Latias
11-20-2010, 04:15 PM
FF8, always known as <one> of the best FF series in Square. However, compared to FF7 or 9, there was too many mystery in this game that related to both protagonist (Squall and Rinoa) and even the final boss (Ultimecia). Unlike FF7, the mystery was explained in the later of the game, but in FF8, there was some questions remain to debate.
To clear all the mist in the clouds, Dissidia FF has the answers related to such mysteries of these characters. I don't know where is the source (as my friend in FB sent me the information in Chinese), if you happen to know it please let me know so that I can credit that people.
The information here was translated and edited a bit.
Rinoa is Ultimicia
Maybe it sounds weird, but please read on. I strongly believe that rinoa and ultimicia is simply the same person. The following is from the game I said, is indeed a fact, but certainly not square in the evaluation of everything that I say can only be used as an ordinary argument also. At below, I will enumerate my point of view.
1. Sorceress never dead in this story.
Why? Very simple, this game not mentioned how a sorceress was killed or dead, even Adel. Squall killed Adel in Lunatic Pandora, but the game can be said is Elone transfer the power of soceress to the past of Adel so Adel was not killed. Also, we all can see, Cid was much older than the Edea.
We see the following passage is Ultimecia dying (in the last one) to say:
"Looking back to your childhood ... ..." "Your feeling ... ..." "Your words ... ..." "Time ... ..." "... will not wait forever ..." "No matter how hard you to pay close attention to ... ..." "It still goes ... ... "
Why 'time will not wait?' No matter how hard to pay close attention to? It can be an argument that Rinoa tries to keep Squall alive in the later of the age, but she failed.
Ultimecia want to change the past -> Squall died -> final Rinoa as Ultimecia -> then go back to the past. This is a cycle, in fact, only two possibilities:
Ultimicia go back to the future of their cause (which she did not go back to the reason).
Ultimicia clearly what they want to change anything, go back, the success (in this case she will not let Squall die.)
2. Location of the final stage
Why at behind of the orphanage? At the beginning of the game, there was such phrases: "I'll be here waiting, I promise ... ..." and so on, and Rinoa also said she would go there to find Squall. Why Ultimecia has the world at her when her fortress is located in the back of an orphanage? The answer is, she was there waiting for Squall. Even though the fusion of her and the GF make her lost her consciousness and memories, she still remembered this promise that she made with Squall. The space-time compression that she made was just to meet Squall in the past.
3. The ring of Squall
Remember the ring, Griever? The ring was with him at the beginning. Then Zell takes from Squall, and gave to Rinoa. In the final boss, Ultimecia summoned Griever. Why Griever was under the possession of Ultimecia at the later of the game?
4. Wings
Ultimecia has black wings, Rinoa has white. White = Good, Black = Evil. No support facts on this yet.
5. Ending Animation
There was 3 places in the ending movie, Ultimecia appears. It was pretty short, and hard to recognize. Squaresoft is not stupid to waste the effort to make she appears, no? I know, I say these things without any authority, but can you people do the things I said in the game appear?
6. After FF8 game, Dissidia
DFF has an odd dialogue when Ultimecia meets with Squall (before the fight). �踊りましょうか?"
Remember when Squall meet Rinoa for first time? Rinoa asked Squall to dance.Why Ultimecia will asks Squall to dance?

Then, the EQ of Ultimecia.

These 3 weapons, ヴァルキリー、カーディナル、シューティングスター, are all Rinoa's weapon! Particularly the weapon that Ultimecia uses when LV 100, known as ューティングスター(shooting star).
I think so, although there is no square. It might be something unbeliveable. Why Squaresoft left so much mysteries in the end? Is it Ultimecia (Rinoa of future)?
DFF : Ultimicia's last words: "Have you thought about? ... ... The kind of feeling when young, then when the words of the mood ... ... ... ... ... ... grow up ... ... give up anything left behind After what ... ... ... ... "can be seen as Ultimecia's past as a can be Rinoa, and the memory with Squall in the past.
Although the evidence is not sufficient to fully determine the Ultimecia = Rinoa, but many players are already beginning to believe that the harsh reality ^ _ ^
FF8 has suddenly increased number of degrees, maybe this is how Square Enix/ Squaresoft to earn money...
What is your opinion on this?
To clear all the mist in the clouds, Dissidia FF has the answers related to such mysteries of these characters. I don't know where is the source (as my friend in FB sent me the information in Chinese), if you happen to know it please let me know so that I can credit that people.
The information here was translated and edited a bit.
Rinoa is Ultimicia
Maybe it sounds weird, but please read on. I strongly believe that rinoa and ultimicia is simply the same person. The following is from the game I said, is indeed a fact, but certainly not square in the evaluation of everything that I say can only be used as an ordinary argument also. At below, I will enumerate my point of view.
1. Sorceress never dead in this story.
Why? Very simple, this game not mentioned how a sorceress was killed or dead, even Adel. Squall killed Adel in Lunatic Pandora, but the game can be said is Elone transfer the power of soceress to the past of Adel so Adel was not killed. Also, we all can see, Cid was much older than the Edea.
We see the following passage is Ultimecia dying (in the last one) to say:
"Looking back to your childhood ... ..." "Your feeling ... ..." "Your words ... ..." "Time ... ..." "... will not wait forever ..." "No matter how hard you to pay close attention to ... ..." "It still goes ... ... "
Why 'time will not wait?' No matter how hard to pay close attention to? It can be an argument that Rinoa tries to keep Squall alive in the later of the age, but she failed.
Ultimecia want to change the past -> Squall died -> final Rinoa as Ultimecia -> then go back to the past. This is a cycle, in fact, only two possibilities:
Ultimicia go back to the future of their cause (which she did not go back to the reason).
Ultimicia clearly what they want to change anything, go back, the success (in this case she will not let Squall die.)
2. Location of the final stage
Why at behind of the orphanage? At the beginning of the game, there was such phrases: "I'll be here waiting, I promise ... ..." and so on, and Rinoa also said she would go there to find Squall. Why Ultimecia has the world at her when her fortress is located in the back of an orphanage? The answer is, she was there waiting for Squall. Even though the fusion of her and the GF make her lost her consciousness and memories, she still remembered this promise that she made with Squall. The space-time compression that she made was just to meet Squall in the past.
3. The ring of Squall
Remember the ring, Griever? The ring was with him at the beginning. Then Zell takes from Squall, and gave to Rinoa. In the final boss, Ultimecia summoned Griever. Why Griever was under the possession of Ultimecia at the later of the game?
4. Wings
Ultimecia has black wings, Rinoa has white. White = Good, Black = Evil. No support facts on this yet.
5. Ending Animation
There was 3 places in the ending movie, Ultimecia appears. It was pretty short, and hard to recognize. Squaresoft is not stupid to waste the effort to make she appears, no? I know, I say these things without any authority, but can you people do the things I said in the game appear?
6. After FF8 game, Dissidia
DFF has an odd dialogue when Ultimecia meets with Squall (before the fight). �踊りましょうか?"

Remember when Squall meet Rinoa for first time? Rinoa asked Squall to dance.Why Ultimecia will asks Squall to dance?

Then, the EQ of Ultimecia.

These 3 weapons, ヴァルキリー、カーディナル、シューティングスター, are all Rinoa's weapon! Particularly the weapon that Ultimecia uses when LV 100, known as ューティングスター(shooting star).
I think so, although there is no square. It might be something unbeliveable. Why Squaresoft left so much mysteries in the end? Is it Ultimecia (Rinoa of future)?
DFF : Ultimicia's last words: "Have you thought about? ... ... The kind of feeling when young, then when the words of the mood ... ... ... ... ... ... grow up ... ... give up anything left behind After what ... ... ... ... "can be seen as Ultimecia's past as a can be Rinoa, and the memory with Squall in the past.
Although the evidence is not sufficient to fully determine the Ultimecia = Rinoa, but many players are already beginning to believe that the harsh reality ^ _ ^
FF8 has suddenly increased number of degrees, maybe this is how Square Enix/ Squaresoft to earn money...
What is your opinion on this?