Goren
06-02-2009, 09:28 PM
Final Fantasy XIV (
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/823/823994.html) was announced at E3 coming in 2010.
*Links to video coming soon*
doomjockey
06-02-2009, 10:04 PM
Very cool. It looks to be an FFXI related. I think I recognized an Elvaan and Galka in the video. Makes me want to break my vow swearing off MMOs...
Goren
06-02-2009, 10:42 PM
Oh! Forgot to say that this game will be PS3 exclusive!
doomjockey
06-02-2009, 10:52 PM
Site is up:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/
And...might be a bubble burster but it's also for PC. No 360 though, sorry. :(
To hell with MMOs!
Guess this means I won't be playing it...
Sackboy
06-02-2009, 11:22 PM
I smell a FFXIV and beyond thread. FFXIII is moving on up.
mtirkmane
06-02-2009, 11:26 PM
What does that say for Versus then? Is it coming out before 14 but after 13?
RikkuYunaRinoa
06-02-2009, 11:49 PM
God I'm honestly more exited about this than I was about actually getting my PS3 at Christmas.
I can't wait!
Sackboy
06-03-2009, 01:38 AM
I stopped playing FFXI quite a while back. I think I may have to get into this one now.
Guernsey
06-03-2009, 04:37 AM
Why the hell did make this an MMO? Why can't they make us FF games again?!
RikkuYunaRinoa
06-03-2009, 08:21 PM
Erm....that would be the game currently being developed called "Final Fantasy XIII".
Purrr
06-03-2009, 09:28 PM
The fact that this is a PS3 exclusive is balls.
Sackboy
06-03-2009, 09:55 PM
Locke_FF36
06-03-2009, 11:59 PM
Why the hell did make this an MMO? Why can't they make us FF games again?!
its called FFXIII.
and to hell with FFXIV
RikkuYunaRinoa
06-04-2009, 12:21 AM
The fact that this is a PS3 exclusive is balls.
I think it's pretty funny. But I won't get upset if it does go to 360.
its called FFXIII.
I already said that.
Purrr
06-04-2009, 03:37 PM
I think it's pretty funny. But I won't get upset if it does go to 360.
Yeah, and really I should have nothing to be upset about as I don't really play MMOs anymore and Xbox 360 now have the Star Ocean series.
Also this'll probably be released on PC no doubt.
doomjockey
06-04-2009, 04:31 PM
Also this'll probably be released on PC no doubt.
No doubt at all. Official site has it listed already. TAKE THAT PS3 people. I'm swimming in your tears, etc etc.
Enkidoh
06-04-2009, 06:09 PM
Incidentally, although the teaser and screenshots/artwork shown on the site so far clearly show FFXI's races (although curiously, the galka seem to have lost their tails ;p), Square Enix have stated that FFXIV is not tied into FFXI's story or setting in any way - it's set in an entirely new and different world. Although that was pretty obvious, given the area shown in the teaser looks nothing like any zone in Vana'diel that I know of.
As for a 360 version, it's definitely possible, despite Sony's arrogant statements to the contrary - all Square Enix has to do is port the PC version, it's what they did with the 360 version of FFXI after all.
Sackboy
06-04-2009, 06:26 PM
if you want to be technical, Sony only said it would be a console exclusive at launch, which is pretty misleading. PC doesn't count as a console and Square has said it is still possible on 360.
Purrr
06-04-2009, 06:28 PM
Tbh I think a decent PC outshines any recent console in graphics. Get yourself a USB controller and wow it's a console :)
WhiteAltair
06-04-2009, 06:39 PM
I personally can't wait for the new FFXIV i think it will be awesome, hopefully the online is free though.
Purrr
06-04-2009, 07:30 PM
I personally can't wait for the new FFXIV i think it will be awesome, hopefully the online is free though.
lol it won't be. But maybe after this is released, FFXI will be come free. One can only hope~
Goren
06-04-2009, 07:36 PM
I am pretty sure they will shut down the servers.
WhiteAltair
06-04-2009, 08:42 PM
Yeah i wanted to play FF XI for awhile now, but then i got my ps3 and just played stuff on there. lol.
execrable gumwrapper
06-05-2009, 01:35 AM
But maybe after this is released, FFXI will be come free. One can only hope~
Most retarded idea ever.
doomjockey
06-05-2009, 01:40 AM
I am pretty sure they will shut down the servers.
They won't. Maybe I should've ported this tidbit over sooner.
I don't think they would cancel a game they're in the midst of porting to PS3. XIV will most likely run alongside FFXI like EQ and EQ2 manage to coexist.
Edit: Confirmed during SE's Q&A this morning.
Interestingly:
-XIV is NOT set in Vana'diel although it uses the same races
-does NOT use PlayOnline although you can transfer your friendlist
-will have a public beta
-will NOT replace FFXI (citing another full year of content for FFXI)
-will use worldwide cross-platform servers
-might not be restricted to just PC/PS3
I read most of this picking through G4TV's liveblog:
http://e3.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/696020/Live-Blog-Square-Enix-E3-2009-Press-Conference.html
Marceline
06-05-2009, 03:54 AM
The fact that this is a PS3 exclusive is balls.
Play it on the PC, bro!
TBH I thought the trailer looked amazing. I am half hoping the actual gameplay is good, and half hoping it sucks, because I don't have time to play an MMO at all!
FinFanI2XII
06-09-2009, 08:00 PM
From an article I read, XIV will start on PS3, then to PC, and then after that (as XI did), possibly move on to other platforms, but that of course is not confirmed.
They will also be maintaining/returning (however you look at it) to their Medieval roots.
I also have read that XI will by no means be shut down, especially since it has a years worth of development yet to be released.
And from the trailer I have gathered that the new world will be called Eorzea.
Marshall Lee
06-09-2009, 10:31 PM
So I guess that means that we won't be seeing a new Chrono game anytime soon if the "dream team" is working on yet another MMO :(
FinFanI2XII
06-10-2009, 12:27 AM
So I guess that means that we won't be seeing a new Chrono game anytime soon if the "dream team" is working on yet another MMO :(
Well they've been working on XIV for the past 5 years, and in that time they produced several games, so I wouldn't think they are limited in what they can or will release.
And with XI they still gave us X, X-2, Compilation of VII, and XII.
Though I didn't know Chrono games were still being produced, anything is possible these days :P
I'll only play it if it's free.
Marshall Lee
06-11-2009, 07:21 AM
Well they've been working on XIV for the past 5 years, and in that time they produced several games, so I wouldn't think they are limited in what they can or will release.
And with XI they still gave us X, X-2, Compilation of VII, and XII.
Though I didn't know Chrono games were still being produced, anything is possible these days :P
The main reason the "Dream Team" hasn't gotten together today to actually make a Chrono break or official Cross sequel is because they have been all preoccupied working on XI, and different teams worked on the various compilation of VII games, which is why they were all released very close in date. If the same team is in fact working on XIV then we can pretty much stop holding our breaths for a new Chrono title (not a port i.e. Chrono Trigger DS).
Harkus
06-11-2009, 03:51 PM
Looks pretty good, I was really surprised when they showed it at E3, didn't expect it. I've heard rumours it's free but to be honest I doubt it, SE would lose to much money.
doomjockey
06-11-2009, 08:59 PM
What the heck is Mitsuda up to these days?
FinFanI2XII
06-12-2009, 01:28 AM
Yeah I don't think it would be free.
I re-watched the E3 announcement for it on Demand and he did say "PS3 ONLY", however, it is being released for the PC, I believe that has been confirmed.
If it is free, that would truly be a wonderful thing.
The only reason I quit XI was because of money. Sure it's fun, but it never ends o_o
I like to play a game that I know will end, however, if it's free, I'll play it as much as I can.
If it does cost, I wonder how much more than XI it would be... or will XI get a discounted price?
I'd actually like to be on XI the day XIV is released just to see how many people are online that day XD That would be funny to see.
Honestly..... i want Squenix to just make a Final Fantasy ONLINE and STOP giving the online ones numbers...... seriously it just irks me beyond all reason. when i first heard "and also Final Fantasy XIV" i thought either they renamed Versus or decided to make yet ANOTHER FF game for after Versus.... but alas, i was sorely sorely disappointed by them saying it was online...... f*cking Squenix.... almost ruined that part of E3 for me. Luckily, we now know when FF XIII is coming out, mostly.
Also.... why is there no news about Versus? I expected them to reveal SOMETHING more about it at E3..... even just a little more. I want to know when they're going to decide we're worthy enough to deserve it here in the States..... *not bitter at all*
FinFanI2XII
07-22-2009, 01:35 PM
Honestly, I felt the same way about XI. I mean, it wouldn't have that big a deal to me if I didn't have to pay so much money for it, I could be the proud owner of a brand new computer with the money I spent on that game...
But we are in the age of the online game.
The games really are awesome ideas, especially with the Tetra Master, brilliant!
But online gaming is the 'big thing' these days, and I think anyone and everyone is going to milk it as best as they can.
I mean... they made a Matrix Online game for crying out loud X_x
As amazing as I'm sure XIV will be, I agree it should be off the roman numeral game franchise.
Ironfungus
07-25-2009, 01:01 PM
Oh! Forgot to say that this game will be PS3 exclusive!
Take note that whenever they say "This game will be made exclusive to the PS3." They really mean "We haven't made it for the PC or Xbox 360 yet."
doomjockey
08-07-2009, 10:52 AM
Official site's been updated with a lot of new stuff about the lore and gameplay.
http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/
Impressions...
Races are exactly the same as in FFXI with entirely superficial changes. Elvaan are now the Elezen, Humes are now Hyur, etc. and it seems again neither Galka or Mithra have playable members of the opposite sex. I'm not too thrilled about that.
Equipping certain weapons changes how you look and your available skill set. It's not like FFXI's job system. And it's not limited to adventuring jobs, also crafting and "gathering" activities like fishing. Sounds kind of cool (reminds me of a SaGa game) like you'll be able to change proficiencies on the fly as the situation requires.
Teleporting evidently plays a big part, which I think is great. It took forever to get anywhere in FFXI even if you could teleport.
Sounds ok so far. Hope there's a beta though.
execrable gumwrapper
08-10-2009, 08:09 PM
I'd get this MMO.
For the meanwhile, Mabinogi will have to suffice.
ABeatingBlackWing
08-14-2009, 07:00 PM
I stopped playing FFXI quite a while back. I think I may have to get into this one now.
There was an article on IGN that said this game would be more solo inclined and tailored for both players who like to solo & group party, once you got to the mid 50's on FFXI that seek flag could be up a long time depending on your job... And I just didn't have the time to sit there in Jeuno for 14 hours straight hoping to get a party that was good enough to do chains and keep going with xp.
What is the combat system like?
The development team won't say, but it did confirm to us that... Additionally, the heavy team-play aspect of FF11 has been deemphasized, and now exploration and battle is said to be more balanced between solo and team play.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/991/991483p1.html
Hope this is a valid statement, cause solo factor would help the numbers in my opinion.
Well as for FFXI.
All classes can solo, the rate at which they gain exp varies dramatically depending on the job though. Bard for example is really weak and takes forever to kill shit compared to Blue Mage which destroys crap. That said, most classes complement each other fairly well so as long as you have at least one friend the hit on exp for duoing is not bad at all and mobs will die that much faster. They upped the exp gain from Easy Prey through to Even Match mobs recently and with the advent of Fields of Valor you can now kill a quota of mobs and receive an exp bonus and points which can be used to purchase buffs such as regen, refresh, reraise, food, etc which help you solo even more efficiently. On top of that you have your Fellow which levels with you and can be set as tank, healer, or DD job. Parties are also way easier to find now with the advent of Level Sync'ing and if you're happy to gimp your weapon skills, and level them at a later time, then you can rake in sick exp at 35-39 in East Ronfaure (S) killing Colibris.
Also, FFXIV will cater to a whole new target audience, since it wont be as 'hardcore'.
ABeatingBlackWing
08-14-2009, 07:38 PM
Well as for FFXI.
All classes can solo, the rate at which they gain exp varies dramatically depending on the job though. Bard for example is really weak and takes forever to kill shit compared to Blue Mage which destroys crap. That said, most classes complement each other fairly well so as long as you have at least one friend the hit on exp for duoing is not bad at all and mobs will die that much faster. They upped the exp gain from Easy Prey through to Even Match mobs recently and with the advent of Fields of Valor you can now kill a quota of mobs and receive an exp bonus and points which can be used to purchase buffs such as regen, refresh, reraise, food, etc which help you solo even more efficiently. On top of that you have your Fellow which levels with you and can be set as tank, healer, or DD job. Parties are also way easier to find now with the advent of Level Sync'ing and if you're happy to gimp your weapon skills, and level them at a later time, then you can rake in sick exp at 35-39 in East Ronfaure (S) killing Colibris.
Also, FFXIV will cater to a whole new target audience, since it wont be as 'hardcore'.
I haven't played XI since fall of 2005, and that's what has happen to the game? lmfao, Now I want to get back! Don't get me wrong there were times I liked the 'hardcore' factor, but wow, they really overhauled it. I was still under the impression only beast could solo. I liked what they did with jobs, can't wait to see the new DRK & DRG in FFXIV (saying they're in it), they just need to leave things alone with this new game and not nerf everything to hell that was good like they did with XI.
Enkidoh
08-14-2009, 08:21 PM
FFXI has undergone massive changes over the last two to three years, mainly with the introduction of new battle systems which allow a more casual, solo-friendly style of play.
The ball was set rolling with the addition of the Experience Rings (Empress Band, Chariot Band and Emperor Band) that have a special effect that grants a bonus amount of experience on top of regular EXP gained, for a certain period.
Then there was the exp bonus effect granted with Sanction in the Aht Urhgan areas (as part of the third expansion Treasures of Aht Urhgan), the ability to call a 'fellow' (basically an NPC fighter who fights alongside you, like a pet), the addition of new Jobs that allow soloing easier in itself (namely Dancer), an increase in exp gained from monsters that check as 'easy prey' and 'decent challenge', and other things.
However, it was with the introduction of the Allied Campaign system as part of the fourth expansion Wings of the Goddess along with the recent 'Fields of Valour' system that finally made it truly possible to effectively solo your character from level 1 all the way to 75. However, that being said, exp parties are still the fastest and most effective way of levelling. It's just players finally have a viable alternaltive.
No doubt this was all introduced merely to stem the bleeding of players leaving FFXI for World of Warcraft, but it's still very much appreciated. Not to mention it would have all been valuable experience for Square Enix when they first started designing FFXIV.
Well, going back to Final Fantasy XIV. I will be at Gamescom next week (Cologne, Germany) and I'll be reporting live to my fansite, FFXIVCore.com.
So if anyone is interested, feel free to register over at
http://www.ffxivcore.com :)
Zeigus
08-18-2009, 02:43 AM
Only a couple of days until GamesCon and some huge announcements / information about FFXIV! I can't wait.
Syno23
08-18-2009, 09:03 PM
I'm hoping GamesCon will be a good one. Looking forward to all the information on
http://www.ffxivcore.com/ good information there.
doomjockey
08-19-2009, 12:50 AM
Yes,
http://www.ffxivcore.com/ will certainly be the place to read the latest news on FFIVX at Gamescon. With a dedicated community of fans and professionals, you can expect a confluence of total awesomeness.
http://www.ffxivcore.com/: where dreams come true.
Goren
08-19-2009, 01:01 AM
....
Goren
08-19-2009, 08:28 PM
Don't we have a policy against excessive advertisement?
doomjockey
08-19-2009, 10:42 PM
You should chill out...with a cool delicious McFlurry, only available at McDonald's restaurants.
Leontendo
08-21-2009, 12:14 AM
So, this is how I take it. FFXIV will be released on PS3 and PC at launch, then it could move onto other consoles. TBH, that's what they're doing with FFXIII. It's already out on PS3 in Japan, but will be released on 360 later.
I might just get this game, mostly depending on price.
doomjockey
08-21-2009, 12:37 AM
^^^I saw an article today saying pretty much exactly that. The devs say they want to have it to 360, but XBL was giving them problems so they couldn't launch simultaneously. Tretton just spun it with clever wording to make it sound exclusive at E3. It's more than likely coming to 360 after it launches on PS3/PC.
Edit: article (
http://www.vg247.com/2009/08/20/ffxiv-discussions-with-microsoft-holding-up-360-version/)
Oh, and luckily it's not a Japan first thing. Worldwide release this time, which is great for an MMO because it sucked to start FFXI alongside max level Japanese players.
Goren
08-23-2009, 03:02 AM
Hmm...
Moooga
08-23-2009, 03:23 AM
The article is very nice.
I like how they talk about the guildleaves! XD It's very cool and diferent in many MMO.
doomjockey
08-23-2009, 04:39 AM
That's cool. I don't care for their total lack of PvP, but if it makes the PvE better to start off, sure.
Also, monthly subs... Not sure how well that will work out for them on consoles. I know a lot of people say they want MMOs on consoles, but I can't quite believe they know what playing an MMO means compared to the itinerary of your average PS3/360 gamer.
Anyway, it'd be great to get some discussion, Zyuu, instead of just a link back to your forum.
Edit: I'm not sure I entirely grasp the Guildleves thing yet.
Yeah, you're right. We're simply very excited about the news. It's not like linking on these forums will give us the majority of the traffic, instead we rather share it, since it's a fairly friendly forum.
Thoughts on the info where there won't be a job system, but instead a class one?
Enkidoh
08-26-2009, 12:21 PM
Also, monthly subs... Not sure how well that will work out for them on consoles. I know a lot of people say they want MMOs on consoles, but I can't quite believe they know what playing an MMO means compared to the itinerary of your average PS3/360 gamer.
Well, considering FFXI players on PS2 and 360 haven't had too much trouble adjusting to monthly subscriptions, (not to mention all the 360 owners begging Blizzard to port WoW to 360 too), I'd say console owners are fairly competent to handle another subscription-based MMO. ;)
doomjockey
08-27-2009, 12:25 AM
I'm not saying they don't exist (I played the game for years), but FFXI players are a rare breed. Too rare, I think, for a game with Final Fantasy in the name. It's not and imo, never has been as popular as it should be. There are a lot mitigating circumstances surrounding that though, so I wouldn't even call it a definitive opinion.
I'm kind of looking towards Champions Online to see how well a p2p MMO is received by the console-only crowd. CO will have more advantages than FFXI's console launch: consoles today are built a lot more like PCs so there are largely no optional add-ons to buy just to get the game working.
Well as for FFXI.
All classes can solo, the rate at which they gain exp varies dramatically depending on the job though. Bard for example is really weak and takes forever to kill shit compared to Blue Mage which destroys crap. That said, most classes complement each other fairly well so as long as you have at least one friend the hit on exp for duoing is not bad at all and mobs will die that much faster. They upped the exp gain from Easy Prey through to Even Match mobs recently and with the advent of Fields of Valor you can now kill a quota of mobs and receive an exp bonus and points which can be used to purchase buffs such as regen, refresh, reraise, food, etc which help you solo even more efficiently. On top of that you have your Fellow which levels with you and can be set as tank, healer, or DD job. Parties are also way easier to find now with the advent of Level Sync'ing and if you're happy to gimp your weapon skills, and level them at a later time, then you can rake in sick exp at 35-39 in East Ronfaure (S) killing Colibris.
Also, FFXIV will cater to a whole new target audience, since it wont be as 'hardcore'.
I have never played a MMO before, but based on the information you posted and the simple fact that I am a noob, it sounds exciting that I will be playing with other people online. Thanks Zyuu for sharing.
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