Elliot Goldenthal / Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (15th Anniversary Deluxe Edition) / FLAC/MP3/HiRes / Covers





Before I talk myself, I'll give you Fink (http://forums.ffshrine.org/member.php?u=112417):

I remember when this movie came out fans of the videogame series complained about the composer choice. Well, I can understand their point of view, but if you’re a movie music fan, Elliot Goldenthal is a great choice. During the 90s and early 2000's he wrote outstanding scores; and now no one cares about this movie anymore, it looks dated, it is still boring, but the music remains the best thing about it. I always liked Goldenthal in grandiose mode, and here he truly delivers. What I especially like about FF is the fact that it’s scored very straight. It’s very serious and could have been boring, but it works wonderfully.

I always thought that the album presentation was very good. Most of the time, Goldenthal's albums are very well assembled. Since his music can really drive you mad, two CD's can be too much to bear. To me that’s what happened with LLL's Batman Forever: it’s just too much. And over the years I became a fan of 75-80 minutes album. So that’s what I tried to do here once more. I followed the original album presentation but put some tracks in better order to make it a little more chronological. Still, it is an album presentation, and the point was to obtain a really good flow by adding new cues here and there, extending some of the already existing tracks, and keep everything that I felt was truly missing. So if you’re a fan of C&C presentations, please don't even try it :) And yes, it is based on my personal tastes, so maybe you’ll think something is missing or that there is too much (yes, I even extended my favourite track "Toccata and Dreamscapes") but well that’s all you will get.

Of course, the main purpose of this album was to get a better sound, so I asked the infamous SonicAdventure to help me for the second time now. I very much enjoyed our first collaboration on the Hunger Games: Highlights from Panem (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?t=197599&highlight=), and was patiently waiting for a worthy occasion to continue our partnership. I remember seeing the official FF album stored somewhere in his basement. So with the recording sessions surfacing it was time for me to make him to like this score as much as I like it. It has to remain a pleasure for him to work on a score, and I love when he says that, in the end, he grew to really like it. And he does. Useless to say that the sound is much better now, I mean, truly.

At least, but not last, the master of custom covers helped SonicAdventure to improve his already impressive takes on the artwork, and I have to say it is really gorgeous.

Overall I’m more than happy with the results, and I love when collaborations are so easy and rewarding! I did the easiest part with the editing, so now I let Sonic speak about the difficulties he had :) (Oh, and why keep this unbearable Lara Fabian song? Sonic wanted it, since it’s written by Goldenthal, and we still had space to fill. Feel free to erase it :) )





And here is Heidl (http://forums.ffshrine.org/member.php?u=428356) for you:

Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within turns 15 this year, and it hasn’t aged that well to be honest. The visuals were groundbreaking back then, but don’t get anyone excited about nowadays. The score on the other hand is still one of Goldenthal’s best. And that is saying something, because Elliot Goldenthal himself is still one of the very best of his game, even though his film score output has slowed down significantly.



So, on the occasion of this anniversary my dear audio-engineering friend SonicAdventure decided to brush off the dust and polish up this forgotten diamond. And I was graced with helping out on the cover artworks, which I naturally did. But at first I did some revamping too, namely by remaking my own two custom covers (edit Sonic: the two above). Beside the low image resolution I have always been quite pleased with them. (My first cover is) based on this super-high-resolution headshot of Dr. Aki Ross and I love how it tells you nothing at all about neither the movie nor the music. But – at least for me – it drags my immediate attention. And it has a Japanese touch to it, which i generally like very much. It took me a while to come up with the final composition and placement of the album credits. Somehow it never felt completely right to me and I kept dragging the font around forever. I also tried several font types, but it always was either too bland or too attention-grabbing. In the end I went with the original logo font “Compacta LET” and the more fancy “Ailerons Regular“. I think these two sans serif faces complement each other in a nice harmonic way.



The first three customs are primarily Sonic’s works (edit Sonic: the three above). I helped with little bits here and there, but for the most part all credits belong to him (edit sonic: no, they don't ;)). My main contribution probably was finding a suitable image of Mother Earth, since the source image evoked memories of a festive Christmas glitter ball in us. And that’s nothing I want to be reminded of when I’m listening to this soundtrack.



The other three customs were done by yours truly (edit Sonic: you know the game), although strictly speaking they’re not that custom after all. I shamelessly ripped off previously existing original designs, such as Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, Sony Records’ Japanese Edition of the movie score and the iconic logo treatment of the Final Fantasy video game series. Especially the last one was a blast to make! First of all, I had to find and extract a representative key image from the films promotional campaign, before turning it into a waterpaint-like drawing. Then I added the recognizable colour gradients and finally recreated the title treatment using the original font. This was great fun and I really wonder why on earth I hadn’t thought about this earlier.

All of this - and more - can be found on Heidl's homepage -> HQCovers (http://hqcovers.net/2016/04/01/final-fantasy-the-spirits-within-by-elliot-goldenthal/).





Yeah, Baby, now it�s my turn! But... now, that I�m on... well, I don�t know what to say. Fink & Heidl have said it all already. I�ll just say that it took me only 6 hours to master this. Oh wait, there�s a little bit more to say. When Zaralyth shared the sessions (http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?t=200605&highlight=) a month ago, I immediately knew that they would need work. The sound wasn�t the issue, they sounded almost like the OST, only softer. The track order was problematic as I feared that all of it wouldn�t make a good listening experience. Thankfully, Fink had the same idea and so he suggested to combine it all into an expanded OST. Boy, was I glad that I wouldn�t have to do that because it had been years since I�ve last watched my DVD. After he finished his marvellous work, I listened to it and then mastered it within 6 hours. The next day it took me another hour to tweak it here and there. My only contribution to Fink's mix was that I added the beginning of the OST and the song. I also changed the track order of Tracks 3 & 4 and I retitled some tracks. Despite sounding like everything was taken from the OST, only four small parts were used: the first 52 seconds of Track 1, the whole of Track 2, a small part within Track 9 and Track 20. You can see this yourself: the OST tracks contain dithering noise, the session tracks do not.
All of it was very easy, as I copied the original master by Vlado Meller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlado_Meller) and expanded upon it. You see, Mr. Meller is quite (in)famous for being an early proponent of the Loudness War. He�s responsible for such hideous jobs as 'Californication' by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and other dreadful sounding mainstream releases. On the other hand, judging by the way it was mastered and when comparing it to the sessions, I got the impression that Mr. Goldenthal himself gave specific instructions how to master it. Besides, Meller has mastered most of Goldenthal's releases. So my end result has been brickwalled limited - but not as much as Mr. Meller would have done it. In spite of the loudness issues, the OST has always sounded well. Some loud peaks contain distortions, but those are present on the sessions, too. I just wanted to have a tad more charm, warmth and a less flat stage without the too constricted sound of the sessions. I think I succeeded.

Initially, this project was an idea by Fink where he wanted me to work on the sound. But when it came to the cover, I knew I needed help. So I asked Heidl and - thank Heavens - he decided to help us. I like to think that I was quite creative this time. Usually, I don�t have that many ideas and I don�t know why it was different with Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Heidl is pretty modest when it comes to his contributions. In addition to - greatly - improving my ideas (and in one case executing them because my knowledge how to achieve them was badly lacking) he also provided me with several mockups in order to present this Edition as best as possible and, as usual, had tons of advice for me. Since the original design material for the movie was mostly crap, both of us had to come up with our own. One idea I had was centered around the movies' resolution (the ghosts are freed and return to their Gaia) and the blue-white ray of light shooting up into space. Another idea was based on one of the Spirits Aki Ross collects in the movie which was a plant; so one cover is based on a drawn plant (the least successful cover IMO). The rest of my material is based on bits and pieces derived from original material.

This is a collaboration between 3 people. All of us invested a lot of effort and work into a project some people might describe as pointless. After all, there are people who outright hate that movie. I�ve never understood that. Sure, it has many flaws, its rhythm leaves much to be desired, the animation has never been that good, it�s an example of the uncanny valley, the story is uneven. But it�s a brainy movie and its heart is at its right place. It mixes American storytelling with Japanese Storytelling and I�ve always loved its message "Think hard before you are aggressive towards someone or something".

So this 15th Anniversaray Deluxe Edition is not only a testament to the music of Elliot Goldenthal, it�s also a reminder of what the movie was. Third, this project was made to honour this forum, the Final Fantasy Shrine, where people meet, talk, argue, discuss, have fun; and its many members who can be so wonderful and generous at times. This is for all of you.

And to emphasize this, I created 3 versions. One is the usual FLAC version, the other is an MP3 encode (I can do this since everything was lossless) and the third version is in 24 Bit & 48 kHz, directly derived from my 32/192 master files (which were upsampled before I worked on it, of course). The FLAC & MP3 versions are slightly brickwall limited, the HiRes version is not, that one is exactly like what I�m listening to at home. The advantage of HiRes is close to zero so I wanted it to have an actual reason to exist, I know many people will appreciate it.

I cannot stress it enough: I love these collaborations. Without Fink and his fantastic work I wouldn�t have listened to it at all, without Heidl I wouldn�t have finished the covers. And without this forum, I wouldn�t have met both. So my thanks goes to this place! :)

P.S.: give reputation points to Heidl & Fink. They deserve it far more than me.


Tracklist:


1. Opening (The Spirit Within) 2:11
2. Race To Old New York 1:24
3. The Phantom Plains 2:13
4. Life In Desolation 4:45
5. Code Red 2:10
6. A Child Recalled 2:09
7. Barred Cities 1:50
8. Entrada 1:56
9. Toccata And Dreamscapes 10:01
10. Music For Dialogues 2:23
11. Winged Serpent 1:58
12. Zeus Cannon 3:16
13. Flight To The Wasteland 6:36
14. Dead Rain 3:59
15. The Kiss 4:55
16. Blue Light 2:48
17. The Eighth Spirit 2:45
18. In Somnis Veritas 7:09
19. Adagio And Transfiguration 6:30
20. The Dream Within (performed by Lara Fabian) 4:45



PLEASE NOTE: Please give your reputation to Fink (http://forums.ffshrine.org/member.php?u=112417) & Heidl (http://forums.ffshrine.org/member.php?u=428356). I cannot accept any points anymore so give it to them, they�ve earned it more than me.

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Links HiRes (24/48):


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Thanks!

Wow, this score seems to pretty unpopular judging by what seems to be a lukewarm response. Sony should never re-release it, they would probably make a loss :(

I loved Goldenthal's score for Batman Forever so I'm a bit curious about this. And the only thing FF related I've ever watched is Advent Children, which is a masterpiece in my eyes. Thanks a ton for working on this, Fink, Heidl and Sonic.

Awesome post. Thanks a lot.

Appreciate your hard work as always. You guys make a good team <3

Appreciate your hard work as always. You guys make a good team <3

And without your generous share this wouldn't have been possible. So thank you!

Awesome. Big fan of Goldenthal, and of this score in particular. I have it downloading and will be checking it out shortly. Thanks to all involved for the effort!

Many thanks for this friends!!

awesome teamwork ...

Thanks to the whole gang. Zaralyth for the sessions, and Sonic, Heidl, and Fink for this Deluxe edition. Rep missiles will be fired at all of you.

Edit: Listening to the HiRes now. Perfection.

P.S. (I kinda like the Lara Fabian song. It actually has decent lyrics and works the film's theme into its structure. As far as shitty vocal tracks go, this one is above average for sure)

Awesome! I love listening to this. Definitely going to listen to it again.

Many thanks to all.

Can't say i have ever listened to this. And i haven't seen the film either. But this team effort seems like the best place to start :) Thanks to all involved!

Wow, this score seems to pretty unpopular judging by what seems to be a lukewarm response. Sony should never re-release it, they would probably make a loss :(

If only it was composed by bestest composer ever that is Hans Zimmer.

Thank you guys for the work!

Thank you! Amazing collaboration :)

Like the film, love the score. I do of course have the OST and the sessions. Now it seems I can add a third (or replace the OST) with this wonderful sounding release.

Thanks to all involved

Hans Zimmer does his thing. This is not his thing...

P.S. (I kinda like the Lara Fabian song. It actually has decent lyrics and works the film's theme into its structure. As far as shitty vocal tracks go, this one is above average for sure)

Me too. Though Fink is partly right: her voice is quite obnoxious, especially when she gets louder. Responsible is a pretty smallband peak in her voice around 1175 Hz (which I subsequently diminished slightly).

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If only it was composed by bestest composer ever that is Hans Zimmer.

Thank you guys for the work!

Hihi... he won�t be able to do something like this ;)

And composer stretches it a bit far, I�d say :D

To be fair, I meant his own style. I would assume a lot of Badelt would've been in it too.

Glad to see this release, hope everyoone will enjoy it :)

Well here we are. The dream has come true! Thanks for all your hard work guys!

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Glad to see this release, hope everyoone will enjoy it :)

I will. I've been waiting for an expanded release for years now. I'm glad this site exists, for exactly this! A job very well done my friend!

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Me too. Though Fink is partly right: her voice is quite obnoxious, especially when she gets louder. Responsible is a pretty smallband peak in her voice around 1175 Hz (which I subsequently diminished slightly).

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Hihi... he won�t be able to do something like this ;)

And composer stretches it a bit far, I�d say :D

I actually always wondered what Interstellar would've sounded like if Goldenthal would've done it. Seemed like a dream project for him at the time.

Oh and Sonic, wow on the sound! It's incredible, combined with Fink's stellar editing, this is everything I could've hoped for!

THANKS!

Thank you for this! It was my first Goldenthal score, I love it.

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Unfortunately I can not get to the download. Im using android tablet plus I live in Asia, so annoyingly can not connect . :-(

I actually always wondered what Interstellar would've sounded like if Goldenthal would've done it. Seemed like a dream project for him at the time.

Oh and Sonic, wow on the sound! It's incredible, combined with Fink's stellar editing, this is everything I could've hoped for!

Actually, I quite like what Zimmer has done for the movie. That is, when the score is used within the movie. I just can�t listen to the score on its own.

And I�m glad you like the sound :)

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Unfortunately I can not get to the download. Im using android tablet plus I live in Asia, so annoyingly can not connect . :-(

Is the tablet your only internet capable device? BTW, JDownloader also exists as a Java download - which should be possible on an Android (?) tablet.

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To be fair, I meant his own style. I would assume a lot of Badelt would've been in it too.

Or JunkieXL - who certainly would incorporate things from others. Goldenthal perhaps. Or Vivaldi. Or Doldinger. Or Howard Shore. Like he did on Batman v Superman ;)

Awesome score, thanks!

The rather lackluster response to this thread is truly heartbreaking, especially considering that this appears to be one of your most ambitious releases yet! On the one hand you say that it only took you six hours to master, but on the other hand it was definitely a momentous collaborative effort between you, hiedl and Fink, all of whom clearly pitched in an impressive amount of effort themselves. If you mind me asking, would you classify this as your biggest release yet? Which one of your releases required the most effort on your part? Which one are you most proud off? Just looking at how much went into it, I would rank this one pretty highly. Thus making the fact that this thread hasn't even reached the second page yet baffling.

The decision to create an expanded OST presentation instead of a complete score leaves me giddy. I have said in numerous threads that almost all of Goldenthal's scores work best in an album presentation, where the score is free to be condensed into various suites to create an experience separate from the film, even at the cost of chronological ordering if it results in better flow (I remember this was one of your complaints regarding "The Last Samurai"). As I said in my now redundant thread for this very score:


For some reason, I've come to adore Goldenthal's album presentations of his works, as despite the chronological screwiness, they make for very enjoyable album experiences. Heaven forbid anyone other than Goldenthal attempt this, though� It probably helps that many of Goldenthal's works don't play so well outside of the film in a complete form (particularly "Titus" and "Alien�").

So kudos to both Fink and Sonic for recognizing that complete, chronological presentations don't always work and presenting us with something a little different. Now, I hate to be that guy that's all "this is great, but when are you going to do -insert score here- HURRY UP SONIC" but if you ever get around to doing some other Goldenthal scores (and quite a few of them have been leaking lately!) I really do feel this type of presentation would be almost perfect for them.

So allow me to say:

TO FINK: Thank you for your wisdom and foresight in recognizing how best to offer an expanded presentation, and working on the tracklist and ordering (and getting Sonic addicted to the score). And thank you for recognizing that "Toccata And Dreamscapes" is the best track evarz.

TO SONIC: Thank you for delivering what is no doubt another incredible remastering effort along with your own maturing cover designs. You improve with every release. Granted, I haven't had a chance to listen to it quite yet though, so there's a chance that it's actually garbage ;). But I'm confident you've managed to deliver another masterpiece (out of what, twenty past Deluxe scores? Get your own label, dude).

TO HIEDL: Thank you for not only providing the premium in cover design, but also back covers, inlays, the whole shebang. Talk about going above and beyond the call of duty.

Now if you'd excuse me, I'm gonna go give this a spin RIGHT NOW.

P.S: As an aside I love the way you've edited and structured your opening post so not only do all three of you get to say your piece, but it's broken up nicely by the different fonts and colours, as well as heidl and Sonic's stellar cover designs. It's not only visually pleasing but very easy to read and identify who's talking. Funnily enough, the different fonts and colours project a different voice in my head when reading. I'm sure a psych major would have a field day with that observation.

Thank you very much for this ambitious project. Goldenthal's score for Final Fantasy is always criminally overlooked. It's not exactly an easy listening-experience if you do not love atonal stuff (I do) and comes across more like an avant-garde concert work than your average film score. I guess that turned most people away (well, the film being a colossal flop certainly didn't help matters either). Still, I love this score a great deal, it certainly was far more than the film deserved and this version is really professionally arranged, with great care and love for the music. I can only endorse it.

Or JunkieXL - who certainly would incorporate things from others. Goldenthal perhaps. Or Vivaldi. Or Doldinger. Or Howard Shore. Like he did on Batman v Superman

Hm, I thought it were mostly belt sanders, chainsaws and jackhammers.

Thank you Sonic and Team for this fine piece of work. I have the original cd album, but haven't listened to it in well over 10 years, so this is going to be a great opportunity to rediscover it with the additional cues as a bonus :)

The rather lackluster response to this thread is truly heartbreaking, especially considering that this appears to be one of your most ambitious releases yet! On the one hand you say that it only took you six hours to master, but on the other hand it was definitely a momentous collaborative effort between you, hiedl and Fink, all of whom clearly pitched in an impressive amount of effort themselves. If you mind me asking, would you classify this as your biggest release yet? Which one of your releases required the most effort on your part? Which one are you most proud off? Just looking at how much went into it, I would rank this one pretty highly. Thus making the fact that this thread hasn't even reached the second page yet baffling.

The decision to create an expanded OST presentation instead of a complete score leaves me giddy. I have said in numerous threads that almost all of Goldenthal's scores work best in an album presentation, where the score is free to be condensed into various suites to create an experience separate from the film, even at the cost of chronological ordering if it results in better flow (I remember this was one of your complaints regarding "The Last Samurai"). As I said in my now redundant thread for this very score:



So kudos to both Fink and Sonic for recognizing that complete, chronological presentations don't always work and presenting us with something a little different. Now, I hate to be that guy that's all "this is great, but when are you going to do -insert score here- HURRY UP SONIC" but if you ever get around to doing some other Goldenthal scores (and quite a few of them have been leaking lately!) I really do feel this type of presentation would be almost perfect for them.

So allow me to say:

TO FINK: Thank you for your wisdom and foresight in recognizing how best to offer an expanded presentation, and working on the tracklist and ordering (and getting Sonic addicted to the score). And thank you for recognizing that "Toccata And Dreamscapes" is the best track evarz.

TO SONIC: Thank you for delivering what is no doubt another incredible remastering effort along with your own maturing cover designs. You improve with every release. Granted, I haven't had a chance to listen to it quite yet though, so there's a chance that it's actually garbage ;). But I'm confident you've managed to deliver another masterpiece (out of what, twenty past Deluxe scores? Get your own label, dude).

TO HIEDL: Thank you for not only providing the premium in cover design, but also back covers, inlays, the whole shebang. Talk about going above and beyond the call of duty.

Now if you'd excuse me, I'm gonna go give this a spin RIGHT NOW.

P.S: As an aside I love the way you've edited and structured your opening post so not only do all three of you get to say your piece, but it's broken up nicely by the different fonts and colours, as well as heidl and Sonic's stellar cover designs. It's not only visually pleasing but very easy to read and identify who's talking. Funnily enough, the different fonts and colours project a different voice in my head when reading. I'm sure a psych major would have a field day with that observation.

Thanks Glassbutterfleis for all those words.

I noticed you mentioning all those backs, inlays and labels. Well those are entirely Sonic's works! Of course you couldn't have known this, but I have to pass the praise along to him.

In general I haven't been involved in this Anniversary Edition as much as the original post might suggest. All I did was knock out a few(!) simple front covers and sent them to Sonic via facebook. When it comes to effort and time intensity, our Mulan Deluxe Edition was way more ambitious and laborious on my part. I've easily spent 2 whole weeks on that one, while for FF it was merely a couple of hours.

I just wanted to clarify that. Nonetheless I'm happy for everyone who enjoys it. I certainly do.

First of all, GlassButterflies: you beauty. What a lovely, detailed post. I love love love to read stuff like this, this is why I want to release anything I do. To get those responses. People explaining themselves, writing their opinions, starting a discussion.


The rather lackluster response to this thread is truly heartbreaking, especially considering that this appears to be one of your most ambitious releases yet! On the one hand you say that it only took you six hours to master, but on the other hand it was definitely a momentous collaborative effort between you, hiedl and Fink, all of whom clearly pitched in an impressive amount of effort themselves. If you mind me asking, would you classify this as your biggest release yet? Which one of your releases required the most effort on your part? Which one are you most proud off?

Judging by what Heidl wrote below, I think I spent way more hours on the cover. And I admit, in the end, I couldn�t see them anymore, I just wanted it to be finished.

However, the releases with the biggest amount of work were 'Star Trek: The Motion Picture' (don�t try my Edition, it has been succeeded by LLLs version... which is a bit lackluster but still better), 'Spiderman 3', 'Mummy Returns'. The first two cases took so long because the material I had to use was crap, the last was difficult regarding dynamics. The most proud of... difficult. I'd rather say the ones I still listen to: 'King Kong', 'Mulan', 'Indy 4', both Harry Potters, 'Maleficent', 'Dreamcatcher', 'What Lies Beneath', 'The Hunger Games: Highlights', 'Salt', 'Superman Returns', both Bournes, 'X-Men 3', 'Mimic', 'From Hell', 'Basic Instinct', 'I know what you did last summer', 'Tintin'. Those are the ones I regularly listen to. Don�t have a look for all of them, 5 have never been released (because they�re Varese or redundant).

I�d love to do again - some time - 'Jurassic Park', 'Van Helsing', 'The Mummy', 'Supergirl'.


The decision to create an expanded OST presentation instead of a complete score leaves me giddy. I have said in numerous threads that almost all of Goldenthal's scores work best in an album presentation, where the score is free to be condensed into various suites to create an experience separate from the film, even at the cost of chronological ordering if it results in better flow (I remember this was one of your complaints regarding "The Last Samurai").

Goldenthal and Zimmer, in both cases I prefer them out of order, arranged for album listening. Far better experience, very true.


P.S: As an aside I love the way you've edited and structured your opening post so not only do all three of you get to say your piece, but it's broken up nicely by the different fonts and colours, as well as heidl and Sonic's stellar cover designs. It's not only visually pleasing but very easy to read and identify who's talking. Funnily enough, the different fonts and colours project a different voice in my head when reading. I'm sure a psych major would have a field day with that observation.

Really?? I think the post looks cluttered, messy and tacky. I still don�t like it. Might be informative, but it�s ugly.

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I noticed you mentioning all those backs, inlays and labels. Well those are entirely Sonic's works! Of course you couldn't have known this, but I have to pass the praise along to him.

I already planned not to say anything - but now you did. Du Opfer ;)

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Thank you Sonic and Team for this fine piece of work. I have the original cd album, but haven't listened to it in well over 10 years, so this is going to be a great opportunity to rediscover it with the additional cues as a bonus :)

Same here. And it�s true, Fink has been thinking about it for quite some time after he saw it in our basement. I have to admit, even I was surprised that I banned it to the basement. I recently found among many, many CDs masterpieces like 'Dracula'... and several Goldsmith titles like... erm... 'Mr. Baseball'. I wonder what got into me...

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Hm, I thought it were mostly belt sanders, chainsaws and jackhammers.

True. And the aformentioned collection of other (better) composers/musicians.

I already planned not to say anything - but now you did. Du Opfer ;)

Hey ich habs nicht notwendig mich mit fremden Federn zu schm�cken!


Same here. And it�s true, Fink has been thinking about it for quite some time after he saw it in our basement. I have to admit, even I was surprised that I banned it to the basement. I recently found among many, many CDs masterpieces like 'Dracula'... and several Goldsmith titles like... erm... 'Mr. Baseball'. I wonder what got into me...

Do you mean 'Bram Stoler's Dracula' by Kilar? You won't make a Deluxe Edition for that one by chance, will you!?

Hey ich habs nicht notwendig mich mit fremden Federn zu schm�cken!

Ich wei�. Aber ich habe dankbar die Gelegenheit f�r Jugendsprache genutzt. Und der Ausdruck "Jugendsprache" hat jetzt verraten, dass ich alt geworden bin. Fuck ;)

(I just told him an extremely funny joke. Now that I think of it... Heidl actually is a cover making robot lacking any form of humour :D. So he doesn�t laugh, always very earnest, making an earnest face. Grumpy Cove... erm, Guy)


Do you mean 'Bram Stoler's Dracula' by Kilar? You won't make a Deluxe Edition for that one by chance, will you!?

No, I won�t. (But I�ve looked at designs, pictures, etc. ;))

Thank you Sonic, I cracked it with your advice. Wonderful share, as always! You are a big part of what makes this Forum so great.

P.S I would love you to have a go at Titus!

Thanks Glassbutterfleis for all those words.

I noticed you mentioning all those backs, inlays and labels. Well those are entirely Sonic's works! Of course you couldn't have known this, but I have to pass the praise along to him.

In general I haven't been involved in this Anniversary Edition as much as the original post might suggest. All I did was knock out a few(!) simple front covers and sent them to Sonic via facebook. When it comes to effort and time intensity, our Mulan Deluxe Edition was way more ambitious and laborious on my part. I've easily spent 2 whole weeks on that one, while for FF it was merely a couple of hours.

I just wanted to clarify that. Nonetheless I'm happy for everyone who enjoys it. I certainly do.

Ah, well thanks for the clarification. In that case, I take back everything I said ;).


First of all, GlassButterflies: you beauty. What a lovely, detailed post. I love love love to read stuff like this, this is why I want to release anything I do. To get those responses. People explaining themselves, writing their opinions, starting a discussion.

Me too. That's why I don't get people who aren't into constructive criticism; do you seriously put in all this effort in releasing a product and only want to hear "Thanks" and "Good job" at the end? I want details! Tell me why you liked it, what didn't you like, what could be improved. If I were more musically affluent I'd let you know what I though of your mastering effort but I don't know squat about staging, artifacts, gains, etc.


Judging by what Heidl wrote below, I think I spent way more hours on the cover. And I admit, in the end, I couldn�t see them anymore, I just wanted it to be finished.

However, the releases with the biggest amount of work were 'Star Trek: The Motion Picture' (don�t try my Edition, it has been succeeded by LLLs version... which is a bit lackluster but still better), 'Spiderman 3', 'Mummy Returns'. The first two cases took so long because the material I had to use was crap, the last was difficult regarding dynamics. The most proud of... difficult. I'd rather say the ones I still listen to: 'King Kong', 'Mulan', 'Indy 4', both Harry Potters, 'Maleficent', 'Dreamcatcher', 'What Lies Beneath', 'The Hunger Games: Highlights', 'Salt', 'Superman Returns', both Bournes, 'X-Men 3', 'Mimic', 'From Hell', 'Basic Instinct', 'I know what you did last summer', 'Tintin'. Those are the ones I regularly listen to.

Huh, I haven't heard of a bunch of these, guess I better go have a lo-


Don�t have a look for all of them, 5 have never been released (because they�re Varese or redundant).

...


I�d love to do again - some time - 'Jurassic Park', 'Van Helsing', 'The Mummy', 'Supergirl'.

I understand Van Helsing, since you seemed disappointed with your final result. I'm only started listening to your work on "The Mummy" in the past two weeks, and it sounds great, but what do I know? By the way, was you changing the name of the final battle cue in "The Mummy Returns" to "Everyone Fights" a subtle nod to "Van Helsing" or just a happy coincidence (seeing as there is a track called just that in "Van Helsing")?


Goldenthal and Zimmer, in both cases I prefer them out of order, arranged for album listening. Far better experience, very true.

If I liked Zimmer I'm sure I'd agree with you.


Really?? I think the post looks cluttered, messy and tacky. I still don�t like it. Might be informative, but it�s ugly.[COLOR="Silver"]

I love me some over-edited posts (just look at this one). My posts on the custom covers thread generally take longer to edit than to write. Everything needs to look pretty and stand out.

By the way, two things I'd like to say now that I've given your edition a spin: great job on the track names. Another problem I have with expanded presentations is that clever naming schemes on the OST are often thrown out the window in complete presentations. Goldenthal in particular likes to give fancy, avant-garde names to his tracks with technical musical terms and latin phrases. Not only do these new tracks have nice, catchy names, they don't stick out like a sore thumb compared to the OST track names. Plus I feel more learned looking up what each new Latin phrase means ("In Somnis Veritas" is a pretty clever title, considering the film).

Second, it this probably isn't your fault Sonic since I don't think you listen to much Goldenthal, but you failed to include the neat little reference to "Alien�" at the end of the "Sixth Spirit" cue. Unacceptable! For those not in the know, both Goldenthal himself and many of his fans consider "Alien�" to be his magnum opus, and he likes to put little nods to it in most of his works (see the "Vengeance" cue from "Titus" or half the track titles in "Sphere").

Thank you for your great job.
It's a pleasure to listen this album.

This is a significantly better listening experience than the sessions. Thank you very much for your hard work!

Wow, for me, this is the best share in 2016 so far.
Thank you very, very much guys. Kudos to Fink, SonicAdventure, and heidl.
Thank you so much for all your efforts and hard work you always put into your projects. I'm impressed as usual.
Fantastic audio quality (thanks a bunch for 24/48) and amazing covers!

You did a great job here, guys! Thank you.
+rep for all you (although Sonic cannot accept any points anymore)

Now that I think of it... Heidl actually is a cover making robot lacking any form of humour :D

Well I certainly do feel like that sometimes..



Second, it this probably isn't your fault Sonic since I don't think you listen to much Goldenthal, but you failed to include the neat little reference to "Alien�" at the end of the "Sixth Spirit" cue. Unacceptable! For those not in the know, both Goldenthal himself and many of his fans consider "Alien�" to be his magnum opus, and he likes to put little nods to it in most of his works (see the "Vengeance" cue from "Titus" or half the track titles in "Sphere").

What Alien3 reference? That sounds interesting.

Thank you Sonic, I cracked it with your advice. Wonderful share, as always! You are a big part of what makes this Forum so great.

P.S I would love you to have a go at Titus!

Well, it�s Varese. And the sessions aren�t that much different from the OST considering the number of titles left off.

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Me too. That's why I don't get people who aren't into constructive criticism; do you seriously put in all this effort in releasing a product and only want to hear "Thanks" and "Good job" at the end? I want details! Tell me why you liked it, what didn't you like, what could be improved. If I were more musically affluent I'd let you know what I though of your mastering effort but I don't know squat about staging, artifacts, gains, etc.

I love criticism! How else could I learn, improve myself? I�ve said it often: I do these Editions anyway, usually for scores I like. The decision to share them has only to do with my ego that wants to be stroked. When I started to release them here in this comparably big community (the community I was before was a lot smaller), the feedback was tremendous. And over the years people have been voicing their concerns. I don�t listen to everything but to most. In short, I�ve learned so much!


I understand Van Helsing, since you seemed disappointed with your final result. I'm only started listening to your work on "The Mummy" in the past two weeks, and it sounds great, but what do I know? By the way, was you changing the name of the final battle cue in "The Mummy Returns" to "Everyone Fights" a subtle nod to "Van Helsing" or just a happy coincidence (seeing as there is a track called just that in "Van Helsing")?

Van Helsing is a score that would benefit from less music, too. The sound is not the worst but when I try to listen to my set it gets tedious after a while. So the OST with an addition of 2-3 tracks would be enough, I think. And 'Everyone Fights' was Finks idea, I think. At least he complained that the track title I�ve chosen wasn�t very clever. And he was right so I changed it, he also reminded me that there is a similar titled track on 'Van Helsing'.


By the way, two things I'd like to say now that I've given your edition a spin: great job on the track names. Another problem I have with expanded presentations is that clever naming schemes on the OST are often thrown out the window in complete presentations. Goldenthal in particular likes to give fancy, avant-garde names to his tracks with technical musical terms and latin phrases. Not only do these new tracks have nice, catchy names, they don't stick out like a sore thumb compared to the OST track names. Plus I feel more learned looking up what each new Latin phrase means ("In Somnis Veritas" is a pretty clever title, considering the film).

Does he really use latin phrases? His titles are usually Italian (Adagio, Toccata, for example) so while I think that "In Somnis Veritas" was a nice idea I don�t think he would have used something like that (for me it sticks up like a sore thumb). And regarding the track titles Goldenthal himself chose: I have a feeling he didn�t lik the movie that much. I mean "Blue Light"... a too simple title for the (esoteric) heart of the movie, Gaia, so it reminded me of a particular sequence in 'Rambo III'. Or titles like "The Kiss", really all very simple and descriptive. And he has a knack for ironic titles -> "Batterd�mmerung". Apart from the obvious Wagner and Bat references, it has two other meanings: "Batter" is, of course, a word for beating someone up, it also is slang for jizz. So he could have been equally ironic for FF.


Second, it this probably isn't your fault Sonic since I don't think you listen to much Goldenthal, but you failed to include the neat little reference to "Alien�" at the end of the "Sixth Spirit" cue. Unacceptable! For those not in the know, both Goldenthal himself and many of his fans consider "Alien�" to be his magnum opus, and he likes to put little nods to it in most of his works (see the "Vengeance" cue from "Titus" or half the track titles in "Sphere").

Well, Fink left it off (and I didn�t notice as I don�t know Alien�) and he might have had good reasons to do so. Just like me, he hates redundancy... anyway, he can answer it himself :) Apart from the movie I�ve never listened to Alien� and judging from the music within the movie, it might either be a beautiful or tedious listening experience. But I�m certainly no expert for that score.

Well, thanks for those who dare to answer :)

Thanks for the constructed and insighful answers of GlassButterflies, this is more than welcome.
Considering "Everyone fights", yes it was my idea and indeed a reference to 'Van Helsing'.

And about the nod to "Alien 3" at the end of "The Sixth Spirit" i have to say i didn't keep the sessions, so i won't be able to hear what you mean. I guess I had a reason to erase the end of this track, especially if i kept the rest of it. And i really like "Alien 3" so that s even more strange that i didn't keep it. Well, now i ll have to check this i m curious!

OMG YES!!! What a true treat. Such an amazing score. I first saw the film a couple years ago, and I for one, actually really liked it. The score of course, is simply epic. I even like the song!
It is tremendously exciting to see you all working together in partnership. Truly a great outcome to see from this community. Making art together and honoring great music from years past. Can't wait to dig into this new edition. Thanks to all of you!

You have done a fantastic work, guys!
Thank you so much!

So far, all i can read is praise for this thread but still it only gets 3 stars... Someone who is NOT happy with it must have given it the lowest rating to equal out my 5 stars. Rather cowardly then not to give the feedback on what was not good.

Wait! It can't be a personal reason that has nothing to do with the music, can it? Nah, we don't do that sh*t here at the shrine, do we? Do we!?

Very true Calidoran! People are allowed to hate what we ve done but i d love to read why they didn't like it, truly. And personal reasons, yes indeed it s impossible! ^^

Thank you to all of you three! :)

Thanks for the constructed and insighful answers of GlassButterflies, this is more than welcome.
Considering "Everyone fights", yes it was my idea and indeed a reference to 'Van Helsing'.

I knew it! You cheeky, clever devil.



What Alien3 reference? That sounds interesting.


Well, Fink left it off (and I didn�t notice as I don�t know Alien�) and he might have had good reasons to do so. Just like me, he hates redundancy... anyway, he can answer it himself :) Apart from the movie I�ve never listened to Alien� and judging from the music within the movie, it might either be a beautiful or tedious listening experience. But I�m certainly no expert for that score.


And about the nod to "Alien 3" at the end of "The Sixth Spirit" i have to say i didn't keep the sessions, so i won't be able to hear what you mean. I guess I had a reason to erase the end of this track, especially if i kept the rest of it. And i really like "Alien 3" so that s even more strange that i didn't keep it. Well, now i ll have to check this i m curious!

I never heard anyone mention the "Alien�" connection before, including in reviews for the score (even Filmtracks, which usually pick up on this kind of thing). Makes me feel all special like. On the sessions, the cue "Sixth Spirit", where Aki and Sid have a brief talk about things such as scientific persecution (Sid mentions Galileo and his belief that the Earth wasn't the centre of the earth) before burning his journal. In the last 30 seconds, there is a nice piano statement of the theme that appears prominently at the start of "Lento" (it can also be heard in "Adagio" and other cues from "Alien�").



Van Helsing is a score that would benefit from less music, too. The sound is not the worst but when I try to listen to my set it gets tedious after a while. So the OST with an addition of 2-3 tracks would be enough, I think. And 'Everyone Fights' was Finks idea, I think. At least he complained that the track title I�ve chosen wasn�t very clever. And he was right so I changed it, he also reminded me that there is a similar titled track on 'Van Helsing'.

Admittedly, "Van Helsing" does get quite redundant in parts but the secondary motifs for Dracula, the brides, Frankenstein, etc. are so delicious that it doesn't bother me too much. Plus the love theme, which closes out the score beautifully in "Reunited", what an unexpected but poignant way to end the score. I considered "The Mummy Returns", "Van Helsing" and "Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle Of Life" to be a trilogy of sorts for Silvestri, they make great companion pieces to one another and in my opinion is Silvestri at his action/fantasy best.


Does he really use latin phrases? His titles are usually Italian (Adagio, Toccata, for example) so while I think that "In Somnis Veritas" was a nice idea I don�t think he would have used something like that (for me it sticks up like a sore thumb). And regarding the track titles Goldenthal himself chose: I have a feeling he didn�t lik the movie that much. I mean "Blue Light"... a too simple title for the (esoteric) heart of the movie, Gaia, so it reminded me of a particular sequence in 'Rambo III'. Or titles like "The Kiss", really all very simple and descriptive. And he has a knack for ironic titles -> "Batterd�mmerung". Apart from the obvious Wagner and Bat references, it has two other meanings: "Batter" is, of course, a word for beating someone up, it also is slang for jizz. So he could have been equally ironic for FF.

He does! Although he mainly uses Italian phrases, but most Italian words have direct Latin roots, yeah? "Agnus Dei" from "Alien�" is one example. He'll also just straight up makes names up, usually by combining two words together ("Batterd�mmerung" like you said, but also "Appellatron" and "Scytheoplicity" from "In Dreams", whatever the hell those mean). I guess it's possible to use the track titles to gauge a composer's interest (or disinterest) in a film, but be careful: as you said Goldenthal likes ironic titles almost as much as Giacchino likes puns. Doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't like the film, remember he previously scored "Sphere" and "Demolition Man" by this point. "The Spirits Within" is a understated masterpiece compared to those two. Speaking of, "Sphere" is probably Goldenthal at his most schizophrenic when it comes to track names: beautifully elaborate titles such as "Terror Adagio" & "Manifest Fire", right next to some that make "Blue Light" sound downright mysterious and exciting by comparison, such as "Wave", "Water Snake" & "Event Entry 6-21-43" (bleh). He is also sometimes a bit lazy when it comes to reusing terms; I think more than half of his scores have a track called "Adagio" somewhere in them.


So far, all i can read is praise for this thread but still it only gets 3 stars... Someone who is NOT happy with it must have given it the lowest rating to equal out my 5 stars. Rather cowardly then not to give the feedback on what was not good.

Wait! It can't be a personal reason that has nothing to do with the music, can it? Nah, we don't do that sh*t here at the shrine, do we? Do we!?

What a shame. Generally we're all pretty nice to each other, although every now and then we get some ugly spats and some peoples true colours are revealed (particular when there is a mass leak of recording sessions, of which we've had several).

So far, all i can read is praise for this thread but still it only gets 3 stars... Someone who is NOT happy with it must have given it the lowest rating to equal out my 5 stars. Rather cowardly then not to give the feedback on what was not good.

Wait! It can't be a personal reason that has nothing to do with the music, can it? Nah, we don't do that sh*t here at the shrine, do we? Do we!?

Maybe Goldenthal himself, who doesn't want to give himself away, yet at the same time, make a bold statement. Who knows...

Thank you share!

So far, all i can read is praise for this thread but still it only gets 3 stars... Someone who is NOT happy with it must have given it the lowest rating to equal out my 5 stars. Rather cowardly then not to give the feedback on what was not good.

Wait! It can't be a personal reason that has nothing to do with the music, can it? Nah, we don't do that sh*t here at the shrine, do we? Do we!?

Numerous reasons really. Maybe he/she doesn�t like that it isn�t complete. I call those guys "20-seconds-guys", guys who always want every tiny little second of any score released. It�s not an expression I take too serious, just a humorous personal way of thinking. Still, IMO, those people aren�t interested in the music, they want it complete for completeness' sake.

But really, if someone doesn�t like releases I myself do, or releases created in collaboration with others, it�s not a problem. Though I don�t view anything I do as artistic, those Editions are still my babies. But I - as any artist/employee/engineer - have to anticipate that something like this is going to happen. So no worries. One cannot make everyone happy.

A few weeks ago someone offered me the sessions for 'The Mummy' by Goldsmith because I�d just released my Edition for 'The Mummy Returns'. Since I might re-do 'The Mummy' and because I was hoping to use a better quality the 2nd time, I accepted. Guess what, those "sessions" were nothing more than my Deluxe Edition from 2012. Someone took all the tracks apart, following the sheets, creating new tracks. But everything came from my set. That person even went as far as adding stage ambience to hide the numerous edits he did. A frequency comparison to my own set revealed that they were one and the same. And THAT is what I truly hate: people ripping other people off for some personal gain, out of greed, whatever, showcasing questionable moral standards along the way.

So whoever it was that started to pass so called "sessions" for 'The Mummy' around is a lying bitch.

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Very true Calidoran! People are allowed to hate what we ve done but i d love to read why they didn't like it, truly. And personal reasons, yes indeed it s impossible! ^^

I second that. If someone doesn�t like something, he/she should explain why.

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Admittedly, "Van Helsing" does get quite redundant in parts but the secondary motifs for Dracula, the brides, Frankenstein, etc. are so delicious that it doesn't bother me too much. Plus the love theme, which closes out the score beautifully in "Reunited", what an unexpected but poignant way to end the score. I considered "The Mummy Returns", "Van Helsing" and "Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle Of Life" to be a trilogy of sorts for Silvestri, they make great companion pieces to one another and in my opinion is Silvestri at his action/fantasy best.

Yes, the redundancy is what tires me. But speaking about this triumvirate of scores: I�d just love to have a go at 'Tomb Raider: Cradle of Life'!


He does! Although he mainly uses Italian phrases, but most Italian words have direct Latin roots, yeah? "Agnus Dei" from "Alien�" is one example. He'll also just straight up makes names up, usually by combining two words together ("Batterd�mmerung" like you said, but also "Appellatron" and "Scytheoplicity" from "In Dreams", whatever the hell those mean). I guess it's possible to use the track titles to gauge a composer's interest (or disinterest) in a film, but be careful: as you said Goldenthal likes ironic titles almost as much as Giacchino likes puns. Doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't like the film, remember he previously scored "Sphere" and "Demolition Man" by this point. "The Spirits Within" is a understated masterpiece compared to those two. Speaking of, "Sphere" is probably Goldenthal at his most schizophrenic when it comes to track names: beautifully elaborate titles such as "Terror Adagio" & "Manifest Fire", right next to some that make "Blue Light" sound downright mysterious and exciting by comparison, such as "Wave", "Water Snake" & "Event Entry 6-21-43" (bleh). He is also sometimes a bit lazy when it comes to reusing terms; I think more than half of his scores have a track called "Adagio" somewhere in them.

Well, maybe he calls those tracks "Adagio" because it describes what they are: Adagios ;)

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Maybe Goldenthal himself, who doesn't want to give himself away, yet at the same time, make a bold statement. Who knows...

I often have the feeling that some composers are lurking here. But if I would be them, I would hide all the same. Revealing themselves might not be the best thing for future official soundtrack releases.

Thank you very much.

A few weeks ago someone offered me the sessions for 'The Mummy' by Goldsmith because I�d just released my Edition for 'The Mummy Returns'. Since I might re-do 'The Mummy' and because I was hoping to use a better quality the 2nd time, I accepted. Guess what, those "sessions" were nothing more than my Deluxe Edition from 2012. Someone took all the tracks apart, following the sheets, creating new tracks. But everything came from my set. That person even went as far as adding stage ambience to hide the numerous edits he did. A frequency comparison to my own set revealed that they were one and the same. And THAT is what I truly hate: people ripping other people off for some personal gain, out of greed, whatever, showcasing questionable moral standards along the way.

What the what? That's equal parts baffling, hilarious and frustrating.


Yes, the redundancy is what tires me. But speaking about this triumvirate of scores: I�d just love to have a go at 'Tomb Raider: Cradle of Life'!

I'd love to see it, but I don't think anything outside the OST was ever released?

I always was under the impression that Tomb Raider OST has all the good parts already. Was more interested in Armstrong rejected material.

Wow, this score seems to pretty unpopular judging by what seems to be a lukewarm response. Sony should never re-release it, they would probably make a loss :(

... just a thought:

Perhaps some miss this because of the thread title? I know i scroll quickly through what's new and since SOME feel the need to thank Bart Oss in EVERY single thread he starts (which is many), it gets pretty tiresome to wade through page after page where that user says thank you (yes, you know who you are, either you are hired by Bart Oss to do that or you could just marry him ;)

Anyway, i just thought it would be easier to spot it if the thread title was different

Elliot Goldenthal / Final Fantasy (Deluxe Edition) - presented by HEIDL & FINK & SONIC

instead of

HEIDL & FINK & SONIC present: Elliot Goldenthal / Final Fantasy (Deluxe Edition)

Keep up the good work anyway :) all of you

I've never seen the movie, but this is, as ever, an epic and gorgeous-sounding album you've all put together. Love me some Goldenthal sometimes. What I wouldn't give for an expanded release of his "Michael Collins" score.

I m still hoping for "Michael Collins" sessions to surface too :)

I'd love to see it, but I don't think anything outside the OST was ever released?

I don�t think so. Maybe in the future...

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Perhaps some miss this because of the thread title? I know i scroll quickly through what's new and since SOME feel the need to thank Bart Oss in EVERY single thread he starts (which is many), it gets pretty tiresome to wade through page after page where that user says thank you (yes, you know who you are, either you are hired by Bart Oss to do that or you could just marry him ;)

Anyway, i just thought it would be easier to spot it if the thread title was different

Elliot Goldenthal / Final Fantasy (Deluxe Edition) - presented by HEIDL & FINK & SONIC

instead of

HEIDL & FINK & SONIC present: Elliot Goldenthal / Final Fantasy (Deluxe Edition)

Good suggestion. I�ve just written a message to Sparkly, I hope he can change it. And I�m curious to see if something happens.

So I'd like to return with some fuller and better commentary after hearing this edition a couple of times, for it is truly a remarkable piece of work that obviously had a lot of effort poured into it. It feels like a passion project, a passion with which I certainly can agree.

For me, this was one of the biggest surprises originally in all of my film music listening years, because I was one of those Final Fantasy fans who was dissapointed and frankly rather surprised Nobuo Uematsu didn't get the job. Sadly, little 14-year old me didn't know heck about film scoring in general, and thus couldn't understand that Nobuo simply wasn't the right choice to score something like this. Whilst I love his music, he also did Advent Children, and well... let's just say I hate hate HATE that score with a passion (the metal version of One Winged Angel is the greatest atrocity ever commited by a composer on his own work. Shame on you, Mr. Uematsu).

Anyway, back to The Spirits Within. 14-year old me listened to it. And again. And again. And propably some more times because I could not understand what this music was. It was epic but atonal, it had no sense of rhythm, there was no apparent heroism, no hummable themes. It was this big bloated mess of elements that I used to like used in strange and alien ways. Needless to say, 14-year old me hated it with a passion. I wanted Nobuo, and instead got this no name Elliot whoever-the-heck-he-thinks-he-is, completely shitting over my favourite franchise in the history of franchises.

How wrong... oh how wrong can a person be?

If I could swallow those thoughts, spit them out and swallow them again, I would. A few years, some experience and some musical knowledge later, and this thing, this thing I hated so much turned into one of the biggest, baddest, most awe-inspiring technical and creative masterpieces I have ever heard performed on film. I can think of no score that can come close to the scale of this monster of a soundtrack, a victim of being attached to such an overlooked movie (I think that is a grandiose understatement even). I listen to it again, 13 years later, and I feel inspired. I feel inspired by what can only be described as almost a lost art; making a score into a symphony, making it more than just an accompaniement to a film. The score stands the test of time, the tests of multiple listening sessions, because it is layered. It is multi-dimensional. It's technically challenging and yet strangely satisfying. It is a score that has to be heard on big speakers, eyes closed, perhaps even without the film. The music is good enough to easily stand on it's own.

For years, I've had the CD at home. It is a good CD, sounding very good, being a great listening experience. But somehow, I always wanted to hear more, more, more of this music. There was more, in the form of bootlegs and DVD-audio rips, riddled with bad sound and FX, worse transitions and a jumbled musical narrative. In other words, no matter how much I wanted to hear more music from this, I was always let down. This is not to say that those who made those bootlegs weren't good. For years, they were heroes because they at least tried to make it more complete. So to those who made the bootlegs, thank you for all your hard work; it will not be forgotten.

For years, it seemed that an expanded edition would be nothing more than a faint dream. A faint dream I and many film music lovers shared. I didn't understand, why would no one step up and make this expanded edition? It seemed so logical as this score seems to be so popular among score collectors. For years, numerous beautiful expanded editions of many soundtracks came by, but I always waited. Waited for this one. But for a long time... nothing.

So therefore, I humbly thank those who made this possible. Fink, Heidl and SonicAdventure, and of course those who shared the sessions. What I always thought would stay one of those holy grails of film music history suddenly, out of knowhere, become a reality. It is almost impossible to tell you guys how happy I am, not because we finally have an expanded edition, but because I feel this is what the Shrine stands for. This is what makes this site so great, so awesome, and you guys reminded me of that. You guys went out of your way to give us an edition that not only sounds professional, it also looks professional. There is no need for an official release anymore; this is that good. I love the great covers Heidl made, especially the white one. It is much better than that atrocious original cover, seriously. You did one heck of a job.

Then there's Fink: great job on the editing man! I love how you kept the general flow just right; how you gave up redundant parts in favour of what has become a great listening experience. It isn't jarring for one bit, even after hearing the original CD for years. Great, great job!

And Sonic, I do not always agree on your sound, but this release is one where I can legitimately say that the sound is better than the original, which is saying something because the original already sounded great. It is beautifully wide, just loud enough, and above all; it sounds big without the distortion of the CD. Thank you for that.

This post is already too long, so I'm going to end here. Thank you guys for making a dream a reality. For making an already awesome soundtrack release even more awesome. And thank you for being exactly what the Shrine stands for; a platform to discover music alongside those who love it, music to be heard, to be enjoyed, to be shared.

Thank you!

This is truly outstanding ...

I do agree that changing the post title might help to get it a little more attention, hopefully. When I was running through the feed I saw it and was like "what the hell is this, all these big bolded words?!" In fact, I'd first seen Heidl's announcement through facebook, so went scouring to find the actual forum thread, and initially missed it completely! Just a thought.
Thanks again, what a team! It seriously feels almost like getting an official album release, stellar presentation of the post itself too, great to hear thoughts from everyone involved in the making-of.

The usernames could have been amphasized in the post itself.

Fast reading through the first page of threads, "Heidl" doesn't sound like a composer I know or look out for, nor does it sound like a movie title I'm aware of or looking out for, so I immediately skip it.

If Sonic was the first word, I'd probably skip it on default, as nothing "Sonic" has shown up in recent history of Hollywood worth noting.
If this was the VGM section, I'd think Sonic The Hedgehog.

But none of the names really strike me as something.

Fink, maybe. Barton Fink, if I hadn't already grabbed the OST to that before.

But, yes, the composer and title is what people look for first.
Skimming is the easiest way to check through the forum for anything new.

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You might also want to consider how it will look on the main index page, when the thread gets bumped to "most_recent" post.
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25-26 characters visible?

The usernames could have been amphasized in the post itself.

Fast reading through the first page of threads, "Heidl" doesn't sound like a composer I know or look out for, nor does it sound like a movie title I'm aware of or looking out for, so I immediately skip it.

If Sonic was the first word, I'd probably skip it on default, as nothing "Sonic" has shown up in recent history of Hollywood worth noting.
If this was the VGM section, I'd think Sonic The Hedgehog.

But none of the names really strike me as something.

Fink, maybe. Barton Fink, if I hadn't already grabbed the OST to that before.

But, yes, the composer and title is what people look for first.
Skimming is the easiest way to check through the forum for anything new.

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You might also want to consider how it will look on the main index page, when the thread gets bumped to "most_recent" post.
(https://imgur.com/uGALFsE)
25-26 characters visible?

I�ve never even thought about that! You�re right, there�s the first page to consider. Gosh, my bad. BTW, I�ve just asked Jessie to change it. Let�s see if something happens.

And all of you are right: I wanted to stress the collaborative effort but completely forgot that the reason for collaboration was a score by a composer. So naturally, that one has to come first.

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So I'd like to return with some fuller and better commentary after hearing this edition a couple of times, for it is truly a remarkable piece of work that obviously had a lot of effort poured into it. It feels like a passion project, a passion with which I certainly can agree.

For me, this was one of the biggest surprises originally in all of my film music listening years, because I was one of those Final Fantasy fans who was dissapointed and frankly rather surprised Nobuo Uematsu didn't get the job. Sadly, little 14-year old me didn't know heck about film scoring in general, and thus couldn't understand that Nobuo simply wasn't the right choice to score something like this. Whilst I love his music, he also did Advent Children, and well... let's just say I hate hate HATE that score with a passion (the metal version of One Winged Angel is the greatest atrocity ever commited by a composer on his own work. Shame on you, Mr. Uematsu).

Anyway, back to The Spirits Within. 14-year old me listened to it. And again. And again. And propably some more times because I could not understand what this music was. It was epic but atonal, it had no sense of rhythm, there was no apparent heroism, no hummable themes. It was this big bloated mess of elements that I used to like used in strange and alien ways. Needless to say, 14-year old me hated it with a passion. I wanted Nobuo, and instead got this no name Elliot whoever-the-heck-he-thinks-he-is, completely shitting over my favourite franchise in the history of franchises.

How wrong... oh how wrong can a person be?

(...)

Then there's Fink: great job on the editing man! I love how you kept the general flow just right; how you gave up redundant parts in favour of what has become a great listening experience. It isn't jarring for one bit, even after hearing the original CD for years. Great, great job!

And Sonic, I do not always agree on your sound, but this release is one where I can legitimately say that the sound is better than the original, which is saying something because the original already sounded great. It is beautifully wide, just loud enough, and above all; it sounds big without the distortion of the CD. Thank you for that.

This post is already too long, so I'm going to end here. Thank you guys for making a dream a reality. For making an already awesome soundtrack release even more awesome. And thank you for being exactly what the Shrine stands for; a platform to discover music alongside those who love it, music to be heard, to be enjoyed, to be shared.

Thank you!

This is a very beautiful and lovely post. You really poured your heart out, didn�t you? It fills me with joy that any Edition of mine/others would elicit such emotional reactions.

And Heidl told me about people like you ;) He asked "Is this score worth the effort we put into it?" And then continued to explain that there were/are people who outright hate the movie and its score. Which I didn�t know. I saw the movie in cinemas, I bought the OST and the DVD (and just a few weeks ago, the Bluray) and while I can understand that people wouldn�t like the movie (it has many flaws) it never entered my mind in 15 years that someone wouldn�t like the score. To me, it has always been a classic. But then I already knew Goldenthal, who entered my musical mind with a bang in 1994 with 'Interview with a Vampire' ('Demolition Man' & 'Alien�' weren�t that much in my head).

So I�m really happy for this score that it was strong enough to convince you of its strenghts. And if a self-made Edition can trigger those emotions... just wow! I�m very glad, you like our Edition :)

Also stressing "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" would help. Again, given the name of this board, and all them video games... just to clarify.
In fact, I had just earlier this morning been searching again for this post using "spirits within" and didn't even come up.

Sorry guys, here's me pretending that I have anything actually relevant to contribute to this amazing release....

just my two bits. :-)

Also stressing "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" would help. Again, given the name of this board, and all them video games... just to clarify.
In fact, I had just earlier this morning been searching again for this post using "spirits within" and didn't even come up.

Sorry guys, here's me pretending that I have anything actually relevant to contribute to this amazing release....

just my two bits. :-)

Well, if we want to include all the names responsible for this release (which I insist on) the movies' subtitle has to go. Lack of space in the title, you see...

So I'd like to return with some fuller and better commentary after hearing this edition a couple of times, for it is truly a remarkable piece of work that obviously had a lot of effort poured into it. It feels like a passion project, a passion with which I certainly can agree.

(...)

Thank you!

What a wonderful piece. I love reading about the effect that a score can have on someone, and how there are many times where our favourite scores didn't always start off as the greatest in our minds. Sometimes appreciation grows with time, along with our experiences, our expectations, our tastes. This is what makes music such an incredible art form. Our tastes in films, literature and art changes over time, and so too does our taste in music.

Perhaps another thing to keep in mind, Sonic. These are the people whom you tire away for. Everytime you release a new Deluxe Edition or whatnot, there is a high chance that there is at least one person out there for whom this score is their absolute favourite. Many times it will be their favourite because of experiences like trakkboi's. Imagine having such a long history with a score you love, then along comes Mr Sonic to work his miracles and show us a side to our favourite orchestrations we never knew existed, but perhaps secretly wished did. You bring out the best in our favourite scores, and I hope trakkboi reminds you of that.

What a wonderful piece. I love reading about the effect that a score can have on someone, and how there are many times where our favourite scores didn't always start off as the greatest in our minds. Sometimes appreciation grows with time, along with our experiences, our expectations, our tastes. This is what makes music such an incredible art form. Our tastes in films, literature and art changes over time, and so too does our taste in music.

First - sorry for using this thread for what i'm about to say (since it's off topic). Second - a movie can be good and a score can be good, but when they complete each other, it's magic. I'll use the example of the movie Dragonheart for that. It's a nice enough movie and, well, almost a great score. I will not say they complete each other all the time, but some scenes and especially certain scenes... whoa, knocks the breath out of you. The scene where (spoiler alert)

Draco re-unites with his fellow dragons in the stars

is visually very impressive and the music accompanying that scene is heart-achingly beautiful, but combine the two and... (as i said) magic.

So for me, the movies and the scores that are close to perfect is a combination to reach the altitudes they would otherwise not quite reach. Which in my case might be a bit sad since i am sure there are scores i am missing out on.

Sorry for taking up space and being off topic. Just my two cents... :)

EDIT: I might just add that themed compilations is a great way of finding scores that you might otherwise miss

First - sorry for using this thread for what i'm about to say (since it's off topic). Second - a movie can be good and a score can be good, but when they complete each other, it's magic. I'll use the example of the movie Dragonheart for that. It's a nice enough movie and, well, almost a great score.

Jerry Goldsmith was supposed to write the score. He personally asked the director because Jerry loved the script so much. But then the directer changed and Jerry was gone, too ;)

What the what? That's equal parts baffling, hilarious and frustrating.

But somehow pretty awesome, isn't it?

Knowing that your own work draws circles in the world of film music fans and via detours even makes it back to yourself. That means that you've made youself a name far over the boundaries of this forum.


So I'd like to return with some fuller and better commentary after hearing this edition a couple of times, for it is truly a remarkable piece of work that obviously had a lot of effort poured into it. It feels like a passion project, a passion with which I certainly can agree. [...] I love the great covers Heidl made, especially the white one. It is much better than that atrocious original cover, seriously. You did one heck of a job.

Then there's Fink: great job on the editing man! I love how you kept the general flow just right; how you gave up redundant parts in favour of what has become a great listening experience. It isn't jarring for one bit, even after hearing the original CD for years. Great, great job!

And Sonic, I do not always agree on your sound, but this release is one where I can legitimately say that the sound is better than the original, which is saying something because the original already sounded great. It is beautifully wide, just loud enough, and above all; it sounds big without the distortion of the CD. Thank you for that.

This post is already too long, so I'm going to end here. Thank you guys for making a dream a reality. For making an already awesome soundtrack release even more awesome. And thank you for being exactly what the Shrine stands for; a platform to discover music alongside those who love it, music to be heard, to be enjoyed, to be shared.

Thank you!

Man, wow, I'm speechless by your truly heartfelt and honest response. Your reply alone was worth all the efforts we took (which weren't even that big on my side to be honest).


Fast reading through the first page of threads, "Heidl" doesn't sound like a composer I know or look out for, nor does it sound like a movie title I'm aware of or looking out for, so I immediately skip it.

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Also stressing "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" would help. Again, given the name of this board, and all them video games... just to clarify.
In fact, I had just earlier this morning been searching again for this post using "spirits within" and didn't even come up.

You're right, but this is also due to the shitty board search, which finds everything and anything, except the stuff you're actually looking for.

But somehow pretty awesome, isn't it?

Knowing that your own work draws circles in the world of film music fans and via detours even makes it back to yourself. That means that you've made youself a name far over the boundaries of this forum.

Well, since those sessions might be used for trading, they were created to purposefully fool others into giving something for these supposedly genuine sessions. And I simply don�t like something like this :)

Also trying out how it now looks on the first page - the thread title has been changed ;)

Also trying out how it now looks on the first page - the thread title has been changed ;)

Indeed, easier to see the important info. As opposed to the non-relevant info on who-made-what :-P just kidding (perhaps safest to add, only a matter of time before someone takes that the wrong way)

...perhaps safest to add, only a matter of time before someone takes that the wrong way

Ah don't worry. Our egos can handle it :)

Thanks guys!!

First - sorry for using this thread for what i'm about to say (since it's off topic). Second - a movie can be good and a score can be good, but when they complete each other, it's magic. I'll use the example of the movie Dragonheart for that. It's a nice enough movie and, well, almost a great score. I will not say they complete each other all the time, but some scenes and especially certain scenes... whoa, knocks the breath out of you. The scene where (spoiler alert)

Draco re-unites with his fellow dragons in the stars

is visually very impressive and the music accompanying that scene is heart-achingly beautiful, but combine the two and... (as i said) magic.

So for me, the movies and the scores that are close to perfect is a combination to reach the altitudes they would otherwise not quite reach. Which in my case might be a bit sad since i am sure there are scores i am missing out on.

Sorry for taking up space and being off topic. Just my two cents... :)

EDIT: I might just add that themed compilations is a great way of finding scores that you might otherwise miss

Oh, you're talking about "To The Stars"? Yeah man, that was a great track, and suited the scene very well. I think the scene also had more impact because the film, for the most part, is a buddy-cop comedy with action/adventure elements. Very weird combo, but sort of works in it's own fun way, and never really 100% serious. Then you get to that finale, and it hits you, not just because it was mostly lighthearted before, but because you got to see their weird but genuine relationship build up through the movie. Man, I kinda wanna rewatch "Dragonheart" now, been years since I've seen that.


Jerry Goldsmith was supposed to write the score. He personally asked the director because Jerry loved the script so much. But then the directer changed and Jerry was gone, too ;)

Considering poor old Jerry got rejected several times for scores throughout the 90's, I'm sure he was used to it. Besides, he's done several scores like "Dragonheart" throughout his career so I don't consider him missing out on this one a huge loss.


But somehow pretty awesome, isn't it?Knowing that your own work draws circles in the world of film music fans and via detours even makes it back to yourself. That means that you've made youself a name far over the boundaries of this forum.


Gives a more literal meaning to the term "trading circles", don't it?

What incredible work!

Thank you so much Sonic, Fink (and Heidl!)

Thanks a lot trakkboi! That s comments i love to read :)

Thanks all for your kind words! I want you all to know that I'm honored to be part of this community, because of you fine folks.

Many times I've heard lots of people complain about this forum on the internet, at different places. Complaints that, in regards to piracy, might be true, but I think any and all of these people miss the true purpose of this forum; to share stuff like this. Music which, otherwise, would never be heard in this way. Music that otherwise would be lost to the ages. Music that is grand, beautiful, miraculous. Too often do we take the existence of music for granted; things like Spotify and Deezer, however their good intent, do emphasize this behaviour in people. Music has become a commodity, a consumable product like everything else. Because of this, we often forgot who make the music, and what it takes to do so. I myself am only humbly learning that fact now, now that I myself am building a career as a film composer. It is difficult to make music, and yet it is even more difficult to see people not care about your efforts. Music that was created using sweat, blood and tears gets reduced to the flavour of the week. The hit of the day. Music gets treated like a factory product, but it is not. Music is often times the product of love, love that so often gets overlooked, but not here. That's what makes this forum special. That's what makes people like Sonic, Fink and Heidl special. They to this, without any charge, not to become famous, but to share the music they love, in the best possible way. I myself as a composer would feel honored if someone would go to such lengths for my music. I'm sure Goldenthal would feel the same if he knew.

So those people calling us pirates may be technically right, but they miss the big picture. Their vision being too narrow, they don't know what it is that we do over here. We share, and we discover. There are many albums I've bought because of this forum, albums that I would otherwise have never known. And I think that, ladies and gentlemen, corresponds wonderfully to the goal of that beautiful thing called the internet.

Title looks better. Much easier on the eyes when skimming thread titles now.

Looks classier when you guys humbly add your names last in the title, too.
Mmm, classy, indeed, chaps! (https://imgur.com/DkPYgZL)

Because it matches the rest of the forum adding the edition last.
This ain't a VS Deluxe or a Disney Deluxe, this is a HeFiSo Deluxe. :awsm:

Thank you very much, guys, for such a fantastic work in all fronts. It's just... superb.

Moments like this is why this place deserves much love.

Thanks all for your kind words! I want you all to know that I'm honored to be part of this community, because of you fine folks.

Many times I've heard lots of people complain about this forum on the internet, at different places. Complaints that, in regards to piracy, might be true, but I think any and all of these people miss the true purpose of this forum; to share stuff like this. Music which, otherwise, would never be heard in this way. Music that otherwise would be lost to the ages. Music that is grand, beautiful, miraculous. Too often do we take the existence of music for granted; things like Spotify and Deezer, however their good intent, do emphasize this behaviour in people. Music has become a commodity, a consumable product like everything else. Because of this, we often forgot who make the music, and what it takes to do so. I myself am only humbly learning that fact now, now that I myself am building a career as a film composer. It is difficult to make music, and yet it is even more difficult to see people not care about your efforts. Music that was created using sweat, blood and tears gets reduced to the flavour of the week. The hit of the day. Music gets treated like a factory product, but it is not. Music is often times the product of love, love that so often gets overlooked, but not here. That's what makes this forum special. That's what makes people like Sonic, Fink and Heidl special. They to this, without any charge, not to become famous, but to share the music they love, in the best possible way. I myself as a composer would feel honored if someone would go to such lengths for my music. I'm sure Goldenthal would feel the same if he knew.

So those people calling us pirates may be technically right, but they miss the big picture. Their vision being too narrow, they don't know what it is that we do over here. We share, and we discover. There are many albums I've bought because of this forum, albums that I would otherwise have never known. And I think that, ladies and gentlemen, corresponds wonderfully to the goal of that beautiful thing called the internet.

That's a very idealized point of view.

And while I generally agree with you, I'm afraid your arguments would never withstand in this money-driven, rotten music business.
Love is a wonderful thing, but I'm sure any manager, producer or agent agrees that singing about love and making tons of money with it is even better. Sadly.

Anyhow, if you're ever gonna need some cover art for your own compositions, I'm here. For free.

That's a very idealized point of view.

And while I generally agree with you, I'm afraid your arguments would never withstand in this money-driven, rotten music business.
Love is a wonderful thing, but I'm sure any manager, producer or agent agrees that singing about love and making tons of money with it is even better. Sadly.

Anyhow, if you're ever gonna need some cover art for your own compositions, I'm here. For free.

This is the equivalent of a Willy Wonka golden ticket, trakkboi. Use it wisely!

Numerous reasons really. Maybe he/she doesn�t like that it isn�t complete. I call those guys "20-seconds-guys", guys who always want every tiny little second of any score released. It�s not an expression I take too serious, just a humorous personal way of thinking. Still, IMO, those people aren�t interested in the music, they want it complete for completeness' sake.


That is some statement you make here.I as a completeness score fan want ofcourse every second from Jerry Goldsmith,every tiny bit even.And i listen to it.Those tiny bits are bits i want for years.
I,ve nothing against you personally,and you make what you think is great.Like a friend of me said opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

That is some statement you make here.I as a completeness score fan want ofcourse every second from Jerry Goldsmith,every tiny bit even.And i listen to it.Those tiny bits are bits i want for years.

If they�re interesting, yes. But if they�re boring and add nothing new to what came before or after, they�re gone.


I,ve nothing against you personally,and you make what you think is great.Like a friend of me said opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

LOL! And true.

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Thanks

Extremely grateful. Thank you.

Been listening to this now for many days and I just have to say bravo to all of you behind this awesome project. This is the version I've been dreaming of! It sounds fantastic and the edits and selections perfect, not to mention the beautiful covers!
This is truly a masterful production guys and I am forever grateful for your efforts here! Thank you so very, very much!

That's a very idealized point of view.

And while I generally agree with you, I'm afraid your arguments would never withstand in this money-driven, rotten music business.
Love is a wonderful thing, but I'm sure any manager, producer or agent agrees that singing about love and making tons of money with it is even better. Sadly.

Anyhow, if you're ever gonna need some cover art for your own compositions, I'm here. For free.

Wow, I haven't been on the forum for a couple of days with work and all, but seriously, thank you! I'll be sure to give you a pm when the time comes, as I am working on a project right now, I'll be sure to check back to you!

Wow, I haven't been on the forum for a couple of days with work and all, but seriously, thank you! I'll be sure to give you a pm when the time comes, as I am working on a project right now, I'll be sure to check back to you!

You also know who to ask when you want something to be mastered, I presume? ;)

Thanks to all of you for this.

You also know who to ask when you want something to be mastered, I presume? ;)

Haha, I'd love it! That is, if you've got the will to sit through my terrible mixing ;)

Seriously, I'll let you know once things are good. These are some very exciting times!

thank you

Sonic Adventure, Fink, Heidl thanks for your work on this project and for sharing it.

Really nice to have this score moulded in a presentation befitting its grandeur; "only" six hours of work... well, it deserves six hours of applause.... thanks to all!

Excellent work, as always. Thank you very much.

I'd really love a re-up/someone sharing a link!

I'd second the request for a re-up. Anyone, please?

me too :) ... would like to have the FLACs and the hiRes version

btw: SonicAdventure mentioned the master files in the original post... are these available as well?

Thx :)

I was so impressed with that film!

Many thanks !!!!

I've found a working download of the FLAC version, and have uploaded it to mega. Will try to get the Hi-Res version later in the day:

https://mega.nz/#!mIMHDSjJ!W2Hu40t37QT6vHKMAFtInTauyZnmMhKses7io-FjI7Q

SonicAdventure, Fink and Heidl deserve credit for the work they've done on this, so don't forget to say thanks to them.

I've found a working download of the FLAC version, and have uploaded it to mega. Will try to get the Hi-Res version later in the day:

https://mega.nz/#!mIMHDSjJ!W2Hu40t37QT6vHKMAFtInTauyZnmMhKses7io-FjI7Q

SonicAdventure, Fink and Heidl deserve credit for the work they've done on this, so don't forget to say thanks to them.

No, I have to thank you! I always love it when someone else re-uploads stuff I did. That's what sharing is :)

I've found a working download of the FLAC version, and have uploaded it to mega. Will try to get the Hi-Res version later in the day:

Just repeating the "thank you" I've already told you in our PM... looking forward to the HiRes version.


btw: To all the FF fans... AFAICS, the original recording sessions also miss a working link: Thread 200605
How could Sonic ever make a 20th Anniversary Edition, if he couldn't find the sources anymore?! ;-)

How could Sonic ever make a 20th Anniversary Edition, if he couldn't find the sources anymore?! ;-)

Well, it took me a while to ask Momonoki for the links. But eventually I did. Something like 12 hours after he posted the sessions.

Well, it took me a while to ask Momonoki for the links. But eventually I did. Something like 12 hours after he posted the sessions.

Well at least according to his posts:

NO LONGER SHARING LINKS. SOMEONE CAN POST A MIRROR IF THEY WANT
… but I guess if you ask someone a favour it has magnitudes more of impact than when a newcomer/noob as I do ;-)

Well at least according to his posts:

… but I guess if you ask someone a favour it has magnitudes more of impact than when a newcomer/noob as I do ;-)

Everyone starts small. I did, too :)

thanks

Great stuff thanks

:( No links work, reupload please? I lost my copy when my old computer went nuclear....

(nvm....)

The Mega link posted above still works, but that's just the flac version (thanks for sharing that link). Could somebody please re-post the hi-res versions too?

I second the notion for a reup of the 24 Bit version if anyone still has it. Thanks for resharing the FLAC version trakkboi and to SonicAdventure for bringing us this great release!

I would also love a re-up for the 24-bit version, but I must thank Sonic anyway.

Thanks Sonic for the original work on this, and thanks trakkboi for linking to the reup on MEGA!

Thank you!

Thanks and to original uploaders


I've found a working download of the FLAC version, and have uploaded it to mega. Will try to get the Hi-Res version later in the day:

https://mega.nz/#!mIMHDSjJ!W2Hu40t37QT6vHKMAFtInTauyZnmMhKses7io-FjI7Q

SonicAdventure, Fink and Heidl deserve credit for the work they've done on this, so don't forget to say thanks to them.[COLOR="Silver"]

I've found a working download of the FLAC version, and have uploaded it to mega. Will try to get the Hi-Res version later in the day:

https://mega.nz/#!mIMHDSjJ!W2Hu40t37QT6vHKMAFtInTauyZnmMhKses7io-FjI7Q

SonicAdventure, Fink and Heidl deserve credit for the work they've done on this, so don't forget to say thanks to them.
SonicAdventure, I am a HUGE fan. Thanks for all of your shares over the years. I have enjoyed every one of them! ;)

Heidl, I can't even begin. I love your work. I use your covers for as many soundtracks as I can. You, sir, are gifted! (Those Vanilla Sky covers, tho ;) )

And to trakkboi...you have kept the dream alive with this re-upload. Thanks! Your contribution is what makes this hobby/community so much fun!


Moving forward, if the re-upload ever disappears, you all just need to send me a PM and I will re-upload. ;)

Hi! Could someone share the link(s) for the 24-bit version?

Thanks for this :D

I'm glad trakkboi had the FLAC version, and thank you (reputation incoming). Was anyone able to track down the 24-bit version?

I've found a working download of the FLAC version, and have uploaded it to mega. Will try to get the Hi-Res version later in the day:

https://mega.nz/#!mIMHDSjJ!W2Hu40t37QT6vHKMAFtInTauyZnmMhKses7io-FjI7Q

SonicAdventure, Fink and Heidl deserve credit for the work they've done on this, so don't forget to say thanks to them.

Thankyou!

Thanks a bunch SonicAdventure, Fink and Heidl for all the work!!

And thanks trakkboi for the re-up!