dreamplayer
02-14-2005, 05:57 PM
Where can I find iron duke? I need it for Trema...
Does I get it from Trema or what?
I think it's iron duke i'm looking for...it gives a lot of everything...str, def, etc.

Jewels
02-14-2005, 06:29 PM
You want it for Trema... but you need to defeat Trema to get it. You shouldn't need the Iron Duke, unless your levels are extremely low.

dreamplayer
02-14-2005, 07:42 PM
But do you know where to get it? i'm 95...training up to level 99...but the prob' is that after i've finished paragon i don't have mucg life back...

Jewels
02-14-2005, 11:29 PM
Yeah, you need to actually defeat Trema to get it.

You could use Trigger Happy or Congrats against Paragon so when you fight Trema, you'll be like new. Have two Dark Knights/Mascots with Crystal Bangles, Shining/Defense Bracers and the Higher Power Garment Grid. Have your gunner (preferably Yuna) with Catnip, Speed Bracer and the Highroad Winds Garment Grid. Use a Soul Spring to take away Trema's MP, then just Trigger Happy him. Heal with X-Potions.

Haven't play X-2 in a while, so that strategy is from memory.

Lady Obscurity
02-15-2005, 01:51 AM
Sorry, but the only way that you would be able to fight Trema with the Iron Duke accessory is to, well, start a New Game Plus if you had already beaten Trema and received it and then make your way through the Bevelle Underground all over again and fight him for a second time...

-MY NON MASCOT STRATEGY-
Lemme tell ya one thing... He is hard to beat if you don't have the Mascot dress sphere. I beat him without it and it was difficult, believe me... I recommend training your party to Level 99. To make it easier on yourself, have the girls use Lady Luck with the the double experience ability (I don't remember the exact name of it, but it's easy to recognize.) When they're at Level 99 and you're at the final floor of Via Infinito, return to the surface and SAVE YOUR GAME after preparations. I really hope that you have a lot of X-Potions for this battle. Make sure that you have AT LEAST sixty or better. Also, have around 20-30 Mega Phoenixes just in case. Make sure you have some Stamina Springs, which allows for the breakage of the HP Limit. Give each of the girls the Higher Power (contains HP Limit exceed ability) garmet grid. Turn Yuna into a mastered Gunner and the other two into mastered Dark Knights. Give Yuna the Cat Nip accessory and Rabite's Foot. Equip Paine and Rikku with HP raising accessories and Rabite's Foot. One more thing. Set the ATB on Wait so that you have more time sorting through your item inventory.

Basically, the only way to succeed in defeating Paragon without so much as a scratch is to have someone attack Yuna and get her HP in the yellow. Once that it done, make her start the Trigger Happy command and press R1 as fast as possible. He should be done after one round. If you were lucky, Paine nor Rikku did not have any damage dealt to them. Remember, you have no time in between battles to heal your party!

After the rather long conversation with Trema, that battle begins with the theme of Bevelle playing in the background.... (I have NO IDEA why I just mentioned that...-.-') Anyway, let me explain the pattern of Trema's attacks. He does Meteor when his HP begins to drop and does it again when another chunk is whacked off. He casts Ultima when he has 1/4 life remaining, which automatically does 9999 damage to everyone... That spells certain GAME OVER for you. That is why I mentioned the Stamina Springs. At the beginning of battle, have either Rikku or Paine use a Stamina Spring. This will enable breakage of 9999 HP. Just remember, though... If someone dies and then is revived, the Stamina Spring is deactivated and you have to use it on her again. With Yuna in the yellow, use Trigger Happy as much as possible. Have the other two use X-Potions to heal. And if things get ugly, use Mega Phoenixes. After a long onslaught of physical attacks, Trema will use Meteor, doing a hefty amount of damage. First, if Paine or Rikku gets KO'd, use a Phoenix Down/Mega Phoenix IMMEDIATELY. Heal the two of them with X-Potions, keeping their HPs over 100000. Reactivate the Stamina Spring if necessary. Yuna probably died, so revive her and keep having her do Trigger Happy when her health is in the yellow. When Trema casts Meteor again, repeat the previous process. By the time he uses Ultima, you are one or two Trigger Happys away from victory! Like I mentioned already, make sure Paine and Rikku are in good condition and have Yuna do one or two more Trigger Happys. Trema is defeated and you receive an Iron Duke as your prize!!

Sorry that was so long winded, but it takes a lot of patience (of which, I don't usually have) to defeat Paragon and Trema without the Mascot dress sphere. If you have it... USE IT, DAMMIT! o_O'.....

....Hope this helped!

Hex Omega
02-15-2005, 03:22 AM
cheers.that'll help.where is the best place to level up the girls?

Agent0042
02-15-2005, 05:13 AM
The later cloisters of the Via Infinito is definitely the best place.

Lady Obscurity
02-15-2005, 02:46 PM
cheers.that'll help.where is the best place to level up the girls?


I think Via Infinito. That's where I leveled up, anyway... Just make sure they are using the Lady Luck dress sphere with the Double EXP ability learned...


The later cloisters of the Via Infinito is definitely the best place.

Yeah. Be sure to train on the later floors.

Vivi FF
02-15-2005, 08:48 PM
Take note that the later battles on the Via Infinito are still pretty tough, so without the proper strategies, it might be kind of hard for you.

The next best place to level up is in the Farplane (I think I leveled up on the many roads before the actual Farplane). It might take longer to level up there, but the enemies are fairly easy.

And an easy solution to get a girl into critical status before the fight is to have her equip a Bloodlust, and then equip a Wring (or another Bloodlust or vice versa). Each accessory cuts your max HP in half, so equipping two of them will cut it to 1/4. Then unequip them and since the game won't heal for you, your character will be at 1/4 HP (Critical status) with the usual max HP. Just make sure you do this after you transport to the floors, because if you touch the blue thing, it fully heals your HP and MP.

blitzking99
02-18-2005, 02:56 AM
i beat paragon by bribe. trema wasnt so bad it was just that he had alot of hp

puchiko999
02-18-2005, 09:47 AM
Huh?? I tried to bribe (800,000 gil) Paragon too, but it didn�t work T-T

dreamplayer
02-18-2005, 02:20 PM
Before the fight is to have her equip a Bloodlust, and then equip a Wring (or another Bloodlust or vice versa). Each accessory cuts your max HP in half, so equipping two of them will cut it to 1/4. Then unequip them and since the game won't heal for you, your character will be at 1/4 HP (Critical status) with the usual max HP.

Great idea...

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I don't think it's good to train after lvl 80. But from 60-80 it's the best place ever...My opinion...

Agent0042
02-18-2005, 09:16 PM
I beat Paragon using Lady Luck Random Reels All 7s. This is a trick that works for every almost every boss in the game, with the exception of Paragon, Trema and a couple of the machina bosses. Simply start up Random Reels, hit Pause when a 7 appears at the top or just below the top of a Reel, quickly let go and then hit X. Once you've mastered the timing, you can get 777 almost every time, and this activates CONGRATS!, an ability that actually gives you gil and also bribes the enemy. This works for the other Reels abilities as well.

xdistantxdreamerx
02-19-2005, 12:47 AM
If you still want the Iron Duke, trema is soo hard, but there is another way.....use the equipment that gives like 50% ^ defence and what not. but wth hard work, and lost and losts of patience, you should defeat trema.....

BizarroSephiroth
02-19-2005, 12:55 AM
The later cloisters of the Via Infinito is definitely the best place.
I'm up to Cloister 34 and cannot beat this thing, the Elder Drake. I keep hoppng up and down ledges, and there is this big gap with the drake inside. How do I get passed this extremely hard enemy.

Lady Obscurity
02-19-2005, 01:22 AM
I'm up to Cloister 34 and cannot beat this thing, the Elder Drake. I keep hoppng up and down ledges, and there is this big gap with the drake inside. How do I get passed this extremely hard enemy.

I hate that damn thing! Anyway, if I remember correctly, there are other paths around the pit with the Elder Drake. You have to go through one of the paths (I think it's the left one) and hit a switch to activate the stepping stones above the pit... Explore a bit and once you get it, you'll be fine! ;)

Agent0042
02-19-2005, 03:58 AM
The 777 Random Reels trick I described in my earlier post also works on that guy. Berserker's Evade and Counter also works great on those. Lady Obscurity is right though, you can always avoid them if you look around enough.

puchiko999
02-19-2005, 12:15 PM
If you still want the Iron Duke, trema is soo hard, but there is another way.....use the equipment that gives like 50% ^ defence and what not. but wth hard work, and lost and losts of patience, you should defeat trema.....

what accessory is it???


I'm up to Cloister 34 and cannot beat this thing, the Elder Drake. I keep hoppng up and down ledges, and there is this big gap with the drake inside. How do I get passed this extremely hard enemy.

for Elder drake I also use Berserker�s evade & counter.

blitzking99
02-19-2005, 10:35 PM
Huh?? I tried to bribe (800,000 gil) Paragon too, but it didn�t work T-T

im not sure how much gil u need but i did use bribe. try getting more gil. if bribe works u get like 10 dark matters which help against trema.

xdistantxdreamerx
02-20-2005, 12:50 AM
what accessory is it???
umm, im not sure of the name, but i think one is called the champion belt....im not 100% sure of the names.

Hex Omega
02-20-2005, 08:04 AM
it gives you +100 to all stats including HP and MP(100% for those two obviously)

dreamplayer
02-23-2005, 04:55 PM
umm, im not sure of the name, but i think one is called the champion belt....im not 100% sure of the names.

Champion belt gives 40 str & def...so I don't think it's that one.

Hex Omega
02-23-2005, 10:45 PM
no Iron Duke gives you 100+ to all stats

puchiko999
02-25-2005, 06:22 PM
Anyone knows how to make Paragon oversouled?? Do you have to fight other �...weapon� monsters to make him oversouled, do they have to be oversouled as well?

Jewels
02-25-2005, 07:33 PM
You could either fight Paragon over and over till you oversoul him, or fight other weapon monsters until you see them oversouled. If you see another weapon oversouled, run away and fight Paragon.

Lady Obscurity
02-26-2005, 07:59 AM
Oh crap.... That's what I forgot to add to my strategy that I posted! It seemed to slip my mind that I had Paragon oversouled when I fought him.... Geez... Don't I feel stupid now! -.-' Anyways, for all of you who are wondering, this is how you oversoul Paragon:

To oversoul Paragon, you need to fight "weapon" type fiends, such as the Ultima or Omega Weapons. What you do is you encounter this particular type and keep defeating them over and over again. Eventually, it will oversoul. When it does, DON'T ATTACK/DEFEAT IT! Flee from battle and when you fight Paragon, it should be oversouled. By the way, you can encounter a weapon inside of Via Infinito...

I apologize for not mentioning this sooner! Hope it helped, though.

puchiko999
02-26-2005, 04:56 PM
Do you also have a Mascot strategy :P ???

Lady Obscurity
02-27-2005, 07:51 AM
Do you also have a Mascot strategy :P ???

No, I managed to beat Trema without it......

Agent0042
02-27-2005, 07:46 PM
puchiko999 --- are you telling us that you have Mascot and you still neat a strategy? Just pound away! Use stuff like Yuna's Moogle Regenja, Curaja and Hasteja, Paine's Cactling Gun and whatever you can with Rikku. Sneak in a Moogle Beam from Yuna whenever you can. I hope you got Break Damage Limit for both Yuna and Paine, if not better go get them.

dreamplayer
02-27-2005, 09:04 PM
What's good about oversouling paragon?
does congrats work and how much to bribe it?

Agent0042
02-28-2005, 01:19 AM
Yes, CONGRATS! works on Paragon, be it Oversouled or not. CONGRATS! works on pretty much every enemy except a few types of machina, Vegnagun and I think maybe one or two other bosses, including Trema. I don't know how much to bribe it, because I always just used CONGRATS!

dreamplayer
02-28-2005, 07:54 AM
There's at least 6 bosses you can't use it on . Trema and all of the bosses in the den of woe.

rikkulover
03-02-2005, 04:19 AM
iron duke is hard to get even when u have to kill trema for it. paragon is easy just bust out your mascot best movesand have break damage limit on them. all u have to do is train while fighting throughout the levels. i killed paragon and trema easily and my lv. were y:88 p:92 r:99 by the time i reached the top. all u do just get a gunner, equip catnip to her and use trigger happy in her yellow sections a few times and u win. =)

i master every dressphere on the way up 2