Can somebody fill me in about shadows past?
I've sleeped in different inns and have seen the -I thought all(7)- chinematics, but it's still not clear enough for me while I want it to be. I understand he was a robber(treasurehunter) togheter with some other man. That man died, and Shadow just came in Thamasa or so. ???? It's all very vague. Are the chinematics before shadow went bad (and killed his mother), and why became shadow such a loner. When was the time he pulled on his black clothes...? And who was that girl in Thamasa?
Somebody knows this? And does anybody know where I can get those chinematics on the internet?
ThAnX.

possible spoiler for those not finished with the game yet. for all the rest of you........











SAHDOW IS RELMS FATHER.

Now think about the interactions between strago,relm, shadow, and Shad's behavior on the ship heading to thammasa. Brialliantly Written and directed. this is one of the reason the game is my favorite in the series

whoa, is this some kind of joke or so. Serieusly can you be a bit more specific pleaz? Are there any happenings/moments in the game that it's stated or made clear. Or maybe subtile hints(like Square always does as usual-laguna-squall-ff8-). And who is that Shad? I may be've been a lil' sleepy sometimes while playing ff6, but this is something I didn't expect. Shadow is Relm's father ha!
I fully agree with you on your last line, though. ff6 is amazing, surely the ff with the most complex storyline ever.

Anywayz can you add some more clearness, and can somebody tell me all about Shadows past because it's all so enormously vague....

Nope. NO JOKE. Sorry about the confusion. Shad was/is just short for SHADOW. As for specific moments in the game, The Thammasa sequences, in both versions of the world. You will LEARN A LOT MORE about Shadow if you remember to wait for him on the floating island.

I can't seem to remember those Thamasa-sequences. But like I said before; I waited for Shadow on the floating Island and slept with him in 'every' Inn in the WOR so I saw all of his chinamatics/dreams, but those dreamflashes were not really clear enough for me to understand his past. Can someone tell me about his past. And maybe when I play the game over again I will watch better what all happens in Thamasa. Anywayz thank you OLEMASTER.

Here's something that can help prove it all to you. If you go to Thamasa, and examine the corner just above the stairs in Relm/Strago's room, you'll find another MomentoRing, and it just so happens that only Relm and Shadow can equip it.

I acctually figured out that Shadow was Relm's father when I saw that he could equip that ring, the dreams just proved that theory for me.

No problem, Zell. I'm here to ansewer any questions.oh, and Setzer-you are correct. as Much as I LOVE THIS GAME-I've played through it at least a dozen times-I had forgotten about the ring. thank you for reminding me.

Okay, but can you just tell me what the hell shadow has been doing in the past. Just make a summary of the dreams he had, because I don't get crap from those flashy dreams...pleaz.

and about shadow being Relms father; that Shadow and Relm are equipping the same (momento)ring isn't prove enough is it?
what was that other prove?

Okay, so I can't sum up all the dreams for you, because I haven't seen them all myself, but here's what got me to know for sure.

The description of the MomentoRing is something like "Fallen mother's ring. Protects against fatal attackes"

I thought that either Shadow was Relm's brother or father. Well, since he slit his mother's throat, I figured that he was probably her father. That's all I can give, though.

ok. here goes another side of the dreams.....Remember, Shadows real name, as you learn in the Flashbacks is Clyde, and his Partners name is Barram. that was the designers way of joking about CLYDE BARROW, of Bonnie and Clyde fame....if you are wondering who they are, they were a pair of infamous outlaws who went on a killing streak during the 1920's in Rural mid-USA.
as for"SLITTING HIS MOTHER'S THROAT FOR A NICKLE", as Locke said in south Figaro....Forget it. That's just in-game Gossip. His dark secret is that he let his partner die, then turned his back on the one GOOD thing in his life....his CHILD, Relm. you see, he had endured so much death, and as he always said, I am not a good person to be around...he has, obviously, a bit of a complex where he believes he is a jinx. think about about it: his mother and he have afallign out, he never gets to make ammends, goes on an excursion with Barram, his best friend. it turns into a Proffesion, one of Proffesional Robbery. that friend dies, he arrives wounded & exhausted at Thammasa....Meets a woman, falls in love, has a child. the woman dies, and....it was just too much, so once again, he ran away. his biggest problem is himself-his fear of facing up to his RESPONSBILITES. I hope this ansewers some part of your lingering questions.

<font face="lucida calligraphy" size="2">I always figured that they were brother/sister, and not father/daughter... because if they both can equip the memento ring, the description seems to fit better if they share the same mother... But then again, I never got to see all the dream sequences.

This seems to be THE ETERNAL DEBATE. now, as I have argued for Shadow being Relms Father, let me now explain how a sibling connection could be established,but couldn't exist, starting with THE RING.

Yep, Fallen mother. Yes, Shadow Does have a fallen mother....
as does Relm. but, This is a mere Coincidience. His mother was already Dead BEFORE RELM was born. The ring was a gift....A memento of Relms MOTHER/SHAdows....WIFE, LOVER? it is the first clue that there is a connection, a familial connection, between the two. you could argue that Strago was Shadows Father...but, Shadow Lacks MAGIC. The woman IS plainly Stragos Daughter & Relms MOTHER. The ring, as I have stated before, IS A SYMBOL of the love between the Three...a way to continue the EVERLASTING BOND OF FAMILY. thank you for your time. If I seem to have repeated myself, forgive me.

I forgive you...:D No, you didn't repeated yourself at all and I thank you for making much crap clear here. I'm beginning to understand it very well now. Although it stays a lil' bit of a mystery hmm..let me think about it some days (I'm way to lazy to think right now). If anyone who has much experience about FF6 too and thinks he can tell something new or reply on the things been said here come on and throw yourself in the 'shadowpastarguebattle'.
Let's debate!!! I'm going to think it over...soon my reply.
thanx OLEMASTER...

Shadow is Relm's father, seriously. I've been doing lots of FF research months ago....

Take note: Strago is NOT Relm's actual Granddaddy!!:confused:

Shadow is once a train robber alongside with his pal, Baram. They once stole 1,000,000GP!

Then, they were being chased by the Empire. Baram was badly injured and wanted Shadow to kill him, to end this torturing, which he refused.

Shadow arrived in Thamasa and married the woman that talked to him...

Shadow left Thamasa when she died after giving birth. Interceptor wanted to follow and Shadow allowed it to.....:uh?:

hmmm, maybe i should not post on this since no1 has 4 a while....i mean i really dont have much to add to the FACT that shadow IS relms father, but everyone missed the connection of interceptor (shads dog that, well, intercepts): interceptor was very fond of relm when they "first" met, but he hates people, so they must have already known eachother or relm was familiar somehow through her genetic make-up. also, inter was pretty...

SPOILER

protective of relm in the fire.

Originally posted by LEELOO 5
hmmm, maybe i should not post on this since no1 has 4 a while....i mean i really dont have much to add to the FACT that shadow IS relms father, but everyone missed the connection of interceptor (shads dog that, well, intercepts): interceptor was very fond of relm when they "first" met, but he hates people, so they must have already known eachother or relm was familiar somehow through her genetic make-up. also, inter was pretty...

SPOILER

protective of relm in the fire.

Off course you should post. Every little thing is important.
Well, you know Square, always telling the story through little subtile hints. Those are very important to come to know a lot about things wich seems that they aren't but they are..

Anywayz good point about Interceptor. but shouldn't Relm recognize the dog from the past when she was just a little kid. Or maybe she was too young and she'd already forgotten the animal. Hmmmm...keep the discussion up! It doesn't matter how small, every lil' fact/meaning will work. We will come to the conclusion...

I have read that if you see all seven of Shadow's dreams, then Shadow doesn't die at the game. Is this true and if so, what happens?

Originally posted by Agent0042
I have read that if you see all seven of Shadow's dreams, then Shadow doesn't die at the game. Is this true and if so, what happens?

Die at what game? He shouldn't be dying lest you forget him at the floating continent..

Besides, watching his dreams doesn't have any effect on the game, its just to add to the story and character development.

Whoops. What I meant was "at the end of the game." Apparently, the general consensus from most walkthroughs I've read is that he commits suicide. That's why he's not on the bridge of the airship in the ending. But I also read on a Secrets FAQ that his portion of the ending is somehow different if you get all of his dreams.

I read that on some website as well. I have never done it though, so I have no idea. Can anyone verify it?

He doesn't kill himself. All he says is to Interceptor "I want to make a new start" (Well something like that and leaves Interceptor behind instead of taking him along.) and that is why he isn't on the bridge at the ending but what he meant by "a new start" probably meant that he promises to never run away from his dreams again and start anew, (I remember now he also says "Baram, I'm not going to run away again.") So he probably would go back to Relm and they would be a family reunited but then again he is Shadow.