AMANNNO
03-28-2017, 10:35 AM
Would be great if someone has the OST from Ghost In The Shell (2017).
Should be released the 31st of March.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1219827/soundtrack
satanicstandII
03-28-2017, 11:34 AM
you were right :)
antovolk
03-30-2017, 04:14 PM
Yeah, does anyone know what's happening with the score album? The "music inspired by" one is already out.
Also - it seems they literally brought Balfe at the start of the month to redo some of Mansell's cues, particularly in the first half of the film. They did a special IMAX preview of the first 15 mins in late Feb and Mansell's score was stunning there, in the final film, a bit of a letdown
satanicstandII
03-30-2017, 04:22 PM
probably just delayed, i hope so. not get cancelled.
RabinJablonsky
03-30-2017, 04:33 PM
Valyrious
03-30-2017, 04:38 PM
Clint Mansell is doing it? Holy hell that's incredible.
satanicstandII
03-30-2017, 04:46 PM
Clint Mansell is doing it? Holy hell that's incredible.
clint mansell with lorne balfe
antovolk
03-30-2017, 05:03 PM
Clint Mansell is doing it? Holy hell that's incredible.
his parts of the score are indeed incredible.
TheSkeletonMan939
03-30-2017, 07:42 PM
Clint Mansell is doing it? Holy hell that's incredible.
He was originally. Then some studio exec thought the music wasn't stupid enough, so Lorne Balfe was hired at the 11th hour to turn on the Zimmer-machine3000 and replace some of Mansell's work.
Vickers
03-30-2017, 07:51 PM
Clint Mansell hasn't said a word about it. Which leads me to think his experience might not have been a happy one.
And there's currently no marketing for it. For a score that is meant to be released tomorrow, that is highly unusual.
antovolk
03-30-2017, 08:11 PM
He was originally. Then some studio exec thought the music wasn't stupid enough, so Lorne Balfe was hired at the 11th hour to turn on the Zimmer-machine3000 and replace some of Mansell's work.
I was looking up Lorne's last posts and he started recording his bits....2 weeks ago. So last minute. Wtf. What happened?
Clint Mansell hasn't said a word about it. Which leads me to think his experience might not have been a happy one.
And there's currently no marketing for it. For a score that is meant to be released tomorrow, that is highly unusual.
Exactly. They even had some cover art for the Mansell one too at the start of the month.
missionmikey
03-30-2017, 09:46 PM
TheSkeletonMan939
03-30-2017, 09:58 PM
I was looking up Lorne's last posts and he started recording his bits....2 weeks ago. So last minute. Wtf. What happened?
Likely a situation where the film received negative feedback at press screenings. As an executive this is the absolute most terrifying thing that can happen to you. With the release date ever nearing the only thing that can be salvaged is the music, so they throw it out at the last second and demand something generic to be written instead. Think Troy, or the opening Days of Future Past scene.
antovolk
03-30-2017, 10:13 PM
http://download-soundtracks.com/movie_soundtracks/ghost-in-the-shell-soundtrack/#more-50018
That's the music inspired by album, not the score. Only thing from the film in there is Kawai's new arrangement of his theme which appears in the end credits
DAKoftheOTA
03-31-2017, 04:52 AM
He was originally. Then some studio exec thought the music wasn't stupid enough, so Lorne Balfe was hired at the 11th hour to turn on the Zimmer-machine3000 and replace some of Mansell's work.
That's not entirely true
missionmikey
03-31-2017, 08:20 AM
That's the music inspired by album, not the score. Only thing from the film in there is Kawai's new arrangement of his theme which appears in the end credits
I know... but AMANNNO started thread asking for this,....! o_O
Vickers
03-31-2017, 09:15 AM
I know... but AMANNNO started thread asking for this,....! o_O
He asked for the OST (Original Soundtrack). Music Inspired by is not the same as an OST.
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Why is it so difficult to get an official response regarding the score?
ladatree
03-31-2017, 09:24 AM
VGMdb says that it's delayed or something. I haven't much info on it for the past few days so...
Vickers
03-31-2017, 09:37 AM
Hopefully Mansell's untouched score will be released too. They should do a 2-disc release if they want to get more people purchasing the score: Mansell on one disc and then Mansell & Balfe on the other.
AMANNNO
03-31-2017, 09:50 AM
Well- there is no real OST for this movie? I believe the "inspired by Ghost in the Shell" is what i'm referring to. Unless there are more than one attached to this movie?
Vickers
03-31-2017, 10:03 AM
There's an original soundtrack (the score used in the film) and then there's the music inspired by soundtrack which only has one song that is actually used in the film, and that's a reworked theme that plays during the credits.
Originally the score was set to be released today but marketing for the score and pre-orders mysteriously vanished with no official explanation.
AMANNNO
03-31-2017, 10:39 AM
I see- The score for the movie was not that great in my opinion. Having some small hope that the inspired by soundtrack will be better. Lets wait and see where and when it will appear again then..
antovolk
03-31-2017, 11:16 AM
That's not entirely true
Hm....
(Seriously though, such a last minute change is super odd? And obviously this is the reason why the album release has been fucked around with)
For what it's worth I was at this pop up exhibit thing last week where they played the score and I asked the staff there when it'd be available and they obviously didn't know.
rubow
03-31-2017, 12:02 PM
to turn on the Zimmer-machine3000
xD
AMANNNO
03-31-2017, 12:09 PM
Remesyx added it!
Thread 216003
Kadron
03-31-2017, 08:25 PM
people should Reeeeeally stop posting links without clarifying that its NOT the score they're posting
antovolk
04-01-2017, 03:54 PM
Those wondering about the original score release for #GhostintheShell. @LakeshoreRecs is NOT releasing. No further info is available.
https://twitter.com/tracksounds/status/847887508109131776
Guess we'll have to wait for a leak then....or just settle with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkaJ306bAeQ
foxtown
04-01-2017, 05:36 PM
Was the music which starts at 0:48sec in the movie? Maybe it was but I'm not sure if I heard this choir...
I want the score aswell, or sessions, or promo.. anything
They should release the bluray with an isolated score for both, Mansells and Balfes scores.
TheSkeletonMan939
04-01-2017, 05:39 PM
Isolated scores are notoriously rare these days. :(
antovolk
04-01-2017, 05:43 PM
Was the music which starts at 0:48sec in the movie? Maybe it was but I'm not sure if I heard this choir...
It's the final cue before the end credits.
SpaceMarin
04-01-2017, 06:35 PM
They should release the bluray with an isolated score for both, Mansells and Balfes scores.
Lol. That would require effort on the studio's part. Studios don't make efforts like that anymore.
foxtown
04-01-2017, 09:24 PM
Lorne Balfe wrote on facebook, that he is awaiting news about the release and "No ones score was rejected ! It's a collaboration".
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And in general: Why on earth do we limit ourself to those 74min of music.. can't they release all the music in a digital format?
TheSkeletonMan939
04-01-2017, 09:32 PM
Why on earth do we limit ourself to those 74min of music.. can't they release all the music in a digital format?
That would require more mastering work and would test the patience (and wallets) of many prospective buyers.
CmderShepard
04-02-2017, 04:07 AM
I hope we get the score, that's all I'm after for the music of this film, forget the "inspired by" crap
Timeisnear
04-02-2017, 03:18 PM
Well i dont like much "inspired by crap" too but in this case we have Kenji Kawai there inspired by his own work kind of... but the remix is bad, i dont have any idea why someone had to add a freaking dubstep to such a unique song...
lookin4it
04-03-2017, 12:41 AM
satanicstandII
04-03-2017, 01:27 AM
AMANNNO
04-03-2017, 09:24 AM
- never mind; this is again something different and not the real movie OST
J A W S
04-03-2017, 03:18 PM
This was cancelled by the label.
AMANNNO
04-06-2017, 12:07 PM
You can here one track of the real score here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSN8ndwJPVo
Tech49
04-21-2017, 08:18 PM
Why they cancelled this amazing score? I don't understand this kind of things. You have such an awesome score and you decide not to release it because, why not? It has been any official explanation for this?
J A W S
04-21-2017, 08:25 PM
What a horrible fate for a good score....
DAKoftheOTA
04-21-2017, 08:44 PM
I personally believe that Lorne Balfe is literally the only person to have the score on hand. Not even Clint Mansell.
TheSkeletonMan939
04-22-2017, 01:01 AM
... what? Huh? Why? Any composer wants to keep an archive of his work if possible.
AL.CODA
04-22-2017, 05:12 PM
He was originally. Then some studio exec thought the music wasn't stupid enough, so Lorne Balfe was hired at the 11th hour to turn on the Zimmer-machine3000 and replace some of Mansell's work.
opinion / speculation / fact ?
what is it? In case of the last...source?
TheSkeletonMan939
04-22-2017, 05:40 PM
Speculation, although I'm basing it on similar situations where test audiences didn't respond well to the film or its music. I'm essentially talking out of my ass like everyone else; we probably won't learn "the real story" for a few years, or at least Mansell's side of it.
AL.CODA
04-24-2017, 11:01 AM
Speculation, although I'm basing it on similar situations where test audiences didn't respond well to the film or its music. I'm essentially talking out of my ass like everyone else; we probably won't learn "the real story" for a few years, or at least Mansell's side of it.
LOL ok, thanks. Appreciate your way of putting this very much... (unlike you, people take themselves and their opinions way too serious these days ;-) thanks!)
Nevertheless.. I guess you're right, we won't get to know how this came about very soon. It's a shame though.
Spotify has this collection from a spotify user:
https://open.spotify.com/user/mezik17/playlist/5VPbHXPB2Q38cOlSkgqApy
Are the first 8 tracks from this movie?
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edit: never mind..these tracks seem to be from the original and not...I don't know..it's vague, I need to dive into this. If only I had time :)
TheSkeletonMan939
04-25-2017, 05:37 PM
Here's another factor I hadn't thought of: AFM fees. Even if Lakeshore were given permission to produce a new OST program with Balfe's contributions, they would be hesitant to because they'd be paying for the usage of not one set of scoring sessions but two. That's pretty expensive, and definitely not worth the cost.
Max Rockatansky
04-26-2017, 01:59 AM
This is hella gay. And that's my contribution to this thread.
Exarch13
04-27-2017, 06:01 AM
Thank you
Tech49
04-27-2017, 03:58 PM
I found this petition in change.org for the score release. I don't know if this will truly work but at least we can try.
https://www.change.org/p/paramount-release-the-ghost-in-the-shell-2017-soundtrack-gitsost
Domino96
05-01-2017, 01:20 PM
Is anywhere a recording of IMAX first look? I wonder how Mansell's music in shelling scene sounds like.
maxsummers
05-01-2017, 07:20 PM
Pretty sure there isn't. I'm curious too, though, even a description would be cool. Someone on here attended the IMAX event.
antovolk
05-02-2017, 10:29 AM
Pretty sure there isn't. I'm curious too, though, even a description would be cool. Someone on here attended the IMAX event.
I did, yeah. The two major score differences between the IMAX preview and the final film are the shelling sequence and the tracking shot following the ONE YEAR LATER title card. The rest is mostly the same as in the IMAX preview but re-recorded (it sounds a bit different, more subdued)
Here's the thing - and I'm sure I mentioned this before, Balfe's score in the final film's shelling sequence is somewhat thematically close to Kawai's original - very sparse sounding, with a very similar sounding choir. Mansell's score is very very far removed from that. Best way to describe this - take the cue you hear in this (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSN8ndwJPVo) from 0:48 onwards (it features in the film's very final scene) and imagine a slower, darker and more ominous sounding version. Also, the cue immediately preceding it in the IMAX preview (which is still there in the final film but re-recorded by Balfe and microedited accordingly) actually leads directly into this theme. Hopefully that'll help one imagine what it sounded like.
UPD: there's an HDRip out, here are the credits for the two recording sessions. No mention of official score release in the credits, just the Inspired By album so they must have cancelled it when the film was finished.

Tech49
05-02-2017, 07:33 PM
UPD: there's an HDRip out, here are the credits for the two recording sessions. No mention of official score release in the credits, just the Inspired By album so they must have cancelled it when the film was finished.
What is this of the HDRip? It's the movie what are you talking about?
Anyway, I think that the appearence of Balfe in the last moments for re-recording the music maybe created a bit of chaos in the studio and they didn't had enough time for making a proper album release so that's why they cancelled it (or just delayed for a long time).
antovolk
05-02-2017, 08:21 PM
What is this of the HDRip? It's the movie what are you talking about?
Anyway, I think that the appearence of Balfe in the last moments for re-recording the music maybe created a bit of chaos in the studio and they didn't had enough time for making a proper album release so that's why they cancelled it (or just delayed for a long time).
of the film - it's been released on Korean VODs.
TheSkeletonMan939
05-02-2017, 11:58 PM
Whenever there are two or more scoring sessions for a film, chances of a soundtrack release immediately drop. It happened with Sphere and I would guess that it happened with Ghost in the Shell. Timing isn't an issue, nor necessarily is the poor box office intake, it's money. Paramount doesn't want to pay for the assemblage of a new soundtrack with both Mansell's and Balfe's music, and Lakeshore doesn't want to pay an unholy amount of money for using the content of two sessions rather than one.
maxsummers
05-03-2017, 12:47 AM
I did, yeah. The two major score differences between the IMAX preview and the final film are the shelling sequence and the tracking shot following the ONE YEAR LATER title card. The rest is mostly the same as in the IMAX preview but re-recorded (it sounds a bit different, more subdued)
Here's the thing - and I'm sure I mentioned this before, Balfe's score in the final film's shelling sequence is somewhat thematically close to Kawai's original - very sparse sounding, with a very similar sounding choir. Mansell's score is very very far removed from that. Best way to describe this - take the cue you hear in this (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSN8ndwJPVo) from 0:48 onwards (it features in the film's very final scene) and imagine a slower, darker and more ominous sounding version. Also, the cue immediately preceding it in the IMAX preview (which is still there in the final film but re-recorded by Balfe and microedited accordingly) actually leads directly into this theme. Hopefully that'll help one imagine what it sounded like.
Thank you for the description! I was expecting Kenji Kawai's Utai IV: Reawakening to be used for the shelling sequence as it was when it was played live with the footage at the film's launch event in Tokyo so I was very surprised when the new piece of music started playing. You're totally right though; the piece in the film is clearly an homage to Utai IV, with the choir vocals, etc. just more trippy/electronica in style. I liked it, but Utai IV is so epic and haunting, I do wish they'd kept it, especially as it was composed specifically for the live action. They also cut the shot of Major slowly opening her eyes right at the end of the sequence.
I had no idea there was so much legal/money stuff involved behind the scenes with film scoring and subsequent releases. What an unfortunate mess. Based on all the speculation and now these credits, it does seem likely the score having an official release was scrapped before the movie even came out.
antovolk
05-03-2017, 07:49 AM
Thank you for the description! I was expecting Kenji Kawai's Utai IV: Reawakening to be used for the shelling sequence as it was when it was played live with the footage at the film's launch event in Tokyo so I was very surprised when the new piece of music started playing. You're totally right though; the piece in the film is clearly an homage to Utai IV, with the choir vocals, etc. just more trippy/electronica in style. I liked it, but Utai IV is so epic and haunting, I do wish they'd kept it, especially as it was composed specifically for the live action. They also cut the shot of Major slowly opening her eyes right at the end of the sequence.
I had no idea there was so much legal/money stuff involved behind the scenes with film scoring and subsequent releases. What an unfortunate mess. Based on all the speculation and now these credits, it does seem likely the score having an official release was scrapped before the movie even came out.
Bear in mind it's likely, any temp cutting aside (I mean it's obvious the shelling was temped with the original Kawai opening/the rearranged Utai IV - was just rearranged and re recorded for the new film) that the Tokyo thing was done for promo only, even Sanders said at the time as much and that he didn't know yet if the final film would also use Kawai for the shelling. I've already made my opinion clear that tbh I prefer Mansell's version, I was utterly blown away when I first heard it in the IMAX preview.
I figure part of the reason Balfe was brought on last minute was because Mansell it seems really tried to make his own thing out of the score without paying homage to Kawai.
Domino96
05-08-2017, 11:15 AM
I made this video to help spread the word about our petition. It contains music from the best quality movie rip I found on the Internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQaeErNLTG8
thepersona
05-08-2017, 03:02 PM
PeteCo
05-09-2017, 04:00 AM
Is it possible that the DVD has the score isolated?
Killgrave
05-09-2017, 04:16 AM
Is it possible that the DVD has the score isolated?
Doubtful. An isolated score is a rare commodity on commercially produced Blu-rays/DVDs. The only houses that do isolated scores are boutique labels like Twilight.
antovolk
05-09-2017, 08:47 AM
PeteCo
05-10-2017, 05:18 PM
Thanks, everyone. Helpful. Disheartening for Mansell lovers, though. Shame.
screenthemes123
05-13-2017, 06:13 PM
Have been fascinated by this thread and the interest shown in this score. Sadly I was unimpressed by the film, derivative tripe of the first order. Mansell, I admire greatly.
The score in the film was patchy to say the least. As a commercial release, it is understandable why it will not it the shelves. It really was truly dire. Just noise. As a
listening experience away from the movie, it sounded like any other synthetic based score that is doing the rounds in Hollywood at the minute.
Shame. Here's hoping the new Bladerunner score meets everyone's expectations. That's one score I have such high expectations for.
TheSkeletonMan939
05-13-2017, 09:21 PM
Shame. Here's hoping the new Bladerunner score meets everyone's expectations. That's one score I have such high expectations for.
Why? Johann Johannson only proved his lack of musical intelligence with Sicario and Arrival.
Imperivm
05-13-2017, 11:18 PM
Why? Johann Johannson only proved his lack of musical intelligence with Sicario and Arrival.
Remember my friend: that's your opinion. I personally liked Arrival but admit it doesn't always fit the scenes it was played in.
Sicario works better to me, but I think it could have been better.
Prisoners and The Theory of Everything are much better in every way, in my opinion.
As for Blade Runner 2049, I'm not expecting a great score (I could be disappointed if I did) but I'm still interested in his work, since he's got some kind of talent.
antovolk
05-15-2017, 09:22 PM
Someone at LLL Records on FSM forums said that the possibility of a score release is a definite no.
rubow
05-17-2017, 12:44 PM
Someone at LLL Records on FSM forums said that the possibility of a score release is a definite no.
So the wait for a leak begins, or do unreleased scores never leak?
screenthemes123
05-18-2017, 06:46 AM
La La Land insider says, "No chance of score's release." That's good news to me... ;-)
tnpir4000
05-18-2017, 12:40 PM
La La Land insider says, "No chance of score's release." That's good news to me... ;-)
What makes you say that?
corysun
07-18-2017, 07:48 PM
So...this score seems certain that it won't be published. What a pity!
http://vgmdb.net/album/65791
Killgrave
07-18-2017, 10:28 PM
Maybe a boutique label will pick it up or there will be a digital only release like with Sunshine. The best way to get the point across: buy the movie. Don't torrent it, don't bootleg it, buy it. That's your best chance of getting a release of the soundtrack.
Timeisnear
07-19-2017, 03:36 PM
I didnt noticed in the "additional music" that there is a Kevin Riepl included, who would guess that man behind Doom and Unreal tournament 3 would help with this, i wonder which parts was done by him...
maxsummers
07-20-2017, 10:22 PM
A Youtube user has done a pretty great job of isolating the score from the movie by trying to remove dialogue and sound FX. They did a bunch of tracks after the Korean VOD release appeared online, and now that the HD VOD/Blu-ray is out, they've updated with some revised tracks and new ones. Not ideal, of course, but better than nothing and a job well done IMO.
'Lights of Soho' (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEC-Ka47U-s)
'Identity' (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNTVAugAyOE)
'Outlet Comes Clean' (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOpmchyalLk)
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