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tangotreats
07-16-2009, 09:24 AM
Obviously you're much more of a connoisseur of this piece than myself. I regret to say it's one of those works I take for granted somewhat - even though I rank it as the highest of masterpieces (isn't this always the way..). I'd love to hear any of Boult's recordings - thanks for the tip! For me, it's a piece best appreciated at a live concert, with all the intention and imperfection that goes along with that.

Do you know, I haven't heard Holst's own!!! Soon enough...

I hear you on the portamento btw :)

The Planets is a lot like Star Wars. Everybody knows it so well and has heard it a billion times, to the extent where it's difficult to take a step back and realise that it's actually a great piece. Turn off that familiarity and just listen to it for its own merits. That's hard work. I'm trying to do it more and more lately. Yesterday I did Beethoven's 5th - and for the first time realised that virtually every bar of the first movement is a variation on "da da da daaah"; I'm not the biggest Beethoven fan but the greatness of it really reached me for the first time. Overexposure can be a bad thing and it can spoil great things if you don't keep it under control. I know what you mean about taking it for granted.

It's also amazing how much The Planets has influenced film scoring and how much it continues to do so, even after 90 years. Powell's Ice Age 3 rips off Jupiter so bad you'd think it was Yoko Kanno in disguise.

The Planets is playing at this year's Proms, coupled with Elgar's Cockaigne and Delius' The Song Of The High Hills - on Saturday 25th if I remember correctly. I've got my tickets. It's going to be amazing. (Also, I haven't heard Charles Mackerras live before and I'm particularly looking forward to seeing him conduct in the flesh.)

I actually don't have Boult's Planets on disc - only vinyl. Shame on me!

I WILL upload some later on. Holst's own recordings I think I'll start with, if you can stand 85 year old sound quality. ;)

tangotreats
07-16-2009, 07:33 PM
OK folks, here we go: Two *very* historical recordings of The Planets for you to compare.

The composer recorded the work twice - once acoustically in 1922/1923 with a very reduced orchestra, and again electrically in 1925/1926 with a larger orchestra.

Now, these recordings are 86 and 83 years old respectively. If you don't like that "vintage sound" then don't bother with these - they're good for historical interest but not for a hi-fi listening perspective. Get them if you want to hear how Holst interpreted his own music nearly ninety years ago.

Both are performed by the LSO, under Holst's baton.

1923: WARNING - this remastering was done in 1989 and, not beating about the bush, it sounds like SHIT - there is a better version available from Pristine Classical (http://pristineclassical.com/) but if you want that one you'll have to go and buy it. That company does GREAT work and the proprieter, Andrew Rose, in addition to being an absolute genius, is also a VERY nice fellow.

1926: This one sounds much much better. It's a digital restoration made by EMI in 1992. It sounds pretty good. There is another version available on Naxos Historical done a couple of years ago but I think this one is better.

Both of these are out of print.

http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=vqlh3srucr

As a little bonus...

Here's Jupiter from Leopold Stokowski's vile recording with the Los Angeles Philharmonic. This is a vinyl transfer - this monstrosity is available on CD but I don't have it and I'm not prepared to dignify it by spending cash on it.

The sleeve notes talk a great deal of bollocks:

"This unusual music... has found its supreme interpreter. Stokowski captures its subtlest nuances of tone and its full range of orchestral colour, in an album that is a High-Fidelity showpiece!"

Believe me folks, that is nothing more than marketing puff. Listen for yourself! ;)

http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=rwgn0hkiuj

Lucidolph
07-17-2009, 03:57 PM
LUCIDOLPH IT IS HERE! IN FLAC!
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1254627&postcount=400

ooohh.. that's what that was, when someone says "IT'S DONE" and then "HERE IT IS"... i kinda dont know what it IS xD

Perhaps next time u can put what the upload IS written there, so if someone would search for it they would find it easier, and it's clearer to other people that it's been uploaded...

also, can u upload it in MP3, no i cant DL in flac and then convert, coz i have a very tight download limit..

sorry

Lucidolph
07-17-2009, 03:59 PM
Dx triple post, sorry

Lucidolph
07-17-2009, 03:59 PM
I have Yellow River and Butt3rf1y Lovers but not those particular recordings. Any good to you? :)

Yesss... Please ;D
Thanksss ^^

Also, Danny, am i still waiting for the MP3 version of that something mass BBC something youtube vid but, u know what i mean xD

Am i still waiting for that or have i missed it, or have u given up, or.. eh, sorry, just really interested x]

tangotreats
07-17-2009, 04:51 PM
IN fourteen minutes, you will be satisfied. ;)

[Edit: Or not... Upload failed. Bollocks to Rapidspread. Trying again.]

dooj17
07-17-2009, 05:00 PM
Bernard Herrmann's version of Holst's The Planets

http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1287167&postcount=2769

rick_says
07-18-2009, 12:30 AM
OK folks, here we go: Two *very* historical recordings of The Planets for you to compare.


http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=vqlh3srucr



Thanks, I was listening to these last night for hours.
~Rick

FLAVA J
07-18-2009, 03:06 AM
ooohh.. that's what that was, when someone says "IT'S DONE" and then "HERE IT IS"... i kinda dont know what it IS xD

1. YOU CLICK ON THE LINKS! OR READ YOUR ORIGINAL POST THAT I QUOTED IN MY POST.http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1285320&postcount=498

Perhaps next time u can put what the upload IS written there, so if someone would search for it they would find it easier, and it's clearer to other people that it's been uploaded...

2. ARE YOU TALKING TO ME OR THE PERSON WHO WAS SO KIND AS TO UPLOAD IT? (SEE POINT 1)

also, can u upload it in MP3, no i cant DL in flac and then convert, coz i have a very tight download limit..

3. ASK THE ORIGINAL UPLOADER.

streichorchester
07-18-2009, 05:37 AM
Posted at melomaniacos in FLAC:

Symphonies No. 1 & 2
http://rapidshare.com/files/217402820/H12.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/217393218/H12.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/217412508/H12.part3.rar

Symphony No. 3
http://rapidshare.com/files/217427223/H36.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/217425992/H36.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/217437321/H36.part3.rar

Symphony No. 4
http://rapidshare.com/files/217394054/H4etc.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/217368062/H4etc.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/217388939/H4etc.part3.rar

Symphonies No. 5 & 7
http://rapidshare.com/files/217469190/H57.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/217449932/H57.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/217456327/H57.part3.rar

Other orchestral works
http://rapidshare.com/files/217468591/HVol.5.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/217486695/HVol.5.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/217482246/HVol.5.part3.rar

All passwords:#@n$0n

Jeez, I go out and buy these after not finding them for a year online thinking I'll never see them on here unless I posted them myself, and here they are meer weeks after I bought the collections. But thanks for Vol. 5, I didn't have that one.

Now if I can only find Popov's symphonies, especially the first one...

Lens of Truth
07-18-2009, 09:26 PM
HOLST - ORCHESTRAL WORKS

MP3-V0 / 109MB / 8 tracks / 1:09
http://rapidshare.com/files/257289829/Holst_-_Beni_Mora_etc.rar

Quotation from Thomas Hardy's The Return of the Native written above the score of Egdon Heath:


"A place perfectly accordant with man's nature - neither ghastly, hateful nor ugly; neither commonplace, unmeaning nor tame; but like man, slighted and enduring; and withal singularly colossal and mysterious in its swarthy monotony"

Gramophone review:

This disc, superbly recorded in the Henry Wood Hall in Glasgow, makes a most welcome addition to Naxos's growing collection of English music. In every way it provides formidable rivalry for the two excellent full-price Holst discs which substantially overlap with this in repertory — from Richard Hickox on Chandos and from Sir Adrian Boult on Lyrita in vintage performances from around 1970.

Like Hickox, Lloyd-Jones has as his two weightiest items the Hardy-inspired Egdon Heath, arguably Holst's finest work, as well as the prelude and fugue. Hammersmith, comparably dark and intense. But where Hickox has the latter in its usual orchestral form, Lloyd-Jones chooses the wind-band version, achieving a subtlety of shading in phrasing and dynamic amply to justify that striking choice. The Chandos recording is sumptious, but the Naxos sound is at least as vividly atmospheric, while letting one hear more inner detail, particularly important in the fugue.
As to interpretation. Hickox is a degree warmer in phrasing and more passionate in his build-up of climaxes, where Lloyd-Jones, generally adopting more flowing speeds closer to those of Boult, is more objective, while bringing out to the full the tenderness and refinement of the writing. Particularly beautiful is the performance of A Somerset Rhapsody which opens the disc, with the cor anglais solo ravishingly played. Boult of course has unique authority in this music, and the Lyrita analogue recordings — among the finest of their period — still sound superb, with clean focus and separation.

Yet quite apart from the intrinsic quality of Lloyd-Jones's performances with the Scottish orchestra, and the formidable advantage of price, his grouping of works is more generous than that on either rival disc. The six works are neatly balanced, three dating from before the climactic period of The Planets and The Hymn of Jesus, and three after. Particularly valuable — and not included on either rival disc — is the atmospheric Invocation for cello and orchestra of 1911, rather dismissed by Imogen Holst, but here given a yearningly intense, deeply thoughtful performance with Tim Hugh as soloist.

A highly recommendable offering, whether for the dedicated Holstian or the newcomer wanting to investigate this composer's more characteristic work outside The Planets.

Lens of Truth
07-18-2009, 09:51 PM
Turn off that familiarity and just listen to it for its own merits. That's hard work. I'm trying to do it more and more lately. Yesterday I did Beethoven's 5th - and for the first time realised that virtually every bar of the first movement is a variation on "da da da daaah"; I'm not the biggest Beethoven fan but the greatness of it really reached me for the first time. Overexposure can be a bad thing and it can spoil great things if you don't keep it under control.

I’ve had exactly the same experience with the 5th. The rhythmic incisiveness of the first movement seems almost superhuman once you take a step back. The opening motif is there even underpinning the elegant second subject - but totally appropriately, inevitably. The bit that really takes my breath away though is at end of the exposition, when it transforms into a cascading major fanfare.

The 7th has a similar level of concentrated motivic development, and is definitely among my favourite symphonies by anyone. I love the way Beethoven seems to ‘explain’ his default tremolo string setting at the beginning of the coda to the first movement - a crescendo over a weird chromatic bass where violins gradually foreshorten a rhythmic figure until it becomes that orgasmic tremolo; as if this formal rigour and energy is latently there all the time packed into every gesture, every colour..

[sorry, that doesn’t really make sense – I get very purple sometimes thinking about my favourite music ;)]

I’m considering going to Unsuk Chin’s Cello Concerto on the 14th of August.. Also there’s Bruckner 3 at some point. It depends on work :( Would love to have gone to tonight’s Creation (new translation and all). The Mackerras concert also sounds tasty..

Lens of Truth
07-18-2009, 09:58 PM
HAYDN - STRING QUARTETS OP. 76

(Performed by Quatuor Mosa�ques on period instruments)
MP3-V0


CD1: http://rapidshare.com/files/257364323/Haydn_Quartets_Op.76_CD1.rar

String Quartet Op.76 No.1 in G major 24:36
1 Allegro con spirito 8:58
2 Adagio sostenuto 6:32
3 Menuet, Presto. Trio 2:51
4 Finale. Allegro ma non troppo 6:15

String Quartet Op.76 No.5 in D major 18:20
5 Allegretto 5:10
6 Largo ma non troppo; cantabile e mesto 6:45
7 Menuet. Allegro ma non troppo. Trio 2:51
8 Finale. Presto 3:34

String Quartet Op.76 No.4 in B flat major "Sunrise" 23:07
9 Allegro con spirito 8:25
10 Adagio 5:27
11 Menuet. Allegro. Trio 4:35
12 Finale. Allegro ma non troppo 4:40

CD2: http://rapidshare.com/files/257737507/Haydn_Quartets_Op.76_CD2.rar

String Quartet Op.76 No.2 in D minor "Fifths" 22:40
1 Allegro 9:43
2 Adante o pi� tosto allegretto 5:34
3 Menuet. Allegro ma non troppo. Trio 3:24
4 Finale. Vivace assai 3:59

String Quartet Op.76 No.6 in E flat major 23:34
5 Allegretto 7:10
6 Fantasia. Adagio 6:12
7 Menuet. Presto. Alternativa 3:34
8 Finale. Allegro spiritoso 6:38

String Quartet Op.76 No.3 in C major "Emperor" 27:22
9 Allegro 10:07
10 Poco adagio; cantabile 6:51
11 Menuet. Allegro. Trio 4:37
12 Finale. Presto 5:47

tangotreats
07-18-2009, 11:37 PM
Chin's Cello Concerto is on the 13th - that's a Thursday. Also playing - The Rite Of Spring and Ravel's La Valse. Lovely!

I've been looking at that one myself. If you do decide to go - fancy a pint after?

Sirusjr
07-18-2009, 11:43 PM
Lens - Holst's Orchestral works is amazing! Thanks so much for sharing this gem!

Lens of Truth
07-18-2009, 11:44 PM
Ah ok, the 13th. It sounds like an ideal concert. I'll let you know if I can make it. A pint sounds cool :)

Sirus - glad you like it! Review added above.

Sirusjr
07-18-2009, 11:59 PM
Ah ok, the 13th. It sounds like an ideal concert. I'll let you know if I can make it. A pint sounds cool :)

Sirus - glad you like it! Review added above.
My only complaint is overall the album is so quiet!! I have to crank my speakers to double my normal volume to enjoy it at some parts.

tangotreats
07-19-2009, 12:38 AM
*sigh*

Not you, as well... ;)

It's not quiet - it's a truly glorious recording that captures the sound of a symphony orchestra in a concert hall, quite unlike most made today. No fake reverb, no dynamics compression, no loudness war - just a splendid ensemble performing in a beautiful hall. Lens: Is this the Henry Wood Hall?

And - I live near Hammersmith. It's nothing like this piece of music! It's one endless traffic jam.

Sirusjr
07-19-2009, 12:55 AM
The problem is many times I find myself using music to drown out the noises around me such as my dad's radio and whistling, or my brother's playing of his terrible indie music on his tinny macbook speakers or the sound of the fan on a hot day such as today. Thus I need something a little louder so that I can actually hear the subtle beauty of it while properly using it to drown out the other sounds.
I am sure it sounds wonderful in a concert hall with a quiet audience but sadly I am rarely in such a situation so the often varied dynamics of the music can be quite iritating. I turn up the quieter parts so that I can hear them at the same volume as everything else around me only to be blown away when the music reaches the "ordinary" loudness level.

tangotreats
07-19-2009, 02:16 AM
Don't get me wrong, I understand... ;)

Try listening to this in your car. Silence... silence... silence... BOOM BOOM BOOM AAAAAAAAARGH!!! *smash / police sirens*... Silence... silence... silence.

It just bothers me that people hear a good recording and think there's something wrong with it. It's a symptom of the horrid loudness wars, and of a decade of symphonic recordings made by engineers who don't have the foggiest idea how to record an orchestra, or capture it in its natural environment. The modern technique is to stuff a microphone into every instrument you can, record on five million tracks, mix the bejeezus out of it all in the mastering studio, whack on a tonne of fake reverb and compress the shit out of it so that it ALL sounds loud - even the quiet bits.

Even if it's inconvenient to listen to, it's still nice to hear a recording like this - that sounds like a bunch of people sitting in a large room playing instruments, as it should be. Judiciously placed microphones capturing sections and hall ambience. The conductor is your mixing desk - if you've got the levels right and the microphones in a decent place, you don't need multitrack and you don't need a desk. The concert hall is your reverb console. There is no dynamics compression - because there isn't in real life, and one of the most important, miraculous features of the modern symphony orchestra is its ability to play the most delicate pianissimo, right through to ear-shattering end-of-the-world fortissimo.

When I am listening to music, I don't want to hear the recording - I want to hear the music; and approximate as much as possible the experience of being there. It isn't about technology - it's about humans talking to other humans with the universal language of music.

(Apologies - many people here have called me a snob, and I don't deny that for a moment where this kind of thing is concerned. Feel free to ignore my fevered ranting. :))

Sirusjr
07-19-2009, 02:44 AM
Oh no I didn't want to suggest the recording had anything wrong with it. It is a wonderful recording to have such a variety of dynamics and sound so wonderful. The biggest problem comes when I leave sounds on for my aol instant messenger and turning up the master volume leaves me with a startling DING every time someone talks to me. I think the major reason I don't have as much of an appreciation for the re-creation of being there is that I don't sit through live classical all that much if at all.

1337
07-19-2009, 08:29 AM
More Orchestral Works By Holst (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Holst-Orchestral-Works-Alexander-Baillie/dp/B000027QVY) just in case anyone is interested !





http://rapidshare.com/files/241854213/GH-owlpoda.rar

Post from "when-the-musics-over.blogspot.com"

Lens of Truth
07-20-2009, 03:18 AM
My only complaint is overall the album is so quiet!! I have to crank my speakers to double my normal volume to enjoy it at some parts.

I'm mostly with danny on this one, but I do know what you mean. For mp3 listening I tend to avoid very natural sounding recordings such as this - they really show up the weakness of even the best LAME (though funnily enough the Holst came out pretty ok with V-0).

I don't know about you, but I play my mp3s on the bus through my zen and the shitty headphones it came with. Not ideal. This Naxos cd sounds gorgeous on our modest denon hi-fi though (and it's VERY temperamental with classical). I just don't much like listening 'seriously' to music in such compromised quality, and some recordings are more 'artificial' shall we say and suit the mp3 treatment better.

Film music doesn't often go for the concert hall sound (though some of Goldsmith's with this same orchestra do so very persuasively), so it's less of a problem there too. And being a fan of film scores and game music, I actually quite like the overmiked, fake reverb etc on occasion. I'm not quite the purist danny is :)

There is definitely no gain or other fiddles that could sensibly be applied to these Holst tracks. It would cause all kinds of hideous distortion. It's a great shame that we can't all just sit with great hi-fi equipment in a marble hall with busts of all the great composers looking approvingly while we absorb their music in ideal quality.. [the lp cover posted recently in the orchestral thread puts a very interesting spin on this.. but Beethoven looks none too happy :(]

Thanks 1337 for moar Holst!!

CD2 added to the Haydn Op.76 ^^

streichorchester
07-20-2009, 07:28 AM
I find your lack of Vaughan Williams disturbing, Classical by Request thread.



http://rapidshare.com/files/257827701/symphonies6_8.rar

Ripped it myself, so let me know if there are errors since it was a rush job.

tangotreats
07-20-2009, 09:30 AM
I'm mostly with danny on this one, but I do know what you mean. For mp3 listening I tend to avoid very natural sounding recordings such as this - they really show up the weakness of even the best LAME (though funnily enough the Holst came out pretty ok with V-0).

LAME is great but it's not perfect. Well, actually, strike that - LAME is pretty much perfect but MP3 is just inadequate for some things. Particularly symphonic music. But it does its best - and with the right settings and the latest version, it can do wonders - even for killer samples. 3.98.2, Joint Stereo, VBR, and a lowpass filter are the four very best solutions.


Film music doesn't often go for the concert hall sound (though some of Goldsmith's with this same orchestra do so very persuasively), so it's less of a problem there too. And being a fan of film scores and game music, I actually quite like the overmiked, fake reverb etc on occasion. I'm not quite the purist danny is :)

Don't get me wrong - that recording technique has a place, and sometimes it's the best technique to use - particularly with composers like Goldsmith who need a certain kind of clarity that can't be achieved 100% in the concert hall.

It just worries me when someone hears a lifelike recording and thinks there is something wrong with it because it doesn't sound like it was recorded by Alan "Compressors and Gain and Reverb To Max" Meyerson.

It sets a dangerous prececent when perceptions shift to interpret the inferior as the superior. It happened with film music (we live in a world where growing numbers of people think Williams is old fashioned and irrelevant, and Ramin Dwajidi / etc are going to lead the new golden age of film scoring) and it (is) happenn(ed/ing) to symphonic recording. Classical music is still... mostly... engineered sensibly but that is changing. A great pity because most symphony orchestras are still at the top of their game, and are capable of performing such beautiful sounds, and for the first time technology is sufficiently advanced that we could capture them in a recording - but we never will because recording today is about volume and clarity - not subtlety and realism.


It's a great shame that we can't all just sit with great hi-fi equipment in a marble hall with busts of all the great composers looking approvingly while we absorb their music in ideal quality.. [the lp cover posted recently in the orchestral thread puts a very interesting spin on this.. but Beethoven looks none too happy :(]


Forget that - I want a time machine!!

Obviously Ludwig doesn't understand the dreadful 1960s pun. ;)

Sirusjr
07-20-2009, 05:04 PM
The problem with volume differences is the same in all genres for me. I don't like to be listening to one or two FLAC rips of my Metal CDs and then switch to another only to have it be half the volume. Then when I turn it up for that one, when i switch to another that is the same volume as the first two, I am blown away. I like everything to be a uniform volume so that I don't have to worry about turning the volume back down after something quiet.

Lens of Truth
07-20-2009, 05:56 PM
It sets a dangerous prececent when perceptions shift to interpret the inferior as the superior.

I'm tempted to open a can of worms here on contemporary culture and the popular mindset that puts such severe limitations on what music is allowed to be (ie music = a song) and always shuns subtlety and depth in favour of the obvious.

Slightly off topic, have you seen 'How to be a composer' on BBC4 with Paul Morely? I hate this pontificating pseud anyway, but this was nightmare television. *Perhaps* a well-intentioned attempt to expand people's notion of what music can be.. It came off more as an excruciating vanity trip for Morely (and by extension arrogant musical ignoramuses everywhere). I can't believe the Royal Academy conspired in this! I felt hurt and betrayed on behalf of the few REAL composers I know. The only word for it is SICK. There's almost an 'Office' style of cringe-making humour in there if you can put yourself in the right frame of mind.

I knew I shouldn't have watched it, but I'm too much of a masochist!


Forget that - I want a time machine!!

Ah yes, but wouldn't we be shocked by the standard of the playing? In Beethoven's day I think we would. We're so used to the uber-virtuosity of modern orchestras that can toss off the Rite of Spring without breaking a sweat.

Perhaps the extra grit would be a good thing though..

Sirusjr
07-21-2009, 04:37 PM
Hey guys I just ordered This CD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000MGTFFI/ref=nosim/krisssoccersi-20/) on a whim to get free shipping. Sounds interesting from the samples so I will post a rip when it arrives :3

1337
07-21-2009, 04:41 PM
Hey guys I just ordered This CD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000MGTFFI/ref=nosim/krisssoccersi-20/) on a whim to get free shipping. Sounds interesting from the samples so I will post a rip when it arrives :3

I have a few recordings of this piece, its quite an interesting piece. In live performances, the chorus is usually "hidden" behind curtains.

Lens of Truth
07-21-2009, 07:04 PM
Hey guys I just ordered This CD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000MGTFFI/ref=nosim/krisssoccersi-20/) on a whim to get free shipping. Sounds interesting from the samples so I will post a rip when it arrives :3

I look forward to hearing this piece. I don't know any Busoni apart from his piano transcriptions of Bach. And curtained-off choirs are always a good thing :)

tangotreats
07-22-2009, 12:55 AM
GORGEOUS piece, you will NOT be disappointed!

arthierr
07-22-2009, 04:46 PM
Thanks for Symphony n�6!

About the sound volume topic, just one comment: Orchestral music was invented centuries ago and was only meant to be listened live, in a dedicated hall, not in a bus or in a room with your family doing noisy stuff around. So it's normal it doesn't go very well with these situations. Orchestral music isn't meant to be sonic wallpaper, it's grand music, meant to be listened to with attention, respect, and in a good (i.e. calm) environment. To make a culinary comparison: if you're a true gastronom, you don't eat fast-food and high-end french cuisine the same way.

Dharma
07-23-2009, 12:26 AM
Simply put: composers use soft dynamics for a reason and it isn't to annoy the listener. It's sad that there are so many recording engineers that don't understand this. I had to argue with one for 20 minutes a few weeks ago because he wanted to level out the volume on one of my pieces.

dooj17
07-23-2009, 02:15 AM
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tangotreats
07-23-2009, 09:50 AM
Simply put: composers use soft dynamics for a reason and it isn't to annoy the listener. It's sad that there are so many recording engineers that don't understand this. I had to argue with one for 20 minutes a few weeks ago because he wanted to level out the volume on one of my pieces.

The generation of recording engineers who respected music as an artform has tragically largely died out or retired now - and those who remain are under pressure from blockhead studio executives who complain that their recordings are "quieter" than those made by other engineers and therefore there must be something wrong with them.

Recording used to be about trying to bring the sound of live musicians into your home - to make the recording medium as transparent as possible and simply render the music, within a natural ambience, as accurately and as lifelike as possible.

The rot has set in faster outside of orchestral music, but the "loudness wars" have now made their mark on every single genre of recorded music.

Dharma: What genre are you working in? Was it a studio session? Did you win in the end?

I write concert and film music but have yet to enjoy the pleasure of working with live musicians - so I have these battles to look forward to... :/

Lens of Truth
07-23-2009, 05:32 PM
Do you ever find yourself reaching for the volume control to actually replicate REAL concert dynamics?? I know I do. I hate it when something marked deep in the 'p's comes out mezzo forte in a recording - and the corollary of weakened crescendos. Gergiev’s Rite of Spring is one such offender; though viscerally exciting, it's all over the place as a recording.

At the other end of the spectrum, some breathtakingly natural, expansive modern recordings I treasure are: Andrew Davis' Vaughan Williams 6 (with gorgeous accounts of the Tallis Fantasia and Lark Ascending), anything with Vernon Handley and the Liverpool Phil, Ricardo Chailly's Mahler symphonies.. I'm a particular fan of Goldsmith's recordings of The Sand Pebbles and Patton with the Royal Scottish National as well - but the huge dynamics are often met with distain by film score fans.

[Btw, could anyone recommend me a good 'Rite'?]

dooj17
07-23-2009, 05:50 PM
This topic about dynamics reminds of when I recently pulled out some of my old LPs. I was so used to a more limited dynamic range from recent CDs that when a sudden crescendo hit I actually got scared that I'd blow my speakers. But then when I turned down the volume to a comfortable level it seemed "too quiet".

This discussion is the polar opposite of another discussion on the FSM board where somebody recommended running older recordings thru a tube compressor to get a "bigger sound" :) - supporting your ending comment Lens....

What might be cool in the future is that we will get music in a form in which we can set dynamics and reverb to our own taste. Maybe the default will be "rock" or "classical" etc...but you could go into the ID tag and change the preference. iTunes now lets you change and save the EQ settings as well as starting and ending points which is a step in that direction. To make compression and reverb optional would be much more drastic of course, requiring a major industry rethink as to how music is distributed. But who knows. Actually I think I've seen a "karaoke" option on some players as well.

dooj17
07-23-2009, 05:53 PM
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Dharma
07-23-2009, 10:25 PM
Dharma: What genre are you working in? Was it a studio session? Did you win in the end?

I write concert and film music but have yet to enjoy the pleasure of working with live musicians - so I have these battles to look forward to... :/

I write concert works. For orchestra and concert band. I'd like to do film but I know I wouldn't be able to stay on schedule, heh.

I did win in the end because this time the recording costs were coming out of my pocket. And they can be some tough and rather trying battles, when people think they know your music better than you do. :)

Lens of Truth
07-24-2009, 12:50 AM
I was so used to a more limited dynamic range from recent CDs that when a sudden crescendo hit I actually got scared that I'd blow my speakers.

A great cd for this is Pletnev's first recording of Tchaikovsky's Pathetique Symphony. The sudden explosion at the start of the first movement development nearly gives me a heart attack every time, even though I know it's coming!! And I wouldn't have it any other way :)


What might be cool in the future is that we will get music in a form in which we can set dynamics and reverb to our own taste. Maybe the default will be "rock" or "classical" etc...but you could go into the ID tag and change the preference.

Interesting, I wouldn't be surprised. It'd be a totally useless feature for me. Anyway, I'm sure there's already software out there that lets you boost the quiet bits etc.


This is my fav version of Rite (on video at least) and added immeasurably to my appreciation of the piece:

Thanks for the recommendation. I'm totally out of the loop when it comes to classical dvds for some reason. Bit big for a download though! Does it let you access the score while listening/watching?

tangotreats
07-24-2009, 02:03 AM
What might be cool in the future is that we will get music in a form in which we can set dynamics and reverb to our own taste. Maybe the default will be "rock" or "classical" etc...but you could go into the ID tag and change the preference. iTunes now lets you change and save the EQ settings as well as starting and ending points which is a step in that direction. To make compression and reverb optional would be much more drastic of course, requiring a major industry rethink as to how music is distributed. But who knows. Actually I think I've seen a "karaoke" option on some players as well.

With utmost respect, that would be one of the biggest disasters to befall recorded music. Reverb is nonsense. If your recording was competently made in the first place then you already have all the reverb you need. It is useful for one reason: Restoration / remastering of bad recordings that you can't remake.

Ditto EQ. Basically useless as far as lifelike reproduction is concerned.

Reverb and EQ - used by the ignorant to get a "better" sound.

Dharma: Fascinating! I'm self-funding a recording session in Brno next year. Would be really interested to hear about your experiences!

dooj17
07-24-2009, 02:55 AM
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm totally out of the loop when it comes to classical dvds for some reason. Bit big for a download though! Does it let you access the score while listening/watching?

Actually if you go to the website it does have something like that where Michael walks you thru the score. I can't remember how detailed it got, I think I eventually just obtained the full score in pdf form just so I could analyze it at my leisure. But no, the dvd doesn't have a scrolling score feature, tho that'd be cool.

It's a big download, yeah. I got it thru a demonoid torrent, took a couple days...but it's pretty great, documentary about Igor, the piece, then Michael takes apart the piece with a live orchestra demonstrating different effects....(also the sound is in 5.1 and is thundering).

dooj17
07-24-2009, 03:25 AM
Reverb and EQ - used by the ignorant to get a "better" sound.


I think you misunderstood my intent :). I actually meant that an option to REMOVE any artificial reverb or EQ would be a cool thing to have.
For example, Stu Phillips' Battlestar Galactica came out in 2 versions: the 25th Anniversary "domestic" edition (with composer-approved added reverb and some kind of "exciter effect" and compression) and the German 1993 CD which is very natural sounding and raw. I think it would be cool to have 1 CD where you get the German "raw" master, but then you could have the "Stu Phillips remaster setting" as an option if you so preferred. In fact there are several later Goldsmith recordings in which he uses far more reverb (or the hall is bigger) than his recordings from the '70s, and I guess I'd prefer an option to hear a "70's mix". Do I want to sit in the nosebleed seats or in the front row, that kind of thing?

Putting aside reverb and EQ tho, recently Guitar Hero game tracks have surfaced on torrent sites. I mean INDIVIDUAL instrument tracks of classic rock songs from the likes of Rush and The Who, etc... Because of this, some ambitious people have been able to take these tracks and been able to remix entire albums into 5.1 surround DVDAs. As a musician/composer, it's been a real revelation to hear raw, unaccompanied guitar and drum tracks from these artists. Now if music in the future (tho possibly not orchestral music) could have the plasticity of having a consumer be able to remix music to their own preference (but still have a default "compose-approved" mix) I would be quite happy! In fact I guarantee there would be a market for something like that.

Sirusjr
07-24-2009, 03:34 AM
I entirely agree dooj17. I have a few classical dvds such as one bach organ dvd with Toccata and Fugue in D minor and other classics and listening to it in 5.1 surround is absolutely wonderful. The same thing you mention was released with the latest Dream Theater album (with the ultimate collector's edition) so that fans have made various mixes of the album. It is really nice indeed.
EDIT: Also my Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra version of Tchaikovsky 1812 overture on DTS surround is sublime! Cannon fire and all!

arthierr
07-24-2009, 11:49 AM
With utmost respect, that would be one of the biggest disasters to befall recorded music. Reverb is nonsense. If your recording was competently made in the first place then you already have all the reverb you need. It is useful for one reason: Restoration / remastering of bad recordings that you can't remake.

Ditto EQ. Basically useless as far as lifelike reproduction is concerned.

Reverb and EQ - used by the ignorant to get a "better" sound.


You're too sanctimonious here, my friend.

Some old or badly done recordings are really not easy to listen, so when you apply reverb and EQ, and you do it correctly, knowing what you do, the result can be really whorth it.

One precise example: the Ogre Battle Symphonic Suite I posted some months ago had 2 notable problems 1) an orchestra too small recorded in a tiny hall = lack of reverb, 2) like often in old recordings, the mid-range frequencies were way too high, producing an aggressive and un-natural sound.

1) can be easily fixed by applying a good reverb (not a shitty, amateurish one - I've tried dozens of reverb tools), and 2) can be fixd by any common EQ changer, like the one in Winamp, to diminish the excessive frequencies (in this case, I lowered the 3 kHz range by 2 dB).


Concerning the compression topic, there are many Winamp plugins doing that, but I'm mostly disappointed by them, because the orchestral music doesn't sound natural: when a powerful cue is meant to come, what you have instead is a weak, muffled sound, thus removing the original dynamics, the sense of lightness and power the composer intended to express.

tangotreats
07-24-2009, 12:01 PM
You're too sanctimonious here, my friend.

Thanks for that.


Some old or badly done recordings are really not easy to listen, so when you apply reverb and EQ, and you do it correctly, knowing what you do, the result can be really whorth it. One precise example: the Ogre Battle Symphonic Suite I posted some months ago had 2 notable problems 1) an orchestra too small recorded in a tiny hall = lack of reverb, 2) like often in old recordings, the mid-range frequencies were way too high, producing an aggressive and un-natural sound...

Isn't that EXACTLY what I just said? Allow me to quote myself in the relevant sections:


If your recording was competently made in the first place then you already have all the reverb you need. It is useful for... Restoration / remastering of bad recordings that you can't remake.

That said, surely it's obvious that when I refer to reverb and EQ being used by the ignorant, I am clearly referring to people taking very good recordings and doing dumb things to them (like a former friend of mine who re-EQ'd all his CDs to boost the bass by ridiculous amounts - so that his car vibrated more and he could piss off other motorists with his music.

Again - if a recording is a good one, and has been made by a competent engineer at an appropriate venue - then equalisation is not necessary and neither is artificial reverb.


Concerning the compression topic, there are many Winamp plugins doing that, but I'm mostly disappointed by them, because the orchestral music doesn't sound natural: when a powerful cue is meant to come, what you have instead is a weak, muffled sound, thus removing the original dynamics, the sense of lightness and power the composer intended to express.

Some are better than others but you can't just "apply" a plugin to any piece of music and expect a good result - for a compressor to work properly it requires tuning and precise configuration as appropriate to the music in question. Otherwise, as you say, it will end up sounding bloody awful.

arthierr
07-24-2009, 12:08 PM
Right, I certainly listened to some albums where the bass were ridiculously high, and where the reverb was so excessively wet that you could almost swim in it (and get drown...)!

Glad to see you didn't mean every people though. ;)

Lens of Truth
07-24-2009, 08:48 PM
I think people are coming at this from different angles. No one in support of artificial, post facto twiddles has offered an example of where this would be useful (or even appropriate) in a modern classical recording. This is the classical thread after all, and in that context I think danny is totally justified to take such strong exception. Talking about a 'mix' or 're-mix' in classical music has much more disturbing connotations than in genres born into the recording industry and popular culture - including film music.

tangotreats
07-24-2009, 09:04 PM
Lens: Who are you?! People don't agree with me... This is all very strange!

Sirusjr
07-24-2009, 09:11 PM
Danny - As far as mixing and stuff I agree that usually it is not worth doing. If I do anything to alter my albums, I apply replay-gain on the album to attempt to equalize the track volume somewhat so the album has a uniform volume to some extent.
I also find various equalizer settings are nice because you can hear different instruments more pronounced in other settings then you might on just a flat equalizer. If you listen to the same album over and over, it helps you gain a better appreciation for the quality of each instrument used and not just the ones the sound engineer decided to bring to the front and make pronounced through the mixing.
Just as there is music that I find too quiet there are numerous times, especially at live rock shows from smaller bands, that i can barely stand the music because the group decided that they want the bass guitar to be loud and i can't hear the vocals. Rock, metal and pop to me are occasionally about the instrumentation but most importantly about the quality of the singer and their beautiful tones. When you can't hear the singing above the rest of the album it is a terrible shame.

Lens of Truth
07-24-2009, 09:12 PM
Lens: Who are you?! People don't agree with me... This is all very strange!

?? For some reason when I read that I went cold! Kinda like at the airport when they ask if you're carrying any wmds and you feel irrationally guilty..



No, I knew you'd twig eventually.

I'm your long lost clone!!! *sobs*

dooj17
07-24-2009, 09:23 PM
I think people are coming at this from different angles...Talking about a 'mix' or 're-mix' in classical music has much more disturbing connotations than in genres born into the recording industry and popular culture - including film music.

I'm pretty big into interactivity with my music (as well as being a semi-professional sound mixer) so I guess my angle would be different than a purist's - so guilty on that one :).

But what if you had the power to say to John Williams to mute those synth tracks and push up those live choral tracks (referring to a hypothetical situation related to the Holst Planets recording, if such tracks existed)? This all goes back to my attempt to "speed up" the Herrmann Jason suite. If it were possible to artificially bring those tracks up to "film" speed (and not destroy the integrity of the recording itself) - yep, that's the version I would be playing in my iPod now. I don't think any of these options would be damaging in any way because these would just be additional choices. The consumer would still have the "composer-approved, critically-acclaimed" version of the mix as well...

dooj17
07-24-2009, 09:30 PM
Just as there is music that I find too quiet there are numerous times, especially at live rock shows from smaller bands, that i can barely stand the music because the group decided that they want the bass guitar to be loud and i can't hear the vocals. Rock, metal and pop to me are occasionally about the instrumentation but most importantly about the quality of the singer and their beautiful tones. When you can't hear the singing above the rest of the album it is a terrible shame.

Good Lord, I am with you there, Siriusjr! Actually I have remastered a few bootleg soundboards and you can't imagine the gyrations I've had to go thru to tease out the vocals or guitar sometimes. I guess this is kind of off-topic since this is more about orchestral music...nonetheless I still stand by my "seating row" option as something that would be desirable....I'll take front row please:)

tangotreats
07-24-2009, 09:34 PM
I'm pretty big into interactivity with my music (as well as being a semi-professional sound mixer) so I guess my angle would be different than a purist's - so guilty on that one :).

But what if you had the power to say to John Williams to mute those synth tracks and push up those live choral tracks (referring to a hypothetical situation related to the Holst Planets recording, if such tracks existed)?

First of all, as a sound mixer, your angle should be more the purist than all of us put together - your job is to capture reality on tape, disc, or whatever. Stop thinking about the technology (it is, after all, merely a means to an end) and instead think about that most beautiful, romantic concept - humans making music together, speaking to one-another through the one, completely universal, limitless language that unites us all.

Well, it's a moot point because I won't be listening to that album again, full stop - there are far, far better interpretations of The Planets out there, and as far as I know, all of them but this one actually use an orchestra, choir, and organ - as dictated in Holst's score. ;)


This all goes back to my attempt to "speed up" the Herrmann Jason suite. If it were possible to artificially bring those tracks up to "film" speed (and not destroy the integrity of the recording itself) - yep, that's the version I would be playing in my iPod now. I don't think any of these options would be damaging in any way because these would just be additional choices. The consumer would still have the "composer-approved, critically-acclaimed" version of the mix as well...

You do realise that if Herrmann were alive and he read that, he would stop whatever he was doing, come and find you, and beat you repeatedly with a rolled up copy of the score whilst yelling "YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!!!" - then he'd set fire to your house. ;)

There are two problems with that. "Artificially" anything is bad news. Herrmann made a recording that you don't like - and I don't like it either. So I don't listen to it. I don't try to f**k around with it digitally so it sounds like I think it should sound - because to do so would be an affront to his artistry. I don't like it, I think it was a mistake, but I respect Herrmann and his right to do what he thought was best with his music. I definitely don't play back great music at chipmunk speed to make it sound more exciting.

Sirusjr
07-24-2009, 09:50 PM
You do realise that if Herrmann were alive and he read that, he would stop whatever he was doing, come and find you, and beat you repeatedly with a rolled up copy of the score whilst yelling "YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!!!" - then he'd set fire to your house. ;)

That would make an awesome movie! I would LOVE to see that. Maybe he can take a few zimmer lovers down with him.

dooj17
07-24-2009, 09:54 PM
I have to say I'm enjoying this topic. Everybody has some great points, that's for sure. But...


First of all, as a sound mixer, your angle should be more the purist than all of us put together - your job is to capture reality on tape, disc, or whatever. Stop thinking about the technology (it is, after all, merely a means to an end) and instead think about that most beautiful, romantic concept - humans making music together, speaking to one-another through the one, completely universal, limitless language that unites us all.

The difference in opinion here really goes down to what each person believes is the best way to represent music in it's purist form. Technology definitely helps to achieve that end. To say "stop thinking about the technology" is kind of throwing the baby out with the bath water. A trumpet is technology. Admittedly I have no experience with orchestral music so I may blowing smoke to some degree but if technology can bring the consumer additional listening options then I'm all for it. Did I mention before that we would all be getting versions of the piece in it's rawest, most "wooden" form? I keep feeling that that part is not stressed enough.


You do realise that if Herrmann were alive and he read that, he would stop whatever he was doing, come and find you, and beat you repeatedly with a rolled up copy of the score whilst yelling "YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!!!" - then he'd set fire to your house. ;)

There are two problems with that. "Artificially" anything is bad news. Herrmann made a recording that you don't like - and I don't like it either. So I don't listen to it. I don't try to f**k around with it digitally so it sounds like I think it should sound - because to do so would be an affront to his artistry. I don't like it, I think it was a mistake, but I respect Herrmann and his right to do what he thought was best with his music. I definitely don't play back great music at chipmunk speed to make it sound more exciting.

I see that is being no different than Elmer Bernstein conducting a Herrmann piece at a different tempo. In fact Herrmann himself was told to sit down and shut up at the Gerhardt recording sessions of his own pieces. Herrmann was also a great supporter of different interpretations of his music so you may be wrong about the burning of the house part. He would probably still beat me tho. But then a half hour later he would buy me a drink :). And then never speak to me again...

dooj17
07-24-2009, 09:57 PM
That would make an awesome movie! I would LOVE to see that. Maybe he can take a few zimmer lovers down with him.
Aack! Did you just associate me with Zimmer lovers !!?? Oooohhhh...

Lens of Truth
07-24-2009, 10:03 PM
This all goes back to my attempt to "speed up" the Herrmann Jason suite. If it were possible to artificially bring those tracks up to "film" speed (and not destroy the integrity of the recording itself) - yep, that's the version I would be playing in my iPod now.

Incidentally, don't you like Bruce Broughton's recording? I think he nails it. And in this case the full score is essential!! :)

tangotreats
07-24-2009, 10:08 PM
The difference in opinion here really goes down to what each person believes is the best way to represent music in it's purist form. Technology definitely helps to achieve that end. To say "stop thinking about the technology" is kind of throwing the baby out with the bath water. A trumpet is technology.

When I say "technology" I am not referring to the music, the musicians, nor the tools with which they actually make the music. I'm referring to the means by which the music is committed to whatever recording medium you're working with.

Recording technology is at a simply stunning level of maturity. Used correctly, allows a good engineer to capture reality. But surely the utopian situation with recording technology is to perfect it to the extent where you are just hearing music.


Admittedly I have no experience with orchestral music so I may blowing smoke to some degree but if technology can bring the consumer additional listening options then I'm all for it.

I'm probably blowing orchestral-bias smoke as well, although I think that a lot of what I say is true of all kinds of music. There is a great deal more "production" in other genres however - some of which is a direct result of the technology. Some of what makes the music what it is... is explicitly engineered. The Beatles, for instance - all sorts of studio tricks - backwards tape, looping, phasing, overdubbing - you name it.

But they were using the technology to make music.

That's different to what I'm talking about - using technology to distort existing music. :)


Did I mention before that we would all be getting versions of the piece in it's rawest, most "wooden" form? I keep feeling that that part is not stressed enough.

Good music is never wooden. If it's a crappy performance, or a lifeless recording, it may be wooden - but that's not the fault of the music. A good recording of a good performance of good music is the ideal.


I see that is being no different than Elmer Bernstein conducting a Herrmann piece at a different tempo. In fact Herrmann himself was told to sit down and shut up at the Gerhardt recording sessions of his own pieces.

Haha! I'd have enjoyed watching him sitting in the chair, fuming... ;)

However - that was Gerhardt's recording. He makes the rules. Obviously as Herrmann was the composer, his thoughts should be considered - but ultimately there's that subtle difference between Gerhardt's and Herrmann's interpretations simply differing - and the possibility that one interpretation may be just plain bad.

I think Herrmann's Argonauts was bad. Doesn't mean I'm going to start messing around with it in Adobe Audition though. ;)


Herrmann was also a great supporter of different interpretations of his music so you may be wrong about the burning of the house part. He would probably still beat me tho. But then a half hour later he would buy me a drink :). And then never speak to me again...

That sounds a lot more like Herrmann - changeable, fierce, steadfast, and stubborn as a mule. I can't imagine him being too pleased at somebody saying "I think you conducted this piece too slowly, so I played your records really fast to make it sound better"...

What would I give for a chance to have met the man... :)

Sirusjr
07-24-2009, 11:08 PM
Ok guys, I got two albums for you that I just bought today on a whim because I found them in the $3 clearance section at my local used cd shop that sells lots of CDS from Japan. These two I bought because they are accompanied by orchestra and while one is celtic I thought this is the best place to post it anyway.


Karl Jenkins - Adiemus_IV_The_Eternal_Knot
|MP3|VBR256|128MB|Ripped from Original CD|
|Celtic/Orchestral/Female Vocals|


http://rapidshare.com/files/259662799/Adiemus_IV_The_Eternal_Knot.rar
PSW: smile
http://www.amazon.com/Adiemus-IV-Eternal-Karl-Jenkins/dp/B00004WC6I


Angels_will_Seek_you_From_Heaven_-_Coba_with_Orchestra
|MP3|VBR256|96mb|Ripped from original CD|
|Orchestral/Accordion|


http://rapidshare.com/files/259651019/Angels_will_Seek_you_From_Heaven_-_Coba_with_Orchestra.rar
PSW: smile
I couldn't find any information about this one online so I had to scan the cover myself. Fantastic album though :3

dooj17
07-25-2009, 12:32 AM
What! Someone sharing music? On a sharing thread? Craazy, man!

Just my last 2 cents - Lens: the Debney Jason recording rocks, yeah. Some clunky moments and some odd tempo fluctuations (which I fixed (JOKE!)) but o/w a fun listen.

Danny: "wooden" - sorry I didn't mean "wooden" in the classical negative sense - ie - "stiff", I was just trying to impart the sense of a "natural" sound, w/o digital processing...just instruments and a good room with a "wooden" floor.

Lens of Truth
07-25-2009, 01:41 AM

BERLIOZ - HAROLD IN ITALY, TRISTIA
Orchestre R�volutionnaire et Romantique conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner
MP3-V0 / 98MB / 7 tracks / 59:32
http://rapidshare.com/files/259702741/Berlioz_-_Harold_in_Italy.rar

Harold in Italy
Symphony with viola solo
1. I. Harold aux montagnes
2. II. Marche des p�lerins
3. III. S�r�nade d'un montagnard des Abruzzes
4. IV. Orgie des brigands
Tristia
5. I. M�ditation religieuse
6. II. La mort d'Oph�lie (Ballade)
7. III. Marche fun�bre pour la derni�re sc�ne d'Hamlet

Two Belioz masterpieces for you! Harold in Italy features another of those recurring themes of his; this one’s absolutely beautiful, almost like a lullaby, introduced by the solo viola at 3:25. Some edge of the seat rhythmic stuff in the orgiastic final movement – THIS is how to write action music!!

For incredible dynamic contrasts that will knock you out of your chair listen to the Funeral March piece that ends the Tristia triptych. It’s beyond epic!! The ghostly murmur of the choir at the end is stunning. Who needs tube compressors? :)

I felt a bit ambitious so I included a few scans. There are some concise notes and a pic of Gardiner looking rather distinguished (a friend of mine interviewed him a few years back and apparently he’s a supercilious so and so. But I say he’s allowed to be!).

Sirusjr
07-25-2009, 01:43 AM
Thanks lens! I will check it out :3 I have not heard of Berlioz before.

Lens of Truth
07-25-2009, 01:53 AM
The Symphonie Fantastique is a good place to begin with Berlioz. I posted it a few pages back.
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1277225&postcount=469

That accordian+orchestra disc you posted looks very curious. I'll give it a listen :)

Sirusjr
07-25-2009, 01:55 AM
I will check that out next. I had to post these here because I don't think any of my friends would appreciate these albums and I have to share them because they are so interesting.

Lens of Truth
07-25-2009, 02:06 AM
I'm not a massive fan of Karl Jenkins, truth be told. Went to a concert of his here in Liverpool a while ago (a friend was singing with the Welsh Choral). He has some great melodic ideas but then just repeats them over and over. It didn't help that his music was completely upstaged by Handel's evergreen 'Zadok the Priest' and a Bach organ concerto of all things (you never hear Bach in the concert hall anymore).

I did used to enjoy that tune from Adiemus that was used as the title piece for the 'Testament' Bible animations. But I had no idea he'd done 4! Maybe I should cautiously dip my toe into that one too.

Edit: Sirus - this Coba cd is the strangest concoction. There's everything from klezmer to James Bond (or is it the temple theme from Zelda II? ;)). Fun listen!

Grunthor
07-25-2009, 09:11 PM
Thanks for Karl Jenkins - Adiemus IV The Eternal Knot and Angels will Seek you From Heaven :):):):)

Sirusjr
07-26-2009, 02:02 AM
Busoni Piano Concerto Op. 39
|MP3|VBR256|113MB|Ripped from Original Disc|


http://rapidshare.com/files/260064300/Busoni_Piano_Concerto_Op.39.rar
PSW: smile
This is a fantastic concerto that I stumbled upon when looking for a filler to get me free shipping on Amazon. It is a wonderful little piece that everyone can enjoy. Because of the cheap price, I suggest those who love it to purchase it for their collection and if you want lossless.
http://www.amazon.com/Busoni-Piano-Concerto-Op-39/dp/B000MGTFFI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1248570131&sr=8-1

tangotreats
07-26-2009, 10:40 PM
"LITTLE"? ;)

I think I shall upload some Scriabin tomorrow. ;)

Thanks for that Sirusjr - I'm very familiar with the piece but not with this performance. Ogdon was one of the best. Really looking forward to playing this one.

dooj17
07-27-2009, 06:20 AM
A little bit embarrassed to post this one amidst all more hardcore classics here, but this disc was a pretty good introduction for me to some classic pieces back in the day. For this one put away he cabernet and start up the popcorn :).

Extreme Classics (RCA Victor)


"Amazon.com:
With so many compilation CDs billing themselves as being perfect for "romantic moments" or "young minds," it's refreshing to find a CD that attempts to do nothing but get your blood pumping. And Extreme Classics does just that; there's not a single Bach excerpt, and even Vivaldi's summer storm from The Four Seasons couldn't make the cut. Instead, we get snippets of Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" (from Die Walkure), the conclusion of Ravel's Bolero, as well as the finale of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture. The "extreme" moniker might be a bit misleading (save that for Stockhausen!), but these are great cuts that will have your heart racing. The recordings by included conductors Leonard Slatkin, Fritz Reiner, and Eugene Ormandy are all classics. Crank it up and watch the neighbors complain! --Jason Verlinde"

I have lots of Stockhausen, too if you want extreme - "Mikrophonie I" anyone?


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7AORT9RC

1. Die Walk?re: Ride of the Valkyries - The Philadelphia Orchestra
2. A Sea Symphony: Behold, The Sea Itself - Philharmonia Chorus
3. Symphony No. 6 'Pastoral': Thunderstorm - Fritz Reiner
4. Grand Canyon Suite: Cloudburst - Eugene Ormandy
5. Requiem: Dies irae (Excerpt) - Chicago Symphony Chorus
6. The Rite Of Spring: Sacrificial Dance - Chicago Symphony Orchestra
7. Romeo And Juliet: Montagues and Capulets (Excerpt) - Philharmonia Orchestra
8. El Amor Brujo: Ritual Fire Dance - Boston Pops Orchestra
9. Bolero: Conclusion - Charles Munch
10. Gayne: Sabre Dance - Boston Pops Orchestra
11. Carmina Burana: O Fortuna - London Symphony Chorus
12. Pictures At An Exhibition: The Great Gate at Kiev - The Philadelphia Orchestra
13. Il Trovatore: Anvil Chorus - Rome Opera Chorus
14. Ein Heldenleben: Battle Scene - Fritz Reiner
15. 1812 Overture: Finale - Fritz Reiner

Sirusjr
07-27-2009, 06:24 AM
Wow...that cover is so bad :loldata: Makes me scared to download. Somebody will have to back up your recommendation before I take the plunge.

dooj17
07-27-2009, 06:42 AM
Wow...that cover is so bad Makes me scared to download. Somebody will have to back up your recommendation before I take the plunge.

Yeah, the cover is so bad it's not even funny, no argument there...

arthierr
07-27-2009, 07:56 AM
Wow...that cover is so bad :loldata: Makes me scared to download. Somebody will have to back up your recommendation before I take the plunge.

You did see the (dreadful) cover, but did you see the tracklist? This is pure gold, go for it!

Thanks a lot, Dooj.

tangotreats
07-27-2009, 08:35 AM
Crappy cover (woah, it's EXTREME because there's a guy on a SKATEBOARD!!! To the MAXXXXXXXXXXX!!!) but a great selection!

As for feeling bad... don't - we don't have to drown in hardcore repertoire all the time - it's nice to just have some fun once in a while. And if you're feeling miserable or listless, nobody can deny that this is the way to get yourself moving again.

Ta :)

Lens of Truth
07-27-2009, 08:40 AM
Sirus - some good tracks there definitely. Compilation warhorses and a few more surprising choices like the Sea Symphony and Grand Canyon Suite (I can post the whole of this gorgeous piece if anyone would like). Thank you for the Busoni concerto too!

dooj - Stockhausen would be very welcome! I've never got into him at all and I don't think any has appeared thus far in the thread.

danny - how was The Planets with Charlie Mac?? I caught a bit of Jupiter on the box before going out and I thought the big tune was very stately and powerful. Surely Sir Charles had something to offer in Saturn..?

tangotreats
07-27-2009, 01:08 PM
Sadly, I found it really underwhelming - the applause in the hall was deafening and there was even a stamping ovation during which Mackerras was called back to the stage five times. He's in stunning shape for a man of 85 - his conducting is a litle less energetic than I've seen, and he occasionally perched on a small chair on the podium during quieter moments - but he never flinched. A truly amazing man.

Unfortunately, the performance sent me to sleep. I quite enjoyed the Elgar (one of my favourite pieces of classical music, full stop) although I found the Delius quite lifeless and awfully dull. Even Clive Anderson and his guests weren't enjoying it. I was in the box three to the right of the TV box and they were sitting there fidgiting about, talking to each other, looking bored, etc. And every five minutes, a makeup lady could sweep in and polish Clive Anderson's (epic) forehead. Most exciting.

So, to The Planets. A technically adept, highly professional, very tight performance. I think any broadcaster would be proud to have an orchestra that good - and of course, the Philharmonic is only second in command. The BBC's five orchestras always were, and remain, absolutely stunning - one of the few British institutions we can still be truly proud of.

But the whole thing left me feeling strangely emotionless. It was quite a robotic performance - it just happened and then it stopped. Venus thankfully avoided modern conductors' attempts to play the thing like a passionate love scene. Mackerras shaped it very smooth and very broad - I don't think Venus works when you pour on too much schmaltz, but Mackerras kept it just the right side of restrained.

Mercury sounded like one of his wings were broken - a bit sluggish for my tastes, and the woodwinds dancing around sounded again very mechanical. There was no shape - the notes were just played.

Jupiter was solid enough but the middle section failed to grab me entirely - it was more like "I will sorta-try but no promises or anything to thee my Country" - strangely non-committal to my ears.

Saturn was the biggest disaster of the night, unfortunately. I've never heard so much vibrato in ALL MY LIFE - even in the alternating woodwind chords at the beginning, it was just too much. I always thought Saturn should be cold, detatched, and vaguely other-worldly. It is, after all, a final gasp before death. But no, it was played like a late romantic tone poem. Didn't like it, not at all.

Uranus - not too bad; brass was very impressive but nothing standout. Just a playthrough, not really a performance.

Neptune - nice touch to plonk the BBC Singers upstairs in the Gallery - it truly sounded as if their voices were pouring down from the sky. Unfortunately the overall performance was again somewhat drab, and the finale, with the choir alternating between chords and gradually fading into nothingness... was too fast, the singers faltered, and I think the tempo was flaky too. Mackerras didn't conduct the choir - there was a separate conductor in the Gallery so I don't know if they're to blame...

So, there you go - the only time I heard louder applause was during the MASSIVELY WELL DESERVED standing ovation at the Philharmonia's Gurrelieder earlier this year - the audience obviously loved it, but it didn't really resonate with me at all. Oh well - you win some, you loose some.

I'll upload the concert this evening.

dooj17
07-27-2009, 02:57 PM
Sirus - some good tracks there definitely. Compilation warhorses and a few more surprising choices like the Sea Symphony and Grand Canyon Suite (I can post the whole of this gorgeous piece if anyone would like).

Sign me up for the Grand Canyon Suite! when you get the chance, thanks- that was a very nice surprise since it hasn't been over-used in Looney Tunes or TV commercials.
I'm also looking for this similar-but deeper comp:
http://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=4880

Stockhausen was my favorite composer for about 15 years and now I kind of regret being sucked into his world because it pushed away all kinds of classical music which I am just now getting into. Do you have any specific request? I will up "Gruppen" for 3 orchestras unless you have another preference. But first I have a Wagner 2CD in my queue...

tangotreats
07-27-2009, 04:11 PM
I'd love to hear some Stockhausen - I know absolutely nothing about the man or his music (other than that is was somewhat avant-garde) and would absolutely welcome anything you could share. :)

dooj17
07-27-2009, 04:56 PM
A while back Sanico posted Wagner's "The Ring Without Words" (Thanks!) and that reminded me that I had this in the backroom...

Wagner: Overtures & Preludes
Richard Wagner (Composer), Adrian Boult (Conductor), London Philharmonic Orchestra (Orchestra), London Symphony Orchestra (Orchestra), New Philharmonia Orchestra (Orchestra)
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/fa/24/3f16923f8da0418a534c9010.L.jpghttp://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/f6/5f/f758b340dca0a89530fb5010.L.jpg


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=99EQLDUT

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JSGZZJA7


I'll up Stockhausen this afternoon. I know you all are very open-minded (no sarcasm here - really) but ol' KS can be extremely...well lets just say some of his music would fall closer to a Godzilla sound effects suite. So I'll first up some stuff which was played at the BBC Proms - ie - orchestral stuff. But later I will probably up something VERY UN-Orchestral just to get some reactions;).

In short, Stockhausen would be the outer-space version of Wagner crossed with Ben Burtt (the sound designer for the Star Wars films). He also wrote 7 operas, 1 for each day of the week, and they involve time-travel, aliens and one piece even has 4 helicopters in it. I actually have the DVD to that one.

tangotreats
07-27-2009, 05:05 PM
Wasn't the Helicopters thing something to do with a String Quartet...?

Sanico
07-27-2009, 06:07 PM
I believe this wasn't posted before in the classical thread.





Concerto for Viola and Orchestra / Stargazers

https://rapidshare.com/files/3627667112/Viola_Concerto_-_Stargazers.zip


Concerto for Viola and Orchestra (2007)
World Premiere Performance

1. Introduction by John Williams (3:20)
2. First Movement (11:16)
3. Second Movement - "The Family Argument" (3:51) *
4. Third Movement (9:19) **

Cathy Basrak, viola
* Timothy Genis, timpani
** Ann Hobson Pilot, harp


Stargazers (1982, rev. 2009)
First Live Performance

5. Introduction by John Williams (1:28)
6. Stargazers (5:31)

Ann Hobson Pilot, harp


More Details (http://www.jw-collection.de/classical/violaconcerto.htm)
-------------

Looking the pic on the cover, isn't Williams a true gent?! sexpot

dooj17
07-27-2009, 07:40 PM
Wasn't the Helicopters thing something to do with a String Quartet...?

The Helicopter String Quartet is part of an opera, I forget which one. In fact he states that every piece he's written from 1975 to 2004 or so is part of one of the 7 operas of Light (Licht). Also all of his operas have "parts" which can (and often are) performed separately. At the Proms concert they "performed" the electronics-only portion of a piece (well the CD player did anyways). Pretty crafty, he can gets 3 performances out of 1 piece.

I'm going to start a Stockhausen thread, I've been meaning to start a Herrmann thread and do a chronological discography, but I just copied a bunch of KS to my HD right now so I guess I'll do him first.

OK Stockhausen thread is here (Thread 67993). I'd like to keep it separate because then otherwise I won't able to shut up.

Lens of Truth
07-27-2009, 09:56 PM
Sorry to hear the concert was a disappointment. I've had that feeling with Mackerras before (both live and on record) of 'just playing the notes'. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Saturn is absolutely crucial - I'm not sure why, but it seems like the heart of the piece to me - and sadly it's often misjudged.

dooj, you will have to be the guiding hand when it comes to Stockhausen. One of the problems I've had is that I just don't know where to begin!

And thank you for the Wagner. It's always a pleasure to hear new performances of his overtures. Grand Canyon Suite will be up in a day or two :)

stardragon978
07-30-2009, 02:04 AM
I'm looking for some good harp music, can anyone point in the best direction?
Who's the best composer to look for on this particular instrument?
Many thanks for the music that has been posted with the harp so far.

tangotreats
07-30-2009, 02:30 AM
Are you looking for solo harp pieces only, or are you also interested in other music which features the harp heavily in addition to other instruments or a full orchestra? :)

stardragon978
07-30-2009, 02:45 AM
A little bit of both actually.

Sanico
07-30-2009, 02:52 AM
I'm looking for a specific Gustav Mahler work known as "Das Lied von der Erde"...
I've read that this was the piece that Kurosawa asked Toru Takemitsu to based his music when composing for Ran.
Here's Ran trailer with Takemitsu original music where ,I suppose, it's based from that Mahler-inspired work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfUIxYWrVGE

Doublehex
07-30-2009, 03:22 AM
I'm looking for a specific Gustav Mahler work known as "Das Lied von der Erde"...
I've read that this was the piece that Kurosawa asked Toru Takemitsu to based his music when composing for Ran.
Here's Ran trailer with Takemitsu original music where ,I suppose, it's based from that Mahler-inspired work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfUIxYWrVGE

Since I am currently in love with Ran, I must say - this is very relevant to my interests.

1337
07-30-2009, 08:04 AM
Mahler's Song of the Earth conducted by Jascha horenstein


http://rapidshare.com/files/185471594/MDLVDE-BBCNSOJH.7z

Posted at "when-the-musics-over.blogspot.com/"

Tsobanian
07-30-2009, 08:07 AM
Helllo guys and gals.
I am looking for "BACH: GREAT ORCHESTRAL TRANSCRIPTIONS" from BIDDULPH Records.
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2001/jan01/Bach_Transcriptions.htm

Thanks in advance!

Sanico
07-30-2009, 05:13 PM
Mahler's Song of the Earth conducted by Jascha horenstein


http://rapidshare.com/files/185471594/MDLVDE-BBCNSOJH.7z

Posted at "when-the-musics-over.blogspot.com/"

Thank you, one thousand three hundred and thirty-seven...!


I also found by google a site with a different perfomance of this Mahler work, but in flac format for someone interested.
Google is really an amazing thing. I not only found another version but also a new site that I never seen before.

Downloads
http://rapidshare.com/files/255607864/Lappy_GMDE1959.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/255630971/Lappy_GMDE1959.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/255642586/Lappy_GMDE1959.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/255642588/Lappy_GMDE1959.part4.rar
Password: lappy

Found at:
avaxhome.ws/music/classical/lappy_daslied.html

Sanico
07-31-2009, 12:30 AM
By the way the music piece from this Mahler work, that serve as inspiration for Ran is "V. Der Abschied (The farewell)".
It's only a few notes actually, and is quite different in tone than Ran which is much more dramatic. And Takemitsu was a enough talented composer to create something original of his own, rather then copy/paste jobs from other works.

tangotreats
07-31-2009, 10:30 PM
When I'm sick, I tend to do annoyingly complicated things to distract me from how terrible I feel. You lucky people - the result of today's efforts is this:



GEORGE GERSHWIN
RHAPSODY IN BLUE




The Paul Whiteman Band
George Gershwin, piano

1927 Recording

This is my own transfer, and extensive remaster, from this British HMV pressing of Gershwin's famous 1927 recording of Rhapsody in Blue. He recorded the piece twice with Whiteman's band - once in 1924 with the old acoustic process, and again three years later in this electric recording.

I rescued this 82 year-old record from a dusty car boot sale when I was 11. The guy selling it took pity on me because I was just a kid and let me have it for 10p. I didn't like to tell him that he had just given me a piece of musical history! I said thank you and ran off, clutching this wonderful record in my hands.

At the time, I only had a crummy record player (also from the ubiquitous car boot sale) and although this record sounded awfully good for its vintage, it never really shone. It went into a box in my wardrobe... and came out this afternoon. About five years ago I was going into business with a friend from work as a startup media company, so I had a brand new turntable custom built, and commissioned a diamond-grinding company to make me three needles. (Incidentally, SOMEBODY ELSE paid for this! I am a poor man! Just thought I'd add that so you don't think I'm some arrogant rich bastard who can afford such luxuries...!) I won't go on about the long complicated history of record restoration - I'll just say that on older records (over simplifying for the sake of brevity) it is sometimes prudent to play them with a special stylus that has had the tip sawn off - that way, the needle doesn't reach the bottom of the groove (where the damage, dust, mold, and what have you is usually worst) and so you reduce the noise. The venture fell through, and when the man went travelling, I inherited the turntable and the needles, and I went off to do audio restoration and production freelance - and the rest is history...! (Honesty time: I didn't expect the business to work out... I really just wanted the turntable. I had my eyes on it from the beginning. *shame*)

Enjoy this gorgeous performance of Rhapsody in Blue the way it was intended - in its original jazz band arrangement, and with the infectious solo piano of the great Gershwin himself!

http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=bpioixek3s

Sirusjr
07-31-2009, 10:37 PM
Wonderful story Danny! I shall check this out forthwith!!
Also I am torn between whether I should tell you to get better soon or wish you continued sickness so we can get more awesome music but I think i'll go for the former.

Doublehex
07-31-2009, 11:05 PM
Wonderful story Danny! I shall check this out forthwith!!
Also I am torn between whether I should tell you to get better soon or wish you continued sickness so we can get more awesome music but I think i'll go for the former.

Screw that! Go for the latter! Danny get sick more!

:D

I kid. Get well soon Danny!

arthurgolden
07-31-2009, 11:32 PM
Wow. Thank you Danny!

dooj17
08-01-2009, 03:09 AM
When I'm sick, I tend to do annoyingly complicated things to distract me from how terrible I feel. You lucky people - the result of today's efforts is this:

GEORGE GERSHWIN
RHAPSODY IN BLUE


Wow - this is great, thanks. Funny, just yesterday I was listening to the 1971 Andre Previn version and it's almost twice as long. I guess the symphonic arrangement adds a few bars...

tangotreats
08-01-2009, 03:12 AM
Nah, they just only recorded half of it so it would fit neatly onto two sides of a record. Pity the middle bits are missing.
Still a fascinating recording though. :D

FulciLives
08-01-2009, 07:52 PM
EMPTY

Lucidolph
08-04-2009, 10:36 PM
IN fourteen minutes, you will be satisfied. ;)

[Edit: Or not... Upload failed. Bollocks to Rapidspread. Trying again.]

Ermm...
Is it still coming? ;D
that butterflie or something xD

Cristobalito2007
08-05-2009, 01:48 PM
Sadly, I found it really underwhelming - the applause in the hall was deafening and there was even a stamping ovation during which Mackerras was called back to the stage five times. He's in stunning shape for a man of 85 - his conducting is a litle less energetic than I've seen, and he occasionally perched on a small chair on the podium during quieter moments - but he never flinched. A truly amazing man.

Unfortunately, the performance sent me to sleep. I quite enjoyed the Elgar (one of my favourite pieces of classical music, full stop) although I found the Delius quite lifeless and awfully dull. Even Clive Anderson and his guests weren't enjoying it. I was in the box three to the right of the TV box and they were sitting there fidgiting about, talking to each other, looking bored, etc. And every five minutes, a makeup lady could sweep in and polish Clive Anderson's (epic) forehead. Most exciting.

So, to The Planets. A technically adept, highly professional, very tight performance. I think any broadcaster would be proud to have an orchestra that good - and of course, the Philharmonic is only second in command. The BBC's five orchestras always were, and remain, absolutely stunning - one of the few British institutions we can still be truly proud of.

But the whole thing left me feeling strangely emotionless. It was quite a robotic performance - it just happened and then it stopped. Venus thankfully avoided modern conductors' attempts to play the thing like a passionate love scene. Mackerras shaped it very smooth and very broad - I don't think Venus works when you pour on too much schmaltz, but Mackerras kept it just the right side of restrained.

Mercury sounded like one of his wings were broken - a bit sluggish for my tastes, and the woodwinds dancing around sounded again very mechanical. There was no shape - the notes were just played.

Jupiter was solid enough but the middle section failed to grab me entirely - it was more like "I will sorta-try but no promises or anything to thee my Country" - strangely non-committal to my ears.

Saturn was the biggest disaster of the night, unfortunately. I've never heard so much vibrato in ALL MY LIFE - even in the alternating woodwind chords at the beginning, it was just too much. I always thought Saturn should be cold, detatched, and vaguely other-worldly. It is, after all, a final gasp before death. But no, it was played like a late romantic tone poem. Didn't like it, not at all.

Uranus - not too bad; brass was very impressive but nothing standout. Just a playthrough, not really a performance.

Neptune - nice touch to plonk the BBC Singers upstairs in the Gallery - it truly sounded as if their voices were pouring down from the sky. Unfortunately the overall performance was again somewhat drab, and the finale, with the choir alternating between chords and gradually fading into nothingness... was too fast, the singers faltered, and I think the tempo was flaky too. Mackerras didn't conduct the choir - there was a separate conductor in the Gallery so I don't know if they're to blame...

So, there you go - the only time I heard louder applause was during the MASSIVELY WELL DESERVED standing ovation at the Philharmonia's Gurrelieder earlier this year - the audience obviously loved it, but it didn't really resonate with me at all. Oh well - you win some, you loose some.

I'll upload the concert this evening.

Sorry to quote all the text above. Was just wondering if anyone could please up load Delius's Song of the High Hills and Elgar's Cockraigne (is that right?) overture pretty please. The Prom's performances were quite flat, but I did enjoy the works originally (esp Delius). Thanks in advance!

compos24
08-06-2009, 06:47 PM
I am looking for John Corigliano's Oboe Concerto - can anyone help me out?

I'd be happy to upload something for you in return, should I have it...

AussieGuy
08-07-2009, 01:07 AM
Did the audio of Janacek's Glagolitic Mass ever get uploaded? I had a brief trawl through this thread yesterday but couldn't find it...

Thanks, folks!

-A.

tangotreats
08-07-2009, 03:34 AM
Me = Swine Flu.
Uploads = Delayed AGAIN. ;)
Me = Sorry.

Will fix tomorrow.

AussieGuy
08-07-2009, 03:56 AM
^ I'm so sorry to hear that you've been sick - let the upload be the least of your worries!

Look after yourself and get better soon.

-A.

1337
08-07-2009, 04:22 AM
Me = Swine Flu.
Uploads = Delayed AGAIN. ;)
Me = Sorry.

Will fix tomorrow.

You have the H1N1 ??

Danny, hope you get well soon and take care of yourself...

AussieGuy
08-07-2009, 04:47 AM
Dumb question - but where can I get help about making uploads myself? (I use linux, but I do have access to some Windows machines.) How do I rip the CD, and do I need a premium account on rapidshare for uploading?

Thanks,
-A.

FulciLives
08-07-2009, 06:47 AM
EMPTY

AussieGuy
08-08-2009, 11:51 AM
^ Thanks for that. I'm in the opposite position - there are too many Linux programs which I use (especially scientific/technical/mathematical) which have no counterpart under Windows! I'll keep looking around for an EAC workaround for Linux; although I could use Wine, which I have installed.

Oh, and as for the Glagolitic Mass, I'm currently quite happily downloading the audio from the youtube clips posted earlier, which I can save as mp3's, and then copy across to my iPod. So all good.

-A.

FulciLives
08-08-2009, 12:50 PM
EMPTY

ohwiseone
08-09-2009, 10:26 PM
Does anyone have and John Adams Stuff,

I have Harmonium, harmolierie, Short ride, Tansfigerations, and chairmen dances. But I'm looking for other stuff,
As well as some good Tchaikovsky symphonies, done by CSO, or any Orchestra with loud brass

ohwiseone
08-09-2009, 10:39 PM
OH and I have A pretty good recording of John Corgilino's Third Symphony "Circus Maxius"

But, he wrote it for Large Wind Ensemble, So its the Texas wind symphony Under Jerry Junkin, As well his his Gazebo Dances (a 4-hands piano piece rearranged for wind ensemble)

So if anyone wants to go jumping into that stuff i can rip it and upload it, just let me know

Dharma
08-09-2009, 11:39 PM
Does anyone have and John Adams Stuff,

I have Harmonium, harmolierie, Short ride, Tansfigerations, and chairmen dances.

Which John Adams? John Luther Adams or John Coolidge Adams?


OH and I have A pretty good recording of John Corgilino's Third Symphony "Circus Maxius"

But, he wrote it for Large Wind Ensemble, So its the Texas wind symphony Under Jerry Junkin, As well his his Gazebo Dances (a 4-hands piano piece rearranged for wind ensemble)

So if anyone wants to go jumping into that stuff i can rip it and upload it, just let me know

Yes, please. Band music is severely underrated and hard to come by. Plus it's the Texas Wind Ensemble, so you can't go wrong.

ohwiseone
08-10-2009, 02:13 AM
Which John Adams? John Luther Adams or John Coolidge Adams?



Yes, please. Band music is severely underrated and hard to come by. Plus it's the Texas Wind Ensemble, so you can't go wrong.

John Collidge Adams

i also have North Texas Wind Symphony Cd if anyone wants that too, ill start the uploads now for the Circus Maximus'

John corigliano "Circus Maximus"
http://rapidshare.com/files/265642232/Archive.zip.html
(It's in just normal mp4, if you want another format let me know, and tell me how to convert it and I shall do it)
P.S. When you first listen to it, it might seem weird but it is suppose to sound like your in a Concert hall, with them all the way around you
IF anyone wants the North Texas CD let me know and I'll upload it

Wakahisa
08-11-2009, 01:41 AM
What about some opera or choral compositions?
Yersterday i was checking this site that talked about 100 OPERA CLASSICS, but i haven't found any of them =(. Does anyone here has those songs?

http://www.abc.net.au/classic/classic100/opera.htm

thanks in advance.

scottsimms
08-13-2009, 03:43 PM
Wonderful shares!
Two requests, if you please:
Bruckner Sym. # 3; Busoni TanzWalzer, conducted by Horenstein on BBC Legends

Bernstein's Mass, conducted by Kristjian Jarvi, on Chandos

Thank you.

dooj17
08-13-2009, 04:48 PM
ohwiseone - thx for the Corigliano Circus Maximus! I'd just heard Symphony #1 for the first time a couple days ago and liked that as well - this is more lighthearted but still great.

ohwiseone
08-14-2009, 03:50 AM
Welcome His 3rd symphony was the frist thing I have ever heard from him, I like his writing style ALOT.

But Does anyone have Any Choral Stuff From Eric Whiticare (Sp?) I recently heard one of his pieces and i would like to hear more, anything would be nice

Dharma
08-14-2009, 05:44 AM
John Collidge Adams

i also have North Texas Wind Symphony Cd if anyone wants that too, ill start the uploads now for the Circus Maximus'

Sorry for the late reply. For John Coolidge Adams I have:

Century Rolls
Dr. Atomic Symphony
Lollapalooza
On the Transmigration of Souls
Shaker Loops
Violin Concerto

I wouldn't mind having that Texas Wind Symphony CD :)


Welcome His 3rd symphony was the frist thing I have ever heard from him, I like his writing style ALOT.

But Does anyone have Any Choral Stuff From Eric Whiticare (Sp?) I recently heard one of his pieces and i would like to hear more, anything would be nice

Of his choral pieces I have:

Cloudburst
I Thank You God For This Most Amazing Day
Little Tree
Lux Auromque
Sleep
Water Night
When David Heard

I fully recommend Cloudburst, Lux Auromque and especially Sleep. As for other Whitacre pieces (some of which has choral sections) I have:

Ghost Train
Godzilla Eats Las Vegas
Lux Auromque (for Brass Ensemble)
October
Only the Beginning
Sleep (for Concert Band)

Also, to both of you, I'm moving the day after tomorrow, so any requests (if there even are any) will have to wait until I'm settled into my new place, sometime next week. Hopefully though someone else can help you out.

area
08-14-2009, 07:52 AM
I have a Request:

Paul B�ttner or Buttner: Symphonies 1-3

Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra

Conductor: Gerhard Pfluger or Pfl�ger.

LP Rip. Please.

ohwiseone
08-14-2009, 02:03 PM
Dhrama, I would like to have Dr.atomic Symphony (been looking for this since forever, Lollapalooza,and Shaker Loops
as for Eric Whitacre, Pretty much everything you've got if its not a big upload, and if you give me till the end of the day today i can get that north Texas one up.

200ft
08-14-2009, 02:38 PM
Chopin works? Anyone?

Sirusjr
08-14-2009, 03:48 PM
Chopin works? Anyone?
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1252741&postcount=378

ohwiseone
08-14-2009, 05:11 PM
okay For those who are interstead or Requested


North Texas Wind Symphony


Composer(s):Michael Daugherty, David Gillingham, Donald Grantham, Daron Hagen, John Philip Sousa, Daniel Welcher, Charles Rochester Young,

Tracks:
1. Young: Tempered Steel
2. Grantham: Southern Harmony (Movement's 1-4)
3. Gillingham: Concertino for Four Percussion
4. Sousa: Easter Monday on the White House Lawn
5. Welcher: Symphony No. 3 'Shaker Life' (Movement's 1-2)
6. Hagen/Spede: Wedding Dances from "Bandanna"
7. Daugherty: Niagara Falls





http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MLQC6BTN
It's in MP4 want another format please let me know

Sirusjr
08-14-2009, 05:20 PM
please label your links so that future searchers can find it and people who haven't been paying attention to your requests can know what you are linking. Needs composer name and work name at the very least and album art if possible. Thanks :)

AussieGuy
08-15-2009, 02:33 PM
Another request: Monteverdi "Vespro della beate Vergine" of 1610. I've been downloading the audios from the Savall recording on youtube, but if anybody has the Paul McCreesh version...?

Thanks,
-A.

Wakahisa
08-19-2009, 06:07 AM
Camille Saint-Saens: Concerto N.5 , Please :).
I saw it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_LcU8rx-J8&feature=related.

Do somebody has it? The complete Masterpiece of Concerto n.5?

Thanks in Advance.

1337
08-19-2009, 06:32 AM
Camille Saint-Saens: Concerto N.5 , Please :).
I saw it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_LcU8rx-J8&feature=related.

Do somebody has it? The complete Masterpiece of Concerto n.5?

Thanks in Advance.

Ahhh, I see you have taken an interest in the Egyptian Concerto! really a wonderful and under appreciated piece. Saint-Saens' music is clever and listening to his music never dissapoints.

A few things to listen to within the concerto:

Mvt 1: The 2 lovely themes that interchange and develop
Mvt 2: The piano imitates the sounds of crickets chirping in the night


http://avaxhome.ws/music/classical/saint_saens_thibaudet.html

Wakahisa
08-20-2009, 03:24 AM
Ahhh, I see you have taken an interest in the Egyptian Concerto! really a wonderful and under appreciated piece. Saint-Saens' music is clever and listening to his music never dissapoints.

A few things to listen to within the concerto:

Mvt 1: The 2 lovely themes that interchange and develop
Mvt 2: The piano imitates the sounds of crickets chirping in the night


http://avaxhome.ws/music/classical/saint_saens_thibaudet.html


They are asking a password. which is it?

tangotreats
08-20-2009, 09:02 AM
Password: www . AvaxHome . ru (remove spaces)

As shown on the website.

JRL3001
08-20-2009, 12:11 PM
When I'm sick, I tend to do annoyingly complicated things to distract me from how terrible I feel. You lucky people - the result of today's efforts is this:



GEORGE GERSHWIN
RHAPSODY IN BLUE


The Paul Whiteman Band
George Gershwin, piano

1927 Recording



Danny Sir, you are the Man. I love this recording of Rhapsody in Blue! It is such an amazing recording, with Gershwin him self playing the piano! I love it! My parents have this EXACT same record, but sadly it is in poor shape. Also acquired at a yard sale, there is a large gash about mid way through the record that must be manually skipped past. I am so happy you transferred this so I can hear this in its entirety. I also MUST applaud you on how clean and clear this sounds for how old of a recording this is. Whatever you did to clean up the audio worked our very well!

I have a recording conducted by Michael Tilson Thomas that I will have to dig out and put up here for you in return for your awesome presentation of the classic recording :D

Lens of Truth
08-20-2009, 03:55 PM
Another request: Monteverdi "Vespro della beate Vergine" of 1610. I've been downloading the audios from the Savall recording on youtube, but if anybody has the Paul McCreesh version...?
Found:



MONTEVERDI - VESPERS
Gabrieli Consort and Players, Paul McCreesh
http://rapidshare.com/files/135395197/Monteverdi.Vespro.McCreesh.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/135395841/Monteverdi.Vespro.McCreesh.part2.rar

:)

tangotreats
08-20-2009, 05:10 PM
To all the good people who've been waiting weeks and weeks and weeks for the MP3 version of the Glagolitic Mass...

http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=gahknxhjbg

This is a placeholder. Artwork and more info to come in about an hour. But the music is yours as of right now. :)

Sirusjr
08-20-2009, 05:11 PM
Thanks danny! Now I can listen to it on the go through my awesome car speakers.

tangotreats
08-20-2009, 05:14 PM
Sod me, that was fast!

With pleasure. :)

arthierr
08-20-2009, 08:39 PM
Thank you!

Wakahisa
08-21-2009, 12:26 AM
Thank you :)!!!!

Does anybody here have another Saint-Sa�ns or Choral composition?

or maybe the complete work of H�ndel: "Alexander Feast"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl9EKtZg4XU&feature=related

thanks in advance :)!

Sirusjr
08-21-2009, 04:36 AM
Leos Janacek - The Cunning Little Vixen
Prague National Orchestra and Chorus
|MP3|VBR|2CD|210MB|


http://www.sendspace.com/file/03bmtw
PSW: smile

AussieGuy
08-21-2009, 02:50 PM
Found:



MONTEVERDI - VESPERS
Gabrieli Consort and Players, Paul McCreesh
http://rapidshare.com/files/135395197/Monteverdi.Vespro.McCreesh.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/135395841/Monteverdi.Vespro.McCreesh.part2.rar

:)

You sir, are something wonderful! Thank you VERY much. I'll start downloading it after midnight.

-A.

AussieGuy
08-21-2009, 02:51 PM
To all the good people who've been waiting weeks and weeks and weeks for the MP3 version of the Glagolitic Mass...

http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=gahknxhjbg

This is a placeholder. Artwork and more info to come in about an hour. But the music is yours as of right now. :)

Woo hoo! Thank you thank you! But I've been enjoying the audio files downloaded from youtube.

-A.

tangotreats
08-21-2009, 03:38 PM
Delete them! They suck! These are much better! ;)

Lucidolph
08-21-2009, 07:17 PM
Delete them! They suck! These are much better! ;)

I think i did the right thing here,
didn't listen on youtube, waited for the DANNY version ;D
s'gonna be more WOW when i hear it the first time me thinks,
all my patience shall now finally pay off

AussieGuy
08-22-2009, 02:12 PM
Delete them! They suck! These are much better! ;)

I've followed your orders, and you were quite right. The new mp3's are quite simply magnificent. Thank you again!

-A.

Majinai
08-22-2009, 02:57 PM
Do you have Giuseppe Tartini's Devil's Trill?

Lens of Truth
08-22-2009, 04:04 PM
You can get it here:



TARTINI - THE DEVIL'S SONATA
Andrew Manze
http://rapidshare.com/files/57900961/Tartini_Il_Trillo_del_Diavolo_e_outras_obras_Manze .rar

Grunthor
08-22-2009, 07:33 PM
Thx for Tartini :)
I love Violin :)

Majinai
08-22-2009, 08:36 PM
THNX SO MUCH

AussieGuy
08-23-2009, 02:10 AM
I've been listening to the McCreesh version of the Monteverdi Vespers - O quam gloriosum! - thank you SO much for making them available. Another request - mp3's of the Savall version?... I've downloaded them from youtube, which is just OK, bit of course the sound quality is a bit muddy.

cheers and thanks,
-A.

Sanico
08-26-2009, 05:11 PM
No one asked for it, but since it's a sold out title, i think no one would mind of this being posted here.






Magic Fire

All tracks @ 320 Kbps
http://rapidshare.com/files/271785065/Magic_Fire.zip




Details from Varese Sarabande site.

Magic Fire
By Erich Wolfgang Korngold
Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
This title is now sold out

Limited Edition of 1000 copies



Music Composed by Richard Wagner
Adapted and Supervised by Erich Wolfgang Korngold

Williams Dieterle�s 1955 film biography was the last film to be scored by the great Erich Wolfgang Korngold. Though retired from film scoring since 1947, Dieterle coaxed the master composer into returning in order to adapt and supervise all of the film�s music. Korngold would be free to choose repertoire, artists, orchestra, chorus and the recording venue, and Korngold�s wishes in musical/dramatic matters were to be adhered to without any interference. So while the music is by Wagner, this is Korngold�s baby, through and through. And what a baby it is! Magic Fire is a thrilling tribute from one legendary composer to another. The soundtrack also exhibits Korngold�s utter mastery at the piano.

The film starred Alan Badel as Wagner, Carlos Thompson as Franz Liszt and also featured both Yvonne De Carlo and Peter Cushing. Even Korngold himself appeared, playing conductor Hans Richter.

Magic Fire is a priceless historic document and a truly magical musical creation all its own.

The final curtain call of the great Erich Wolfgang Korngold is at last available on CD.

This special commemorative edition remembers both Erich Wolfgang Korngold and his son, the legendary music producer George Korngold. November 2007 marks the 50th anniversary of Erich�s death and the 20th anniversary of George�s. Neither will ever be forgotten.

The CD features the original extensive liner notes by George Korngold.


TRACK LISTING:

1. Main Title (Die Walk�re, Act 3) (1:48)
2. The Meadow (1:17) (Rienzi, Rienzi�s Prayer and Overture)
3. Ocean Voyage and Paris (:55) (Der Fliegende Holl�nder, Overture and Daland�s Aria, Act 2)
4. Visit To Meyerbeer (:59) (Les Huguenotes, Page Boy�s Aria, Act 2)
5. Wagner Plays For Meyerbeer (1:36) (Der Fliegende Holl�nder, Overture) Erich Wolfgang Korngold, piano
6. Der Fliegende Holl�nder, Performance (3:36) (Opening, Ghost Chorus and Finale) Otto Edelman, bass-baritone / Leonie Rysanek, soprano
7. Revolution and Tale Of The Holy Grail (5:19) (Lohengrin, Prelude and Entr�Acte, Act 3) Hans Hopf, tenor
8. The Salon (1:38) (Die Walk�re: Winterst�rme, Act 1) Leonie Rysanek, soprano
9. Wagner Plays Tristan Und Isolde (3:17) (Prelude, Act 3) Erich Wolfgang Korngold, piano
10. Love Scene (2:37) (Dreams from the Wesendonk Lieder)
11. Tannh�user, Paris Performance (3:19) (Overture and Venusberg Ballet, Act 1)
12. Tannh�user (Continued) (1:31) (S�ngerkrieg, Act 2) Otto Edelman, bass-baritone / Hans Hopf, tenor
13. Z�rich (Tristan Und Isolde, Prelude to Act 2) (:41)
14. The Bedroom / The Messenger (1:27) (Tristan Und Isolde, Act 2 and Act 3)
15. Farewell (2:47) (Tristan Und Isolde, Act 2) Erich Wolfgang Korngold, piano
16. Arrival In N�rnberg (Die Meistersinger, Act 3) (:54)
17. Neuschwanstein (Die Meistersinger, Act 3) (1:30)
18. Wagner Plays Themes (Die Meistersinger), Vocal Rehearsal (1:45) (Preislied, Act 3) Erich Wolfgang Korngold, piano Otto Edelman, bass-baritone / Hans Hopf, tenor
19. Die Meistersinger, Performance (2:32) (Overture and Act 3)
20. The Warning (:52) (Der Ring Des Nibelungen, Curse, Fate and Death Motives)
21. Triebchen (Siegfried, Act 3 and Siegfried Idyll) (1:45)
22. Liszt And Cosima: Wagner Weds (1:22) (Die Walk�re, Wotan�s Farewell, Act 3 and Lohengrin, Wedding March, Act 3)
23. Bayreuth (:32) (Die G�tterd�mmerung, Walhall Motive and Siegfried�s Rhinejourney)
24. Der Ring Des Nibelungen, Performance-Montage (5:06) Das Rheingold, Nibelheim, Scene 3, Spear Motive, Scene 4 � Otto Edelman, bass-baritone / The Rhinemaidens, Scene 4 / Die W�lkure, Ride Of The Valkyries, Act 3 � Leonie Rysanek, soprano / Siegfried, End Of Act 1 � Hans Hopf, tenor / Siegfried, Entr�Acte, Act 3 / Die G�tterd�mmerung, End of Act 3 � Leonie Rysanek, soprano
25. Venice, Wagner Plays Themes From Parsifal (2:41) (Parsifal Chimes, Bell Theme, Temptation Theme and Flower Maidens, End Of Act 3) Erich Wolfgang Korngold, piano
26. Wagner�s Death � Finale (1:07) (Parsifal, End Of Act 3)

Wakahisa
08-27-2009, 04:43 AM
:o anything of Camille Saint Saens (besides the ones that are already posted) or Arvo Part?

Lens of Truth
08-29-2009, 01:58 AM
Magic Fire


Thanks Sanico! This is perhaps mostly of curiosity value, but I love the tracks with Korngold at the piano. Moreover, it reminds me how much I NEED to see this film! William Dieterle was a brilliant, undervalued director, with a great visual sense, and an ability to modulate 'tone' to magical effect - a thing sadly now lost to cinema ;)

There's a new recording of EWK's arrangement of Mendelssohn's music for A Midsummer Night's Dream (1935 - another Dieterle production, with some exquisite, rich, pictorial imagery). I'm going to try to get my hands on it as soon as I can, and I'll be sure to upload it here when I do.

Sirusjr - The Cunning Little Vixen is much appreciated too. Great upgrade from the suite I have.

stardragon978
08-29-2009, 02:04 AM
Does anyone happen to have a complete version of Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake?? Many thanks in advance.

Lens of Truth
08-29-2009, 02:13 AM
Swan Lake? I'll find my cds and upload shortly :)

stardragon978
08-29-2009, 02:36 AM
Many many thanks Lens!!!!

Lens of Truth
08-29-2009, 02:57 AM
Did a bit of a scrabble around and found a 320kbps rip of Andre Previn's recording with the LSO. I'm going to download it myself. If I think the Charles Dutoit version I have is better I'll upload that too, but tbh I've always found it a little lacking in character (though the playing is immaculate).. and Previn's seems to be a fav with reviewers. See what you think :)



TCHAIKOVSKY - SWAN LAKE
(Complete Ballet)
Andre Previn, London Symphony Orchestra

Part 1: http://www.mediafire.com/?1jjwmy5zmiz
Part 2: http://www.mediafire.com/?tvwmmjuzmjm
Part 3: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tvjgj020f1w

Lens of Truth
08-29-2009, 03:13 AM
Another request - mp3's of the Savall version?...


Can you handle APE?

If so, this page has the rapidshare links:
http://avaxhome.ws/music/monteverdi_vespro_della_beata_vergine_savall.html

stardragon978
08-29-2009, 05:01 AM
Part 3: http://www.mediafire.com/?tvwmmjuzmjm[/CENTER]

The link for Part 3 leads to the same link as part 2, lens.
Here's the corrected link:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tvjgj020f1w

Lens of Truth
08-29-2009, 05:20 AM
Oooops! Thanks for the correction. Post amended.

Grunthor
08-29-2009, 10:29 PM
Thanks for Swan Lake :)

Lens of Truth
08-30-2009, 10:04 PM
TCHAIKOVSKY - SWAN LAKE
(Complete Ballet)
Charles Dutoit, Montr�al Symphony Orchestra


MP3-V0 + Scans
http://www.mediafire.com/?8ksbw1ujbep8ubs
http://www.mediafire.com/?7ic2aa0bu2amcv3

From the Gramophone review:

The Montreal performance is in every way recommendable. The very opening sets the seal on Dutoit's approach and the aptness of his pacing, with the warm introduction leading through a perfectly managed accelerando to the Allegro giusto, and elsewhere the tempo relationships maintain the structural flow of Tchaikovsky's four carefully conceived sections, almost like the four movements of a ballet-symphony, with a distinct key structure. Yet Dutoit revels in the imaginative orchestral colour and the diversity of the individual sections of the "Pas de deux", "Pas de trois", "Pas de six" and the famous "Danses de cygnes". It is above all a romantic reading, and rises to the occasion, appropriately reaching its peak in the great final scene, where the Swan theme is giving its frisson-creating transformation at the B major climax. Here the resplendent Decca recording is wonderfully expansive, and throughout the glowing St Eustache acoustic adds much to the beauty of the sound. There is an excellent introduction on the work's history from Noel Goodwin and John Warrack's exemplary synopsis not only relates the narrative to the music, number by number, but tells us about the composer's self-borrowings from his operas Undine and The Voyevoda. I would now regard Dutoit as a clear first choice.

Sirusjr
08-30-2009, 10:10 PM
Wonderful thanks lens! I needed a good version of Swan Lake!

stardragon978
08-30-2009, 10:14 PM
Many thanks for uploading both of these, Lens.
I am currently downloading the second one you posted and am looking forward to enjoying it!

Lens of Truth
08-30-2009, 10:40 PM
You're both welcome. I'll upload The Nutcracker and Sleeping Beauty soon too.

Lens of Truth
08-31-2009, 06:16 AM
TCHAIKOVSKY - THE NUTCRACKER
(Complete Ballet)
Valery Gergiev, Kirov Orchestra


MP3-V0 + Scans
http://www.mediafire.com/?3rym3b4yl3e7hvb

Review in The New York Times:

For most of us, Tchaikovsky's ballet ''The Nutcracker'' probably means one of two things: the perennial magic of the stagework itself or a purely musical encounter with the beloved little dances that pepper the second act. But who would pause over the whole of Tchaikovsky's musical work, every scene and transition, without the stagecraft and dancing? After all, ''The Nutcracker'' isn't exactly the ''Pathetique'' Symphony.

Or is it? In a new recording by Valery Gergiev and the Kirov Orchestra ''The Nutcracker'' takes on a symphonic aspect of unsuspected power and depth. While cleverness and brilliance may be routinely associated with Tchaikovsky's evergreen score, Mr. Gergiev gives fresh meaning to those virtues in an interpretation that is anything but routine.

Listening to the Kirov's vibrant playing here, one thinks of Toscanini's definition of tradition as the last bad performance. At least in the West, tradition has glazed the rich textures of ''The Nutcracker'' with a superficial gloss that reflects nothing much deeper than good tunes. Mr. Gergiev and his savvy Russian ensemble strip away that varnish to get at the counterpoint, the interior voices and their animating rhythms. End to end, it's a heady process of rediscovery.

Again and again, one is reminded of Tchaikovsky's lifelong fascination with music of the 18th century. Along with the sparkling clarity and motoric energy that Mr. Gergiev brings to the work at every turn, he also catches a distinctive edge of Sturm und Drang that charges Tchaikovsky's music at unexpected points: in Drosselmeyer's presentation of gifts, in the impassioned duet between Clara and the Nutcracker, even in the grand waltz that crowns the ballet.

Perhaps nowhere is Mr. Gergiev's sense of the musical fabric more striking than in the transitional Act I tableau of the Christmas tree, leading to the ''Waltz of the Snowflakes.'' The conductor achieves an aura of dramatic suspension and flow worthy of a well-fashioned symphonic movement; ''The Nutcracker',' Mr. Gergiev demonstrates, makes for compelling theater even on the stage of the imagination.

But above all, his seriously considered reading shows us an eveninglong symphonic work of unflagging vitality and invention. Tchaikovsky may have rued the wild popularity of his children's tale, but that was after the creative fact. Mr. Gergiev takes us back to that first light of inspiration, and his orchestra plays as if guided by the composer's own hand.

Sirusjr
08-31-2009, 06:19 AM
I forever hate the nutcracker and can't get into it because the main themes were drilled into my head as Christmas tunes. I'm sure it is musically wonderful but i cringe everytime I listen to it.

Lens of Truth
08-31-2009, 06:31 AM
I'm betting it's the suite you're most familiar with.. Why not try the sample track I've included? It always reminds me of Horner for some reason. Other recommendations: 'Polichinelle (The Clown)', with a fabulous central section that Gergiev handles better than I've ever heard before; the 'Intrada', beginning with harp being strummed passionately, almost like a lute, and a gorgeously simple passionate theme that just grows and grows.

I can quite happily live without the cutesy 'Overture' and 'March' too, but I think you'll be surprised at how fresh and vivid some of the other famous tunes are in this recording. He really goes for the baselines and syncopations :)

Lens of Truth
08-31-2009, 08:04 AM
TCHAIKOVSKY - THE SLEEPING BEAUTY
(Complete Ballet)
Mikhail Pletnev, Russian National Orchestra


MP3-V0 + Scans
Disc 1: http://www.mediafire.com/?5umz3efjgfq56al
Disc 2: http://www.mediafire.com/?9do9md1gha65jnv

Gramophone:

Given the total engagement in every bar of this recording, especially the vivid and varied characterisation, one is left wondering why there appeared to be less of it in this team's DG cycle of the Tchaikovsky symphonies. That Pletnev knows and loves this score was already obvious from his own piano arrangements of parts of it, and their recordings. And if ever proof was needed of the pianist's ability to transfer completely intact to the orchestra his own special brand of fantasy and superfine articulacy, this is it. Hardly a minute passes without one's ear being enchanted by an affective gesture of the utmost precision, poise and sensitivity (all the various solos are superbly done); and significantly, the now-familiar Pletnev ideal of the tactfully and revealingly balanced tutti does not result in anticlimax, as it did in some of the symphonies.

If you need convincing, try the last ten minutes of Act 2 - a symphonic impression of the 100year sleep, owing not a little to Wagner in its methods and to something of the magical workings of Tchaikovsky's own sea music for The Tempest - and ask yourself if you have ever heard it as atmospherically shaded; the subtle glints of Tchaikovsky's wonderful orchestration as well caught; or the transition from static contemplation, through the kiss, to genuinely joyful activity, as well-gauged. A very special combination of all the right choices made as regards dynamics, tempo and differentiation of mood and, like so much else in this performance, a scene whose potential I cannot recall having been as fully realized as it is here.

The DG sound for Pletnev is as vibrant as you could wish, with deep perspectives and a superbly managed ambience. The 'magical' scenes are bathed in the appropriate enchanted halo, yet the textures kept clear in the active, louder sections of the score. It is a fractionally more brilliant sound than DG supplied in the symphonies (at last, the timpani are fully in focus!) and if the cellos are occasionally obviously spotlit and the violins inclined to a very slight steeliness in their upper reaches (their lower 'chest' voices are as glorious as ever), there is no denying the expert matching of tone and body of these divided fiddles (the score abounds in antiphonal exchanges for them). Not an easy task with half of them pointing in a different direction. I suppose that if you are going to divide your first and second violin desks, the ideal would be to have a group of seconds who were all left-handed!

Sirusjr
08-31-2009, 04:35 PM
Ok lens, you convinced me. I'll check out the full Nutcracker even though I may have to remove the over-popularized tracks for my sanity. I think it would be better to say horner reminds you of Tchaicovsky rather than the other way around though considering who came first.

Lens of Truth
08-31-2009, 05:20 PM
Ok lens, you convinced me. I'll check out the full Nutcracker even though I may have to remove the over-popularized tracks for my sanity. I think it would be better to say horner reminds you of Tchaicovsky rather than the other way around though considering who came first.

Well quite! ;) It's well known that Horner took 'inspiration' from Tchaikovsky (among many others). Listen to the wind chords at 2:50 in 'Inside the Christmas Tree' - it's Apollo 13!!

Grunthor
08-31-2009, 07:17 PM
Thanks for all the Tchaikovsky works Lens :)

megamania83
08-31-2009, 07:56 PM
I forever hate the nutcracker and can't get into it because the main themes were drilled into my head as Christmas tunes. I'm sure it is musically wonderful but i cringe everytime I listen to it.

YOU...dramatical pause for a deep breath-in...HAVE SOMETHING...dramatical pause for a breath-out...AGAINST MY BELOVED NUTCRACKER o_O LOL

streichorchester, indeed an impressive collection...I am glad, that I�m not the only classical freak around :D

Lens of Truth, thanks for the complete ballets :)

May I ask you, people, don�t you know, where I could find Rachmaninoff�s "Bumblebee" and Pachelbel�s "Canon in D" arranged for piano? Just decided to give it a try ;) Because I�m totally hopeless T_T

arthierr
09-02-2009, 12:18 AM
Thanks for these excellent posts, Lens!

ohwiseone
09-02-2009, 03:27 AM
Does anyone happen to have Rips of Tchaikovsky Symphonies no.4 and no.6 I can't seem to find my recordings and for some reason its been a headace trying to track down recordings of them

Sirusjr
09-02-2009, 03:45 AM
I have a Tchaikovsky complete symphonies by the berliner philharmonic. I'll try to post them soon. I'll put each CD separate so you can grab the ones you want.

ohwiseone
09-02-2009, 04:09 AM
Thank you Sirus,

stardragon978
09-02-2009, 04:17 AM
Tchaikovsky Symphonies!!! Sounds awesome to me too, Sirusjr!
Thanks for the other two Tchaikovsky ballets, lens!!
I enjoyed them very much!!

Lucidolph
09-02-2009, 04:57 PM
Ermmm ...
Heyy, Lens, this link
http://www.mediafire.com/?tvwmmjuzmjm
doesn't seem to be working for me...
I've DLed part 1 and 3 of the mediafire links, but part2 loads just the same, looks like it's gonna work, s'all there, but i click "download" and it just doesn't start... it just takes ages then presents me with "Page Load Error"...

Erm, anyone else having this problem? Perhaps you could upload this part2 somewhere else? Or if it IS broken, somehow, perhaps you could try and fix it? ^^'''

Thanks Lens...

Lens of Truth
09-02-2009, 05:09 PM
Lucidolph, I'd recommend you download the one I posted later conducted by Charles Dutoit. It's from my own rip, and is better quality than the Previn (randomly found these mediafire links on another site). Also there are issues withn that Previn upload, like pretty much every track being mistitled and some cutting out early.

Lucidolph
09-02-2009, 06:12 PM
That's 180meg i'll never see again D;
Okay ^^'
Thanks

Damn you people and your unlimited DLs T_T
It shall forever remain a dream for me...

Sirusjr
09-03-2009, 02:42 AM
Tchaikovsky - 6 Symphonies (4cd)
|Herbert Von Karajan conducts the Berliner Philharmoniker|
|MP3|192kbps|
Each CD is a separate Rar


CD1: Symphonies 1 and 2
http://rapidshare.com/files/274917132/Tchaikowsky_6_Symphonies_CD1.rar
CD2: Symphonies 2 and 3
http://rapidshare.com/files/274917136/Tchaicovsky_6_Symphonies_CD2.rar
CD3: Symphonies 4 and 5 Plus Scans
http://rapidshare.com/files/274924073/Tchaicovsky_6_Symphonies_CD3.rar
CD4: Symphonies 5 and 6
http://rapidshare.com/files/274927668/Tchaikovsky_6_Symphonies_CD4.rar
PSW: smile

ohwiseone
09-03-2009, 03:14 AM
thank you TONS sirus i can finally stop searching EVERYWHERE

Sirusjr
09-03-2009, 03:19 AM
No problem. I grabbed it a LONG time ago when someone linked to a blog that had tons of shit in lossless and of course converted it for portability.

ohwiseone
09-03-2009, 03:24 AM
Well its a good thing you did, because for some reason The Tchaikovsky symphonies are getting harder and harder to track down

FulciLives
09-03-2009, 04:22 AM
EMPTY

Lens of Truth
09-03-2009, 04:51 AM
Fulci, here's a link list for an APE version (EAC too, so it ought to meet your exacting standards ;)):


VERDI - MACBETH
Claudio Abbado, Milan La Scala Orchestra & Chorus
Pl�cido Domingo, Shirley Verrett, Piero Cappuccilli, Nicolai Ghiaurov


http://rapidshare.com/users/24XD3Y

Password: www. AvaxHome. ru
(without spaces)

Sirusjr
09-03-2009, 04:53 AM
I just found some wonderful Carl Nielsen on that lossless blog that I am going to slowly download and convert to MP3.
Carl Nielsen & Kalevi Aho : Concertos for Clarinet and Orchestra - Martin Frost - Osmo Vanska - Lahti Smphony Orchestra - SuperAudioCD - 2007.
Nielsen Carl : String Quartets Vol.1: The Young Danish String Quartet - SuperAudioCD - 2007.
Carl Nielsen : Orchestral Music : Thomas Dausgaard - Danish National Symphony Orchestra / DR - SuperAudioCD - 2007.

Lens of Truth
09-03-2009, 04:57 AM
Thanks Sirus! The Clarinet Concerto is great. I'd be especially grateful for the Orchestral Music disc with Thomas Dausgaard :)

FulciLives
09-03-2009, 06:26 AM
EMPTY

arthierr
09-03-2009, 02:00 PM
Bibbidi Bobbidi Bach! - Donald Fraser [1996]


Credits to elphie





Playlist:

1. Whistle While You Work / Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Beethoven)
2. Give a Little Whistle / Pinnochio (Haydn)
3. A Whole New World / Alladin (Chopin)
4. Lavender Blue (Dilly Dilly) / So Dear to My Heart (Faure)
5. Just Around the Riverbend / Pocahontas (Vaughan Williams)
6. Chim Chim Cher-Ee / Mary Poppins (Pachelbel)
7. The Siamese Cat Song / Lady and the Tramp (Falla)
8. Some Day My Prince Will Come / Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Berlioz)
9. Circle of Life / Lion King (Gregorian Chant)
10. So This Is Love / Cinderella (Debussy)
11. Kiss the Girl / The Little Mermaid (Sibelius)
12. Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo / Cinderella (Bach)
13. You've Got a Friend in Me / Toy Story (Bernstein)
14. Bella Notte / Lady and the Tramp (Satie)
15. The Ballad of Davy Crockett (Copland)


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QQT3VME5

Grunthor
09-03-2009, 07:50 PM
Thank you very mach for Tchaikovsky, Verdi and Bach ;)

Lens of Truth
09-03-2009, 10:17 PM
STOKOWSKI'S MUSSORGSKY
Matthias Bamert, BBC Philharmonic Orchestra


MP3-V0 + PDF booklet
http://rapidshare.com/files/275240699/Stokowski_s_Mussorgsky.rar

1. A Night on Bald Mountain 10:15

Boris Godunov: Symphonic Synthesis 24:20
2. Outside the Novodievichi Monastery - 6:56
3. Coronation of Boris - 5:29
4. Monks chanting in the Monastery of Choudov - 2:47
5. Siege of Kazan - 1:35
6. Outside the Church of Saint Basil - 3:41
7. Death of Boris - 3:52

8. Entr`acte to Act IV of Khovanshchina 5:25

Pictures at an Exhibition 28:48
9. Promenade - 1:53
10. Gnomus - 2:23
11. Promenade - 0:56
12. The Old Castle - 3:46
13. Bydlo - 2:43
14. Promenade - 0:46
15. Ballet of the Chickens in their Shells - 1:04
16. Samuel Goldenberg and Schmuyle - 2:23
17. Catacombs - 1:53 �0.70
18. Con mortuis in lingua mortua - 1:51
19. The Hut on Fowl's Legs (Baba Yaga) - 2:59
20. The Great Gate of Kiev 6:09

A treat for all fans of dark, burnished orchestral music. These are Leopold Stokowski's orchestrations of various works by Modest Mussorgsky. Beginning with his arrangement of 'A Night of Bald Mountain' for Disney's Fantasia - that lies somewhere in between the rough-hewn Mussorgsky original and Rimsky-Korsakov's more refined version, and taking us through a 'Symphonic Synthesis' of the opera Boris Godunov (a masterpiece of musical narrative and atmosphere) to a grand setting of 'Pictures at an Exhibitiion'. Originally a piano suite, 'Pictures' is best known in Ravel's orchestration. Stokowski, though, does things a little differently, keeping the fulsome Russian flavour of the score (he omits two short numbers not present in the original manuscript that he deemed 'too French'), and the orchestral texture is ripe and thick-set. The grotesquery of 'Gnomus' and 'The Hut on Fowl's Legs' may make you think of a certain Mr Herrmann, and in the rousing finale, 'The Great Gate of Kiev', Stokowski treats the orchestra like a giant sonorous organ, with instruments blending and swelling over a pedal bass, while bells chime in triumph.

Hope you enjoy it as much as I do! :)



Sirusjr
09-03-2009, 10:21 PM
Sounds wonderful lens. Too bad I have to download all that carl Nielsen which is in 8 or so parts total on rapidshare before I grab that. I look forward to listening to it when I get to download it!

stardragon978
09-04-2009, 01:25 AM
Thanks for the Tchaikovsky Sirusjr!!
Can't wait to listen to them!

FulciLives
09-04-2009, 01:35 AM
EMPTY

Sirusjr
09-04-2009, 01:42 AM
I know how that is. The blog I'm grabbing some stuff from the guy likes to use 100mb parts. Probably because they were uploaded before the part max was upgraded. It can be annoying but thats what I put others through with my RS uploads.

FulciLives
09-04-2009, 01:58 AM
EMPTY

Sirusjr
09-04-2009, 04:43 AM
I will upload the last one tomorrow! I personally couldn't stand the clarinet concerto on the first listen. Maybe it will grow on me!

Carl Nielsen - String Quartet
|Young Danish String Quartet|
|MP3|VBR256 V-0 Fast|Scans|
(http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coverav.jpg)
01. String Quartet in G minor, OP.13 : I. Allegro energico [0:09:48.51]
02. II. Andante amoroso [0:05:45.29]
03. III. Scherzo : Allegro molto [0:04:56.65]
04. IV. Finale : Allegro (inquieto) [0:05:42.46]
05. String Quartet in F major, OP.14 : I. Allegro non tanto e comodo [0:07:52.58]
06. II. Adagio con sentimento religioso [0:07:50.21]
07. III. Allegretto moderato ed innocente [0:03:39.56]
08. IV. Finale : Molto adagio - Allegro non tanto, ma molto shcerzoso [0:06:39.63]
09. String Quintet in G major : I. Allegro pastorale [0:08:22.40]
10. II. Adagio [0:07:10.66]
11. III. Allegretto scherzando [0:04:30.23]
12. IV. Finale : Allegro molto [0:05:20.34]

http://rapidshare.com/files/275366099/CN-SQV1.rar
PSW: smile
Review by Classics Today:

It's been a very good couple of years for the clarinet repertoire, what with magnificent new concertos written by Lindberg, Rautavaara, and now this one by Kalevi Aho. Intensely lyrical, thematically memorable, and beautifully scored, this piece easily should find a home in concert halls throughout the world. Aho has said that he writes melodically because it is still the best tool for the musician to convey the most expressive information in the smallest space; the truth of his observation is evident in every bar of this evocative concerto. It covers a huge range of moods, from a Tempestoso opening to its emotional core, an Adagio mesto ("sad"), that leads to a Mysterioso conclusion. Along the way there's plenty of virtuosity, of which Martin Frost takes full advantage.
The Nielsen Concerto, perhaps the greatest work in the medium, also receives an outstanding performance, though I have one small reservation. This is an eruptive, often angry work--I'm thinking of such moments as the cadenza after figure 7, marked "passionato", and in some of the duels between clarinet and snare drum. Frost plays all of these passages with consummate technique, but with such nimbleness and ease of articulation that some of the music's inherent stridency and combattiveness seems to get lost. This is only obvious in direct comparison to such performances as Olle Schill's (also on BIS), or perhaps the Drucker/Bernstein (Sony), where the two soloists manage to turn admittedly more effortful performances to more intense expressive effect.
I suspect that for most listeners this won't be a big deal, and Frost's musicianship is such that he's a joy to listen to in any circumstances. There isn't a minute in either work where you will find your attention wandering, particularly with such sympathetic accompaniments from Vanska and the Lahti Symphony Orchestra, never mind the spectacular sonics in both stereo and SACD surround formats. This is an excellent release, then, irrespective of one's personal take on the individual merits of various versions of the Nielsen. For the Aho alone, it certainly belongs in the collections of clarinet fans.
Carl Nielsen - Concerto for Clarinet and Orchestra
|Martin Frost - Osmo Vanska - Lahti Smphony Orchestra|
|MP3|VBR256 V-0 Fast|Scans|
(http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frontcover.jpg)
01. Carl Nielsen : Clarinet Concerto: I. Allegretto un poco [0:08:19.38]
02. II. Poco adagio [0:04:52.12]
03. III. Allegro non troppo [0:11:08.37]
04. Kalevi Aho : Clarinet Concerto: I. Tempestoso [0:07:47.46]
05. II. Cadenza [0:02:28.59]
06. III. Vivace [0:06:22.02]
07. IV. Adagio [0:06:22.23]
08. V. Epilogo [0:06:39.08]

http://rapidshare.com/files/275372500/CN-CCO.rar
PSW: smile
Gramophone Review:
I�m not sure what the members of the Danish Quartet, who recorded the Nielsen quartets more than effectively in 1992, think about a �young� incarnation appearing 15 years later. But I hope they would doff their caps in admiration, because these new recordings are top-notch, and I�m happy to echo and endorse the enthusiasm they have already generated in Denmark.

The benchmark recording has been that of the Kontra Quartet (BIS 4/92 � nla), sympathetic interpretations of works which do not enshrine the absolute finest of Nielsen, for all that he was an orchestral violinist and an experienced and enthusiastic performer of string quartets. But the new Quartet, all in their early twenties, bring a freshness and energy plus a level of sheer accomplishment that I don�t ever remember hearing in these works. Far from defensiveness or special pleading, they simply assume that they are playing high quality music and that their job is therefore to give it their all. The results are joyous, effervescent.

The First Quartet is the most striking beneficiary, since it can too easily sound texturally over-written and structurally effortful, as in the finale�s contrived �R�sum�. Such reservations are hard to entertain while listening to this thoroughly infectious account. Nielsen asks for energy in the first movement, and that is what the Young Danish Quartet give him, along with large-scale sweep and mellifluous tone throughout. The Fourth Quartet, a tough-minded cousin to the comic opera Maskarade, is interpretatively more challenging, and the Young Danish Quartet may in future find more subtly shaded routes through it; in the meantime their expressive candour and passion are entirely to the good. They are joined in the Quintet by Tim Frederiksen, under whom they studied at the Royal Conservatory in Copenhagen, and without quite transmuting base metal into gold, they display the various facets of what was a breakthrough piece for the young Nielsen to their best advantage.

EDIT: Really lens? Genre BLUES on Stokowsky!??

musikera10
09-04-2009, 12:43 PM
hi. :D i was wondering if anyone has stravinsky's firebird suite. can u post it here? i kinda need it. i'm sorry for bugging coz i can't seem to find it, if it's already been posted. thanks a lot. :D

Lens of Truth
09-04-2009, 06:04 PM
May I ask you, people, don�t you know, where I could find Rachmaninoff�s "Bumblebee" and Pachelbel�s "Canon in D" arranged for piano? Just decided to give it a try ;) Because I�m totally hopeless T_T

Here's 'Flight of the Bumblebee', arranged by Rachmaninov from Rimsky-Korsakov's original orchestral piece from the opera, 'The Tale of Tsar Saltan':
http://rapidshare.com/files/275605090/Olga_Kern_13_Flight_of_the_Bumblebee.mp3

I don't know about Pachelbels Canon on piano, but here it is played by The London Baroque Consort:
http://rapidshare.com/files/275608831/The_London_Baroque_Consort_01_Pachelbel_Canon.mp3


EDIT: Really lens? Genre BLUES on Stokowsky!??
:laugh: Well, if you want to get technical about it then.... er, no. Is there a name for the mouse equivalent of a typo? There should be. Actually you might want to change Tchaikovsky's first name from 'Pytor' to the correct 'Pyotr' on The Nutcracker and Sleeping Beauty too ;)

Sirusjr
09-04-2009, 06:12 PM
HAHA yeah I'm just messing with you Lens. I tend to get quite anal about genres in my music because it is one of the major ways I sort stuff on my ZUNE. This one just is more annoying than usual because there is no real alternative to Classical. Still having a completely wrong genre is worse than Soundtracks instead of Soundtrack or something similar.
With regards to Tchaikovsky, i tend to simply rename it to Tchaikovsky on my zune for easier reading. I don't really care which artist tag you use so long as it is consistent when you upload from that artist. So if you upload tons of Tchaikovsky, at least give each the exact same artist (copy and paste?). I'll get that other Nielsen up tonight :)

Lens of Truth
09-04-2009, 06:34 PM
I find the whole 'genre' thing really irritating tbh, and totally useless for organising music. For example, it's as incorrect (probably more so) to call Bach 'Classical' as it is to call Iron Maiden 'Pop'. It's soooooo one sided (but this is a cultural thing in general). People are happy to insist on a blanket popular/classical divide, but only by designating 'classical' as the 'other'. There's all kinds of specificity applied to genres within the realm of popular song (which has been the dominant form of music for over a century), even to the point genres-within-genres, and yet the absurdity is that there is far more complexity and diversity of style of form of technique and of purpose in that homogenous mass which people happily throw into the drawer marked 'classical' (forgive the shades of elitism here).

When I'm tagging film music I usually just go for 'soundtrack' as the easiest option, but that doesn't seem quite right either. Then there's anime, game music etc etc. Ah, the tyrannies of classification! ;)

Looking forward to that Nielsen orchestral set!

Sirusjr
09-04-2009, 06:39 PM
Well perhaps I have less knowledge of classical music and thus a hard time giving the subgenres of classical separate classifications.
I do use the term Soundtrack for movie soundtracks, Game for game soundtracks, Anime for anime soundtracks just because I have so many of each that it makes things easier for me. Similarly I have various tags of Jpop, J-Rock, Metal, Rock, Heavy Metal, Progressive Metal that I arbitrarily apply to things. The important thing is that when I look through my player and feel like something heavy, I can look through Metal, Rock, Heavy Metal, and J-Rock and find most of it there, some of which I may forget I put on my zune. The tags may not always be 100% but at least it gives me some consistency with it all.

gordy
09-05-2009, 03:48 AM
Does anyone have: Shostakovich Symphony No. 11 Conducted by: Leopold Stokowski? I really like his original [remasterd] recording of this.

Sirusjr
09-05-2009, 04:35 AM
Carl Nielsen - Orchestral Music
|Thomas Dausgaard - Danish National Symphony|
|MP3|VBR256 V-0 New|Scans|
(http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frontcovery.jpg)

01. Maskarade - 1. Ouverture [0:04:21.68]
02. Maskarade - 2. Hanedans [0:05:42.43]
03. Hr. Oluf han Rider - Forspil: Andantino giusto [0:05:38.27]
04. Snefrid - Suite for Orkester - 1 [0:02:15.09]
05. Snefrid - Suite for Orkester - 2 [0:02:43.54]
06. Snefrid - Suite for Orkester - 3 [0:02:03.19]
07. Snefrid - Suite for Orkester - 4 [0:03:27.42]
08. Snefrid - Suite for Orkester - 5 [0:02:33.17]
09. Saul og David - Forspil til 2. akt: Allegro marziale [0:05:08.31]
10. Rhapsodisk Ouverture - En Fantasirejse til Faeroerne [0:10:17.52]
11. Willemoes - Forspil til 3.akt: Andantino espressivo [0:02:11.71]
12. Pan og Syrinx - Naturscene for Orkester, Op. 49 [0:08:43.40]
13. Amor og Digteren, Op. 54 [0:05:22.08]
14. Ouverture Helios, Op. 17 - Andante tranquillo [0:11:55.29]
http://rapidshare.com/files/275801663/CN-OM.rar
PSW: smile

Lens of Truth
09-05-2009, 06:03 PM
Excellent music and performances! Several operatic preludes and such here that I'd not heard before. The 'Snefrid Suite' is also a discovery and what a beautiful, gripping suite it is! Due to its subtitle of course, the 'Rhapsodic Overture' always makes me cast my mind back to when I visited the Faroe Islands and, funnily enough, there seems to be just the right mix of remoteness and mystery, with the sense of liveliness and hopefulness that I remember about the place. 'Helios' is also done very well - a feeling of inevitable ascent that eventually turns into fizzing energy. Lovely post!

Sirusjr
09-05-2009, 06:09 PM
Re-Posted from the Oriental Instrumental Thread!

Toru Takemitsu - Orchestral Works (4cd)
|Tokyo Metropolitan Symphony Orchestra|
|MP3|VBR256 V-0 Fast|Scans|PSW: smile|
Autumn

Download (http://rapidshare.com/files/276009777/Takemitsu_Autumn.rar)


Coral Island

Download (http://rapidshare.com/files/276019950/Takemitsu_Coral_Island.rar)


Gemeaux

Download (http://rapidshare.com/files/276029722/Takemitsu_Gemeaux.rar)


Visions

Download (http://rapidshare.com/files/276036456/Takemitsu_Visions.rar)


Toru Takemitsu - I Hear the Water Dreaming
|BBC Symphony Orchestra - Andrew Davis|
|Patrick Gallois - Fabrice Pierre - Goran Sollscher|
|MP3|VBR 256 V-0 Fast|Scans|PSW: smile |

Download (http://rapidshare.com/files/276043687/Toru_Takemitsu_-_I_Hear_The_Water_Dreaming.rar)
EDIT: For those who care about tags, I forgot to mention that the first 4 Takemitsu albums are tagged improperly. I noticed after uploading. Be warned in advance that they all say "Unknown Genre" so you can change to whatever you prefer yourself.

Auric_Goldfinger
09-05-2009, 11:01 PM
I haven't been here for a long time, but came back today, and just wanted to say thanks to all the uploaders for their hard work :)

musikera10
09-06-2009, 04:01 AM
Hi. I was wondering if anyone has any of these:
-Brahms Sonata No.3 in fm
-Brahms Symphony No.4
-Stravinsky Firebird Suite
-Bach Prelude in bm (arr. by Siloti)
-Francesca de Rimini (I forgot who the composer is)
-Hinata Rhapsody No.1 op.38 (I don't know who the composer is, i just heard this in a j-drama i recently watched)

It would be great if someone could help me. I need most of these for school. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. :D

Lens of Truth
09-06-2009, 07:35 AM
For musikera10:


BRAHMS - SYMPHONY NO. 4
Carlos Kleiber, Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra


MP3-V0
http://rapidshare.com/files/276261313/Brahms_4.rar

One of my absolute favourite symphonies. From the sighing theme heard in the first bars (that nevertheless contains an element of horror) - a linkage of thirds in fact that floats along and is eventually whipped-up into a tempestuous development - witness the arching flow of the music, as one supple passage blends into the next. The almost medieval sounding main subject of the slow movement is explored through its modal implications; a crude figural suggestion, if the first movement was akin to the swells of a great ocean, the second would be an ancient twilight forest teaming with latent forces, not too far away from the one in Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream. The scherzo (I think it's the only actual scherzo in a Brahms symphony, as he usually favoured gentler intermezzo-like pieces) totally takes my breath away. It struts around between huge chordal face-offs, but always with a smile on its face (listen to the deliciously tongue-in-cheek use of the triangle!). And finally we have a very succinct Passacaglia, a Baroque form of repeating a base line or harmonic progression and weaving ever more elaborate variations around it. The repeated theme here is supposed to originate in a Bach Cantata, I think, but I've never actually managed to track it down.

Anyway, sorry about that unsolicited gush. Hope you enjoy. I'll get onto Firebird and Tchaikovsky's Francesca as soon as I'm able.

Sirusjr
09-06-2009, 06:29 PM
Interesting, Frankenstein plays Brahms!?
All jokes aside i'll check out the recording :)

Lens of Truth
09-06-2009, 11:04 PM
LOL. Kleiber was a very unique conductor - he only made a small number of recordings, but they're all gold. You're bound to have come across one of the many recommendations for his Beethoven 5+7, and his architectural account of Schubert's 'Unfinished' is the one used in Minority Report (although much mauled by the film's sound mix). This Brahms recording is the first I heard of this symphony and I've never really felt the need to hear another. It's that good. Totally idiomatically in tune with Brahms' very Classical structures.

musikera10
09-07-2009, 12:14 PM
Anyway, sorry about that unsolicited gush. Hope you enjoy. I'll get onto Firebird and Tchaikovsky's Francesca as soon as I'm able.

It's okay. :D I greatly appreciate people who can't help but gush over things they truly love, especially classical music. And the way you described it makes me really excited for this. Now i can't wait to listen to it. Haha. <3 Thanks for your input on this. :D

I've always loved Brahms' vocal works, I'm sure I'll love this too. XD <3

musikera10
09-08-2009, 04:47 PM
okay, i know i'm going to start to sound like a complete idiot here... but i just downloaded these files from: http://rapidshare.com/users/LJ5UTB for the files: GH.TP.EE.EV.AB.LPO.LSO parts 1-4

and the zips all have passwords. i've been having so much fun looking for music here, i have completely forgotten where i got this link. whoever posted this before, can u put up the password for me pls? i'm really sorry for disturbing... XO

Sirusjr
09-09-2009, 05:34 AM
Password should be iceshoweronfire

Lens of Truth
09-09-2009, 06:13 AM
STRAVINSKY - THE RITE OF SPRING
Valery Gergiev, Kirov Orchestra


MP3-V0
http://rapidshare.com/files/277539286/Stravinsky_Rite.rar

BBC Music review:

The wait is over: Gergiev's Rite is out, and it's as thrilling as anyone could have wished, a riot of rhythms and colours dispatched with a heady mixture of virtuosity and controlled savagery. The recording is astonishing, there's so much detail and a natural sense of air around everything, yet the intimate intensity of the orchestra pit is never sacrificed for the broader soundstage. The bass drum and timps have real impact in the Ritual of abduction, the earthiness of the double basses in the Spring rounds has to be heard to be believed, the bass clarinet adds a pungent depth to the winds, and the brass are truly brazen, howling at the heart of the ritual.

This is a sacrifice you can feel happening in front of you - Stravinsky's score throbs with animal life until the very last chord...and that's the only moment I struggled with Gergiev; he makes us wait a full five seconds for the final chord! Too much for me, but I can't deny that the tension is held all the way to that last massive hammerblow.

It's all too easy to go on about The Rite and ignore the coupling, Scriabin's The Poem of Ecstasy, but that wouldn't be fair: it's the kind of luscious performance that might have you salivating over the sheer beauty of the sounds Gergiev coaxes from the Kirov Orchestra. Everyone who still thrills to Stravinsky's masterpiece should hear this new recording; anyone who thinks The Rite has lost its power through over-familiarity should buy it as a tonic, and feel the adrenaline flow once more.

musikera10
09-09-2009, 01:32 PM
@sirusjr: thanks a lot! :D

@lens: i love u for the rite of spring! XD

1337
09-09-2009, 06:58 PM
STRAVINSKY - THE RITE OF SPRING
Valery Gergiev, Kirov Orchestra


MP3-V0
http://rapidshare.com/files/277539286/Stravinsky_Rite.rar

BBC Music review:

Wow... what a lousy album cover... I like how Scriabin's Poem of Ecstasy is written in large fonts.

Great upload though!

Grunthor
09-09-2009, 08:20 PM
Thanks for STRAVINSKY :)

Lucidolph
09-11-2009, 10:24 PM
If anyone cares xD

...Sirus,


Lahti Smphony Orchestra Where's the Y ;O

Page28...

Ehh ^^'' I just notice typos too easily, doubt it'd change anything, but... well, there u go ;D

Oh, and thanks for the ermm xD stuff ;D which i shall DL in a sec x]

Sirusjr
09-11-2009, 10:39 PM
Uh....Thanks...
And you're welcome for all the Stuff!

pabloslpkn
09-12-2009, 06:34 AM
wow..nice, thank u very much 4 sharing this.

AussieGuy
09-12-2009, 03:04 PM
I have some requests for violin concertos:

Saint-Saens number 3
Prokofiev 1 and 2

I can find them on Rapidshare, but only in APE format - does anybody have them in mp3?

Thanks!
-A.

Lens of Truth
09-12-2009, 04:00 PM
I have the Prokofiev concertos. They'll be up soon :)

Lucidolph
09-12-2009, 05:39 PM
Uh....Thanks...

This is why i don't like pointing things out D;
You don't seem to appreciate it �� hmm...
just when i was gonna unblock you too T_T

Sirusjr
09-12-2009, 06:02 PM
Hahaha i was being sarcastic. You can block me if you want, you'd miss on my awesome music!

AussieGuy
09-13-2009, 12:48 AM
I have the Prokofiev concertos. They'll be up soon :)

Ooh lovely! Thanks very much - I'll look forward to them when they're up.

-A.

Lucidolph
09-13-2009, 02:47 AM
you'd miss on my awesome music!

;O
Well it wouldn't be fair to deprive my ears of such a musical adventure, ughh... Fine �� only coz i love my ears so much D; and they've done nothing wrong...

Bully T_T

Keep the music coming ;D
oh, and yeah, I'm AWFUL at telling when someone's sarcastic... sorry

---

Oh, and i never make any useful posts on this site, ever, sooo... maybe this is my first ^^...
hmm,

GENRES ... tagging things correctly, well i like ur style Sirus... ^^; wow... i'm awful at this,
erm, Lens... I agree with you too ;D about Genres, and sub-genres and yeah ^^''

I just think that genres should be used as rough ideas as to what the music is like... ermm,
i actually DONT do genres at ALL on my music xD just got up to 480gig of music... and all of it, is left tagged as it was when i DLed it, sometimes i tag it with an artist of album or change the names of the songs if it's REALLY unnacceptable...
All of my music is playlisted per album/ost/score... i know it's awful xD i never listen to music outside the house, coz i dont go outside ;D ever... so no need to tag it for a music player,i always listen to it on my pc, and ONLY on WMP10, had to downgrade for my personal taste...

quite frankly i do things weird, i dunno what im talking about, but i like it that way ;D
wow... none of what i said was anything... it was just me talking to myself, which i do a lot...

ermm... scores/osts, right... i playlist 'em as simple as "Eragon [OST]"... done, do i know the composer? no... if it's good enough that i care, i will look it up, and if it's so good i bother to remember the composer, then ;D aye, i just found a composer i like, get more stuff, listen more, smile more...

gonna stop talking now -_-
dont shout at me for wasting your life ;D

P.S. i only talk to one person... fullstop, in life... and this is how i talk to her ^... so i dunno how else to talk D; i understand it sounds like i'm a stupid little kid talking all stupid-like, but i'm not ;3

Oh, and if u want me to just stop talking, and just be a lurker, feel free to tell me so

why am i even talking about music -_- i only listen to 1 song xD ever really

Lens of Truth
09-13-2009, 05:38 PM
As requested by musikera10:


TCHAIKOVSKY - FRANCESCA DA RIMINI

http://rapidshare.com/files/279123618/Francesca_Da_Rimini_-_Symphonic_Fantasia_after_Dante__Op_32.mp3

Lens of Truth
09-14-2009, 01:05 PM
PROKOFIEV & SHOSTAKOVICH - VIOLIN CONCERTOS
Dmitry Sitkovetsky Violin
Sir Colin Davis, London Symphony Orchestra
Andrew Davis, BBC Symphony Orchestra


MP3-V0
Prokofiev: http://rapidshare.com/files/279891737/PVC.rar
Shostakovich: http://rapidshare.com/files/279901451/SVC.rar


AussieGuy, I'm glad you requested these - haven't heard the Prokofiev for a while and it's reminded me how magical these pieces are. I recommend you listen to the Shostakovich concertos too. These are really excellent performances. I've included a sample below of one an absolutely stunning movement to whet your appetite; it's another Passacaglia (I'm beginning to realise this is one of my favourite forms, but I don't know why!). Try it :)

Sample: http://rapidshare.com/files/279911862/Violin_Concerto_No.1_in_A_minor_Op.77-_III._Passacaglia-_Andante_-_Cadenza.mp3

AussieGuy
09-14-2009, 01:13 PM
AussieGuy, I'm glad you requested these - haven't heard the Prokofiev for a while and it's reminded me how magical these pieces are. I recommend you listen to the Shostakovich concertos too. These are really excellent performances. I've included a sample below of one an absolutely stunning movement to whet your appetite; it's another Passacaglia (I'm beginning to realise this is one of my favourite forms, but I don't know why!).

Oh yes, I'd forgotten the Shostakovich - I grew up with an old LP of my father's, with David Oistrakh and an orchestra conducted by Shostakovich himself. Magical and superb music. Thank you very much indeed!

-A.

Lens of Truth
09-14-2009, 01:16 PM
You're welcome :)

..with David Oistrakh and an orchestra conducted by Shostakovich himself.
Now that's a recording I'd like to hear!!

Juanfer
09-15-2009, 03:12 PM
Hello, I spent the last days looking for some bagpipes concerts. I hardley found something , and I would like to know if somebody has anything contemporany concert.
And example of what I am looking is this (it's from a soundtrack by Goldenthal).

www.4shared.com/file/132810547/f77e9b08/use04_Pista_4.html

THANKS FOR EVERYTHING!!!

ShadowSong
09-15-2009, 03:28 PM
just curious, what goldenthal score was that? i didn't recognize it

Juanfer
09-15-2009, 03:34 PM
Michael Collins. I'm looking a concert with bagpipes. My example is a soudtrack from maestro Goldenthal beacause is the most concertistic composer (Corigliano is the master of Goldenthal).

musikera10
09-16-2009, 01:25 PM
As requested by musikera10:

[CENTER]TCHAIKOVSKY - FRANCESCA DA RIMINI


omg! thanks soo much! :D can't wait to listen to it! <3

ohwiseone
09-17-2009, 01:31 AM
I have another request does anyone have ANY RECORDING ( i don't care at how terrible or good it is)

of Ottrino's respighi (SP?) Church Windows all 4 movements

steve2000aa
09-17-2009, 01:56 AM
Not sure if this has been posted. Apologies if it has.

Erich Wolfgang Korngold: Complete Music For Violin & Piano

Violin Sonata In G Major, Op. 6 (1912)
01 - 1. Ben Moderato, Ma Con Passione
02 - 2. Scherzo (Allegro Molto - Con Fuoco)
03 - 3. Adagio (Mit Tiefer Empfindung)
04 - 4. Finale (Allegretto Quasi Andante - Con Grazia)

Much Ado About Nothing
Suite For Violin And Piano, Op. 11 (1919)
05 - 1. M�dchen Im Brautgemach (Bridal Morning)
06 - 2. Holzapfel Und Schlehwein (Dogberry And Verges)
07 - 3. gartenscene (Intermezzo)
08 - 4. Mummenschanz (Hornpipe)

09 - Sonett F�r Wien (In Memoriam), Op. 41 (1952)

10 - Caprice Fantastique (The Goblins), Op. 3 (1908)

11 - Gesang Der Heliane (Ich Ging Zu Ihm) From "Das Wunder Der Heliane", Op. 20 (1927)

12 - Serenade From "Der Schneemann" (1908)

13 - Pierrots Tanzlied From "Die Tote Stadt", Op. 12 (1920)

14 - Mariettaslied From "Die Tote Stadt", Op. 12 (1920)

Detlef Hahn - Violin
Andrew Ball - Piano

http://rapidshare.com/files/252645128/krngdcmvp.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/252664811/krngdcmvp.part2.rar

Lens of Truth
09-17-2009, 09:21 AM
steve2000aa - I don't think it has been posted before. Thank you very much!

ohwiseone - fraid I don't have a recording of Church Windows. You've reminded me I need to hear more Respighi! I've got the Sinfonia Drammatica if that's of any use?

Grunthor
09-17-2009, 10:28 PM
Please upload Erich Wolfgang Korngold: Complete Music For Violin & Piano in mp3 steve2000aa. Yours are not working for me :( I would like to hear this :)

steve2000aa
09-18-2009, 04:16 AM
@Grunthor
Sorry, I cannot do that. The FLAC files were given to me by a friend and I do not retain the CD. How to convert FLAC to MP3, I have no idea.

So the links won't download or the FLAC files won't play? Because I did manage to download the files from the links provided.

I have few more Korngold files coming my way - alas, all in FLAC.

oglasifwd
09-19-2009, 10:10 AM
Please upload Erich Wolfgang Korngold: Complete Music For Violin & Piano in mp3 steve2000aa. Yours are not working for me :( I would like to hear this :)

Hi Grunthor...you can download freeware flac to mp3 converter here:
http://www.asoftwareplus.com/flac-to-mp3-converter.html

or you can simply download FLAC PLUGIN for winamp here:
http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/131643
(simply click at the button DOWNLOAD and after that install it) - after the installation you can listen FLAC files in WINAMP

hope this helps...

Lucidolph
09-19-2009, 02:20 PM


Can anyone PLEASE upload this in MP3 ^^'
yes, I know i'm a pain, but i really don't have the means of DLing and converting it myself due to download limit... I would if i could, time's never a problem with me, could wait a day for it to DL and would be happy, but yeah -_-

Thanks in advance to those who're kind enough to help me out ;D

ohwiseone
09-21-2009, 01:59 AM
steve2000aa - I don't think it has been posted before. Thank you very much!

ohwiseone - fraid I don't have a recording of Church Windows. You've reminded me I need to hear more Respighi! I've got the Sinfonia Drammatica if that's of any use?

Yes actually i have never heard that piece , If you want I will upload Pines of Rome and Fountains of Rome (even though Pines is Superior IMO) Done by the CSO if you wanna expand your Respighi collection

Lens of Truth
09-21-2009, 02:14 AM
Thanks, but I already have two recordings of the Roman Trilogy! By all means though, do post for the benefit of others. I always think Respighi would have written amazing film scores.

I'll up the Sinfonia at the end of the week.. I'm going to be incredibly stressed until then! :S

ohwiseone
09-21-2009, 02:17 AM
Thanks, Lens

Yeah Ill upload The trilogy, sometime later this week, i gotta look up cover art and dig out the source files

JohnGalt
09-21-2009, 02:42 AM
Hi guys!

I have a request/question for you. I'm a huge fan of Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade (Op.35) and I'm on a hunt. For reasons I won't bother getting into, I need to find a few different recordings of it for comparison purposes. My question then is: which recording of the suite is your favourite? If you happen to have it available for downloading too, that would be fabulous.

Thank you very much in advance! :)

deadman342
09-21-2009, 02:46 AM
I don't suppose you have Quatuor Mosaiques' recording of the Op. 20 quartets? I love them and i can never find them...
QUOTE=Lens of Truth;1288256]
HAYDN - STRING QUARTETS OP. 76

(Performed by Quatuor Mosa�ques on period instruments)
MP3-V0


CD1: http://rapidshare.com/files/257364323/Haydn_Quartets_Op.76_CD1.rar

String Quartet Op.76 No.1 in G major 24:36
1 Allegro con spirito 8:58
2 Adagio sostenuto 6:32
3 Menuet, Presto. Trio 2:51
4 Finale. Allegro ma non troppo 6:15

String Quartet Op.76 No.5 in D major 18:20
5 Allegretto 5:10
6 Largo ma non troppo; cantabile e mesto 6:45
7 Menuet. Allegro ma non troppo. Trio 2:51
8 Finale. Presto 3:34

String Quartet Op.76 No.4 in B flat major "Sunrise" 23:07
9 Allegro con spirito 8:25
10 Adagio 5:27
11 Menuet. Allegro. Trio 4:35
12 Finale. Allegro ma non troppo 4:40

CD2: http://rapidshare.com/files/257737507/Haydn_Quartets_Op.76_CD2.rar

String Quartet Op.76 No.2 in D minor "Fifths" 22:40
1 Allegro 9:43
2 Adante o pi� tosto allegretto 5:34
3 Menuet. Allegro ma non troppo. Trio 3:24
4 Finale. Vivace assai 3:59

String Quartet Op.76 No.6 in E flat major 23:34
5 Allegretto 7:10
6 Fantasia. Adagio 6:12
7 Menuet. Presto. Alternativa 3:34
8 Finale. Allegro spiritoso 6:38

String Quartet Op.76 No.3 in C major "Emperor" 27:22
9 Allegro 10:07
10 Poco adagio; cantabile 6:51
11 Menuet. Allegro. Trio 4:37
12 Finale. Presto 5:47[/QUOTE]

ohwiseone
09-21-2009, 03:46 AM
Hi guys!

I have a request/question for you. I'm a huge fan of Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade (Op.35) and I'm on a hunt. For reasons I won't bother getting into, I need to find a few different recordings of it for comparison purposes. My question then is: which recording of the suite is your favourite? If you happen to have it available for downloading too, that would be fabulous.

Thank you very much in advance! :)

I have a recording that is my favorite of Herbert Von Karajan: Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra that is loud and very nice, If you want it i can track down the source files on my computer

JohnGalt
09-21-2009, 03:56 AM
That would be fabulous, good sir!

AussieGuy
09-23-2009, 01:40 PM
A little something for all you good folk here: Havergal Brian's 16th Symphony; London Philharmonic Orchestra cond. Myer Fredman:

http://rapidshare.com/files/283888669/havergal_brian_symphony_no_16.mp3

Enjoy!