Darth Revan
01-12-2010, 12:35 PM
So what was done to the Superman and Batman franchises, is now being done to Spiderman. No surprises there tbh, and I admit I was disappointed with Spiderman 3.
Still, considering how Batman Begins/The Dark Knight has seemingly revived the Batman legacy, this could be a good thing for Spiderman. Though, considering Disney now owns Marvel, it's probably going to be streamlined a bit to keep in touch with Disney and how they do things nowadays.
I honestly felt that Spider Man 3 was a fitting conclusion to the series and when I heard talk of a possible SM4, I grew a tad concerned, thinking, 'Are they just milking the series for more money now?'. However, I must say I'm liking this a bit better now. I mean, with SM3's ending, another sequel seemed impossible, at least not without sacrificing quality with the absence of one of the most important characters. But maybe this is for the best.
topopoz
01-12-2010, 09:43 PM
I would watch another Spider Man movie, if they bring the sarcastic side of the Peter Parker of the comics, which didn't existed in Raimi's Movies.
ggctuk2005
01-12-2010, 09:44 PM
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/urgent-spider-man-4-scrapped-as-is-raimi-and-cast-out-franchise-reboot-planned/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/urgent-spider-man-4-scrapped-as-is-raimi-and-cast-out-franchise-reboot-planned/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/01/spider-man-film-gets-reboot-sam-raimi-tobey-maguire-out.html
So, Sony decide to reboot Spider-Man eight years after the current (now, last) series began, and they've booted Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst and co, all because Raimi said he couldn't meet the deadline Sony wanted for the fourth film (to be released in 2011) What are your thoughts on this?
Here is what Raimi had planned for Spider-Man 4:
The Vulture, and Felicia Hardy, who becomes "Vulturette" would have been the two villains of the film, furthering the idea of the Sinister Six. Possibly, Spider-Man 4 would have tied in with Spider-Man 5.
If it doesn't exist in film format, make it. If it does, reboot it. That seems to be the general concensus nowadays.
The following film series have rebooted in the past decade:
- Spider-Man (recent addition to the list)
- Tomb Raider
- DOOM
- Batman (Starting with batman begins)
- Star Trek
- Superman (Starting with Superman Returns)
- Highlander
- The Incredible Hulk
- Fantastic Four
There's probably more. That's just a taster.
This is the worst decision Sony could make.
I would watch another Spider Man movie, if they bring the sarcastic side of the Peter Parker of the comics, which didn't existed in Raimi's Movies.
He definitely makes snappy remarks, just not as often as a lot of people want out of Spider-Man. That aspect of his character actually tends to get kind of exaggerated, though. He is well known for making jokes during battles, but not especially outside of that context and not always (especially if it's a really serious and personal battle, which a lot of the ones in the movies were.)
I do think the movies could do a better job of highlighting that aspect of his personality but I don't think it was a major oversight.
I honestly felt that Spider Man 3 was a fitting conclusion to the series and when I heard talk of a possible SM4, I grew a tad concerned, thinking, 'Are they just milking the series for more money now?'. However, I must say I'm liking this a bit better now. I mean, with SM3's ending, another sequel seemed impossible, at least not without sacrificing quality with the absence of one of the most important characters. But maybe this is for the best.
Do you mean Harry? Harry was dead in the comics for a very long time and they went on... he was only very recently brought back to life, actually. I don't see any reason why the movies couldn't continue without him. He's obviously a huge part of Pete's life, but the story material to be drawn on from Spider-Man is endless and doesn't require Harry's presence at all. In fact, while almost every retelling has included Harry from the very beginning in Pete's high school days, originally Pete and Harry met in college, many years into the run of Amazing Spider-Man.
This is the worst decision Sony could make.
I don't think that's necessarily true. It could go either way at this point. I think this could actually be a good thing, but only if the remake is GREAT. Superhero movies have had the bar raised since Spider-Man originally came out and I think if they take inspiration from The Dark Knight and Iron Man, they could have something with more lasting relevance and power than the existing Spider-Man trilogy.
Spidey's my favorite character of all time, and I absolutely love the Raimi movies, but I also recognize there's more that could have been done with him and if this movie actually accomplishes it, I'll be pretty thrilled. I do have some major doubts though. The movie has to be GREAT to be worth a reboot. If it's even just "good" then it won't be worth itthey might as well just make Spider-Man 4 without Raimi and Maguire in that case.
Edmond Dantes
01-12-2010, 10:21 PM
I hated Spider-Man 3. Toby's little dancing act was shitty, Dunst was shitty looking, James Franco's acting major cockmeat, Topher Grace, well, him I liked as Venom, and that blonde girl... Kate Bosworth...? Whatever, I liked her too. The movie was just dumb. I loved when Stan Lee appeared in it for about 3 seconds. Stan is a god. I liked Toby in Spidey 1 ans 2. But in 3, no. Just no.
matt damon
01-12-2010, 10:32 PM
i don't know how you can reboot a series that's so recent! but whatever, i don't know if a reboot is such a good idea. i mean, tobey is iconic in the role, and the reboot will be telling basically the same story as the first one (i assume)
i want an xmen reboot (just to get a redone, better, good phoenix story, really) but idk, i like the cast and the director that they had
Lunchbox McGillicuddy
01-12-2010, 10:58 PM
I'd rather Transformers reboot than Spider-Man :o
James cameron 4 spiderman director.
Magus
01-13-2010, 12:51 AM
They should remake Spider-Man 3 instead.
This time without all the horse shit.
Edmond Dantes
01-13-2010, 01:52 AM
They should remake Spider-Man 3 instead.
This time without all the horse shit.
YES. I totally agree, Magus.
topopoz
01-13-2010, 03:09 AM
James cameron 4 spiderman director.
Nay, Sam Raimi was Okay, but what Spider Man needs is a change of Script Rather Directing.
The thing about Spider-Man 3 is that Raimi got stuck putting a lot of extra shit in it he didn't want. It would have been an amazing movie if you removed the symbiote and the useless "Gwen" who wasn't Gwen at all. And... both those things are tied together.
That said, I'm weird in that Spider-Man 3 is actually my favorite of the trilogy. I think it's amazing. But that's because I enjoy it as a bizarro type of thing. Raimi turned it upside down because he was forced to include Venom, and as a fan of his past work I actually found the absurdity of the movie incredibly enjoyable. Pete's retarded dance scene is one of my favorite movie moments of all time. It's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
I love this movie for all that but I also would love to see a different kind of Spider-Man movie so I'm staying open minded to this.
i don't know how you can reboot a series that's so recent! but whatever, i don't know if a reboot is such a good idea. i mean, tobey is iconic in the role, and the reboot will be telling basically the same story as the first one (i assume)
i want an xmen reboot (just to get a redone, better, good phoenix story, really) but idk, i like the cast and the director that they had
They did it with Hulk and they're doing it with Fantastic 4. My personal theory is that Marvel is trying to build up a "movie universe" comprised of films that get the characters to where they want to be for crossover stuff like the Avengers.
The simpler idea is that they just reboot stuff when it starts to suck, which is certainly the case with Hulk and F4 and popularly believed to be the case with Spider-Man 3 as well.
spyboy
01-13-2010, 05:21 AM
Still the best news I've heard in awhile. Don't really care to see any more after the abomination known as 3. Though I'm glad they did attempt to add Gwen Stacy.
3 is awesome. Don't front.
:neg:
Dr Faustus
01-13-2010, 05:37 AM
The simpler idea is that they just reboot stuff when it starts to suck, which is certainly the case with Hulk and F4 and popularly believed to be the case with Spider-Man 3 as well.
They do that with the comics so I guess it's a nutural progression to carry that onto the screen, but I'm still pissed we won't get Malkovich as vulture under the helm of Raimi.
Edmond Dantes
01-13-2010, 06:14 AM
I'm frontin' Mike. its a stinkin' filthy slag of a film.
I still love you, Jere baby :-*
Edmond Dantes
01-13-2010, 06:24 AM
i know. but you can't have my Budweiser.
Do you mean Harry? Harry was dead in the comics for a very long time and they went on... he was only very recently brought back to life, actually. I don't see any reason why the movies couldn't continue without him. He's obviously a huge part of Pete's life, but the story material to be drawn on from Spider-Man is endless and doesn't require Harry's presence at all. In fact, while almost every retelling has included Harry from the very beginning in Pete's high school days, originally Pete and Harry met in college, many years into the run of Amazing Spider-Man.
I did, but you're absolutely right; he was gone longer than he was around in the comics. I guess it seems kind of strange to think of the movies as not including Harry, but in the end the person who keeps Peter going is Mary Jane, really. So, really, either way I suppose the movies could continue :D
Oh, and on a side note, I really never quite understood all my friends who talked SM3 down for "ZOMG PETER TERNED EMO!!1!!1!!!!" and the dance scene; as TK said, the scene was funny (as was intended), and added a lot to the movie. To be honest, I really thought it brought out a lot more of the Peter Parker from the comics; his character seemed more mellowed-out in the first two, but sort of gained back some of his witty and sarcastic humor in the third film. SM2 will always be my favorite of the Spider Man movies, but 3 is a close second.
i know. but you can't have my Budweiser.
I don't drink.
But, I totally swallow~
Marceline
01-13-2010, 06:32 AM
I don't drink.
But, I totally swallow~
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Edmond Dantes
01-13-2010, 06:58 AM
I don't drink.
But, I totally swallow~
yikes.
I don't drink.
But, I totally swallow~
Dude, holy catsnjammers! :O
jakob
01-13-2010, 07:21 AM
I never really liked Toby Maguire much as Spiderman, but I must say this is an odd move for Sony.
The Ricky
01-13-2010, 12:00 PM
They're rebooting F4? Can they at least keep Micheal Chiklis?
Lukey
01-13-2010, 05:39 PM
Anywhere they go with an F4 reboot can only be an improvement, those two films were serious balls (apart from Doug Jones's Silver Surfer). Maybe this time Galactus will be more than just a big shadow!
At first I was indifferent toward a Spider-Man reboot because I wasn't really interested in the series after 3, but I still would have preferred Raimi etc. to have stayed with it. I like the idea that TK said of the Marvel films all trying to be created in the one universe. It's obviously the idea they had in mind with their 2008 films. And it gives me hope that we're going to see a really well done Daredevil film.
matt damon
01-14-2010, 01:14 AM
i liked the F4 movies, but i am not a diehard f4 fan AND i like campy stuff a lot, so maybe it made it bearable.
if they are making a one universe thing, then it'd be neat to see how they do x-men, although for the most part, aside from wolverine, really, x-men is pretty self contained. imo redo an x-men 3!!! /end nonemotional, noninvested fanrant
Marceline
01-14-2010, 02:22 AM
Topher Grace was always my ideal choice for Peter Parker, but he's already been in the last trilogy, and he's too old to play a high school student now. :(
Edmond Dantes
01-14-2010, 02:29 AM
they could have done some camera trickery.
The Ricky
01-15-2010, 11:15 AM
It needs some Joe Pesci!
parker1
01-16-2010, 04:17 AM
I loved all the spider-man movies, with SM3, yes, SPIDER-MAN 3 being my favorite. unless I'm cast as petey, I'll pass on this reboot shit
Marceline
01-16-2010, 05:18 AM
http://i10.tinypic.com/525ax06.gif
Spider-man 3 should be everyone's favorite.
I think Spider Man 3 is unfairly hated you can bitch and moan about the dancing but it was awesome and you know it!
Edmond Dantes
01-16-2010, 05:48 PM
alright. i'll admit it. there were SOME parts that were awesome. SOME. not all. SOME.
Marceline
01-20-2010, 03:58 AM
http://chud.com/articles/articles/22215/1/WELCOME-TO-SMALLVILLE-SPIDER-MAN/Page1.html
Looks like Ultimate Spidey is going to be the major influence for the reboot, which was what I was hoping for. Hope they do MJ like she is there, I think she's so adorable in that universe.
Edmond Dantes
01-20-2010, 04:41 AM
i love the earlier Smallvilles, the ones with the Duke boy in it... then he just HAD to go and have a god damn heart attack. thanks a lot, Bo. thanks a whole damn lot.
parker1
01-20-2010, 06:23 AM
I think Spider Man 3 is unfairly hated you can bitch and moan about the dancing but it was awesome and you know it!
:thumbsup:
Bah, I was really hoping for not a retelling of the origin. I hope they're just going to have him already be spider-man and not go through the whole process of Ben dying again. It's been done enough.
I agree it would be nice to see the story begin post-transformation, rather than simply retell the whole beginning to the letter. It should be aimed at fans of the comics, mainly, who already know how Spider-Man came to be, and want a movie that gives off the same persona and feel of the comics, rather than the more toned-down films we've already got. I love the three Spider-Man movies, don't get me wrong. It's just that I know a few people who enjoyed the comics, and were slightly offset by the movies that came out, and as I myself read some (not all) of the SM comics, I can say from experience that they differ significantly, and a comic-based movie would be an awesome thing to see.
matt damon
01-20-2010, 08:42 AM
plus, i don't think the origins need to be told again, since everyone already saw the first spiderman and everyone knows how he became spiderman
MossY
01-20-2010, 04:30 PM
I see the guy who directed (500) Days of Summer has been confirmed as the director of the reboot. I'm cool with that, liked (500) Days of Summer alright and I never thought that much of Sam Raimi anyway, CONTRARY TO EVERYONE ELSE.
technohive
02-06-2010, 02:58 PM
I have heard some rumors that it would be in 2012 already and the name who is in the top of the list to play spiderman is Robert Pattinson well if his be chosen as Spiderman then I will surely watch it so is my niece and friends
ggctuk2005
02-06-2010, 07:01 PM
Almost as bad a choice as Zac Efron (whose name is being bandied about on some forums). First off - he isn't American. The studios are highly likely to give an American actor the part. Second - he wouldn't make the 'geek' Peter Parker believable. Tobey Maguire pulled that off, and some other actors can too, but Pattison's not (yet) capable of pulling it off.
Although I honestly have less against him than I do Efron.
Oh man, I kinda do hope for Zac! Rob'd love it ^______^
ggctuk2005
02-06-2010, 10:08 PM
Effron won't get it. Disney promised no interference, and they have him contracted. I'm certain Disney won't breach that. Anyway, he can't do a convincing Peter Parker either.
If Zac Effron becomes Spiderman, the universe will probably implode.
I really don't like the look of this reboot, the only silver lining I see is a chance to see a better handling of the villains (although, Green Goblin and Doc Ock probably couldn't be handled any better then they were no matter how hard they tried).
Venom and New Goblin were poorly handled imo, neither had much screen time and there wasn't really a decent one on one between venom and spiderman, which was lame, considering Venom's supposed to be one of his greatest enemies.
technohive
02-07-2010, 05:35 PM
So as for now their is no news on who will play Spiderman? Too bad coz the producer tends to change all the major actors and actresses in the movie which makes me worry at its outcome
Edmond Dantes
02-07-2010, 05:37 PM
Is it a good thing that I have the Collector's Edition boxed set of Spider-Man 1? I mean, will it be worth money someday, like a comic book, or what?
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