My brother and I feel as though the merger between square and enix
is destroying Squaresofts creativity and the games are seeming to be of lesser quality.
Both company's are excelent respectivly, however i feel as though enix is breaking up squaresoft.

what do you think???

I agree, before Unlimited Saga, Square were making brilliant game, FF and others, then along came the Enix merger, and the games slowly went downhill, like FFX-2, not bad, but not brilliant either. Then again, if FFXII is as good as it looks, I think I may well change my mind

Yeah, FF X- 2 wasn't very good, if you play X and then X-2 you'l see the quality differences, i've seen the E3 trailer of XII, and personally i can't wait for more!!!

Do you have a link to the trailer we could have?

In FFshrine homepage there's a link right in the top of the news it's the first news topic

http://www.ffshrine.org/FullStory.php?nid=75

I agree unlimited Saga was so dissapointing and X-2
however i still have faith ....

Square is cracking down on the trailers and who can distribute (more like stream) them, use a bittorrent client as their fast and efficiant and there is tons of ff trailers and FMV's.
google search Exeem which is the client and ISO hunt is an excelent site for bittorrent multimedia.

hope this helps guys

ps: any other thoughts on the merger????

I will say this...

Sqaure and Enix merger has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF THEIR GAMES.

The reason is... the developers aren't exactly merged up. People from Enix aren't doing Final Fantasy games and likewise, people from Square aren't doing Grandia or Star Ocean games.

So, the real downfall can really be contributed towards the absense of various big name people such as Amano, Sakaguchi, and Nobuo (which formed their own development studio called Mistwalker). In fact, FFX's core group really did not do work on FFX-2, which is why the style of the game is very different (though I won't say the game was bad... I actually enjoyed it).

Enix is a great company and I think that Enix does a GREAT job with their RPGs, especially the Dragon Quest series (8 is coming out btw) and the Star Ocean games. I think it is very unfortunate that most people associate Square's lack of quality games because of the merger and blames things on Enix. Though I do think that Enix does have a great share of good games, I feel that most people are just too attached to Square and that any slight change will upset them. In reality, when you hear things like company mergers, it is all on an economical stand point, rather than directly affecting the developers that create the games, the ones that aren't merged at all.

Both companies have good games! Yeah from Enixs' Dragon Quest and Star Ocean games, from Square's FF series, but we would have never played Chrono Trigger without the two of them.

no it was brilliant then and its brilliant now

i dont mind the whole square-enix thing as long as they dont make TOO many changes to ff

i think that Square enix is spreading too many of their resourses around
i still say i prefer classic square games, Starocean was excelent by far for enix
i do prefer that to any of the dragon series

Sqaure and Enix merger has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF THEIR GAMES.

Quoted for truth. For every Final Fantasy X-2, there is a Star Ocean: 'Til the End of Time.

LOL absolutely! The whole Star-ocean series was brilliant, come to think of it i cant rule Star-ocean II under FFVII for a fact *smiles deviously at fanboys screams*

I cant deny that there is something different about the games, i loved the atmosphere and storylines of previous installments in the series.(although XII looks like it has potential)

I stand by SQUARE (the original division) not Squaresoft, Square-Enix or Enix really.
The father final fantasy is my inspiration - Hironobu Sakaguchi (Executive producer) I will be tuned in to see how Mist-Walker develops.

Enix never had many RPG's localized here in Australia except Starocean (i think)
and i found square with secret of mana long ago so they are my Affinity

i think since both companies were very similar, they decided to merge.
while its true that their games today are either hit or miss, most of them still have excellent storylines backed by excellent production quality.

Yes I think the merge has affected the quality of games.I mean, look at all the junk thats come out lately.FFX-2 was a major dissapointment too, regarding the story line,very poor indeed.The gameplay is fine but the story is very poor imo.

And not once in your post did you mention how the merger affected the games. :(

'Yes I think the merge has affected the quality of games'

Read the post.If you had any common sense, you would know that Square-Enix made FFX-2 and my point was that it didnt have the standard of previous FF games.Other factors may have influenced this, but the most likely conclusion is that the merger affected the quality of the games.Changes in staff maybe, who knows.

Yeah, FF X- 2 wasn't very good, if you play X and then X-2 you'l see the quality differences, i've seen the E3 trailer of XII, and personally i can't wait for more!!!


i agree with the ff x-2 part. i hated it so much i didn't even finish it

I did'nt hate it.But I was certainly very dissapointed.I suppose FF games are of such a high standard we expect an almost perfect game every time.

'Yes I think the merge has affected the quality of games'

Read the post.If you had any common sense, you would know that Square-Enix made FFX-2 and my point was that it didnt have the standard of previous FF games.Other factors may have influenced this, but the most likely conclusion is that the merger affected the quality of the games.Changes in staff maybe, who knows.

Their would be minor staff turnover but both company's remain respective.
operating as a joint buisiness though, their RESOURCES are speard out too much to be effective... when was the last breathtaking game S-E released???
they seem to be creating cash cow games and projects! where are new exciting things heading our way?

Their would be minor staff turnover but both company's remain respective.
operating as a joint buisiness though, their RESOURCES are speard out too much to be effective... when was the last breathtaking game S-E released???
they seem to be creating cash cow games and projects! where are new exciting things heading our way?


Spot on.