I find it hard to put the controller down most of the time. It's just such a big game with so many things to do that it's different all the time. There's loads more choice than in oblivion and although the map is far smaller than cyrodiil it feels much bigger.

I think part of it has to do with the lack of mountain borders. Plus, when you're in the Capital Wasteland, there's really not that much out there, so you can see almost everything, unlike Oblivion where you're either in a forest or in a swamp. Not to mention the fact that you have to discover all of the locations before you can fast travel to them.

I couldn't stand Oblivion, but I got FO3 thursday night and have played like 14 hours since then.

I'm already planning on my second playthrough and I just got to the GNR building for the first time. O:

It is all I think about when I am not playing it.

So, no matter how physically impossible it is, the Fatman mini-nuke launcher is the most amazing weapon I've ever seen.

I find it kind of annoying that i'm already level 11 out of 20 and I am just heading to the Science Museum for 3dawg and have barely explored an eigth of the world. D;

I haven't gotten a chance to use the Fatman yet but I've got one waiting in my house for when I need it. I feel like I stockpile wayyyy too much stuff wayyy too easily though, maybe I shouldn't have taken the Scrounger perk. I'm finding Normal also ridiculously easy most of the time so I'm gonna bump up the difficulty next time I play.

It's so good all in all, though.

i consider elder 3 morrowind an uber awesome game, and you say fallout 3 is better than any elder scrolls? I NEED THIS GAME THEN!

Having good speech is awesome

I talked my way out of doing the radio signal mission for three dog and he told me where my dad was.

Too many good games coming out all at once ;_;

I finished Dead Space in four days, because I knew that this had the potential to be a life drainer.

Sure enough, i've spent my entire weekend playing it...and i've only been doing side quests. God damn you Bethesda.

This might actually stop me from getting Wrath of the Lich King...

Too many good games coming out all at once ;_;



I know. COD5, Motorstorm 2, Little Big Planet and Resistance 2 all look good but there's no way I can get them all :(

I'm barely out of the Vault and am enjoying it FAR more than Oblivion. I think the next TES could take a few tips from F3. It's far better than I figured it would be. And I haven't even used a gun yet.

Having good speech is awesome

I talked my way out of doing the radio signal mission for three dog and he told me where my dad was.

Man I had a 50% chance to do that. Normally if a speech option comes up I exit the conversation, put on a +10 speech armor I have, and quicksave and try until I succeed but I didn't care enough that time. Oh well, I'm enjoying exploring the metro system on my way and getting all these locations explored for quick travel later.

Man, I didn't like the ending I got. All that happened was I sacrificed myself for the purifier and then the narrator talked about how noble I was and how I was just like my dad. I wanted something more epic :( Oh well, I might get something better on my next playthrough

i got it too. highly addicting. i'm around level 4, but I gotta ask you guys: Should I blow up Megaton after I finish all the quests there?

i got it too. highly addicting. i'm around level 4, but I gotta ask you guys: Should I blow up Megaton after I finish all the quests there?

I don't think it's worth it. The people of Megaton constantly bring me stimpacks or nuka colas whenever I'm there, and there are other rewards that are very worthwhile especially if you disarm the bomb early. However, if you hate Moira (especially after doing ALL of her quest) and are shooting for an evil character and want to wait to have your own room with a locker and bed (you get one either way, albeit in different places) until after you do all the quests there, then go for it.

thanks. will consider it.

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I find it kind of annoying that i'm already level 11 out of 20 and I am just heading to the Science Museum for 3dawg and have barely explored an eigth of the world. D;

I haven't gotten a chance to use the Fatman yet but I've got one waiting in my house for when I need it. I feel like I stockpile wayyyy too much stuff wayyy too easily though, maybe I shouldn't have taken the Scrounger perk. I'm finding Normal also ridiculously easy most of the time so I'm gonna bump up the difficulty next time I play.

It's so good all in all, though.

I agree the game is pretty easy. Especially compared to the first two games, where you could get fucked over hard even after level 20, wearing the best armor in the game, by a critical hit.

My character is non combat focused and I have managed to fight my way through several situations simply by taking cover jumping out and using VATS, and repeating. Basically all you need to win in combat is good small guns skill and plenty of ammo.

For me, the ammo is the most difficult thing about the game, in fact. In the first two games I almost never ran out of ammo, and I would always just use whatever was the best gun I'd found so far and sell off all my other guns and the ammo for them. In this game I started playing that way but quickly discovered that I need to keep one of every gun I find with me and all the ammo for them. Ammo is the thing I am most eager to find when opening random boxes and desks. I think this is one thing they really really got right about this game--everything feels like more of a commodity.

Another thing I like that they changed: getting a perk every level. This is so completely awesome, why the hell did it take until the third game in the series for someone to think of this?! Taking perks was always one of the most fun things about Fallout so why not just let me do it more often? Also, every time I play Fallout 1 and 2, I always feel like I have to take all three levels of Educated as soon as they come up, so I'm glad there's just one flat level of it here and that's it.

I'm at about the same place you are Wattson, but am not such a high level. I'm sure it's going to take a ridiculously long time to level up as you get farther though so it should balance itself out. You must have gone all out on the quests beforehand. I completed a few of them but am saving some for later. I tend to take the "role playing" as seriously as I'm able when I'm playing a Fallout game, so I try to prioritize the way I think I really would. I did the quest where I found the kid's dad and stuff, because a kid ran out at me and needed help right away, but I didn't go finish off the ants yet because I was too fixated on finding dad and chewing him the fuck out for ruining my life.

I am about to go play some more. I am going to be a fucking WRECK for work in the morning, and I don't give a shit.

Oh also: No fatman for my character, I'm not even strong enough to wield the thing. I am a brainy manipulative girl who compulsively hacks every computer she sees, steals shit, and doesn't like anybody, but still has a strong moral compass. This is pretty much the character I always make during my first playthrough of any RPG. She'll go out of her way to help some kid find his dad, but she also killed the overseer and then asked his daughter to come with her outside the vault like it was nothing.

That douche totally had it coming. Although I actually hated him less than the overseer from Fallout 1.

I killed the overseer and wanted to have hot uncanny valley lesbian sex with Amata but she refused to talk to me so I quickloaded and didn't kill him and it wasn't much better. :/ I really hate that the game has a quicksave feature. I feel like it'd be a lot more like the kind of difficulty I like. Still, since it's there, I use it.

Now that I've switched to playing on hard I'm actually finding my stockpile of ammo depleting alarmingly. I got a sweeeeeeet gun from the Museum of History but it's starting to get ill repaired (so I'm racing to raise my Repair skill to 100 so I can keep things in max condition for max damage), but it uses .44 ammo and that stuff is rare. I'm down to only like 40-50 left... I had 150 or so before. My assault rifle ammo is down from ~1200+ to 600 now also. Makes me feel uneasy. But thanks to Scrounger I am not too worried.

I think I'm level 14 now and still haven't finished doing the errand for Three Dog, but I had a blast helping some mercenaries escape from a hotel so it's all good. At the start I had gone west to deliver Lucy West's message and had done some work for Moira and I ended up helping a town rescue some folk and work out a deal between another town and a group of... interesting... raiders, as well as explore a pretty trippy dungeony area and I found myself a Dog companion who I sadly lost to the fire ants. :'( Being intentionally vague to avoid spoilers though. Oh yeah, after the fire ants I went to a weird sewer grate that led me to a Comic Book factory that was pretty neat but didn't have much in it, and I spent a long time messing around in the subway popping up and around DC.

I want to start hunting down Bobbleheads, since I've got maybe 5 total so far? Also I want to get more unique weapons and stuff since they are pretty neat.

My character's SPECIAL starting out was 4/4/5/5/5/7/10, and I like having all that luck, but I wish I had had more strength. I also wish I knew Repair, Lockpicking, and Science would be so crucial throughout the game at the start. I think my tagged skills were Sneak, Small Guns, and Energy Weapons. D: Playing mainly just how I would go through these situations, which is completley "good" most of the time.

Next playthrough I'm going to be a more neautral possibly evil character who focuses on Unarmed combat. Should be fun.

Dude I was thinking my next character was just going to be an outright ninja. Basically all agility and perception, with sneak/lockpick/unarmed.

The quest for 3dog takes FOREVER. I've basically done the same thing, just fuck around in the tunnels and pop up in random spots. I've popped off a few super mutants for XP but I can't really engage them much because I have to rely on criticals, so it's been rough going trying to find a way to that damn museum. I'm loving every second of it. I got the ranger transmission but haven't found either museum yet.

I ended up having to go back to Megaton for supplies, so while I was at it I completed a couple extra quests for xp too. Was debating finding that girl's brother, but he's gonna have to wait until after I get the stupid dish.

...and yes, I have been playing all night. O_o

Taking all that luck is an interesting strategy. You get tons of criticals that way, right? Given how powerful they are in this game that might actually just be the best combat strategy. 10 luck with a high small guns skill could destroy practically anything. :O I usually go with 4 luck because I can never get enough points for the skills I want the most.

I get criticals really frequently. Plus I have the the Finesse perk (I think that's what it's called?) which is equivalent to 5 more Luck in critical chance I'm pretty sure. Then I have the Mysterious Stranger perk which gives a chance for VATS to autokill basically, and I'm raising my perception or something to get a perk that makes criticals do 50% more damage. Plus I think I heard there's a quest that gives 3% more critical chance so I'm keeping an eye out for that. I usually try to start every fight from sneak as well for the auto-crit.
I think it'll be hard for me to play a character without a tonnnn of criticals after this one. I definitley need more small guns skill (only around 50 now I think, been too busy with Lockpicking and Repair) but with my Chinese Assault Rifle doing ~40 damage, Combat Shotgun I think 45, and a few other good guns I seem to tear through super mutants when my stuff is fully repaired.

I definitley recommend doing the Ranger quest ASAP, the reward for it is awesome. I took a detour last night to check out a town that's directly south of Vault 101 (quite a bit ways south). It's so far probably my favorite little place in the game. It's a very short sidequest and I recommend checking it out, although I got some bad karma for doing what I thought was the right thing.

I'm actually working on the ranger quest now... I've made it to the Washington Monument and Museum of Technology but I'm putting them off just a wee bit. I want to finish it but my eyes are drooping uncontrollably and I'm going to fall asleep in the middle of playing.

I guess if you go 3 days getting little to no sleep because you're staying up playing Fallout 3 it starts to get to you.

Goodnight, wasteland... I'll be back soon.

I heard the game was really glitchy..any problems for guys?

I heard the game was really glitchy..any problems for guys?

only for women, thank god.

Well, I started playing Fallout 3 yesterday.

I just left Vault 101 and did some exploring. However, I had to stop playing. Not because the game is bad, but quite the opposite. The moment I saw the wasteland world, I knew this is going to be a deep immersive experience, I have to dedicate a good deal of time to.

I'm still replaying RE4, not to mention I'm getting Dead Space soon. So, I'm putting off on Fallout 3, until I finish Dead Space first at least.

But yes, it's a good game that makes feel like you're really in a post-apocalyptic world. The game is a mix between Oblivion and Bioshock. If you liked either one of those games, then I recommend playing it.

Don't bother getting Dead Space. Just play Fallout 3.

I heard the game was really glitchy..any problems for guys?

I bought my copy for PC and have had to put my game on hold for a bit thanks to some buggy times in the wasteland. I will show you fear in a handful of dust if you don't patch my game Bethesda. *shakes fist*

But no, really, it's awesome and I can't wait to get back into it.

Edit: Actually, I just read something that said they'd be releasing a patch this week so yay.

ok I can't figure out what the hell I'm supposed to do to find this ranger guy? Maybe I missed the boat and the quest is timed or something because as near as I can tell I've explored every inch of the museum of history and nada. =(

But anyway I did get that dish to threedog and I acted like a right bitch to him afterwards as well because WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU ANYWAY, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST TELL ME WHERE DAD IS IN THE FIRST PLACE. GOSH.

Gonna get a few other odds and ends sorted out before heading to rivet city, I imagine that will be quite a treck.

ok I can't figure out what the hell I'm supposed to do to find this ranger guy? Maybe I missed the boat and the quest is timed or something because as near as I can tell I've explored every inch of the museum of history and nada. =(

To find Reilly?

Assuming you've gotten the emergency broadcast signal, she's in the Undercity (which is in the Museum of History, about 2 seconds away from the Washington Monument).

Reilly's exact location is:
in the doctor's office on a bed

Also, a very minor spoiler about Reilly:
She's female :3

Did you find Lincoln's Repeater while you were in the Museum's lower floors, by the way? If you didn't I highly recommend going back for it.

Just got my copy for PS3! :D

Will most more on this laterrr

Got mine running far stabler than previously. Genius at work. :cool:

Put a few hours in tonight... Great stuff. My character exudes strength and charisma and I took a few perks to affect conversational skills. The funniest of which is "Child At Heart" though I haven't found many kids besides Maggie and Paul in Megaton. She gave up the goods on her dad's stash, but I'd feel too sleazy actually stealing from them. Perhaps next game. :naughty:

I've only just started the main leg of the quest after hitting level 10 just meandering around the wastes. So far I'm asked to find Galaxy radio, but I'm having a bit more fun knocking out the random sidequests...


"Blood Ties"
God, what a long, odd quest. It took me FOREVER to find their base as Evan only says it's somewhere east or northeast. Way to go, old man. And some kind of vampire cult? How randomly weird. Proud to say I didn't kill a single person which is something since all the traps set up by the Family led me to believe hostilities would ensue on first sight. But doing it without unnecessary kills gave me that warm fuzzy feeling... And I received a schematic as well. Sweet.

I also really appreciate the perks of completing some quests.

Moira's research quests! Only did two but they are so worth it. Though I wonder just how useful regeneration can be when I have to be so highly irradiated to access it.

Regardless, rewards are so much better when they can't be measured in bottlecaps.

Combat shotgun is my friend against super mutants.

Unless of course they are Behemoths. Shit took me by surprise.

That android side-quest is very interesting. I want to find him, but I feel like I'll get bad karma for it.

Later in the game ammo is not a problem. Especially if you take a tour of the west side of the wasteland.

im at level 16...

i also ran out of ammo a lot of times, is getting easier to get laser and plasma ammo

i love this game


there is just a lack of quests.... or maybe is because most of them have a lot of ways to end

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I just confused the big computer and blowed up himself lol


and now i got my own mutant and my dog to travel with me

Combat shotgun is my friend against super mutants.

Unless of course they are Behemoths. Shit took me by surprise.

That android side-quest is very interesting. I want to find him, but it I feel like I'll get bad karma for it.

Later in the game ammo is not a problem. Especially if you take a tour of the west side of the wasteland.


i ended that quest without finding him

i also wanted to see him.... maybe if i pay a visit to the institute where that old man is hiding

holy crap Wattson, I am totally pissed at myself for not even thinking of that. X_X

I did get the item you refer to though, and yes, it is quite spectacular. I love how it starts off in perfect condition. I've only used it a couple of times because I'm trying to keep it in good shape for the few times I really need the extra firepower.


Did anybody find

vault 106 yet? That shit is FUCKED UP. I've explored the whole thing and while I think I can basically tell what happened there, I'm not sure if there is anything to do other than discover that, get really wierded out, and leave. Well, and get a good set of recon armor. It might have to do with a quest I haven't received yet, I suppose.

Did anybody find

vault 106 yet? That shit is FUCKED UP. I've explored the whole thing and while I think I can basically tell what happened there, I'm not sure if there is anything to do other than discover that, get really wierded out, and leave. Well, and get a good set of recon armor. It might have to do with a quest I haven't received yet, I suppose.

My friend warned me about that place, but I totally forgot to ask. Where the heck is it, sir?

@Wattson: I almost forgot about that place. I was going to go in there, but I had enough of underground travel/ghoulies by that point, lol. Guess I'll have to go back there.

Currently running with two characters.

One whom makes decisions mainly on the good side.

Another who makes the most evil/profitable decisions.

Needless to say, the evil one is easier and more fun. Being good really kills your supplies and shit.

Did anybody find

vault 106 yet? That shit is FUCKED UP. I've explored the whole thing and while I think I can basically tell what happened there, I'm not sure if there is anything to do other than discover that, get really wierded out, and leave. Well, and get a good set of recon armor. It might have to do with a quest I haven't received yet, I suppose.

Yeah man, in that place there's...

A bobblehead for medicine (I think it's medicine...). Possibly a skill book or two as well? Could be wrong on that, but I don't remember where I find those. Also there were a couple safes or things that required more lockpicking skill than I had when I first went through there but I have no idea if they had anything good.

There's lots of places around that reward you with just a skill book or two for exploring the whole thing, and sometimes bobbleheads and unique items or just good items. A few I've been pretty dissapointed by, the most notable being Hubris Comics an absolutley huge place that only had like one skill book in it, although it did have a cool minigame, but most places are at the very least interesting.

Nice, fruitful night. Finally met with DJ Cerebus. What a great fight as a prelude to it.

I didn't find the Fatman until after the freaking fight. Go me. :/
But exhilarating all the same. Took him down with a spare missile launcher after god knows how many shots from the combat shotgun.

Of course, after he tasked me with visiting the museum, I promptly decided to head to Grayditch as I'd had an outstanding quest there. It was so difficult at earlier levels I had to let it marinate a bit before I finally came back.

Fire ants are fucking tough. The soldier ants especially... I rarely got off a good crit head shot, even sneaking. Otherwise it's just a test of wasted ammo.

Do these ants have any weakness at all?

Anyway, the last leg of the quest has me hiking up to Rivet City. The journey was dangerous, but fun... Took me near 40 minutes fights and all with raiders and assorted super mutants. There's something uniquely satisfying about crossing a battleground to the last bastion of civilization...even if it's not really the 'last'. The city itself though is kind of annoying. It's based in a ship so all the areas are sectioned off, unlike Megaton. Oh well, it beats the wastes for now.

Fuckin hell, I'm doing the Museum fetch quest for Three Dog. I'm on the lest leg where I need to get to the Washington Monument but there's a shit ton of Super Mutants in the way. Fuckall...
I've also put my good character on hold. Being evil is just more fun and profitable. Plus, it was a blast, no pun intended, destroying Megaton. Those people are fucking annoying, but what the shit? The stupid survival guide bitch survived! ;-; I should kill her. Also, I led ghouls into Tenpenny tower. Haha! I have loyalty to no one!

Do these ants have any weakness at all?

Well...

The kid mentions that his father says "shoot for the antennae" which stuns the ants and can be useful. I just used my combat shotgun in good repair to the head. They were tough, but not too bad except for the fact that they killed my dog.


Also, I started my fist user after watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaMT9woen2k , but haven't gotten very far yet. Not sure if I'm going to continue or switch back to my first one...

I didn't have too much trouble with the fire ants. Just be careful approaching them. When you're in the danger zone, hit the VATS button every few seconds so that if there is one in the distance you'll be aware of it as soon as possible. Shoot them from a distance and just keep backing off so that you are out of the range of their fire. They're too slow to really chase you.

You can go through quite a bit of ammo this way but if you keep your weapons in good repair and aim for the head, you should be ok. If you can't keep your weapons in good repair you're well and truly fucked, but really, in this game, repair is a VERY important skill and if you intend to be using guns at all you should be buffing it up. Overall I'd say that repair and small guns are by far the two most important skills in this game. If you can't keep your weapons in good condition, come back to the quest later because you need to be able to.

Grenades are useful on the ants. :3

I just used my trusty 10mm hand gun and hunting rifle. At that time, I didn't have much to work with. So I actually used the terrain to my advantage...like the roofs and stuff.

I forgot if I had a shotgun at that time...but if I did...I probably didn't have a lot of ammo for it anyway.

That was a tough mission.

fire ants wre a pain for me...also sometimes some robot enemies

fire ants mainly because i did that quest when i barely had ammo and caps...

Well...

The kid mentions that his father says "shoot for the antennae" which stuns the ants and can be useful. I just used my combat shotgun in good repair to the head. They were tough, but not too bad except for the fact that they killed my dog.


Ahhh, that makes sense as to why explosives stunned them. Didn't know that bit. Will have to try it on my evil game. I ended up using up all my mines since the ants approach you so slowly. Slow process, unfortunately.

TK, that's the way I'd done it and thought I was doing it wrong because of the bullet cost. I've also been using the VATS hint you gave which really helps, especially in the wasteland expanse. Sneaking previously served in that regard even though I'm no good at it, just because it tells you when you've aggroed something nasty. While my repair is decent, (a lesson learned from carrying tons of broken equipment ala Oblivion) I've been wondering (perhaps inanely) which skill affects the hunting rifle? It's my most used weapon.

Anyway, I'm far off the beaten trail again in some settlement called Girdershade, home of the Nuka Cola Fan Club, to continue a 'quest' from Marigold Station.

It was while exploring Marigold during the fire ant fiasco. Naughty Nightwear anyone? Grady left a message indicating I should head to Girdershade, but I haven't found anything to continue this so far unofficial quest.

Anyway, the club president sent me on a quest to hunt for Nuka Quantum along with a few interesting historic facts about the product.

Has anyone found the Nuka Cola factory yet?

EDIT: Nevermind... found it. Didn't see it on my map there.

Hunting rifle is Small Guns. Small guns is everything that you get early in the game, and a lot more. The big guns skill really only refers to anything that really is BIG. It's stuff like the minigun, rocket launcher, fat man, and flamer. Pistols, shotguns, rifles, and assault rifles are all small guns.

I've actually abandoned the hunting rifle by now because shotgun and assault rifle ammo has become plentiful. It just doesn't cut it anymore. Now I just pull them off super mutants, repair them to make a really nice one and sell it.

Man.,... I'm all about Fallout 1,2,3 i even found the T-51b Power Armor in the 3 if you want to know where it is,just ask :) oh and also.... here's a pick of me doing the crazy guy in DC.

So, no matter how physically impossible it is, the Fatman mini-nuke launcher is the most amazing weapon I've ever seen.

You haven't seen the Experimental MRIV, its the Fat Man Unique Weapon, it fire 8 Mini Nukes in same time :P found it, but forgot where.

Man...Chuck Norris would be perfect for this game. I wish someone made him.
Oh wait...someone did. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf8Ae-kafF0)

Don't bother getting Dead Space. Just play Fallout 3.

Screw that noise, Dead Space is a sick game and worth a play through for sure.

Fallout 3, great game as well, Gears of War 2 came out though and I have to get back to Fallout once Ive had my fill of Gears

Heh my bro's wasting is time with dead Space while me i stick to fallout.

Dead Space is a sick game and worth a play through for sure.

Dead Space is a good game, which has come out in a season surrounded by blockbusters.

It's definitely worth playing, but do yourself a favour and wait until later when there aren't a million AAA titles out.

I know I hate open world games, but this has just got me fascinated. We'll see what happens :)

I want Dead Space, too :o

I know its an Open World and all but there's lot of amazing place to discover and each of them have its story, you can find out by Holotape, Terminals and notes.

Exemple

Dunwixh Building: Horror
Vault 106: Suspense (With a bit of Horror)
Washington: Action
Washington Metro: Horror

I encourage you to try the game.

And here's a fine pic of me in a T-51b Power armor and a Minigun, blasting ghouls in a Metro ^^

I've heard talk of the PS3 version being super buggy. I've also heard that all versions are buggy.

Confirm/Deny/Tell me I didn't read this thread or TK's original thread carefully enough.

Dunwich, for me, was no more than a glorified easter egg.

Did I miss something there? Yeah it was horror story, homage to Lovecraft, but what the hell? All I got for it was this lousy bobblehead. When I finally made it to Jaime and the shrine, I thought maybe I'd be rewarded with a unique item at least. I know they couldn't jump the shark with a Necronomicon, but geez, give me something. I was a bit disappointed.


I've heard talk of the PS3 version being super buggy. I've also heard that all versions are buggy.

Confirm/Deny/Tell me I didn't read this thread or TK's original thread carefully enough.

For my two cents, it's a buggy game across the board. I've seen it screw up frame rate and/or freeze on console versions first hand. Not enough to be gamebreaking, but an occasional annoyance. The PC version, which I own, is worse I think. Although I've only come across one infamous glitch that totally breaks a sidequest. Game definitely needs a patch and the good people at Bethesda are working on one.

they already released a patch, but thei'l need more since anytime i destroy Megaton and enter in any other building or stuff, the game crash.

Is that patch available as dlc?

Dead Space is awesome. If you like Resident Evil 4 or the Silent Hill Series, you're a fool if you don't play it.

Oh, and Fallout 3 rocks too :)

they already released a patch, but thei'l need more since anytime i destroy Megaton and enter in any other building or stuff, the game crash.

The current patch is PC only and mostly useless, which is why I didn't mention. It fixes very few features...


* Fixed occasional crashes when exiting the game or using Alt F4 to exit.
* Fixed crashes when using Alt-Tab while binks or credits were playing.
* The game now restarts properly after title updates finish installing.



So, no Neg, no fixes have graced either 360/PS3 as far as I know. The patch on which Bethesda are currently working will actually address gameplay issues and on all consoles.

I've heard talk of the PS3 version being super buggy. I've also heard that all versions are buggy.

Confirm/Deny/Tell me I didn't read this thread or TK's original thread carefully enough.

My original thread wouldn't have helped with this, it was all about hardware.

The game is horribly, horribly buggy on the PC. I have had no real problems with the Xbox 360 version though, which is what I've been playing. I've had it freeze once after a very very extended playing session, and it didn't really matter because the game autosaves very frequently. I can't really imagine why the PS3 version would be any different, but if you've heard about it from PS3 owners I'd get more info from them.

This is why PC gaming is going the way of the dinosaur.

The only problem I've had with the PS3 is loading the V.A.T.S. screen when I switch targets fast. Minor annoyance.

The game is horribly, horribly buggy on the PC. I have had no real problems with the Xbox 360 version though, which is what I've been playing. I've had it freeze once after a very very extended playing session, and it didn't really matter because the game autosaves very frequently. I can't really imagine why the PS3 version would be any different, but if you've heard about it from PS3 owners I'd get more info from them.

This is why PC gaming is going the way of the dinosaur.

O_o

You've had more problems with the 360 version than I have on the PC, apparently. Game's run flawlessly so far, plus I get access to mods and console commands...

The reason PC gaming is dieing is piracy, not bugs.

The reason PC gaming is dieing is piracy

This whole PC games are dying stuff, is not different than saying, Y2K is coming, or the African Killer Bees will invade and kill everybody.

Myth = Something that is accepted as true, but isn't.

PC gaming is far from dead. Yes it suffers from Piracy, but so do a lot of other mediums, and there still racking in the cash. PC Games are no different.

This whole PC games are dying stuff, is not different than saying, Y2K is coming, or the African Killer Bees will invade and kill everybody.

Myth = Something that is accepted as true, but isn't.

PC gaming is far from dead. Yes it suffers from Piracy, but so do a lot of other mediums, and there still racking in the cash. PC Games are no different.

I don't think it's close to death at all, but I think it's easy to see the trend with developers such as Epic refusing to release PC games anymore due to the issue and the recent news that 90% of people who "have" World of Goo pirated it, plus all the DRM shit EA's been pulling, and not to mention the fact that multiplatform releases are more and more often delaying the PC version... the trend is clearly there.

As long as there are developers like Valve who respect and understand why it's such a great platform, routinely release amazing games, and use a system like Steam where it's easy to buy and you have incentive NOT to pirate, PC gaming will stay around. I will not be surprised if, in a few years, the vast majority of PC titles are mainly multiplayer, though.

Dead Space is awesome. If you like Resident Evil 4 or the Silent Hill Series, you're a fool if you don't play it.

So I've been told. Pretty easy to sell me on that specific rhetoric :D


The patch on which Bethesda are currently working will actually address gameplay issues and on all consoles.

Should be available by the time I actually get a PS3, I'd imagine ;)


I can't really imagine why the PS3 version would be any different, but if you've heard about it from PS3 owners I'd get more info from them.

I remember you saying the PS3 version was inferior for some reason you couldn't put your finger on in the original thread, or it might have been in chat. Either way, we'll see what happens when the patch is available and I have a PS3.

I don't think it's close to death at all, but I think it's easy to see the trend with developers such as Epic refusing to release PC games anymore due to the issue and the recent news that 90% of people who "have" World of Goo pirated it, plus all the DRM shit EA's been pulling, and not to mention the fact that multiplatform releases are more and more often delaying the PC version... the trend is clearly there.

For me, that's more so the greed of the big developers, especially EA. Plus PC versions of Multi-platform games have always been either released at the same time as consoles, or last to be released. That's goes way before the whole PC Piracy thing started. However, I do feel bad for the small developers who get crushed because of piracy. However, that not much different than a small record label, getting crushed under a big label. It's one of the dark sides of the business world.


As long as there are developers like Valve who respect and understand why it's such a great platform, routinely release amazing games, and use a system like Steam where it's easy to buy and you have incentive NOT to pirate, PC gaming will stay around. I will not be surprised if, in a few years, the vast majority of PC titles are mainly multiplayer, though.

I personally think in the end, Valve will be behind all the PC game releases. EA just jumped on board not too long ago.

Coming back on topic, I finally bought the game today. I didn't start playing yet, but I intent to do so once my 20 HDD has completed transferring to my new 120 HDD. (With NXE coming next Wednesday , I needed more space to use the install game fonction ^^).

So in about 30 minutes, I'll be starting my game. I don't know yet what kind of character I'll create. I hope not everyone here has completed the game, cause I'm sure I could have fun discussing it with many of you. ^^

You won't be dissapointed Hynad. You'll find it hard to put the controller down.

I remember you saying the PS3 version was inferior for some reason you couldn't put your finger on in the original thread, or it might have been in chat. Either way, we'll see what happens when the patch is available and I have a PS3.

I've HEARD that the PS3 version is inferior for one reason or another, but I don't know why that is said. I didn't get the impression it had to do with bugginess, though.


O_o

You've had more problems with the 360 version than I have on the PC, apparently. Game's run flawlessly so far, plus I get access to mods and console commands...

The reason PC gaming is dieing is piracy, not bugs.

Piracy has to do with it, but that exists on consoles too. There is less and less reason to play anything on a PC now though. I think it's a combination of a lot of factors, I didn't mean that was all there was to it. It's definitely a big issue though. Why buy a game for PC and worry about compatibility and updating your system when you could just get the console version which you know will work?

And I know a lot of people are having no problems with the PC version, but seriously, go take a look at technical problems forum on Bethesda's official site for the game. It's an endless sea of the same complaint threads over and over again.

Looks like the Lionhead forums about Fable II.... Yet for some reason, the game runs just fine on my console.

No major glitch, and certainly no game breaking ones.



As for the PS3 version of Fallout 3, there isn't any more bugs on it than the other versions. The PS3 only suffers on the graphical side of things. The draw distance isn't as far, the textures are muddier, the frame rate drops more than on the 360...

As far as it goes, most people agree to say that the definitive version is the PC one.

But like you just said TK, not everyone (like me, and you it would seem) have the budget to buy the hardware necessary to run such a game as it was intended to.

Having the PS3 AND the 360, I usually look at the reviews and version comparisons of multi-platform games and choose the best of them. In that case, the 360 won.

i got the computer version of the Game saddly, anytime i blew megaton up and i enter in any other building, the game crash... and thats pissing me off..

Bladerting, you should have a look at the bug wiki (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_bugs). Fair warning, there are spoilers aplenty.

I put the game down to finish some of my PS2 games. But if the PC version does have a lot of bugs, then maybe I should pick it up again to see if I suffer from any of them. From the little I played (Just outside of Vault 101) I haven't noticed any in-game bugs.

It's a phenomenal game, and the one issue I have encountered has been a minor drop in frame rate. Otherwise it's not given me a bit of trouble.

My housemates have this for the XBox 360 and play it incessantly. I sometimes watch them playing it, though I haven't played it myself yet. I'm playing a lot of Oblivion though, which I think is pretty good. Not really sure if a post-apocalyptic setting is for me, also FO3 seems to be quite linear from what I've seen, and I'm not particularly a fan of the game's main attacking engine which seemingly lets you damage enemies a lot without requiring a great deal of skill as far as aiming/timing is concerned.

I think if you sit down and play Fallout 3, it will be fun. It's very similar to Oblivion as far as the game engine (no surprise), but a lot of features have been simplified, many for the better. I think I actually like it more than Oblivion but I confess that could be a trick of retrospective. On linearity, you've stumped me. I'm not sure how anyone could walk away with that particular impression.

On bugs, I've just encountered another in the Republic of Dave which won't allow me to finish the darn quest there and Arefu which turns the entire settlement hostile against me. Both already documented on that bug wiki I mentioned earlier. *crosses fingers for patch soon*

also FO3 seems to be quite linear from what I've seen,

It is the exact opposite. The Fallout series is especially known for being nonlinear, and in fact was one of the first games to be nonlinear to the extent that it was. Fallout 3 has kept that element quite intact. You can literally go anywhere in the game world as soon or late as you want to.


and I'm not particularly a fan of the game's main attacking engine which seemingly lets you damage enemies a lot without requiring a great deal of skill as far as aiming/timing is concerned.

It's mixing turn-based RPG combat, which is what the past Fallout games used entirely, with first person combat. Frankly I'd rather it was just a straight up turn-based system like the older games but I think VATS is a very nice compromise. If you don't like it, it's possible to play the entire game just as though it were a first person shooter.

Wouldn't recommend this without a mouse/keyboard though.

Republic of Dave? Haha, that sounds pretty awesome. I'd like to have a state named after me like that. Republic of Ceidwad anyone? No?

Also, I guess I'll give it a go later, assuming the Xbox isn't being used by one of my other housemates. I've just finished working on an essay so I've pretty much got the whole day off, just need to hand it in.

Incidentally, I got the 'linear' impression from the fact that whenever my friends are playing it, they always seem to be doing some mission rather than just toodling around, which led me to believe it wasn't much of a 'do stuff at your lesiure kind of game'. Obviously, I'm wrong.

It's far from linear. The game basically throws you in the wasteland where you're like... "okay, I'm supposed to go to Megaton, but... Shit this is huge and I'm now lost in some Supermarket center and that school was sick and.... I'm at the beginning of the game."

Seriously, I had to go to Megaton, the "first" little town in the game, and I just got "lost" in the many other locations there are available from the start (up till the point I realized I was running out of ammo and meds).

I played and enjoyed the first 2 titles, but the first person view really helps the immersion. That game is addictive, I tell you that, even if I was (and still am to some extent) a bit overwhelmed due to all the little things you can do and the huge world that is available to you at all time.

A level cap of 30 is more suited for this title. You get to 20 and there are so many other things you can do.

Incidentally, I got the 'linear' impression from the fact that whenever my friends are playing it, they always seem to be doing some mission rather than just toodling around, which led me to believe it wasn't much of a 'do stuff at your lesiure kind of game'. Obviously, I'm wrong.

You get missions all the time, but you don't have to complete 95% of them, and can do them in any order you wish.

Also, almost every time I do a mission, I discover some really interesting new location in the process and get sucked into exploring that which gives me MORE missions.

Ho'Kay, I think I ran into my first glitch, though it probably only works with a decently high speechcraft skill.

Basically, I was able to access a [Speech: 100%] option. Well, you know you gain XP from those, yeah? I was able to do this indefinitely and gained a "free" level from it. I could have theoretically maxed myself out, but I have neither the patience nor the urge to cheapen the game that much.

Anyone else come across this?

Is that the one with Bittercup and the dude that wants to date her? His option about that stays in the dialogue tree no matter what?

Man, I've watched way too many videos o_O

Man, Neg, I wanted to not give it away so people don't go and abuse it. :(

THANKS A LOT...

I never ran into that one. But I did come across another bug that could halt the sidequest in Big Town if you choose to fix the robots. Namely, the robots don't appear. Quest cannot be completed if you don't have a previous save. :(

lol, I spoilered a game I haven't even played.

l33t, b1tch3s~

... and Arefu which turns the entire settlement hostile against me. Both already documented on that bug wiki I mentioned earlier. *crosses fingers for patch soon*
I know I'm like... a week late here but I've only just been able to play Fallout 3 the last couple days.

You didn't happen to attack one of the vampires after you struck a deal between them and Arefu, did you? If so, Arefu being hostile towards you make sense since after the deal they belong to the same faction.

SOME SPOILERS HERE, BROS

Anyway so far my character has been good, having never received negative karma unless there was something really steal-worthy sitting in front of me. Well that's not true, actually - I did kill Roy and his gang after I heard letting them into Tenpenny Tower resulted in Mr Herbert Daring Dashwood's death, along with all the other tennants (I was mainly concerned about the former).

In the beginning, I mistakingly thought weapons such as (Chinese) Assault Rifles and Hunting Rifles were big weapons, so unfortunately one of my tag skills is Big Weapons ~_~. It's not so bad, but I wish I could take it back and switch it to Small Weapons since I consider the big ones pretty useless, for the most part. Anyway, I'm around level 10 now I think and I've just had Threedog send me off to the Museum for the dish (sounds like a pain). Instead of bothering with any of that nonsense I've just been spending time doing side-quests, notably the Wasteland Survival Guidebook for neato perks and stuff. Oh and yeah, the fire ants were a pain - neat reward though.

That's about it ! It's a shame it took me so long to get around to playing it since now we can't all talk about :(

I haven't played it yet. Maybe if they had some magic, swords or bows then I'd like to play. I don't wanna play Oblivion with guns and a shit artstyle like Gears of War.

You didn't happen to attack one of the vampires after you struck a deal between them and Arefu, did you? If so, Arefu being hostile towards you make sense since after the deal they belong to the same faction.

I don't think so. I was pretty much a kitten in my dealings with everyone. I read a thread some time ago where a random barrel could fall on someone in Arefu and turn everyone hostile... Sounded ridiculous at the time, but I'm no programmer so maybe? *shrug*

I beat it once already, but I'll wait for the patch before I give it another go as evil

I haven't played it yet. Maybe if they had some magic, swords or bows then I'd like to play. I don't wanna play Oblivion with guns and a shit artstyle like Gears of War.
Nice troll, guy.

Not really.


I don't think so. I was pretty much a kitten in my dealings with everyone. I read a thread some time ago where a random barrel could fall on someone in Arefu and turn everyone hostile... Sounded ridiculous at the time, but I'm no programmer so maybe? *shrug*

I beat it once already, but I'll wait for the patch before I give it another go as evil
Sounds a bit far fetched but who knows.

I played a little more today - got into a fight with the Talon Mercs again. I dislike going up against a person with a rocket launcher, I really do. I'm not a great fan of shooting at somebody unless I have a 70% chance or higher of actually hitting them in VATS, so I had to get mighty close to this rocket launchin' feller before I shot at him. Silly move, I guess :o he made short work of me when I was at the foot of his little fort of wrecked cars. It reverted back to an auto-save made about 20 minutes ago since all I was doing was simple exploring of the wastelands; I didn't bother reloading. :(

NOTE: They have neat armor for a guy who can't wear Power Armor just yet.

Silly Chewey, running down rockets.

Actually I did that a lot cos the smart AI was supposed to have realized they could be caught in the explosion...except when they didn't. :/

Silly Chewey, running down rockets.

Actually I did that a lot cos the smart AI was supposed to have realized they could be caught in the explosion...except when they didn't. :/
One time coming out of a subway to where I thought GNR was (I hadn't quite figured out what all the doohickeys down the bottom on the radar meant so I just did my own thing) I was ambushed by some raiders. As soon as I walked up the stairs this girly started shooting rockets at me while others had their share with assault rifles and whatever else they had on them. I must have reloaded here at least 10 times; the rocket launcher chick would always kill me, even if I ran like the wind. So eventually I figured the only thing I could I do was just ignore all the assault rifle/10mm shots and just bum-rush this rowdy raider with a rocket. It worked, actually :o but not because I was actually successful in killing her. I can't quite explain it, but as she shot at me her rocket just spontaneously exploded in her face - which killed the guy beside her as well.

The only conclusion I can come to was that she had a really bad aim and shot the fence beside her (and completely out of the way) accidentally. Good times.

hah, awesome.

I've found the best strategy for rocket launchers is to stay behind a corner, pop out and fire once, and then back up. The corner usually protects you pretty well after you get your shot off.

I rarely have time to play and am getting itchy to finish the game. I'm just doing side quest after side quest though, it's nuts how fucking huge this game is.

It's not really that "nuts" if you've played Oblivion or Morrowind.

Bethesda is kinda known for making these huge worlds with too much to do.

This just in (http://gameplasma.com/news/index/view/id/1464/)


Bethesda has announced that they plan on making a content editor and downloadable content for Fallout 3 available in the coming weeks. The official editor for Fallout 3, called the G.E.C.K. (Garden of Eden Creation Kit), will be available for free download in December and will allow PC users to create and add their own content to the game. In addition, the first official downloadable content, Operation: Anchorage, will be available for the Xbox 360 and PC in January, and more downloadable content coming in February and March.


The DLC:


* Operation: Anchorage. Enter a military simulation and fight in one of the greatest battles of the Fallout universe � the liberation of Anchorage, Alaska from its Chinese Communist invaders. An action-packed battle scheduled for release in January.

* The Pitt. Journey to the industrial raider town called The Pitt, located in the remains of Pittsburgh. Choose your side. Scheduled for release in February.

* Broken Steel. Join the ranks of the Brotherhood of Steel and rid the Capital Wasteland of the Enclave remnants once and for all. Continues the adventure past the main quest. Scheduled for release in March.


DLC sounds great, but I specifically bought the PC version for that sweet SDK lovin'. I welcome the GECK. However, I think some will notice the conspicuous absence of a certain console here in regards to DLC... No Sony love, Bethsoft?

It's not really that "nuts" if you've played Oblivion or Morrowind.

Bethesda is kinda known for making these huge worlds with too much to do.

It's still pretty "nuts" regardless of how many games they have made that are also pretty nuts


The editor just makes me that much sadder that my PC can't run this game. =(

TK, your face is nuts.

Also, that DLC looks actually interesting for DLC. Well, damnit all...
Oh well, Rock Band 2 gets my monies instead.

Up until recently, my dream armour has always been the T-51b Power Armour or even other Power Armours. I just wanted Power Armour because they looked great and I figured they were the top of the line armour of the game.

That was until I got my hands on Ranger Battle Armour. I recommend anybody that uses Small Guns or just likes to sneak around gets this - it's awesome.

That's all.

got me some brotherhood of the steel armour.....just need some sort of training now to wear the blinking stuff....

i bought it yesterday and im such a moron because im going to need to study but i dont see myself doing anything but playing it for a while. >;( but that's why i waited so long in the first place and at least ive time off

im being a pretty awesome guy i have to say small guns + all speech and hacking and that which is fun. im really looking forward through the next playthrough where i can be a complete dickhead but i can never do that the first time playing for some reason =[

This game is great

I got this game for Blameless for Christmas. We are both playing it (him more so than me). I'm enjoying it so far. I'm pretty shitty at video games in general, so we'll see how long the enjoyment lasts. VATS is nice if you're a spaz like me and don't like FPS-like combat :(

I'm starting to get into it, and it really is a epic game.

You really feel like you're part of an post-apocalyptic world trying to survive. Even the inter action with people is kind of realistic, and the decisions you make effect the game in real time.

I just spent the last 2 hours looking for Three Dog. I went down into the metro tunnels, only to find dead ends, feral ghouls and an empty ammo supply.. I went out into the open, only to come across Super Mutants intent on tearing me into pieces. I then managed to kill two of them, and take their minigun. Only to then walk round the corner and get blown up by some raiders. It gives you no indication whatsoever as to where you're supposed to head. The glitchy landscape does not help either. I managed to clamber over a load of rubble, and then learn I was not supposed to go that way, because I can't get out anywhere else. Nor can I climb back across, because for some stupid reason, the game neglected to include a jump function.

It seems to have taken Final Fantasy's approach of saying, "yes, you can beat the game. But if you want to do it fully, or without frustrating difficulty, go to the shop and buy the guide."

*I'll have to double post. The PS3 only allows a small amount of text.*

*Continued*

Don't get me wrong. I can see why people like it. But playing this game is starting to feel more like work than fun. Before I decided to go and continue with the story, I was having fun. I began several side quests. Sold some equipment. And met some interesting people. The combat system I enjoy. And character interaction is the best i've seen in a video game.

But like I said, for the last 2 hours. It's been annoying and tiresome. Maybe I'll get the hang of it soon. I don't want to give up on it. Because I know it's got the potential to keep me hooked for ages. I'm just having a hard time seeing why at the moment..

i dunno if its just the pc version but there's a marker on the (local) map showing which direction youre heading in relative to your current position! and which door to exit through to get there. but maybe that isnt on ps3?

When I first started playing I did the same as Flux. I didn't really follow the map/radar and wound up in a Raider camp w/ some Super Mutants. But then I used the map/radar and discovered the game pretty much hand feeds you every little thing you need to finish a quest... it really isn't all that hard.

ps you don't need a guide. At all really.

Dogmeat isn't essential and I didn't even know about him the first time I played it. I got him on my second play through and he's more annoying than helpful, if he dies he stays dead so be prepared to load a lot if you want to keep him, I ended up just leaving him in my megaton house for most of the game.

Fawkes is the only good ally to have really

Megaton?


Ha ha, I blew the whole town back then...

And holyshit was it worth it! Sure there are many sidequests I cannot do anymore... That I'll have to complete on a second playthrough, but whatever. The explosion alone was well worth it. Not everyday you'll witness a nuclear explosion with your own eyes... �_�




***psychotic voice... �_� I like fireworks �n�

I kept Dogmeat at my house. I don't want him to die :( I am pretty impressed with the AI of NPC allies in this game. Just wish they would know when to stay back.

I got lost on my way to the Mall where I was sent by Three Dog (hopefully this doesn't count as a spoiler e_e). I ended up all over the city, but I at least picked up some other locations I can fast travel to in the future.

I'm like level 15 now :o still haven't completed Three Dog's quest.

I used my speech skill to just have him tell me where my Dad was headed. Took off to Rivet City which wasn't as bad of a jog as I thought it was. Talked to Dr. Li and now I'm considering heading over to where the "old lab" is. EXCITING

This game is really eating up my time like crazy. Thank god I still have the better part of a month off for break.

I carried on with it today. I'm having a little bit more fun. Got some good weapons and found dogmeat. I'm debating if I should leave him in my Megaton house though.

I've still not found Three Dog! I mean to be fair, I have not really been looking. But the amount of time i have spent exploring should have given me some kind of result?!

It's a pain in the arse having no money. Everytime I finish a battle with some raiders, I steal their stuff and go to craterside supplys and sell it all. And it's not that profitable. But my stuff is in need of fixing up.

Sigh......I wish I were a Brotherhood Outcast

But yeah, I'm feeling better about the game than I was this morning. It's all I've played today anyway.

I'd rather not go into the Metro tunnels to get through to Three Dog. But it seems like that's the only option?

tunnels to Three Dog aren't too bad. Confusing, but if you check the Local Map compulsively and look out for the marker, you're in good shape. Just make sure you have the right quest selected! After a certain point there will be in game signs leading you the way. Lots of ghouls iirc but its not bad.

As far as money goes, I had a real issue with this at the start of the game. Especially because I needed to buy ammo for my energy weapons all the time. I'd go scope out a place, take some goodies, but the net profit (after taking into account repairs and ammo etc) was pretty low. Every now and then you come across a place that's pretty awesome for money making items, or a "TURN X ITEM IN TO ME" repeatable quest. Stick some points in repair and keep an eye out for armor and weapons you use (so you can repair on the go.

I found Vault 92 and Nick says he's got a quest to go there. I haven't gotten the quest yet, but I'm not gonna ask him where just yet. I'm eager to get on with the main quest line, but I'm trying to pace myself. Part of me really wants to look up a couple hints in the game, but I've been pretty vigilant in not

Just about lvl 17. I need more microfussion cells. >:O

I did go through the tunnels. But I came up at friendship station and ended up wandering around for an hour looking for the right way to head. Until i eventually caught sight of a part of the tunnels I had missed. I went through there and found what I needed. I've just met Three Dog and have gone back to Megaton to sell some stuff.

That Behemoth fight was fun. I just whipped out the Fat Man and blew his leg off! Reminded me of a few years ago when I was in Moria with some pals. We had a tough time with something similar....oh. Hi guys!

I'm feeling even better about the game now. I still maintain that it's shit how they didn't sort out some the glitchy landscape. And why did they neglect to give us a jump function? I'm still trying to understand that one..

But yes. It's a great game. I'm glad I didn't fuck it off when I felt like doing so.

Also, I now feel like I have the balls to take on The Family And by balls I mean better equipment and my trusty dog.

There is a jump function ?_? at least on PC version. It's a bit weird though. On regular landscape, you're able to jump fine. Sometimes if I'm trying to climb up a pile of rubble and I'm not totally flat/stable on a piece of it, I can't jump.

But yeah, some parts like that are irritating. You're not sure if the pile of rubble is there as an in-game way to keep you from accessing an area from that direction, or if you're actually able to somehow get over it and into the next area. I'm confident a child would have no problem crawling over some of the rubble you can't get around :o But I realize that for the sake of gaemplay, there needs to have some barriers in place like that.

Haha Cassie. I just this minute came on here to say I'm an idiot. Yes there is a jump function. Why the hell i've been missing it is a mystery to me.

And yeah, that's what I'm talking about. It seems silly that the game makes it so you're not allowed to climb certain parts. But if you strafe enough from side to side, and just keep swapping direction, you can actually get to places you're obviously not supposed to. The rubble in DC being a prime example.

I should say though, that I recently read that Bethesda are in the process of getting a patch avaible for download?

I have come across a few more glitches. Most of which involve Dogmeat.

**POTENTIAL SPOILERS**

When I went back around Chevy Chase to look for any equipment I had missed. I saw a Super Mutant lay on the ground. And his Hunting Rifle was just floating in mid-air. I left and came back. And it was still there.

When I left GNS out the back exit, I went through and out the otherside of the dupont ( i think it's called dupont) station and fought some ghouls. Found a Blue Acess Card. What it's for I don't have a clue. But when I tried to move across over a bridge. Dogmeat started to follow and then ran into an invisible wall. I went back across and told him to follow, and he did. But as soon as i tried to get across again, the same thing happened. I think I'm supposed to go over there to get to the museum. But It wont let Dogmeat follow.

I went back into GNS and he started growling at nothing.

There are others. But i've ran out of space to type.

Fawkes is the only good ally to have really
I'm guessing you've never used Charon.

Anyone else visit Oasis yet?

One of the neater places in the game. Also some pretty funny scenes/dialog/characters there. The tree had me cracking up. Nick says he is a reference to an older Fallout, but I haven't played older ones. (I've noticed other possible references as well, or at least I think they are just by the way the game talks about them).

Anyway if I had to live one place in the capital wasteland, it'd probably be the oasis, even if I had to turn into a hippie druid

This is basically a message to anyone who complains about Dogmeat dying too much.

Stop being so damned gungho about battles. The best strategy is to kill Dogmeat's target as his health is refilled after each enemy he downs.

jumping's just like oblivion, a bit dodgy but fine most of the time. bb level 17 is impressive, i'm only ten but i havent played ofr a few days cos i been studyng :'[

I just got back from the shops. I went with the intention of swapping the Blu-Ray copy of Hancock i bought for my dad at Christmas for the new Tomb Raider. (My sister bought it for my little brother and they live in the same house, so it's pointless having two copies).

I ended up keeping Hancock for myself, just buying the new Tomb Raider for him...and I bought Dead Space. I imagine i'll get back onto Fallout 3 soon. I'm just not sure when.

I thought you might buy Dead Space lol. It's good but I have to start again when I get my new ps3, they have to take my HDD when they take the console. Same for Fallout 3 :(

My PS3 is broke jftr lol.

Fallout 3 is very addicting for me as well, but sadly I had to break the addiction because I go back to school on Monday and do not have much time to play...... :(

WTF! Harkus jinxed my PS3 I think. 3 different games have froze up on me in the last 2 hours.

WTF?!??!!?

im about to get it, but i have a question.

is the collectors edition REALLY worth it? i mean, does it have something that you can actually be proud of having?.
i can easily fork the cash for it, but if i buy the regular edition i can buy another game.

It has a 5" Vault Boy Bobblehead. An art book. (I was looking through that last night, and it's good. Some nice work in there). And then it's got a making of DVD, which I have yet to watch. Plus you get the "Lunchbox" that it all comes in.

If it's worth it or not is really a matter of opinion. I got mine on half price though. It was on sale for one week only at Gamestation. So I say mine was worth it.

But I don't know how much you're looking at paying?

Also, if you go back a few pages in the latest purchase thread, there are some photos I uploaded when I bought mine. Just in case you want to look at what you would be getting..

I finished the main quest line. Real spoilers ahead. Not just vague references. So don't look unless you've finished the main quest. Seriously. I read the marked spoilers too even if I haven't been far, but I'm really warning you :o


So I knew the end of the main quest line was the end of the game, no questions asked, thanks to The Master being an asshole and spoiling the fact that you die at the end (I guess there might be other options? like telling them to fuck off or having Sentinel Lyons do it, I'll have to see). So I knew advancing the main quest line was going to get me stuck in a torrent toward the ending and that I should get all of my exploring out of the way first.

Well I'd been level 20 for awhile. I haven't explored a large fraction of the map, but I felt like I got enough quests out of the way that I could go ahead and try it. See, I want to play the game again with a new character, but I don't want it to become overly stale -- I don't want to start a new game knowing exactly where to go, who has the good stuff, where to round up quests, etc. So I figured ending my first game after only completing a small portion might be worth doing. Like TK said, I do like to maintain a little bit of roleplaying in these games, and I can't imagine my character not being furious at the Enclave for getting Dad killed. (Btw, I was devastated during that scene. I want Dad to be my real dad :( )

So the main quest line is actually pretty short. I'm certain I could've completed it at a far lower level. All I used throughout most of the game was Combat Armor/Helmet and a laser rifle (plasma rifles projectile speed is too slow and they only carry 12 shots per reload). The story was good overall. I panicked toward the end because I couldnt' figure out what the activation code was :D lol. I realize since no one had told me outright, it had to be something I could figure out on my own, and sure enough. TBH, I'm quite certain I could've survived in that chamber for a good in-game hour or two. I had enough Rad Away and RadX to last me a lifetime, not to mention the radiation levels weren't even THAT high. Imagine if I had a radiation suit.

Overall, I love the game. I'm disappointed the main quest line can be wrapped up so quickly. I mean, once you get the GECK, you're kinda on track to finish the rest. I guess you could run around for awhile and do whatever else, but ti seems weird when they're all like "HURRY UP WE GOTTA DO THIS NOW OR WE'RE DOOMED" to go and bring Nuka Cola Quantum to some dude so he can get laid :o

Lucky enough for me, as I've mentioned before, I can go back, make a new character and start again. Having high Speech and being good has its benefits (I love getting praised by Three Dog on the radio, Dad, and the people of Megaton), but sometimes it'd be so nice to blow someone's head off. Next character will probably be far more of an asshole. In terms of roleplaying, it'd probably make more sense to not be so sickeningly sweet, trusting, and forgiving.

Debating whether or not I want to see alternative endings for my character, or save them for another. Still depressed about Dad :(

Bethesda lied, there are no alternative endings.

I was plesantly surprised at how well Fallout 3 turned out. I though Bethesda was going to seriously fuck it up.

The game still has some pretty major flaws (combat is too easy, main quest goes from good to lackluster, NPC depth is lacking, scale is too small/condensed, character creation is seriously drawn out, etc), but I'd still give it a 7.5 out of 10. I took off a full point for not being able to kill kids, most of whom are exceptionally annoying and really need to die.

It's certainly better than Oblivion.

My biggest complaint is actually that there is no time limit.

And I thought I was the only one that liked the time limit in the original.

It has a 5" Vault Boy Bobblehead. An art book. (I was looking through that last night, and it's good. Some nice work in there). And then it's got a making of DVD, which I have yet to watch. Plus you get the "Lunchbox" that it all comes in.

If it's worth it or not is really a matter of opinion. I got mine on half price though. It was on sale for one week only at Gamestation. So I say mine was worth it.

But I don't know how much you're looking at paying?

Also, if you go back a few pages in the latest purchase thread, there are some photos I uploaded when I bought mine. Just in case you want to look at what you would be getting..


i asked because i saw it that same day.
sure, the lunchbox looks cool, but no way in hell im using it for college.
i use a street fighter 2 backpack.
however, after a second thought, i looked at the prices (here in mexico) and the difference between the normal version and the LE is about 14 dollars, so il get the LE version

Patch finally out today...and the reports of damaged save games fly.

Sounds like a good idea to make a back up regardless of platform.

A buddy lost his girlfriend to Fallout 3. Until he discovered his right hand. Now he's good again.