About 4 and a half hours ago, which was 4 hours before the 'official' launch. Which means I've put off connecting to WiiConnect24 for 4 hours (in case I get the store I bought it off in trouble for breaking street date for me), but I'm currently updating my console, which brings me here.

So far:

Wii Sports: A lot more fun that I thought it would be, but I sprained my shoulder playing tennis. Yes, I know you can just use wrist movements, but where is the fun in that?

Wii Play: Crap, but for $10, what do you expect? The neat Table Tennis/Pong makes it worth the purchase.

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: I still suck at Zelda. I MUST PERSERVERE THOUGH.

Also: people who I like, PM me their friend codes so our Miis can get jiggy with it.

Awesome

With any luck, I'll be able to get my Wii connected soon, so I'm hoping to see Lii's Mii pretty soon!

Zelda update:

Now that I finally have a sword and am out of Ordon Village, the game is 10 million times better.

Stupid cat.

Indeed with the stupid cat. It took me a while to figure out that you have to pull up on the controller to hook the fish. I'll pm you my code later.

I didn't figure that out for quite a while longer. I just lucked into catching them that time.

Oh man, i should be getting mine Sunday evening. :D

Can`t

Fooking

Wait

~

I am buying a Wii in a few hours. Probably.

We're probably getting one for Christmas.

It literally took me hours to figure out how to actually get a fish, but the game gets alot better later on.

Does anyone know if Call of Duty is worth checking out?

I've heard that both Call of Duty and Far Cry: Vengeance are 'OK'.

I'm going to pick up whichever one has split-screen multiplayer (if either) for the satisfaction of REAL headshots vs. friends.

Prak rented Call of Duty 3, so you should ask him what he thought about it.

I'm getting one Friday. Not sure what games i'll get yet.

I'm never getting the Wii.

Zelda update: just finished the first temple.

Temple cool, boss easy.

I just got to the first temple. I am super sick so I can't play for long before my nose blocks up and I start coughing and I feel like sleeping.

I am a loser at using the sword though D; , I keep going to press a and when that doesn't work I press b and pull out my sling shot or something ;_;.

I just got to the first temple. I am super sick so I can't play for long before my nose blocks up and I start coughing and I feel like sleeping.

I am a loser at using the sword though D; , I keep going to press a and when that doesn't work I press b and pull out my sling shot or something ;_;.
Rofl

My wii code is 6593 3577 5413 0296

PEOPLE ADD ME

I am a loser at using the sword though D; , I keep going to press a and when that doesn't work I press b and pull out my sling shot or something ;_;.

Just Z-target all the time; that way when you press A, you'll do a jump attack and do double damage anyway. And spin attack (Shake the nunchuck) whenever you can.

Is the Wii really worth it?

I normally just try it out at a friend's place then actually decide if it's worth buying.

Is the Wii really worth it?

I normally just try it out at a friend's place then actually decide if it's worth buying.
If I get really excited when the Wii disc drive glows blue for an extended period of time, then yes.

I'm getting one Friday. Not sure what games i'll get yet.

Have you pre-ordered? Apparently they will be almost impossible to find if you haven't. At least that's the situation in the UK, but I don't see why it would be much different in da Republic.

Also: I probably won't get a Wii for a couple of months. The console looks great and everything it's just not a huge pile of the games interest me right now. ~Super Smash Bros. Brawl~ yeah!

I'll put my code up when I get home, but yes, the Wii is totally worthwhile.

Is there any way to make the disc drive glow for an unlimited amount of time, or does it just glow when games go in, out, and load?

i've pre-ordered and i still have to wait until next week -_-

I'll put my code up/add smokey soon when I get around to it.


Temple cool, boss easy.

Totally sums up the game.


Yesterday I started my 3-hearts challenge file and beat the first dungeon in 2 hours. I wonder how fast I'm also trying to see how fast I can go through the game with this 3-heart run. :p

I'll put my code up/add smokey soon when I get around to it.
Get around to it!

Why do the temples and bosses get easier the further you progress through TP?

Why do the temples and bosses get easier the further you progress through TP?

Because they're all around the same difficulty, but you keep gaining more hearts.

I picked up my Wii at about 10pm on the 6th, so I felt a bit naughty too... but I phoned ahead and they told me they didn't give a shit (gotta love that aussie laid back style). So yeah, I jumped in a picked one up... the store was very sparsely populated at the time, which really surprised me.

I picked up a few extra peripherals for starters, to make sure the princess and I both had what we needed to mess around with each other in wii-goodness, and then I hit the shelves to snag some titles.

I decided to get The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. Its my first ever Zelda game, and it was hailed as the Wii's launch killer app, so fair enough I thought. I quite like it, the princess absolutely loves it, and it was definetly a good buy.

Wii Sports is just great fun. End of story. Its one of those titles that will suppliment a party nicely. But I just know that either me or the princess is going to break something as the controller flies out of our swinging limbs.

In the end I also decided to get Red Steel as well, and thus far its quite enjoyable and holds its own, which is lucky because I had no idea of its existance until I saw it on the shelf, so it was a bit of a gamble.

To top it all off, the guy at the counter threw in Wii Play for absolutely nothing... so as a free title it does just fine :-).

One thing that, alas, ruins my Wii experience ever-so-slightly is the fact that we don't have our ADSL internet connection anymore. Its bad enough we trying and maintain a network with one desktop and two laptops off a dial-up connection... but at least the option is there for us to do that regardless of how stupid it is. The Wii prerequisite of a broadband connection means we're offline for now. Maybe for Christmas I'll look into getting us both an ADSL2+ connection.

Anyway, two thumbs way up for Nintendo's Wii.

One bad side effect of playing the Wii:

I'm generally a rather unfit person, and i've spent the last two days playing hours and hours of Wii Sports (because it's more crowd friendly than Zelda, being multiplayer and all).

At the moment, I am in pain. I have muscles aching in my arms and back that I didn't even know I had.

Which is bad, because everyone has finally left me alone so I can play more Zelda (i'm halfway through the Goron Mines), and I can't bring myself to play because it freaking hurts too much to do a Shield Charge.

Here's my Wii Number: 4587 0910 2013 3742.

Ok, has anyone else here experienced really slow updating times and such? I remember I did two updates after I first got the Wii. I usually can never connect to the Wii Shop Channel because of some error code or something. And I went to my internet settings thing and did the 'connect to the internet and perform a Wii System update' or whatever. I'm hoping whatever this update is fixes my slow loading and such. But even the update is taking a very long time :(

so game called me the day before the release and it turned out they actually got an extra shipment in or whatever and i was just about able to get one on the launch date. =D however they were sold out of zelda, but my friend and i split up and she went to somewhere else to be there for the 9 o clock launch where it was first come first served, so i got zelda as well! so win!



I'm generally a rather unfit person, and i've spent the last two days playing hours and hours of Wii Sports (because it's more crowd friendly than Zelda, being multiplayer and all).

At the moment, I am in pain. I have muscles aching in my arms and back that I didn't even know I had.


haha i have the same thing going on =/ also wii sports keeps telling me that there is a pause function and that i could go outside if i really wanted to. and it shows you the window and the wiimote lying ON THE TABLE. i thought that was hilarious. we were playing pretty much non stop from 7am til 12 the next day, at which point i moved houses, but there were about 12 people around at different points in the day, the living room was packed. great fun.

also had fun designing mean mii's of people we dislike because lol.

ALSO got wii play as well on account of wanting the second remote. isnt "find mii" (or something like that) the absolute worst game ever conceived of in the history of... everything?

i'm currently only on the first dungeon in zelda but i havent played it much. monkeys and that, right. actually the first one surprised me, didnt know i was in it until i got the map. sort of a stealth dungeon =(

smokey my updates seem pretty speedy. going to check out the shop channel thing soon yay. and i will post that wii number thingy later as well.

EDIT: the shopping channel music is lol.

Whenever I try to send a message to someone the button is all grayed out. It says we need to register one another and configure our internet settings. It doesn't give me a chance to send a registration message to the person, so I'm kind of stumped as to what I can do. Any ideas?

EDIT: I'm trying to send a message to someone with a Wii. If it makes any difference.

Whenever I try to send a message to someone the button is all grayed out. It says we need to register one another and configure our internet settings. It doesn't give me a chance to send a registration message to the person, so I'm kind of stumped as to what I can do. Any ideas?

EDIT: I'm trying to send a message to someone with a Wii. If it makes any difference.
You need to register someone else's Wii number into your Wii, and the other person needs to do the same thing. I know for the first few hours, it didn't work for Raidenex and I. But now things are smooth with it and we can send each other messages.

UPDATE: Ok, now my Wii won't even connect to the fucking internet anymore. I turned off the Wii during one of those Internet System updates because it froze about 75% through =/

A couple people I know are having trouble with slow updates and other screwy stuff with sending messages and stuff, smokey.

I haven't tried yet though. I will try eventually but I gotta set up all this stuff for it to work and I don't really want to :(.


Post codes later maybe if you're lucky, probably not though.

A couple people I know are having trouble with slow updates and other screwy stuff with sending messages and stuff, smokey.

I haven't tried yet though. I will try eventually but I gotta set up all this stuff for it to work and I don't really want to :(.


Post codes later maybe if you're lucky, probably not though.
My problem isn't with sending messages at all apparently. I mean, I don't know if the Wii has to be connected to Wiiconnect24 to send and receive messages; the only problem I've noticed is it takes a while to send and receive them.

I updated the Wii to 2.0, which is apparently some type of parental control shit. But for the past day or two, I have never been able to access the Wii Shop Channel. I'd do a connection test; half the time it works, the other it fails. Then when it says I'm connected, I'd go to the Wii Shop Channel and it would either say I'm not connected to the internet, or I can't connect to the server. It got to the point where I actually said 'I'm tired of this piece of shit'. About a Nintendo product. :(

My Wii is glowing blue at the moment, so i'm assuming you got a message through Smokey.

I haven't had many connection problems, as such, but more connection slowness. It takes up to a minute, nearly two sometimes to actually load the Wii shop; I haven't tried downloading anything yet, but I hope this isn't indicative of what to expect.

It's pretty pathetic considering the Xbox Live Marketplace loads in a manner of seconds.

That's really weird. The maximum time I've had to wait for the Wii Shop has been something around 30-40 seconds.

BTW - One last question about sending and recieving messages. I've been sending messages from Wii to Wii, but how do you get a friend on their e-mail to register you?

That's really weird. The maximum time I've had to wait for the Wii Shop has been something around 30-40 seconds.

BTW - One last question about sending and recieving messages. I've been sending messages from Wii to Wii, but how do you get a friend on their e-mail to register you?

209601 is the Error Code I get often when I try to access the Wii Shop Channel. That, or I just can't connect to the internet at all. That Error Code reads 052032

Kalias: I'll add you to my Wii. And just have your friend register your Wii number on theirs as well.

According to all that I've read, there is no immediate way to fix the issue with the 209601 error code. It seem sto come and go. Mabye it'll be fixed with the next firmware update?

Are you sure that the other error code isn't 52032, without the first zero? If so, is your wireless router (that is assuming your ussing one, right?) on channel 1 or 11? I had the same error message because my router was set to channel 6.

Ok, cool. I hope this friend registration is faster than my last.

According to all that I've read, there is no immediate way to fix the issue with the 209601 error code. It seem sto come and go. Mabye it'll be fixed with the next firmware update?

Are you sure that the other error code isn't 52032, without the first zero? If so, is your wireless router (that is assuming your ussing one, right?) on channel 1 or 11? I had the same error message because my router was set to channel 6.

Ok, cool. I hope this friend registration is faster than my last.
Yeah, without the zero. This time the Error Code is 51330. It usually differs between a few different error codes =/

How do you change channels on the router?

The same applies to 51330 as 52032 I think. Luckily enough it seems like a software issue more than anything else.

And I'll have to check about the channels. If you're using a 192.168.1.1 I can probably help, but otherwise I'm clueless. And ftr I'm using a Westell router.

EDIT: I'm hoping that you have the 192.168.1.1 and know how to access it. If you can then click on the Configuration tab and click on Basic. If yours is like mine, then it will say Channel with a drop-down list box. You should have the option of changing to channel 1-11. I really hope this helps.

The same applies to 51330 as 52032 I think. Luckily enough it seems like a software issue more than anything else.

And I'll have to check about the channels. If you're using a 192.168.1.1 I can probably help, but otherwise I'm clueless. And ftr I'm using a Westell router.
Yes, mine is 192.168.1.1, and it's a Linksys wireless router.

If you can click on the Configuration tab and click on Basic. If yours is like mine, then it will say Channel with a drop-down list box. You should have the option of changing to channel 1-11. I really hope this helps.

EDIT: I can't help you anymore tonight, but I'll be back on sometime tomorrow.

If you can click on the Configuration tab and click on Basic. If yours is like mine, then it will say Channel with a drop-down list box. You should have the option of changing to channel 1-11. I really hope this helps.

EDIT: I can't help you anymore tonight, but I'll be back on sometime tomorrow.
Yeah I saw that, but I was told to not mess with more than one thing at once in case I mess up the router and forget how to switch things back.

Thanks for the help though, and add my Wii number to yours and see if we can send messages. :D

Hm, alright then. I succeeded with seven consecutive internet connection tests, and I finally got on the Wii Shop Channel again. So hopefully everything is good now.

Everyone, post your Wii numbers now.

BTW - One last question about sending and recieving messages. I've been sending messages from Wii to Wii, but how do you get a friend on their e-mail to register you?

When you register an e-mail address, your Wii emails a confirmation message to them; when they reply to that message, their address is registered.

It would be a lot easier if Wii-to-Wii registration was the same process =/

Hell, it would be a lot easier if they just used a system like Xbox Live and forgot about 'friend codes' altogether.

I got my Wii with Wii Sports and Zelda today.

Let me just ask a quick question-did i die and go to heaven?

I`ve made my Mii and hoped online but i couldn`t find anyone though. :s

<3

Any recommendations for Virtual Console downloads? I've already got Legend of Zelda, F-Zero, and Bonks Adventure (all of which I am loving). I only have 100 points left, but I'll probably get some more later.

got super mario 64, sonic the hedgehog and donkey kong country, which i actually havent played before but im too busy with zelda right now to play them haha. playing sm64 again should be fun.

really looking forward to ristar but i dont see it in the shop yet =D

Wii's FPS will suck balls just because in order to aim you will have to constantly extend yr arm towards the screen which will be tiring after a while

Damn, I want a Wii so bad. But due to lack of money, I will not be getting one until around March.

=[

Wii's FPS will suck balls just because in order to aim you will have to constantly extend yr arm towards the screen which will be tiring after a while

no you won't. you can keep your arm prone while using the wiimote. you do not have to extend it (on the basis of aiming in tp anyways, seeing as i can do that lying down in bed). thats a pretty piss poor reason to decry the possibility of quality fps's on wii, haha.

my wii number is
4769 5722 3520 2503

add me and i will add you etc

got super mario 64, sonic the hedgehog and donkey kong country, which i actually havent played before but im too busy with zelda right now to play them haha. playing sm64 again should be fun.

really looking forward to ristar but i dont see it in the shop yet =D
Donkey Kong Country is on Virtual Console? I thought it was just the arcade Donkey Kong.

And I was going to comment about Van Finel, but duo already beat me to it. I guess I'll just add that aiming in a FPS will be as simple as resting your hands on your lap, and just moving your wrist a little.

Grumble.

I'm trying to set up my Wii on internets but I keep getting errors on the connection test. I'll edit later or something if I get it working.

no you won't. you can keep your arm prone while using the wiimote. you do not have to extend it (on the basis of aiming in tp anyways, seeing as i can do that lying down in bed). thats a pretty piss poor reason to decry the possibility of quality fps's on wii, haha.


Okay so that was a weak defense.I'll try again. So far the Wii has made shit FPS titles for two reasons. The graphics are mediocre and and the controls were a pain in the ass making it hard to aim. Mainly the controls. This was the downfall of Red Steel. Even the Call of Duty series, which previously released the well-made Call of Duty 2 couldn't harnass the controls in Call of Duty 3, giving it a lower score against the other Call of Duty 3's.

(http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp) A credible review site that sums up the reviews of most all major reviews.

I see this trend continuing because the DS also had this trouble when it came to third party game makers making games for the DS, except the Wii is way more complex, control-wise. Not saying the Wii will never make a good FPS, I just think it won't come close to the XBOX 360 or PS2.

Not saying the Wii will never a good FPS, I just think it won't come close to the XBOX 360 or PS2.
I can't forgive myself for reading your entire post, but I was hoping you would redeem yourself at least near the end. Instead, the shit smell almost killed me.

I can't forgive myself for reading your entire post, but I was hoping you would redeem yourself at least near the end. Instead, the shit smell almost killed me.

Instead of writing this off as shit without explaining yourself. please, educate me

As far as I can tell, apart from okay graphics, Call of Duty 3 doesn't fall short at all. All of the aiming is essentialy seemless and the controls for grenade tossing and all are pretty intuitive. I haven't played Red Steel yet, but it is supposed to be pretty good apart from the momentary control glitches.

Okay so that was a weak defense.I'll try again. So far the Wii has made shit FPS titles for two reasons. The graphics are mediocre and and the controls were a pain in the ass making it hard to aim. Mainly the controls. This was the downfall of Red Steel. Even the Call of Duty series, which previously released the well-made Call of Duty 2 couldn't harnass the controls in Call of Duty 3, giving it a lower score against the other Call of Duty 3's.

(http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp) A credible review site that sums up the reviews of most all major reviews.

I see this trend continuing because the DS also had this trouble when it came to third party game makers making games for the DS, except the Wii is way more complex, control-wise. Not saying the Wii will never make a good FPS, I just think it won't come close to the XBOX 360 or PS2.

For starters, comparing games from different consoles based on the numbered rank is nearly impossible; when reviewers do a numbered ranking, they're basing it off comparisons to other games on the same console, or in a similar vein. The type of FPS we have seen on the Wii literally has nothing that we can compare it to.

Also, just because there hasn't been a fantastic FPS yet has nothing to do with the console. Red Steel was horribly flawed in many ways; poor graphics, broken level design, and horrible implementation of the sword fighting. Call of Duty 3 was considered inferior to Call of Duty 2 on every console where both were released, because CoD3 was designed by Treyarch, creators of CoD2:Big Red One, not the original CoD and CoD2 developers. The reviews of CoD3 marked it down because it was a port that had glitches and worse graphics than were necessary.

As anyone who has played a well implemented wii-mote pointer game can attest (the Bow in Zelda, the plunger-shooter in Rayman, or even the Duck Hunt in Wii Play), the pointer allows for a high accuracy and response rate than an analogue stick, almost on par with mouse control. All that is required is good implimentation, which will undoubtedly occur further down the line.

To prognosticate for a moment, i'd suggest that the first FPS to really pull off the control scheme on the Wii will be Metroid Prime 3, and that every FPS that comes after it will rip it off.

Also, just for the record, I don't know where you're getting this bullshit about the DS having trouble with third party developers. If you haven't noticed, the console is trouncing the PSP in sales all around the world, and you don't get that sort of success without third-party support.

Okay so that was a weak defense.I'll try again. So far the Wii has made shit FPS titles for two reasons.

Afaik the wii has two fps titles currently available for it. Your argument makes about as much sense as stating the battle arena toshinden is a pile of crap, then concluding that all beat 'em up's on the playstation must be bad.


The graphics are mediocre

Irrelevant.


the controls were a pain in the ass making it hard to aim. Mainly the controls.

Really? And is this the reason given in each and every review averaged by game reviews? Is it possible that there's some other reason they have docked the wii versions points? Hmm.


This was the downfall of Red Steel.

The downfall of Red Steel is the fact that it's not a great game. It's pretty average. It's a title rushed out the door to cash in on launch day. imo.


Even the Call of Duty series, which previously released the well-made Call of Duty 2 couldn't harnass the controls in Call of Duty 3, giving it a lower score against the other Call of Duty 3's.

Alright. Let's have a look on game reviews.


Call of Duty 3 is a great showcase for the Wii’s unique control scheme.

They don't seem to mind the controls over there. Apparently it was marked less because of inferior sound (^_~) and gameplay (presumably wii's lack of multiplayer)


After spending a short amount of time with the controls, I have come to the conclusion that this is in fact the best first-person shooter control scheme currently available on the console.



Pros :
Cool control scheme


It brings a new motion-controlled mechanic to the game, and it works brilliantly.


beyond proving that the Wii's controls can handle first person shooters, it doesn't hold up as anything but yet another middling World War II shooter.

Not the controls, apparently. Just the game.


the game controls extremely well on the Wii controller. In fact, the first-person controls are the best yet on the system.


Once I found the inversion controls (you have to back out to the root of the game to set this particular option) I was suddenly having a whole different experience. I popped four Nazi helmets off of their perch without a moments hesitation. After I had completed the first mission, I was almost as accurate as I was with the 360 or PS3 control scheme. This is a testament to the organic nature of the Wii controls.


The Good: Once you learn them, the basic controls work well

A lot of the reviewers seemed to find there was a high learning curve, but that they were actually extremely intuitive when you became accustomed to them. Certainly, pointing to gamerankings, telling us the average rating is lower and saying it must mean the control scheme is bad for these 2 games and will be for every other wii fps is silly to say the least. If anything the Wii version (of CoD 3) seemed to lose marks more for lack of multiplayer and comparatively poor graphics than because of bad controls. And even the reviewers who made negative points about the wii controls usually balanced this with some positive remarks as well. It seems unlikely that, considering the basic advantages most people seem to see in the wiimote system, these will not be ironed out in many future titles.

But it's all up in the air right now. It is far too early to say the wii will definitely have poor FPS's when, a) they have shown some promise so far despite the bad and b) the control system is so different and it may take devlopers an amount of time to come up with the optimum control scheme.


I see this trend continuing because the DS also had this trouble when it came to third party game makers making games for the DS, except the Wii is way more complex, control-wise.

To develop for? Wouldn't mind some proof. Even if this is so, PS3 and XBox360 titles cost a lot more to develop. The Wii is in an unusual position.


Not saying the Wii will never make a good FPS, I just think it won't come close to the XBOX 360 or PS2.

I don't know. I don't think there's much to go on just yet.

For starters, comparing games from different consoles based on the numbered rank is nearly impossible;

It's very possible to a certain extent. Fail.


Also, just because there hasn't been a fantastic FPS yet has nothing to do with the console. Red Steel was horribly flawed in many ways; poor graphics, broken level design, and horrible implementation of the sword fighting. Call of Duty 3 was considered inferior to Call of Duty 2 on every console where both were released, because CoD3 was designed by Treyarch, creators of CoD2:Big Red One, not the original CoD and CoD2 developers. The reviews of CoD3 marked it down because it was a port that had glitches and worse graphics than were necessary.

Your comment on Red steel helped saved me time on countering swedish Fish's comment. Another critical flaw people said about this game was it's poor controls. I never compared Cod 2 to CoD 3


As anyone who has played a well implemented wii-mote pointer game can attest (the Bow in Zelda, the plunger-shooter in Rayman, or even the Duck Hunt in Wii Play), the pointer allows for a high accuracy and response rate than an analogue stick, almost on par with mouse control. All that is required is good implimentation, which will undoubtedly occur further down the line.

Notice i said third party game makers. moving on


To prognosticate for a moment, i'd suggest that the first FPS to really pull off the control scheme on the Wii will be Metroid Prime 3, and that every FPS that comes after it will rip it off.

agreed.


Also, just for the record, I don't know where you're getting this bullshit about the DS having trouble with third party developers. If you haven't noticed, the console is trouncing the PSP in sales all around the world, and you don't get that sort of success without third-party support.

Again, please read before you say stupid shit. Notice i was refering to the third party game makers trying to make use of the touch screen since nintendo always focus's on creativity rather than graphics, thus me saying "except the Wii is way more complex, control-wise" at the end of the sentence. The DS encouraged games to use it's touch screen and most of the games that tried failed. The difference between the DS and and the Wii is that you are forced to use the Wii remote and you are not forced to use the touch screen. Most of the DS's best games made little use of the touch screen.

EDIT: I will deal with one arguement at a time. I will comeback to yours later if i feel up to it, udo

It's very possible to a certain extent. Fail.

If you're an idiot who trusts other people to make their decisions for them, sure. I'm willing to bet that if you've even played a FPS on the Wii, you probably haven't taken the time to get to know it as well as reviewers do.


Your comment on Red steel helped saved me time on countering swedish Fish's comment. Another critical flaw people said about this game was it's poor controls. I never compared Cod 2 to CoD 3



Even the Call of Duty series, which previously released the well-made Call of Duty 2 couldn't harnass the controls in Call of Duty 3, giving it a lower score against the other Call of Duty 3's.

Don't contradict yourself. Your fanboyism idiocy is showing. Also, udo pointed out the reasons why CoD3 got a lower score on the Wii (graphics and lack of multiplayer).


Notice i said third party game makers. moving on

Rayman Raving Rabbids is made by Ubisoft (a, shock-horror, third party developer). If they had Michael Ancel consulting on Red Steel, it probably would have been a better game.


agreed.

If you agree with me on this, then why did you state this (which is, by the way, the only reason people are arguing with you?):



Not saying the Wii will never make a good FPS, I just think it won't come close to the XBOX 360 or PS2.

It seems ridiculous to even compare these three consoles, considering that none of them have a top class console FPS.


Again, please read before you say stupid shit. Notice i was refering to the third party game makers trying to make use of the touch screen since nintendo always focus's on creativity rather than graphics, thus me saying "except the Wii is way more complex, control-wise" at the end of the sentence. The DS encouraged games to use it's touch screen and most of the games that tried failed. The difference between the DS and and the Wii is that you are forced to use the Wii remote and you are not forced to use the touch screen. Most of the DS's best games made little use of the touch screen.

I'm interested to know what you consider the DS' best games, if you make a statement like this. Just off the top of my head, top-class DS games that make extensive use of the touch screen are Super Mario 64 DS, Metroid Prime: Hunters, Nintendogs, Tetris DS, Phoenix Wright, Trauma Center, Cooking Mama, Brain Age, WarioWare Touch... the list goes on. Even games that don't make extensive use of the touch screen in actual game play (like New. Super Mario Bros) have multiplayer mini-games that exclusively use the touch screen. And games that don't use the touch screen for a control use it for other reasons: for example, in Mario Kart DS, the mini-map on the touch screen is essential to gameplay.

In fact, i'm struggling to think of any decent DS game that doesn't make use of the touch screen or dual screen in some innovative way.

If you're an idiot who trusts other people to make their decisions for them, sure. I'm willing to bet that if you've even played a FPS on the Wii, you probably haven't taken the time to get to know it as well as reviewers do.

Fail again for making assumptions backed on nothing.



Don't contradict yourself. Your fanboyism idiocy is showing. Also, udo pointed out the reasons why CoD3 got a lower score on the Wii (graphics and lack of multiplayer).

You really are a dumbfuck. Do you even know the definition of fanboy? Again idiot, i merely stated Cod 2 was well-made I didn't compare it to anything. Just because i mentioned Cod 3 in the same sentence as CoD 2 does not mean they are compared. Moving on.




If you agree with me on this, then why did you state this (which is, by the way, the only reason people are arguing with you?):

"Not saying the Wii will never make a good FPS, I just think it won't come close to the XBOX 360 or PS2."

I already stated that Wii will probably come out with a good FPS. Just because people try to copy metroid 3 doesn't mean it will turn out well. For example many games have tried to rip GTA off and have failed.


It seems ridiculous to even compare these three consoles, considering that none of them have a top class console FPS.

Ps3- Resistance: Fall of Man
Xbox 360- G.R.A.W.


I'm interested to know what you consider the DS' best games, if you make a statement like this. Just off the top of my head, top-class DS games that make extensive use of the touch screen are Super Mario 64 DS, Metroid Prime: Hunters, Nintendogs, Tetris DS, Phoenix Wright, Trauma Center, Cooking Mama, Brain Age, WarioWare Touch... the list goes on. Even games that don't make extensive use of the touch screen in actual game play (like New. Super Mario Bros) have multiplayer mini-games that exclusively use the touch screen. And games that don't use the touch screen for a control use it for other reasons: for example, in Mario Kart DS, the mini-map on the touch screen is essential to gameplay.

Ok first off i said third party games. Second you don't explain how you thought the game well incorporated the touch screen into the actual gameplay. Mini games dont count, sorry.


In fact, i'm struggling to think of any decent DS game that doesn't make use of the touch screen or dual screen in some innovative way.

Yet I can think of so many.


The first couple paragraphs have led me to the conclusion that you are an illiterate dumbfuck. I see your attempting to make some sort of point in your comments but you fail terribly. Congrats, you have made my ignore list, meaning all further comments from you will be ignored. I will now move to replying to Udo

Fail again for making assumptions backed on nothing.




You really are a dumbfuck. Do you even know the definition of fanboy? Again idiot, i merely stated Cod 2 was well-made I didn't compare it to anything. Just because i mentioned Cod 3 in the same sentence as CoD 2 does not mean they are compared. Moving on.





"Not saying the Wii will never make a good FPS, I just think it won't come close to the XBOX 360 or PS2."

I already stated that Wii will probably come out with a good FPS. Just because people try to copy metroid 3 doesn't mean it will turn out well. For example many games have tried to rip GTA off and have failed.



Ps3- Resistance: Fall of Man
Xbox 360- G.R.A.W.



Ok first off i said third party games. Second do explain how you thought the game well incorporated the touch screen into the actual gameplay. Mini games dont count, sorry.



Yet I can think of so many.


The first couple paragraphs have led me to the conclusion that you are an illiterate dumbfuck. I see your attempting to make some sort of point in your comments but you fail terribly. Congrats, you have made my ignore list, meaning all further comments from you will be ignored. I will now move to replying to Udo

FAIL.



is this how you are meant to win arguments because i'm not sure. I hope it is.

FAILFAIL


FAIL.

also:


The first couple paragraphs have led me to the conclusion that you are an illiterate dumbfuck. I see your attempting to make some sort of point in your comments but you fail terribly.

The first couple paragraphs have led me to the conclusion that you are an illiterate dumbfuck. I see your attempting to make some sort of point in your comments but you fail terribly. Congrats, you have made my ignore list, meaning all further comments from you will be ignored. I will now move to replying to Udo
Haha, putting someone on a forum ignore list is the ultimate, pre-school way of saying WAAAAH IM GETTING RAPED UP THE ASS ILL IGNORE YOU NOW YOU BIG MEANIE.

Seriously, not a single person here will agree with anything you remotely say. So who's the illiterate dumbfuck now?

Haha, putting someone on a forum ignore list is the ultimate, pre-school way of saying WAAAAH IM GETTING RAPED UP THE ASS ILL IGNORE YOU NOW YOU BIG MEANIE.

Seriously, not a single person here will agree with anything you remotely say. So who's the illiterate dumbfuck now?

Still you. you fail to back up any points. you just bitch. I really see theres no educating you so i'm finished with this thread and moving. To write back would make you seem like an idiot considering it will not be heard. lol


WAAAAH IM A NINTENDO FANBOY WHO CAN'T HANDLE SOMEONE INSULTING MY SYSTEM BECAUSE IF NINTENDO GOES OUT OF BUSINESS, I WON'T BE ABLE TO JACK OFF TO PICTURES OF SAMUS ANYMORE

Fix'd :)

Still you. you fail to back up any points. you just bitch. I really see theres no educating you so i'm finished with this thread and moving. To write back would make you seem like an idiot considering it will not be heard. lol
FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL.

The reason I didn't respond earlier is because I knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you were going to respond with even more bullshit. I would be wasting my time with you, because you're just some guy in the world who likes to tell himself crap like that over and over again, and hopes it will become true. You don't see the facts that other people present right in front of your face, so you just say 'oh this point sucks. FAIL. oh that point is wrong. FAIL.' Here's something for you. You fail. How about that? You fail at life, you fail at everything.

Now you see how utterly retarded it is to use the LOL YOU FAIL excuse to cower away from points that are so clearly more factual than yours.

Van Finel, you're the one who fails to back up their points. You look like a bit of an idiot to everyone. Sorry.

(Fail?)

Also, it's kind of cute how you consider PS3 and 360 to be the pinnacle of FPS goodness. ;B i would say wii developers are setting their sights pretty low if they only aim to outdo PS3/360 FPS games. =)

Still waiting for Van Finel to pull the powder that was his dignity out from under Duo's post and attempt a comeback.

TK CHANGE MY NAME TO GORON RIGHT THIS SECOND



please.

I played Resistance: Fall of Man yesterday and its control scheme is completley unintuitive, impossible to aim well with, and is the epitome of fail. So I guess Van Fine's whole argument is fail.

failfailfailfailfail

You know, sometimes it's so hard not to ban people for personal reasons ;_;

Also, chewey, do you want your name changed to goron, Goron, or GORON?

Edit: Can someone explain to Van Finel that Phoenix Wright and Trauma Center aren't first party games, and for him to tell me all these 'awesome' DS games that don't use the touch screen?

Edit 2: I could just change his ignore list. That would be more fun.

Goron !



failfail so not one word post

Just popping in to add to the "Van Finel is a fuckwit" chorus. Others have already proved it, so I won't bother.

wii don't have suikoden need it to be elite imo

my wii number: 1653 5904 7400 2066

I added smokey and duo already

YOU GUYS BETTER HAVE YOUR MIIS SET TO MINGLE OR ELSE I'LL BE SAD

I haven't been able to get the Mii Plaza working yet =/

The only way i've been able to exchange Miis is in the mail.

SMOKEY IS IN MY WII STEALING MY CATTLE

Agent Neville, what exactly does the Mingle feature do? And I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Lee, there's a point to the Mii Plaza? Is that the place where all the Mii's just walk around, or where random Mii's inhabit your Wii?

the mii plaza is where all your ones stand around and chat i think. the pardaey place is somewhere else. yeah.

bah...

Agent Neville, what exactly does the Mingle feature do? And I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Lee, there's a point to the Mii Plaza? Is that the place where all the Mii's just walk around, or where random Mii's inhabit your Wii?


Mingle feature is something you choose when making/editing a Mii. It's on the same screen as name and favorite color and stuff.

Mii Plaza is where you see your Miis. In the upper right, there's a button to go to Mii Parade.

Mii Parade, assuming you have at least one Mii set to mingle and the travel settings there set to "Travel", and assuming you have a friend set up the same way and registered, will then, have Miis set to mingle from your friend's system to visit yours.

So it's a way to see what other people are making, and then you can drag those Miis and copy them to your system, if you like them. It's a really neat idea, and I wish it didn't require registering, cause that kinda ruins it. Still, I'd like to have it work for my friends at least.

Mingle feature is something you choose when making/editing a Mii. It's on the same screen as name and favorite color and stuff.

Mii Plaza is where you see your Miis. In the upper right, there's a button to go to Mii Parade.

Mii Parade, assuming you have at least one Mii set to mingle and the travel settings there set to "Travel", and assuming you have a friend set up the same way and registered, will then, have Miis set to mingle from your friend's system to visit yours.

So it's a way to see what other people are making, and then you can drag those Miis and copy them to your system, if you like them. It's a really neat idea, and I wish it didn't require registering, cause that kinda ruins it. Still, I'd like to have it work for my friends at least.
Yeah, I went to the Mii parade and I saw one or two friends' Mii's on there, but there were other ones that I had no clue who they belonged to.

also: lol @ the mike kid

i got mii a wii, special thanks to Professor Nintendo Head for being so dam helpful. but anyway, i have a wii now.