There's been a lot of negative feedback regarding recent Square Enix games (FFXIV, FFXIII etc etc), I was wondering "What was the last game Squaresoft, Enix or Square Enix actually released that you thought was good and/or you enjoyed beginning to end?" It can be a original game or sequel. Just A: no flaming of poster's responses B: try to think of other games BESIDES the Final Fantasy Series.

The last Squaresoft game I TRULY enjoyed, was Front Mission 3 on my trusty PlayStation. Great story, with a solid battle system and the music fit it quite well. Pity the latest FM sucked @$$. The rest of SE's catalog? Well, considering I still haven't forgiven them for that abysmal 'game' (if you want to call it that, and it was made before the merger of Squaresoft and Enix): The Bouncer. Never forgive you for that crap SE! NEVER!!

Dragon Quest IX or Four Heroes of Light.

I haven't bought games in quite some time especially Square Enix ones. But just going by memory, I'd have to say Dissidia. That's the most recent Square game I bought (I think). Haven't played FFXIII or even Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep yet :(.

The enix side tends to make good games, so dragon quest 9 for me on that.

However if we're talking the square side only, then probably final fantasy IX, X was ok, but it was no masterpiece, if only for how stupid i found the story.

If we leave FF outside I say Vagrant Story, Chrono Cross & Legend of Mana, 3 games released the same year, Threads of Fate, Front Mission 3 & Parasite Eve 2 were released this time as well, but these 6 games got their sales overshadowed by FFIX.

If we count FF series, the last Square game that I enjoyed is FFXII, but just because I love Tactics & Vagrant Story I invested my time on reading & understanding all the Flavor, but I don't consider XII an FF title because I have different mindset on the Ivalice Titles that are developed by it's creator.

The World Ends Withe You and Dragon Quest V.

XIII

Seeing as how I haven't played many, Kingdom Hearts.

Chrono Cross

Seeing as how I haven't played many, Kingdom Hearts.

Yay for KH. They are releasing yet another DS one (Kingdom Hearts Re:coded). Still no mention of KH III. :sad:

Yay for KH. They are releasing yet another DS one (Kingdom Hearts Re:coded). Still no mention of KH III. :sad:

They need to port those games on to the PS2 format and sell them in the Playstation store. I don't know why they keep focusing on this crappy hand-helds.

XIII.

They have a pretty terrific line-up of DS games too.

Just Cause 2. JRPGs are done. Luckily some part of Square-Enix realised this, and bought Eidos.

I'd have to say I LOVED Lost Odyssey. I mean, I like a lot of their games and faithfully buy them when I can, but Lost Odyssey was just WOW.

I don't think Square-Enix had anything to do with Lost Odyssey.

chrono cross.

Legend of Kage 2

The DS Dragon Quest remakes. I'm sure I would have enjoyed Dragon Quest IX and 4 Heroes of Light had I actually played them though.

Seeing as how I haven't played many, Kingdom Hearts.

I agree with Kefka in this video about KH

KEFKA TELLS THE TRUTH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwl_z7ctlq0)

I was going to say something similar, but you asked there be no flaming in this thread (and I've already voiced my dislike for KH in other threads). Still though, absolutely atrocious story arc in that series.

I was going to say something similar, but you asked there be no flaming in this thread (and I've already voiced my dislike for KH in other threads). Still though, absolutely atrocious story arc in that series.

I don't like KH either (though I have played them, and disliked every minute of them), I just found that clip to rather humorous is all. I know that some here will consider that video to be 'flaming KH', still, everyone has their own opinion.

Final Fantasy XII for me. I liked XIII, but I didn't TRULY enjoyed it the way I did XII. I felt there was too many things missing in XIII.

Final Fantasy XII was nice. That was the last Squeenix developed game I can think of that I really liked. Apart from that, there are plenty of games they've released that I've liked. Just Cause 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum and I also have them to thank for releasing the outstanding Persona 4 in Europe. And they're releasing the new Deus Ex to boot.

I agree with Kefka in this video about KH

KEFKA TELLS THE TRUTH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwl_z7ctlq0)


I was going to say something similar, but you asked there be no flaming in this thread (and I've already voiced my dislike for KH in other threads). Still though, absolutely atrocious story arc in that series.

It's okay to dislike something and not find it appealing, but don't voice your opinion about it like a cunt. I say this in a general sense, not that guys did. That's what it really boils down to.

It's okay to dislike something and not find it appealing, but don't voice your opinion about it like a cunt. I say this in a general sense, not that guys did. That's what it really boils down to.

Believe it or not, I do agree with you Arigeitsu159... however as a person who has witnessed similar rants (usually FFVII fanboys screaming about FFVII), I honestly don't care if people want to be a asshole about stuff like in that vid. I 'think' the cosplayer playing Kefka was trying to get into the role of a insane clown (which he did succeed in other video's), and it came down to the point, he echoed my own feelings about KH (maybe not in such a verbal way though).

Boils down to each gamer and their own opinion... I think anyone would be hard pressed to find a game that is universally accepted by every gamer as being the greatest game (in graphics, characters, story, battle system etc etc etc) ever made, as I doubt that such a game has been made.

I love how people say the story arc is bad when anyone who's a big fan of KH knows it, it really isn't rocket science but Square didn't make it easy for us by releasing on about 9478954385734 different consoles.

But Birth By Sleep was the last square game I enjoyed, good battle system and definitely the most intense story in a KH game yet.

final fantasy xiii for me. good battle system, definately one of the more intense final fantasies out there.

I love how people say the story arc is bad when anyone who's a big fan of KH knows it
I don't think so, Tim.

I don't think Square-Enix had anything to do with Lost Odyssey.
Pretty sure they did, but I could be wrong.

Pretty sure they did, but I could be wrong.

No, they didn't. It was developed by Mistwalker (a studio formed by a lot of former employees of Square Enix, including Hironobu Sakaguchi) and published by Microsoft. Square Enix had nothing to do with it.

^ Gah, I did check it out and you're right. I got confused because of all the names attached to it. Now I just look like an idiot.
Sorry. .___.

WELL. Then the last one I enjoyed was KHII.

That's alright. I thought the same thing too for the longest time. I have no idea why though.

I don't think so, Tim.

If someone doesn't take the time to looks into a story that really isn't as complicated as some people say then they're not really a big fan.

If you're a fan who enjoys it enough, why wouldn't you look into the stories of the games you couldn't get because they were on a console didn't own?

I have no idea what you are saying.

I have no idea what you are saying.

x2

Oh, and my answer would be FFIX. Beat it the other night :) That ending is THE BEST in the series. So powerful :)

FFXII is the latest game I enjoyed although in my oppinion does not quite beat FFVII only because of the larger storyline with the movie, DoC, Before Crises, Crisis Core, and the books.

FFXII is the latest game I enjoyed although in my oppinion does not quite beat FFVII only because of the larger storyline with the movie, DoC, Before Crises, Crisis Core, and the books.

Anything in particular about XII you disliked? Or would you say you liked it through and through?

The only thing I disliked about XII was how narrow the story was. You could barely influence it, if possible at all. VII was more open because you actions can influence the game later on like the dating scene. Because the storyline is only a small part in the making of a game, I think SE could have improved on that. Everything else about XII is great, like the battle system, graphics, ect.

I agree with you on that, however I think the sheer amount of side quests and extras in the game well make up for it. And the music is amazing too :) Really captures the feel of the game and just plain fantasy in general. Severely underrated.

Yeah, going off topic, Final Fantasy music is something that you want to just keep listening to. No matter how many times I play a certain game the constant music never ceases to amaze me. I don't know how many people agree with me, but I like the XIII music the most because there is actual singing in it and not just a tune. Also with Final Fantasy, sidequest are a given although XII does offer a lot more then the other titles.

I absolutely agree! Uematsu and Sakimoto are brilliant in their compositions and I would love to see the two collaborate (if they haven't already). But on the contrary, I did not care much for XIII's soundtrack. It's a little bland for my tastes. I only played a little bit of FFXIII a handful of months ago and liked the game, although the music lacked any real emotion - something each and every other soundtrack is practically overflowing with. I consider every FF soundtrack (save for XIII) to be an immense pleasure to listen to. Each one fits the game like a glove and carries the emotion of each scene with a lot of meticulous care. FF music is half the battle :D

Well what did you expect from Hamauzu? Gotta say, though, I really digged his version of the chocobo theme. It was catchy. But apart from that, the soundtrack was forgettable.

Going back to the original topic: Final Fantasy XII. I care little for Square Enix developed games, I care very much for Square Enix published games (usually).

Exactly; Hamauzu's scores are atmospheric and create a certain tone, but atmospheric and melodic are built of entirely different properties that don't stimulate the same emotions in the brain. That's why Uematsu reigns supreme and Hamauzu should stay in his shadow. :D

Exactly; Hamauzu's scores are atmospheric and create a certain tone, but atmospheric and melodic are built of entirely different properties that don't stimulate the same emotions in the brain. That's why Uematsu reigns supreme and Hamauzu should stay in his shadow. :D

Sounds like someone haven't heard to the lackluster post FF days of Uematsu...

Uematsu never disappoints! NEVAR!

Uematsu never disappoints! NEVAR!

Blue Dragon, Lord of Vermilion, Away Shuffle Dungeon, FFXIV & Probably Lost Odyssey too...

No contest man...

Well geez, you have to mention games I've never played. . . .

Blue Dragon, Lord of Vermilion, Away Shuffle Dungeon, FFXIV & Probably Lost Odyssey too...

In my mind, Lost Odyssey is one of his best.

Blue Dragon, Lord of Vermilion, and Away Shuffle Dungeon have some good tracks, too, although they're flawed. FF14 I need to hear again, but I wasn't impressed the first time through.

FFXII:RW has been the last FF game I've played.
Replaying FFIV-VI Advance on my DS is something else.
Loads of fun - a couple years back, lol.

I'd pick up FFXIII and XIV, but I'm too lazy. I think I need a PS3 for them to boot, right?

Final Fantasy 12 was the best game by them of recent times. It dips a bit in the last third, but even then, the game itself and the side quests etc are still great.

I do like FF13, but ultimately I'll take 12 over it any day of the week. It was a lot better than some of their other recent games though (Last Remnant particularly).

Final Fantasy II (the real II, not IV) was awesome.

The Emperor is one of my favorite villains now.

:seriously:

Final Fantasy II (the real II, not IV) was awesome.

The Emperor is one of my favorite villains now.

I'm going to have to agree with your username.

I'm going to have to agree with your username.

What was so bad about the second FF? The "no-level-up" system?

EVERYTHING.
except guy.
he can talk to beavers.

Well, no, II is great in its own way; but . . . the Emperor is one of the most forgettable villains in the series. Golbez has more character.

EVERYTHING.
except guy.
he can talk to beavers.

This.

Well, no, II is great in its own way; but . . . the Emperor is one of the most forgettable villains in the series. Golbez has more character.

Can't argue with Golbez. But Emperor gained my respect when he dominated heaven and hell.

FF XII. I got bored with XIII about ten hours in. I'm going to go back and start anew and see if it's different. I gotta say, games like FF type-o and FF 13 verses have given me faith that the series still has some juice left in it.

Final Fantasy IX. All the later Square Enix games are craps for me.

So far, I'm totally digging Birth By Sleep

So far, I'm totally digging Birth By Sleep

Man, I wish they'd port that game to PS2 or something within the Playstation Store or something. I'm getting really pissed at how they keep releasing KH games for handhelds. Total garbage.

I'd pick up FFXIII and XIV, but I'm too lazy. I think I need a PS3 for them to boot, right?

FFXIII is on both PS3 and 360. However, FFXIV is currently for PC only - the PS3 version has been postponed indefinitely while SE fix all the problems and issues with the game (hence, a lot of players liken the current status of the game to a 'paid beta').

As for the last SE game I truely enjoyed, I'd probably say Dissidia. Yes, it's shameless fanservice, but the ability to have Cloud given a lightning enema by Shantotto was just too much fun. :p

What about Terra overkill?

As for the last SE game I truely enjoyed, I'd probably say Dissidia. Yes, it's shameless fanservice, but the ability to have Cloud given a lightning enema by Shantotto was just too much fun. :p


What about Terra overkill?

The best of all dissidia to me is this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozAjuxRKo1k)

Happy laughter.

So wrong...so very very wrong.

The best of all dissidia to me is this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozAjuxRKo1k)

Happy laughter.

That shit was funny lol

That vid is hilarious :) Made me laugh so hard when Bartz said, "I guess I was once that small."

FFXIII!

-Shot-

/jumps in front of the bullet

Muhahahaha...My plan worked! >D

I'd be upset if I wasn't already riddled with bullets~

Probably true. :P

The best of all dissidia to me is this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozAjuxRKo1k)

Happy laughter.


that reminds me of the most accurate pre-battle taunts in the history of ever:
so me and my best friend are playing dragon ball gt final bout, and we both pick goku, first goku yells SHOW ME ALL YOU GOT! second goku says ILL SHOW YOU ALL I GOT!.

me and him literally rofl'd for 8 minutes.

Final Fantasy XIII for me too. I really like it. I didn't like XII but I really enjoy playing XIII. It's not perfect but it's perfectly enjoyable, in my opinion.

I've never played kingdom hearts but this video always makes me giggle: YouTube - kingdom hearts VS resident evil 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s4OZcV-5fE)

MC Chris is awesome.

Space Invaders Extreme 2, even though that's from the Taito end.

Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Ring of Fates (whew, long title there) would be my second choice excluding the other buy-outs. I really liked the (admittedly confusing) story, the music, and the gameplay. It fixed nearly everything I disliked about the Gamecube game except graphics, which I didn't mind.

Enix's Star Ocean: The Second Story and Square Enix's Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls. SE's GBA port of Final Fantasy V is pretty fun too. Out of all the RPGs I've played, I've had the most fun with those three.

Every single game they've made is good and can easily be enjoyed, but the real problem is that their(the game) getting less joyful with each new release.

hopping FF XIII-2 will Sayonara that :)

Every single game they've made is good and can easily be enjoyed, but the real problem is that their(the game) getting less joyful with each new release.

hopping FF XIII-2 will Sayonara that :)

I disagree with you that they get less joyful with each release, but I do hope XIII-2 will be a good game! I just don't know how I feel about it being released so soon, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed it will do alright.

Every single game they've made is good and can easily be enjoyed, but the real problem is that their(the game) getting less joyful with each new release.

hopping FF XIII-2 will Sayonara that :)

No offense, but it's this kind of blind fanaticism I hate. Every company has made good/great games, as well as their fair share of failures. I do agree that SE games are getting less joyful, however that is just personal preference.

FXIII-2... I doubt that'll do well, taking into account the earlier X-2 as well as others.

FF XIII-2

is...is this actually happening?

really?

I'm just afraid XIII-2 is going to improve on all the things everyone's complained about, but not put enough effort into everything else :O

Square Enix games for quite some time, especially those who have not purchased. But the only memory goes, I'd have to say Dissidia. I am (I think) I bought the latest Square game. No Birth By Sleep: Do not play FFXIII or even Kingdom Hearts.