How to identify a FLAC file whether it was originally ripped from CD or converted from lossy files (mp3,m4a). Because, some FLAC files are no more better than mp3's.

Don't use what Russians use.

AudioChecker.exe is garbage.

Check for rotational velocidensity degradation, if you find it, you know it came from a lossy file

Audacity is a good option!

1. Start Audacity

2. Set the proper Spectrogram preferences
Window type (apodization function) = Blackman-Harris or Hanning or Kaiser
Window size (fast Fourier transform window) = 1024
Minimum frequency = 0 Hz
Maximum frequency = 23000 Hz or 23 kHz
Gain = 20 dB
Range = 110-120 dB

3. Open the audio file of interest
File -> Open

4. Use the viewing options to fit the spectrum vertically to your screen
View -> Fit Vertically
Confirm that the time scale is visible on your plot
Confirm that the frequency scale is visible on your plot
Pull down the middle divider for the best view!

Lossless:


Same track lossy:

Thanks Zaralyth for the insight!

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. No one uses Audacity for spectrograms but Z. No one. Unless it's a massive coincidence. :p

A guide for Audition:

1. Start Audition

2. Set the proper Spectral Display preferences[/list]
Window Function (apodization function) = Blackman-Harris or Hanning or Kaiser
Spectral Resolution (FFT window) = 1024
Decibel Range = 160-180 dB
Panels in the Window menu = Editor, Files, Frequency Analysis, Properties, Selection / View, Tools, Zoom

3. Open the audio file of interest
File -> Open

4. Use the viewing options to select the Spectral Display
View -> Show Spectral Display
Your version of Audition may show a green bar for zooming

5. View only a single channel
Edit -> Extract Channels to Mono Files
Choose either the left or right channel in the Editor pulldown menu (this is located above the waveform plot)
Confirm that the time scale is visible on your plot
Confirm that the frequency scale is visible on your plot
Use a linear frequency scale (right-click on the scale and select Full Linear)



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For command line you can use Sox

1. Open a command shell or terminal

2. Make sure your PATH variable includes /usr/local/bin & /usr/local/lib
[echo $PATH

3. Confirm that the sox binary is located in /usr/local/bin
locate sox

4. Confirm that your installation is functional by playing an audio file
sox "C:\My Directory\My Folder\my.flac" -d (for Windows)
sox /My \ Directory/My \ Folder/my.flac -d (for OS X or Linux; or drag and drop into the terminal)
Hit Ctrl-C to abort the operation

5. Generate a full audio file screenshot (only Windows command lines will be given from this point on as the corresponding OS X and Linux commands are self-evident)
sox "C:\My Directory\My Folder\fullsong.flac" -n remix 1 spectrogram -x 3000 -y 513 -z 120 -w Kaiser -o "C:\My Directory\My Folder\song.png"

6. Generate a zoomed screenshot at the 1:00 minute mark for 4 seconds (modify these parameters to zoom in on your particular audio region of interest)
sox "C:\My Directory\My Folder\song.flac" -n remix 1 spectrogram -X 500 -y 1025 -z 120 -w Kaiser -S 1:00 -d 0:04 -o "C:\My Directory\My Folder\partialsong.png"

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And there's also Spec but it isn't very good for viewing image..
http://spek.cc/

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How to identify a FLAC file whether it was originally ripped from CD or converted from lossy files (mp3,m4a). Because, some FLAC files are no more better than mp3's.

I hope your question is answered!

Thanks Zaralyth for the insight!


Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. No one uses Audacity for spectrograms but Z. No one. Unless it's a massive coincidence. :p

It would be wonderful if you guys don't say such high accusations out of nowhere with no proof other than "Z is the only one that uses Audicity" how do you know that? Some other people might, too.

:ashine:

It would be wonderful if you guys don't say such high accusations out of nowhere with no proof other than "Z is the only one that uses Audicity" how do you know that? Some other people might, too.

How'd I know you'd be the one to say this? It wouldn't be unusual for him to have a sock-puppet.


I had a crazy thought: are 3D spectograms a thing?

It's really tiring to see people shit on Z so much over here. Specially of all people, you two. Funny how Lockdown likes to pass as a little angel who never makes no trouble in the forum but then he starts shit with comments like those.

It's never good to make accusations of people without proof anyway. It doesn't make you look good. Literally anyone else could use Audacity here and you don't know.. but of course it has to be Z using a sock puppet account. :169:

It's really tiring to see people shit on Z so much over here. Specially of all people, you two. Funny how Lockdown likes to pass as a little angel who never makes no trouble in the forum but then he starts shit with comments like those.

It's never good to make accusations of people without proof anyway. It doesn't make you look good. Literally anyone else could use Audacity here and you don't know.. but of course it has to be Z using a sock puppet account. :169:

I'm using Audacity right now for this track I'm working on, however I may need to end up employing Adobe Audition for certain effects.

I'm using Audacity right now for this track I'm working on, however I may need to end up employing Adobe Audition for certain effects.

NO! Didn't you hear! It has to be Z! Z'S USING A SOCKPUPPET ACOUNT! BAN THEM! BAN THE EVIL! BAN SATAN! :laugh:

Well Done Lockdown And Skelly! You Set The Ponyo Off!!!! I Hope You Are Proud Of Yourselves... :laugh:

Well Done Lockdown And Skelly! You Set The Ponyo Off!!!! I Hope You Are Proud Of Yourselves... :laugh:

I'm a dog with rabies!

NO! Didn't you hear! It has to be Z! Z'S USING A SOCKPUPPET ACOUNT! BAN THEM! BAN THE EVIL! BAN SATAN! :laugh:

https://media.giphy.com/media/YCaVj2dMc0ATu/giphy.gif

Bleh. Don't want any drama now. Especially when Momo hasn't been on Shrine as much nowadays.

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Well Done Lockdown And Skelly! You Set The Ponyo Off!!!! I Hope You Are Proud Of Yourselves... :laugh:
All I was doing was being thankful too... :sad:

Bleh. Don't want any drama now. Especially when Momo hasn't been on Shrine as much nowadays.

Not even drama. Some of us here really blow everything out of proportion.

But hey! If you guys watch someone literally accuse someone of being a sockpuppet account just because, of a stupid dumb belief that goes to nowhere, yeah! It's fine! Do not go against it, be stupid sheep. Let people do things like that with no problem. This is why this forum is like it is, lol.

Yesterday I also had a guess of who was the sockpuppet account attacking Mr. Gold but you didn't see me saying a name because it's just wrong to accuse someone.

Leave Momo alone for fuck's sake. Lockdown, you are no fucking saint, stop acting like one. It's tiring. It's really tiring to see you act in the forum like if you were a innocent person who never does no bad in the forum but then you just GO and do shit like this and expect people to do not confront you over it. But I'm different. I never. shut up. :)

All I was doing was being thankful too... :sad:

Well. Don't! :laugh:

Why the fuck all the time when someone makes a thread asking about something, there's always a group of people (usually, the same ones) who out of the blue initiate insults / bullying / arguments that have nothing to do with the original question and then try to make it look like it was a ''joke''...?


The FFShrine debate team motto: "we're really bad at what we do!"

Oh, Hunter, you're funny. :)

Well. Don't! :laugh:

LOL ! :laugh:

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Also Ṿ�γαgεr sent me a PM on Saturday which debunks the Suckpuppet Suspicions...

Check for rotational velocidensity degradation, if you find it, you know it came from a lossy file

You forgot to mention that you'll only acquire an accurate reading if you're facing north.

SOX is a better utility.

But it requires you to know about using CMD.
Which means you could use a batch script to make it easier.

You can customize settings so much better.

Except the official developer dropped support for FLAC, so everything will need to be transcoded to WAV or something.

Unless you know how to compile yourself and manually add FLAC support.

The only problem with anything open source is the devs get lazy and just say "compile it yourself" and "it works well enough for me".

You forgot to mention that you'll only acquire an accurate reading if you're facing north.

I mean, I figure that's just common sense.

Wrong thread.