i played it....it hated me

its hard, not because it takes skilll...but the characters are so darn SLOW...

...you dont get to keep the first ones so levelling up seems pointless...

...the style is all jumpy...

...the music annoying (well done uematsu)...

..saving takes almost a MINUTE...

...its lifeless and predictable and THE FINAL BOSS IS RIDICULOUS ...

...and i deleted the save so i had to statrt again

although some bits are good so people....dont scimitar my cecil
oh yeah i probably hate it cus ff6 was so much better

THAT IS ALL.....for now

The only thing I can agree with you about is that FF 6 is better, Then, of course, it is my favorite Final Fantas to date. I do have a question: Did you play it on Snes, or PSX? Beacuse the PSX port was farily slow. And, as for the whole: Why level up the characters that are going to leave, why play the game at all if your not willing to have fun with it and make your characters strong enough for you to do well in the game. Not leveling them up and using the fact that they are not with you the entire time is just lazyness on your part.

i played it....it hated me

its hard, not because it takes skilll...but the characters are so darn SLOW...

...you dont get to keep the first ones so levelling up seems pointless...

...the style is all jumpy...

...the music annoying (well done uematsu)...

..saving takes almost a MINUTE...

...its lifeless and predictable and THE FINAL BOSS IS RIDICULOUS ...

...and i deleted the save so i had to statrt again

although some bits are good so people....dont scimitar my cecil
oh yeah i probably hate it cus ff6 was so much better

THAT IS ALL.....for now
raidenex will slay you now

I actually liked FFIV, it is pretty awesome.

Also: jiro, is that the dude that had the girl as a hand in your avatar?

No way. Final Fantasy IV had its faults (particularly translation problems and the whole easytype/hardtype quagmire), but overall it's a good game. Not my favorite, but good. The music I had no problems with --- there was a lot of good music, especially the World Map theme. Overall battle difficulty --- tough --- but not annoying though, just hard, especially on the hardtype. And definitely a tough final boss.

Yeah, the game's awesome, what are you smoking?

raidenex will slay you now

haha, what? FF4 is my least favourite FF of all time.

Apart from the obvious lack of eloquence, the gentleman does have a few points. The game is overly difficult - the story takes a long time to pick up, and compared to other Final Fantasies, the lack of control over who is in your party can be annoying.

That said, I love a lot of the music in it. To be honest, i've never really played far past the bit where Cecil becomes a Paladin, but i'm looking forward to getting the GBA version and completing it. Apparently it's cleaned up the translation a lot, which should make it better!

ya the game SUCKED

ya the game SUCKED

quite right you are......ive been playing it all day and im feeling sick now.....and its SO FRUSTRATING....yes im on a ps1, yes i am lazy and the battles are boring and frustrating and ive pretty much got the majority of the final party now, and this time i WILL COMPLETE IT......and not delete the save

thank you all for your impudence

haha, what? FF4 is my favourite FF of all time.
^^

It's my favorite too!

Whoa, uh, hello Smokey. You're... back? General FF Rumble's still going strong, in a brand-new thread. Stop by, eh?


Er, right FFIV. I really liked some of the characters. This one had my second-favorite Cid.

If you're playing on PS1, then you missed the ever famous "You spoony bard!" line. No wonder you aren't enjoying it.

All joking aside, FFIV requires only patience, and then it's a rather fun game. I personally liked the challenge. Also, FFIV had very good characterization in comparison to the earlier FFs. As for the music, I loved it and can't see what's wrong with it.

Of course, this is all coming from the one who beat FFI with all thieves, so my perspective on patience is a little different...

If you're playing on PS1, then you missed the ever famous "You spoony bard!" line. No wonder you aren't enjoying it.

All joking aside, FFIV requires only patience, and then it's a rather fun game. I personally liked the challenge. Also, FFIV had very good characterization in comparison to the earlier FFs. As for the music, I loved it and can't see what's wrong with it.

Of course, this is all coming from the one who beat FFI with all thieves, so my perspective on patience is a little different...
I'm glad that most of you agree that it's a game worth playing. I haven't played it, and after debating over 6 and 4, I chose 4 to play next. But I'm the kind of player that levels up all my characters, so I will research who will be leaving the party early. (thank you for that)

'K, just so long as you don't do any research on that when you get to FFV. Trust me, it's not necessary and it might end up spoiling you. (P.S. --- You are going to play V, right? It's better than IV, though not better than VI.)

If you're playing on PS1, then you missed the ever famous "You spoony bard!" line. No wonder you aren't enjoying it.

All joking aside, FFIV requires only patience, and then it's a rather fun game. I personally liked the challenge. Also, FFIV had very good characterization in comparison to the earlier FFs. As for the music, I loved it and can't see what's wrong with it.

Of course, this is all coming from the one who beat FFI with all thieves, so my perspective on patience is a little different...

no it is in there.....silly moo

yeah some of the music is actually quite good (im getting into it now) but that STUPID BRICK WALL was ridiculous and very frustrating and had the worst music ever in a game or anywhere else.....uematsu couldnt be bothered to write more than 8 bars *raves*

^^

It's my favorite too!
did you just EDIT that quote? how evil

Speaking of editing, you can edit your previous post if you have something more to say, or change/add.

Evil Wall is indeed truly evil, but, hey, the bosses are supposed to be tough.

Personally I liked FF 4. Part of that may be because it was one of the first FFs I ever played, but it still was pretty cool. I played it as a ROM on my emulator first, and in that one I liked some parts of the translation better than the PSX re-release. The saving function was actually REALLY fast on the SNES in comparison. Another re-release flaw was that the music always restarts after battle, which sucks... I'm almost positive the snes one didn't have restarting music. As for the songs themselves, I really liked many of the tracks... for example the world map songs are quite good.

Slow? I ripped imps a new asshole when I downloaded that game on my old computer and I was a complete n00b to FF.. (I'd probably have beaten it but I never figured out how to save my progress.)

Though with the little time I did spend playing I developed a strong hatred for Cecil, he whines too much..

Slow? I ripped imps a new asshole when I downloaded that game on my old computer and I was a complete n00b to FF.. (I'd probably have beaten it but I never figured out how to save my progress.)

Though with the little time I did spend playing I developed a strong hatred for Cecil, he whines too much..

cecil i hate too....his white magic is pathetic
as for kain, he has no variety to his attacks and is really boring
rosas a little more interesting, but she doesnt say a lot....
and rydia ROCKS......she should have kept white magic cus cecils was useless I DONT CARE
i hated cid, the twins were cool but annoying at the same time, yang was fun, fusoya i dont remember, tellah was ok but his mp was stupidly low....who have i forgotten?

also what bugs me about the game is the magic animations....theyre just so jumpy and flat and silly...yeuch

enough raving for now...

cecil i hate too....his white magic is pathetic
as for kain, he has no variety to his attacks and is really boring
rosas a little more interesting, but she doesnt say a lot....
and rydia ROCKS......she should have kept white magic cus cecils was useless I DONT CARE
i hated cid, the twins were cool but annoying at the same time, yang was fun, fusoya i dont remember, tellah was ok but his mp was stupidly low....who have i forgotten?

also what bugs me about the game is the magic animations....theyre just so jumpy and flat and silly...yeuch

enough raving for now...
What bugs me is this is a pathetic summarization of why you dislike the game.

And how can you not like Cid jumping off the airship and blowing himself up and then surviving?

Yeah, FFIV Cid rocks. He reminds me a lot of my favorite Cid, Final Fantasy VII's. I think a lot of FFVII Cid's personality can be directly traced to the Cid from this game.

What bugs me is this is a pathetic summarization of why you dislike the game.

that was just a character evaluation....

ive completed it now....it has a real bad ending. possibly the worst game ive ever played.

*edit button you mook*

I didn't hate it it just needed a better ending,and better characters.
If you noticed the spotlight changes dramatically on Cecil.

clearly this thread was started by chewey. you're a horrible horrible person chewey.

TroutSlap!

I guess you could say this final fantasy is the least favorite of america,but I think it was alot better than FF1.I think the only good thing about this game was it didn't cost that much to buy it. the story wasn't all that bad though I thought it was cool how cecil went from dark knight to paladin.

I guess you could say this final fantasy is the least favorite of america,but I think it was alot better than FF1.I think the only good thing about this game was it didn't cost that much to buy it. the story wasn't all that bad though I thought it was cool how cecil went from dark knight to paladin.
Final Fantasy IV (or II on the SNES) is what made the series what it is today. And what's this business about not costing much to buy? It was only $30. That's still an adequate price, even for a remake. The story is excellent, and the love triangle between Rosa, Cecil, and Kain has a lot to do with it. And cecil becoming a Paladin and getting rid of his evil self was a great event.

I like FF4 but I think there are better ones.Dont misunderstand it deserves a loyal fan like you!But it didn't take that long to make.$30.00 is alot cheaper than what the first release of FFX it was $99.99
including tax!

I like FF4 but I think there are better ones.Dont misunderstand it deserves a loyal fan like you!But it didn't take that long to make.$30.00 is alot cheaper than what the first release of FFX it was $99.99
including tax!
There aren't many I consider to be better than FFIV. FFVI, is still to me, the best in the series, followed closely by FFX. So I guess it's third.

Hey I think FF4 was better than FFT,but my personal favorite is FF7.What would you rate FF4-1 out of 5.
I rate it 2/5.I think its got one of the best love stories.

Hey I think FF4 was better than FFT,but my personal favorite is FF7.What would you rate FF4-1 out of 5.
I rate it 2/5.I think its got one of the best love stories.
A rating of 2/5 means that its a really bad game. 3 is average. And I don't go as low as 5 being the potential. Means there is less room for error in rating what is great, and what is just good. I'd give it 9/10, easily.

A rating of 2/5 means that its a really bad game. 3 is average. And I don't go as low as 5 being the potential. Means there is less room for error in rating what is great, and what is just good. I'd give it 9/10, easily.

you sicken me

I'm a few hours into FFIV now (playing it for the first time) and I really don't see how anyone could dislike it. The gameplay is well-paced with a pretty good variety of enemies and tactics, the plot is decent enough, and the graphics have aged well.

I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion.. But how dare anyone say they hate FFIV.

Besides VI, IV was a damn good game. I'd put it close to a masterpiece. You are talking to the self-proclaimed FFIV Goddess. I've been playing and beating that game since I was 7 years old. I OWN that game on 4 different systems. Thats right. 4. I am the walking, talking, living, breathing, FF4 strategy guide. And I have the FFIV piano collections CD which I listen to from time to time.

I thought the story was definately good for its time, and so was the music. I fell in love with the story, the music, and the characters.

I'm currently working through FFIV Advance to see what all the extra goodies are...

I guess you could say this final fantasy is the least favorite of america
Doubtful. I think it's V that gets the least respect.

As for IV, I like it pretty well, though not as much as V or VI.

Actually I think in some areas V got the most attention than IV, maybe for reasons people didn't really play IV. Who knows, but from what I heard V was better than IV. But I disagree, IV does seem better than V.

I think III and V get less attention right now, but once FFV Advance comes out it will garner more attention from everyone(in general), I might be wrong though.

IV was certainly a good game in the series. It was what pretty much put Squaresoft on the map, and showed potential for what was to come. And besides, where can you go wrong with Edge?

IV was certainly a good game in the series. It was what pretty much put Squaresoft on the map, and showed potential for what was to come. And besides, where can you go wrong with Edge?

edge? EDGE? you mean the dude who gets killed in two attacks even though hes really cool cus hes a ninja and hes got steal and throw and cool useless magic.........i think ill just shut up about hating the game now cus some people seem to love it....maybe its because ide had enough of tactic-deprived turn based only-ever-use-about-a-tenth-of-your-spells train-fests......though i still love VI

I liked Egde for his personality, he was a smartass, and a funny one at that.

I actually enjoyed Final Fantasy IV to be honest, the characters had depth and the storyline was interesting, always changing events, yeah.

Keep in mind I have only played it the way it should be played.
(SNES)
=]

The reason no one liked this game was because they played up until about the time where Cecil turns Paladin.

If they could just move on past that, I think people would realize that this game had a lot going on.

Sure it had its lame moments, but what FF doesn't?
This is a game that you actually have to get into and play.

About the whole "why level up party members if they are just going to leave?"
It's part of the game!

Plus, the party memebers who aren't with you, level up with the characters you are using.

This is a great game, definately in my top 3 of favorite FFs.

The music was better thank OK but not excellent.
The battles were tough and you really had to stratagize and use your characters to your fullest.

The storyline wasn't the greatest but I personally liked the personalitys of the characters.

']Keep in mind I have only played it the way it should be played.
(SNES)
=]

The reason no one liked this game was because they played up until about the time where Cecil turns Paladin.

If they could just move on past that, I think people would realize that this game had a lot going on.

Sure it had its lame moments, but what FF doesn't?
This is a game that you actually have to get into and play.

About the whole "why level up party members if they are just going to leave?"
It's part of the game!

Plus, the party memebers who aren't with you, level up with the characters you are using.

This is a great game, definately in my top 3 of favorite FFs.

The music was better thank OK but not excellent.
The battles were tough and you really had to stratagize and use your characters to your fullest.

The storyline wasn't the greatest but I personally liked the personalitys of the characters.
Call God you have just said the most ungodly thing ever I actually played Past the Paladin part and yet 4 still sucked ass. The graphics were good for Gba standards, and not so slow but the story ...ugghh I hated it, the dark night becomes a holy Paladin get real. Plus the amount of deaths was horrific and idiotic. This game deserves to be taken to the FF vault and shot dead then incenerated for pure joy.

No shit,

GBA sucks.

Call God you have just said the most ungodly thing ever I actually played Past the Paladin part and yet 4 still sucked ass.
Let's start by not using run-on sentences, shall we?

The graphics were good for Gba standards, and not so slow
That's irrelevant anyway because the GBA release is a re-release, and if you're going to discuss a re-release of a game, you say so in the thread title.

but the story ...ugghh I hated it, the dark night becomes a holy Paladin get real.
I can't extract your meaning from these words? Are you trying to say it's unrealistic? Or do you think it's corny? I can't refute your claim until I know what it is.

Plus the amount of deaths was horrific and idiotic.
*Spoiler* If you played through the entire game, then you should have noticed that most of those people didn't actually die. All of them except Anna and Tellah end up alive in the end...

This game deserves to be taken to the FF vault and shot dead then incenerated for pure joy.
This sentence makes minimal sense, and the word is "incinerate."

The only thing i didn't like about the game.



SPOILERS

The fact that your party members were so quick to sacrifice themselves, it felt like their deaths were cheap since everyone was doing it.


keep in mind i didn't finish it, so i didn't realise they don't all end up dead.


but i loved the music,

ARE YOU PEOPLE DENSE???? ok seriously this game is tied for first (or even first!) for a 2D game! you have GOT to have some mental issues to think this is the WORST final fantasy game... and if anything it would be ff-X/X2 because of the pansy tidus always complaining and being such a wimp (infact he should be called tidass) and yuna is always being such a pansy with her "i don't mean to be selfish but this is my story" and how she is ALWAYS being such an annoyance! (i think i spelled that right...) *sigh* you people think what you want but ff4 kicks! ...for the 2D games anyways...


(PS. sory to all of the ffX/X-2 fans but this is how i feel 'cause those game sucked ass!)

ARE YOU PEOPLE DENSE???? ok seriously this game is tied for first (or even first!) for a 2D game! you have GOT to have some mental issues to think this is the WORST final fantasy game... and if anything it would be ff-X/X2 because of the pansy tidus always complaining and being such a wimp (infact he should be called tidass) and yuna is always being such a pansy with her "i don't mean to be selfish but this is my story" and how she is ALWAYS being such an annoyance! (i think i spelled that right...) *sigh* you people think what you want but ff4 kicks! ...for the 2D games anyways...


(PS. sory to all of the ffX/X-2 fans but this is how i feel 'cause those game sucked ass!)
People who don't like FFIV are entitled to their opinion just as much as you are, but to say that people are dense right off the bat for not liking it is something you shouldn't do.

It's not like people haven't been called much worse around here for even less reason.

Besides, I think if we're going to break out the stupid-beater on DarkDemiRose, it should be for that silly "Waaaahhh, I didn't like the characters so FFX is the worst ever" attitude.

It's not like people haven't been called much worse around here for even less reason.

Besides, I think if we're going to break out the stupid-beater on DarkDemiRose, it should be for that silly "Waaaahhh, I didn't like the characters so FFX is the worst ever" attitude.
it's not like i was the only person who was like that because all of you seem to be doing it too

Doing what exactly? You're the only person who's come into this thread acting like that. Everyone else has simply discussed the merits/demerits of the game, rather than taking the opportunity to whine about how they didn't like the characters in another game that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

it's not like i was the only person who was like that because all of you seem to be doing it too

The fact that you don't like the characters only sometimes reflects the quality of the character development, and that's only if you're supposed to like them. Granted, I thought Tidus was overly whiny, and Yuna's voice actress (in the English version, at least) was awful, but the characters were very well done. They underwent changes, something that hasn't happened too often in Final Fantasy, with a few exceptions.

My advice to you is that if you want to make fun of someone, make fun of stupid things that they say rather than calling them names.

I didn't mind it though it can be depressing the way you think everyone dies

I started playing final fantasy 4 and i have to say that is a very nice game, however i hate when i fight monsters that i cant beat without using magic

anyone who dislike FFIV for any reason whatsoever imo is an ass

anyone who dislike FFIV for any reason whatsoever imo is an ass

Sorry, I can't take you seriously with an avatar like that.

FF IV was the first Final Fantasy I ever played. I'm still here, waiting for FF XII to come out. They must've done -SOMETHING- right.

Also, the PSX port can be very frustrating due to loading times, but not due to game difficulty (the actual game is solid and at the correct challenge level, the main load problem is saving to a memory card; this was annoying. However, that's endemic to ALL the ported FFs, so it's a moot point). Sure, the dialogue's a bit primitive, but I was certainly absorbed by the story regardless.

I also like leveling the characters up. I did find it extremely strange, though, that Palom can learn Meteo, and can do so realistically, before you ever meet Tellah on Mt. Ordeals. In fact, Rydia can also learn it before you even leave Mt. Hobs! I had this little green-haired girl firing Meteo all over the place, along with a crapload of Tents. She would have kicked the living shit out of Golbez, for sure...but Fabul unfolds the same way regardless of character development.

I think FF IV Advance allows you to retain characters you've met; I always did miss some of the ones you aren't allowed to keep. (There's another strange thing; you can steal Lamia Harps from...Lamias (duh), but by the time you meet them, Edward's gone and no one else can equip harps :/).

Hmm I think I tried to play FFIV a couple of years ago but the battle music really turned me off :/
Maybe I should give it another go...

Oh, you obviously haven't heard "Waltz of the Dolls"
I would play through the game just to hear it.

While IV is not as good as V or VI, its still a pretty great game. Having said that though, it has aged pretty poorly.

ARE YOU PEOPLE DENSE???? ok seriously this game is tied for first (or even first!) for a 2D game! you have GOT to have some mental issues to think this is the WORST final fantasy game... and if anything it would be ff-X/X2 because of the pansy tidus always complaining and being such a wimp (infact he should be called tidass) and yuna is always being such a pansy with her "i don't mean to be selfish but this is my story" and how she is ALWAYS being such an annoyance! (i think i spelled that right...) *sigh* you people think what you want but ff4 kicks! ...for the 2D games anyways...


(PS. sory to all of the ffX/X-2 fans but this is how i feel 'cause those game sucked ass!)

tidass...rofl....yeah i agree with you, but ffx is still my fav game ever....xenosaga is a close second!!!!!!

im not a big fan of FFIV, but that may be because its one of the only ones I haven't beaten...I'm trying to get FF4 for gba than ill make my statements about the game...i played the ps version but the doors in one dungeon kept killing me.....yeah....i prefer ff5 and ff6

Well, FFIV has many positive and negative points. I for one found the constant character deaths/incapacitations very irratating for it was always a trial to get used to the constant change of abilities. However the story was good enough to move the game forward, even though it does become fiddly at times. There is a lot of character development there though, especially where Cecil is concerned, which really allows you to empathise with the characters. There are many more points but i can't be bothered to go on

I really enjoyed the constant change in characters. Because unlike future FFs, you couldn't keep the same group of people in your party the whole game and grind them up to extremely high levels.

Also, it makes battles tougher, having to sratetegize with current character abilities.
There were a lot of points in the game where there would be excessive boss battles in a row, with the constant change of characters.

I liked how it definately made the game challenging.

Well thats one way to look at it.

I actually liked FFIV. I thought it was way better than FFII. And I still think the "Red Wings" theme rocks.

-Mikeymike360

;622328']Oh, you obviously haven't heard "Waltz of the Dolls"
I would play through the game just to hear it.

You don't mean facing Calbrena... That song fucking pissed me off!

The rest of the music was amazing, though. I particularly liked Golbez's theme.

It's really shameful with you damn kids these days, all spoiled with your 3-D graphics and characters with gigantic polygon tits... In my day we had to jerk-off to 8-bit blocks! And if you really lucky, you got 16 bits!


Seriously, if you hate Final Fantasy IV, you need to

1. Get your head out of your ass.
2. Stop worshiping Final Fantasy VII
3. Not play games based on your libido (That's what it boils down to)
4. Play an acutally good game like Final Fantasy IV

It was ok.
I rate Cecil as one of the top FF main characters ever. He's too cool.
I liked the characters coming and going. Kept me on my toes, I never knew what was gonna happen next.

where i can play this game and others FF classic on pc version...

where i can play this game and others FF classic on pc version...

Google 'snes roms'.

Need to download emulator too.

Go now my foriegn friend.. dont talk.. just go..

Go now my foriegn friend.. dont talk.. just go..
i dunno why...but i must be more careful around here...more...more...

Google 'snes roms'.

Need to download emulator too.

Go now my foriegn friend.. dont talk.. just go..

Don't advise people to download games they can buy. He can play it just as easily (probably more so) if he has a GBA or DS.

Yeah I guess. He doesnt have to do what I say.
And emulators are a "month trial" or something, right?

No, they're completely illegal in most cases. While I really don't see a problem with emulating older games that are out of print and not available on current systems, there's no excuse for doing that with a game like FFIV, which has had two releases in the past few years.

Fair enough.

Off topic, did the American version of FF6 fro playstation have extras on the main title screen?
Its just that the European version had heaps of extras but 6 was released on its own. I hear the American version was packed with FF5.
Theres an enemy bio part and you can check your finishing stats and compare them with other save files. Plus theres an fmv viewing section etc.

FF4 wasn't so bad, i absolutely hate tactics... in which i believe is really FF6.

i absolutely hat tactics... in which i believe is really FF6.

Now youve done it.

Now youve done it.

done what? Am i not aloud to state my opinion?

done what? Am i not aloud to state my opinion?

Oh of course youre allowed to.
Just Prak will tear you apart for it.

Nope. No need there. And just for the record, those weren't opinions. They were facts relating to a single person's like or dislike of something.

Sure whatever, my fault.:-D
Me saying "i hate FF6" isn't a personal opinion of mine, it is a fact alright.
I got it.
LOL Doug, No worries Prak isn't scary, he's just precise.

it used to be my fav, (was my first) but now i just mostly like IV;

i'm surprised to see so many dislike the music, it's my favorite FF track (second only to mystic quest (if you include that) ) and favorite part of IV. favs would be boss battle, battle, red wings, well nevermind they are mostly totally amazing.

the story was good, and the main five characters were solid.

but as i continue to play it thru the years i'm growing disappointed that it seems the leveling is identical for each game (up to lv 70, and then there are random increases) which hurts the replayability significantly for me.

as far as ports/remakes; i've played SNES and GBA, and the GBA feels like everything was way-over-balanced and also much less challenge. to me it was more boring than it could have been but still a fun game, altho next time playing IV will probably not be the GBA remake.

raidenex will slay you now

INDEED!!!

Hell, I loved FFIV. It's one of my favorites to this day. And Edge is still one of my favorite Final Fantasy characters ever. xD; The plot was kinda corny, but really, so are the plots for most FF games.

But I personally liked the music, especially the songs "Them of Love" and "Mystic Mysidia".

I liked it. Sure you never get to keep the characters for too long, but levelling up is so easy, just train around a town for a bit. The game wasn't hard for me at all. Plus it has "You spoony bard" in :)

i got quite far on the psone remake. I probably would have levelled up if i bothered to level up enough to beat a certain boss...

Wha? FFIV is my 2nd favorite FF, only behind the almight VI. Sure it was a bit hard at times(Evil Wall comes to mind), but it rocked! I loved the music, the characters(except Palom and Porom), and how the relationships between the characters was bouncing all around through the entire game.

MAybe it's not the best FF, but is enjoyable, though, in my opinion the final fantasy that rocks is Final Fantasy VI.

not enought extras, summans to hard to kill ffs batamut is imposible unless u waste a whole gd weekend lvling up cannot be arsed, i'll stick to the rest

While certainly not the best I prefer FFIV to anything in the series post Tactics. Sure some of the characters got on my nerves but others like Kain, Rydia, and Tellah are among my favorites in any game. Actually enjoyed that FFIV was a bit harder than most other games in the series, nothing extreme but you couldn't just swing a weapon to win the fights either. Also the story was very entertaining until the end, the ending is actually my only gripe with this game.

I don't understand why someone wouldn't like this game, but if you don't, just don't play it.

I don't hate it but it's probably my least favourite in the series. Apart from a certain 'charm' that it manages to maintain throughout the story, the game really doesn't have a lot going for it. While the battle system was an improvement over its predecessors the ability system was a step down from previous games, featuring a rather cliché ‘gain skills as you level up’ system rather than the superior job system that had been seen in FFIIIj. While this gave the characters individuality, you are never given the opportunity to choose your party and by the end of the game you were using the same 5 character anyway, leaving you with little flexibility. Said characters had clearly just been dumped with a host of abilities that were class-specific in previous FF games to try and compensate for the lack of diversity.

The story was pretty decent for an RPG of its time, but it’s nothing special by today’s standards. This wouldn’t be a great problem if there wasn’t such an emphasis on said story, unlike FFIII and FFV which focused more on gameplay. While FFIII/V have pretty average stories, the gameplay was innovative enough that they manage to be more entertaining than a vast array of later RPGs. Gameplay tends to be what I looks for in the NES-SNES generation of FF games as I know that in general I can find games with superior plots in the more recent generations (eg Xenosaga).

Still a pretty decent game, if only for its importance to the rest of the series. While it wasn’t utilised to its full potential, FFIV was still the first FF game to make use of the ATB battle system; something that would remain with the series until FFX. It was also the progenitor of a more character-driven style of storytelling in FF games that, while not anything special in FFIV itself, would later be utilised more successfully in games like FFVI, FFIX and FFX.

I did like FF IV quite a bit. Yeah it was hard,(well, the 'hardtype' anyway) and the characters had their own unique set of skills, stats, weaknesses, and strengths. Unlike later FFs were everyone basically ended up the same in almost every way.

Final Fantasy IV was my favorite of the entire series, actually. This may be purely for nostalgic reasons, as it was the first Final Fantasy game I played.

My only irk is the GameBoy Advance remake. It apparently did not go through test-play, and there were a number of things which were begging for innovation. (i.e., a new font and menu style would have been nice, as opposed to the retro style used in every damn game in the series)

Ahem. :)

Final Fantasy IV was possibly the most boring of all of them for me.

No wait, there was also VIII ...

The final boss is supposed to be tuff that's why he's at the end of the game...

The final boss is supposed to be tuff that's why he's at the end of the game...

And FF IV was no exception. FF IV hardtype Zeromus was just down right brutal! There were no 'secret summons' to use against Zeromus.(Knights of Round, Eden, Magus Sisters) And getting the best weapons was a challenge in itself.

You hate Final Fantasy 2/4?

What a sad person you are. I LOVE FF2/4, BTW, it's one of my favorite games of all time.

Bull, I am intitled to my own opinions.

You're freaking insane!!!!! FFIV is one of the best FFs ever! the only one that is bad in some areas was FFII! Though I do like it for it's highly customizable characters...

Please don't revive a thread merely to state your opinion. If you have something to contribute that hasn't been mentioned in the thread, then it's fine to revive it, but don't revive it under other circumstances.

right, okay...

I wasn't really talking to you. You "revive" a thread typically when you post in it a couple of weeks after the most recent post.

Definitely not one of my favorite Final Fantasy games. I never took much liking to this entry in the series, but I do not hate it.

Hey!
FFIV is awesome. BUT NOT II US!!!
Heh, sorry. I just beat hardtype, see, and am makeing a FFIV fangame...
FFVI is better, but...

A FFIV fangame...

what is that like?

FFIV is a great game! It was the first FF game I was really crazy about - I played it when I was 8!

I just replayed on GBA for nostalgia and I think it's aged pretty well. The main characters are still pretty great - Rydia, Edge, and Kain particularly. One of the top groups of people in any FF game IMO.

The gameplay is a little stale/old fashioned I'll admit, but hey, it's an old game. Also not sure why everyone was complaining about it being too hard? The new GBA version has the ability to bring back the old characters for a little variety in the gameplay so try that one if you're interested.

How does one end up "hating" a FF game? I don't hate any of them. If someone doesn't like a game, just don't play it. Nuff said.

Lol, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.

i played it....it hated me

its hard, not because it takes skilll...but the characters are so darn SLOW...
Then go level up in order to help with this problem

...you dont get to keep the first ones so levelling up seems pointless...
Leveling up is part of an RPG. And the characters are recycled throughout the game. (SPOILERS!) Heck in FFIV GBA, at the end they (spoilers alert again) you eventually get to change your party with all the characters according to the guide book.

...the style is all jumpy...
Eloborate please

...the music annoying (well done uematsu)...
That is your opinion.

..saving takes almost a MINUTE...
Not in the advance version, the one I own

...its lifeless and predictable and THE FINAL BOSS IS RIDICULOUS ...
Considering when it was made, having a story was a plus. THe final boss being ridicolous is once again opinionated

...and i deleted the save so i had to statrt again
And that is a minus to the game on a whole... It isn't like everyone is going to delete their save file by mistake

although some bits are good so people....dont scimitar my cecil
oh yeah i probably hate it cus ff6 was so much better
A game being inferior to another does not make a game inferior on a whole.

THAT IS ALL.....for now

Read the bold...

Read the date. As in the date the message you're responding to was originally posted.

Read the date. As in the date the message you're responding to was originally posted.

I didn't notice that. I usually assume most threads (unless 50+ pages long) are created in the current year.

Okay, so Final Fantsy IV may have been bad for the PS2 (because, well, they all sound are inferior to their GBA counterpart) or the SNES (by today standards of course) in terms of timing and lag, but nowadays, that problem is gone.

Yes, it's amazing how long this thread has survived. It's probably outlived its usefulness.

And yeah, definitely outdated for the PS2, but then again, that can be said of any of the older ones, really.

I don't like 4 very much either.

I can't say I dislike the game, but it didn't appeal to me as much as V or VI. I did lilke the game though, but to me V and VI had the better game play, such as jobs in V and Blitz moves in VI :D

honestly, its a boring game. the leveling up thing is pointless like the thread starter said because you lose a character every 5 minutes because he or she leaves the party. i mean this happens WAY THE HELL TOO OFTEN. the inventory space is way too limited. the fat chocobo thing is garbage because you'll be in an area where there are 85 different items available and you can't get shit because the fat chocobo space is halfway around the world.
what was square thinking???

honestly, its a boring game. the leveling up thing is pointless like the thread starter said because you lose a character every 5 minutes because he or she leaves the party. i mean this happens WAY THE HELL TOO OFTEN. the inventory space is way too limited. the fat chocobo thing is garbage because you'll be in an area where there are 85 different items available and you can't get shit because the fat chocobo space is halfway around the world.
what was square thinking???

Not quite. Once you get Edge your party rarely changes anymore. You just lose one member and gain another, but the one you gain is STRONG!

thats sorta true, but at the same time you still lose kain, then you get fusoya, then you lose fusoya and get kain, etc. its just lame to me. you don't get to enjoy your party til the end of the game. wtf is with that.

also, does anybody know how to get ribbons in this game? edge has the steal ability, but who should i be stealing from to get some crazy equipment? i haven't found a single guide yet that told me how to get 5 ribbons for my team.

i played it....it hated me

its hard, not because it takes skilll...but the characters are so darn SLOW...

...you dont get to keep the first ones so levelling up seems pointless...

...the style is all jumpy...

...the music annoying (well done uematsu)...

..saving takes almost a MINUTE...

...its lifeless and predictable and THE FINAL BOSS IS RIDICULOUS ...

...and i deleted the save so i had to statrt again

although some bits are good so people....dont scimitar my cecil
oh yeah i probably hate it cus ff6 was so much better

THAT IS ALL.....for now

You need to die.

And you get the same advice as the previous person to respond to that post on this page --- read the original date it was posted.

And you get the same advice as the previous person to respond to that post on this page --- read the original date it was posted.

I did. It's not more so i'm trying to reply to him and expect him to see it, but more so my view on the fact that i like FF4 and his above accusations are complete crap.

Well, wonderful. So you think he needs to die. I'm sure in some far off dimension somewhere, he's getting the message.


How has this thread survived? It's long outlived its usefulness...

It could be the fact that people still take interest in the thread. And i could care less if he knew i wanted him to die or not. It's not like i'm serious, it's just that i think he's trying to find things wrong with an old game.

It's nothing to get worked up about.

I think it's mostly that Biscuit Friend hasn't posted in this thread for a very long time, so I am under the impression he doesn't read it anymore; therefore, you had no reason to reopen it with one four-word sentence.

Final boss track

http://www.ffshrine.org/ff4/midis/ff4-The_Final_Battle.mid

Makes the WHOle GAME PLATINUM

The original Boss Battle Music is the best boss battle music. Minus the second boss battle music in II, and the boss battles of 5 and 6.

I didn't find it to be that bad, I didn't really think of the music to be the worst either and I don't remeber the saving to take that long also. And deleting your memory by accident shouldn't really change your opinion of how good or bad the game is. It just really angers the player, thats why I always save on too seperate files every time I save.

Well, I wouldn't call it bad, and wouldn't say I hated it, but I would say it's not my favourite FF game.

I find the story too linear. That and the fact that characters leave and come into the party too often and you have no control over who is in your party. I wouldn't say the ending was unmemorable, but was a bit difficult to swallow.

Why is this thread still alive?

It won't die, it just keeps getting revived over and over again. I suppose I could close it, but I'm tempted to leave it open, just for sheer, amazing longevity.

Hmm, after reading over my old post in my thread I have to say that I still agree with it completely. However, don't consider the flaws I listed to be anywhere as near a big deal as I once did. It will be interesting to see how many of these things are fixed in the DS version.

i think that people who played it backwards from 7 to 6 5 4 they dont like it

but people from 1 2 3 4 they like it more because it was the shit then

I've played all the modern FFs besides VIII. Why? Because my asshole of a friend wouldn't let me borrow it claiming it was his baby so I got stuck with IX, but who's complaining.

Anywho, I bought Final Fantasy Chronicles because of Chrono Trigger but I'm interested in IV. I've read all the comments and people are split between liking it and not liking it. Could somebody please post a nice, clean pros and cons of the game so I know what I'm getting into?

If you don't like FF4, why bother being a fan of RPG's? It is THE RPG of the early 90's, and what a lot of companies ripped-off after it's release. It's the game that made the RPG Genre what it is.

FF4 is awesome dunno what you talking about mate, not a true fan lol

Can't really be a true fan of the series if you don't like this one. Sure there are things I dont like about the game, but to hate the entire thing means you belong on a boo boo kitty forum or some shit.

It was a great game, but I hate it for its absolutely HORRIBLE exp system. Then again, I played FFIV Advance. I liked the ending...But I hated Cecil and Rose. Paladins suck and Rosa was a terrible white mage.

I have to agree with the knock on the experience system, it takes far too long to level up if you ask me. Then again it takes forever to level up in the final dungeon on most FF games. Rosa was okay, you just have to teach her all her magic and Cecil is fine if you can get him the final weapon.

FF4 is a challenge, I've still havn't beaten it. I'm as far as the moon and there are loads of nasties in the caves.

I don't hate the game at all, but the graphics were probably the most inferior out of the rest.

ff4 is great i just cant beat zeromus :(

i prefer jerking off than playing final fantasy 4/8/12
HEY
i prefer jerking off than playing any FF
whoa i forgot
i dont play videogames anymore
but when i played ff4 it was boring and shitty
the music was nice though

i played it....it hated me

its hard, not because it takes skilll...but the characters are so darn SLOW...

...you dont get to keep the first ones so levelling up seems pointless...

...the style is all jumpy...

...the music annoying (well done uematsu)...

..saving takes almost a MINUTE...

...its lifeless and predictable and THE FINAL BOSS IS RIDICULOUS ...

...and i deleted the save so i had to statrt again

although some bits are good so people....dont scimitar my cecil
oh yeah i probably hate it cus ff6 was so much better

THAT IS ALL.....for now
Silence, you spoony bard.

I'm in the midst of playing it right now on the GBA version. Personally, I like it, alot. And of the ff's I kinda went in backwards order from 9. I definately like IV better than VII or VIII....VII to me is overrated and VIII only had good graphics for me. both of them werent final fantasy-like in my opinion...to futuristic. I actually like the fact that the characters come and go, that some of the characters die. Sure it may suck but I really didnt like playing those characters much, for as far as I got, which is the the tower of babel in the underworld. As for the music...I can't really say, I always have other music playing :) It's not the best ff, but it is a better one.

I won FFIV when a friend traded me for Lagoon, and ran off with it.

First time an encounter with a thief ever worked out in my favor. Sure the characters were two pixels high and moved so fast that you could, by spinning the d-pad in a perfect circle, keep perfect time, but in their tiny lives, there was a magic not seen before...

They made mistakes.

While other heroes were on the side of right and light by virtue of not kidnapping princesses, and slaying dragons, this game began with a good and noble man, murdering good and noble people.

Not just once, but again and again, sometimes by choice, sometimes not.

Until a girl, orphaned by his sword, cried out for help...

Now we can laugh. The silly dances. The censorship. The way we're reassured that almost nobody close to us stays dead forever.

But at the time, we expected that.

What lingered in the mind were those who weren't so lucky, in a world where good people do bad things with the best of intentions...

For those who never played it before, here's how the different versions stack up.

SNES - Pros: Best music. No slowdown or loading times. Least difficult version. Cons: No frills in the original American release. Some scenes are deleted, magic spells removed. Least difficult version.

PSone - Pros: Replaces missing scenes. Comes with Chrono Trigger. Plays when you hit start. Cons: Load times, music is emulated off key, sounding harsher, metallic. Cinema spoils scenes, and is far from Square's best work.

GBA - Pros: Improved graphics, new dungeon, new translation, and unlockable rewards. Cons: GBA not able to accurately recreate SNES sound. Music slightly scratchier, sometimes simplified. American version suffers from slowdown. (fixed for the European release)

And now we're at the end, so a word about the ending of FF4 - it's one of the best. Without spoilers, it only answers the question of "what happened next?", following each character after their time together ends. The secrets of endings is that endings are just the beginnings to another story. A final fantasy is a story that never ends.

All the others were never finished.

I just bought this for the gba, sounds fun lol

I don't know what the rules about topic revival are here, but if this is considered necromancy just tell me...

On topic, I have almost beat this game. I'm at Zeromus, but I keep getting schooled. I have to find it now cuz I lost the cartridge. Playing the GBA remake, after playing a SNES version a few years ago and finding out the battery was dead. I kept wondering why I couldn't save...anyways, the music is very nice albeit annoying at times. Characters are great for a 2D game, plot is just as good. Plenty of spells, good leveling. Overall a great game. I say FFIV is my fav FF game, although I've only played 4, and 10 part way.

The rules are generally "don't do it," however, it hasn't been all that long since this thread has been posted in. It is an incredibly old thread though that for some reason just keeps coming back and back again.

eh, It was ok. It dragged on alot but its kind've blasphemy among old school fan boys to speak its name in vain. Like an old school ff7. All I'll say is unless you're pretty high on nostalgia playing it, its not "ALL THAT". I've been right before Zeromus on my playstation edition for I don't know how many years and I think I'm about to touch down on the moon in my gba version. I can see why its such a step up from the nes ff's and why people wouldve gotten excited with it. On a lighter note the power of cheese is wonderful.

I don't remember if I've posted in this thread or not (and if I have it's been so long that it probably doesn't much matter), but FFIV is definitely worth a playthrough or two. I think it's better than, say, FFV, but not nearly so good as VI or IX. It's been a while since I've run through it--perhaps I'll give it a whirl in the not-too-distant future.