bobtheknob
10-23-2016, 06:47 PM
Sharing has concluded.



Thanks for your support
& participation, it was fun!

blackie74
10-23-2016, 07:32 PM
hi bob!! please both links, thanks

bobtheknob
10-23-2016, 08:09 PM
This package is now restored and is available again for download.
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hi bob!! please both links, thanksLink(s) sent, happy listening. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42753709/Photobucket/music.gif

blackie74
10-23-2016, 09:43 PM
received it, downloaded it, thanks

Petros
12-18-2016, 05:12 PM
Hi Bob.
May I have the links for Standard CD Audio Lossless, please?
Thank you very much!

bobtheknob
12-18-2016, 05:30 PM
Hi Bob. May I have the links for Standard CD Audio Lossless, please? Thank you very much!No problem, your wish is my command........
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grandebulla1967
12-18-2016, 06:21 PM
Hi. You simply forgot sir Colin Davis version, recorded in 1996 with the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra and more. Live recording with an excellent sound.
This is very good too. In this, Ben Heppner sings glorious, much better than with Chailly (1 year ago) and is a very good version indeed. I don't know if is better than this, but you must hear it too.
Greetings.

User 7526
12-18-2016, 06:53 PM
Hi, could I get the Surround Sound FLAC please? I am interested in hearing the "Ultimate 8th." :)

bobtheknob
12-18-2016, 09:07 PM
Hi. You simply forgot sir Colin Davis version, recorded in 1996 with the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra and more. Live recording with an excellent sound.
This is very good too. In this, Ben Heppner sings glorious, much better than with Chailly (1 year ago) and is a very good version indeed. I don't know if is better than this, but you must hear it too.
Greetings.Not to be argumentative in the slightest, but no, I didn't forget it. I simply don't have it. I heard the Davis recording and elected not to get it because it has too many issues. Ben Heppner does sing a very fine 8th as you say, but there are seven other soloists, and the women are simply not up to the job, particularly in Part 2, where they are much too loud in the pianissimo passages, plus they are miked so unnaturally close that you can literally hear them inhaling between phrases.

The worst part, however, is Davis himself and the way he paces the symphony. He clearly does not have a clear vision of the overall arc of this symphony, making transitions sound as if they are suddenly coming out of nowhere, with no discernible tempo relationship to what immediately preceded the transition or what follows it. The tempo changes are quite disconcerting and highly distracting in the music of a composer who had a brilliant command of large forms, and whose music can, in the right hands, flow effortlessly for well over an hour, with each new section's emergence seeming as natural and inevitable as could be. This was tragically not the case with Davis.

Davis was far more successful with the music of Berlioz, whose music is every bit as "big" as Mahler's, of course, in more than one example - but I think what makes Davis more successful at it is that Berlioz tended to be a more episodic composer than Mahler. (And I mean this with no criticism intended whatsoever of Berlioz.) With Berlioz, to a certain extent, you can get away with simply making each individual section in the music sound great, and the performance will be successful. With Mahler, however, that is not enough. You have to make each individual section sound great, as well as showing each section's relationship to the surrounding material. This is where Davis has his biggest weakness as a Mahler conductor. This was also a major problem for him in the 1st/4th Symphonies, as well as in Das Lied von der Erde.

So after hearing his 8th in a copy that was owned by an acquaintance, I chose not to spend my money on it.
Hi, could I get the Surround Sound FLAC please? I am interested in hearing the "Ultimate 8th." :)I am certainly more than happy to send you this recording, but for the "Ultimate"(?) Mahler 8th, you might want to take a look at this (Thread 212887).

In the meantime, however, no problem, your wish is my command........
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Ta daaaah! Link(s) sent, happy listening. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42753709/Photobucket/music.gif

grandebulla1967
12-18-2016, 11:04 PM
Not to be argumentative in the slightest, but no, I didn't forget it. I simply don't have it. I heard the Davis recording and elected not to get it because it has too many issues. Ben Heppner does sing a very fine 8th as you say, but there are seven other soloists, and the women are simply not up to the job, particularly in Part 2, where they are much too loud in the pianissimo passages, plus they are miked so unnaturally close that you can literally hear them inhaling between phrases.

The worst part, however, is Davis himself and the way he paces the symphony. He clearly does not have a clear vision of the overall arc of this symphony, making transitions sound as if they are suddenly coming out of nowhere, with no discernible tempo relationship to what immediately preceded the transition or what follows it. The tempo changes are quite disconcerting and highly distracting in the music of a composer who had a brilliant command of large forms, and whose music can, in the right hands, flow effortlessly for well over an hour, with each new section's emergence seeming as natural and inevitable as could be. This was tragically not the case with Davis.

Davis was far more successful with the music of Berlioz, whose music is every bit as "big" as Mahler's, of course, in more than one example - but I think what makes Davis more successful at it is that Berlioz tended to be a more episodic composer than Mahler. (And I mean this with no criticism intended whatsoever of Berlioz.) With Berlioz, to a certain extent, you can get away with simply making each individual section in the music sound great, and the performance will be successful. With Mahler, however, that is not enough. You have to make each individual section sound great, as well as showing each section's relationship to the surrounding material. This is where Davis has his biggest weakness as a Mahler conductor. This was also a major problem for him in the 1st/4th Symphonies, as well as in Das Lied von der Erde.

So after hearing his 8th in a copy that was owned by an acquaintance, I chose not to spend my money on it.I am certainly more than happy to send you this recording, but for the "Ultimate"(?) Mahler 8th, you might want to take a look at this (Thread 212887).

In the meantime, however, no problem, your wish is my command........
http://rr-bb.com/images/smilies/Date%20Setting.gif
Ta daaaah! Link(s) sent, happy listening. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42753709/Photobucket/music.gif

Sorry, but i'm absolutely disagree with you. This is good: we have many points of view of discussing about art.
Meanwhile, there's another versions like the conducted by Gary Bertini, Michael Gielen, Kent Nagano and David Zinman that has many good points and that you must hear them too.
Sorry about that, but i have heard ALL you noticed and the others too. (I have more than 40 years listening classical music!!!!) so.....

bobtheknob
12-19-2016, 12:07 AM
Sorry, but i'm absolutely disagree with you.That's fine, there's nothing wrong with that, so long as we are polite to each other about it (and you have been nothing less than polite, so thank you for that https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42753709/Photobucket/thumb.gif ).
This is good: we have many points of view of discussing about art.Agreed. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42753709/Photobucket/nod.gif
Meanwhile, there's another versions like the conducted by Gary Bertini, Michael Gielen, Kent Nagano and David Zinman that has many good points and that you must hear them too.I got the Nagano only a few months ago, quite a while after I posted the Chailly version, and it is indeed quite good, giving the Chailly a real run for their money. There were a few places where I have some different personal preferences about the pacing, but I nevertheless felt that Nagano did an overall very good job with it (quite a bit better than Davis, to my ears). I'll have to check out the others that you mentioned as I get a chance to do so.
Sorry about that, but i have heard ALL you noticed and the others too. (I have more than 40 years listening classical music!!!!) so.....I appreciate your viewpoint a great deal. We never get too old to stop learning and considering other viewpoints. Like you, I have been listening to classical music for about 40 years, so we both apparently have a pretty solid foundation to work from.

You might be interested in the Wit-Warsaw Philharmonic recording on Naxos that I have ordered on Blu-Ray Audio. It's in Hi-Res Stereo and 5.1 Surround Sound. (I'll also downmix the stereo version to Redbook CD Audio at 44.1 kHz/16-bit for people who would prefer a smaller file.) It's in the mail right now and I'm waiting for it impatiently, but as soon as it arrives, I'll get it ripped into .flac format and post it here as quickly as possible.

I posted an .mp3 sample from amazon.com of the apotheosis-like ending here in this thread (Thread 212887), if you're interested in giving it a quick listen.

User 7526
12-19-2016, 03:08 AM
Received and thank you!

Petros
12-19-2016, 10:42 AM
Link received.
Wonderful upload!
Thank you so much for your great work, Bob!
You are right:This is a great Mahler listening experience!