tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 05:33 AM
anybody, how do i get to the phase 2 dig in the henne mines.

look, i know i only got 1 out of 1000 chance of getting the Zodiac spear in there but, you see, i REALLY want one or possibly 99 (its actually possible) , but 1 would work for me

Agent0042
02-10-2007, 05:54 AM
Have you obtained ten espers yet?

Undead_Lives
02-10-2007, 08:46 AM
Agent is asking you if you're going for Zodiark. But if you just want the Zodiac spear, it's off of North Feywood. Good luck getting it.

BeneHaElohim
02-10-2007, 04:28 PM
I don't have ten espers yet, and when I enter the Phase 2 Shaft from the Feywood I can only get as far as the fork in the road - there is something in the way of each path that prevents me from proceeding. There is a gear icon on the area map for the western path though - any chance one of the switches from the other areas of the mine will open the path?

tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 05:58 PM
actually i have 9, but im in the crystal and just about to kill the ultima esper

tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 06:01 PM
I don't have ten espers yet, and when I enter the Phase 2 Shaft from the Feywood I can only get as far as the fork in the road - there is something in the way of each path that prevents me from proceeding. There is a gear icon on the area map for the western path though - any chance one of the switches from the other areas of the mine will open the path?

well, i dont think a switch would clear the path because theres no gate

Agent0042
02-10-2007, 06:19 PM
You need to have ten espers to get all the good stuff. Get Ultima if you haven't already, then talk to the Geomancer in Jahara. He'll says that a new path has been opened. Teleport to the Henne Mines and the new path that was opened will be just up ahead and to the right. Enjoy!

tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 08:01 PM
well, im in giruvegan but i cant find ultima anywhere

DeathShining
02-10-2007, 08:18 PM
I don't have ten espers yet, and when I enter the Phase 2 Shaft from the Feywood I can only get as far as the fork in the road - there is something in the way of each path that prevents me from proceeding. There is a gear icon on the area map for the western path though - any chance one of the switches from the other areas of the mine will open the path?

Theirs a switch in 'Pithead Junction C' that opens that gate, but you need to enter from 'ore seperation' to be able to reach it. If you open that gate you close of the route to Zodiark, and vice versa, its the red gate blue gate switch again like in 'Pithead Junction A' and 'Pithead Junction B'.

tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 08:19 PM
where he's talking about theres no gait to open there

Agent0042
02-10-2007, 09:15 PM
tiberius - Ultima is about impossible to find without looking at a walkthrough.

tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 09:49 PM
well im pretty sure im just about to find him,almost positive,i just have to get to the last teleport thing

tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 09:50 PM
without anything close to a walk through

tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 10:36 PM
any tips on ultima

tiberiusking
02-10-2007, 10:36 PM
she keeps using holyja and all that crap, and i cant use healing half the time

BeneHaElohim
02-10-2007, 11:00 PM
any tips on ultima

Here's a tip - quit multi-posting :-P


Theirs a switch in 'Pithead Junction C' that opens that gate, but you need to enter from 'ore seperation' to be able to reach it. If you open that gate you close of the route to Zodiark, and vice versa, its the red gate blue gate switch again like in 'Pithead Junction A' and 'Pithead Junction B'.

Thanks Death...I'm guessing it's a long shot without the ten espers but I'll give it a go sometime this weekend.

Agent0042
02-11-2007, 01:19 AM
What Bene is trying to tell you is that you can edit a previous post if you have something else to add. Posting four messages in a row is ridiculous.


Congrats on finding Ultima without use of a walkthrough. General tips? Obviously, heal whenever your HP even seems like it's starting to fall low. Of course, you want to keep the best protectives statuses on at all times --- Bubble, Protect, Shell, Bravery, Faith, etc. Ultima uses a number of Magick fields --- drain HP, drain MP, seal attack command. Customize your strategy based on what field is being used at the time. Obviously don't bother using Ethers when your MP is being drained, heal quickly when HP is being drained and when she seals Attack, that might be a good time to switch to Quickenings.

tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 05:12 AM
i beat her so dont worry about tips
it took a few tries but i beat her

Hynad
02-11-2007, 08:38 AM
I also found her without a walkthrough, but I had to draw maps of the dungeon. I got tired of getting lost in this dungeon!

Agent0042
02-11-2007, 08:42 AM
There are just so many gates and stuff to open and most of them are on timers and stuff, plus you get swarmed by monsters trying to make it in time.

Hynad
02-11-2007, 08:53 AM
I remember the first time I got there. I was overwhelmed by all the Reapers and Necrophobes that were respawning endlessly.

DeathShining
02-11-2007, 11:29 AM
Here's a tip - quit multi-posting :-P



Thanks Death...I'm guessing it's a long shot without the ten espers but I'll give it a go sometime this weekend.

No sorry if i did'nt explain to good, but you actually need 10 espers before you can even get to that switch at 'Pithead junction C', because the entrance from 'ore seperation' is the entrance the gariff opens for you after the 10 espers. I know you said you only had 9 espers, i was just saying that you can actually open that gate from the other side.

BeneHaElohim
02-11-2007, 02:44 PM
Gotcha, thanks. Guess I'll have to go after Ultima soon then.

tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 03:18 PM
if youre going for ultima watch out for holyja,it hurt 4500-5500 against me

tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 03:25 PM
Of course, you want to keep the best protectives statuses on at all times --- Bubble, Protect, Shell, Bravery, Faith, etc. Ultima uses a number of Magick fields.

i never saw the point in those status effects so i never use them.. except bubble, bubble's awesome.

tenn77
02-11-2007, 04:04 PM
Of course, you want to keep the best protectives statuses on at all times --- Bubble, Protect, Shell, Bravery, Faith, etc. Ultima uses a number of Magick fields.

i never saw the point in those status effects so i never use themso is easy to do without cheat guide or is it hard to get ?

forevercloud
02-11-2007, 06:03 PM
The fight is easy to do without the guide. I did it all on my own. You're going to have a lot of trouble getting there if you don't find a map of the area first online somewhere. Basically the fight switches between hp drain, mp drain, no magicks, no attacks, no items, and no technicks from what I remember. I did not know this ahead of time but still won in my first attempt. Bring a white mask and you should be ok, as it absorbs holy magick.

tiberiusking
02-11-2007, 08:38 PM
The fight is easy to do without the guide. I did it all on my own. You're going to have a lot of trouble getting there if you don't find a map of the area first online somewhere. Basically the fight switches between hp drain, mp drain, no magicks, no attacks, no items, and no technicks from what I remember. I did not know this ahead of time but still won in my first attempt. Bring a white mask and you should be ok, as it absorbs holy magick.

where could i find a white mask, I beat her without one, and without that map, but where is a white mask

forevercloud
02-11-2007, 11:54 PM
They can be bought in Balfonheim Port for 14,500 gil.

tiberiusking
02-12-2007, 03:48 AM
if youve read what this used to be, pay no attention to it, i was being stupid.

BeneHaElohim
02-17-2007, 03:26 AM
...you have to have the diamond armlet to get the Zodiac spear in the Henne Mines

Not the topic of my post, but some input I've gathered: I've read in other threads that the Diamond Armlet actually hurts your chances of getting the spear in the Henne Mines - cannot confirm, but it's worth researching before spending hours trying to acquire it.

My question is: what level should my characters be at, and are there any key spells/techniks/espers that I should have before taking on Ultima? (since there's a discussion about him/her here).

Typically I'm overlevelled for most feats but that's just b/c I screw around too much before advancing in the story. From what I've read, Ultima isn't part of the story, but I'm going to advance through Giruvegan shortly where I believe Shemhazai (sp?) and Ultima are located (which would put me at 10 espers), so I'm curious what the recommendations are. Thanks!

Revaninja
02-17-2007, 03:32 AM
I was level 50 or so and she was decent at that level so if you can beat the game good chance you can win aganist Ultima. You can't get Ultima on your first Giruvegan though you have to finish Giruvegan then come back.

BeneHaElohim
02-18-2007, 03:17 PM
Good to know, thanks - can you come back and get Ultima directly after finishing Giruvegan, or are you pulled away somewhere else first?

Revaninja
02-18-2007, 07:12 PM
When you finish Giruvegan the Portal you used to meet with Giruvegan's masters trying not to spoil use it again and it will teleport you back outside where you can easily retrace to the Giruvegan Gate cyrstal. You are supposue to go to the Port at Balofheim or however it is spelled but as soon as you get the Treaty Blade rom Giruvegan's masters you can go back and open the locked area. When exploring the Great cyrstal in Giruvegan there is to the right of where you enter a switch that says 'only those with permission from my master may pass' or something along that line. That is the switch you want to hit. Go to Gamefaq some one has drawn some decent Maps of the lower great cyrstal areas to help you out.
Though you might want to go to the Port because you get a Guest character Reddas who is a VERY good ally for some Boss fights though Mark hunting is a little iffy with him.

Agent0042
02-18-2007, 08:32 PM
I didn't use maps, I just used a detailed set of instructions here at GameFAQs. They were very good, they described exactly what directions to go in and which gates to unlock at what time and which Way Stones to use. I still got lost a couple times, but I got situated quickly enough and was soon fighting Ultima.

tiberiusking
02-19-2007, 05:14 PM
i didnt use anything to help me find ultima, and i hardly got lost at all, and before you go too ultima get the white mask like they said up there, i went in without one and it was horrible, but i killed her after 3 tries.

Revaninja
02-19-2007, 07:02 PM
I stink at directions usually as well as I was trying to get Excalibur on my trip so the Map was my way to go. Though Emphazie on TRYING for the Excalibur 3 hours and Nadda.

A good trick for Ultima is the Gambit system as said before when she switches the fields blocking something she will stop all magic or items a way to wiggle around that is have Magic healing gambited then right below it Item Healing gambited on Ally how many % you want I suggest 60% just because of how cheap she can be. Well Since Magic is set before Item they will Heal first with Magic but when Magic is blocked they will use items to heal without you having to change a dime. It doesn't really help just makes the game less worisome when you need to heal and Magic is blocked and you got to do it Manually.