I could not help but notice that throughout Advent Children there is this Random Gray dog or wolf that appears here and there. IT IS SO WEIRD!
I cant remember it being in the game, i may be wrong. Could someone provide some information as to what the hell it is in the movie for?

this topic made me chuckle

But its true, there is a random dog that is in quite a few scenes, associated with Cloud mostly.

Cloud wears a "Cloudy Wolf" on his shoulder gaurd thing http://shopcdsbooks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=0099258544&Category_Code=ffviiac&Store_Code=SQX
it looks like that, thats most likely why theres a wolf when by the Buster Sword that Cloud stuck in the ground and any other scenes the wolf is in

yeh i know at the beginning with the sword and all
kind of a lone wolf association

but when i read

Random Dog in Advent Children *possible Spoilers*
i totally imagined this silly ass pug glitchin on the screen like tyler did with pornimages

HAHAHAHAHAHA now i get ya

uh, the wolf represents Zach...

You'd know that if you actually played the game 100%

Uh, no, the wolf doesn't represent Zack, cause
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You see him in the end of the movie.
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uh, the wolf represents Zach...

You'd know that if you actually played the game 100%

What do you mean by 100%? Do you mean, finish the game? I did, quite a few times. And i do not ever remember there being any talk about a gray wolf. Please explain.
Then again its been years since i played the game. So refresh my memory please.

The Hof has no fucking clue what he's talking about...

What do you mean by 100%? Do you mean, finish the game? I did, quite a few times. And i do not ever remember there being any talk about a gray wolf. Please explain.
Then again its been years since i played the game. So refresh my memory please.
before zach died, he said that in his next life he wished to be a wolf, and guess what? HE DIED AND IS NOW A WOLF!

he really said that in the game?

he really said that in the game?
yes, i remember him saying to cloud that he wished to be a wolf in the next life.

it's not ZACK !!!

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The wolf is Cloud's guilt...when Cloud is finally forgiven the wolf disapears like the guilt that left him....

if the wolf is not zach, then why is he even in the movie at the end? doesn't it seem a little odd that he would ONLY appear at the end?

Cloud wears a "Cloudy Wolf" on his shoulder gaurd thing http://shopcdsbooks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=0099258544&Category_Code=ffviiac&Store_Code=SQX
it looks like that, thats most likely why theres a wolf when by the Buster Sword that Cloud stuck in the ground and any other scenes the wolf is in

Cloud strife101, the "cloudy wolf" that you refer to is most likely worn by cloud in honor of zack, just as the ribbon or string worn on his arm is in honor of aerith.

Zack is in the Lifestream, so why would he appear as a wolf, that's fucking retarded. It is Cloud's guilt...

I agree with chorns, I think its Cloud's guilt because the wolf vanishes in the end. I will watch the movie again and investigate...
But yeh i think the wolf is a metaphor for clouds guilt. That is the most logical explanation.

if the wolf is not zach, then why is he even in the movie at the end? doesn't it seem a little odd that he would ONLY appear at the end?
It's to show that he became part of Lifestream with Aeris... and plus, you hear him talking to Aeris earlier in the movie. In Lifestream

I agree with chorns, I think its Cloud's guilt because the wolf vanishes in the end. I will watch the movie again and investigate...
But yeh i think the wolf is a metaphor for clouds guilt. That is the most logical explanation.


that's what I've been trying to say in the beginning !!!!!!!!!!!

it is his guilt for gods sake.. someone close this! this topic was a question about the wolf. and it has been answered!

its simple... it is shown everytime he feels like it is his fault that something happened to someone else. somewhere in the movie, he sees the wolf. then the screen turn white and then he appears on some grass field, saying to aerith that he wants to be forgiven!

to hell with the spoilers! if you didn't wished to have the movie spoiled, you simply shouldn't have come to this tread! face it >_<

mmmmmmmMMMM0000000000000000000000ooooooofinz! >_<

Cloud strife101, the "cloudy wolf" that you refer to is most likely worn by cloud in honor of zack, just as the ribbon or string worn on his arm is in honor of aerith.

no like everyone else said its his guilt isnt it a little weird how his guilt is represented by a wolf and he also wears a "Cloud Wolf" emblem thing on his shoulder gaurd...coincidence....i think not

The wolf is a central theme of the movie, I think it's just that Nomura-san decided to make the wolf represent his guilt cause it would make sense to the viewer.

hof is right, the grey wolf symbolizes zach.................

*btw i have that ring ^_^

It may represent both. Why does he feel guilt? Cause of everyone that died. Aeris...Zack...everyone. Zack was his best friend, and the first one he lost after the "Nibellium Incident"

That sound like a good comprimise?

the point is the dog(wolf) isnt just random

Well now that its presence has been explained to me its not random, but when i started this thread it was because i didnt know why the fuck it was there, so YEH to me it was random

hmmm......i thought it represented like, a "lone wolf" thing. cause tifa says something like "why won't you join us? it can be like old times." but, since everyone says it's his guilt, then i guess i must agree.

gah!! of course the wolf represents Zack! he fells guilty that ZACK died, so thats why! the wolf represents Zack AND his guilt... it fits together!

get it into your think heads damit >_<

look. it appeared mainly because he felt guilty that Zack died (and Aerith probably.. but i dont like her, so shrew the weak bitch >.<) the wolf appears everytime Cloud fells that it was his fault something happened...

a resume *possible spoilers* (but to hell with them, as said before >_<)

he front side of the COVER on the disk shows the wolf! >.< (this also represents guilt, because he whole movie (almost) Cloud fells guilty about something.

when you first see Clouds old sword, the wolf is standing next to it. later you see that he placed it there, because he felt it was his fault that Aerith and Zack died, and the town ended like it is. (alot of guilt here >_>)

later, after the next best (and coolest =D) fighting sequence in the whole movie, Cloud comes in and finds Tifa knocked out. the geostigma flows out of his hand (geez disgusting >.<) and he falls to the ground with Tifa. you see the wolf appear, here because he fell it is his fault that Tifa ended like that, and that the "orphans" are gone. (the kids he was living with) again this is his guilt it shows.

later when you see his phone you see the wolf standing on the around the surface where he lost his phone. this time, it is ALSO his guilt. you hear almost all his friends has called him, and he fells like it is his fault that everyone was seperated.


(this is off-topic. but do ANYONE know why Vincent asks where the phone shop is? O_o)

this is the last time you see the dog, (the movie also ends pretty much right after that.) but after Cloud is shot, it stands over him, and then it disappears. and so does his guilt :)

(this is off-topic. but do ANYONE know why Vincent asks where the phone shop is? O_o)
Cause Cloud just lost his phone in the pool after Vincent talked to him about always having it on him?

ya gotta agree with darkredeemer, i mean

1. Cloud does have some serious issues with his past.

2. It kinda is his fault that some people died, i mean, would zack have gone and followed sephiroth and gotten himself killed if cloud wasnt there??

O_o wait...wasnt cloud kinda knocked out at first??? and then he follows zak????
the whole fuckin game is confusing...

ya gotta agree with darkredeemer, i mean

1. Cloud does have some serious issues with his past.

2. It kinda is his fault that some people died, i mean, would zack have gone and followed sephiroth and gotten himself killed if cloud wasnt there??

O_o wait...wasnt cloud kinda knocked out at first??? and then he follows zak????
the whole fuckin game is confusing...

Zack didn't die at the Nibelhiem reactor he died on their way back to Midgar when they were ambushed by SOLDIERs Zack was only injured at the Nibelhiem reactor

hey darkredeemer, do you know how to spell feel?

I always thought Zack looked like a wolf...thats why the wolf was there. IMO.

to anyname: my english aren't perfect... though im pretty good at it, considering english is never used in the country i am from ;P

to animation: i guess there is some connection between Zack and the wolf.. it would make sense.. i dont know if they just took the wolf, because they had to use somthing, or not.

if we want the REAL answers to all this, im pretty sure we need to ask whoever got the idea to put it in <_<

oh and you might be right with the phone thing.. but um... how did vincent know that he had dropped his phone? when he arrives, the phone is allready in the water. maybe cloud found out that his phone was gone, and told vincent? another question to answer <_<

MAYBE its al Bush's fault and we should all commit mutual suicide by cutting of our heads with a pianosnare

oh and you might be right with the phone thing.. but um... how did vincent know that he had dropped his phone? when he arrives, the phone is allready in the water. maybe cloud found out that his phone was gone, and told vincent? another question to answer <_<

I thought it was a joke because marlene asked vincent if he had a phone. Clouds was in the pool and couldn't call Tifa to get Marlene. So vincent asked where's the phone shop(whatever) so he could get a phone.

Anyways- *cont the conversation*

are you talking about when vincent asks Tifa before taking on bahamut with the others, or in the forest?

Yessir, and the pink ribbon...breast cancer association.

ur making no sense whatsoever, but breast cancer association all the way....

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MAYBE its al Bush's fault and we should all commit mutual suicide by cutting of our heads with a pianosnare

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
thats funny.
Yeh that phone sales man thing made me go "aye!?" I figured the fansubbers were messed up or something.

has dark redeemer seen AC a little too much? or have we not seen it enough?

no its that u have bad short term memory -_-

yes, it is the part where he asks tifa before the fight with bahamut. i have no idea why he asks for the phone shop.

oh, and sorry darkreedemr. you speak english pretty well.

lol k thanks >.>

he..

has dark redeemer seen AC a little too much? or have we not seen it enough?

... he... maybe i have seen it ALITTLE too much... but that kinda depends on when you seen at too much -.- ive seen it 9 times now.. figure out the rest yourself >.>

9 Times!?
Wow!! hahaha
Awesome...

lol k thanks >.>

he..


... he... maybe i have seen it ALITTLE too much... but that kinda depends on when you seen at too much -.- ive seen it 9 times now.. figure out the rest yourself >.>

I'm not suprised you've seen it 9 times! cause it was a great movie!:-D

lol... and thats why ive seen it that many times ;P

i also noticed something else in the movie.... (again about vincent.. wtf is wrong with him O.o)

after vincent saved Cloud and they talked a bit in the forest... Marlene comes and then she says to Vincent "Do you have it?" Vincent shows it to her (i think) but i cant really figure out what it is O.o and she says "i cant believe it!"

what is it? am i just stupid, or are you just as lost as me? O.o

EDIT: i think it COULD be the phone.. and "she cant believe they lost it" or something... -.- kay im lost >.<

We must embrace the fact that the fan subs could be messed up. And something could have gone wrong in the translation.
Best wait for the US version to come out, that way we can solve all these aparent translation errors.

lol... and thats why ive seen it that many times ;P

i also noticed something else in the movie.... (again about vincent.. wtf is wrong with him O.o)

after vincent saved Cloud and they talked a bit in the forest... Marlene comes and then she says to Vincent "Do you have it?" Vincent shows it to her (i think) but i cant really figure out what it is O.o and she says "i cant believe it!"

what is it? am i just stupid, or are you just as lost as me? O.o

EDIT: i think it COULD be the phone.. and "she cant believe they lost it" or something... -.- kay im lost >.<

You're right about the phone thing in your EDIT.
After Vincent comes to Clouds rescue, and Marlene come out of the bushes,
Marlene asks Cloud if she can talk to Tifa,
Cloud reaches into his pocket for his phone but he lost it in the lake/pond/water thing,
then she asks Vinny Vincent "do you have it?"
Vincent then shows her that he has doesn't have Clouds phone or any phone, then Marlene gets angry at them and yells "I can't belive it!">:O


sorry nkwp for sliding off the subject! i gotz no ideas on what that grey dog is being

You're right about the phone thing in your EDIT.
After Vincent comes to Clouds rescue, and Marlene come out of the bushes,
Marlene asks Cloud if she can talk to Tifa,
Cloud reaches into his pocket for his phone but he lost it in the lake/pond/water thing,
then she asks Vinny Vincent "do you have it?"
Vincent then shows her that he has doesn't have Clouds phone or any phone, then Marlene gets angry at them and yells "I can't belive it!">:O

Lol, I have only seen the movie once so I guess I would not know. The reason why I watched it once was because the dialogue was....not impressive and not terribly clever as well. Typical anime drag on dialogue. LOL! My opinion anyway.




sorry nkwp for sliding off the subject! i gotz no ideas on what that grey dog is being

Its all good ma bro, we all seem to have slid of topic every since page two.

Its all good ma bro, we all seem to have slid of topic every since page two.

!!!!!!!!SWEEEET!!!!!!