Just saw this last week and loved the music for it. Was really excited for the score which I had previously seen was releasing end of March, however I cant find it anywhere!

Does anyone know what has happened to this and when/if it is being released?

Thanks

I had read that this release was cancelled?

It's not being released.

The fallout when a film underperforms.

Exactly....

The fallout when a film underperforms.

More likely they didn't have time to assemble a new album when pieces of Mansell's work were replaced with Balfe, and Paramount would rather have had no OST release than one without Balfe's contributions. Maybe we'll get lucky during awards season; who knows?

This film has the stink of failure and it feels like Paramount is running from it. The company is going to take a $60 million bath, at least, on this film and it seems Paramount wants nothing to do with it, including the music. And honestly in the age of digital how difficult would it be to assemble a digital only release? I don't think GiTS will be up for any awards. Our best chance is if some boutique record label licenses the soundtrack.

They (presumably) already paid Lakeshore to assemble one album; no reason they'd pay them to assemble another for digital release only. The problem isn't the cost of manufacturing, it's something else.
As for awards, I would imagine they'd try assembling a FYC campaign for the film at least for visual effects. Maybe they'll make the score available "for consideration" as well. We'll see in Fall.

We'll definitely see. Maybe by the Fall any "taint" will have dissipated. At lot depends on how well the film does in Asia. China saved Pacific Rim and also the film might have a second life on disc. The first John Wick did well in the theaters but killed it on blu-ray. However, if the film underperforms in Asia, Paramount might just decide to forget it ever made the movie.

If there's a lesson here it's the folly in trying to adapt anime to live action. Anime is a niche genre and there's a limited audience for it. In other words, don't try going live action on Akira.

Lorne is now tweeting everyone that the score release won't be happening.
https://twitter.com/Lornebalfe/status/852169116676800512

The film took in about $42 million in Asia and that puts GiTS at $125 million worldwide. Considering insider's estimate the film's budget was anywhere between $110 - $160 million and then there's the millions spent on advertising this film would need to make at least $400 million to be considered a modest success. And it did meh in Japan, about $3 million.

I think Paramount is going to dump this one, write it off and try to forget it ever happened. The bad news is GiTS' poor performance dooms future anime adaptations into live action.

And nobody wants to see a film with ScarJo dressed up like a boy.

And nobody wants to see a film with ScarJo dressed up like a boy.

Lorne is now tweeting everyone that the score release won't be happening.
https://twitter.com/Lornebalfe/status/852169116676800512

This is just odd. Far lesser films have gotten score releases.

I had no idea about Mr. Balfe's contributions to the score. What happened there? Every report I read regarding it just spoke about Clint Mansell.

And nobody wants to see a film with ScarJo dressed up like a boy.

If you think Ms. Johansen clad in a form fitting latex bodysuit looks like a boy, I think you need a refresher in Bio 101.

The problem, IMO, is anime is still largely a niche genre. Most audience, and by that I mean almost every last one, members have no idea about Ghost in the Shell. When it comes to SF audiences tend to be very conservative unless there's a Star Wars in the title. (I would have added Star Trek, but the last two movies have been meh at the box office.)

Also there was no "hook" in the trailers to reel the audience in: lots of pretty and intriguing images but nothing that said "you gotta see this film."

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This is just odd. Far lesser films have gotten score releases.

I had no idea about Mr. Balfe's contributions to the score. What happened there? Every report I read regarding it just spoke about Clint Mansell.


As I noted previously, this film has the stink of failure, expensive failure. Paramount is distancing themselves from it.

This is just odd. Far lesser films have gotten score releases.

I had no idea about Mr. Balfe's contributions to the score. What happened there? Every report I read regarding it just spoke about Clint Mansell.

Reshoots and less-than-favorable test audience reactions likely led to a decision by executives that some, not all, of Mansell's music just did not work for the film. Balfe was brought on at the 11th hour to rescore several sequences.

Oh, I get it... you don't see her tits in that shot!

Yes. No tits - she looks like a bloke.

It's called body armor. Ever worn it?

you people are so assholes..........
i have to say it... you are assholes... complaining of a movie... that is not bad. you just wanted SO BAD to be BAD.
oh right... saw 4 times in cinema.... teh more I see, the more it shows its better then the 95 animated.... and fucking love that movie. but now with comparison.... live action is better.
everyone wants it to fail it seems. I want a second movie.

I log out from this insane shitty world of demised humanity, and will go back to a proper world.


score released awaited......

There won't be an official release because of the poor perform.
Now, it's not clear, until an official release surface in the future, if Balfe wrote additional music or additional arrangements to the film or wrote music to replace Mansell's cues or wrote music to replace Mansell's cues in the reshoots.
This seems to be a similar case for what happened in Constantine with Brian Tyler and Klaus Badelt.

Why are people saying that the film's poor performance is a factor? Are you insinuating that Paramount's box office predictions for the film were really so bad that they wanted to avert a soundtrack release? Lakeshore was slated to release the soundtrack on the same day as the film (March 31). I mean, I guess it's possible, but it seems so staggeringly unlikely to be that this is a problem with under-performance at the BO.

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I'll say again: I think what's going on is that Paramount doesn't want a score album for the film - which Lakeshore has already assembled and, hell, maybe already pressed - which contains large amounts of rejected music. They do not want to pay Lakeshore to assemble a new program and do the same job twice.

The movie is really not that bad. Run of the mill, action popcorn, Bourn-esque script.


...it's just the same problem the Ghostbusters... thing... had: it can't stop reminding you there's another, WAY superior movie with the same name.

Trying to figure out the exact reason or reasons Hollywood does or doesn't do certain things is liking trying to grab a handful of smoke. Paramount right now isn't going to authorize a release. Perhaps if the film sells well when it goes blu-ray the studio might change its mind or like with the film Sunshine we'll get a digital only version.

If you all are really that gutted about the score not being released, why not send an email to Paramount about it? Tell them that you were disappointed when the soundtrack album was cancelled, and suggest that they include an isolated score/music-only audio track on the Blu-ray. Don't bore or confuse the customer service person with details about Balfe and Mansell - just make it clear that you would be more encouraged to purchase the movie if an isolated score were in the special features, because your money is what companies are interested in most - doubly so in this case, where the film is not performing well at the box office. You can call it wishful thinking, and it is, but what's there to lose by just writing up a brief appeal? Have you got friends who want the score? Tell them to write to Paramount as well. Maybe if enough of a clamor is made (we're talking hundreds, thousands of people) the higher-ups at the Paramount home video department will consider it. It's happened before.

I am a big fan of the original GITS, GITS - Innocence, Stand alone complex and Solid state society, i did not saw Rise though, that said i dont get the hatred about this movie, for one, it was clear from the beginning that it is not going to try compete with the anime, secondly instead of copy and pasted of what we had in original about these hard phylosophical questions, they tryed to cover the one thing i did kind of missed in the original, which was Kusanagi past, i see this like that this movie wasnt want to mess with ideas which was perfect in the original and instead give us something more from what was just briefly mentioned in the original, i see this more like respect then "dumb down" like many people like to say, they even resolved even the whitewashing problem in very smart way...
Another thing that just gets me is "she looks like a boy", man really? For one i had no idea that they cast Scarlett but after i give that a more thought one movie rised in my mind - Under the skin, Scarlett is amazing there and thats how i was excited about her doing this, many people just see her based on Lucy and Avengers, but dig deeper, that said, this movie done one thing that many doesnt like to do, they took very pretty woman and they didnt make her a sexbomb in this, she is a part machine, she doesnt have too look amazing, she moves like one even when she just walk, she express like one in facial acting, she is cyborg not a model, so yes the femine factor is missing for a very good reason here and thats a great thing about this....
What i thought that is kind of shame was just a few things, yes i would like to see original villain of the original, it changed a context of the story too much, not for a worse, Pitt did good job with Hideo, but still... And second thing is that GITS was always about whole section 9, here they doesnt have much space as Major and thats a shame, but it didnt ruined a movie for me...
Now about the score, does anybody remembers that Clint Mansell would ever did a bad score? Hardly, i rewatched yesterday Stoker what he composed, its brilliant, for godsake he had a job when he was mixing such a classic like a Swan lake in Black swan and he delivered one of the best reamagining of classical composition ever, so what i think about Balfe being added on a last minute is that Paramount expected more Hollywood style of music, i think that even director wasnt exactly on board with that either, if he would be they wouldnt choose a Clint at all, Balfe is modern composer, as a basically apprentice of Zimmer they both does what is expected, which doesnt equel of being good, i didnt enjoyed Zimmer since The pledge, Ring and Broken arrow where he was original, now he is rehashing his performence from Pirates over and over ( Batman is kind of good but still has the same system and symptoms of his new works ), Balfe is not different, his Terminator was generic as hell, but thats the thing, thats what most companys wants today, if its a big movie they rather play safe then experimenting, i think that Clint as always delivered but Paramount didnt want to take a risk... But i dont see that also like a good reason not release the music at all, also that the movie doesnt do well now isnt the issue, there is so much bad movies that didnt delivered yet we have scores, this is by far not a bad movie, not even "generic" as many also says, people just wanted exact copy of original so they didnt try to give it more thought, i enjoyd it very much and i will buy it on BD in a first day, i see it as a part of the series, not as a competition, so there you have it....

suggest that they include an isolated score/music-only audio track on the Blu-ray.

Does it exists? Have they ever put a music-only audio track on the Blu-ray before?
The only time I've heard about it was rumors for Mad Max: Fury Road and I'm not even sure if that eventually happened or not.

Plenty of Blu-ray and DVD disks have isolated scores.

There's a petition already going: https://www.change.org/p/paramount-release-the-ghost-in-the-shell-2017-soundtrack-gitsost

Does it exists? Have they ever put a music-only audio track on the Blu-ray before?
The only time I've heard about it was rumors for Mad Max: Fury Road and I'm not even sure if that eventually happened or not.

Isolated score did not happen.

Maybe as FYC.. maybe if there will be any kind of possibility of nomination?

Does it exists? Have they ever put a music-only audio track on the Blu-ray before?
The only time I've heard about it was rumors for Mad Max: Fury Road and I'm not even sure if that eventually happened or not.

It's been quite a while since I've watched, but on the DVD of Blade 2 there's an option to watch the film with just the music and no dialogue/sound FX... which I guess is isolated score (I admit, I'm not familiar with this as a practice either). And that was 2002/2003.

I talked personally with Lorne Balfe and he said that him and his management are working on releasing the score, but no drop date has been issued

I talked personally with Lorne Balfe and he said that him and his management are working on releasing the score, but no drop date has been issued

Did you ask him the reason for the score's delay?

I talked personally with Lorne Balfe and he said that him and his management are working on releasing the score, but no drop date has been issued

so, youre saying theres a chance? sweet

what's gonna be interesting is in what form will the release be, because I assume Lakeshore originally mastered the album with just Mansell's score. I guess that's what played at the London pop-up exhibit the weekend before release (I asked the staff there if it'll be out and they said 'when the film is out') and was used in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaJ306bAeQ

Will they just do a film-accurate version by replacing Mansell's cues with Balfe's where needed? Or will they drop both composers' versions of cues?

I'm guessing it'll be like the Avengers: Age of Ultron score and include material from both composers, prioritising tracks that are actually heard in the movie. IE, Rejected Mansell cues will be replaced with Balfe cues that are actually used in the film.

There's a petition already going: https://www.change.org/p/paramount-release-the-ghost-in-the-shell-2017-soundtrack-gitsost

Sign in done!

what's gonna be interesting is in what form will the release be, because I assume Lakeshore originally mastered the album with just Mansell's score. I guess that's what played at the London pop-up exhibit the weekend before release (I asked the staff there if it'll be out and they said 'when the film is out') and was used in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaJ306bAeQ

Will they just do a film-accurate version by replacing Mansell's cues with Balfe's where needed? Or will they drop both composers' versions of cues?

So, they had the mastered score CD there?
Why haven't you asked them if you could borrow the CD for 1h :-)

lets hope the petition does go somewhere.

So, they had the mastered score CD there?
Why haven't you asked them if you could borrow the CD for 1h :-)
They evidently did and I was this close to hahaha (although I don't think it was the CD they and but just digital files for it)

It is possible that they can get
something out of DVD sales. Have
not seen it. Shame about the score.
We will have to wait and see.

Love Clint's stuff.

This really sucks! Don't understand why a poor performance is going to so dramatically affect an OST release! Especially as I assume they must have already started work on producing it since it had an official release date, surely they must have lost more by not releasing it?

Like someone said previously, far lesser films have had score releases, I'm pretty sure there are others that have had less than stellar box office numbers but the music still came out as scheduled, what makes this one so bad as to completely cancel the score?

So if nothing becomes of the petition then it looks like we will be waiting a year until the Blu Ray release, and someone manages to isolate and work on a full complete score without SFX, which will be no small feat I'd imagine.

And on that note; what's with all the hate for Lorne Balfe? I've read here and else where about people criticizing his involvement, I personally don't know of much of his work only Terminator: Genisys and I LOVED that score (and movie), and I'm not so up on all the composer news??

Said it before, I'll say it again. It's fear. Paramount is running scared from a film it thought was going to be a success and instead it's a dud. Worldwide GiTS has made $150 million but the film cost, with marketing included, probably close to $250 million to $300 million.

The thing about fear: no one makes good decisions based on it. They should release the score but right now, I'm guessing, everyone associated with it just wants it to go away.

And on that note; what's with all the hate for Lorne Balfe? I've read here and else where about people criticizing his involvement, I personally don't know of much of his work only Terminator: Genisys and I LOVED that score (and movie), and I'm not so up on all the composer news??

The 'issue' with Balfe is that he was brought on at the very last minute (we're talking two weeks before release - and, in regards to the OST albums, after the Mansell-only album has been mastered for release) to re-do parts of the score, including the opening. (I've only heard the first 15 mins of the original Mansell score in the special IMAX preview, and the score there was IMHO superior although, in the case of the shelling sequence, further removed from Kawai's original)

I'd imagine this is why the release got cancelled and Lakeshore dropped it - partly because they prob weren't up for remastering the album, working out what to do with Mansell's stuff that wasn't used in the film, and also what's sure to be a bunch of complex legal matters in regards to Balfe's last min involvement. Now with the petition the hope is that either Lakeshore or some other label pick up the unfinished work and get this score out there.

The best way to get Paramount & Lakeshore to release an album: buy the blu-ray when it's released.

I'm genuinely staggered that they wouldn't release the score! I loved it!

is there any news about this?

No, unfortunately there almost certainly will never be a release.

well..... everyone keeps talking about waiting fro teh bluray release, I assume to rip the music from it.
those recording sessions that many get and share here...... no hope on that?

There might be a recording sessions leak someday, but it's not something you can predict.

I agree...
But I find very strange that Balfe didn't even post a few cues in his website, as he usually does.

Kevin Kiner who provided some additional music for the film has two tracks on his website: The Leap (http://www.kevinkiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/The-Leap.mp3) & Don't Send A Rabbit To Kill A Fox (http://www.kevinkiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Dont-Send-A-Rabbit-To-Kill-A-Fox.mp3).

Thanks! Do you know if Kiner was assisting Balfe, or Mansell?

Thanks! Do you know if Kiner was assisting Balfe, or Mansell?

No idea, just saw that he had those on his website when checking to see if he'd added any more Star Wars Rebels music and remembered that people made a fuss about there being nothing of the score available so decided to post the links.

Edit: this site (https://medium.com/@gitsost/ghost-in-the-shell-2017-score-credits-7e5d9a5af324) shows that it was Clint Mansell.

The fatal error was that the film deviated in its theme - what is identity? - from the anime and turned it into your standard Hollywood thriller. And those accusations of whitewashing were accurate: the original Motoko was Japanese and version 2.0 is a Caucasian woman? Hollywood really is culturally stupid.

Kevin Kiner who provided some additional music for the film has two tracks on his website: The Leap (http://www.kevinkiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/The-Leap.mp3) & Don't Send A Rabbit To Kill A Fox (http://www.kevinkiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Dont-Send-A-Rabbit-To-Kill-A-Fox.mp3).

Nice . very nice!

:D

I just loved when Aramaki said that !

The fatal error was that the film deviated in its theme - what is identity? - from the anime and turned it into your standard Hollywood thriller. And those accusations of whitewashing were accurate: the original Motoko was Japanese and version 2.0 is a Caucasian woman? Hollywood really is culturally stupid.

People that keep perpetuating this BS are the reason this movie did so poorly. Did you even watch the movie? Motoko is in the film, and she is Japanese, and she becomes Mira. I'm a huge fan of the original anime, and I thought the film was fantastic.

End of story for me. Back to the real topic here: Thanks CGCJ for the Kiner links. Still just beyond stupid what's going on with this score.

People that keep perpetuating this BS are the reason this movie did so poorly. Did you even watch the movie?

yes. my dear. I 10000% agree with you.
Specially..... when no one seems to know that motoko kusanagi is an alias.... stated in the original manga... and it even says "obviously".
I loved the movie, and as a hardcore fan of Masamune, it was very pleased, very damn pleased, enough to see it 5 times in theaters.

So much rage for this movie.... and like you I ask everyone complaining:
"you sure you saw the same movie as I? You sure you really know what you are talking about?
Because for me its NO to both clearly"


I thought "The Leap" was going to be the song of my favorite scene in the movie. The Geisha Dive! I loved that moment so much.

Kevin Kiner who provided some additional music for the film has two tracks on his website: The Leap (http://www.kevinkiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/The-Leap.mp3) & Don't Send A Rabbit To Kill A Fox (http://www.kevinkiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Dont-Send-A-Rabbit-To-Kill-A-Fox.mp3).

Wow! Thanks for the heads up! These are great! Now if only Lorne would post some clips on his own website too...

Thanks! Do you know if Kiner was assisting Balfe, or Mansell?

the end credits for the film say Mansell.

Def sounds like the original version of the score I heard in the IMAX preview, pre-Balfe.

I was thinking that maybe at some point Balfe or Mansell (or both) might eventually post some tracks on their own sites or Soundcloud or something... Nice find, CGCJ!

EDIT: Just listened to the two tracks. Definitely sound different from what I remember in the film. The Leap, I presume, would be the score of the opening action scene where The Major does the building drop. The track sounds almost identical to the score from the film's end credits which antovolk ripped from the Korean VOD release, which I assumed was a sample 'suite' of different pieces of music because it didn't all sync with one particular scene. However, it seems here that the more dramatic pounding music (3:22 The Leap) was supposed to play when she crashes through the window and takes out the villains before shooting the Geisha-bot; very different to the eerie, atmospheric choir vocals in the finished film. Otherwise, playing it through in my head, the track syncs with the scene - I can here the cues where the Geisha-bot crawls over to her before delivering Kuze's cryptic message and getting shot in the head.

I have to say, I think Balfe's work on the score improved it, based on what we've heard thus far. I'd love to here Mansell's original piece for the Shelling Sequence, though, just out of curiosity.

I felt the same as you. I kinda then thought that "The Leap" was mix of all cues of Kevin. Because I was going through the movie, and although I recognize all cues, they were not fitting all together in one scene.
"Shelling".... I love it ...... <3

The fatal error was that the film deviated in its theme - what is identity? - from the anime and turned it into your standard Hollywood thriller. And those accusations of whitewashing were accurate: the original Motoko was Japanese and version 2.0 is a Caucasian woman? Hollywood really is culturally stupid.

Nope thats wrong, for one even Mamoru Oshii ( director of 95 original ) said that she is jumping from body to body, she could be japan originaly but that was not a message of that movie, exactly opposite, Kusanagi even says in the Stand alone complex that she jumps as she needs to, when Batou asks her why she doesnt use a male body, she reply that she chooses this for flexibility as the woman are known for, after some time Batou even figure that she wants her hands to be small enough to wear specific watches, why? Watch it... Both movies and series never ever stated clearly what exact origin is she, they even dont care for what race she is captured, Oshii said that he actually did her more european mixed with asian look, so no, its not whitewashing, in the end the USA version actually break this of by telling us that she was originaly japanese girl, so i dont see any problem here...
Now second thing, if you ever saw Under the skin, you would know why they picked Scarlett, yes she is famous right now too, but look at other movies she was in, there is more then a just a talent in here, this hatred towards casting is just pointless if you ask me, because when even japanese people are ok with it then its really weird when rest of the world goes mad about it....

Any kind of news about this soundtrack? I mean it looks that BD is out, i dont know if it features the stand alone music track or not, i do not care if they will release it or if it can be rip from BD, i just want something and dont know much about it right now....

you and me both. I am waiting for my dvd to arrive. I do not own bluray, so on that side I can't help... and even if I could... for some reason, since 2012, dvds in my country and blurays, teh only option audio they have are the original language, and subs ... only the ones of my country. no dubs from other countries, nor subs....
although the bluray has a great cover art, its is still super expensive in my country.
I just hope.... someone might get the soundtrack job done.

you and me both. I am waiting for my dvd to arrive. I do not own bluray, so on that side I can't help... and even if I could... for some reason, since 2012, dvds in my country and blurays, teh only option audio they have are the original language, and subs ... only the ones of my country. no dubs from other countries, nor subs....
although the bluray has a great cover art, its is still super expensive in my country.
I just hope.... someone might get the soundtrack job done.

Well my friend, we share the somewhat the same kind of problems, im from Czech republic and man our distribution plain and simply suck ass, i found myself wondering why they even try when it comes with dvd releases anymore, quality is bad, we are getting old movies late ( we just got for a first time ever Childs play 2 and 3 ) with basic quality and no bonus material anywhere, not a mention about tv shows, they actually released two seasons of The walking dead and after just telling us, well we dont release the rest of it, and thats a one of the most popular tv show these days... So we dont have any kind of secluded "music only track" on BD too, we have to be happy if we do get the movie itself, as long user of playstation which does have BD player this kind of treatment is just sad, so im about to start ignoring our shops and let most of the things send out online....
That said i dont have much hopes for getting a BD with music track option too, and for worse i can order only region 2 version ( kill region locks already its bullshit! ) so i hope that UK version will be good, but i can only hope that US version will have that option because official soundtrack release seems to not being happenning for time being....

Kevin Kiner who provided some additional music for the film has two tracks on his website: The Leap (http://www.kevinkiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/The-Leap.mp3) & Don't Send A Rabbit To Kill A Fox (http://www.kevinkiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Dont-Send-A-Rabbit-To-Kill-A-Fox.mp3).

Thanks CGCJ! :D

Well my friend, we share the somewhat the same kind of problems, im from Czech republic and man our distribution plain and simply suck ass, i found myself wondering why they even try when it comes with dvd releases anymore, quality is bad, we are getting old movies late ( we just got for a first time ever Childs play 2 and 3 ) with basic quality and no bonus material anywhere, not a mention about tv shows, they actually released two seasons of The walking dead and after just telling us, well we dont release the rest of it, and thats a one of the most popular tv show these days... So we dont have any kind of secluded "music only track" on BD too, we have to be happy if we do get the movie itself, as long user of playstation which does have BD player this kind of treatment is just sad, so im about to start ignoring our shops and let most of the things send out online....
That said i dont have much hopes for getting a BD with music track option too, and for worse i can order only region 2 version ( kill region locks already its bullshit! ) so i hope that UK version will be good, but i can only hope that US version will have that option because official soundtrack release seems to not being happenning for time being....

yeah. we both live in europe. Portugal Sucks in this kind of movie distribution. But not in the past... in the past it were original dvds adding only the subtitles and everything else was kept, like extras and stuff. I most of teh times I liek to see my movies with english subs. My transformers movie of 2007 dvd is like that. tons of subs or dubs, and I just chose what I want.
Hansel and Grettel with hunters and Super8, i got those dvds in recent promotion.... and they are official releases IN my country. only english audio, and forced subs. yeah. forced subs because you can deactivate them. Kind like fansubs with hardcoded subs. very stupid!!! I have problems with the translations of my country. "Ghost In The Shell" was raw translated in my language as "Haunted City". I AM NOT KIDDING!!! that is the exact raw translation from my language to English. Here they translated 3x3 eyes (another anime) to "Revolt of the humans".

yeah. we both live in europe. Portugal Sucks in this kind of movie distribution. But not in the past... in the past it were original dvds adding only the subtitles and everything else was kept, like extras and stuff. I most of teh times I liek to see my movies with english subs. My transformers movie of 2007 dvd is like that. tons of subs or dubs, and I just chose what I want.
Hansel and Grettel with hunters and Super8, i got those dvds in recent promotion.... and they are official releases IN my country. only english audio, and forced subs. yeah. forced subs because you can deactivate them. Kind like fansubs with hardcoded subs. very stupid!!! I have problems with the translations of my country. "Ghost In The Shell" was raw translated in my language as "Haunted City". I AM NOT KIDDING!!! that is the exact raw translation from my language to English. Here they translated 3x3 eyes (another anime) to "Revolt of the humans".

Oh yeah i know what you mean, i dont watch movies with our voice over dub like more then 15 years because the translation just sucks and also i like full actor effort, acting is in the voice too...
And oh boy we can really make funny titles too for example...
The gift - Almost perfect crime
The messangers - The house on sunflower field ( like its seriously dumb when you name a horror based on location of house )
Ginger snaps - My sister werewolf
Cruel intentions - Very dangerous friends

Also we did many times adding things to amplify, Speed - Dangerous speed, and stuff like that, most sad fact is that if you are waiting for a release in a theater you cant be even sure if its the same movie in program, its funny....

I've read Mansell had quit half way through the production.

and also Balfe has released his part of the music on his facebook profile in uncompressed wav format.

and also Balfe has released his part of the music on his facebook profile in uncompressed wav format.

And what about the Mansell's score? Didn't it surface until now?

been waiting for that too