Cristobalito2007
12-05-2010, 08:47 PM
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GaiusBaltar
12-05-2010, 09:17 PM
Wow, Thank You!
Jediknight12
12-05-2010, 09:17 PM
Do you have Home Alone?
Lord_Zuckuss
12-05-2010, 09:22 PM
thanks for the post. my copy is in the mail, but now I can listen to it ahead of getting here, and I'll just keep it nice and sealed in my CD collection without having to open it!
goldsmithrules
12-05-2010, 10:22 PM
thank you so much!
failsafe123
12-05-2010, 10:32 PM
It's wonderful! I did order one today too...just great.
CD1
http://rapidshare.com/files/435024513/trek5.rar
CD2
http://rapidshare.com/files/435057917/cd2.rar
PASSWORD: unimatrixzero
MP3, VBR 0
If you like it buy it. I did.
Special thanks to Kharol (original uploader)[/QUOTE]
thanks. I will certainly buy it!
Jediknight12
12-05-2010, 11:12 PM
Never listened to a Star Trek Soundtrack before but I additional got Insurection Soundtrack for Christmas one year
izbot
12-06-2010, 05:01 AM
Thanks for sharing!!
Any chance of someone uploading scans of the liner notes booklet??
Momaru
12-06-2010, 06:06 AM
I'm glad so many people have bought it! I can't wait to!
direx
12-06-2010, 09:12 AM
Links are down now ...
direx
Cristobalito2007
12-06-2010, 09:14 AM
Thats all the fun for now guys. Original uploader took them down.
Amanda
12-06-2010, 10:14 AM
Nah, the fun will resume shortly, am uploading will post new link shortly....
Moviehobbyist
12-06-2010, 10:18 AM
I'll buy it for sure. Don't worry!
musicman1225
12-06-2010, 10:20 AM
Don't you just hate it when the fun ends?
Yeah, me too.
Kind of like one of those "no-win" scenarios.
Personally.... I don't believe in a no-win scenario.
Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites! (
http://www.multiupload.com/8UFOJTLD5W)
P.S. - Despite the quote, no, this is not a link to Wrath of Khan. I just felt it was appropriate. Enjoy!
Cristobalito2007
12-06-2010, 10:23 AM
I'll buy it for sure. Don't worry!
Nice one mate. Is anyone loving the new track 'The Birth' as much as me?
Amanda
12-06-2010, 10:28 AM
As promised, and just because it is good to have options these days:
MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service (
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A9HBN1F9)
musicman1225
12-06-2010, 10:30 AM
Damn babydoll, you almost beat me to the punch, ha ha!
On the bright side, now there are several working links. :)
Kirov
12-06-2010, 10:39 AM
Thank you for share!!! (and reuploaded!) ^_^
bob00
12-06-2010, 10:56 AM
Any chance of someone uploading just the additional music from CD 2.
Managed to get the first CD from the original links, don't want have to download everything again.
Thanks all.
khitomer
12-06-2010, 11:26 AM
Brilliant! Thanks for this, must order for Christmas
guntherl
12-06-2010, 12:31 PM
Thanks a lot! Now that I hear it I will buy it for sure!!
Jediknight12
12-06-2010, 12:57 PM
I wonder if LA LA LAnd Will even release Complete music for Harry Potter
frafak
12-06-2010, 03:46 PM
Thanks guys ! Great score.
1shikawa
12-06-2010, 04:47 PM
I enjoyed the original frelease with the exception of the Uhura song.
Here's hoping what i hear here today will make me order it.
It worked with STII & STIII. Hope it works again.
fenderman2000
12-06-2010, 06:39 PM
Anyone have this in lossless?
Leon Scott Kennedy
12-06-2010, 06:45 PM
Anyone have this in lossless?
Errr.... There are still copies available for sale [
http://www.lalalandrecords.com/StarTrekV.html], if you want perfect quality consider to purchase it.
Yahzee
12-06-2010, 06:50 PM
exactly... while we're at it... I'm having troubles ordering Batman Returns so, of course I wanna kill myself... I don't know if La-la Land won't accept cards from my country or what...
Cristobalito2007
12-06-2010, 06:50 PM
Errr.... There are still copies available for sale [LA LA LAND RECORDS, Star Trek V (
http://www.lalalandrecords.com/StarTrekV.html)], if you want perfect quality consider to purchase it.
Exactly
Sirusjr
12-06-2010, 06:57 PM
I have lossless but I won't be posting publicly until this sells out. You should buy this release if you want lossless. Don't PM me for it either, I won't send it.
themanfrombrazil
12-06-2010, 07:35 PM
Great release !!!
I was waiting for this for years !!!
Muito Obrigado !!!
Jediknight12
12-06-2010, 08:02 PM
Does anyone have Batman Returns?
Egon1980
12-06-2010, 08:36 PM
Errr.... There are still copies available for sale [LA LA LAND RECORDS, Star Trek V (
http://www.lalalandrecords.com/StarTrekV.html)], if you want perfect quality consider to purchase it.
I have lossless but I won't be posting publicly until this sells out. You should buy this release if you want lossless. Don't PM me for it either, I won't send it.
I thinks that's a very hypocritical attitude.
Captain Scarlet
12-06-2010, 09:09 PM
All links are dead. Please reupload. Thanks. Something other than Rapidshare would be nice if possible also. They were going way down hill before the takeover, now they are a terrible provider. A waste of time as far as uploading content such as this is concerned.
1shikawa
12-06-2010, 09:14 PM
This Cd will cost in the region of �25 UKP to ship it to the UK and that dosen't include if you get caught for import Tax.
Still thinking of getting it, but at that price i will have to seriously think is it worth it.
STII & STIII were more worth it, then i enjoyed James horner music to those two films.
musicman1225
12-06-2010, 09:29 PM
Not all of the links are dead. That's why I specifically put them on multiupload, so that it would be spread to several different sites. Click on this link, then select your preferred download provider:
Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites! (
http://www.multiupload.com/8UFOJTLD5W)
As for rapidshare, I've never had any problems with them. If you're getting something for free, you can wait sixty seconds (or whatever amount of time you have to wait between different downloads).
Captain Scarlet
12-06-2010, 09:40 PM
Rapidshare were far better a service before their crappy overhaul, their prices here are ridiculous now compared to other providers as well. I wouldn't use them again personally until that at least changes. Thanks for working links though. ;)
Sirusjr
12-06-2010, 10:10 PM
I thinks that's a very hypocritical attitude.
Well lossless is much better quality and for something like this, withholding lossless gives the person on here a reason to buy the original. I post lossless of stuff from Japan because the import procedures can be a lot more difficult.
Lupus
12-06-2010, 10:17 PM
I post lossless of stuff from Japan because the import procedures can be a lot more difficult.
I don't think import procedures from Japan to Europe or US are more difficult than import procedures from US to Europe or Japan...
MadmanMARZ
12-07-2010, 12:02 AM
Great release !!!
I was waiting for this for years !!!
Muito Obrigado !!!
Then I hope you bought it... :)
---------- Post added at 05:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:00 PM ----------
I thinks that's a very hypocritical attitude.
No it�s not
moviemusicsi
12-07-2010, 04:04 AM
Hi could someone possibley upload the covers and booklet ?
many thanks
JRL3001
12-07-2010, 07:18 AM
Ordered my copy last week. Just waiting for them to ship it out :P
bdude
12-07-2010, 08:36 AM
Batman Returns, anyone?
c�d�master88
12-07-2010, 08:50 AM
Batman Returns, anyone?
I second that.
Amanda
12-07-2010, 09:01 AM
It will show eventually. Just need patience. Although, with all the "discussion" surrounding it, it may not show here openly....
Number Five
12-07-2010, 09:04 AM
F$%^ man, in this thread too? If you're gonna be greedy and impatient you could at least do it where it belongs.
Egon1980
12-07-2010, 11:17 AM
No it�s not
Yes, it is.
Otherwise, no one's forcing you to share lossless.
Amanda
12-07-2010, 12:48 PM
Yes, it is.
Otherwise, no one's forcing you to share lossless.
That statement doesn't make much sense.....
Honestly, I prefer not to post new stuff as FLAC publicly too. That is sure to arouse the wrong sort of attention, which we don't need right now. If you want this as perfect quality, with high res covers and booklet, then buy the set.
Amanda
12-07-2010, 02:00 PM
Which, after listening to this, I am not even tempted to do... :b
I.....don't care for most of it. I enjoy the variations of the kiingon theme, but large sections sound more like the later next gen movies, which I suppose isn't the fault of this score, but I do not feel it works for the classic crew. much like the movie, this score is...well, blah, at least for me. Actually, I prefer to scrub any memory of the movie from my mind, perhaps that colors my feelings about this score. Hmmm.
Sirusjr
12-07-2010, 03:21 PM
Your reaction doesn't surprise me babydoll. As much as I LOVE goldsmith now, it took me a while to fall for his Star Trek style or his styles in general. I think it's because I have been listening to the Star Trek scores for the last year or two that this release is so exciting.
Amanda
12-07-2010, 03:24 PM
Well, I like his score for first Contact a lot...a lot lot. I like the other Next gen movies to, for the most part. And of course, TMP was fantastic. I was just surprised to hear that this movie's score sounds a lot like the later works. I don't feel it works as well for the classic crew, but I probably have just got used to this material being used for Next gen, so it just feels out of place here, even though this came first. I am still glad to have it, and hear it, but I found the two FSM Treks far more exciting....
Lupus
12-07-2010, 03:49 PM
Star Trek V and The Next Generation came out in the same time so certain similarities are clear. From what I remember it is Goldsmith who arranged the music in TNG intro.
Egon1980
12-07-2010, 03:50 PM
If you want this as perfect quality, with high res covers and booklet, then buy the set.
I have this title in CD quality, thanks.
We all have the right to an opinion.
bishtyboshty
12-07-2010, 04:21 PM
Well, I like his score for first Contact a lot...a lot lot. I like the other Next gen movies to, for the most part. And of course, TMP was fantastic. I was just surprised to hear that this movie's score sounds a lot like the later works. I don't feel it works as well for the classic crew, but I probably have just got used to this material being used for Next gen, so it just feels out of place here, even though this came first. I am still glad to have it, and hear it, but I found the two FSM Treks far more exciting....
I've always had a soft spot for both the film and the score. At their heart was the core of friendship between the central characters; male bonding at its warmest.
Lord_Zuckuss
12-07-2010, 07:44 PM
From what I remember it is Goldsmith who arranged the music in TNG intro.
No, that was Dennis McCarthy.
pst001
12-07-2010, 07:54 PM
uh, here's hi-res artwork for anybody who needs it:

moviemusicsi
12-07-2010, 07:57 PM
Could you possibly upload the booklet as well ?? many thanks!!
Captain Scarlet
12-07-2010, 09:22 PM
I've always had a soft spot for both the film and the score. At their heart was the core of friendship between the central characters; male bonding at its warmest.
I agree. It's just a shame the special effects were so utterly terrible, only Superman IV topped them at the time. It didn't help that they cranked up the contrast so much on the Blu-ray box set that the infamous "What does God need with a Starship?" sequence was completely blown out rendering most of the sequence further unwatchable in the process either.
I think the score personally is great and ordered this baby the moment it went online. Can't wait to receive it, but the weather conditions here will certainly not make it arrive any quicker so I am glad I have been able to download it.
Lupus
12-07-2010, 09:44 PM
No, that was Dennis McCarthy.
From Wikipedia: Gene Roddenberry initially wanted Goldsmith to score Star Trek's pilot episode, "The Cage", but the composer was unavailable. I think that's where my mistake comes from. The same source says about McCarthy's rearrangement too.
Lupus
12-08-2010, 06:36 PM
If anyone's willing to share it in lossless, please let me know by PM.
GaiusBaltar
12-08-2010, 10:12 PM
If you want it losless, buy the soundtrack..
Lupus
12-08-2010, 10:35 PM
Yes, I heard that.
I do not lust after it. I'm not asking anyone to upload it. If someone has it in lossless, and is willing to share it - I'm interested.
tangotreats
12-08-2010, 11:06 PM
HORRIFIC movie, absolute hellish disaster of a train-wreck of a movie (Uhura flirts with Scotty, Uhura gets her kit off, Spock sings and half an hour later is born, McCoy kills his father, Kirk argues with God... and that's before you start worrying about the FX which look like they were painted on with acrylics and charcoal)... one of Goldsmith's finest works. Which I have bought and which you should all do too instead of pinching it!
Joseph
12-08-2010, 11:22 PM
Eh, I've never been a fan of Goldsmith's bombastic "Star Trek" music. Did the "Star Trek IV" album have most of the Leonard Rosenman score? 'Cause I'd put down some bones for that, and more of his "RoboCop 2."
tangotreats
12-08-2010, 11:36 PM
Pretty much the whole lot. IV was very sparsely scored. I think there's probably three or four minutes at most (short stingers, transitions, etc) missing from the old GNP Crescendo album. I can't make up my mind with Robocop 2... Some days I love it, some days I hate it. (The score, I mean - not the movie... never seen it, never intend to...) :)
izbot
12-08-2010, 11:40 PM
I personally don't care much for Rosenman's sole contribution to Trek music. It was the coloring book version of film scores. Every piece bludgeoned the viewer/listener with it's telegraphed emotional intent ("happy momemt!" "sad moment!" "nervous moment!" "silly moment!" "jump-up-and-down-and-clap moment!"). The opening fanfare seemed better suited for a kid movie. Even the songs chosen were way off. The Yellowjackets' Market Street -- an upbeat jazz combo representing the 1980s made little sense to me. I think the punk-on-the-bus scene would've worked better using Dead Kennedy's "Holiday in Cambodia" than the parody faux-punk "I Hate You". But whatever.
Joseph
12-09-2010, 12:09 AM
Pretty much the whole lot. IV was very sparsely scored. I think there's probably three or four minutes at most (short stingers, transitions, etc) missing from the old GNP Crescendo album. I can't make up my mind with Robocop 2... Some days I love it, some days I hate it. (The score, I mean - not the movie... never seen it, never intend to...) :)
"RoboCop 2" is pretty much an awful movie, a pop cultural novelty at best. It has two saving graces: the fact that it isn't "RoboCop 3," and Leonard Rosenman's score. I'm one of the guys that loved Basil Poledouris' score and theme for the original RoboCop… but I think Rosenman's work for the sequel is the one of most triumphant examples of a composer discarding "legacy" material and managing to put something just as "right" in its place. It's like Pepsi to Poledouris' Coca-Cola.
I personally don't care much for Rosenman's sole contribution to Trek music. It was the coloring book version of film scores. Every piece bludgeoned the viewer/listener with it's telegraphed emotional intent ("happy momemt!" "sad moment!" "nervous moment!" "silly moment!" "jump-up-and-down-and-clap moment!"). The opening fanfare seemed better suited for a kid movie. Even the songs chosen were way off. The Yellowjackets' Market Street -- an upbeat jazz combo representing the 1980s made little sense to me. I think the punk-on-the-bus scene would've worked better using Dead Kennedy's "Holiday in Cambodia" than the parody faux-punk "I Hate You". But whatever.
I think Rosenman's score reciprocated the unique tone and energy of the movie. It was right there with the material, never above it. And "Market Street" is so damn catchy and funky. But my favorite thing about the whole score is the music to the final scene, when Kirk and his crew are being taken to their "new" ship. Rosenman knew the TV theme was "home."
Sirusjr
12-09-2010, 12:29 AM
I am not a very big fan of Rosenman's score to STIV. The only Rosenman score I have is The Prophecy, another score that can be difficult to listen to but is at least more interesting than STIV.
Captain Scarlet
12-09-2010, 01:30 AM
I happen to think Leonard Rosenman was an incredibly overrated composer. I've heard a bunch of his scores, and I would say that none of them were any better than average, not to my tastes at all. If cheese were a composer, he would get my vote and I know fairly quickly whether any given composer is going to be a hit or miss with me. His STIV score was embarrassingly bad. Yuck. It's one of the major reasons I avoid that film today to be honest. Not to mention the whole thing sounds like it's being played by a high school marching band, one you would expect on some garbage television show about how the British like to drink tea I might add, not a Star Trek picture.
tangotreats
12-09-2010, 10:21 AM
I'm not a big Rosenman fan; his music frequently misses the point (which is typical for a man who considered film to be an inferior medium and believed that only his God-like incalculable genius could save it from total oblivion) and recycles that melody so many times (you know the one; the main theme from ST IV, Robocop 2, Lord of the Rings, etc, etc, etc) it really makes me wonder why people complain so bitterly about James Horner (who steals with panache) and leave Rosenman largely alone - who writes condescending, inappropriate music on autopilot which frequently showcases nothing but his own tangible distaste for the medium.
That said, I enjoy STIV for what it is. A good movie, just not a good TREK movie - and likewise for the score. I'm not sure what you have against the orchestra (which is spotless; Rosenman's orchestrations are avant-garde to be sure, but the performance is top notch and the recording is pretty respectable) or the British (I am English, and I am drinking tea right now - I can tell you without a hint of irony that we do not have TV shows about drinking tea, and if we did they wouldn't be scored like Star Trek IV! ;) )
We'll leave the garbage television shows to the Americans; they seem to be highly adept at making them, and unfortunately, at selling them to British TV stations... so we have to put up with them. ;) (Still; it makes a nice change from all the shows about teabags...!)
izbot
12-09-2010, 11:13 AM
The orchestra may be spotless but I gotta agree that the high school marching band analogy is *exactly* the impression I get from that main title theme from STIV. Maybe it's more accurate to say Rosenman wrote the music specifically for high school marching band but it just happens to be performed by a competant orchestra. All his compositions are (as you correctly point out) condescending. I feel like I'm being treated like a high schooler by him whenever I have to suffer through one of his scores.
Joseph
12-09-2010, 05:13 PM
Did Leonard Rosenman really consider film an inferior medium? I've never heard that before. Regardless, it's not something that I can pick up from his music. Well, he might've been condescending to RoboCop 2 (for good reason) but his Star Trek has always had an earnest quality to me. Maybe it's the way Nimoy used the music.
And STIV is not a good Trek movie!? It's one of the only ones that 100% true to the original vision of the show: non-violent, character-oriented and socially conscious. A lot of the other Trek movies are terrific, but they emphasize conflict over the science-fiction.
Captain Scarlet
12-09-2010, 06:31 PM
the British (I am English, and I am drinking tea right now - I can tell you without a hint of irony that we do not have TV shows about drinking tea, and if we did they wouldn't be scored like Star Trek IV! ;) )
I'm also English and I stick by what I said. It has that "highbrow" Cheesy British royalty sound, that was way out of date (even for the time) for the fourth film in a Star Trek franchise, regardless of subject matter. Many BBC television shows aimed at the older crowd over the years have had that sort of music for one reason or another, the typical sound you would apply to thouse bunch of old ladies round the table, drinking tea, discussing about how back "in their day" etc. One of the most stereotypical viewpoints the Americans have against the English for one. You know, that sort of thing. ;)
Jediknight12
12-09-2010, 06:46 PM
I'm also British and I stick by what I said. It has that "highbrow" Cheesy British royalty sound, that was way out of date (even for the time) for the fourth film in a Star Trek franchise, regardless of subject matter. Many BBC television shows aimed at the older crowd over the years have had that sort of music for one reason or another, the typical sound you would apply to thouse bunch of old ladies round the table, drinking tea, discussing about how back "in their day" etc. One of the most stereotypical viewpoints the Americans have against the English for one. You know, that sort of thing. ;)
Well that is a common stereotype and this British girl likes me and I'm American so... and I love the British they are cool
Bladeforce
12-09-2010, 06:51 PM
Anyway who's got the scans for this fab release? ;)
Captain Scarlet
12-09-2010, 06:53 PM
Well that is a common stereotype and this British girl likes me and I'm American so... and I love the British they are cool
That's the thing though. This and my generation of the English do not consider ourselves part of "that" England, and why should we?
I'm very much what you would call a "modern" British citizen.
Amanda
12-09-2010, 06:56 PM
ALTHOUGH i MUST SAY, YOU bRITISH CAN TAKE AN OK SHOW, LIKE lAW AND oRDE, AND REALLY DO TERRIFIC THINGS WITH IT. i (caps lock, dummy) have been watching Law and Order UK on BBCAmerica, and it's fantastic. Truly, it etains everything distinctive and great about L&O, but is translated into something truly British, not an easy feat at all. Where as we Americans take a great British show like Coupling, say, and just totally kill it in translation.....
tangotreats
12-09-2010, 07:59 PM
That's the thing though. This and my generation of the English do not consider ourselves part of "that" England, and why should we?
I'm very much what you would call a "modern" British citizen.
Well, there's always an exception. I'm very much a part of "this" generation (I'm 26) and I proudly consider myself both a member, and a proud defender of "that" England in every way. :)
Joseph
12-09-2010, 08:05 PM
Which England are we talking about? The England from "Gosford Park," or the England from "Monty Python"?
Lens of Truth
12-09-2010, 08:11 PM
Which England would *that* be? I consider myself to be to part of every England.. except perhaps the current self-loathing one!! ;)
Count me as another fan of The Voyage Home too. Classic 80s "worlds collide" drama and classic Trek. I've always really identified with the Kirk and Spock out-of-water dynamic. And what about when they warp around the Sun - 9.1 - 9.2 - 9.3 (faints)! The main title is terrific!
Bladeforce
12-09-2010, 09:44 PM
AND CONTRARY TO POPULAR OPINON WE ENGLISH DO NOT ALL SPEAK LIKE THE QUEEN! /rantoff
RogueShark
12-15-2010, 05:42 AM
I'm also English and I stick by what I said. It has that "highbrow" Cheesy British royalty sound, that was way out of date (even for the time) for the fourth film in a Star Trek franchise, regardless of subject matter. Many BBC television shows aimed at the older crowd over the years have had that sort of music for one reason or another, the typical sound you would apply to thouse bunch of old ladies round the table, drinking tea, discussing about how back "in their day" etc. One of the most stereotypical viewpoints the Americans have against the English for one. You know, that sort of thing. ;)
I'm English too, and Rosenman's scores sound entirely American to me. Even the lighter moments of Star Trek IV have that mid 20th Century Americana sound.
I'm not a big Rosenman fan; his music frequently misses the point (which is typical for a man who considered film to be an inferior medium and believed that only his God-like incalculable genius could save it from total oblivion) and recycles that melody so many times (you know the one; the main theme from ST IV, Robocop 2, Lord of the Rings, etc, etc, etc) it really makes me wonder why people complain so bitterly about James Horner (who steals with panache) and leave Rosenman largely alone - who writes condescending, inappropriate music on autopilot which frequently showcases nothing but his own tangible distaste for the medium.
It least it's distinctively his own melody, which can't exactly be said for Horner's plagiarisms. Besides, that autopilot scoring only really came apparent throughout the last decade of his major films score, before he was diagnosed with fronto-temporal dementia. That's a crippling illness, and perhaps it took a slowly progressive effect on the quality of his output. One can't leave that out of the equation.
Also, Herrmann in some of his lower moments wrote of a distaste for the medium and aspired to be a world renowned conductor. This is true in particular for those more classically trained composers, who always tried to reserve time for the concert hall along with writing new works for opera, and ballet etc...
I'll also remind you that Herrmann "believed that only his God-like incalculable genius could save it from total oblivion." But his abrasive personality doesn't diminish the power of his works, just as Rosenman's arrogance does not. Clearly Herrmann is the superior film composer, but that doesn't mean one should therefore dismiss the idiosyncratic genius of East of Eden, Rebel Without A Cause, The Cobweb, Fantastic Voyage, Beneath The Planet of the Apes, A Man Called Horse, The Car, The Lord of the Ring and The Prophecy - And merely focus on the relatively mediocre Star Trek IV score.
The orchestra may be spotless but I gotta agree that the high school marching band analogy is *exactly* the impression I get from that main title theme from STIV. Maybe it's more accurate to say Rosenman wrote the music specifically for high school marching band but it just happens to be performed by a competant orchestra. All his compositions are (as you correctly point out) condescending. I feel like I'm being treated like a high schooler by him whenever I have to suffer through one of his scores.
Fantastic Voyage, Beneath The Planet of the Apes, and The Cobweb are condescending - really? Three, hardcore, uncompromisingly atonal scores, worthy of Arnold Schoenberg and Roger Sessions? Sounds to me like you've just listened to Star Trek IV, Robocop 2, and made your mind up.
lostecho
03-15-2011, 03:41 AM
Bless You. IDK how I'm just finding out about this now. I'm kicking myself that I didn't know about it in time to purchase. But looks like there are some resellers on Amazon...might need to get my sis a copy, too!
Eisengeist
03-15-2011, 07:40 AM
If you like it buy it. I did.
I did, too - no regrets.
Amanda
03-15-2011, 08:16 AM
See? And as much as I appreciate being able to hear this...I would by no means ever have bought it. I guess the feelings I have towards the film itself just taint the score for me. I just never quite felt it gelled...
sintesi
03-27-2011, 12:32 AM
I'm English too, and Rosenman's scores sound entirely American to me. Even the lighter moments of Star Trek IV have that mid 20th Century Americana sound.
It least it's distinctively his own melody, which can't exactly be said for Horner's plagiarisms. Besides, that autopilot scoring only really came apparent throughout the last decade of his major films score, before he was diagnosed with fronto-temporal dementia. That's a crippling illness, and perhaps it took a slowly progressive effect on the quality of his output. One can't leave that out of the equation.
Also, Herrmann in some of his lower moments wrote of a distaste for the medium and aspired to be a world renowned conductor. This is true in particular for those more classically trained composers, who always tried to reserve time for the concert hall along with writing new works for opera, and ballet etc...
I'll also remind you that Herrmann "believed that only his God-like incalculable genius could save it from total oblivion." But his abrasive personality doesn't diminish the power of his works, just as Rosenman's arrogance does not. Clearly Herrmann is the superior film composer, but that doesn't mean one should therefore dismiss the idiosyncratic genius of East of Eden, Rebel Without A Cause, The Cobweb, Fantastic Voyage, Beneath The Planet of the Apes, A Man Called Horse, The Car, The Lord of the Ring and The Prophecy - And merely focus on the relatively mediocre Star Trek IV score.
Fantastic Voyage, Beneath The Planet of the Apes, and The Cobweb are condescending - really? Three, hardcore, uncompromisingly atonal scores, worthy of Arnold Schoenberg and Roger Sessions? Sounds to me like you've just listened to Star Trek IV, Robocop 2, and made your mind up.
Thank you! I wondered if anyone was going to step up and point out the rest of Leonard Rosenman's career. He wasn't my favorite composer, but he was clearly capable of incredibly resonant, distinctive work. And, for the record, I thought he earned his Oscar nomination for ST IV, even though it isn't my favorite Trek score.
Faleel
08-10-2011, 08:27 AM
Here is the booklet scans Star Trek V.rar (
http://www.mediafire.com/?nguce51pc373mzs)
and I love Rosenmans score.
MrGhostface
08-10-2011, 10:34 AM
See? And as much as I appreciate being able to hear this...I would by no means ever have bought it. I guess the feelings I have towards the film itself just taint the score for me. I just never quite felt it gelled...
Well, apart from one or two nice character moments, Star Trek V is a crock of shit. Sorry but there's no other way to describe it. The story concept is incredibly weak... I mean, we're in a universe where - before Worf's Klingon bollocks and all of DS9 - no advanced species believes in a god anymore, so let's have the movie be about, um... god!. So regardless of the fact that this movie concludes with the idea that the human soul is really the root of good and evil it's just wasted two hours trying to answer a question that it can't answer with any real satisfaction. So from a very shaky foundation let's throw in a first-time director who can't actually direct, the worst visual effects of the entire series and some cringeworthy attempts at humour which, unlike the previous movie's character-driven humour, pretty descends into slapstick. I've been a lifelong Star Trek fan, but those campfire scenes and the bit where Sybok tries to seduce Kirk, Spock and McCoy aside, Star Trek V is a fucking lousy movie. I think it's also a turning point for Goldsmith. Sure, he did a couple of great scores afterwards (I'd say Basic Instinct was the best of those), but his work on ST5 is mostl;yfunoriginal and at times it feels like he's actually lampooning.
Faleel
08-12-2011, 04:58 AM
I would say STV is pretty good, until the track "Well Done" and never picks back up until "A Busy Man"
TazerMonkey
08-12-2011, 05:58 AM
See? And as much as I appreciate being able to hear this...I would by no means ever have bought it. I guess the feelings I have towards the film itself just taint the score for me. I just never quite felt it gelled...
I feel pretty much the same. The film is certainly a miscalculation (of mythic proportions?), unsure if it wants to be a meditation on friendship and spirituality or a self-parody, and I think this tonal problem seeped into Goldsmith's scoring.
When this album was released, I bought into the hype over at the FSM boards (OMGZ unreleased digital JERRY!!!) and decided that the samples were intriguing enough to merit a purchase; I hadn't gotten Goldsmith's "Motion Picture" score yet either, and the thought of the Klingon motive is crystalline sound was very tempting. Yet after I listened to the album, I felt ambivalent about it. Oh well, I thought, it'll grow on me. Several listens later, ambivalence verged on disgust.
Yes, the SQ is very nice indeed, and sure it's better than 95% of what passes for film music nowadays, but it's so damn goofy. Sybok's spirituality theme, or whatever the hell that synth line was supposed to be, sounded like something from a cartoon. Even the much-lauded "The Mountain" is second-rate Americana; decent, but nothing special in the grand scheme of things. "The Motion Picture" blows this score out of the water, and even "First Contact," with it's gorgeous theme, is greatly superior. I sold my copy of this album after it went OOP and I haven't looked back since. It's B-grade Goldsmith. An improvement to bring back his themes over Rosenman's farcical effort (not a fan, sorry, but I won't deny his chops in other, better work), but still a cut down from the cream of the crop and certainly not worth exorbitant sums of money or hard drive space, not when there's so much better material out there.
jjohnni
08-14-2011, 06:36 PM
already have the la-la-land edition
hollywoodmusiclover
11-14-2011, 07:29 AM
is a re up possible?.
Faleel
11-14-2011, 07:41 AM
even "First Contact," with it's gorgeous theme, is greatly superior.
The "Picard" theme is all FC got (besides "Red Alert" and "End Credits")
TazerMonkey
11-15-2011, 01:48 AM
I somewhat take back that statement: "First Contact" as a whole is not much better than Star Trek V, but that theme reaches a level far beyond anything unique to Trek V. That may partly be due to the fact that FC is a much better movie, and thus I can actually connect to the music emotionally, but either way it holds true for me that Trek V was way, way overhyped.
Faleel
11-15-2011, 01:55 AM
IMO I find STV to be the best (yes I said it the BEST) of the ST goldsmith action scores, but its not just the action that is good IMHO, for example in the second track (mind meld) at 0:52 with the pizzicato buildup just gets me excited (not to mention the Star Trek TMP theme statement just seconds later)
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and really, is Sybocks theme anymore goofy than here at 4:11/12? Star Wars ANH OST - The Tractor Beam/Chasm Crossfire - YouTube (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8begSJiLzY)
Sanico
11-15-2011, 03:39 AM
I also like the score of Star Trek V more over the First Contact. Well actually over any of the other Next Generations soundtracks.
The First Contact has a great theme of course and the 'Flight of the Phoenix' track missing in the original album, but the rest of the score just didn't work for me, unlike Trek V which there's always something going that keeps my attention.
The Mountain theme and it's gentle woodwinds version on 'Not Alone' & 'Cosmic Thoughts', the Sybok or God's theme (whatever it is the name of the theme), in the later half of the score that reminds the vger music sequences of ST:TMP.
Blocks of typical 80's Jerry's action writing mode in the middle and the two standout cues 'Let's Get Out of Here Part 1 & 2' in the end. The Enterprise theme as in 'A Tall Ship', that plays like a mini-reprise of the big Enterprise introduction track of TMP. Well even the Klingon theme pop out many times throughout the score.
So for me there is enough music here that brings me back to play it more often than any of the other Nex Gen scores. And also the fact that it's overall closer to ST: The Motion Picture, which happens to be my favorite score in the whole franchise
TazerMonkey
11-15-2011, 06:52 AM
ST: The Motion Picture, which happens to be my favorite score in the whole franchise
No argument from me there. Basically perfection.
tardis1916
12-03-2011, 04:48 PM
Awesome soundtrack :)
neilb1701
12-04-2011, 11:06 PM
Bought it second hand, a terrific soundtrack, makes up for a really poor film.
lesterjd
12-08-2011, 09:38 PM
Anybody out there care to re up load this great score as its out of print I think, and its not a patch on STTMP that's how they should have issued the CD and it's how a lot of people got into film scores in the first place.
sintesi
12-08-2011, 09:51 PM
Bought it second hand, a terrific soundtrack, makes up for a really poor film.
I can't really say it makes up for a poor film. I do think some people are conflating the viewing experience with the experience of Goldsmith's score, which is unfortunate. Goldsmith's scoring on STV isn't his best work, but does support a very substandard movie in a reasonably organic fashion. A large part of Goldsmith's later efforts unfortunately far surpassed the films he was hired to score.
jurassicbiff13
05-11-2012, 06:24 PM
Could someone please re-up this? It's sold out a while ago and I'd really like to get my hands on this score.
Faleel
05-11-2012, 07:26 PM
Could someone please re-up this? It's sold out a while ago and I'd really like to get my hands on this score.
Wait until the 15th, its rumored that Star Trek V will be reissued by Intrada then.
ssosmcin
05-12-2012, 12:42 AM
It's not a rumor (said like Arnold S.). It has been confirmed, Star Trek V will be reissued by Intrada and with art to match previous TOS Trek movie releases.
hollywoodmusiclover
07-17-2012, 01:52 AM
Can someone reup this? I used to have it, but my computer took a swan dive a few weeks back now. And I still havent recieved the copy I orderd of the re issue yet. And if someone has a copy of star Trek III can you pm me as well, same thing still havent gotten the disc i have ordered.
I dont care if its 320 or 185 or whatever, i just cant take not listening to these great soundtracks while waiting for them to arrive in my hand.
gkaplan59
07-17-2012, 02:00 AM
Yes, I'd love this one as well. Please and thank you :)
scifi1972
11-08-2012, 07:25 AM
I would also love a re-up of the Star Trek V score. I had it, but lost everything when both my external HD & my iPod died.
soundtrekker
11-09-2012, 01:01 PM
Jerry Goldsmith - STAR TREK V The Final Frontier (La-La Land)
Format: Flac
(including booklet scan)
No password
links:
ST-TFF.part1.rar download - 2shared (
http://www.2shared.com/file/T8abYPjC/ST-TFFpart1.html)
ST-TFF.part2.rar download - 2shared (
http://www.2shared.com/file/p5O5XZ37/ST-TFFpart2.html)
ST-TFF.part3.rar download - 2shared (
http://www.2shared.com/file/1n91102m/ST-TFFpart3.html)
ST-TFF.part4.rar download - 2shared (
http://www.2shared.com/file/ZJYja2RF/ST-TFFpart4.html)
ST-TFF.part5.rar download - 2shared (
http://www.2shared.com/file/4pxPcVdW/ST-TFFpart5.html)
ST-TFF.part6.rar download - 2shared (
http://www.2shared.com/file/3PcCWzGB/ST-TFFpart6.html)
ST-TFF.part7.rar download - 2shared (
http://www.2shared.com/file/FjMOJItO/ST-TFFpart7.html)
castas
11-11-2012, 01:54 AM
Thankyou
JW131
05-18-2013, 10:14 PM
Thank you
Dreamrevolution
05-24-2013, 08:58 PM
Thank You very Much. :)
Misteretc
07-10-2013, 10:59 PM
Thanks!
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