FF1WithAllThieves
02-22-2005, 12:56 AM
This one's going to be very short. At most, it will be five rounds long, with 32 participants. Bosses and such are included, but *spoiler (even though there is almost no plot in FFI)* Garland will only count once. It shouldn't take too long to come up with contestants, so go ahead and post a few monsters that absolutely have to be in it. Finally, if you think my idea really sucks, please feel free to say so.
hb smokey
02-22-2005, 05:39 AM
I don't think the idea sucks, and I also don't think it's going to stay open very long; there are enough Rumbles as is, and I'm not the only one that says that.
CRUNCH BAR
02-22-2005, 07:02 AM
Smokey's right, it's not a bad idea, we just have too many rumbles here.
FF1WithAllThieves
02-22-2005, 08:42 PM
I see your point. I'll just bottle up the idea then. Rumble postponed.
Ilsoap
02-23-2005, 05:09 AM
I only come to the classics area of this forum (because those are the only Final Fantasys I care about), so I'd be up for the rumble.
FF1WithAllThieves
02-23-2005, 10:25 PM
Thank you for your support, but it looks like there are too many rumbles going on. Be on the lookout for this one to come back later on, and we can have the suggestions then.
Agent0042
02-25-2005, 05:12 AM
FF1WithAllThieves --- if you'll hang tight for just a little while longer, I plan to retire the FFX-2 Rumble soon and then we can do this.
rev0lver0cel0t
02-28-2005, 09:45 PM
hurry
Agent0042
03-01-2005, 12:25 AM
No point in telling me to hurry. The FFX-2 Rumble will end when it ends and you can track its progress by visiting it. Until then, probably best to leave this thread be.
Agent0042
03-19-2005, 05:17 AM
Awright, we're all clear!
CRUNCH BAR
03-19-2005, 07:43 AM
We must include WarMech.
FF1WithAllThieves
03-19-2005, 02:45 PM
One thing I need to ask all of you: should we include monsters with prefixes? In other words, if we already have ogres, should we also include WzOgres?
OmegaWeapon
03-19-2005, 07:56 PM
I think you should, technically it is a different monster.
FF1WithAllThieves
03-19-2005, 09:28 PM
Yes, plus WzOgre would be my choice to win the whole thing. Keep posting suggestions!
Agent0042
03-20-2005, 03:40 AM
Prefixes is a good idea. I guess since you said bosses are included, Bahamut and Chaos can and should be in it. Otherwise, I'm about useless. The only other monster I remember from FFI is Sahagin [I think that's how you spell it], but maybe some more will come back to me once we start doing this.
FF1WithAllThieves
03-20-2005, 05:06 AM
Actually, Bahamut is not an enemy in FFI. You're thinking of Tiamat, and that's another one for the list. And as I already said, Garland only counts once, so Chaos is the same as Garland.
OmegaWeapon
03-20-2005, 05:14 AM
Are some of the special monsters from Dawn of Souls going to be included, or just the monsters from the original version? Also, if you haven't already done so include the four fiends, they're awesome!
FF1WithAllThieves
03-20-2005, 09:36 PM
I was planning on only using names from the original, since they're so much funnier. If I get a massive swarm of people demanding otherwise I will, and I might put the name from DOS in parenthesis, but I don't plan on putting in the extras from the new dungeons.
CRUNCH BAR
03-20-2005, 11:19 PM
Kary and Maliris should be in it since they were in the original.
Agent0042
03-21-2005, 03:34 AM
I've never played Dawn of Souls, so count one person that has no interest in seeing any monsters from it in this.
CRUNCH BAR
03-21-2005, 04:19 AM
It's alright for on the bus or train(when one gets bored, they can whip out the gameboy^_^)
FF1WithAllThieves
03-21-2005, 04:35 AM
I think Maliris is Kraken in the original. Once I get more time I'll put up a bigger list, but for now, keep on posting necessaries.
rev0lver0cel0t
03-22-2005, 06:29 PM
Ocho and Evilman...for my vote...and as always WzOgres
FF1WithAllThieves
03-22-2005, 08:57 PM
OK, I've got time now, so I'm going to post all the monsters I can think of and we can choose from there.
Imp
GrImp
Wolf
GrWolf
WrWolf
FrWolf
Madpony
Nitemare
Bone
R. Bone
Creep
Crawl
Geist
Ghoul
Specter
Ogre
GrOgre
WzOgre
Sahag
R. Sahag
Wz. Sahag
Shark
Gr. Shark
MudGol
RockGol
IronGol
Arachnid
Spider
Scorpion
Lobster
Scum
Muck
Ooze
Ghost
Wraith
Shadow
Image
Gargoyle
R. Goyle
Wizard
Sorceror
I'm not through yet, but there's a storm coming through and I don't want to risk losing power. I'll post the rest later on. I figure that this rumble should be pretty massive, as it's category-specific and there isn't really anything else in FFI to rumble about.
rev0lver0cel0t
03-22-2005, 09:53 PM
I still think Ocho shoulc be added, plus some of the bosses
FF1WithAllThieves
03-22-2005, 10:23 PM
Storm has subsided now. I'll finish putting the ones that I can think of off the top of my head, starting with Revolver Ocelot's request.
Ocho
NaOcho
Tiger
Saber T
Giant
FrGiant
R. Giant
Iguana
Agama
Cocktrice
Red D
Gas D
Frost D
Zombie D
Earth
Fire
Wind
Water
Hydra
R. Hydra
Caribe
Mage
Fighter
Eye
Evilman
Badman
Catman
Mancat
Vampire
Wz. Vamp.
Guard
Sentry
Phantom
Lich
Kary
Kraken
Tiamat
Warmech
Garland (Chaos)
We're most certainly not going to use all of these, but we have a good list to choose from now. I can't think of any other monsters...
400th post! Hurray!
rev0lver0cel0t
03-23-2005, 03:19 PM
congratz!! he he he, i forgot about NaOcho...can we replace R giant with geist?
hb smokey
03-23-2005, 06:21 PM
So are we going to do only 32 like usual? Because 64 would take way too long unless you somehow made the voting different. And after this edition is over, are you going to continue with different categories?
Agent0042
03-23-2005, 08:30 PM
I'm not sure if there's even 64 on that list. I think 32 would probably be best. I'll probably have to refresh my memory on a lot of these because it's been quite a while since I've played FFI.
Ilsoap
03-24-2005, 12:35 AM
Maybe the rumble shouldn't be one-on-one... there could be four enemies in every matchup instead of two. That'd speed things up.
OmegaWeapon
03-24-2005, 01:45 AM
Or if there's that many maybe you could do two simultaneous battles? Also, I think you had a good idea to include DoS names in parenthesis because then people that haven't played the original or forgot the monster can look it up in that bestiary.
FF1WithAllThieves
03-24-2005, 05:03 AM
I think we should probably just stick with 32, which means we'll have to choose 32 from the list. I'll give a brief description of each monster during the rumble. I'm pretty sure that'll be enough for you guys to go by. As for another category, I can't think of any others involving FFI to do. If you can, I would definitely like to hear it.
Edit: I counted them up, and there are about 80. Is there another way to do the voting so that we could do 64? I really don't want to have to cut out 48 of them, because they're all so cool.
Agent0042
03-24-2005, 05:44 AM
Well, if you wanna have 64 and want to have it go more quickly, I suppose you could do 4-way battles, although I'm not sure if there are enough people that'll be voting to make for very interesting battles.
hb smokey
03-24-2005, 09:52 PM
Edit: I counted them up, and there are about 80. Is there another way to do the voting so that we could do 64? I really don't want to have to cut out 48 of them, because they're all so cool.
Actually, I say go for 64, and do the battles this way:
Either have 2 one-on-one battles going at the same time.
Or have a battle of four contestants in which us voters will have to pick 2 of the 4 monsters. If you pitted four participants against each other, that would equal up to 16 battles for the first round, and making Round 2 whittle down to 32 enemies. Keep with this technique, and Round 2 will have 8 battles, putting 16 enemies into Round 3. 4 more battles will have 8 enemies advance to the Quarter-Finals, and then two battles will have 4 enemies left for the Semi-Finals. At that point, you could switch to 2 separate one-on-one battles, or keep the previous format.
FF1WithAllThieves
03-24-2005, 10:31 PM
I think I'll use the two simultaneous battles format. That'll prevent some good monsters from getting eliminated for being partners with sucky ones. I think now would be a good time to start voting some of them off.
hb smokey
04-02-2005, 07:21 AM
Let's get this show on the road.
FF1WithAllThieves
04-02-2005, 05:44 PM
Here's the list. Post suggestions on which ones to take out; we have to remove about 16. Once we get the final list, we can get this thing started. It looks like we're going to do two battles at once for the first round so that we can do 64, because I can't take out 48 monsters.
Imp
GrImp
Wolf
GrWolf
WrWolf
FrWolf
Madpony
Nitemare
Bone
R. Bone
Creep
Crawl
Geist
Ghoul
Specter
Ogre
GrOgre
WzOgre
Sahag
R. Sahag
Wz. Sahag
Shark
Gr. Shark
MudGol
RockGol
IronGol
Arachnid
Spider
Scorpion
Lobster
Scum
Muck
Ooze
Ghost
Wraith
Shadow
Image
Gargoyle
R. Goyle
Wizard
SorcerorOcho
NaOcho
Tiger
Saber T
Giant
FrGiant
R. Giant
Iguana
Agama
Cocktrice
Red D
Gas D
Frost D
Zombie D
Earth
Fire
Wind
Water
Hydra
R. Hydra
Caribe
Mage
Fighter
Eye
Evilman
Badman
Catman
Mancat
Vampire
Wz. Vamp.
Guard
Sentry
Phantom
Lich
Kary
Kraken
Tiamat
Warmech
Garland (Chaos)
If there are any of these that you don't think should be included, please post it!
Agent0042
04-28-2005, 02:39 AM
Well, if we're gonna do this, let's try it. I don't know if you're gonna get a lot of suggestions though on ones to remove, I guess that may be up to you. How about taking out at least one Wolf and Sahag though --- there are plenty of them.
FF1WithAllThieves
04-28-2005, 08:04 PM
Good plan. I'll just take that little suggestion and narrow it down myself, then. So, the final list is this:
Note: Monsters that are underlined are eliminated, ones in italics have proceeded to the next round, and bolded ones have yet to fight this round.
Imp
Wolf
WrWolf
FrWolf
Madpony
Nitemare
Bone
Creep
Geist
Ogre
WzOgre
Sahag
Wz. Sahag
Shark
MudGol
RockGol
IronGol
Arachnid
Scorpion
Lobster
Scum
Muck
Ghost
Wraith
Gargoyle
R. Goyle
Wizard
Sorceror
Ocho
NaOcho
Tiger
Giant
FrGiant
R. Giant
Iguana
Agama
Cocktrice
Red D
Gas D
Frost D
Zombie D
Earth
Fire
Wind
Water
Hydra
Caribe
Mage
Fighter
Eye
Evilman
Badman
Catman
Mancat
Vampire
Wz. Vamp.
Sentry
Phantom
Lich
Kary
Kraken
Tiamat
Warmech
Garland (Chaos)
That brings it down to 64. I'll do two battles simultaneously to speed things up, and I'll post a description of each monster (i.e. where you find it, what it does, etc.) If there are any objections to the ones I took out, please let me know. If not, please post something so I don't have to double-post.
hb smokey
04-28-2005, 09:02 PM
Let's get ready to rumble!
FF1WithAllThieves
04-29-2005, 02:32 AM
Well folks, here it is. I'm finally starting the rumble. Because we're working with 64 monsters, the first round will do two battles at once. Once it's over with, I'll just go to one at a time. I have a very ghettofied way of doing the bracketing, but it's random, so it works. OK, let round one commence!
Tiamat - Boss in the sky castle and fiend of wind. He has high HP relative to any enemy you've faced at this point (unless you encountered warmech). Unfortunately for him, he is weak against bane, so you can literally kill him with an item.
VS.
MudGol - You first run into him in the Castle of ordeals. This guy has very little defense, but he packs quite a punch with his physical attack. In addition, he can poison your characters, and he looks really funny. He goes down very fast, but he can take down your HP quite a bit.
AND
Badman - You first encounter this man (and a very bad one at that) in the Mirage Tower. He gives you quite a bit of experience and money, so he is rather good for levelling up. He is fairly difficult to kill, but he isn't particularly strong.
VS.
Catman - This guy can be found in the land just outside the Castle of Ordeals. Although he isn't very powerful, he can poison your characters. He looks rather funny, but other than that he doesn't give you very much at all. The drawing is probably his most notable feature, as he looks much scarier than he really is.
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!"
hb smokey
04-29-2005, 02:35 AM
Ok!
Finally glad to see this thing getting underway, as I was worried we would never see it start. With that said, I'd like to kick it off and be the first one to vote. :)
I always like a challenge when killing my enemies, so I'll vote first for <B>Badman</B>.
Although I hate when you can kill a boss or enemy with an item, I'm still going for <B>Tiamat</B>.
Agent0042
04-29-2005, 03:35 AM
I'll be contrary and take MudGol because like Smokey said --- item-kill weakness is lame. However, I will also take BadMan.
CRUNCH BAR
04-29-2005, 06:07 AM
Tiamat and Badman
OmegaWeapon
04-30-2005, 01:39 AM
Tiamat and Badman
Aerith Gainsborough
05-01-2005, 09:44 PM
Tiamat and Badman
FF1WithAllThieves
05-02-2005, 03:23 AM
Voting for the very first battle is finished! Let's see how the first set of monsters fared.
Tiamat - 4
Mudgol - 1
AND
Badman - 5
Catman - 0
About how I expected it to go. I'm sad to see mudgol gone so soon, but it really didn't have much of a chance against a fiend. No surprise in the second battle at all.
With that, I'll begin the next battle.
Sorceror - Quite possibly the most irritating of all monsters, this guy first appears in the infamous Ice Cave. Instructions to anyone who encounters sorcerors: run. They go down fairly fast, but at a terrible risk. A sorceror's physical attack has a rather high probability of killing one of your characters in one hit. A mere physical attack brings instant death. I'll be interested to see if people vote for this one because he's powerful, or vote against him because of all of the pain and suffering he's caused (to my party of all thieves especially; it was #@#$! hard to get down into the ice cave in the first place).
VS.
IronGol - Most powerful of all of the Gols. He has improved armor and even stronger physical attack than the mudgols. You very seldomly see one, but he will sometimes appear in the final dungeon. He gives you extremely good rewards for defeating him, and he has one of the funnier names in the game.
AND
Scum - This rebel scum is found in the Marsh Cave. Scum gives you fairly decent rewards, but physical attacks do very little damage to it. If you happen to have a black mage in your party, however, Fir2 will make very short work of scum. It can poison you, but its physical attack does as little to you as yours does to it.
VS.
Giant - Found in frightening numbers in a certain hallway of the Earth Cave, Giants are extremely good for levelling up. They give an insanely high amount of gold and a pretty good amount of exp. When you first encounter them, they are fairly difficult to defeat, but once you fight enough of them, you get to be quite strong and rich. (I can't even tell you how many giants my thieves had to fight)
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!"
hb smokey
05-02-2005, 03:40 AM
<B>Sorcerer</B>. While it is easy for them to kill your party members in one hit, I'm usually all for deadly enemies.
<B>Giant</B>, I just liked it more.
Agent0042
05-02-2005, 03:48 AM
I'll go with IronGol because I love tough monsters that give satisfying rewards and I'll also go with Giant, although that one was a bit harder.
UltimateFFFan
05-02-2005, 08:08 AM
Sorcerer because I can beat it....... (alright, I beat it once, by accident) and Giant
OmegaWeapon
05-03-2005, 05:12 AM
Sorceror and Giant
CRUNCH BAR
05-04-2005, 05:35 AM
Sorcerer and Giant
FF1WithAllThieves
05-06-2005, 12:21 AM
Sorry about the late update. My internet wasn't quite working. Here are the results for the battle:
Sorceror - 4
IronGol - 1
AND
Giant - 5
Scum - 0
Two more heavily one-sided victories. I'm not particularly surprised by this outcome, but I am sad to see the IronGol go. Will this crush the Gols' hope for reaching round 2?
Here's the next battle for you:
Warmech - The most difficult enemy of the entire game. This thing's physical attack is through the roof, and he has an attack called "nuclear" which does a crapload of damage to all characters. If you somehow manage to defeat one, you get an insanely high amount of exp, but it's really not worth the effort, as being able to defeat it means you can easily beat the last boss. You can only fight Warmech if you are "lucky" enough to encounter him on the path to Tiamat in the Sky Castle.
Vs.
FrGiant - You first encounter them in the Ice Cave. They are basically just an upgrade of giants, and they're frosty. They give rather nice rewards, and they're a welcome relief from the more nasty enemies you find there. Just a side piece of information: Frost Giants are the first obvious referrence to Norse mythology in an FF game.
AND
Kraken - Kraken is the Fiend of Water, and he is quite a strong one. He is notorious for knocking out the one character with low defence, and it's really bad to let someone miss out on the experience you get. You encounter him as you finally reach the end of the Ocean Palace. His one weak point, however, is that he uses INK, which causes darkness and nothing more.
Vs.
Vampire - He says a rather cool line when you first talk to him, but then you just cast fir3 on him and he dies. The vampire fight is a total joke. He gives you really awesome rewards, and his attacks look scary, but look, my party of 4 thieves beat him on their first try. To make it even better, he's not even really a boss. You first fight him in the Earth Cave to get the Ruby, but you can find many of them in the Mirage Tower. They're good for levelling up later in the game, but the Vampire was probably meant to be a bit cooler than that.
Once again, as Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!"
Agent0042
05-06-2005, 02:35 AM
I guess I'll just go this time with what everybody's probably gonna go with WarMech and Kraken.
hb smokey
05-06-2005, 03:39 AM
I guess I'll just go this time with what everybody's probably gonna go with WarMech and Kraken.
CRUNCH BAR
05-06-2005, 06:05 AM
Oh shit! Warmech definitely and Kraken too!
FF1WithAllThieves
05-08-2005, 03:38 AM
OK, too much time has elapsed for any more votes. Let's see if this was as much of a blowout as I thought it would be...
Warmech - 3
FrGiant - 0
AND
Kraken - 3
Vampire - 0
Yes, I believe it was. I'm not a bit surprised by this one. Ok, on to the next battle:
Iguana - You first encounter these in the Earth Cave, mostly in the Hall of Giants. You'll find these to be the weaker of the two kinds of enemies you find here, and they don't give you very much. Also, they really don't have any special attacks. The coolest thing really about these guys is that they look really weird, which is always a bonus for me.
Vs.
Arachnid - These apear in large numbers in the area surrounding Elfland. They give you a fairly decent amount of gold and EXP, but they can poison you, which causes severe irritation. Their attack is fairly weak, and they have no special abilities, but their poison brings anger.
AND
Red D - You find these guarding valuble chests in the Gurgu Volcano. Their Fir2 attack is very lethal, especially if you have an under-levelled party. In terms of physical attacks, they aren't much to worry about, but Fir2 really bites into your HP. They give a pretty good amount of gold and EXP, but the real reward is in the chests you get for passing them. My party of thieves became ninjas before daring the fight with them.
Vs.
Scorpion - These deadly foes appear in the lower levels of the Marsh Cave. They actually have a quite strong physical attack, and they can poison your characters with it. They give pretty good gold and EXP, but it's really not worth the risk, as you can simply fight better enemies if you can take them. Scorpions were a very major threat to my party of thieves.
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!"
hb smokey
05-08-2005, 03:42 AM
I'm going with the <B>Arachnid</B> and <B>Red D</B>.
Agent0042
05-10-2005, 01:39 AM
Hmm, no reason not to follow --- Arachnid and Red D.
CRUNCH BAR
05-10-2005, 08:48 AM
Me too, Arachnid and Red D.
I'm going with the <B>Arachnid</B> and <B>Red D</B>.
FF1WithAllThieves
05-11-2005, 02:38 AM
Might this have been the first close battle in the rumble?
Arachnid - 4
Iguana - 0
AND
Red D - 4
Scorpion - 0
No, I guess not. This time it was another total blowout. Will the coming rounds be more evenly matched? Perhaps this battle will prove to be different:
Geist - These lovely little undead guys are very interesting. If you have a white mage in your party, you can just Harm them to death and receive pretty good amounts of gold. If, however, you have a party of all thieves, you can experience the wonderful misfortune of a "monsters strike first" battle against nine of them, and you get to watch your party of thieves die slowly as they kneel uselessly in paralysis (this happened at the lower level of the Earth Cave). Geists actually first appear on the land east of Pravoka, if you choose to venture there. They can be somewhat irritating at times, but with a balanced party you don't have much to worry about, and they give a great deal of gold for that time in the game.
Vs.
RockGol - This is the second most powerful Gol. Just like the others he has a strong physical attack but minimal defense. Also like the others he gives you a rather nice quantity of gold along with a good amount of experience. You mostly find them in the final dungeon, where they pose less of a threat than other enemies (i.e. Gas Ds). RockGols are best known for their name, which is short for Rock Golem.
AND
Caribe - I wondered what the Hell this was when I first saw it. My guess is that they are mutated anchovies or sardines or something like that. Caribes are very small fish that attack in large numbers. They aren't very powerful, and they also give you almost nothing. I guess square just needed something new to put in rivers, so they added these little Caribes to fill up screen space. I have no idea how to pronounce it.
Vs.
Sahag - The most generic of all sea-monsters. Sahags appear again and again as sea enemies in the SNES Final Fantasies. They don't really give you much gold and EXP, but you can't help but wonder, where did that name come from? Is it short for "sand hag"? Perhaps we'll never know, but these guys dominate the ocean in not just FFI. Of course, they're really easy to kill, but they're better than imps.
Will the last of the Gols survive? Which really weak sea creature will advcance? Will people possibly prefer paralysis? Did that alliteration really suck? We'll find out soon enough....
Brian Glynn: "FIGHT!!!!!"
(at the end of this rumble, I will explain the Brian Glynn thing if you don't already know)
hb smokey
05-11-2005, 02:56 AM
<B>Geist</B> and <B>Sahag</B>.
Agent0042
05-11-2005, 04:13 AM
You're way behind, jiro. I'm going for RockGol, but I'll follow on Sahag.
rev0lver0cel0t
05-14-2005, 03:51 AM
geist and Sahag
FF1WithAllThieves
05-15-2005, 03:45 AM
I waited as long as I could, but no one else voted =(. So, let's take a look at the results:
Geist - 2
RockGol - 1
AND
Sahag - 3
Caribe - 0
Well, I'm afraid the Gols are out of it now. My brother even wrote a song about them, too. Oh well, I suppose that's enough recognition for them. I'm not really surprised about the wimpy seamonster battle's outcome, because Caribes just sucked.
OK, let's take a look at the next battle:
WzSahag - When I saw that this creature existed, I very nearly died laughing. I thought I had seen the last of them with the R. Sahags, but no, there are these yellow guys that cast random ineffective spells. They were some of the strange enemies you encounter in Kraken's little ocean palace. They really don't give you much, and they're not very powerful, but man are they funny.
Vs.
Mage - This guy has evoked more cuss words than just about any other monster in a video game. It isn't too fun when you go through the Ice Cave and this guy hits you with a Rub. Other than that, he's not much of a threat, but he really doesn't give you enough considering the risk of Rub. The Mages are very deadly enemies unless you have prorings or ribbons. These guys had the very rare distinction of making me glad I was using all thieves.
AND
Wz. Vamp - If the Vampire was not ruined enough as a boss, they put in these guys. Wz. Vamps are an upgrade over the already-spellcasting Vampires. They do give you nice rewards despite their easiness, and they're not really much more powerful than regular ones. Wz. Vamps first made their not-quite-so-grand entrance in groups with regular Vampires in the Sky Castle. Another not-so-powerful but funny monster in the running here.
Vs.
WzOgre - To me, this is the most hilarious of the monsters. I thought for the longest time that it stopped at GrOgres. I was wrong. At the bottom of the Earth Cave, I found there to be these blue Ogres that could use magic. There was one thing about this magic: it almost never did them any good. They only use a spell called Ruse. Now Ruse increases evasion, but the translators worded it badly. So, the caption at the bottom would simply say that the WzOgre had become "easy to dodge," suggesting that his hit% had decreased. This wasn't the case, but it was still really funny. The WzOgre had become easy to dodge. I mean, Wizard Ogre? That's an oxymoron. WzOgres gave a decent amount of gold considering how easy they were, but I would often times waste turns just so they could cast Ruse on themselves. This is my personal favorite of all FFI monsters.
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!!"
hb smokey
05-15-2005, 04:22 AM
<B>Mage</B> and <B>WzOgre</B>.
Agent0042
05-15-2005, 05:06 AM
Same, I gues.s Mage and WzOgre.
It's fun reading your explanations, FF1WithAllThieves.
rev0lver0cel0t
05-20-2005, 06:20 PM
Mage and WzOgre...i wish the cat box smell was "easy to dodge"
FF1WithAllThieves
05-21-2005, 02:50 AM
Sorry about the late update, but I usually like to get at least three votes for each battle. Let's see how this one turned out:
WzOgre - 3
Wz. Vamp - 0
AND
Mage - 3
WzSahag - 0
Glad the WzOgre showed dominance this round. Of course, Wz. Vamps are totally useless, so this isn't much of a means of ranking the WzOgres. I'm not really surprised Mage won out over the even more useless WzSahags, but I thought they might have gotten some humour/weirdness votes. Ah well, let's take a look at the next fight:
Earth - Only found guarding treasures in the Earth Cave and on the Earth floor of the Final Dungeon, this interesting enemy only uses physical attacks. These guys are quite powerful considering when in the game they appear, but they usually come in groups of 2 or less. When you fight them late in the game, they're a complete joke, but early on they're pretty good for getting experience.
Vs.
Gas D - This is one of the deadliest enemies in the Final Dungeon. Gas Ds use an attack called "poison gas" which, although it doesn't cause poison for some reason, is extremely powerful. Running into a group of Gas Ds has been the death of several well-balanced parties that were actually at a high enough level to beat Chaos himself. The most important thing to know about Gas Ds is that you can't run from them. If you waste one turn trying to run, it could easily be the end of you. Gas Ds give minimal rewards given their potence.
AND
FrWolf - And you thought you'd seen the last of the wolves. Well, you were wrong. FrWolves are the fourth and most powerful kind of wolves, and they're actually not a complete waste of time to fight. This could very well be simply because they come in groups with FrGiants, but they aren't too much trouble to kill. They use an attack called "frost" (go figure) that is kind of irritating, but it isn't very powerful. Perhaps the most notable feature of this monster is the question, "what the hell is a frost wolf?" You can first find him in, guess where, the Ice Cave.
Vs.
Kary - The famous fiend of fire. Kary is, contrary to my first impression, female, or so I've been told. She has quite a strong physical attack, and she can cast Fir2, so she's definitely no pushover. Aside from that, you're probably going to be weary from the rest of the Gurgu Volcano when you reach her. Unlike Tiamat, Kary has no weakness to instant death, so you just have to take her down the normal way, and she has pretty darn good defense. If you've levelled up enough, Kary shouldn't be too much trouble, but when in FF isn't that the case?
I really can't tell which way the first battle will go, although I have a pretty good idea of who will win the second.
Anyway, as Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!!!"
hb smokey
05-21-2005, 04:24 AM
<B>Gas D</B> and <B>Kary</B> please.
Agent0042
05-21-2005, 04:54 AM
Yeah, same here too again. Gas D and Kary.
rev0lver0cel0t
05-24-2005, 03:40 PM
GasD and Kary
FF1WithAllThieves
05-29-2005, 04:25 AM
Sorry about the late update. I've been kind of busy this week, and I spent five hours today recording with a progressive rock group. Anyway, let's look at the scores:
Gas D - 4
Earth - 0
AND
Kary - 3
FrWolf - 1
Well, well, it looks like the Gas D prevailed over the elemental monster. No surprises in the Kary battle; I knew the fiend would win.
Ok, let's take a look at the next contestants:
Sentry - This guy doesn't appear until rather late in the game, when you enter the waterfall to find the cube, which is required to access the Sky Castle from the Mirage Tower.. He is one of the robotic enemies from the past, when humans were more advanced technologically. The idea of fighting an enemy that is in any way similar to Warmech is pretty scary, but Sentries aren't actually that hard. They give you fairly decent rewards, but they are by no means a good enemy for levelling up, as you can fight much better enemies elsewhere.
Vs.
Phantom - This thing is nothing more or less than a huge pain in the ass. He's equipped with nearly every single instant death attack you can imagine, he can attack for pretty high amounts of damage, and, perhaps his most annoying feature, he gives you nothing. 1 Exp, 0 Gold. If your trek through the Final Dungeon wasn't already difficult enough, here's a boss that exists for no purpose other than to annoy you. You just randomly walk across this guy when you're making your way down to Chaos, so if you're not prepared, you might end up with one or two dead characters.
AND
Garland (cue a minor major 7th chord, or other such dramatic chord) - Here he is, folks. The most pathetic first and last boss in the history of Square Enix (then Squaresoft). I mean, the only way you can lose to him the first time is if you don't know how to equip weapons. Not only that, but he just looks so funny. 1000 years earlier, however, he is not quite as pathetic (almost, though). Whose idea was it to give the last boss 2000 HP? It was much, much harder to get to him than it was to fight him. That being said, he is the second most powerful enemy in the game, but enemies don't defeat you singlehandedly in FFI. If you die on Chaos, it's not because he owned you by himself; it's because you were worn down by all the enemies ahead of him that you couldn't recover after fighting. I was a bit disappointed by this last boss, but I have to admit that he looks really cool (the second time).
Vs.
Imp - Wouldn't you know, it turned out like this. Garland himself versus Imp. Imps are widely known as by far the weakest and most worthless of all enemies. I don't know if any game has a monster that has less than 10 hp. Apart from that, they give you next to nothing in EXP and Gold. I often ran away from imps because they weren't worth the time to fight. Imps are possible to fight from the very beginning of the game, even on the spot where you start on the world map itself.
Jesus said that blessed are the meek, but will the votes agree? Could the Imps possible defeat Garland? And will the Phantom win the crowd over or irritate the votes away? We shall soon see.
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!!"
hb smokey
05-29-2005, 08:05 PM
<B>Phantom</B> and <B>Garland</B>.
Agent0042
05-29-2005, 11:36 PM
I don't generally like enemies that use cheap instant death attacks. Sentry and Garland
CRUNCH BAR
05-30-2005, 04:20 AM
Sentry and Garland.
rev0lver0cel0t
05-30-2005, 04:59 AM
Phantom and Garland...also, Dragon Warrior's "slime" has 1 hp and "red slime" has 2hp.
FF1WithAllThieves
06-03-2005, 03:00 AM
HOLY CRAP!!!! A TIE!!!! That's a first in this rumble! It took me a while to decide how to break it, but I think I've got a good one. I'll just cast my Rumblemaster vote to break the tie.
And so, I vote for... SENTRY!
I just can't bring myself to vote for the pain and suffering that damned Phantom brought me. So, I'll vote for the sentry.
So that brings the final score to...
Sentry - 3
Phantom - 2
AND
Garland - 4
Imp - 0
Well, I guess people just preferred not to vote for the most worthless monster in the game. After that close call, let's move on to the next round:
Lobster - I can't help but wonder something: WHY DOES THE LOBSTER LOOK EXACTLY LIKE A SCORPION?! OK, I had to get that out. These are completely worthless. They give you a pretty measly amount of Gold and EXP, and they aren't really powerful, either. Of course, they attack you in massive quantities, but a Lit2 or the Zeus gauntlets make rather short work of them. They can only be found in the Ocean Palace, where the boss is far harder than the monsters within his lair.
Vs.
Hydra - This is one of the new enemies that comes when you first get the canoe. So, logically, it appears in rivers. The interesting thing about hydras is that although they look scary and can poison you, they're really not very hard at all, and they don't really give you very much either. I usually ran away from them because they weren't worth fighting, but I WAS playing with all Thieves, which of course makes it much, much easier to run away (not to mention harder to fight). They basically serve no purpose other than to fill the rivers with monsters.
AND
Creep - Not to be confused with your building space in Starcraft, you can first fight this guy in Garland's castle. At that point he's very strong and formidable, and he's actually quite rewarding to fight. However, Creeps are most common in the area surrounding Elfland, where they come in groups of three along with Ogres. Creeps are fairly easy to take out with magic, but their attacks rival the strength of Orges'. Creeps lose their opulence once the Ogres appear, but they're still pretty good for levelling up.
Vs.
Wraith - One of the many forms of undead enemies that look exactly like Shadows, Wraiths can be found in just about any dungeon. They're fairly unrewarding to fight, but if you fight them and bulk and just Harm the crap out of them, you can get a pretty substantial amount of EXP. Wraiths occur as part of the massive group of undead monsters that attacks you in the Ice Cave.
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!!!"
edit: Yeah, I forgot to post a fourth one.
hb smokey
06-03-2005, 06:25 PM
<B>Hydra</B> and <B>Creep</B>.
Agent0042
06-04-2005, 03:36 AM
I think I'll go with Lobster and Creep.
Ilsoap
06-07-2005, 04:28 AM
Hydra and Creep.
rev0lver0cel0t
06-08-2005, 05:03 AM
lobster and creep
FF1WithAllThieves
06-09-2005, 11:11 PM
Sorry about the late update, but I knew Mr. Ocelot hadn't voted yet and I didn't want to have to break the tie myself. So, he did it for me! Let's see how it turned out:
Lobster - 3
Hydra - 2
AND
Creep - 5
Wraith - 0
A total blowout for the Creep. Well, considering what kind of competition he had, it wasn't really a surprise. The Lobster just eeked out that victory over the freshwater monster.
Well, let's take a look at the next bout:
Wizard - You have to fight these guys to get the Crown, which of course serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever in the game. Seriously, why does Astos reveal himself BEFORE you give him the crown? Anyway, Wizards, for some strange reason, only use physical attacks. Now, I guess you could say they're powered by magic or something, but why would Wizards just use physical attacks? No magic? Nope, just physical attacks. They're pretty strong, but not really a big threat (to a normal party at least), and they give a fair amount of Gold and EXP. You fight these guys first in the Marsh Cave.
Vs.
Cocktrice - It's quite possible to go through an entire game and never find out what these things can do. Apparently they revised the English spelling to "Cockatrice" in later FF games. In all cases, they can cause the "stone" status effect. However, it's not very often that this effect occurs. You can't encounter them until you go below the Vampire's level in the Earth Cave. I always just ran from them, because they don't give you very much, and it's not worth buying softs (especially when you spend 15 minutes just buying heals) in the event that you get stoned.
AND
Mancat - The plural of this monster is Mencat, just so you know. Mencat are evolutions of Catmen, and they're a bit stronger. They can poison you, but they really aren't much of a threat. Mencat appear on the world map on the Northern Continent, and they travel in abundance. Mencat, like Catmen, are most notable for their strange appearence. They are simply green versions of the yellow Catmen.
Vs.
Madpony - This thing is one of the toughest monsters to accept as an FF enemy. A pony that's gone mad? I can't really see this thing from the first world map area getting any votes, so I'll just tel you that Madponies are almost a complete waste of time.
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!!"
hb smokey
06-09-2005, 11:22 PM
<B>Wizard</B> and <B>Mancat</B>.
Agent0042
06-10-2005, 02:33 AM
Yeah, all right, same. Wizard and Mancat.
BTW, you missed Warmech out of that list.
taytyn
06-10-2005, 06:33 PM
wizard and man cat
FF1WithAllThieves
06-14-2005, 03:24 AM
Gast - please don't post comments that don't include a vote. As for Warmech, he's already competed, so there's no way I could have omitted him. =) With that said, let's look at the results.
Wizard - 4
Cocktrice - 0
AND
Mancat - 3
Madpony - 1
This isn't a particularly surprising result. Maybe the battles will get more interesting after the first round, when we've eliminated most of the really pointless monsters. Anyway, let's take a look at the next batch of monsters:
Wolf - Like real wolves, these travel in packs. There is no enemy that attacks in greater numbers than the wolf. That being said, they're very weak. Also, they're not worth fighting for the EXP. Of course, they were a threat to my party of all Thieves, but so was Astos, so that's not much of a power indicator. Wolves are proof that quantity over quality doesn't work.
Vs.
Eye - By the time you reach this guy, you're bound to be completely fed up with the Ice Cave. You fight this thing just before you reach the hole which causes you to fall down to where you can finally obtain the infamous Floater. Once you beat the Eye, you're through with the most irritating of all the dungeons (except perhaps the last one). Now, there's a very strange thing about the Eye. Everyone I've heard from said that it nearly always managed to one-hit-kill at least one character. Now, I have fought the Eye many more times than any of them have, and not a single one of its one-hit-kills has ever worked on me. I don't know if I have a defective cartrige or something, but the Eye has never even done any damage to me. Now, the Eye gives you great rewards for defeating it, and in my game of all Thieves, I came back and levelled them up here. Soon, I had maxed out at 999999 gold and they were at level 35, which actually made them able to make it through the Final Dungeon (they were Ninjas by now; I'm not THAT crazy). At least on my cartrige, the Eye is the best monster to level up against in the entire game. Feel free to post comments on your experiences with the Eye, and perhaps I'll find out why I've had no trouble defeating it.
AND
Fire - Found most commonly guarding treasure chests in the Gurgu Volcano, this elemental monster is actually weaker than Earth. That was kind of strange to me, but I soon found that fighting Fire was an effective way of levelling up, especially because you could step on the Fire batlle-triggering space over and over again and not have to wait in-between battles. Anyway, Fire is a fairly strong enemy that specializes in physical attacks, and it gives you quite a sum of EXP and gold. Of course, you can fight it again in the final dungeon, but by then it's a complete joke of an enemy.
Vs.
WrWolf - I always made it a policy of mine never to fight these. They come in groups with GrImps, meaning that they exist only to poison you and not to kill you. Nothing is more irritating then a "monsters strike first" battle in which the WrWolf immediately poisons you. I mean, the battle can accomplish nothing but poisoning one of your characters. Pures were always a burden to buy in item shops, and these things made you waste them. WrWolves are nothing but irritating in FFI, especially because they don't even give you anything. They first start appearing around Pravoka.
Will the two Wolves go down at once? Will the Eye mystery be revealed? Is this sounding like a 70s soap-opera? We'll find out!
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!!!!!!"
hb smokey
06-14-2005, 05:01 AM
<B>Wolf</B> and <B>Fire</B>
Agent0042
06-15-2005, 12:15 AM
Wolf and Fire --- I don't remember any of my experiences with the Eye, so I'm afraid I can't help there. If it is a glitch, it sounds like a fun one.
CRUNCH BAR
06-15-2005, 01:56 AM
Wolf and Fire
rev0lver0cel0t
06-19-2005, 01:20 AM
eye and wrwolf
FF1WithAllThieves
06-19-2005, 03:44 AM
Wellety wellety wellety, if it isn't another tie. And I guess that means I get to break it. So.....
I vote Eye!!!!!!!!!
So that brings the result to...
Eye - 4
Wolf - 3
AND
Fire - 4
WrWolf - 1
Well, I was surprised to get that last vote for the WrWolf at the end. Verrry close battle there with the Eye and the Wolf. With that, let's look at the next matchups:
Ocho - No, it's not Spanish for eight. This is obviously a mistranslation of Ochu, which appears in many other video games. This is perhaps the most powerful of the first group of enemies you can face in the river once you obtain the canoe. It can poison you, which is much less of a threat than the status effects that later Ochus can give you, but it's still quite irritating. They aren't particularly powerful, and they don't give you too much, but they're the best enemies you find in rivers at first.
Vs.
Wind - Don't ask me why, but Wind looks Exactly like Water. I don't think I should have to tell you where you can find this monster. Really, Wind isn't any more difficult than the other enemies you have to fight in that area, particularly Warmech. It's still a decently formidable foe, especially because it attacks in large numbers, but there are tougher and more lucrative enemies where you can find it.
AND
Agama - For some strange reason, they made a fire variation of Iguanas and called them Agamas. They use a very weak attack called Scorch, and they also use pretty weak physical attacks. Although they can be most commonly found in the Gurgu Volcano, they're also in the Fire floor of the Final Dungeon. I used them as a chance to use the Heal Staff and Heal Helmet to bring my Thieves back to full health (I was trying to save my Heals). They don't really give you very much EXP. and Gold, either.
Vs.
Muck - This is the counterpart to Scum. It looks the same, only it's black instead of yellow. The other difference is that while Muck has much lower defense, it has a stronger physical attack. Muck, like Scum, can be found in the Marsh Cave. It gives decent rewards for defeating it, but it's not enough of a reason to linger in the Marsh Cave (nor is anything else, for that matter).
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!"
hb smokey
06-19-2005, 04:48 AM
<B>Ocho</B> and <B>Muck</B>.
Agent0042
06-20-2005, 12:56 AM
Ocho here also, but I think I'm gonna go with Agama for the other.
dreamplayer
06-21-2005, 09:01 AM
Ocho and Muck. (looking up from a box)=���
taytyn
06-21-2005, 04:42 PM
ocho and muck
FF1WithAllThieves
06-28-2005, 10:46 PM
Sorry about the late update; I've been out of town. Here are the results:
Ocho - 5
Wind - 0
AND
Muck - 4
Agama - 1
I would have thought that Wind would get at least one vote, but people like the mistranslation better. With that, let's look at the next matchups:
Water - You find a lot of this leading up to Kraken in the Mermaids' Castle. It's not too strong, but it's the strongest monster you can encounter down there. It's shaped like a waterspout, just like Wind. The rewards for defeating Water are fair, and they come in large groups, but there are better places to level up.
Vs.
Nitemare - This discolored version of the Madpony is very strange. You first encounter him in the Castle of Ordeals. He uses a bizarre attack called "Snort" which paralyzes one character (only if it works, which it usually doesn't). Obviously, Square decided to make "Snort" a bit nastier when Yans use it in FFIX. Anyway, Nitemares are almost not worth fighting at all because they're so weak, but their name contains a pun.
AND
Frost D - One of the most nonsensical enemies in FFI. A Frost Dragon? I thought Dragons breathed fire... Anyway, like most Frost monsters, these guys appear first in the Ice Cave. They're quite powerful, using both strong physical attacks and Ice-Elemental magic attacks. However, they're no stronger than the Red Ds, and they come later in the game. Frost Ds usually have good rewards mainly because they're guarding treasure chests.
Vs.
Evilman - An upgrade from the badman, this guy is both strong and lucrative. Just as the Badman was good for levelling up, so is Evilman once you get into the Sky Castle. He's vulnerable to Bane attacks, so use of the Bane sword can be quite effective against Evilmen.
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!!"
hb smokey
06-29-2005, 12:29 AM
<B>Nitemare</B> and <B>Evilman</B>.
rev0lver0cel0t
06-29-2005, 03:01 AM
nitemare and evilman
Agent0042
06-29-2005, 03:29 AM
One of the most nonsensical enemies in FFI. A Frost Dragon? I thought Dragons breathed fire...
Not necessarily --- ever read E. Nebsit's The Book of Dragons?
Anyway, I'll throw myself in for Nitemare and Evilman also.
<B>Nitemare</B> and <B>Evilman</B>.
FF1WithAllThieves
07-16-2005, 12:39 AM
Well, I'm finally back! I've been out of town and all over the place for the past two weeks, but I'm finally home (for four days). With that, I'll finally tally up the results:
Nitemare - 4
Water - 0
AND
Evilman - 4
Frost D - 0
Well, I'm a bit surprised that Frost D didn't even get one vote, but this turned out to be a total blowout in both cases anyway. I hope all of this rumble's viewers haven't left, because here's the next lineup:
NaOcho - I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but this name is extremely close to "nacho." It's exactly the same as the Ocho, but it's red and more powerful. The only thing to ponder is where they got the prefix "na." Is it a Sodium Ocho or something like that? Nachos with salt, maybe? River monsters just don't make very much sense, especially because these appear at an arbitrary moment in all of the rivers: once you get far enough into the plot.
Vs.
R. Goyle - Why they decided to omit the "gar" in "gargoyle" is still a mystery to me. If you pronounce the first initial, it sounds like "gargoyle" without the g. I've always just called them Red Goyles. Anyway, these are just fire elemental Gargoyles, so they have some magic and they give you a bit more money and EXP. You can find them in the Gurgu Volcano.
AND
R. Giant - It's the Jolly Red Giant! He's no Surt, though, so he won't be burning the world at Ragnarok. He's basically a more powerful version of a giant, that might use a fire spell every now and then. But what kind of Giant is a good magician? That would make about as much sense as WzOgres. They give you pretty good stuff for enemies in the Gurgu Volcano.
Vs.
Zombie D - You'd never know by the name, but this is an undead enemy! Quite a dead giveaway to use harm, and this is a BOSS that guards the rats tail, perhaps the most valuble item to obtain in the game, because you can get class change. Of course, if you're all black belts, class change is completely pointless, but who uses all black belts? Anyway, Zombie Ds have some power, but they just die too easily to be much of a threat at all. They give quite a good amount of Gold and EXP, though.
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!!"
Agent0042
07-18-2005, 12:52 AM
Well, I subscribe to threads that I respond to, so I'll be around as long as we keep going.
Anyway, I'll have R. Goyle and R. Giant and make it a Gargu volcano double-feature.
FF1WithAllThieves
07-24-2005, 02:21 AM
Well, it would appear that most of my thread's followers have assumed it died. Thus, I am forced to let Agent be the ONLY voter. So here are the results:
R. Goyle - 1
NaOcho - 0
AND
R. Giant - 1
Zombie D. - 0
100% for both! What a shocking result! Hopefully, someone else will vote next time. Anyway, I'll go ahead and see if you guys are still alive out there:
Ghost - One of the most powerful of the undead enemies. It is a white version of Wraiths and Specters. You find it in the Ocean Palace, where it is probably the strongest enemy. He has a strong physical attack, and unless your party is strong, he isn't too easy to kill. Rewards for defeating it aren't what I'd call good enough, but they aren't too bad.
Vs.
Gargoyle - These guys contribute a status effect to the multitude found in the marsh cave: paralysis. It's bad enough to get it fron Geists, but these gargoyles are just annoying. Really, they aren't very powerful, and they don't give much Gold or EXP. I always ran away, even with my good parties.
AND
Shark - One of the sea enemies encountered early in the game, the Shark is a somewhat formidable foe at first. Sharks were actually the way I levelled up my Thieves until they were strong enough to fight Ogres. I know they don't give you too much, and it doesn't really make any sense that you're fighting sharks that attack you in your ship with swords, but since when did RPGs make sense?
Vs.
Ogre - The classic monster of Elfland. He has one purpose: levelling up. Everybody who's bought silver swords knows all about Ogres. They give you the best amounts of Gold and EXP. Out of all the monsters you can fight at that time in the game. Without Ogres, levelling up would never be the same.
I would like to make the simple request that people vote. If I don't get votes this time, I shall be forced to resort to PMing.
As Brian Glynn would say, "FIGHT!!!!!!!!"
Agent0042
07-24-2005, 03:47 AM
Oh, the power! :D Okay, all right, getting serious here, let's see about a vote. Let's do... Ghost and Ogre
Im gonna be completly opposite and say
Gargoyle and Shark
Im gonna be completly opposite and say
Gargoyle and Shark
Venom
07-24-2005, 10:21 PM
Ghost And Ogre
Dark_soilder
07-30-2005, 08:18 AM
Ghost And Ogre
CRUNCH BAR
07-30-2005, 08:46 AM
Ghost and Shark.
FF1WithAllThieves
08-02-2005, 04:44 PM
Sorry about the delay, I was having trouble fixing a little glitch in my brackets. But everything's OK now, so let's look at the results:
Ghost - 4
Gargoyle - 2
AND
Ogre - 3
Shark - 3
Well, if it isn't a tie. Time to abuse my power... I choose OGRE! So that makes:
Ogre - 4
Shark - 3
Definitely a close matchup in both cases. And now we move into the final fight of the first round! It may have taken 3 months, but it was worth it!
Fighter - This guy looks very similar to Mage, who is much, much deadlier. Fighter is a breeze to defeat, considering it appears in the Ice Cave. He also gives you a nice amount of EXP. and Gold. He is one of the many clones of Astos. (they're the same shape)
Vs.
Tiger - You can fight these in Titan's tunnel, as well as the Earth cave. They're not really much of a threat, and they don't give you very much, but they look kind of cool.
AND
Bone - OH NO! IT'S A BONE!!!! HEEELLLLPPPP!!!! I don't know why these things exist. They have HP that's easily into the single digits, and there's no noticeable difference in your party after having fought them.
Vs.
Lich - The first Fiend you fight. Lich is fairly easy if you just take him down quickly. Though you can't heal faster than he can damage you, you can usually kill him before any of your characters die. He's kind of intimidating, though, as he is the first enemy you fight where you don't have to select a target with the "Fight" command.
Speaking of "Fight," can you guess what Brian Glynn would say? "FIGHT!!!"
Agent0042
08-02-2005, 09:15 PM
Tiger and Lich, although I suspect everybody else will go the other way on the first one.
CRUNCH BAR
08-03-2005, 10:11 PM
Tiger and Lich, only because the Tiger is Korea's national animal.
Valvidesa
08-03-2005, 11:56 PM
fighter and Lich
FF1WithAllThieves
08-09-2005, 11:53 PM
Well, I can't wait any longer, so I'll just have to stick with 3. Let's look at the results of the final match of round one:
Tiger - 2
Fighter - 1
AND
Lich - 3
Bone - 0
Well, it looks like Agent's "unpopular" choice turned out to be the victor! I believe that's the first time that's happened. So now, let's take a look at who's still in the game. We're going to one battle at a time now, and I don't have to post descriptions anymore, so this should be a lot easier from here on.
Ogre
Ghost
Badman
Tiamat
Sorceror
Giant
Warmech
Kraken
Red D
Arachnid
Sahag
Geist
Mage
WzOgre
Kary
Gas D
Garland
Sentry
Lobster
Creep
Mancat
Wizard
Eye
Fire
Muck
Ocho
Evilman
Nitemare
R. Giant
R. Goyle
Tiger
Lich
Bracketing will still be randomized, since this is very much like a first round. Of course, if I get an appalling matchup (i.e. Garland Vs. Warmech) I'll repick the contestants, but other than that I'll just keep it random. I'll start doing some bracketing stuff once we get into the later rounds.
And so, let's take a look at the first battle of round two!
Mage
Vs.
Sahag
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!!!" *HINT*
Agent0042
08-10-2005, 01:52 AM
And I don't have to post descriptions anymore
Ah, too bad. I always enjoyed your descriptions. Anyway, one vote for Mage.
Venom
08-10-2005, 02:49 AM
Mage
FF1WithAllThieves
08-15-2005, 03:32 AM
Well, let's look at the first results of round 2:
Mage - 3
Sahag - 0
Not a surprising result, though I would have liked to get more votes. Here's the next pair:
Sorceror
Vs.
Warmech
I'm getting a strange sense of impending doom for the Sorceror. But could there be an upset? Probably not.
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!!!"
Shadow_Lurker
08-15-2005, 11:19 PM
Warmech
Agent0042
08-16-2005, 02:43 AM
I'll suppose I'll add to the sense of impending doom by also putting in my vote for Warmech.
FF1WithAllThieves
08-30-2005, 10:12 PM
Sorry guys. You see, I had a computer virus and only just managed to get a free virus scanner and save my computer in time. So that's why I haven't updated in so long. Let's look at the results:
Warmech - 2
Sorceror - 1
Not as much of a blowout as I would have thought, but still a victory for the Warmech. Can any monster defeat it? We'll see...
Here's the next matchup:
Tiger
Vs.
WzOgre
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!!!!!!"
Agent0042
08-31-2005, 03:48 AM
Welcome back, FF1WithAllThieves --- glad you were able to dodge the bullet. I guess I'll go with Tiger.
Whoosp didn see a new one had started lol
Tiger please
Shadow_Lurker
09-08-2005, 04:54 PM
Well to be diffeerent i'd say WzOgre also for the reason because i trained my team about 15 levels mostly on them.wb btw
Moxious
09-08-2005, 11:50 PM
How bout that evil train that gaurds the ultima weapon?
FF1WithAllThieves
09-12-2005, 09:37 PM
How bout that evil train that gaurds the ultima weapon?
Read the discussion at the beginning. Nothing from DOS.
Moxious
09-19-2005, 02:51 AM
sorry im too lazy ill just leave now
FF1WithAllThieves
09-21-2005, 10:48 PM
OK, after Moxious just randomly entered this thread and then totally ignored what was going on and posted comments in my rumble, I have finally recovered from my appalledness. With that said, here are the results:
Tiger - 3
WzOgre - 1
*sniff* I'll always love you, WzOgre! I'll never forget you! *sniff*
Anyway...
Kary
Vs.
Giant
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!!"
Agent0042
09-22-2005, 12:47 AM
Erm, uh, Kary, I guess.
FF1WithAllThieves
10-23-2005, 07:03 PM
THAT DOES IT! I give you two weeks, and still no one but agent votes. I send private messages. I EVEN FORGET MY PASSWORK AND SPEND ANOTHER TWO WEEKS FIGURING OUT WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE THE SITE THAT HOSTED MY EMAIL ADDRESS DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE, and STILL you don't vote. Well, I'm going to make yet another attempt to keep this rumble alive, and let Agent's vote be the only one yet again. Please start voting!
Kary - 1
Giant - 0
Whoa! 100% for Kary! How could that have happened? Let's look at the next monsters WHICH I HOPE YOU WILL VOTE FOR.
Tiamat
Vs.
Eye
As Brian Glynn would finally say, "ROUND 2, FIGHT!!!!!!"
I have no idea what I'm voting for, but I'll say Eye just to give you another vote. ;)
Agent0042
10-23-2005, 09:59 PM
Well, I'm gonna have to vote for Tiamat, myself --- maybe you'll have to break a tie?
FF1WithAllThieves
10-26-2005, 09:39 PM
I'm going to try not to have to break a tie. Because I really really want to get more votes, I'm posting this just to move the thread to the top. Please vote!
taytyn
11-16-2005, 05:16 PM
Tiamat
Tidus 66
11-16-2005, 05:18 PM
Tiamat
FF1WithAllThieves
11-17-2005, 10:19 PM
*Handel's Messiah plays in background* HURRAY!!!!! PEOPLE VOTED!!!! Finally, I can tally up the score.
Tiamat - 3
Eye - 1
Not quite so unfortunately for Prak, who had no idea what he was voting for, Eye only got one vote. Of course, perviously, one vote was enough to win. But not this time! HURRAY! Tiamat wins, and here's the next round:
Badman
Vs.
Geist
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!!!"
Tidus 66
11-17-2005, 10:47 PM
Geist
Agent0042
11-17-2005, 11:35 PM
Geist here too.
KREAYSHAWN
11-29-2005, 02:26 PM
I am going to vote just because you keep going even when only one person participates in a round. And that kind of perseverance deserves rewarding!
Badman.
MossY
11-29-2005, 06:30 PM
For the same reasons cited by Duo and also because this is a monster rumble, which is pretty shit rumble basis but also pretty hilarious, I'm voting even though I have absolutely no idea what monsters I'm voting for other than their names. Using that as my voting criteria, I vote Badman because it's a silly name.
Tidus 66
11-29-2005, 06:31 PM
Badman
jreyland
11-29-2005, 06:51 PM
Geist
FF1WithAllThieves
11-30-2005, 03:43 AM
Thanks to all of you who pitched in and voted! It looks like my rumble is finally alive. Here are the results:
Geist - 3
Badman - 3
It's a tie, and you know what that means... I choose Badman!
Badman - 4
Geist - 3.
It took me a while to decide this one for myself. But, I think Badman deserved the victory. Anyway, here's the next matchup.
Ogre
Vs.
R. Giant
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!!!"
Agent0042
11-30-2005, 05:15 AM
It's amazing, all of a sudden this rumble is kinda popular. Erm, my vote --- R. Giant.
Swedish Fish
11-30-2005, 05:27 AM
Ogre
I'll vote for Ogre just because it's slightly easier to type!
Shadow_Lurker
11-30-2005, 04:14 PM
Ogre becuase 40% of all my running in the game was from that monster :p
Tidus 66
11-30-2005, 04:19 PM
Ogre
jreyland
11-30-2005, 07:01 PM
Ogre
FF1WithAllThieves
12-01-2005, 12:37 AM
I believe that's enough votes. Let's look at the results:
Ogre - 5
R. Giant - 1
Large margin of victory for Ogre, even if you don't count Prak's name length vote. It's so wonderful to get so many votes so fast! Here's the next matchup:
Evilman
Vs.
Fire
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!!!!"
Tidus 66
12-01-2005, 12:38 AM
Evilman
MossY
12-01-2005, 01:48 AM
Haha, first badman and now Evilman. What an entertaining rumble.
Evilman
So where's Nastyman and Villainman? haha
MossY
12-01-2005, 02:11 AM
Prakman badum-ch! Also, since I've fallen in love with this thread I browsed through the previous rounds and was appalled to learn that Scum had been eliminated in round 1! And not only that, it didn't receive a single vote. Thankfully Muck is still in contention.
Swedish Fish
12-01-2005, 04:16 AM
Evilman
Agent0042
12-01-2005, 06:29 AM
Evilman --- also, wow, we're really moving fast now.
FF1WithAllThieves
12-02-2005, 01:44 AM
Evilman
So where's Nastyman and Villainman? haha
Unfortunately, I don't think their translators were that advanced to come up with the words "nasty" and "villain." And I'm kind of sad that Scum lost, too, but that's mainly because of the Star Wars reference I made "You rebel scum!" I was most mortified at the loss of WzOgre, as I'm sure many of you noticed. I would have picked WzOgre until the end. At any rate, I don't think I need to see any more votes to know who wins. The result:
Evilman - 5
Fire - 0
It would seem like the mans are dominating. But can they stand up to the likes of Warmech? Probably not, but we shall see. Here's the next battle:
Creep
Vs.
Mancat.
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!!!"
Mancat
Continuing the trend!
Swedish Fish
12-02-2005, 02:42 AM
Creep
Agent0042
12-02-2005, 05:03 AM
Hrm, I'll continue the trend to with Mancat.
MossY
12-02-2005, 05:53 PM
I still think there should be a Prakman but I'll vote for Mancat until that day arrives.
FF1WithAllThieves
12-03-2005, 03:39 AM
I think I'll set the pace at 1 day of voting. I can't believe people are voting so quickly. The results:
Mancat - 3
Creep - 1
Not a complete blowout, but a very dominant victory for Mancat. With these new voters, perhaps the funny names will continue on... Here's the next matchup.
Kraken
Vs.
Wizard
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!!"
Agent0042
12-03-2005, 04:09 AM
Well, Kraken is certainly a funny name. That's my vote too.
Swedish Fish
12-03-2005, 06:19 AM
Kraken all the way.
MossY
12-03-2005, 11:43 AM
Wizard ftw.
Tidus 66
12-03-2005, 09:42 PM
Wizard
FF1WithAllThieves
12-05-2005, 08:44 PM
The results:
Wizard - 3
Kraken - 2
Quite a close one, but Wizard pulled ahead at the end. This rumble's finally moving now! Here's the next matchup:
Lobster
Vs.
R. Goyle
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!!"
Tidus 66
12-05-2005, 08:52 PM
R.Goyle
MossY
12-05-2005, 08:55 PM
Lobster
Swedish Fish
12-05-2005, 11:34 PM
R. Goyle
Agent0042
12-06-2005, 02:03 AM
Hmm, Lobster for me, I'd say. Can I get shrimp too? Just kidding!
rev0lver0cel0t
12-06-2005, 05:13 AM
Lobster...i've been deployed for a while...sorry
damphyr12
12-07-2005, 12:04 AM
R.Goyle
FF1WithAllThieves
12-07-2005, 02:52 AM
Could be a close one...
R. Goyle - 3
Lobster - 3
A tie... I choose... R. Goyle! So...
R. Goyle - 4
Lobster - 3
A very close one indeed. I chose R. Goyle just because they're so damn funny. Anyway, I've noticed that some people are voting who aren't particularly familiar with the monsters. I'm not saying this is a bad thing; I'm just wondering if you want me to start posting descriptions again. If so, please say so when you vote. The next matchup:
Muck
Vs.
Ghost
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!"
Agent0042
12-07-2005, 04:58 AM
FF1WithAllThieves --- I think descriptions could help a lot of people --- normally in the other rumbles, they're only posted in the first round, but because it's been a long time since many people have played FFI, they might need some refreshing.
Muck here.
Swedish Fish
12-08-2005, 07:47 AM
Ghost
MossY
12-08-2005, 11:04 PM
Include descriptions if you want. Also, Muck
rev0lver0cel0t
12-12-2005, 04:50 AM
MUCK!
FF1WithAllThieves
12-14-2005, 04:34 AM
Sorry about the late update. I've been kind of busy recently. Anyway...
Muck - 3
Ghost - 1
A rather strong victory for Muck. Perhaps it could go far... I didn't really get enough of an enthusiastic reply to do descriptions. They take an awfully long amount of time to do, even if I just recycle the old ones, and if someone really needs to know he can just go check the rest of the rumble. It takes me longer to post descriptions than it does to go back and read the rumble, anyway. So, here's the next matchup:
Sentry
Vs.
Nitemare
As Brian Glynn would say, "Round 2, FIGHT!!!!"
Agent0042
12-14-2005, 05:29 AM
I think this one will have to be Nitemare for me.
Swedish Fish
12-15-2005, 03:39 AM
Nitemare
MossY
12-17-2005, 02:32 PM
Nitemare
Shadow_Lurker
06-14-2006, 04:35 PM
Nitemare
Agent0042
06-14-2006, 11:27 PM
Oh gawd. As most everyone else has figured out by now, everything old is new again. In fact, this rumble ended. It's over. Done with.
the intellectual
07-29-2006, 01:28 AM
if you want more information on the monsters, go here (
http://www.ffshrine.org/ff1/ff1_monsters_ag.php)
and for bosses go here (
http://www.ffshrine.org/ff1/ff1_bosses.php)
as for this battle i must say sentry, he had more HP was strong against more things, but nitemare's were cooler
Agent0042
07-29-2006, 01:58 AM
bangs head against wall
Oh gawd. As most everyone else has figured out by now, everything old is new again. In fact, this rumble ended. It's over. Done with.
the intellectual
07-29-2006, 02:08 AM
why would anyone bang their head against the wall, that is a clearly illogical action
Agent0042
07-29-2006, 03:15 AM
No more illogical than posting a vote for and making suggestions for a competition that has been dead for months and has clearly been stated to be so.
the intellectual
07-29-2006, 03:20 AM
utevuon, it hasn't been deleted yet, so, it's not over yet
Agent0042
07-29-2006, 04:35 AM
Just because something hasn't been deleted doesn't mean it's not over. As a general practice, threads are never deleted from this board unless they're blatant spam. If you would pay a bit more attention and read a bit more closely, you would see that there is over a six month gap in posts on the previous page. And if you read this thread here ---
http://forums.ffshrine.org/announcement.php?f=24 then you'd know that there was a recent forum hack and so a lot of information got deleted from the boards.
The person who started the thread hasn't posted in it in ages? Shouldn't that be a clue?
Trust me, I've been here for over four years and I was a regular participant in this rumble, so I do know what I'm talking about.
FF1WithAllThieves
07-29-2006, 05:21 PM
I'll help you out here, Agent.
To anybody who reads this thread, the eventual winner was Tiamat.
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