I heard he has an attack called Supernova. Is that attack an illusion or is it real? And can anyone mention Sephiroths notable feats?

Sephiroth is THIS strong.

Illusion. If supernova was real the whole meteor plotline would have been pointless (as well as the game). It's a gravity based attack as well meaning it can't actually kill.

Notable feats - He...summoned a meteor and burnt down a village. The meteor failed and the village was tiny so they're hardly impressive. There's more but I can't remember any.

He is inferior to Exdeath.

Supernova is conclusively an illusion because he can cast it more than once. It's basically just Graviga with a wanktastic animation. Also, causing the sun to flare up like that would have boiled the oceans and scathed the planet of all life. Sephiroth is all style and no substance.

Sephiroth is about strong enough to make a little girl cry. He is no match for Goku or Vash the Stampede.

He's weak enough that a thread specifically about him and his powers of lack of doesn't actually belong in General Final Fantasy. Moving to FFVII section...

one winged angel would make a really good wolk on tune for a boxing match

For mi he is strong..
So as his theme.. - One Winged Angel..
I like it veri much..

1/27 Chuck Norrises

103/1 Mel Gibsons

he is supposed to be stronger in advent children, but succumbs to only one of his 8 defeators in FF7, without any of the materia that helped them in that game.

the fact that he failed in FF7 without even facing the Weapons, which were incidentally designed for the very purpose of attacking jenova which is technically him, diminshes any sense of him being actually that powerful further. in short, an aesthetically cool character with an interesting back story and suitably insane plans that does not fulfill his potential

He is strong enough to lift up his mother's skirt, so he can hide behind it.

Using this canon dilogue, we see how mighty Sephiroth is.

Sephiroth: (reading a book) …an organism that was apparently dead, was found in 2000 year old geological stratum. Professor Gast named that organism, Jenova… Year, X Month, X Day. Jenova confirmed to be an Ancient …X Year, X Month, X
Day. Jenova Project approved. The use of Mako Reactor I approved for use… My other's name is Jenova… Jenova Project… Is this just a coincidence? Professor Ga st… Why didn't you tell me anything? …Why did you die?

Short time later...

Sephiroth: Don't you get it? An Ancient named Jenova was found in the geological stratum of 2000 years ago. The Jenova Project. The Jenova Project
wanted to produce people with the powers of the Ancients……no, the Cetra! …I am the one that was produced.


From the lies told him and his own bizarre logic, Sephiroth deduced he was “created” and a test-tube baby. This conveniently severed any ties he had with humanity which he seems to have also fabricated a story for.

Sephiroth: Long ago, disaster struck this planet. Your ancestors escaped… They survived because they hid. The Planet was saved by sacrificing the Cetra. After that, your ancestors continued to increase. Now all that's left of the Cetra is in these reports.

So, Sephiroth’s motives are a righteous hate for humanity. To avenge his “ancestors” and mother, he must kill and “take back” the Planet from humans. He then proceeds to perform his infamous rampage in Nibelheim.

But, isn’t this knowledge invalid? He wasn’t created. He wasn’t a Cetra. The “mother” of his was the real thing that wiped out the Cetra. This is fact. Yet, Sephiroth...

Sephiroth: ...Ah, but I have. I'm far superior to the Ancients. I became a traveler of the Lifestream and gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients.


Sephiroth: HA! You can not win, Cloud!

Cloud: But why are you doing all this with the godhood and stuff?

Sephiroth: What do you mean?

Cloud: Well, you stated that your mother and the Cetra were all killed by my people. And that you would kill us all for our crimes and take the planet “back for mother.” Yet the Ultimania Guide says you take Jenova over. And you yourself say that you gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients. Which I presume would include the fact a large amount of Cetra were killed by your mother who isn’t your mother and is just an alien from space. There’s zero reason for you to be doing any of this.

Sephiroth: Aha. You are quite clever.

Cloud: Not really. It merely takes a cursory glance through the script or actually reading what you say to figure out that your motives are a plot hole and non-existent.

Sephiroth: But now I shall travel the stars like mother!

Cloud: DUDE, haven’t I just told you? The thing you ripped the head off of, charming way to show your affection to mommy dearest by the way, ISN’T your mother at all. Your mother is in a cave on the planet you plan to destroy.

Sephiroth: ....

Cloud: Seriously, you were in a the Lifestream gaining all this power and you call it knowledge. Yet it’s made you completely stupid. Why are you doing any of this? Tell me.

Sephiroth: SILENCE! We shall fight!

Cloud: I’ll beat you for like...the 4th time now.

Sephiroth: AHA! The creators state clearly in the ReunioN Files that I am the most powerful being in all Final Fantasy VII. You have no chance!

*Sephiroth loses*

Sephiroth: Oh snap.

Cloud: While you are in your most powerful incarnation, it also notes that all the uber power is never shown in this movie. Isn’t that convenient.

Sephiroth: I shall not become just a memory!

Cloud: Sadly, you probably won’t become just a memory of a generic villain with even less reason to be a villain than Bowser in Mario. You’ll pop up in yaoi that makes everyone sick and gouge their eyes out when they see it. You’ll appear in other games no one cares about with probably even worse voice-acting than you’ve had in all your appearances. As long as the FFVII Fanboys exist (ie. Square-Enix and all the FFVII creators) there is no hope of sealing the wound and curing the blight you’ve left on good antagonists everywhere.

because he discovered the truth and changed his mind accordingly.

i agree the fact he never exerted his true power in advent children was cheap and kind of helped the movie to fail though. (i didnt mind so much until reunion files confirmed his lax approach to the fight. the movie had other flaws anyway)

Sephirtoth is badass................Period, im new, hey all

If your wondering how strong Sephiroth is, then he's to strong for you. Delete your game now. Your defeat is inevitable.

Sephiroth is a complete and utter pussy................Period, im new, hey all


hi

IMO, Sephiroth is strong enought to destroy almost everything but in reality(I mean in game) he just pretend to be invisible. In the end, he is not enought challenge unless you have too low level characters. In Ac he shows up suprisingly by reunion with Kadaj and seems to be pretty skilled and bad.(Well it's quite interesting when you can almost sight straight to the hearth when you just disturb your enemy by pushing him). He is quite invisible in the end if we realize, that he is in Cloud's memory. BTW, isn't it true that sephiroth was confused and controlled by Jenova trought jenova cells? So that's why he image things very wrong way. If someone invent a new story about FF7 and Sephiroth it may be just worn out thing. But let's just hope something new and interesting is possible to come in future...

IMO, Sephiroth is strong enought to destroy almost everything but in reality(I mean in game) he just pretend to be invisible. In the end, he is not enought challenge unless you have too low level characters. In Ac he shows up suprisingly by reunion with Kadaj and seems to be pretty skilled and bad.(Well it's quite interesting when you can almost sight straight to the hearth when you just disturb your enemy by pushing him). He is quite invisible in the end if we realize, that he is in Cloud's memory. BTW, isn't it true that sephiroth was confused and controlled by Jenova trought jenova cells? So that's why he image things very wrong way. If someone invent a new story about FF7 and Sephiroth it may be just worn out thing. But let's just hope something new and interesting is possible to come in future...

sephiroth controls jenova. this is confirmed by square.

in FF7 cloud fights sephiroth with all the materia power he can find, and with the rest of AVALANCHE. in advent children he uses no materia and the rest of AVALANCHE watch. sephiroth didnt exert himself either, this is also confirmed by square. therefore, his appearance was fan service waste.

The God-Emperor would laugh at Sephiroth's power.

I am such a nerd that what you just said made me a little wet.

The God-Emperor would laugh at Sephiroth's power.
I don't think he can laugh. Horus fucked him up pretty badly, or his body at least.

He's not.

1/27 Chuck Norrises

damn someone beat me to it

his power is maximum

Maximum suckiness.

his power is maximum

Something like that.

Look at the last boss of Final Fantasy VII, Sephiroth compared to the last boss of Final Fantasy IX, whatever that random thing was...huge difference. Final Fantasy IX may have better graphics than Final Fantasy VII but Sephiroth's persona is far reaching beyond any other boss I know on any game for any system.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha...


Silly Sephiroth fankid.



He can return from the brink of death because Square needed him for a sequel.

How powerful is Sephiroth? Let's check his track record:
+He was a high-ranked member of an "elite group" (SOLDIER)
+He leveled a small town into a raging inferno.
+He continues to manifest himself throughout the entire series via the tainted Lifestream (post-Crisis Core?)

Everything else about Sephiroth was carried out by his various "clones" after his demise against Cloud during the Crisis Core arc.
If he only had his head on straight, he would be one hell of a beast to take on.
His only real handicaps are:
-"Mother" complex.
-Not knowing the truth behind his "creation".
-"Vegeta Syndrome"....think about it.

You can take that how ever you want it.

hahaha

Sephy is very strong, but just a bit weak when Square needs him taken out for another sequel. To me he is the strongest entity in FFVII .

And this was revived because....?

I think they did it to piss you and everybody else off...and why did someone who has been registered for over a year revive it? You would think they would know better by now...

How powerful is Sephiroth? Let's check his track record:
+He was a high-ranked member of an "elite group" (SOLDIER)
+He leveled a small town into a raging inferno.
+He continues to manifest himself throughout the entire series via the tainted Lifestream (post-Crisis Core?)

Everything else about Sephiroth was carried out by his various "clones" after his demise against Cloud during the Crisis Core arc.
If he only had his head on straight, he would be one hell of a beast to take on.
His only real handicaps are:
-"Mother" complex.
-Not knowing the truth behind his "creation".
-"Vegeta Syndrome"....think about it.

You can take that how ever you want it.

lo fuckin l

I think they did it to piss you and everybody else off...and why did someone who has been registered for over a year revive it? You would think they would know better by now...
But only has two posts to his credit.

Sephiroth is not stronger than Emerald and Ruby.
Just sayin...

Sephiroth was only challenging in Kingdom Hearts. lol. Given his power level and ability in FFVII, his capabities were hindered by the very insanity that permited him to abandon his moral compass and turn to the dark side.

Of course Sephiroth controlled Jenova, seeing as Jenova was never conscious throughout the entire storyline.

In Advent Children his manifestation was merely an illusion brought on by reunion with Kadaj. Sephiroth turned right back into Kadaj as soon as Cloud kicked his ass.

Meteor was a pretty big deal(more like a pretty big turd, why it's symbolic of the giant turd you want to drop on this game[/avgn impression]), but Sephiroth didn't summon Meteor on his own. He manipulated Jenova into summoning Meteor by pooling together all the Jenova Cell infected people together in one place so as to lend Jenova enough power to pull it off. The result was more or less unsatisfactory. Sephiroth Killed Aeris, returning her to the planet, the holy materia falls into the lifestream, and Aeris is in the lifestream with it. With the life force of all the planet's souls(ironically this probably also included those of the robed fucks that Sephiroth killed after borrowing their power for the summoning of meteor), the holy blast, blasted Meteor out of existence and obliterated what remained fo Sephiroth. (Which still got returned to the lifestream...) All in all Sephiroth undid himself by killing Aeris. Her powers were not destroyed, but unleashed by liberating her from her physical form, and placing her in the lifestream put her in the best possible position to unleash Holy, not only granting her an omnidirectional arc in which to cast it in any direction, but by placing here right in the midst of the most potent mana-pool in existence throughout the setting. Whatever it was, wherever it was, whenever it was, she could strike it. And with the lifestream at her disposal for this spell, every person that Sephiroth murdered made Aeris stronger, and Jenova weaker. Of course, weakening Sephiroth's spell also weakened the force that kept meteor from succumbing to gravity and crashing down. Killing Sephiroth sets the final descent of meteor into motion. What is accomplished by killing Sephiroth, ridding the world of a destructive psychopath. What is the purpose of fighting Sephiroth, not much really... He was suspending the damned thing in air, gloating over how fearsome it was, and just waiting for Cloud to come and fight him. What were the stakes of defeating Sephiroth? Not much really, If Sephiroth killed Cloud and company, it would have only meant 7 really badass lifeforces and a remote control Moogle got added to Holy's grand burst, so all that was really at stake was Cloud and Co's own lives. Getting to see Cloud beat the crap out of Sephiroth with just the Buster sword, Priceless... The whole purpose for the fight against Sephiroth was for entertainment reasons really, and to ensure against the remote possibilbity that Sephiroth could possibly interfere with the casting of Holy... Man, had Sephy stayed his hand and left Aeris alive, the planet would've been royally fucked(or shat on rather).

So the synopsis. A whiney emo with an Oedipus complex and a sword that compensates for his small dick, wants to drop a giant turd on everyone who ever gave him a swirly in high school...

The only way to bring out Sephiroth's true power, would be to use a "Yo Momma" joke.

Sephiroth was only challenging in Kingdom Hearts. lol. Given his power level and ability in FFVII, his capabities were hindered by the very insanity that permited him to abandon his moral compass and turn to the dark side.

Of course Sephiroth controlled Jenova, seeing as Jenova was never conscious throughout the entire storyline.

In Advent Children his manifestation was merely an illusion brought on by reunion with Kadaj. Sephiroth turned right back into Kadaj as soon as Cloud kicked his ass.

Meteor was a pretty big deal(more like a pretty big turd, why it's symbolic of the giant turd you want to drop on this game[/avgn impression]), but Sephiroth didn't summon Meteor on his own. He manipulated Jenova into summoning Meteor by pooling together all the Jenova Cell infected people together in one place so as to lend Jenova enough power to pull it off. The result was more or less unsatisfactory. Sephiroth Killed Aeris, returning her to the planet, the holy materia falls into the lifestream, and Aeris is in the lifestream with it. With the life force of all the planet's souls(ironically this probably also included those of the robed fucks that Sephiroth killed after borrowing their power for the summoning of meteor), the holy blast, blasted Meteor out of existence and obliterated what remained fo Sephiroth. (Which still got returned to the lifestream...) All in all Sephiroth undid himself by killing Aeris. Her powers were not destroyed, but unleashed by liberating her from her physical form, and placing her in the lifestream put her in the best possible position to unleash Holy, not only granting her an omnidirectional arc in which to cast it in any direction, but by placing here right in the midst of the most potent mana-pool in existence throughout the setting. Whatever it was, wherever it was, whenever it was, she could strike it. And with the lifestream at her disposal for this spell, every person that Sephiroth murdered made Aeris stronger, and Jenova weaker. Of course, weakening Sephiroth's spell also weakened the force that kept meteor from succumbing to gravity and crashing down. Killing Sephiroth sets the final descent of meteor into motion. What is accomplished by killing Sephiroth, ridding the world of a destructive psychopath. What is the purpose of fighting Sephiroth, not much really... He was suspending the damned thing in air, gloating over how fearsome it was, and just waiting for Cloud to come and fight him. What were the stakes of defeating Sephiroth? Not much really, If Sephiroth killed Cloud and company, it would have only meant 7 really badass lifeforces and a remote control Moogle got added to Holy's grand burst, so all that was really at stake was Cloud and Co's own lives. Getting to see Cloud beat the crap out of Sephiroth with just the Buster sword, Priceless... The whole purpose for the fight against Sephiroth was for entertainment reasons really, and to ensure against the remote possibilbity that Sephiroth could possibly interfere with the casting of Holy... Man, had Sephy stayed his hand and left Aeris alive, the planet would've been royally fucked(or shat on rather).

So the synopsis. A whiney emo with an Oedipus complex and a sword that compensates for his small dick, wants to drop a giant turd on everyone who ever gave him a swirly in high school...

tl;dr

So the synopsis. A whiney emo with an Oedipus complex and a sword that compensates for his small dick, wants to drop a giant turd on everyone who ever gave him a swirly in high school...

Epic win.

tl;dr the rest

sephiroth is so powerful that he can stab a defenseless girl in the back and think he did something cool....until you beat him in half the time it takes to listen to one-winged angel. I bet he couldn't even beat ansem.

Sephiroth is so powerful th*interrupted by loud fart*

All in all Sephiroth undid himself by killing Aeris. Her powers were not destroyed, but unleashed by liberating her from her physical form, and placing her in the lifestream put her in the best possible position to unleash Holy, not only granting her an omnidirectional arc in which to cast it in any direction, but by placing here right in the midst of the most potent mana-pool in existence throughout the setting. Whatever it was, wherever it was, whenever it was, she could strike it. And with the lifestream at her disposal for this spell, every person that Sephiroth murdered made Aeris stronger, and Jenova weaker.
Man, had Sephy stayed his hand and left Aeris alive, the planet would've been royally fucked(or shat on rather).

That's a very interesting point. Much more of a shock than anything related to his crazy father, Hojo.
If Vincent wasn't such an angsty wuss back then (he still is, just w/ a larger gun:-P ), he could've saved everyone the trouble of Meteor AND Sephiroth.
Hell, he would've beat him into submission (can't say he'd kill 'em, but can't rule that out either), get the girl, and unknowingly save the world!
Everyone is happy....I think.

Cloud`s dick isn`t small!!!
Arghhh!!!

Anyway, yes, it`s only Vincent`s fault for being a wuss, withdrawing himself in a coffin and having sex with Shelke as if nothing ever happened....



I`m joking anyway. Who could have sex with that slutty little Shelke.

I forgot to say that Sephy is strong, but he had a bit too much of that "mommy" complex... Mum killed the child *cries*

Cloud`s dick isn`t small!!!
Arghhh!!!

Anyway, yes, it`s only Vincent`s fault for being a wuss, withdrawing himself in a coffin and having sex with Shelke as if nothing ever happened....



I`m joking anyway. Who could have sex with that slutty little Shelke.

I forgot to say that Sephy is strong, but he had a bit too much of that "mommy" complex... Mum killed the child *cries*

I love it when Fanboys get all pissy and defensive over their favorite characters when someone badmouths them...makes me lol...

...So the synopsis. A whiney emo with an Oedipus complex and a sword that compensates for his small dick, wants to drop a giant turd on everyone who ever gave him a swirly in high school...

Cloud`s dick isn`t small!!!
Arghhh...

I wasn't talking about Cloud, and yet you got all defensive of his small package. Yes, Cloud's dick is small, but that's not the whiney emo I was talkin' about.

Cloud`s dick isn`t small!!!
Arghhh!!!


It's not small, it's microscopic.

You'd know, TM, oho.

Oho.

Oh(interrupted by loud fart)

Shit I just got burned.

*Goes into a whinny crybaby rampage disregarding all logic*

well that attack i believe is what he sees happening to earth and he lets you see it because if you notice all those forms of sephiroth are not him then you fight the real him at the very end so i would have to say illusion but one you could feel because it would be like being in his mind i guess

As weak as the post above.

he's pretty weak - so much for best SOLDIER

Sephiroth once annihilated an entire field of sunflowers by himself....

Weak enough that if he were real, he'd find himself checking this thread repeatedly to see what people were saying about him.

So weak, I beat him 3 times in a row being level 30.

So did everyone else.

Sephiroths Super Nova is...strong. But apparently not enough to beat the Auto revive materia (if I can't remember the correct name, tough shit), or that Knights of Round.

not enough to beat the Auto revive materia (if I can't remember the correct name, tough shit),
Final Attack/Phoenix? Besides, I don't think Super Nova can KO your characters if they're at full HP.

Final Attack/Phoenix? Besides, I don't think Super Nova can KO your characters if they're at full HP.

Naw if i can remember it'll turn you in to a frog or sumthing? and i think zombie and all those abnormal status???

Only suckers get hit with the abnormal statuses.

Super Nova is weaksauce.