Blank101
08-02-2006, 10:40 AM
i dont get it right. if sum1 dies in spira they turn into a fiend. so how come auron died ten years ago but he can stay human. help me pls sum1
The Lost One
08-02-2006, 11:39 AM
Well, there you have a point... I was going to say they need a sending or sumthing, but that won't work because people get send because they would turn into fiends... Ermz... Maybe it has something to do with the willpower or sumthing? -.-' I mean, almost off of those spiritual guys are dead too there, so maybe it has something to do with wheter they want to be sent? I also recall a stry on Tidus' mum who died but went astray herself, because nobody sent her. Maybe it's up to you if you want to linger in the world or be sent? Well that must've been confusing...
Blank101
08-02-2006, 11:46 AM
dear god. but surely everyone wouldnt want to die
The Lost One
08-02-2006, 11:52 AM
Well, I can;t imagine living in a world with sum huge black beast destroying everything, stuffed with monsters tearing all you beloved ones apart, not to mention the presence of Hypello's is very nice...
But seriously, no, ofcourse not everyone would want to die, but once you dead there would be the choice of going to the Farplane or staying on Spira as a spirit. The Farplane was very nice if I remember correctly, so most people want to go there. Maybe thats when you turn into a fiend: Wanting to go to farplane but not being sent.
Blank101
08-02-2006, 12:02 PM
dat could be it. and auron didnt want to go in either
The Lost One
08-02-2006, 12:07 PM
He had to kill that yunalesca before going, and helping out tidus was a promise to Jecht, so yeah, I think I've found the answer ^.^
jewess crabcake
08-02-2006, 05:35 PM
The reason Auron exists is because when he died he went to the farplane where the pyreflies joined to create his image but somehow he crossed the line from the farplane to Tidus' dream world. And returned back to spira.
TeknoBlade
08-02-2006, 06:49 PM
The reason Auron exists is because when he died he went to the farplane where the pyreflies joined to create his image but somehow he crossed the line from the farplane to Tidus' dream world. And returned back to spira.
This sounds like a good explanation.
LR +10pts
Yuna's_Reincarnation
08-02-2006, 06:58 PM
People went to the fareplane if they got sent or accepted death but as Auron had made a promise then he didn't accept death nor was he jealous of the dead so he didn't become a fiend either
urbansamurai431
08-02-2006, 08:38 PM
^ jealous of the living.
me5775772
08-03-2006, 07:30 AM
auron died but a "powerful emotion" kept him on earth as with Jyscal when he almost escapes the far plane. I dont know how far to go with this because of spoilers, but Belgamine died get sent either and stayed humanish, because she wanted to help summoners, Lady Ginem(sp) didnt either (no idea y) and theres Seymore, who wanted to destory ("save") spira, so powerful emotions. also tidus' mum "accepted" death and dealt with it so she went to farplane.
****Spoiler****
Auron used "Current Sin" to go back to Zanarkand because "Current Sin" had a link with it
Andyuk
08-03-2006, 10:50 AM
Fiends are made up of pireflies becoming angry at dying or something. I forget exactly but Lulu explains after you first fight sin on that boat.
Also Auron made a promise to Jecht - so he had a reason to stay alive, like some people can. I forget the exact promise though.
me5775772
08-03-2006, 11:08 AM
Guard Tidus with his life, considering he's dead it isnt worth much tho
Pimp Daddy McSnake
08-03-2006, 11:27 AM
somehow he crossed the line from the farplane to Tidus' dream world. And returned back to spira.
Since Auron was composed of pyreflies, he could travel with Sin to Tidus' dream Zanerkand.
The Lost One
08-03-2006, 04:51 PM
Hmmmm this is deep... I might throw a little investigation at this :0
me5775772
08-03-2006, 06:14 PM
Hmmmm this is deep... I might throw a little investigation at this :0
Lol it may help us all
Basically, Auron was never sent, just like how Seymour was never sent.
Thus, Auron could walk around Spira/Zanarkand like some kind of badass.
Seymour Guado
08-03-2006, 06:47 PM
This is just a educated guess but maybe Sin kept him alive to help Tidus on his journey.
This is just a educated guess but maybe Sin kept him alive to help Tidus on his journey.
Oh my god, I want to hurt you.
Seymour Guado
08-03-2006, 06:54 PM
Thank you...?
Blank101
09-03-2006, 03:57 PM
well if he dint get sent he would tur into a fiend, so it has 2 be will power or sumthing like they mentioned at the top
I think Seymour Guado is right on his guess. Since his friend, Jecht, is Sin.
I also recall a stry on Tidus' mum who died but went astray herself, because nobody sent her
She was never sent but she went to the farplane because of her will. She didn't become astray or whatever.
killa_blitzball
09-09-2006, 09:08 PM
LOL, it all makes sensce to me. u see someone dies they are jelious of the living, then that jelousy turns into envy, then envy turns into hate, then thats when they become fiends.
Oh and tidus' mom accepted her death while she was still living, because she belive that jecht died when he went out to sea to train...
Hope it makes sensce. :)
Fanalert
09-17-2006, 08:55 PM
Killa, that sounds like a star wars reference to me XP
Also... I think I know teh reason, and yeh, it's pretty much been mentioned, the whole, Auron made the promise to Jecht thing, and he wasn't envious so he's not a fiend and all...
I'd jsut like to note, Tidus IS teh dream.. Spoiler here from X-2, don't read on if you don't want it spoiled;
Tidus is a dream copy of Shuyin (who appears in X-2), brought into semi-reality by teh pyreflies to aid what'sername on her quest. Yuna, Yuna on her quest... The Jascal bit confused me, and I'm still not sure why Auron buckled over when Jascal came through the farplane.. can someone explain that to me?
Magneto42
09-17-2006, 08:58 PM
Meh. Jecht as Sin allowed Auron to travel to the dream of the fayth and bring Tidus to Spira so Tidus could kill Sin.
This is told like a thousand times in the game.
Fanalert
09-17-2006, 08:59 PM
Well some of us are yet to finish the game *glare* I'm.. kinda stuck in the cloister.. which one I can't remember, the one where I jsut killed Seymour (the first time)
Dewentor
09-17-2006, 11:52 PM
when auron come to zanarkand he wasnt ghost or dead
he was real and after sin attack he back to farplane then
escape from there to spira with sin power then reach near luca
then they meet with tidus again...
but in end sin power gone and he go to farplane again...
but tidus was sin source then remain in under water for day of fate...
soriosler norithans there...
Grim062000
09-18-2006, 07:03 PM
Ok, ok, ok...I got it...
Auron didnt turn into a fiend because he wasnt envious of the living. That was main question at hand right? Why didnt Auron turn into a fiend because he wasnt sent?
I dont know where the hell all this shit about Tidus' mom, and him traveling from Zanarkand to Spira came up, but the answer to your question is that he is not envious of the living.
Fanalert
09-18-2006, 07:32 PM
Lawl, Tidus comes in because of Aurons promise to Jecht.. And..Dewentor, you speak kinda like Kamahri. Or a cave man. I can't decide which yet though.
me5775772
09-29-2006, 08:24 AM
In rare cases, pyreflies maintain enough cohesion and sentience to become unsent, beings that appear human but are actually the lingering remnant of a dead individual with a purpose left unfinished.
Search wikipedia for Final Fantasy 10
i dont get it right. if sum1 dies in spira they turn into a fiend. so how come auron died ten years ago but he can stay human. help me pls sum1
Becuase when a person dies and are not sent then they begin to envy the living and become fiends if they are not sent. The only way that Auron is dead and still be somwhat human is that he did not begin to envy the living or maybe he had something he still had to do, like go Zanarkand and watch over Tidus and become Yunas guardian if she became a summoner. This was mostly said in the game
jewess crabcake
10-09-2006, 05:00 PM
this is the same thing as *ffx-2* spoiler
Maecha you know that old man that tells you tons of tivial bullshit, sometimes he'll tell you something useful...... sometimes.
kazukisugee
11-16-2006, 05:30 AM
cause he had a promise to fulfill to braska and jecht, i think.....
imallaboutauron
11-16-2006, 10:10 PM
Well some of us are yet to finish the game *glare* I'm.. kinda stuck in the cloister.. which one I can't remember, the one where I jsut killed Seymour (the first time)
i have finishest the game ok so im the one ask ok
kazukisugee
11-25-2006, 05:41 AM
just remember what lulu's said to tidus in kilika. she said if the souls who had died and do not accept it's death and they had an anger on it, they would become a fiend. And i think, auron doesn't have an anger on his death beside he had a promise to fullfill and no one ever perform a sending for him, so he could just 'live' in spira just like maester mika, maechen, and seymour. Am i right? hikz, i don't know.
by the way, i had finished ffx a long time ago and i've played it again for 5 times more, hehehe, i sure love this game....but it's hard for me to defeat omega....is there someone who could help me.....plssssss.
zells final heaven
12-04-2006, 07:57 PM
i think me5775772 was right:
auron died but a "powerful emotion" kept him on earth as with Jyscal when he almost escapes the far plane. I dont know how far to go with this because of spoilers, but Belgamine died get sent either and stayed humanish, because she wanted to help summoners, Lady Ginem(sp) didnt either (no idea y) and theres Seymore, who wanted to destory ("save") spira, so powerful emotions. also tidus' mum "accepted" death and dealt with it so she went to farplane.
imallaboutauron
12-04-2006, 10:11 PM
just remember what lulu's said to tidus in kilika. she said if the souls who had died and do not accept it's death and they had an anger on it, they would become a fiend. And i think, auron doesn't have an anger on his death beside he had a promise to fullfill and no one ever perform a sending for him, so he could just 'live' in spira just like maester mika, maechen, and seymour. Am i right? hikz, i don't know.
by the way, i had finished ffx a long time ago and i've played it again for 5 times more, hehehe, i sure love this game....but it's hard for me to defeat omega....is there someone who could help me.....plssssss.
yes that is one way u could put it
the eazy way to beat omega is the 3 bug sisters
In the game it says that beings with a strong bond to something in Spira can retain their souls and walk around as the living, like Mika and Seymour did. Also remember that if somebody is killed by Sin directly, that they're sort of enslaved by sin, and instantly become part of sin (sinspawn if you will) so are not allowed to roam the earth. Since Auron was killed by Yunalesca, and actually made it back to Bevelle before actually dying, he was able to become a living spirit.
Also, this thread should really have spoilers written at the top or something.
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