Just popping in here to say that yeah, unless it's to bump a thread for a valid reason, double posting is not okay.

300zxJ, this is your warning for that.

I am now 39 hours 28 minutes into the game and have just arrived at the most beautiful place in the game I have ever seen - Paramina Rift / Head of the Silverflow. The spot just across the river, amazing how it looks when your walking with the camera looking upward at the mountains. I'm just now starting to understand why it took them so long to come out with this game.

Wow, really? That's interesting and totaly on topic stuff.


You guys suck. You got me all excited about the damn demon wall, thinking it was actually going to be a difficult fight, but i was able to turn it around, fuck it in the ass, and kill it with a nasty glare. At this point, I'm very tempted to put the game away and write it off as yet another piss easy FF game with a broken system.

So... What levels were you on? You are talking about the first Demon Wall, right? Because I took out the 2nd one by giving it a charlie horse then hurting it's feeling by saying Santa wasn't real.


Just popping in here to say that yeah, unless it's to bump a thread for a valid reason, double posting is not okay.


Hey, Ndi. *waves*

man. you guys are making me feel noob now. (and confused)

cause i took my 2000 carrola stock, and crashed on the fucking demon wall and its hp only went down by 700 i was like oh fuck man! so i got a spoiler added to get more speed and i went through the wall. :D





no but seriously. fuck you prak if it was easy for you!

also. be a pal, and please tell me what lvl you were, what you had equipped, who was in your party, and how you did it. thanks. :D i'll be going back there today to get my sword. :p

man. you guys are making me feel noob now. (and confused)

cause i took my 2000 carrola stock, and crashed on the fucking demon wall and its hp only went down by 700 i was like oh fuck man! so i got a spoiler added to get more speed and i went through the wall. :D





no but seriously. fuck you prak if it was easy for you!

also. be a pal, and please tell me what lvl you were, what you had equipped, who was in your party, and how you did it. thanks. :D i'll be going back there today to get my sword. :p

it should be pretty easy for everyone...i did hardly anything (i.e. attack, heal, cure abnormal status)
forgot what lvl i was when i was at the first demon wall...maybe i'll play through again and see

Ixnine, yes, I was talking about the first demon wall. And it did manage to kill me once simply because I didn't know it was on a timer. I had it almost dead, but got smashed into the wall. I roffled about that.

All my characters (except Vossler, who was 18) were level 16. I hardly even remember how they're armed since license planning really doesn't seem to be that important. All but Balthier have level 1 quickenings.

I used the same approach on both walls. Basically, I engaged the bastards fast and opened up on them with quickenings, then switched another character in to get another chain going. Rinse. Repeat. Rubble.

This has led me to believe that quickenings are completely broken and make the game as absurdly easy as the last few.

oh no wonder. jeez. i knew i was probably lacking in quickenings. i'm litterally ABOUT TO ENTER THE JUNGLE after the whole ghafir/ghifar/figar/gagir whatever event about nethicite, and i STILL only have 3 quickenings total, 1 to each of 3 of my chars. O_o lol

you had 5 during the wall fight. arg. i was thinking of going back. i still have the same number of quicks, but this time my lvl's are 22,22,22,21,21,21. :p if it wasn't for the time limit i would have owned him long ago. arg!!

speaking od the 2nd wall, i deafeted him after i got Belias....Belias defeated him for me ;-)

huh? i tried using belias on him too. there isn't enough time. unless you can maybe hurt him in order to trigger his special attack which i think happens when he's near death? and how did you get belias before taking on the 2nd wall? you mean the first right? O_o

Ixnine, yes, I was talking about the first demon wall. And it did manage to kill me once simply because I didn't know it was on a timer. I had it almost dead, but got smashed into the wall. I roffled about that.

All my characters (except Vossler, who was 18) were level 16. I hardly even remember how they're armed since license planning really doesn't seem to be that important. All but Balthier have level 1 quickenings.

I used the same approach on both walls. Basically, I engaged the bastards fast and opened up on them with quickenings, then switched another character in to get another chain going. Rinse. Repeat. Rubble.

This has led me to believe that quickenings are completely broken and make the game as absurdly easy as the last few.

I feel like a stupid noob asking this but oh well. Right now im level 31 and at the Shrine of Miriam. I've only used quickenings a few times. I hear from everyone their super powerful, but when i use them on even a normal bad guy, they do only a little bit more than a damage from a normal attack would. What am i doing wrong?

I feel like a stupid noob asking this but oh well. Right now im level 31 and at the Shrine of Miriam. I've only used quickenings a few times. I hear from everyone their super powerful, but when i use them on even a normal bad guy, they do only a little bit more than a damage from a normal attack would. What am i doing wrong?



If its activated with Vaan or any other character, let his play out but before time runs out press button on side of other party members name. Then their animations will play, then press button on next party members name wash rinse and repeat.

Sorry if instructions werent clear enough.

If its activated with Vaan or any other character, let his play out but before time runs out press button on side of other party members name. Then their animations will play, then press button on next party members name wash rinse and repeat.

Sorry if instructions werent clear enough.

Those intructions will do. thanks

Those intructions will do. thanks

You're welcome. I had to give you rush instructions because Im trying to post and cook for my wife at the same time lol. :)

Your welcome. I had to give you rush instructions because Im trying to post and cook for my wife at the same time lol. :)

Indeed, tis a challenging task.

Indeed, tis a challenging task.

Did it work for you?

I never understood quickenings until a friend explained them.

They are maybe too useful.

Seriously, I hate resorting to quickenings but sometimes I get lazy and don't feel like finishing off a boss/mark so I will use them.
Also, the augments on the license board make MP charges go way up, so I can use a quickening and shortly after have almost full MP.

I never understood quickenings until a friend explained them.

They are maybe too useful.

Seriously, I hate resorting to quickenings but sometimes I get lazy and don't feel like finishing off a boss/mark so I will use them.
Also, the augments on the license board make MP charges go way up, so I can use a quickening and shortly after have almost full MP.


there ARE huge advantages to the use of quickenings...
but i tend to not use items on my first playthrough...it gives the games i play more challenge than was intended

The game is already too easy without the quickenings.

The accessories play a major role in that to.

The game is already too easy without the quickenings.

The accessories play a major role in that to.

true...maybe i'll start over and equip my battle parties with as little as possible and see if it gets harder

I used the same approach on both walls. Basically, I engaged the bastards fast and opened up on them with quickenings, then switched another character in to get another chain going. Rinse. Repeat. Rubble.

So you went with what we refer to as the "last resort"? If all you're going to use is quickenings, (again, that can't be a real word), then that explains why he was so easy. If you're going to use quickenings for all your bosses then you might as well hang the game up. I used Quickenings at the very end during the 8th or 9th try as kind of a "final blow" when I probobly didn't need to, I just like watching the visuals. The 2nd wall I didn't even use quickenings and it's actualy very easy compared to the 1st wall. then I read that is actualy true in the strategy guide.

i don't know about you guys. but if it's a challenge you want play god of war on god mode. other than that, who gives a fuck.

Did it work for you?

Yeah, it worked well

damn some of the bosses in this game are really easy but then you get to some bosses and woww there pretty damn hard. like when i fought cid holyy shit i thought i would nt beat him. Van Finel where are you in the game?

*SPOILERS*


damn some of the bosses in this game are really easy but then you get to some bosses and woww there pretty damn hard. like when i fought cid holyy shit i thought i would nt beat him. Van Finel where are you in the game?

Shrine of miriam... I thought Cid was good. Thanks for just ruining that for me. Put up goddamn spoiler warnings before you post or be banned.

Hello yea im stuck in the tomb. I got all the three teleport things lite up and I dont know were to go how do I get to the other side??!?!?

You guys suck. You got me all excited about the damn demon wall, thinking it was actually going to be a difficult fight, but i was able to turn it around, fuck it in the ass, and kill it with a nasty glare. At this point, I'm very tempted to put the game away and write it off as yet another piss easy FF game with a broken system.


It wasn't all that difficult once I realized how much space I had.... I screwed up the first time though with piss poor quicks.

i don't know about you guys. but if it's a challenge you want play god of war on god mode. other than that, who gives a fuck.

I love challenge when I can get around to it. I've been letting XII piss me off by avoiding quickenings and using my one and only Esper.

Gilthanos, I just noticed what you put under your name about Fran's ass. lol.

i don't know about you guys. but if it's a challenge you want play god of war on god mode. other than that, who gives a fuck.

god of war was somewhat of a challenge, but once you get past the learning curve...DMC3 on Heaven or Hell mode was too much at times posed much more of a challenge (i.e. damn near impossible)...sure everything dies in one hit, but so do you =P

POKEMON!

huh? i tried using belias on him too. there isn't enough time. unless you can maybe hurt him in order to trigger his special attack which i think happens when he's near death? and how did you get belias before taking on the 2nd wall? you mean the first right? O_o


the 1st wall the weak strong one, the 2nd the weak , i got belias, then when i went to exit the dungoen i rentered immediatly and fought the 1st wallm, Belias and Vaan for me.

afcourse the esper at the moments are weaker than me!!! and the same as when i got them, i have 3, just got the DEATH esper by accidant.

I dunno, the game seems decently challenging for me...but I spend tons of time going places I shouldn't. When a boss has 50k+ hp, and a full quickining chain does like 25k damage, and your whole party's left with no mp, your kinda fucked. I won't use them on anything but the hardest marks/bosses anyways, and even then, not always, cuz they aren't that useful against them, cept maybe as a finisher. The bosses get nasty once they're down to almost no hp. You want a challenge? If you're not there yet, before you head off to golmore jungle towards mt bur-omisice(sp?), do a bunch of marks, and try to take out th white mousse. He's a bitch. Yea, you have a certain VERY helpful guest, but with only 1 summon, which is next to useless, and not a whole lot of magic (not even fira/thundara/blizzara), it's a rough battle. Hell, my party could barely handle lots of battles with the normal enemies in the sewer at that time. Another good challenge-when passing through the jungle, after visiting the village, head south to the Feywood, and over to the Henne mines, and see if you can kill one of the bats. That's a bitch.

those fights also sound like fun when if limit your equipment...might pose a decent challenge but it shouldn't be damn-near impossible
you should try it as well...limiting your equipment to what you started with is a universal thing i do to make these games pose somewhat of a challenge

Wow, i defeated "Cuchulainn" , that was tough, i had to finish all my x-potions,and learned 3 level 3 quickining.
he is in Rabanaster underwater swear, you need the sluice gate key which you can get it after finishing a mark mission in there.

those fights also sound like fun when if limit your equipment...might pose a decent challenge but it shouldn't be damn-near impossible
you should try it as well...limiting your equipment to what you started with is a universal thing i do to make these games pose somewhat of a challenge

By equipment, do you mean just armor, or weapons, too?

Past few days I have been taking a break for the game and just do the marks when I have time.

Oh but what pissed me off is the LandWyrm.

I can't find it anywhere. So, if anyone has fought it can you help me?

It is a Rank V Mark and the guy told me I would find it in the Tchita Uplands but I cannot find it...

Past few days I have been taking a break for the game and just do the marks when I have time.

Oh but what pissed me off is the LandWyrm.

I can't find it anywhere. So, if anyone has fought it can you help me?

It is a Rank V Mark and the guy told me I would find it in the Tchita Uplands but I cannot find it...

i deafeted him last night, the whether must be RAINING, best way take a Chocobo from Phon coast, then go to tchida uplands, enter if there is thick cloud, means rainig, if there is little cloud with BLUE sky, then its dry time,
exit and enter till it happens, the chocobo for not to take a lot of time before you get to the dragon, by the way EXITING FROM TCHIDA TO PHON COAST I MEANT [FROM A HOLE PLACE TYO ANOTHER].

you well find him in GARDEN OF LIFE CIRCLE, just go southeast from phon coast enterance then a Blue save crystal comes, after it the area you want,

this way is better to do than go and do the teleporting crystal way, trust i tried that.
best of luck.
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i got another question Regarding BELITO mark rank 5, how can i get to him in yan-nensa, i know the place but i cant reach it?????

i got another question Regarding BELITO mark rank 5, how can i get to him in yan-nensa, i know the place but i cant reach it?????

nam-yensa i meant, in WHETHERING SHORES area.

nam-yensa i meant, in WHETHERING SHORES area.

sorry for the posts, but i found the way,

in Ogir-yensa area, the rare 2 way to go to Zeritinan caverns:
1- in east-junction area which will lead you to the north part of the cavirns,
2- in central-junction area , which will lead you to a secluded part in the caverns map, that way it will lead to NAM-YENSA secluded part in the Map in WiTHERING SHORES AREA,
now at the moment i am there.....but i am not fighting Belito....its a trap you can say, i am fighting BA GANMAN and his gang !

By equipment, do you mean just armor, or weapons, too?

everything i have equipped is what each character started with but when i find stuff that's weaker i'll be sure to have that junk instead =P

I'm pissed, i got the Kings Sword, it looks so awesome and then i found out it has shitty stats. What a bummer.

Some more thoughts --- I like how you have a lot of freedom of transportation and ways to move about. The battle system is really getting interesting --- Gambits is so helpful and there are so many different complexities and fun things to do. Favorite character so far --- Basch.

Oh, and still adoring the music. I so want the soundtrack for this game, if only to put The Prologue (Theme of Final Fantasy) on an endless loop (kidding, but not much)...

I'm pissed, i got the Kings Sword, it looks so awesome and then i found out it has shitty stats. What a bummer.

equip it for shits and giggles!!!
seriously though...you need not worry about stats in this game

Some more thoughts --- I like how you have a lot of freedom of transportation and ways to move about. The battle system is really getting interesting --- Gambits is so helpful and there are so many different complexities and fun things to do. Favorite character so far --- Basch.

Oh, and still adoring the music. I so want the soundtrack for this game, if only to put The Prologue (Theme of Final Fantasy) on an endless loop (kidding, but not much)...


I feel the exact same way! I just got to the Tomb of Raithwall and I have quickenings for 4 or my characters. My favorite character so far is Ashe her shield is so badass.

Main Party = Ashe, Basch, and Fran.

So Agent where are you at?

Rescuing Ashe from the prison cell. Saved right now at the cell, but haven't actually talked to Ashe yet.

Ya, I was stuck on that part that was the time I had to start all over again due to not being leveled up as high as I should.

I have officially given up on the game. The lack of difficulty, the broken combat and advancement systems, and the fact that the plot is still totally stock after nearly 20 hours has killed my interest.

Maybe I'll pick it up again someday if I'm really bored, but I don't see it happening since I'll have a Wii to keep me occupied in a few days.

I have officially given up on the game. The lack of difficulty, the broken combat and advancement systems, and the fact that the plot is still totally stock after nearly 20 hours has killed my interest.

Maybe I'll pick it up again someday if I'm really bored, but I don't see it happening since I'll have a Wii to keep me occupied in a few days.

You really dont like the combat system? I do see what you mean about the story though. I hope it picks up in a bit. I dont think the game is too easy. Unless someones rapes the quickenings, then I might be able to see the difficulty curse drop dramatically. I myself dont use them too often.

lol
i owe it to a friend to finish it...since he put his ass on the line to let me rent it until i'm done =P
but if it gets any worse i'll probably lie to him and say the game sucks (which it does so far)

btw...is anyone else wondering if d_empiror knows about the edit button?...triple post ftl

Prak --- lemme guess, this game is going to become the new Final Fantasy VII for you?

No way z.zetsumei do you think it sucks? Where are you now and how long have you done? Ive done 60 hours i think its sweet.

The battle system's gotta be the best thing about it, no more loading in and out of random battles, come on prak whats up with you? ;)

i don't know about you guys, but quickenings arne't as useful as you make em out to be. you all make it seem like you can slaughter anything with it. i just faced off against 3 hella hard marks. i do 7 combo's avg with 11 being my highest i think, and even then, the 11 hit combo only took maybe 10k off the 90k+ mark. -_- you all make it sound like he should have died immediately.



i killed orthros and the white mouse yesterday along with the desert wyrm thing. the deserty wyrm was hella easy. he doens't have strong attacks even though his hp was the highest. while the white mouse and the orthros were fucking insane with their stupid waterga and shit. >.< all my chars were 24/25. if ashe didn't have fira, i would have never killed them, she was the only one doing decent damage. lol

No way z.zetsumei do you think it sucks? Where are you now and how long have you done? Ive done 60 hours i think its sweet.

The battle system's gotta be the best thing about it, no more loading in and out of random battles, come on prak whats up with you? ;)

just beat Ultima *yawn*...somehow i feel that Ultima's the last esper...i think it's the name
ftr...the story is not there...the battle system makes things way too easy (even without quickenings)...and the number of hours you have played has no bearing on how good a game is (i.e. it can be because the game is frickin' long...or it could be a way to waste time)
i'm playing VP2 at the moment...i'll probably check how many hours i have though when i take a break

Nope, Zodiark is the last esper.

just beat Ultima *yawn*...somehow i feel that Ultima's the last esper...i think it's the name
ftr...the story is not there...the battle system makes things way too easy (even without quickenings)...and the number of hours you have played has no bearing on how good a game is (i.e. it can be because the game is frickin' long...or it could be a way to waste time)
i'm playing VP2 at the moment...i'll probably check how many hours i have though when i take a break

I played FF12 last night, and FF4 this morning and I really missed the FF12 battle system. I actually favor seeing the monsters over random battles. That is why I loved chrono trigger so much. I dont know, I dont get the impression that the game is so easy. Im not having a difficult time with it but some bosses werent exactly pushovers. Maybe its just me, but most FF games havent been too hard so I think maybe square is following their natural trend.

I have heard that FF3 (DS) is really hard. No save points in dungeons and inns dont revive dead allies. Ill pick it up friday.

I have officially given up on the game. The lack of difficulty, the broken combat and advancement systems, and the fact that the plot is still totally stock after nearly 20 hours has killed my interest.

Maybe I'll pick it up again someday if I'm really bored, but I don't see it happening since I'll have a Wii to keep me occupied in a few days.

The battle system is loads better than any of the other FF's i played (havent played X-2,IX, or VI in case u were wondering). If you really want the game to be difficult, nothing is stopping you from just not using espers, or equiping shitty equipment, the list is endless. The other FF's were just as easy for me. Even more so, if your 20 hours in the game (which is about how much ive played) you aren't even close to being done with this game, the game could have a sudden shift in difficulty. I say after your done playing Zelda Twighlight Princess (which im just assuming you'll get if u get the Wii) you should go back to it.


equip it for shits and giggles!!!
seriously though...you need not worry about stats in this game

I was kind of thinking that, but this sword was just so pathetic. i had weapons that had attacks around 60 or higher and the Kings Sword only had 30 attack or so.

As for the difficulty, I myself like easier games, meaning games that dont make me chuck my controler at the wall in frustration, while Prak and many others like a challenge. I don't really hold a games difficulty against it. Unless its like DMC 3 hard, i went through 3 controlers before i beat that.

The battle system is loads better than any of the other FF's i played (havent played X-2,IX, or VI in case u were wondering). If you really want the game to be difficult, nothing is stopping you from just not using espers, or equiping shitty equipment, the list is endless. The other FF's were just as easy for me. Even more so, if your 20 hours in the game (which is about how much ive played) you aren't even close to being done with this game, the game could have a sudden shift in difficulty. I say after your done playing Zelda Twighlight Princess (which im just assuming you'll get if u get the Wii) you should go back to it.



I was kind of thinking that, but this sword was just so pathetic. i had weapons that had attacks around 60 or higher and the Kings Sword only had 30 attack or so.

As for the difficulty, I myself like easier games, meaning games that dont make me chuck my controler at the wall in frustration, while Prak and many others like a challenge. I don't really hold a games difficulty against it. Unless its like DMC 3 hard, i went through 3 controlers before i beat that.


Im 20 hours in and Im still at the mines lol. Im a level up whore. Next time I play Ill advance the story. Next is the dreadnaught.

Im 20 hours in and Im still at the mines lol. Im a level up whore. Next time I play Ill advance the story. Next is the dreadnaught.

Are the mines where u have Larsa as a guest?

Hrm. I like a good challenge, but I definitly don't think the game is too easy. What would you recommend as a good, hard rpg then? I happen to like the story so far in this game, and I do like the not having random battles thing. I do think the quickining board is a bit too easy, but I don't find it to be a huge detractor(sp?). So far, though, I like the game.

If you could change it, what would you change? (has to be specific, nothing like "a better story" or anything.
My changes:
-Monsters' lp values drops off after a certain amount of time, like xp does.
-Slightly higher lp costs for skills.
-2 player feature, kinda like tales of symphonia.
-If an enemy doesn't physically hit, they really don't hit
-Less time to charge up a basic weapon swing. A lot less.
-Slightly less time for items.
-Weaker quickinings that grow with you-maybe more time the higher level you are
-Slightly more variation in monsters found. I think this game is really good about it, but not quite perfect. I hate games where the map basically looks like this:
XXXXXX Where o is the start of the game,
XxxxxxX x is easy monsters,
XxxoxxX and X is hard monsters
XxxxxxX and so on continuing outward
XXXXXX

I like how this game breaks it up, it's more realistic

Either way, though, I like this game

Are the mines where u have Larsa as a guest?

The mines at Bhujerba

I just finished the Lhusu Mines (it's Lhusu, yeah, in Bhujerba) and I'm a little more than ten hours in like I said. I like decent levels, but I'm no level whore. I plan to replay this game entirely anyway with a walkthrough once I've beat it.

The mines at Bhujerba

If you've been playing 20 hours because you leveled and your only there, you could easily get through a good portion of the game without leveling at all.

You guys suck. The game is going to be as challenging as you want it to be. If you're going to focus on building levels, of corse the game is going to be easy.

That's what I'm going. I'm just goin with the flow. Level up when I have to.

If you've been playing 20 hours because you leveled and your only there, you could easily get through a good portion of the game without leveling at all.


You see for this game, I find myself doing it more for LP than EXP. Next time I play, I will go on though. What happens most times, is I level too much then I never finish the game.

I don't need any LP since my main party members have all the magick and augments.

I just update the armor/weapons when I come across something I don't have the liscense for yet.

I don't need any LP since my main party members have all the magick and augments.

I just update the armor/weapons when I come across something I don't have the liscense for yet.

The LP system is incredibly easy. I rarely have problems where in which i buy a weapon and i can't use it because i lack LPs.

The LP system is incredibly easy. I rarely have problems where in which i buy a weapon and i can't use it because i lack LPs.


Right now, Im really ahead of where Im supposed to be with the license board. I dont have that problem at all and that is the reason why I fight for so much LP. I dont want to have to get something and not be able to use it. If I dont have the license, I always have enough points so Im ok.

Nope, Zodiark is the last esper.
thanks for the info


As for the difficulty, I myself like easier games, meaning games that dont make me chuck my controler at the wall in frustration, while Prak and many others like a challenge. I don't really hold a games difficulty against it. Unless its like DMC 3 hard, i went through 3 controlers before i beat that.

lol DMC3 was so fun...it was the challenge that made me get the urge to play it...even now, when i think i've mastered the game...when in play on Dante Must Die or...Heaven or Hell Mode if i blink i see the Game Over screen
that's what keeps my playing it to this day

but i don't hold the difficulty against it...it's the fact that the story just isn't really there...and they really haven't done anything non-cliche to advance the story from the beginning

just beat Ultima *yawn*...somehow i feel that Ultima's the last esper...i think it's the name
ftr...the story is not there...the battle system makes things way too easy (even without quickenings)...and the number of hours you have played has no bearing on how good a game is (i.e. it can be because the game is frickin' long...or it could be a way to waste time)
i'm playing VP2 at the moment...i'll probably check how many hours i have though when i take a break

Im not trying to say that because i myself spent 60 hours on the game that it is good and every1 else should think so, but i do think it is good that even after 60 hours of play, i still think the game is sweet(for me), to you it could be crap.

I completed RE4 dont know how many times, and on pro diffuculty i cant say it was that hard it took less than half the time of what ive spent on this game up to now and i still love that game, thats how i know a game is good to me is how long i play the game.

Where is this ultima esper anyway? Ive just done the esper thats in the crystal south of feywood in guiverga(whatever its called i cant remember the name). I know theirs 1 in the stillshrine, if you use an item on the waystone it transprots you to the other room you see on the map.

You really dont like the combat system? I do see what you mean about the story though. I hope it picks up in a bit. I dont think the game is too easy. Unless someones rapes the quickenings, then I might be able to see the difficulty curse drop dramatically. I myself dont use them too often.

And I'm pretty much the opposite. When I play a game, I play to win. If the game makes it too easy to win, that's its own fault. I have no obligation to hold back just to make the game harder. One of the only reasons I played the thing was because people claimed it was hard, and finding that to not be the case was disheartening.


Prak --- lemme guess, this game is going to become the new Final Fantasy VII for you?

Nope. I have complaints about the game and it is definitely being severely overrated, but not on the same level. At least not yet. Also, I have no idea how it develops beyond the point I stopped at, so I can't make a final judgement.


The battle system's gotta be the best thing about it, no more loading in and out of random battles, come on prak whats up with you? ;)

First of all, you are a dumbass for making assumptions. I liked the lack of random battles quite a bit. It's the fact that the quickening mechanic breaks the game's balance that I took offense to. A broken battle system is nothing new for a Final fantasy game, but I had hoped that this one would be different. I won't make that mistake again.


The battle system is loads better than any of the other FF's i played (havent played X-2,IX, or VI in case u were wondering). If you really want the game to be difficult, nothing is stopping you from just not using espers, or equiping shitty equipment, the list is endless. The other FF's were just as easy for me. Even more so, if your 20 hours in the game (which is about how much ive played) you aren't even close to being done with this game, the game could have a sudden shift in difficulty. I say after your done playing Zelda Twighlight Princess (which im just assuming you'll get if u get the Wii) you should go back to it.

As I said before, I have no obligation to hold back in order to make the game more difficult. If it cannot satisfy my requirements by natural design, it is a failure.


As for the difficulty, I myself like easier games, meaning games that dont make me chuck my controler at the wall in frustration, while Prak and many others like a challenge. I don't really hold a games difficulty against it. Unless its like DMC 3 hard, i went through 3 controlers before i beat that.

That's your own business and I can respect the view. My point, however, is that the game has been hyped as being difficult. That is one of the primary reasons for my playing it.


You guys suck. The game is going to be as challenging as you want it to be. If you're going to focus on building levels, of corse the game is going to be easy.

I never spent time grinding. It was piss easy with me rushing through it.

And I'm pretty much the opposite. When I play a game, I play to win. If the game makes it too easy to win, that's its own fault. I have no obligation to hold back just to make the game harder. One of the only reasons I played the thing was because people claimed it was hard, and finding that to not be the case was disheartening.

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Nope. I have complaints about the game and it is definitely being severely overrated, but not on the same level. At least not yet. Also, I have no idea how it develops beyond the point I stopped at, so I can't make a final judgement.
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As I said before, I have no obligation to hold back in order to make the game more difficult. If it cannot satisfy my requirements by natural design, it is a failure.


*yes , i have hard times only with the` Marks, the bosses are weaker for me at the moment.

*and again i think the same thing about the Overrated issue, only the GAMPLAY give much credit, as said before .

*and i agree to regarding youre last Quote.

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i got a question: in NABREUS DEADLANDS, where can i findthose 2 who holds the key to open the door for stronger monsters [some creature there said it, he is there boss and waiting for them], i need it to fight and finish MARK 6 ROBLON???

Where is this ultima esper anyway? Ive just done the esper thats in the crystal south of feywood in guiverga(whatever its called i cant remember the name). I know theirs 1 in the stillshrine, if you use an item on the waystone it transprots you to the other room you see on the map.

i think i got ultima shortly after getting to Barfonheim Port


as for FFXII in general....let's just say that i heavily disagree with the score that Famitsu gave it...why?...there is no perfect game, and thus no game should recieve a perfect score

zumi, did you entered and completed NABREUS DEADLANDS?

That's your own business and I can respect the view. My point, however, is that the game has been hyped as being difficult. That is one of the primary reasons for my playing it.
I never spent time grinding. It was piss easy with me rushing through it.

Yeah i definately read in many magazines/sites/etc that this game was suppose to be very hard. That's one of the reasons I spent alot of time leveling so when the game suddenly turned hard, i'd be prepared. And it never did.


lol DMC3 was so fun...it was the challenge that made me get the urge to play it...even now, when i think i've mastered the game...when in play on Dante Must Die or...Heaven or Hell Mode if i blink i see the Game Over screen
that's what keeps my playing it to this day

but i don't hold the difficulty against it...it's the fact that the story just isn't really there...and they really haven't done anything non-cliche to advance the story from the beginning

I believe its Heaven or Hell Mode where you basically die in one hit. But DMC is on my top for action hacknslash (excluding DMC 2).

I actually thought the story was pretty decent. Although it's kind of annoying how the whole story is about Ashe and not Vaan. Still, the game is shitloads better than FF X

It is only difficult in the sense that it is much longer than any other of the FFs and it would take so much longer to do sidequests than the previous games.

I believe its Heaven or Hell Mode where you basically die in one hit. But DMC is on my top for action hacknslash (excluding DMC 2).

yeah...it's Heaven or Hell Mode where everything dies in one hit...even you
but DMD mode is imo harder (you can gun spam in HoH) since it takes longer to defeat enemies and they can devil trigger on you, making your life miserable


zumi, did you entered and completed NABREUS DEADLANDS?

think so...dunno if i did all the sidequest but eh...not really concerned with those

yeah...it's Heaven or Hell Mode where everything dies in one hit...even you
but DMD mode is imo harder (you can gun spam in HoH) since it takes longer to defeat enemies and they can devil trigger on you, making your life miserable


Were the bosses dead in one hit?

Were the bosses dead in one hit?

yeah

uh

uh

If you're not heedful, this thread may very well become your casket. Don't post drivel like that, for the sake of your wellbeing.

Were do i find the fucking Garudus or whatever?????? please help someone

be more specific

, i need it to fight and finish MARK 6 ROBLON???

i found them and found the secret path, 1 in Rabanastar in DALAN place[lowtown south area], you need to find 3 fragments, 1 is hard to get , in the sewers, operate the sluice gates, like this [a friend told me about it], 1st let them all of, then turn sluice gate n.11 and n.4, then close n.11 and open n.3, then close n.4, you should here a sound something dropping, in the same place move forward , you will find a shiny thing on the ground.
the 2nd fragment, you n eed to do 2 marks which are in the same area to be done.

the other one in Archadia [magic shop].

the secret path in nabreus deadland is in area:slumbermead, south of the orange save crystal, its in the northwes part of that area, you get to walk over the sawmp.

there continue to a shrine, you get to find mark 6 ROBLON.

Prak;
First of all, you are a dumbass for making assumptions. I liked the lack of random battles quite a bit. It's the fact that the quickening mechanic breaks the game's balance that I took offense to. A broken battle system is nothing new for a Final fantasy game, but I had hoped that this one would be different. I won't make that mistake again.




Be sure that you dont make that mistake again 'dumbass', and be more specific in your post as 'Broken combat system' means 'broken combat system', not 'broken quickening mechanics break's the game's balance'.

It is entirely obvious that what I meant was that the quickenings break the entire combat system. As such, the battle system itself is broken. If you were too dumb to read previous posts and look at that particular one in context, that is your failing and no one else's. Now shut up and take your lumps like a man. You were a dumbass and got called on it. Move on already.

I dont see how you could have liked random battles though. You can't control your characters movements, its time consuming because the screen pauses, then cracks then u fight the enemy and then once u kill it you have to watch your hero do a victory dance and see the items u recieved. I prefer the realtime battle system as it's quicker.

ok I got a question. Is Ashe anything like Dagger/Garnet from ff9? I mean they did run away from there life as a queen/princess or whatever. So I would like to know.

ok I got a question. Is Ashe anything like Dagger/Garnet from ff9? I mean they did run away from there life as a queen/princess or whatever. So I would like to know.

Now that I think about it that part of the story does remind me of Garnet, however no, she's nothing like Garnet. Ashe is too serious. I just wish I could slip her a few drinks to loosen her up.

It is entirely obvious that what I meant was that the quickenings break the entire combat system. As such, the battle system itself is broken. If you were too dumb to read previous posts and look at that particular one in context, that is your failing and no one else's. Now shut up and take your lumps like a man. You were a dumbass and got called on it. Move on already.

O yeah i see what you mean now with your previous post's, my bad, sorry prik

damn, i just fought with 2 REEELY strong monsters [marks] PYLESTER and FAFNIR,

in both 2 bubble helped me out, and all my phoenix and x-potion went down zero and remidies to.

reeeely strong,

now i am going to fight a mark, he is ffamiliar :IXION [ffX lightning summon] and previos a fpught with Diablos [ffviii summon] but he is small.

there is another elite mark, mysterios swordsman....he is Gilgamish[ff5 as enemy+ff8 as summon
9when using odin)]

and i suddenly found myself against the FINAL boss, i didnt expected like this, and this final BOSS the 1ST BOSS TO DEAFEAT ME AFTER 1:30hr fight as in story boss.

he is tough right, comparing how i deafeted Pylester and Fafnir [marks]

any way, now i am going to settle, and will complete the MARK task, i wont go to all the sidequest, and i want to collect the final ESPERS to, i am going to End the game next sat.

now i will go and get a strategy guid to see certain things.

as a final post to this topic from me, FFXII only FANTASTIC as a Gameplay, but the story saddly poorer than it, [ usually FF games the Story is Better than the gameplay itself, even in DoC].

i rank this game with the other FF:
FFVI
FFVII
FFVIII
FFIV
FFIX
FFX
FFXII
FFX-2
FF V
[3+2+1 yet to play them and XI].

now i have been reassigned back home, going to my Fiancie, but i will finish it before getting married,

i thank all of you you interracted with me, its good to be in a community while you dont do anything except envading other countries for who nows porpose, now i am leaving the desert, and hopefully never return.
but this is A BAD FORUM , LOTS WHO LIKE TO BULL AROUND AND SPITT WORDS, one of the worst places i've been in.

this is me SIGNING OFF.

and i suddenly found myself against the FINAL boss, i didnt expected like this, and this final BOSS the 1ST BOSS TO DEAFEAT ME AFTER 1:30hr fight as in story boss.

he is tough right, comparing how i deafeted Pylester and Fafnir [marks]

any way, now i am going to settle, and will complete the MARK task, i wont go to all the sidequest, and i want to collect the final ESPERS to, i am going to End the game next sat.

now i will go and get a strategy guid to see certain things.

as a final post to this topic from me, FFXII only FANTASTIC as a Gameplay, but the story saddly poorer than it, [ usually FF games the Story is Better than the gameplay itself, even in DoC].

i rank this game with the other FF:
FFVI
FFVII
FFVIII
FFIV
FFIX
FFX
FFXII
FFX-2
FF V
[3+2+1 yet to play them and XI].

now i have been reassigned back home, going to my Fiancie, but i will finish it before getting married,

i thank all of you you interracted with me, its good to be in a community while you dont do anything except envading other countries for who nows porpose, now i am leaving the desert, and hopefully never return.
but this is A BAD FORUM , LOTS WHO LIKE TO BULL AROUND AND SPITT WORDS, one of the worst places i've been in.

this is me SIGNING OFF.


You rated FF X and FF VIII higher than XII. Shame on you.

You rated FF X and FF VIII higher than XII. Shame on you.

Yeah!

Progress Report: I'm 46 hours into the game and finished the stillshrine of miriam and have left Mt. Bur-something and about to head back up north. Does this game ever end?

Yes it in fact does.

I have about 55 hours in the game and I am in the Great Crystal. Which I can tell is at the end.

So I am going back and doing all the marks/ getting ultimate weapons/ collecting espers/ and doing the random sidequests.

Yes it in fact does.

I have about 55 hours in the game and I am in the Great Crystal. Which I can tell is at the end.

So I am going back and doing all the marks/ getting ultimate weapons/ collecting espers/ and doing the random sidequests.

I thought that when i was at the great crystal

O yeah i see what you mean now with your previous post's, my bad, sorry prik
Rofl, Prak's been called a prick again. Can't come up with something more creative and cunning?

Get with the program.

Rofl, Prak's been called a prick again. Can't come up with something more creative and cunning?

Get with the program.

no, maybe you could think of something for me?

Prak is the bestest sweet pants around.

So, shut up, be nice, and stop being an uncreative retard.

Prak is the bestest sweet pants around.

So, shut up, be nice, and stop being an uncreative retard.

0_o

Rofl, Prak's been called a prick again. Can't come up with something more creative and cunning?

Get with the program.

Prok, Prek, Pruk. Nope cant think of any :p