.

Woods with Vangelis :) https://youtu.be/LPwDtIJ6x_I

南極物語 � Nankyoku Monogatari


The film was released in different cuts.
The most common one is the edition of 143 minutes in length. This seems to be the theatrical Japanese version.
Another interesting cut is the Italian 91-minute version, which is said to use music different to the longer, Japanese cut.
Then there is a US (?) cut of 112 minutes which is only available on VHS.




Japanese DVD (2001)
This was accompanied by an extra DVD containing making-of and other extras.
There exists an almost identical version of this DVD bearing the same catalogue number (PCBC-50118) which supposedly has DTS sound and English + Mandarin subtitles. Maybe someone fluid in the Japanese language can decypher the product packaging (https://www.amazon.co.jp/ANTARCTICA-Region-Takakura-Koreyoshi-Kurahara/dp/B00142GL24) and clarify ...

aspect ratio: 1.78:1 (16:9)
duration: 143 minutes
audio: Japanese AC3 5.1 and stereo
subtitles: Japanese



Hong Kong DVD (2006)
One of the more interesting features of this edition are the english subtitles which cannot be found on any other physical releases (? see above). They're coupled with chinese subtitles, so you have two written languages at a time on-screen.
The other interesting thing is the premiere (? see above) of a DTS soundtrack.
The image is sort-of open-matte. In comparison to the BluRay, there is more picture information on top and bottom (expanding to 16:9) and even on the left. There is, of course, less sharpness than on the BluRay but also less contrast. The colours seem a little more natural than on the BluRay.

aspect ratio: 1.78:1 (16:9)
duration: 143 minutes
audio: Japanese DTS 5.1, Japanese Dolby Digital 5.1, Cantonese AC3 stereo
subtitles: traditional Chinese + English combined, simplified Chinese, traditional Chinese



Italian DVD (2013/2015)
This one seems to contain different music according to Vangelis Collector (http://vangeliscollector.com/movies_antarctica.htm).
DC says (Thread 94478) that the VHS sounds better than the DVD. But the warbled sound of the VHS is hardly usable. I find the opposite to be true.

aspect ratio: 1.78:1 (16:9)
duration: 91 minutes
audio: Italian AC3 5.1 and stereo
subtitles: Italian



Japanese BluRay disc (2013)
Cannot say if this is the same master as on the 2001 DVD.
It has the best image quality available.

aspect ratio: 1.85:1 (original!)
duration: 143 minutes
audio: Japanese DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and PCM stereo
subtitles: Japanese



French BluRay disc (2015)
It seems to use the same master as the Japanese BluRay but presents it with some flaws: The aspect ratio is a little bit narrower (cutting some pixels left and right). Also the compression has flaws which sometimes shows.
Also released on DVD (with PAL speed-up: 137 minutes) and as video-on-demand.

aspect ratio: 1.84:1 (very close to original)
duration: 143 minutes
audio: Japanese DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 and stereo
subtitles: French



For comparisons of the image quality, go to caps-a-holic.com (http://caps-a-holic.com/c_list.php?c=3192).

Thanks to poltergiest2, we have a good quality version of the movie with english SRT subtitles.
From that version I extracted the DTS stream (which should be the DTS core of the BluRay) and compared it to the DTS stream of the Hong Kong DVD. I must say that the HK DVD sounds a little clearer and is more dynamic. (So, I'd say, DC was right (Thread 94478).) Sadly, I'm not in possession of 1080p material and the DTS-HD Master Audio stream. Would be interesting to compare this one, too.


I hope this helps you people in your endeavours and if you need the Hong Kong DTS stream, drop me a line.


Thank you, gosh you people should have a degree in this :)

You can never do Vangelis justice enough for this track but here is my poor effort https://youtu.be/aYi9kbnL7hU

Does Vangelis's best music just exist in small films or.... https://youtu.be/d87-4bc7v2Y

You can never do Vangelis justice enough for this track but here is my poor effort https://youtu.be/aYi9kbnL7hU

The vibe is there though... vintage instruments would have made the comparison a bit harder really...
I'd say you did make Vangelis some justice! ;)


Does Vangelis's best music just exist in small films or.... https://youtu.be/d87-4bc7v2Y

Sad but true. But also the opposite is true I'm afraid.
Most of what the man wrote is pretty ace anyway! :)

New Vangelis music is released today on CD for those attending Stephen Hawking's interment at Westminster Abbey. More information can be found Elsewhere: http://elsew.com/data/latest.htm

New Vangelis music is released today on CD for those attending Stephen Hawking's interment at Westminster Abbey. More information can be found Elsewhere: http://elsew.com/data/latest.htm

Hi Guys
If anyone's feeling generous eBay has one copy showing:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Stephen-Hawking-Tribute-by-Vangelis/253690874389?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
One can only hope whoever wins it, feels like sharing, but as the only track on it runs at just over 6 mins I'm not holding my breath as its already at 80 UKP with one day and 6 hours left. :(

The piece of music lasts 6 minutes and 21 seconds, with Vangelis performing his synthesizers, joined by Dimitris Tsakas on alto sax and engineered by Philippe Colonna. It's a beautiful gentle piece, refrained and majestic at the same time. Part of it is overlayed by words from Stephen Hawking himself, in his recognizable computer generated voice.