Mr Jack
11-21-2006, 02:54 PM
Im stuck in FFVI.

It'll be the second time i have played the game and im pretty sure i had this problem before.

Am i missing something or is it extremely hard to get past the boss (where you first get Sabin) Because you need to use Sabin's special move and to do that, you need the code. To get the code, you need to have Sabin in your Party, but i have only just aquired Sabin and cannot yet access the menu while in battle to get the code!!!! hmmmphhh

Is this a reacurring problem or am i just overlooking one of the most easiest things in the game?!?

More to the point - does anybody have a clue what im talking about?!?

kurohime
11-21-2006, 03:23 PM
More to the point - does anybody have a clue what im talking about?!?

If I remember, the instructions for how to input the blitz appear in the dialogue box during the battle (I think Pummel is LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT). The other thing is that you also have to wait until Vargas wipes out the rest of your team and it's only Sabin and Vargas battling it out. You also can't Blitz until they actually mention that the Blitz ability is available.

One problem I remember having (yeah, Vargas gave me a headache, too) was that I wasn't entering the command in properly, so I kept dying when the doom thing killed me.

Anyway, once it's only Sabin in battle, you should have BLITZ in his commands. Select that, and the cursor should be pointing to Sabin, and in it's transparent/flashy "select mode" state. While it's like that, enter in the blitz command (LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT) and then hit X. Sabin should do the Blitz then.

Mr Jack
11-21-2006, 03:45 PM
thanx

but see...the problem i had was that i checked the dialogue boxes, and nowhere in the game does it tell you the code.

I checked in the manual, and it said that i needed to check it the menu and look at Sabin and it will tell me, but because i havent yet got him in my party, thats impossible.

Is this a bug in the game - FTR - im playing the PS1 version.

kurohime
11-21-2006, 04:36 PM
Ah... Hmm... by dialogue boxes, I mean the ones where the characters are actually speaking, in battle. Are we talking about the same box? While you're in battle with Vargas, the characters will start talking, and Sabin will should tell you what buttons to press to perform the proper Blitz in that battle.

You also won't see the codes in the menu until you actually level Sabin up enough so that he actually learns each Blitz, too. At the victory screen (when you're told if characters have levelled up, etc.) if Sabin learns a new Blitz, it'll also say "Sabin learned (such-n-such)" and then once you look in his menu, you'll see the code for the newly-learned Blitz.

I guess you're just not seeing it because 1) he's not in your party and 2) you also have to have leveled up to learn the Blitz before you can go into the menu and see the code. ^^

...maybe that's what the problem is?

The first battle with Vargas is an exception, though. You can't use a Blitz in that battle until Sabin tells you that you can use it.


(PS - I'm also talking about the PS1 version -- I think it's the same as the SNES version anyway.)

Psycho_Cyan
11-21-2006, 06:03 PM
You can use a Blitz before Sabin's nifty dialogue box--I'm currently on my way to Zozo, so I just passed that part. ;) And while I haven't seen it in the ps1 version, Sabin gives you a detailed explanation of how to use his Blitzes during the Vargas fight. Something like, "Press A, then press left, then right, then left, then press A again."

When Sabin does "learn" a new Blitz, it'll give you the "Sabin level up" message and then say "Devised a new Blitz!!" Then you check his Blitz list, and the newly devised blitz will appear. He starts with Pummel, AuraBolt, and Suplex, and won't learn another until level 15 or so.

jewess crabcake
11-21-2006, 06:14 PM
In my FF6 "Sabin" is Mash I presume so just start kicking Vargas' ass and soon He'll say I'm gettiing bored and giivve yoou a "doom" like effect you have about 60 seconds or like 20 turns to get the oppurtunity to use Blitz command. Just for reassurance you mean the King oof Figaro's bro. right?

Psycho_Cyan
11-21-2006, 06:23 PM
In my FF6 "Sabin" is Mash I presume


Which means you've either imported or (much more likely) you're playing an emulated FFVI. JFTR, illegal emulation sucks like a huge Hoover.

To answer your question, though, yes, Sabin=Mash.

Mr Jack
11-21-2006, 06:25 PM
ok well - im officially confused (doesnt take much!!)

1) yeah - were talking about the same dialogue boxes - but i dont get an expanation of how to use it, the conversation is something like, "well i guess there is no avoiding this" - it does say something about blitzes but nothing that comes close to being an explanation of how to use them or anything, then vargas casts doom and starts saying "is that all you got" - or something?

2) i wont be able to see the blitz menu for Sabin, because i have not yet got him in my party, ive literelly only just met the guy, he comes and stop Vargas from kicking my ass (and then the other charaters get blown away)

3) Sabin doesnt tell me when i can use blitz, the command is avalable, but since there is no explanation on how to use it, i have no idea what to put in (though a quick google search sorted that out)

4) i have no idea what Chunky Munkey is saying - (Now THERES a sentence i never thought id say!!) because i cant get past this part and cannot therefore see what comes after the Vargas Battle!

5) He does cast doom on me, but Sabin is new and not strong enough to kick Vargas's ass within the time limit given, and NO WAY can i get 20 turns before doom has an effect on me!!

Sorry if i sound a bit arrogant, but im proper frustrated cause of this and i just wanna play the damn game!!

Thanx all....any more info?!?

Psycho_Cyan
11-21-2006, 06:40 PM
Well, seeing as both Kuro and I explained how to do Pummel to get out of the Vargas fight, you should be alright.

To recap: When Sabin's turn comes up, select "Blitz," and when the pointer, well, points at Sabin, you press left, right, left, X. Sabin'll do his fighter-pose thing, then it will say "Pummel" at the top (like a spell), then Sabin'll do Pummel.

Later, as in when you're done with Vargas, you can check his menu to see his blitzes. Some of them have diagonals to press, like AuraBolt, which is down, down-left, left. When you see a diagonal, you DON'T have to press the diagonal. In the case of AuraBolt, you can use either left or down in place of the diagonal. Which means you can press down, down, left or down, left, left.

Mr Jack
11-22-2006, 02:06 PM
well i went home last night and used pummel..im now past it AND - i even wrote the code in the manual so that i dont get stuck if i play the game again.

But it still puzzles me on why the game doesnt explain this, I guess its just one of those things.

Thanks for your help everybody!

Fnlfntsyfn
12-22-2006, 08:36 PM
Well, I tried this. Is this the correct procedure?

1) Move poiner to Blitz (in the battle menu).
2) Press X (to select the Blitz command).

Now it has the target pointer pointing at Sabin.

3) Input the combination on the D-pad (in this case, L R L).
4) Press X to confirm action.

Is this 100% the correct procedure? If not, please tell me what I'm doing wrong. If so, I might have to scream, because I have tried and tried and it still won't damn well WORK!!! Please, my very sanity depends on this. I have not played FFVI for ages because I couldn't beat Vargas as I had avoided battles like a fool and was therefore a tad on the weedy side. This time around, I was very pleased to beat Vargas, only to get stuck mere minutes later because of Blitz. So, as I say, my sanity depends on it. Feedback would be much appreciated, thanks!

BTW, as I am playing on the PS2, I am using an analog controller. If the analog is switched on (LED lit up etc.) the game doesn't react to the controller; I have found this to be the case with most PS games. Thus the analog is off, and I can use either the D-pad or the left analog stick (which is weird when you think about it) to move characters and cursors. Does that mean I have to use the analog stick instead of the D-pad to input the Blitz combination?

jewess crabcake
12-22-2006, 11:08 PM
That sounds right to me, try it again with analog off, and then with analog on.

Fnlfntsyfn
12-23-2006, 12:13 AM
Ok thanks. As I said, it doesn't react to the controller input with analog active, but I'll give it a try anyway. Thanks again.

P.S. I've noticed something odd, but rather good. Now, as you may have guessed, I have repeatedly lost during the Sabin stage of the battle. After that, it goes to the game over screen, with Terra slumped on the floor against a black background. Whether you leave it alone or press X, it automatically returns you to the last save point. Now, the odd thing is...before I fought Vargas, Terra, Locke and Edgar were all at level 12. The random encounters en route from save point to Vargas had resulted in Locke and Edgar levelling up to 13. When it returned me to the save point as described above, they were still at level 13! It seems that it did not reset the progress as it should have, perhaps because it's not a normal battle, and the party technically consisted only of Sabin when I was "Annihilated". However, I'm not exactly complaining! The only downside is that they also retained reduced HP/MP levels. I shall investigate this further, as I don't exactly forsee defeating Vargas any time soon (lol). Has anyone else noticed this glitch or whatever it is?

Kefka
12-24-2006, 04:29 AM
Experience points and magic learned is kept after you get a Game Over, but GP/Gil and Items are not. If you were to turn the game off, you'd lose those too. <br>It's not an error, that's the way it's supposed to be.<br><br>
Also: Hi, Fnlfntsyfn. Welcome to FFShrine.<br><br>

Fnlfntsyfn
12-24-2006, 10:57 PM
Ok thanks. I did wonder about that, but then FFVI's data system has always seemed a little odd to me. I mean, WTF with that weird memo thing? I never really used it, what is it really for? No need to answer that question, I can find out if I need to. But anyway, thanks for the welcome!

I still haven't really had chance to try out your advice, Smarties, but I will give it a go when I next play. Of course, I still welcome anyone else confirming the method, or even proposing alternatives. Thanks all!

A thought has occurred to me... does anyone know what happens to Vargas's condition after the interruption? I.e. is his HP fully restored and whatnot. If it doesn't change, I might be able to get round my trouble by simply getting my party strong enough to leave Vargas with not that much in the HP department, making it just about possible for Sabin to whup him with good ol' normal attacks. Of course, this depends on the precise condtions of when the interruption occurs as well as a couple of other factors, but who thinks this might just work? Oh, and how the hell much HP does Vargas have anyway?

Seiryuu
12-24-2006, 11:02 PM
A memo is a temporary save; use once, gone forever.

Fnlfntsyfn
12-24-2006, 11:03 PM
Knew it was something like that lol. However, that raises the question of WTF is the point when you can make permanent saves? Ah well, let's not raise the subject into a major discussion...

Kefka
12-24-2006, 11:36 PM
Yeah, most of the PlayStation remakes used those memo dealies =/<br>Really don't see the point.

Kefka
12-24-2006, 11:37 PM
Ah well, let's not raise the subject into a major discussion...

Lol, why not ^.^

Seiryuu
12-24-2006, 11:38 PM
I can't say anything, cause I'm playing the old SNES version. :D

Kefka
12-24-2006, 11:41 PM
Remakes :(<br>Originals :D