BeyondTheGrave245
06-13-2007, 04:40 PM
Well I just read at Gamespot that Square Enix Is releasing a 3d version of Final fantasy IV well essentially a remake of the original game. Here is a link to the news http://tinyurl.com/2o2nla. So what I would like to ask is, Does anybody think this is a good idea and If Sooo cant we ask Square to remake other final fantasy's *cough final fantasy VI*.

Neg
06-13-2007, 04:55 PM
Already has a thread: Thread 39967

VI doesn't need a remake, it's perfect as is. None of them need a remake. But, opinions, opinions.

Silfurabbit
06-15-2007, 03:45 PM
I hate ff iv wtf why did they decde to remake that

Hynad
06-17-2007, 11:02 AM
Because obviously, they don't care about you. They care about all the numerous fans of the game who want to see such a remake.

TM
06-17-2007, 11:45 AM
Percisely, people who complain about why remakes are made are just assholes who expect everything in the gaming world to revolve around them.

Neg
06-17-2007, 02:47 PM
Bullshit. I expect gaming companies to put their energies into new efforts. And I would think people who want remakes are the ones who want the world to revolve around them.

"I can't play this game, the graphics suck!!! Remake it, remake it!"

As opposed to people like me who are content with a game as is. Just keep remaking games everytime a new level of graphics and game-play is achieved, and we'll see if we end up with more energies going into remakes than original product.

May end up looking like the movie industry, innit? :o :p

EDIT: This is aimed at TM, not you Hynad.

TM
06-17-2007, 03:01 PM
Of course, but when remakes are made, people complain and question why they made it, those are the people I am talking about.

Neg
06-17-2007, 03:02 PM
Then you're talking about me :p

TM
06-17-2007, 03:03 PM
So you can't understand why they are making a remake?

Pimp Daddy McSnake
06-17-2007, 03:07 PM
Here's a good idea: Nintendo should re release the SNES and game developers should start making games for it again. ho ho ho

TM
06-17-2007, 03:10 PM
Here's a good idea: Nintendo should re release the SNES and game developers should start making games for it again. ho ho ho


lol

Neg
06-17-2007, 03:13 PM
That is a good plan, Ebichu.

Yes, I know why they make remakes: money and better graphics/gameplay. If those are commodities that are worth it to you, go right ahead.

TM
06-17-2007, 03:16 PM
Ok, then I don't mean you.

DarkClownNizzo
06-17-2007, 06:54 PM
Remakes are pointless to me unless they add tons of new content. And I mean tons. I ain't gonna sit down and play the same game over and over again when I could be playing other games instead.

Hynad
06-18-2007, 05:31 AM
Well, I'm a retro gamer. So of course I enjoy remakes, when they're done well.

I want a remake of FFVII, like most fans of the game. Not only because I want better graphics, but because if they end up doing it, maybe they can fix the game's flaws and I'm sure we'll get a better translation if they re-do it.

As for the remake of FFIV, as I said, I'm a retro gamer. I still enjoy the new games that are made. But the SNES era holds a really special spot in my heart, those were good days back then, and since FF IV is one of my favorite FF, I welcome this souped-up remake with open arms. I've been wondering for years what they could do with this game's mood and universe (as well as FF VI) if they were to remake it in 3D and using CGI cut-scenes and maybe voice acting... I just enjoy these games that much that I want to see an ultimate version of them. And seeing how they're going to rework the game's script by putting in stuff that were left out of the original game, I think it might be interesting to see just how much the original script was altered to be the FF IV we already know.

Anyways, I don't think it is a bad thing to do remakes. What would be bad is if we only saw remakes after remakes... But we all know S-E are still creating new games so why should we be concerned? There's a market for brand new games, and there's a market for remakes, so why should the companies only please one of these markets?

I think people who don't want remakes are the ones who want the world to revolve around them. People who want remakes don't say they don't want brand new games... But people who only want new games complain about remakes. That's pretty easy to see where the egotistic ones are.

Neg
06-18-2007, 05:40 AM
I think people who don't want remakes are the ones who want the world to revolve around them. People who want remakes don't say they don't want brand new games... But people who only want new games complain about remakes. That's pretty easy to see where the egotistic ones are.

This IS an interesting way to look at it. As I said, if they are worth it to you, and they're willing to make them, have at it. As you said, if they get to the point of doing remakes of remakes that could be problematic as I mentioned in my movie analogy. Short of that, if you feel a need for a remake I won't stand in your way. I'm a sucker for the old-school FFs as well and FOR ME, changing VI in particular doesn't seem necessary and seems TO ME like it would take away a large part of what I love about it. As I said in the other thread, VI is still gorgeous to me and I fear what a remake would do to its aesthetic. I don't particularly care for III's visual style and what little I've seen of in-game footage for IV.

But, again, if they do a remake, I'm certainly not indebted to buy it by any means.

Hynad
06-18-2007, 05:57 AM
Originally Posted by Knegative:
As I said in the other thread, VI is still gorgeous to me and I fear what a remake would do to its aesthetic.

... ... ...

But, again, if they do a remake, I'm certainly not indebted to buy it by any means.

That's exactly what you should do if they were going to remake FF VI and you don't like it's new art style, or game mechanics, or whatever. Stick to the version you prefer.

Still, FF VI had a really cinematic feel to it even on the SNES. So I think if they do it well, it might be interesting to see how more dramatic they can make the games cut scenes.

But other than graphics, I don't think there's much things to improve in FF VI. I give you that.

beat
06-18-2007, 06:13 AM
Isn't there a neutral perception of remakes? I mean, some people out there just take the world as it comes. Maybe a GameWhore? I probably am one of those as it seems that I don't mind at all if remakes come out or not. I don't understand why people get fed up when they hear that a remake is being made for one of their favorite games. You still have your original. It's like having an extra loaf of bread. Just don't eat it! Sure, you can still have your opinions whether it was a good or bad game. Just don't be like "OMG another f'n remake! Leave it alone!" You never know, it could be a good one.

I'm with Hynad on the thought of making remakes of remakes. That would be ridiculous. I doubt SE would do that though.

Hynad
06-18-2007, 10:08 AM
I didn't mean remakes of remakes. I meant that I don't think it would be a good thing if the only thing we'd get was remakes. And so far, there's a nice balance I think. What I think is great, is that younger gamers (those who got into gaming once the industry shifted to CGI cut scenes and real time 3D graphics) will get to play those games in a more eye catching way. I know it might sound retarded to some that this new breed of gamer might not want to play pre-PSX games because they think the graphics suck (heck, maybe even pre-PS2 games!) but I think it's about the same for everyone. I find it hard to come back to the Atari or Colecovision and get hooked on a game for more than 10 minutes. And this might be caused by the graphics or maybe the more simplified gameplay that can lack depths at time compared to modern games.

Remakes can improve old games to make them fit with today's games standards. While they might screw up in the process of remaking some games, other can turn up to be great improvements or at least feel just enough different in its own ways so it makes you feel like you're playing the same games you'd play anyways on the SNES (for example) but the added tough like better sound or graphics just makes the enjoyment of that game better.

In the end, I really enjoy re-exploring these games from new angles. There are so many games from the past that I'd like to see remakes of.

One of my all time most wanted remakes is Maniac Mansion. And I think anyone who loved that game should agree that a remake for this awesome game is long overdue.

LucasArt, get over Star Wars and come back to more original franchises. I WANT MANIAC MANSION REMADE BEFORE I FUCKIN DIE!!!


(It's late here ---5:15am--- so pardon me for getting carried away a little here.)

beat
06-18-2007, 05:19 PM
I play most games for story if not for gameplay. If it's a dated game then I am definitely open to the idea of a remake. Updated graphics and perhaps minor modifications to gameplay to make it better, not that it's necessary if the game already had good gameplay. For example I am glad that they are remaking some of the FF games. Some of those games could use some upgrades. I can't imagine how anyone could deny the fact that they want a graphical update. And again, if you dont' like the update. No buy .No play. Bash if you will after checking it out.

Lol. Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. I dunno why, but I found that game to be fun. I doubt that will ever be remade but that would be pretty awesome. I guess it doesn't have a big fan base though.

Neg
06-18-2007, 05:23 PM
I know Square prefers remaking and porting thier older games themselves, but I would like to see Mystic Quest on the Virtual Console. Maybe they'll let that one slide through :p

Maniac Mansion is also something that needs to hit the VC and soon. Sigh, I remember blowing that house up just for the hell of it. Again, and again, and again.

StarBeamAlpha
06-29-2007, 03:55 PM
This was Square's best idea ever.

Shumagaki
07-05-2007, 06:01 PM
I might go for an FF6/FF7 remake, and FF7 would be iffy. Any of the newer games would be a waste of time I think, since they were fairly well off graphically to begin with.

Actually, i'm sort of glad they have chosen to redo fairly unknown titles of the series that i've never played (FF3 and FF4.) If they had chosen to remake FF6, then i'd probably be forced to buy a DS to play it on.

JoSephiroth
07-06-2007, 12:59 AM
I don't mind a fresh coat of paint and more content with additional features. Square has ported their games on a couple of occasions, but despite that not everyone can get their hands on a copy of Final Fantasy I-VI.

Rayster
02-13-2008, 05:54 AM
I just don't get it why some people hate FFIV.

As a FF Fans I really love all of there games.

Especially FFIV - Story-Wise.

Valerie Valens
02-13-2008, 07:19 AM
I am neutral on the issue of remakes. I think that a remake is very well justified if there are significant improvements to be made, be it the gameplay, the game content or the ingame dialogue. Otherwise, they might as well just port the originals to the newer consoles. FFIII for example, it was a horrible grindfest when it was on the NES, and it still is on the DS remake.

mehrdadm
02-16-2008, 01:35 AM
Final Fantasy IV: The Beating of a Dead Horse.

So sad really. Square has no imagination left. :(