I just tried to fight Ultima Weapon, got him down to about 35k HP and he killed me. What is the best setup I should have? Squall is at Lvl. 65, Zell is around 56-57, and Quistis is around the 45 area. I have Squall with Recover and Zell with Revive. I realized that you cant really depend on GF's, because they're dead with one hit. I dont have Doomtrain, but I noticed that using Meltdown and draw/cast Ultima works pretty good. Im almost out of G-potions and Hi-potions so I cant fully cure my GF's before the battle. Any tips on how to beat him? I've beat this game about 5 times, but this is the first time I tried to beat him. Since I only have one ability spot left, who should use magic or draw/cast? I had Quistis on Magic and Zell on draw/cast. Squall was my medic. Any tips would be great. Thanx, in advance!

I'd focus on slashing the guy with squall's Renzokuken and hoping for a lion heart. If you've got squall's final weapon it would help you a lot. I rarely use spells in FF8, except for Aura :). I'm surprised you got down to Ultima without Doomtrain...don't see how Ultima should be a problem if you got down there...butyeah, use Aura+Renzokuken+Limit Break for Squall with a strong weapon, or if you can't attack strong, i can't really help you. I'll let the magic people help there.

I suggest you level up more, get doomtrain if you really want him. Don't rely on limit break too much. They're not that helpful, besides they are only sidetracks. Focus on healing your character and don't rush on using limit breaks. Anyways if you really think ultima weapon is that hard, wait till you face the one in Ultimecia's castle where you pull a string to bring out a monster more powerful than any other monster's in the game.

Forget levelling and focus on junctioning. Get both Zell's and Squall's strength to 255 via strength +60% etc and junctioning Ultima or Flare to that stat. HP should be high as possible for all characters. Just use Quistis to heal and cast Aura/haste on the other characters.

Now, all you have to do is whore limit breaks until he is dead. After casting meltdown, Get Zell to use only his two basic Dual techniques as fast as you can by quickly hitting the buttons. With meltdown on Ultima, this should easily do 8000/9999 damage per hit, and if you're on low HP AND have aura on, you could get enough time to do in excess of 500000 damage per dual! This is more than enough to kill the WEAPON. Get Squall to use Renzokuken as usual and Ultima should go down rather quickly.


If possible though, make sure you have high speed and Auto Haste on all characters. It really helps.

Do not Mug this sucker or else you miss out on a pretty strong chance to get a great score of 100 Ultima Stones afterwards. Make sure, though, to draw Ultima for all three of your party. That is, assuming the strategies described above work for you to keep your characters alive.

What does it matter if you get 100 Ultima Stones or not, you get them without any trouble at the Shumi Village?

First off, I dont want to level up because I cant get out of the research center right now. Im low on potions for my ppl and my GF's. The only way for me to kill everything down there is my GF's, and my good one get ko'd before the fight with Ultima, then I run out of G-returners. I know I should just probably make my way back to the Ragnorak, stock up on everything I need, level up a little, and go back down there. Problem is, I did that before I went down there. I guess I'll spend a little more time on the Island closest to heaven/hell to level up a bit. But it was a pain in the ass tryna get down there with all the battles, and its really gonna take a lot more time getting out of there and then back down there. Anyway to bypass all that battle shit?

Junction the Auto-Haste ability (from Cerberus) to Squall. Junction 100 Hastes to each character's speed. Also junction Revive and Recover abilities to your party. Keep as many X-Potions, Mega Phoenixs, Elixirs, and Megalixirs at hand as possible. All characters must have 5000+ in order to keep your party alive. Heros and Holy Wars can prove quite benefical. If any of your characters have a level that is the multiple of 5, junction as many Death magics to status defense. With your characters set in this manner, use all your abilities to inflict damage.

Ultima Weapon will most likely attack with Light Pillar and kill one of your characters. Quickly revive your character with recovery magic or a Mega Phoenix. Cast Meltdown on Ultima Weapon and Aura on Squall and let him unleash his Renzokuken. Due to your high speed attribute you'll be able to attack several times before Ultima counters. Ultima Weapon will be defeated after 3 to 4 Renzokukens. Lion Heart will automatically dispatch him instantly. Make sure to draw the Eden GF some time throughout the battle.

Social Distortion --- I believe avoiding all those battles involves going down there with Zell in your party. Either that, or going with it. I'm pretty sure it is dependent on Zell though.

Oh, and there is a hidden save point in the room where you use the RSP to unlock the Ultima Weapon battle. Make sure you activate Siren's Move-Find, use a tent and save. That should solve the problem with your GFs too.

Rude666 --- some people just like having the 100 stones and drawing from Shumi Village takes forever. Stop posting stuff for the sole purpose of stirring up trouble.

Ah, always a mistake to rely on GFs, they'll be useless in disc 4 anyway. If you want to go up there again it's your choice, you just went in well under-prepared.

Yeah, I'm afraid GFs are generally garbage for the most part later on, except for the junctioning abilities and skills that they provide you.

GF’s are useless for attacking PERIOD. There is never a point in the game where you could do more damage with a GF then you could do with a Limit break. The only GF you may consider to use offensively is Eden, and even then one half decent Rezokuken would probably do more damage.

Yeah, I'm afraid GFs are generally garbage for the most part later on, except for the junctioning abilities and skills that they provide you.
yes, such as auto-haste,protect, etc...
Anyways if the g/f is good enough and you don't wait that long for it to attack, I say g/f can kill ultima without much effort.

GF�s are useless for attacking PERIOD. There is never a point in the game where you could do more damage with a GF then you could do with a Limit break. The only GF you may consider to use offensively is Eden, and even then one half decent Rezokuken would probably do more damage.

What are you on about?
You'll probably die if you dont have the GF's right at the start and for the next couple of disks onwards

I’m serious. They are completely and utterly useless offensively. Even the defensive ones have limited uses, and the most useful of those (Doomtrain) can’t be obtained until disk 3. The only thing GF’s are good for are abilities (and stat junctioning, obviously).

You dont know what your talking about. They are extremly useful at the start offensively, you would die, no doubt it

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I've never suffered any adverse effects from not using GF's at all in battle. As long as you know how to junction, keeping Squall on Critical health will get you through the entire game.

They are extremly useful at the start

Yeah, true, at the start they are very helpfull, then it's just Renzokuken (or however you spell it).

But relying on GF's at that stage of the game is much better than relying on Squall at critical

Not really. GF's take forever to change, and then you have to sit through their animation each time you use them. Renzokuken is over in a few seconds. Add to that the fact that Renzokuken does more damage....

Not really. GF's take forever to change, and then you have to sit through their animation each time you use them. Renzokuken is over in a few seconds. Add to that the fact that Renzokuken does more damage....
haha, your gf must really be weak.

haha, your gf must really be weak.

Not necessary man...i raised my gfs till lvl 100 and raised their compatability with my main party and i still find them useless except for their abilities...limit breaks are way better man...the only really useful gfs offense wise are doomtrain and eden...and you can beat omega wapon summoning only doomtrain!

Ultima Weapon is piss easy? Go to island closest to hell, if you have enc-none from Diablo then just keep clicking until you find draws, if you don't have enc-none, go to the island where you find the giant cactuar and get ap off them or get Quistis in critical, keep pressing triangle until she gets her limit break and use the end. After a while you'll have heaps of good draws, and Ultima Weapon should be easy enough. Just use meltdown (if you have any) and aura on squall, keep pressing triangle until he gets his limit break and then use Renzokuken.

Also: I only used GF's for most of the early part of disk 1, but i draw whored off every monster so I didn't really need them =/

Not necessary man...i raised my gfs till lvl 100 and raised their compatability with my main party and i still find them useless except for their abilities...limit breaks are way better man...the only really useful gfs offense wise are doomtrain and eden...and you can beat omega wapon summoning only doomtrain!
naw I can kill him using only moomba moomba

Not necessary man...i raised my gfs till lvl 100 and raised their compatability with my main party and i still find them useless except for their abilities...limit breaks are way better man...the only really useful gfs offense wise are doomtrain and eden...and you can beat omega wapon summoning only doomtrain!

If you read what I said earlier, I didnt say that they were any good at the later stages, I said that they were indespensable at the start.
But that Ominous guy says that he dont agree

Not necessary man...i raised my gfs till lvl 100 and raised their compatability with my main party and i still find them useless except for their abilities...limit breaks are way better man...the only really useful gfs offense wise are doomtrain and eden...and you can beat omega wapon summoning only doomtrain!

If you read what I said earlier, I said that I didnt think that they were any good at the later stages, I said that they were indespensable at the start.
But that Ominous guy dont agree

I used Selphie's limit break "The End" to kill both Ultima Weapon and Omega Weapon. I casted Hero Stone (I'm not sure if that's what's it's called, I had to refine it from cards) so that I would be invinsible while trying to get "The End".

I used Selphie's limit break "The End" to kill both Ultima Weapon and Omega Weapon. I casted Hero Stone (I'm not sure if that's what's it's called, I had to refine it from cards) so that I would be invinsible while trying to get "The End".

If you have all your party at lvl. 100 (it isn't all that hard), final weapons for your main party, and most/all GFs the battle should be a cinch. Try using Cerberus, then casting protect/shell on all characters, then casting Aura on Squall and one other strong character. Also try using Doomtrain to hurt his defenses. Keep up the Limit Breaks and after a few tries you'll probably come out victorious. Also having a few Heros can come in very handy. And do not forget to Draw Eden. If you don't then it make this whole odessy essentially worthless.

Thanx for the help. I beat him shortly after posting this thread, but for some reason didnt get email notifications and figured it was dead.


Ah, always a mistake to rely on GFs, they'll be useless in disc 4 anyway. If you want to go up there again it's your choice, you just went in well under-prepared.

First off, I was well prepared. Stocked up on 100 of everything (healing items/magic). Its ppl like you that doubt me that really make me wanna finish it my way. I made my way back a little further to level up a bit and went back to Omega. He was done for in about 10 minutes. Dont doubt me...i may be a "newbie" to this thread but have been playing these games for about 5 years and beat this one numerous times already. Just didnt try getting omega before.

well gf's are usseless except for defense get yor auto-recover i think you get from leviathan and get recover to whoever has auto-recover and use recover on weak players. also cerberus and my fool-proof strategy triple meteor or ultima garanteed to weaken anything If you have a good magic user. and Lionheart is also your best bet.

Meh you can just card mod your Laguna Card and you will have plenty of heroes for your party to win the battle easy. Oh and keep everyone at low heath so you can use limit breaks.

I would get everyone to low health (having Selphie will be helpful), caste Meltdown on him, use either 3 Heroes or 1 Holy War, then just unleash Lionheart and Renzokuken on him. Or to make this battle a lot shorter, just use Selphie's "The End" limit break on him after drawing Eden.

Simple Strategy:

Let's say for arguements sake your using Squall, Zell and Irvine

Cast haste on Zell, cast Triple on Zell with other character. Cast Triple Aura. Use a holy-war. Proceed to beat the living daylights out of Omega. Easy.

I did that, but I guess my speed wasn't up to par because he seemed to be able to do his Light Pillar move and killed everyone before I got the Holy War on everyone. But after I equipped Initiative to someone and Auto-Haste on two others, I had an easier time.

I did that, but I guess my speed wasn't up to par because he seemed to be able to do his Light Pillar move and killed everyone before I got the Holy War on everyone.

You sir have very bad luck.

You sir have very bad luck.

You can also try using Rinoa wishing star while invincible + Squall's Renzokuken. Try using defend to reduce the physical damage to 0

You sir have very bad luck.
Yes, he did that almost everytime as his first move... I was getting pissed :p. lol

Yes, he did that almost everytime as his first move... I was getting pissed :p. lol

You can't be serious. He's only used it on me a couple of times, but it only happened near the end of the battle. Were you using Zell?

Yes, he did that almost everytime as his first move... I was getting pissed :p. lol

If your team is incredibly strong omega weapon wil be incredibly strong as well use his strongest moves one downside of the game

If your team is incredibly strong omega weapon wil be incredibly strong as well use his strongest moves one downside of the game
Squall, Selphie, and Zell were all at lvl. 100 and a few of their stats were maxed out. But I had no idea that Omega would be harder depending on the stats of your characters. No wonder it took me like 45 minutes to beat him without using The End.