Hey this is my first post but i just starting playing ff1 today and wondered if anyone else has started recently, im using fighter monk white mage and black mage for my group, any thoughts or comments neone like to share about ff1 would be great

That party will bring you success easily, probably the best a first timer could go with, tbh.

Um, well it's pure nostalgia bliss, imo. Of course I played it when it came out, so ya know, of course our results may vary :erm: But, it's a fun, oldschool romp and I hope you enjoy it ^_^

yeah im having a blast at it, its classic ive played 7-12 excluding X2, surprised ive havent tried ff1 till now lol, good story lots of enemies on screen at a time too really kool

I highly recommend VI, if you ever have the chance/want to play another 'classic.'

Allen should be along to recommend IV, sometime today, as well ;)

im going to play that one eventually i original had played vi when it was super nes but that was a whole ago now, prolly just dload anthology

Anthology version has horrible lag to access the menu. Utterly ridiculous.

Grab a GBA emulator and play the port.

really that insane thanks for the heads up

i hate how ports work out sometimes man like the ff7 port to pc just terrible sound like my god, the port for ff1 n ff2 (origns) is top notch

The script for the port of VI was retranslated and while it is now composed of "better" english it still irks me because I'm so used to the original.

Still, my SNES is wonky and Anthology has the lag, so it's the best I can get. I deal.

You can use the edit button on your posts to avoid double posting if no one has responded yet.

oh k sorry bout that bud, very much new to whole forum thing lol how many hours of game play would you say is in ff 1

I started a game yesterday using the same team, this is also my first real attempt of a play through. My characters are all at about level 8 and I'm at a village of elves (I forget it's real name). Just been levelling up around this area, then off to help the elves

o really kool man im just on my way to get the mystic key lol i stopped for a while till just about now lol bout to get in the groove and n try n beat this game lol

Okay, call me lame but I can't go no more than two complete battles without dying. Everyone on my team is annihilated by the third battle, and thus, I have given up on FFI. The game seems really difficult to me, and I know I'm choosing the wrong types to start with.

Who did you start with?

Merging this with the other thread on the topic.

Thanks, Neg :)

npnp. I used the same team that Joe mentioned, my first time. I've never really felt saucy enough to use teams like, say All Thieves or All White Mages. I usually used Fighter, Thief, White Mage, Black Mage.

So, what party is it that won't let you get past two battles?

I wanted to start the FF series from the beginning, and so I started with I. I tried it last fall when I decided I would give RPG games a chance because I never liked playing them when I was a kid.

The first time around, I chose a fighter, a white and black mage, and I can't remember the last one. I died in my 2nd battle. I noticed that the fighters landed the most HP, so I tried three fighters but I still died. Don't remember the other variations, but I just gave up on it after a few more tries. So I bought VII and played that instead.

When I fix my desktop, I'll have to try it again with that lineup.

It is a grind-y affair, it's an oldschool rpg, afterall. Leveling is something you're going to have to do a lot. As long as you use a balanced party and put the time in, you shouldn't have any trouble.

If you find that you don't like grinding you can always cheat. Be warned that pretty much all the other 'classics' require just as much :(

Oh I don't mind doing the leveling. I played IV after I finished VII, and it was much harder for me because I couldn't rush through battles like I did with VII. IV actually required some strategy and patience, which is a virtue I lack, while VII gave me access to powers and summons from the get-go. I'll def try I again, though, and see about the other classics.

If you played the hard version of IV, then you'll be fine.

I played the PS version of IV... is that the hard version?

It is indeed!

As far as I know the only easy version was the SNES release.

Did some research and they made EasyType for the super famicon, too.

Cool! Thanks for the info and the help!

yeah im having a blast at it, its classic ive played 7-12 excluding X2, surprised ive havent tried ff1 till now lol, good story lots of enemies on screen at a time too really kool

IV man. IV You can't go wrong. That game is just great!

Okay, so it took him a couple days. I WAS STILL RIGHT.

I didn't see this thread.

But I knew you would~

True, True. IV GO PLAY IT NOW bonecrackinjoe!

Allen is dyslexic. You do the math, Joe


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I wanted to start the FF series from the beginning, and so I started with I. I tried it last fall when I decided I would give RPG games a chance because I never liked playing them when I was a kid.

The first time around, I chose a fighter, a white and black mage, and I can't remember the last one. I died in my 2nd battle. I noticed that the fighters landed the most HP, so I tried three fighters but I still died. Don't remember the other variations, but I just gave up on it after a few more tries. So I bought VII and played that instead.

When I fix my desktop, I'll have to try it again with that lineup.

I don't mean to be insulting your intelligence, but did you properly equip everybody? You start out with enough money to buy everybody weapons and armor in the first town, and it makes a HUGE difference. Fighter, x, White Mage, Black Mage is basically the most balanced party, so it shouldn't be too tough as long as you know the best way to equip yourself. Bad equipment makes this game very excessively difficult.

Now, one of my parties died in the second battle, but that's because it was all thieves.

I'm now at level 15 and have just beaten the Vampire in Terra/Earth Shrine. My warrior and monk destroy everything in sight, and fire 3 is an awesome move. You really do need to level up early on in this game, the forests around Elfheim are great, and I did quite a bit of grinding in the 'Walk of the giants' in Earth Shrine

Now, one of my parties died in the second battle, but that's because it was all thieves.

hmmm...

I don't mean to be insulting your intelligence, but did you properly equip everybody? You start out with enough money to buy everybody weapons and armor in the first town, and it makes a HUGE difference. Fighter, x, White Mage, Black Mage is basically the most balanced party, so it shouldn't be too tough as long as you know the best way to equip yourself. Bad equipment makes this game very excessively difficult.

No worries, you're not insulting my intelligence... just my gameplaying skills (or lack thereof) :) :)

I probably didn't equip everybody enough. I was a complete n00b and didn't get familiarized enough with the game... I just dove right in thinking it would be as simple as a Mario game ^^

I'll know what to do with the line up now, though. Thanks to you and everyone else for the starting line up info.

I finished the Earth Shrine last night and now have the airship and class change! After getting class change I tried to do the Volcano, but managed to make it to the boss with only my Knight and Master (with 22hp), both my wizards are dead and I had no potions left or any means of healing. Going to level up a bit again before trying this

I usually go with Fighter, Thief, Red Mage, and Black Mage

I think it's funny that so many people like the FF series but haven't played FF1...it's still my favorite--well, 7 and 12 too, but they are just so different. It's like Negs says, you just level.

From the beginning:

Buy equiment, level, fight garland, go across the bridge, fight the friggin pirate and get the boat, level. Level, level, level, buy the silver sword, get the mystic key...level, level, beat Astos. Level, level, vampire, level, Lich, level level level, get the raft, Ice Cave for the Air ship, level level, Volcano/crazy chick with the arms, level level level level level blah blah blah....level level level level fight all the fiends again then chaos the end.

Anyway, its still my favorite.

I usually went for the Figher, Black Belt/ Thief, Red Mage, White Mage team

I choose Reds over Blacks cause later in the game offensive magic isnt as practical as having a strong hitting team, as you burn through the mp fast with the spells, its just more practical when trawling through a long ass dungeon to have melee that can rip through things rather then a mage whos gonna be useless after 5 or 6 fights.

Reds can melee decently with their swords, can throw out extra heals in emergencys and can use black spells for the occasional magic only enemy - all this makes them superior to the black mage in my view.

Warrior's are good at first.

Okay, call me lame but I can't go no more than two complete battles without dying. Everyone on my team is annihilated by the third battle, and thus, I have given up on FFI. The game seems really difficult to me, and I know I'm choosing the wrong types to start with.

Who did you start with?

I had those problems to at first, the NES version is far harder than the GBA version but... Even the NES version can be easy if you prepare, buy items and weapons before you go fight Garland and you'll be fine.

I've gotten pretty far in the NES version but I just can't beat it, to slow and hard... But I'm gonna beat the GBA version for sure. Its not like its a hard game its just kinda long. Still imagine if you were living in 1986 I bet it'd be major fun then.

What team do you like in Final Fantasy I? I've only used one team and it never fails.

Warrior
Thief
Red Mage
White Mage

I've never cared for Monks and Black Mages

Merging.

I've never cared for Monks and Black Mages

I never cared for Red Mages. I'm sure your team works just fine, though. As long as you don't pull something weird like four white mages, you should be fine.

High level Black Magic isn't needed to beat the game. Red Mages can use the lower level Black Magic (also unneeded) as well as heal. They are also excellent fighters. Black Mages can use all Black Magic Spells but they have horrible attack, and durribility. White Mages at least have decent HP.

High level Black Magic isn't needed to beat the game. Red Mages can use the lower level Black Magic (also unneeded) as well as heal. They are also excellent fighters. Black Mages can use all Black Magic Spells but they have horrible attack, and durribility. White Mages at least have decent HP.

Black Magic being needless is totally a strategy issue. I use black magic ALL the time, and it is just as effective as physical attacks in most cases. The problem with red mages is that they are too thinly spread. They don't do as good of a job with their healing as do white mages, nor with their attacks as with the fighter, nor with their offensive magic as with the black mage.

I normally went with a typical set up of Fighter plus White, Red and Black Mages. That way, the party is pretty balanced between physical hitting, healing and nuking, with the Red Mage fulfilling all three roles at once. Especially it's handy to have a back-up healer for the fight against Chaos in case the White Mage/Wizard goes down. :D

And Black magic is very useful in FFI - although the elemental bug in the original NES version did cause a few problems.

And Black magic is very useful in FFI - although the elemental bug in the original NES version did cause a few problems.


What is that? I don't think I've ever heard of "the elemental bug" in the NES version.

Warrior's are good at first.
Always good with mages supporting him.

Red Mages were leetsauce for me for the first 10-12 levels, but after that, they quickly went downhill. By "went downhill," I mean more like "flushed down a toilet." Once decent gear starts becoming available, Red Mage's physical damage is total crap compared to everybody but BM and WM. Their magic is half-assed because their damage at that point is crap compared to BM and that you had to make tradeoffs at just about every spell level. Plus, even at the end of the game, they couldn't cast anything higher than, what, level 6 spells? They're okay for clearing trash on the way to bosses, but when its time to actually kill a boss, they're all but useless. If you want the extra healing that badly, bring another WM instead. You'll get more heals, bigger heals, and twice as many Ruses and all those other spells that made 4WM parties possible.

edit: RM is brilliant in 8BT, though.

edit: RM is brilliant in 8BT, though.

AGREED. That webcomic is great.

I disagree. Black Mage's damage is limited by MP. Red Mages have no cost for their decent physical power. Yeah it's not as good as a Warrior but it's enough to kill most regular enemies. Like a Black Mage he can cast Haste and Temper on a physical attacker, but unlike a Black Mage he can help with healing and cast it on himself and do decent damage too. The Black Mage has access to Saber, but how does it help him? He'll do slightly better damage with his weak attacks. The Black Mage can do increadible group damae with -aga spells but for 30 MP. What happens when it runs out? Weak physical attacks. The Black Mage also has pathetic HP and low defense armor options meaning that bosses will kill him in one hit making him dependant on Protect or Protectera
which a White Mage would have to cast, taking her away from healing. A Red Mage has decent HP and can wear decent armor. Late in the game Curaga on a low HP character+Healaga will full heal the team while the other two charachers (who are usually physical fighters) attack.

I disagree. Black Mage's damage is limited by MP. Red Mages have no cost for their decent physical power. Yeah it's not as good as a Warrior but it's enough to kill most regular enemies. Like a Black Mage he can cast Haste and Temper on a physical attacker, but unlike a Black Mage he can help with healing and cast it on himself and do decent damage too. The Black Mage has access to Saber, but how does it help him? He'll do slightly better damage with his weak attacks. The Black Mage can do increadible group damae with -aga spells but for 30 MP. What happens when it runs out? Weak physical attacks. The Black Mage also has pathetic HP and low defense armor options meaning that bosses will kill him in one hit making him dependant on Protect or Protectera
which a White Mage would have to cast, taking her away from healing. A Red Mage has decent HP and can wear decent armor. Late in the game Curaga on a low HP character+Healaga will full heal the team while the other two charachers (who are usually physical fighters) attack.
Ethers. I have too many. =]
Also, there is always time for the white mage to cast Protectora or for the black mage to use an item that casts Protect.

What of there's a character at critical HP? Or two? You'll need to use a Potion and/or a heal spell. Then there's no time for Protect. That may result in a dead Black Mage or a loss of a physical attack.

I can't argue the Eithers though.

Well... you just heal heal heal until you can cast Protect[ora] so they last longer, lol.
Also, at least a small stock of elixirs helps when you need to fully heal a character so it can survive the next attack while you are also building up your defense.

It's not easy, Cagnazzo gave my team a hard time in the optional dungeons. Only my white mage and black mage survived that fight. Heck, they were the only ones left fighting halfway through the battle.
I did not know the optional dungeons were originally not part of the game when I picked up Dawn of Souls. I went into each one as it opened after beating a major boss like the Lich and Marilith ("crazy chick with the arms"). They were a very satisfying challenge, each one. Got pwned good a few times.
I figured those dungeons left me overprepared for Chaos, but there were times during that battle that I though I wouldn't make it with only one white wizard, but I did. =]

Now I just need to get around to finishing the NES version for the hell of it, see if I can work things out similarly.

Red Mages are only good until you get level 5 magic... then they're pretty much useless. You're better off with a Thief or Monk in its place if you have a WM and BM in your party already.

"Extra healing" is negligible from a RM since you should have a healthy stock of items. "Extra damage" comes better from a Monk.

Red Mages are a waste. "Jack of all trades, King of none".

I usually go with three Warriors and a White Mage. I don't like getting my ass handed to me on a silver platter, so I cop out.

I have a thing for Monks. I might go start a FFI game now. 2 Warrs, a Monk, and WM.

edit/update/whatever:

I started a FFI game with the above party setup. I named my toons "Hamma," "Sikkle," "Kazze," and "Smite." I was nodding off before they ding'd level 3.

My first initial party is always Warrior, Warrior, White Mage, Black Mage for some reason. I don't know why but that seems to give one of the easiest experiences. You have 2 tanks, a healer and a nuker. It can be somewhat costly though because you're having to buy spells for both mages and expensive gear for the Warriors but in the end it doesn't matter because you make so much Gil off of enemies that you'll never spend it all. I ended up with 999,999 Gil by the time I got to Chaos. (Final Fantasy: 20th Anniversary Edition)

After I beat the game I like to start over with a group of Warrior, Monk, Red Mage, White Mage to change it up a bit. I personally haven't tried any challenges yet such as a group of all White Mages or something. I like a challenge but I don't like to struggle in games.

My first party was Warrior, Monk, White Mage, Black Mage. Worked really well. Next time I'll try someting a bit harder like a Warrior, Red Mage, Thief, White Mage.