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Pass:modshare

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What's wrong?

Well for starters, We can't seem to open any of the files. I tried opening the first file in the set with WinRAR & the program said that the archive is corrupt.

What program did you use to compress this soundtrack?

Thanks

ALSO, can anyone verify the losslessness of this? I am skeptical of that......

Did you download all of them before extracting them?
If the files did not downloaded completely, it would be considered as corrupted as well.
I'll try it as well. But you could find the way to extract these files in the thread "Legends of the Fall"

Never mind. I found out what the problem is. You need to download HJSplit (google it) to join the files into one archive & unzip as normal.

I use 7z to zip them. It's a free program and very helpful.

Hmmm. Sounds complicated.

7z is just an archiving application, like WinRar. Not too uncommon.

Can someone re upload this is an easy to configure and open format please?

I think you can simply use 7z to open it. 7z is a really simple freeware.

I'm more interested in a tracklist to be honest. Thanks!

Sorry, the files I optained had no track list. But I can tell you that it contain material I have never seen in others bootleg.

Every time I click on a file host, it opens a duplicate of the same filedeck window. Maybe it's because I'm using the new Firefox 4, I don't know.

Sorry, the files I obtained had no track list. But I can tell you that it contain material I have never seen in others bootleg.

The definitive recording sessions posted by williamtaylor last year contain the complete score, including the captain's logs, as well a third disc of bonus and alt material @ 320. I have no idea what could be new hear, as the score itself on will's was totally complete.

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I can get it downloaded, but nothing will open it, not winrar, not 7zip. They all say it is corrupt. Please post these in an accessable format?

Actually, a few of the cues on the 3 cd set, though at 320, were actually taken from a low bit rate originally, as evidenced by the hiss etc. This is why I'm curious about this set. If the "lossless" claim is true then we may have gold here. I will wait for confirmation from someone. I'm not saying you are not sincere ManofDestiny. Just not letting my hopes to high that's all.

He's certainly making the case for Slsk and why it's so vastly superior!

:D

(and I'm not kidding, it IS so vastly superior)

What the hell is "The Force Field" doing stuck between "Main Title" and "Klingon Battle"
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8020/thinkingk.gif

Sooo, what's the verdict then? Is this looking good (despite the track muddle up)? Could the be a Star Trek "holy grail"?

Well, my only tool is Audio checker, so it s the only thing I can use.
I am posting a check result to you. And if you had a better way to check, please help me to check it.
Please help me to find if it is a fake.

I'm pretty sure that it is not so complete, only the score in the movie, some alternate and unrealeased cue. Because it had only 2CD, and the complete had 3CD.
But if it is true lossless, than we at lease had a complete score contain of the film.

here is the check result:

Started at: 星期六, 07. 05. 2011. - 17:15.12
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Error while extracting! Check your rights, free some space if needed and ensure the file is valid.

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Finished at: 星期六, 07. 05. 2011. - 17:29.59 (operation time: 0:14.46)

Well, that looks hopeful!

Why do some of these tracks sound muddy?

Oh no! No good by the sound of it!

*sigh*

In no particular order...

1) Hiss does not suggest low bitrate or fake lossless. Hiss suggests an Analogue source; is anybody surprised that a bootleg edition of a thirty year-old score will not feature absolutely pristine digital sound?

2) 7z is not complicated and neither is HJSplit. (Though I prefer CheshireCat's Joiner to HJSplit - it's faster and more automated.) It's as near as dammit to being a ubiquitous standard, a la RAR and ZIP. It takes five seconds to download, five seconds to install, and ten seconds to learn how to use it. Why on earth would you expect somebody else to waste their effort and internet connection uploading all this stuff again because you can't be bothered to spend twenty seconds of your life learning how to do a new thing?

3) A lossless copy of the scoring sessons has been floating around for more than a decade. I downloaded it separately (replacing my old 320kbps copy from Soulseek) last year and I suspect this is the same version. Years ago when the score was originally bootlegged, it was pressed to CD and that CD is pretty much impossible to find today. The version I had was a FLAC rip of that CD. Assuming this is the same (I'm not downloading it again just to compare it) then it *is* lossless as anybody should be able to tell by listening to it.

4) The sound quality on this set is a *little* variable, but it's still a f**king MIRACLE for a 1970s score. There are bootlegs from the 90s that sound worse than this, and there are commercial CDs which sound worse than this. Lossless means it's an accurate representation of what was recorded. The source material - being obtained illegally from a thirty year-old source - is not going to be completely 100% flawlessly perfect and nobody should expect it to be. It does, however, sound bloody excellent.

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That's the cover for the version I have. Disc one is 21 tracks, Disc 2 is 18 tracks. Does that match up? Hope it helps somebody.

I think Force Field is in track 2 because it was recorded in that order. Don't forget that the scoring sessions for TMP were a rushed mess because of last-second changes.

Thanks Tango. That is not the set William posted, I think. Unless he has a set that was re-ordered and cut, because his had all the tracks in film order, includding the captain's logs, and the jumps to warp speed. Plus a bonus disc of alt cues. Though not in lossless, William's is a more complete set.

I think Force Field is in track 2 because it was recorded in that order. Don't forget that the scoring sessions for TMP were a rushed mess because of last-second changes.

Ah, yes, that would make perfect sense.

Many thanks, ManofDestiny! :) :)

@tangotreats: Cheers for the info :) Haven't listened yet but D1 is 21 tracks, D2 is 17 (not 18 like yours).

I have the three disc set floating around too, but not in lossless. From what I remember, there's not much of consequence on the third disc; just stingers and links as Babydoll said. No great loss. :)

Third disc is mostly alternate takes. Three versions of the Klingon attack theme...three different tempos. The alt versions of Enterprise, and leaving drydock, all that jazz. I actually will probably delete it, since i listened to it. For me, alts are not really keepers. Just of mild interest....

Twenty takes of the same piece of music I can do without.

The two disc set is fine. It has the alternative themes prior to the rescore, and the (more or less) complete film as played in the film in addition. That'll do me nicely. :)

I have compared this side by side to William1969's copy, and I have to say that most of the tracks on his sound much better. Plus his has the third CD on it. While there are three Klingon scores, I like all the extra stuff that we would not get to hear, if left up to the studios and the suits!

Thanx, Bob

Thank you very much, ManofDestiny. This is most welcome.

Nice share. Thanks a lot for this.

Thanks for taking the time to share this with us...it's greatly appreciated

Brilliant score and great share. I have wanted a complete official release ever since 1979, but thanks to the great shares here, it may not be necessary even if it ever happens.

Thanks for the share but one question? A digital copy of an analog recording???
Is that possible?

This version link (http://benuits-itsonlyapapermoon.blogspot.com/2008/06/star-trek-motion-picture-complete.html) is the best i know.
18/17/20 tracks
320 kbps

Of course. You take an analog recording and transfer it to a digital medium. (As is the case in all CDs from which the source was analogue tape or vinyl.)

If I transfer a tape to a digital format and I compress it with a lossless compression system, that is a lossless recording - in the sense that it is a 100% accurate representation of the source transfer. It's not a 100% accurate representation of the source any more than a CD recording is a 100% accurate representation of people playing musical instruments. Analog is vague. Every time you play back a tape you get a infinitesimally different reproduction; because analog doesn't have "yes" and "no" like digital does; it has an infinite number of variations of "maybe". ;)

That's why people love tape and also why they hate it. Digital recordings are cleaner, of course, but analog recordings have more in common with real life - which is random, vague, messy, alive.

Music recording of any kind, by its very nature, is lossy in the sense that it does not and cannot preserve 100% of the real life sounds that it recorded. It is a pretty good approximation, but that's about it. It is no more "lossless" than a photograph of your mother is your mother.

Sorry, going off on a tangent here.

Peace, folks :)
TT

Brilliant score and great share. I have wanted a complete official release ever since 1979, but thanks to the great shares here, it may not be necessary even if it ever happens.

This is NOT a complete score...not even close.

@ Benuit....yea the version you linked to is complete. It is the version first posted here by WilliamTaylor.

My favorite/favourite score of all time. Now in lossless! THANKS!

This is NOT a complete score...not even close.

If it contains all of the score, then is it not the complete score?

Well, it is the most complete, SO FAR! I don't know where I got mine, some studio source, if memory serves.

William

If I may ask, when will the link on the blog post be back up?

Thanks

If it contains all of the score, then is it not the complete score?

Well, that is my point. This lossless set does not contain the entire score, it is missing a few bits. Which the set Benuit and William linked to contains, but the complete set is lossy. Dig?

Seems you can have one or the other. Lossless, but not complete. Complete, but lossy....

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These cues are on William and Benuit's edition, but NOT on the lossless set provided here:

Transporter Malfunction: Played during the aftermath of the incident, when Kirk tries to comfort Rand

Crew Briefing: plays during the crew briefing in the rec-deck

Destruction of Epsilon 9: continuation of the briefing scene, when Epsilon was destroyed live on screen

pre-launch: quick cue played after the crew briefing, when Kirk enters into the log things such as last minute crew replacements

Stardate 7412.6: The first of the captain's logs, contains orchestration of the original Trek theme

Warp .8: played during the build up to the first attempt to go to warp, ends abruptly when the wormhole forms. (the wormhole scene is unscored)

No Goodbyes: played in the scene after the wormhole, but before Spock's arrival. It is the scene with Decker and Ilia

Stardate 7413.4/warp .9: plays during the scene of Kirk's log entry just after Spock's arrival, through the second warp attempt, and the triumphant fanfare of successfully passing warp 1

Stardate 7414.1: Plays over a captain's log inside the cloud. Essentially the same as the first log cue.

Also, the lossy set has the cue Red Alert, which is the arrival at the cloud...it is also called "Meet V'ger" on some sets, and I am not sure it is in the lossless set.

If I may ask, when will the link on the blog post be back up?

Thanks

You can go over to my "Official" Star Trek thread and get the link there!

William

Found it William, thanks.

More thanks from me too for this...

If I have the choise between lossless highlights of a score, or the full in lossy, I'd take the lossless highlights every time.

I couldn't find William's lossless version (the link in the first post is to various MP3 versions). Does anyone still have this, please? :)

William did not post lossless. ManofDestiny posted lossless, on the first page. It is not complete, but is lossless. William posted a complete score, but only mp3. Gotta pick....:D

William did not post lossless. ManofDestiny posted lossless, on the first page. It is not complete, but is lossless. William posted a complete score, but only mp3. Gotta pick....:D

I have somebody's edit, which has those cues in lossless.

Post? I doubt thet are true lossless though. Probably a transcode. But hey, post it, it would be great if they were.

Here they are, MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6RIIHXU4)

Ah, I completely misread, sorry. Thanks, babydoll!

ManofDestiny, thanks for the share!

That's the cover for the version I have. Disc one is 21 tracks, Disc 2 is 18 tracks. Does that match up? Hope it helps somebody.

Thanks for posting that cover. It seems it's this version indeed, except disc 2 has 17 tracks, and has either track 11 or 12, "Main Title", left out.

I agree - again, many thanks ManofDestiny! :)

I may be new to this board but in the last two weeks I did an expanded version for myself. But first of all I�d like to write about my findings about these recording sessions and some other tracks. It�s interesting what you can discover when you�re attempting to remaster a crappy source like this one. Well, here it goes:

The tracks "Stardate 7412.6", "Warp .8", "Stardate 7413.4/warp .9", "Stardate 7414.1" which can be found on some of the "complete" releases seem to come from the movie itself, either cleverly edited or extracted, I don�t know how. I tried to do the same but was unsucessful. On three of them you can hear background noises from the Enterprise-bridge during low volume sequences. Furthermore, even in their lossless state there is nothing happening beyond 12 kHz (even mp3 reaches 16 kHz) so they very well can be treated as lossy. Even worse, they were de-noised with a crappy de-noiser. Giveaways: flanging effects that normally can be found in bad lossy encoders. Here they are caused by badly configured de-noising but it still sounds like shit if I may say so. The archive with the additional lossless tracks that was posted here a few days ago is also mostly lossy quality - nothing happening beyond 12 kHz.

Now to the truly lossless versions: I don�t know where I got this but I have a version here that has every other track that is known so far in lossless quality.

Where does this lossless version come from? Well, it comes from several cassette tapes. The strong noise is a giveaway, also the azimuth problems. Even worse, the cassettes have been stored at a hot place (probably in a car during summer) so the tape itself has bended - now the tape slides uncontrollably over the head at times. This is very noticable. The tapes itself were recorded from the analogue mastertapes. As one may know, Star Trek was recording with three different techniques: analogue tape, on optical film and on digital tape. For the cassette bootleg the analogue tape was used as a source. Some tracks (for example "A good Start") have the same errors as the one on the official CD from 1998. Anyway, these tapes were recorded with a soundcard and therefore transferred to the PC. These transfers subsequently leaked.

I used these transfers to create my own version. For years, I desperately wanted to "remaster" them. But every de-noising attempt failed miserably, the noise is just too high. But three weeks ago I finally figured out what has been wrong all the time and what no one had figured out till then: the cassette tapes used to make these transfers were encoded with Dolby Noise Reduction! I don�t know if many people around still know Dolby as a noise reduction system (that�s how they came into prominence), just let me tell you this much: a Dolby-encoded tapes needs to be decoded with Dolby again. If it is not decoded then you�ll have the sound of the Star-Trek-boot. Now that I knew this I also knew how to do an improved version.

In short, I created a remastered version. Before you get your hopes up: it doesn�t sound that good, the official CD still sounds much much better. The bootleg tracks still have some fast wow-and-flutter and still sound a bit awkward. But the noise is almost completely gone and the overall sound is much closer to the officially released stuff. I also corrected the frequency response and the stereo separation, did a lot of editing, hell, I even ended up restoring the original dynamic (difference between low and loud volumes) by hand for every bootleg-based track since this had been compromised by the tape transfer. The overall frequency response is now much closer to the already released tracks. Completely off were the alternate tracks with the early version of the main theme: they sounded horrible, as if they were recorded for a different movie (i�m talking about the sound, not the music). Now they also sound close to the rest.

In fact, the official release also has some problems: sonically the tracks "Floating Office", "V'Ger speaks" and "A good Start" don�t fit in. They have much less high frequency energy compared to the rest of the tracks. Very obviously the producers for the 1998 version also had some crappy master available. They also attempted to de-noise the music, in case of the first half of "V'Ger speaks" they failed. Just listen to it via headphone, compare it to other tracks and you�ll know what I mean.

Anyway, here is the tracklist for my release. Oh, don�t be surprised, I erased some tracks because I really didn�t need two versions of the "Main Title".



Ouverture Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 01/40 1979 Soundtrack 01 Ouverture.wv
Main Title Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 02/40 1979 Soundtrack 02 Main Title.wv
Klingon Battle Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 03/40 1979 Soundtrack 03 Klingon Battle.wv
Total Logic Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 04/40 1979 Soundtrack 04 Total Logic.wv
Floating Office Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 05/40 1979 Soundtrack 05 Floating Office.wv
The Enterprise Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 06/40 1979 Soundtrack 06 The Enterprise.wv
Transporter Malfunction Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 07/40 1979 Soundtrack 07 Transporter Malfunction.wv
Crew Briefing Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 08/40 1979 Soundtrack 08 Crew Briefing.wv
Destruction of Epsilon 9 Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 09/40 1979 Soundtrack 09 Destruction of Epsilon 9.wv
Pre-Launch Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 10/40 1979 Soundtrack 10 Pre-Launch.wv
Leaving Drydock Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 11/40 1979 Soundtrack 11 Leaving Drydock.wv
No Goodbyes Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 12/40 1979 Soundtrack 12 No Goodbyes.wv
Spock's Arrival Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 13/40 1979 Soundtrack 13 Spock's Arrival.wv
Red Alert Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 14/40 1979 Soundtrack 14 Red Alert.wv
The Cloud Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 15/40 1979 Soundtrack 15 The Cloud.wv
V'Ger Flyover Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 16/40 1979 Soundtrack 16 Vejur Flyover.wv
Force Field Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 17/40 1979 Soundtrack 17 Force Field (Film Version).wv
Micro Exam Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 18/40 1979 Soundtrack 18 Micro Exam.wv
Games Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 19/40 1979 Soundtrack 19 Games.wv
Thruster Suit Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 20/40 1979 Soundtrack 20 Thruster Suit.wv
Spock Walk Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 21/40 1979 Soundtrack 21 Spock Walk.wv
V'Ger signals the Creator Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 22/40 1979 Soundtrack 22 V'Ger signals the Creator.wv
Systems inoperative Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 23/40 1979 Soundtrack 23 Systems Inoperative.wv
Hidden Information Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 24/40 1979 Soundtrack 24 Hidden Information.wv
Inner Workings Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 25/40 1979 Soundtrack 25 Inner Workings.wv
Voyager 6! Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 26/40 1979 Soundtrack 26 Voyager 6!.wv
V'Ger speaks Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 27/40 1979 Soundtrack 27 Vejur Speaks.wv
The Meld Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 28/40 1979 Soundtrack 28 The Meld.wv
A good Start Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 29/40 1979 Soundtrack 29 A Good Start.wv
End Title Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 30/40 1979 Soundtrack 30 End Title.wv
Ilia's Theme Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 31/40 1979 Soundtrack 31 Ilia's Theme.wv
Main Title (Take 1) Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 32/40 1979 Soundtrack 32 Main Title (Take 1).wv
The Enterprise (Alternate) Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 33/40 1979 Soundtrack 33 The Enterprise (Alternate).wv
Leaving Drydock (Alternate) Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 34/40 1979 Soundtrack 34 Leaving Drydock (Alternate).wv
Spock's Arrival (Alternate) Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 35/40 1979 Soundtrack 35 Spock's Arrival (Alternate).wv
The Force Field (Alternate) Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 36/40 1979 Soundtrack 36 The Force Field.wv
Games (Alternate) Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 37/40 1979 Soundtrack 37 Games (Alternate).wv
Inner Workings (Alternate) Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 38/40 1979 Soundtrack 38 Inner Workings (Alternate).wv
End Title (Alternate) Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 39/40 1979 Soundtrack 39 End Title (Alternate).wv
Ilia's Theme (Alternate) Jerry Goldsmith Star Trek: The Motion Picture (DeLuxe Edition) 40/40 1979 Soundtrack 40 Ilia's Theme (Alternate).wv

BTW, I did every processing step in 32 Bit and 192 kHz. I ended up with masters in 32/96 which can be exported to almost any format - I�ll do this as soon as I�ve designed a cover. I mean, if anyone is interested in this. Remember, everything is lossless (except the "Ouverture" which comes from the DVD and was remixed by me to sound as close as possible to everything else). And - as I�ve said before - I erased one or two tracks for redundancy reasons, they absolutely made no sense at all. I also edited some tracks together ("Inner Workings" and "Voyager 6!") but they still flow like they are one. One some tracks I changed the flow, "Total Logic" doesn�t blend into "Floating Office" anymore.

Anyway, interested? :)

Interested? :)

Yes please !.

why is the overture from the DVD?

why is the overture from the DVD?

Because the sound quality was much better than on the same track from the boot. And it also could be safely extracted without sound effects. I loathe SFX!

Oh, I forgot: this is not the ouverture from the CD. I renamed that one to "Ilia's Theme" and placed it after the whole score, it introduces the alternate tracks now. The "Ouverture" in my version is the one actually used in the movie which is not a shortened version but a completely unique one.

Count me as Interested.

Very interested. Thank you so much for doing what you did and figuring it out.

Ok, I�ll release it then. But have patience, I�m just preparing the cover. It�ll probably be released tomorrow or the day after that.

Ok, I�ll release it then. But have patience, I�m just preparing the cover. It�ll probably be released tomorrow or the day after that.

Any updates on this? (I know you said it may be tomorrow but I thought I'd ask)

Would really love to get your version of this.

Any updates on this? (I know you said it may be tomorrow but I thought I'd ask)

Don�t worry, soon ;) This is my first release here and also my first using a file hoster so I have to figure out how I�m gonna use it.

Oh, btw... here it is: Thread 95746

Thanks!

Resurrecting an old thread. First off, is it the legit recording sessions? If so, could someone reup?

Can someone re uplaod this???

Please??

Is this (Thread 204920) what was posted here? Also, what version did williamtaylor post?