Perhaps because Williams did not conduct? It feels less.....dramatic. Like a cover release.

He didn't conducted it? I thought he did just based on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjNfOhbzxfI&ab_channel=FilmScoreMedia


Zimmer and Williams working together, now that would have been something!!

Please don't make me puke

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Williams should go in retirement (like his friend Lucas), he has earned his fame ... he shouldn't do this anymore. His downfall could be pretty hard if he continues like this.

Really? You think he has something to demonstrate you at this point? Have you ever heard anything from Williams from the last decade?

Look, I listened again. I am not saying it is **bad**,but

**TFA: "Ok, it is gonna be fun...."

vs

ESB: Grabs audience by throat "Listen up, fuckers. Shit's gonna happen!!"

Just saying.
I Agree, There Is Some Good Music On TFA, But I Will Always Pick ESB Over Any Other SW CD.

I agree. The escape from Bespin is probably my favorite piece of action of music from any movie.

This, Carbon Freeze/Darth Vader's Trap/Depature of Boba Fett, Is Proberly I Favorite Track Of Any Star Wars Soundtrack

This, Carbon Freeze/Darth Vader's Trap/Depature of Boba Fett, Is Proberly I Favorite Track Of Any Star Wars Soundtrack

That extended sequence comes second after The Battle of Hoth/Asteroid Field for me.

That extended sequence comes second after The Battle of Hoth/Asteroid Field for me.

Asteroid Field Is A Good One, I Like That They Use It For The Star Tours Attraction In The Disney Parks.
The Battle Of Hoth, Is Another Indeed.

Yeah, the Asteroid Felix is great listening music for weaving in and out of traffic!

thanks a lot !!!

Yeah, the Asteroid Felix is great listening music for weaving in and out of traffic!

Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an traffic cone field is approximately 3720 to 1.

Really? You think he has something to demonstrate you at this point? Have you ever heard anything from Williams from the last decade?

Well, that's exactly the reason why I think he should retire.

Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an traffic cone field is approximately 3720 to 1.

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Ive seen lot of bashing on this forum. Zimmer if he had ended up here would have got his head put on a pike. But never thought i would see some williams bashing. How can you wish him to retire. Music is his life. People are so conservative they lack of respect for someone who has brought so many memorables themes... you should all thank him for that. And god damnt it see the movie before judging the god damn career of the guy! Give him a break he is 83 and has agreed to come back i dont think you would do the same

Ive seen lot of bashing on this forum. Zimmer if he had ended up here would have got his head put on a pike. But never thought i would see some williams bashing. How can you wish him to retire. Music is his life. People are so conservative they lack of respect for someone who has brought so many memorables themes... you should all thank him for that. And god damnt it see the movie before judging the god damn career of the guy! Give him a break he is 83 and has agreed to come back i dont think you would do the same

I have nothing but respect for Williams. Saying that he 'deserves' his well earned retirement, doesn't mean you're bashing him. Sure, music is his life. But I'd rather see his legacy passed on to a younger generation. It's obvious that TFA (and yes, I've seen the movie) lacks a good score... and I was a bit surprised by that. You've become so used to having a memorable score (good or bad aside) to a new SW movie, you're expecting nothing less. I was just so dissapointed... I felt it could've been so much more. All I'm saying is, TFA is a good movie no doubt, the score is not so much. Maybe it's time for another composer to take over the legacy, like Desplat is assigned for Rogue One.

Well just watched the movie, time to listen to this and compare. Did not want to do that the other way around.

Movie - well is was interesting and wonder what happens next

He didn't conducted it? I thought he did just based on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjNfOhbzxfI&ab_channel=FilmScoreMedia


Saw it today, end credits say it was conducted by Williams and William Ross, Orchestrations also by Williams and Ross. Additional Conductor was the Gustav something or other bloke.

I have to say that I really love the score. esp. Rey's theme. Shivers. It's still John Williams through and through. It feels a little bit like A New Hope's orchestration. Part of me thinks the score was kept sort of "open-ended" by Williams for future composers to not feel too burdened by really prominent anchor themes. I could totally be off the mark though. It seems as if with this score, there is a transitory element that could allow for someone new to come in, say Giacchino (though I hope Williams stays so badly). I adore this score and I think after seeing the movie, it will really solidify for me.

In reading interviews and seeing the 60 minutes score special, it seems as if JJ didn't really direct Williams; just said "do your thing" more or less. It looked as though he was hesitant to approach Williams with criticism and direction. Hell, who wouldn't be freaking out to work with a legend. I mean JW is totally a god, but I think Abrams could have shown more zeal with creating themes/input. Again, could be totally off. I'm not a tremendous Abrams fan (esp camera movement), but this film looks to be really good. Love this score. Will be listening to it much more today!!! New John Williams! How incredible.

I have nothing but respect for Williams. Saying that he 'deserves' his well earned retirement, doesn't mean you're bashing him. Sure, music is his life. But I'd rather see his legacy passed on to a younger generation. It's obvious that TFA (and yes, I've seen the movie) lacks a good score... and I was a bit surprised by that. You've become so used to having a memorable score (good or bad aside) to a new SW movie, you're expecting nothing less. I was just so dissapointed... I felt it could've been so much more. All I'm saying is, TFA is a good movie no doubt, the score is not so much. Maybe it's time for another composer to take over the legacy, like Desplat is assigned for Rogue One.

I'm 100% serious, the only other composer that has a similar style and capability is Michael Giacchino. He is the only other one. If anyone else is to compose Star Wars it needs to be him. I hear so much John Williams in his Medal of Honor scores. He is one of his main inspirations anyway.

I'm 100% serious, the only other composer that has a similar style and capability is Michael Giacchino. He is the only other one. If anyone else is to compose Star Wars it needs to be him. I hear so much John Williams in his Medal of Honor scores. He is one of his main inspirations anyway.

Yes, I totally agree, his MoH scores comes from the mindset of Williams and has his signature all over the place.

Do not discount Kevin Kiner Who Has been channeling Williams with new material a while now.

Kevin Kiner is no where near Giacchino in terms of musicality and new ideas. I am not familiar with Kiner, but from what I've heard, I'm not sold on that idea.

Jupiter Ascending, and all of the other scores he had composed this year proved that he has such a range of talent.

I am just saying Kiner wrote Clone Wars which had to marry existing music to new music and keep the style the same. I applaud his efforts. Though, Giacchino did succeed with JW....

does track "Follow Me" has some motives from Ant-Man theme? or something like that...

Kevin Kiner is no where near Giacchino in terms of musicality and new ideas. I am not familiar with Kiner, but from what I've heard, I'm not sold on that idea.

Jupiter Ascending, and all of the other scores he had composed this year proved that he has such a range of talent.

Exactly. That's why Disney approved Desplat for Rogue One without any prior association with the studio. ;P

Giacchino is as gifted a composer as Abrams is a director. Which is to say, not that gifted at all.

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The following is just on opnion and a very personal view. I respect other people their opinion as well.

But the modern trailer music on the star wars themes send the shivers down my spine. But the score does nothing with me at all. Though I am not a john williams fan he had made some great cues like duel of fates and battle of heroes and more. It has nothing to do with orchestral music since I like music like 'Pan', 'Lair', 'Outcast', 'Juipter ascending', X-men: Last Stand' The mixing and processing of the music sounds so...ancient.

This is clearly a great compliment for the score. Bravo Mr. Williams.

Movie was shit... not gonna spoil it for you but it�s just a retelling of A New Hope.... change Obi-Wan to Han Solo and bingo there�s your movie

stfu dickhead

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I'm 100% serious, the only other composer that has a similar style and capability is Michael Giacchino. He is the only other one. If anyone else is to compose Star Wars it needs to be him. I hear so much John Williams in his Medal of Honor scores. He is one of his main inspirations anyway.
I hate Giacchino's Star Trek scores...Jurassic World was good though.
I think David Arnold would be pretty good at Star Wars too.

I think people are really underrating this score though. I thought it was pretty great, especially the second half.

Giacchino is as gifted a composer as Abrams is a director. Which is to say, not that gifted at all.

Oooo... I strongly disagree, Michael Giacchino is the only other composer I've heard that sounds like John Williams.

Listen to "Schmerzen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1WPfxz0Jdo)" or "The Jet Aircraft Facility (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxZVyEwwSwg)" or "The Radar Train (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xulvBtTMfY)" if you don't believe me.

Saw it today, end credits say it was conducted by Williams and William Ross, Orchestrations also by Williams and Ross. Additional Conductor was the Gustav something or other bloke.
Gustavo Dudamel? Or was it Gustav Holst? XD

Thanks for the upload! Just saw the movie today, and I thought the music was brilliant!

Just came back from the movie... and holy shit. Couldn't be happier.
Loved it and the score worked perfectly for it.

AWESOME movie, and I agree. The music complemented the movie so well. Haters need to go see the movie, then earn a new found respect for it.

Huge cliffhanger ending to the movie though, lololol.

AWESOME movie, and I agree. The music complemented the movie so well. Haters need to go see the movie, then earn a new found respect for it.

Huge cliffhanger ending to the movie though, lololol.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Ha Ha Ha, just gibberish. Can't wait to see the movie, I'll love the music even more. :)

It is not life or death, 'tis just music. My saying I feel it is lacking...something is not "bashing". Besides, we all know the retail albums bite....

Oooo... I strongly disagree, Michael Giacchino is the only other composer I've heard that sounds like John Williams.

There's only one guy working the block right now who shares Williams' like-minded dramatic temperament and compositional skill, and that guy, of course, is Alexandre Desplat; the first Deathly Hallows score is testament enough to that.

There's only one guy working the block right now who shares Williams' like-minded dramatic temperament and compositional skill, and that guy, of course, is Alexandre Desplat; the first Deathly Hallows score is testament enough to that.

Okay, I agree with that, but can we now both agree that Alexandre Desplat and Michael Giacchino are the only composers that sound a lot like John Williams and only they can be his successors? You heard the tracks I linked to right? You agree?


It is not life or death, 'tis just music. My saying I feel it is lacking...something is not "bashing". Besides, we all know the retail albums bite....

You are right, to a point. But this, this is STAR WARS, and this, is John Williams, that's, the difference.

Une des choses que je toujours aim� � propos de Star Wars est qu'il utilise de bons th�mes d�mod�s qui sont m�morables. Donc, de nombreux cin�astes et compositeurs optent pour un score qui est efficace dans le contexte du film, mais pas particualrly noter si entendu sur son propre. Il est difficile d'argumenter contre un score qui fait son travail, mais la musique de Star Wars fait son travail, mais dans le m�me temps est capable de se tenir debout sur ses propres. Voil� ce qui fait un Star Wars Soundtrack un must-buy; les th�mes sont si m�morable et la replay value est si �lev� qu'il vaut chaque centime.

Avec �La Force Awakens", l�gendaire compositeur John Williams de retour pour la septi�me tranche de la saga. Th�me Rey est un qui se d�marque - sa sorte de bizarre pour commencer, mais construit dans quelque chose d'h�ro�que. Nous avons d'abord l'entendons dans la seconde piste, intitul� "Le tr�sor", mais il revient � plusieurs reprises tout au long de l'album.

Je remarquai aussi plusieurs th�mes cl�s des films originaux inclus. Bien s�r, le th�me principal qui ouvre chaque album Star Wars est l�; Je �galement rep�r� le th�me de travail (pensez Binary Sunset) ainsi que le th�me de Leia dans les derni�res pistes. Cette est merveilleux, car il contribue � combler les vieux films avec le nouveau ... la continuit� musicale tout au long de toute la saga est un aspect important qui permet � tout sentiment de film comme un autre chapitre d'une seule grande histoire �tant racont�e.

Comme nous allons de l'avant � partir d'ici, je suis optimiste pour la suite musicalement. Esp�rons que Williams sera de retour pour marquer les futurs �pisodes dans l'anthologie. Ensuite, il ya le film spin-off "Rogue One", qui sera marqu� par Alexandre Desplat, un compositeur de talent. Ce ne sera pas la premi�re fois Desplat vient dans une franchise inspir�e par le travail de Williams (Harry Potter). Il sera int�ressant d'entendre l'interpr�tation musicale de quelqu'un d'autre de la galaxie lointaine, tr�s lointaine .... il peut certainement �tre fait (les scores aux "Clone Wars" et "rebelles" des dessins anim�s sont assez comp�tents), mais il ne sera jamais Williams. Tout cela pour dire que M. Williams et sa musique sont aussi importants pour Star Wars comme tout autre composant, et je suis reconnaissant que, avec �La Force r�veille" nous avons un autre r�sultat �tonnant d'un de mes compositeurs pr�f�r�s

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…but can we now both agree that Alexandre Desplat and Michael Giacchino are the only composers that sound a lot like John Williams and only they can be his successors?

Giacchino lacks the technical skill of both Williams and Desplat, so no, I can't agree.

There are plenty of composers who can "sound" like Williams, but it's the thought, or lack of thought, behind the music which separates composers like Williams and Desplat from the rest of the pack. I'd sooner see someone like Bruce Broughton take over the reins. Now he has always been able to muster bona fide Williams-esque material, but he was put out to pasture over a decade ago, so there ain't a chance of him ever taking up the baton.

What a wonderful soundtrack! What a great, great music!
True, in comparison with the other Star Wars films, this time there are less new memorable themes, and this could be a letdown for some..
However, musically and orchestrationally it's among the best music for film in years!

how is there a debate about giacchino and desplat being potentially able to substitute john williams is beyond my understanding lol.
john is john. no one stands where he does in the film score realm. no one alive at least. it's not a matter of taste. it's a fact.
thank you lilu!

how is there a debate about giacchino and desplat being potentially able to substitute john williams is beyond my understanding lol.
john is john. no one stands where he does in the film score realm. no one alive at least. it's not a matter of taste. it's a fact.
thank you lilu!

Williams may be Williams, but he's also not the be all and end all. Besides, Desplat is signed composer for Rogue One, the first composer other than Williams to carry the Star Wars (theatrical) baton. It will be interesting to see if Desplat will be retained for the other stand-alones, just for consistency sake, or whether another composer will enter the fray.

Giacchino lacks the technical skill of both Williams and Desplat, so no, I can't agree.

There are plenty of composers who can "sound" like Williams, but it's the thought, or lack of thought, behind the music which separates composers like Williams and Desplat from the rest of the pack. I'd sooner see someone like Bruce Broughton take over the reins. Now he has always been able to muster bona fide Williams-esque material, but he was put out to pasture over a decade ago, so there ain't a chance of him ever taking up the baton.

Agree 100%. That's why I haven't been so enthusiastic about Giacchino (among other tentpole composers) as of late. His Jurassic World was hollow for me. Desplat's artistry is so present in his scores. Genuine feelings behind the work driving it. I'd love to see more of this with the upcoming generation of film composers

Thankyou for this.... typical Williams Star wars score- and as for anybody else scoring Star Wars....... well, Horner did an excellent job taking over from Goldsmith for Star Trek 2 and 3, but Star Wars is another matter...... I can't imagine anyone else scoring it..... though saying that John Ottman did a fair job taking on Williams' mantle when he scored Superman Returns.... a far better job than Ken Thorne ever did imho. And we mustn't fofet that dear old Kohn Williams is well over eighty years old now and to score such a monumental movie must put the pressure on the old chap....

This new score of Maestro Williams is great, full of emotion, beauty, subtleties, epic, powerful sound and fresh ideas. Although, is not as easier to listen to as previous scores for the saga. But I feel that give it a more interesting and modern aspect, since the style of Williams as evolved through the times.
I�ve not seen the movie yet but I imagine the score was conceived to nail the pace of the film. I guess, Williams learned from his experience with Episode 1 when the awful film editing cut badly most of the musical development. Is for that reason, from Episode 2 there were not too much themes as in the OT.
I�ve read in this forum several bad and disappointing comments from people saying how poor or bad is this score, the weakest of the saga or even that the Master should retire after doing this. What sad and unfair comments! I don�t really understand those narrow minded so called "fans" saying that. I don�t know what they were expecting at all! Maybe that is a kind of fake boycott? or these comments comes from, as rocklegend said: "Most of the dude moaning and complaining about this score are probably die-hard Zimmer fans who can�t grasp the complexity of Motifs and hidden themes... they are so used to hearing fuckin Power Anthems blaring through their iBuds..."
Please be fair and recognize the many merits of this amazing work!
Greetings

Thank you!!

This new score of Maestro Williams is great, full of emotion, beauty, subtleties, epic, powerful sound and fresh ideas. Although, is not as easier to listen to as previous scores for the saga. But I feel that give it a more interesting and modern aspect, since the style of Williams as evolved through the times.
I�ve not seen the movie yet but I imagine the score was conceived to nail the pace of the film. I guess, Williams learned from his experience with Episode 1 when the awful film editing cut badly most of the musical development. Is for that reason, from Episode 2 there were not too much themes as in the OT.
I�ve read in this forum several bad and disappointing comments from people saying how poor or bad is this score, the weakest of the saga or even that the Master should retire after doing this. What sad and unfair comments! I don�t really understand those narrow minded so called "fans" saying that. I don�t know what they were expecting at all! Maybe that is a kind of fake boycott? or these comments comes from, as rocklegend said: "Most of the dude moaning and complaining about this score are probably die-hard Zimmer fans who can�t grasp the complexity of Motifs and hidden themes... they are so used to hearing fuckin Power Anthems blaring through their iBuds..."
Please be fair and recognize the many merits of this amazing work!
Greetings

Well said... It is a typical disease these days. Some suffer from a severe form of musical dyslexia, caused by the too frequent listening to the RCP nonsense.
In my opinion it is the best Star Wars score, the old ones are too blatant in many ways.

"This new score of Maestro Williams is great, full of emotion, beauty, subtleties, epic, powerful sound and fresh ideas. Although, is not as easier to listen to as previous
scores for the saga. But I feel that give it a more interesting and modern aspect, since the style of Williams as evolved through the times." And that's this the point.

Thanks again for this score Mr. Williams. 84 years old and still absolutely extraordinary.

In my opinion it is the best Star Wars score, the old ones are too blatant in many ways.

That's going too far.

There no such thing as a one size fits all music score, and comparing two scores to two films separated by 40 years in filmmaking technique, culture and directorial vision is quite unfair to the '77 original, Williams himself, and Lucas the brainchild behind it all.

Williams provided A New Hope precisely the musical aesthetic it needed to transcend it's lowly B movie trappings, and has lent its pale imitation The Force Awakens a score far, far more aesthetically refined than it actually deserves.

That's going too far.

There no such thing as a one size fits all music score, and comparing two scores to two films separated by 40 years in filmmaking technique, culture and directorial vision is quite unfair to the '77 original, Williams himself, and Lucas the brainchild behind it all.

Williams provided A New Hope precisely the musical aesthetic it needed to transcend it's lowly B movie trappings, and has lent its pale imitation The Force Awakens a score far, far more aesthetically refined than it actually deserves.

Please do not get me wrong, this is not a criticism. The old music is brilliant, just I like the "late" Williams personally simply more.
And yes, I like "A New Hope" not particularly, "The Empire Strikes Back" is for me in every way the best "Star Wars" movie.

Giacchino lacks the technical skill of both Williams and Desplat, so no, I can't agree.

There are plenty of composers who can "sound" like Williams, but it's the thought, or lack of thought, behind the music which separates composers like Williams and Desplat from the rest of the pack. I'd sooner see someone like Bruce Broughton take over the reins. Now he has always been able to muster bona fide Williams-esque material, but he was put out to pasture over a decade ago, so there ain't a chance of him ever taking up the baton.

Ahh... That's seems more of an opinion, I think he has the technical skill, a lot of his compositions (mainly from the Medal of Honor series) feel like "If someone told me John Williams composed these, I'd believe them". Didn't you hear the tracks I had linked to in my other post? "The Jet Aircraft Facility" straight up feels like a piece from Indiana Jones, most of the music from his Medal of Honor scores in general feel like that. John Williams is one of Giacchino's MAIN inspirations anyway. I don't see why else they chose Giacchino for Jurrasic World, he did a fantastic job at keeping the Williams feel while incorporating his own themes, it still felt and sounded like Williams. I believe he's got plenty of Williams' sort of thought, although, most of the time it depends on what you're composing for too.
But if that's the way you feel, who am I to tell you different? This is what I think, that's what you think. None of us really know any of the composers' thought process anyway.

Falling more and more in love with Rey's Theme. I'd love to hear a concert suite. Seeing Williams conduct his music in May & I hope badly that he plays a little Force Awakens

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I think this is a fantastic score! It's my favorite score for this year, beating out Jupiter Ascending which I think is Giacchino's best score so far in his career.

As for the debate about Hans Zimmer and Michael Giacchino: I do enjoy much of Zimmer's music but I also recognize that it's nowhere near as refined or inspirational as the music of John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner and other very theme-based composers. Zimmer keeps things very simple and it works on an emotional level, which I do enjoy, but I really enjoy the music that makes your mind work. That's what Williams, Goldsmith, Horner and even Giacchino do.

Michael Giacchino is an excellent young composer who I think has a great future and will be his generation's John Williams, but he'll never top The Maestro. The big difference between the two of them for me is that John Williams is more than just a composer of music; he's a storyteller. He tells a story with his music like nobody else does. You listen to much of his music and you know what's going on in the movie. Giacchino is young in comparison and hasn't achieved that yet, but I'm sure Williams hadn't achieved that same level of refinement when he was Giacchino's age. After all, how many of Williams' early works do we recall before Jaws which was his major breakthrough score. Give Giacchino time and I think he'll become a better storyteller.

I think this is a fantastic score! It's my favorite score for this year, beating out Jupiter Ascending which I think is Giacchino's best score so far in his career.

As for the debate about Hans Zimmer and Michael Giacchino: I do enjoy much of Zimmer's music but I also recognize that it's nowhere near as refined or inspirational as the music of John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner and other very theme-based composers. Zimmer keeps things very simple and it works on an emotional level, which I do enjoy, but I really enjoy the music that makes your mind work. That's what Williams, Goldsmith, Horner and even Giacchino do.

Michael Giacchino is an excellent young composer who I think has a great future and will be his generation's John Williams, but he'll never top The Maestro. The big difference between the two of them for me is that John Williams is more than just a composer of music; he's a storyteller. He tells a story with his music like nobody else does. You listen to much of his music and you know what's going on in the movie. Giacchino is young in comparison and hasn't achieved that yet, but I'm sure Williams hadn't achieved that same level of refinement when he was Giacchino's age. After all, how many of Williams' early works do we recall before Jaws which was his major breakthrough score. Give Giacchino time and I think he'll become a better storyteller.

I completely agree!

I think Giacchino could do it if he polished the recordings of his recent scores more. Since Call of Duty and Lost, he has adopted a very gritty approach to action, almost compromising his interpretation of romantism. Even Medal of Honor: airborne sometimes lacks the emotions of the previous instalments. All in all, a little dry.

Williams is clever to continue giving us superb big orchestral music without compromising emotion and really using the power of scoring stage acoustics.

I think Giacchino could do it if he polished the recordings of his recent scores more. Since Call of Duty and Lost, he has adopted a very gritty approach to action, almost compromising his interpretation of romantism. Even Medal of Honor: airborne sometimes lacks the emotions of the previous instalments. All in all, a little dry.

Williams is clever to continue giving us superb big orchestral music without compromising emotion and really using the power of scoring stage acoustics.

I also agree. Yes, since Call of Duty, he has taken a more gritty approach. But I think Medal of Honor: Airborne is almost never lacking, maybe sometimes in 3 or 4 songs, maybe, but give "Room By Room"-
a listen, its one of my favorite songs from that game. :)

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I think the biggest issue I have with Michael Giacchino is the mixing of his music. It's very dry and I like my music to resonate. That's lacking in most of his scores. The lower ranges and percussion have been better in his more recent scores but the upper brass are still lacking.

As for his music, I enjoy it just fine and feel like he's come a long way in the last six years. I look at his two Star Trek scores as good examples of his growth. I really like his score for 2009's Star Trek but it seems to lack depth. But his Into Darkness score is much more mature and well-rounded. And then by the time you get to Jupiter Ascending there's an even bigger difference still! He's still got development to do but he's currently my favorite non-Williams composer.

I think the biggest issue I have with Michael Giacchino is the mixing of his music. It's very dry and I like my music to resonate. That's lacking in most of his scores. The lower ranges and percussion have been better in his more recent scores but the upper brass are still lacking.

As for his music, I enjoy it just fine and feel like he's come a long way in the last six years. I look at his two Star Trek scores as good examples of his growth. I really like his score for 2009's Star Trek but it seems to lack depth. But his Into Darkness score is much more mature and well-rounded. And then by the time you get to Jupiter Ascending there's an even bigger difference still! He's still got development to do but he's currently my favorite non-Williams composer.

As you may already know by my previous posts, my favorite scores by him are all of his Medal of Honor scores, and the two Call of Duty scores, one of which was never released (for some reason)
I really like his other scores too, of course, but this is where I've seen him shine most frequently.

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Lord! What a mega-collection! For every taste and color!

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Bless you Lilu, this thread is great, every choice available. Thank you very much for all your effort!

Finally a 24bit 192kHz version!! now I can listen to some "Music"!!

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http://www.hdtracks.com/jaws-2-original-motion-picture-soundtrack

Happy holidays!

Finally a 24bit 192kHz version!! now I can listen to some "Music"!!

Thanks!!!

You ought to learn to shut your fucking mouth.
The usual fucks will show up and talk shit in this thread.
Lilu's thread.

Selfish fucks.

You are the mod, why don't you just edit his comment to just the thanks, or simply delete it, as there'll be no loss? Simple as that. e.e

You ought to learn to shut your fucking mouth.
The usual fucks will show up and talk shit in this thread.
Lilu's thread.

Selfish fucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Z9NkY7St0]

Holy crap !!! 3 GB . Oh god , such a great quality . Many Thanks for That .

Thank you!!

Anyone know the source of the 192kHz version?

24bit 192kHz!!! :)
You rock my friend!

Anyone know the source of the 192kHz version?

HDtracks.com and ProStudioMasters.com are selling 192kHz version for 30 dollars.

HDlossless seriously why the obsessionw ith 192khz? Just tell us why, no personal attacks

HDtracks.com and ProStudioMasters.com are selling 192kHz version for 30 dollars.

But... why?

This will be interesting.

I just asked him why does he like it that much, without attacking, I just REALLY wanna know why. What's his excuse.

The more kHz, the more detail, but you must have the hardware and a good pair of ears! I love this quality (24bit 192kHz) too.... ;-)

Thank you very much!

I use a 24bit 192kHz DAC and Sennheiser HD800 to listen to this music.
See my gears:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA96M3A42263&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Headphones+%26+Accessories-_-9SIA96M3A42263&gclid=CIvk_ZO46MkCFQsjHwodwbkLKQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

This is what I use to listen to music. It has 24bit 192kHz support converter system.

$3,799.90

http://t13.deviantart.net/UlKE_idv2dDGGDtzae7t7K0D890=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre11/53db/th/pre/f/2011/285/c/1/raisins_face_by_rober_raik-d4clxij.png

The more kHz, the more detail, but you must have the hardware and a good pair of ears! I love this quality (24bit 192kHz) too.... ;-)

That is useless if you don't have the ears.

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$3,799.90

http://t13.deviantart.net/UlKE_idv2dDGGDtzae7t7K0D890=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre11/53db/th/pre/f/2011/285/c/1/raisins_face_by_rober_raik-d4clxij.png

And this is my portable music player for playing 24bit 192kHz music on the go:

http://www.adorama.com/AK380.html?hotlink=t&svfor=5m&gclid=CKj72Oa56MkCFYQXHwodTIINWg

My earbuds:

http://www.adorama.com/AKLAYLAPSF11.html?gclid=CNjKvr-66MkCFckYHwodmmICbw

I hope you don't drop it.

trolling at it's finest ^ (HDlossless)

Good grief

Thanks lilu :)

So you had all those nifty gadgets that costed half an arm... and you have to download music from the internet for free?

Hurmm...

So you had all those nifty gadgets that costed half an arm... and you have to download music from the internet for free?

Hurmm...

They costed my arms and legs...so I can't buy anything anymore. I live in a room which I can barely put my feet into.

They costed my arms and legs...so I can't buy anything anymore. I live in a room which I can barely put my feet into.

Hahahahaha, dude. You made me laugh. I don't care if people say you're a troll, at the very least you're funny. Kudos to you.

24/192 sounds exactly the same as 16/44, even if you have the most expensive gear in the world. The difference is unnoticeable by human ears.
But in this case I've noticed that the cd version sounds louder because it has dynamic range compression, whereas the 24 bit versions have the full dynamic range. I downloaded the 24/96 version and then coverted it to 16/44 so it has the full DR with the 16/44 size.

They costed my arms and legs...so I can't buy anything anymore. I live in a room which I can barely put my feet into.

Sadly, I can believe this.

Sadly, I can believe this.

https://www.audeze.com/products/lcd-collection/lcd-4

This will be my next headphone. I'm selling my right kidney for that.

great post! Thank you very much!!

https://www.audeze.com/products/lcd-collection/lcd-4

This will be my next headphone. I'm selling my right kidney for that.

You know that this is shockingly funny, right? Or not?

An Audeze? Jeez, why don�t you take some hardware that is less loaded with audiophile marketing hype and actually constructed by people who have more than 70 years of research behind them? Just keep your Sennheiser.

Anyway, I don�t want to crush the fun everyones' having... but both HiRes versions are probably a fake (not the uploaders' fault!). Signals above 20 kHz look like a flat line up to 40 kHz (96 kHz sampling frequency) in gain alongside the actual gain of the music itself. This is not what happens when natural instruments and their overtones are recorded by microphones. Actual instruments would also show irregular patterns instead of the VERY regular ones I can see here.

Secondly, compared to the CD version the frequency response of the HiRes version is different. On the HiRes versions, the frequency response rises from 10 kHz to 14 kHz by roughly +1 dB and from then on sharply by +9 dB to 20 kHz. If this would be caused by a resampler resampling from HiRes to CD, it would be the worst one I have seen during my 25 years I concern myself with these matters. The slope of this gain-rise suspiciously looks like a common DSP effect applied after it was recorded.

All of this leads me to believe that the additional stuff above 20 kHz is caused by an exciter, though one I haven�t seen yet personally.

The material used for what Sony Classical sells as "HiRes" was probably a 24/44.1 or 24/48 source. Or maybe even the CD master.

Thank you for your input. However what do you mean with Sony Classical? This score is released by Walt Disney Records.

If you mean the digital collection LP rip coming in Jan 8..

Also, HDLossless is just trolling. He isn't serious at all.

Thank you for your input. However what do you mean with Sony Classical? This score is released by Walt Disney Records.

If you mean the digital collection LP rip coming in Jan 8..

Also, HDLossless is just trolling. He isn't serious at all.

Ooops, you�re correct. Walt Disney Records, distributed by Universal. My bad, confused it with the prequel scores.

Is it true and CONFIRMED definitely that the 10CD box coming out on January 8th is once more a reissue of every soundtrack released? Without using the new remasters? Are the remasters really exclusive to vynil and digital? Why? I mean this 10CD box looks so definitive and cool.

People say it sounds like shit but I honestly think it sounds fine.. good grief I don't have an advanced ear.. or else I'd hate it. Considering to buy it because 61 euros right now for all the soundtracks ever released, with one or two extras and nice presentation, I'm really fine with it, what do you think?

So Sonic.... when is the Deluxe Edition For TFA? Joking. :p

So Sonic.... when is the Deluxe Edition For TFA? Joking. :p

If there will be - somehow - more music. But why would I remaster TFA when the sound is good? A bit too wide, a bit hollow sounding, a bit too crisp. Apart from that? Perfect so far.

If there will be - somehow - more music. But why would I remaster TFA when the sound is good? A bit too wide, a bit hollow sounding, a bit too crisp. Apart from that? Perfect so far.

I Know I Was Kidding :D

But All The Other You Have Made Are Fantastic, My Fav being From hell. Thanks again :)

Anyone have the correct film order yet?

I Know I Was Kidding :D

But All The Other You Have Made Are Fantastic, My Fav being From hell. Thanks again :)

Thanks! :)

Thanks! :)

No. Thank You For Your Dedication, Hard Work and Genorosity. :)

Thanks!!

https://www.audeze.com/products/lcd-collection/lcd-4

This will be my next headphone. I'm selling my right kidney for that.

It might be more worthy in your case to buy a proper functional brain.

Anyway, a very huge THANK YOU to Lilu for this amazing share and the great effort of all those links and quality. Amazing job and dedication.

Thanks for sharing Lilu!!!

I'm pretty sure this is the order:

Main Titles and The Attack on the Jakku Village
The Scavenger
Rey Meets BB8
I Can Fly Anything
Follow Me
The Falcon
That Girl with the Staff
The Rathtars
Snoke
Maz's Counsel
Finn's Confession
The Starkiller
Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle
The Abduction
Han and Leia
On the Inside
Torn Apart
Scherzo for X-Wings
The Ways of the Force
Farewell and The Trip
The Jedi Steps and Finale

Suites:
Rey's Theme
March of the Resistance

I am not 100% if Scherzo for X-Wings or Ways of the Force come first. I believe X-Wings is first since I know what Ways of the Force is exactly. Only seen film once so can't remember what cues are right after that and I remember before it.

Thanks. When may we expect the complete sessions?

24/192 sounds exactly the same as 16/44, even if you have the most expensive gear in the world. The difference is unnoticeable by human ears.
But in this case I've noticed that the cd version sounds louder because it has dynamic range compression, whereas the 24 bit versions have the full dynamic range. I downloaded the 24/96 version and then coverted it to 16/44 so it has the full DR with the 16/44 size.

Thanks for this info, jorge5150. You are correct; the CD version is compressed. I followed your advice and it sounds great.

And thank you, Lilu!!!

Thanks for this info, jorge5150. You are correct; the CD version is compressed. I followed your advice and it sounds great.

And thank you, Lilu!!!

A big thanks from me too, I forgot the First time. Those files will serve me nicely until my CD arrives.

Btw, the hires version is compressed, too. Only less. In any case, the compression is very well done so we shouldn't expect to hear bad sound :)

you are awesome

I'm pretty sure this is the order:

Main Titles and The Attack on the Jakku Village
The Scavenger
Rey Meets BB8
I Can Fly Anything
Follow Me
The Falcon
That Girl with the Staff
The Rathtars
Snoke
Maz's Counsel
Finn's Confession
The Starkiller
Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle
The Abduction
Han and Leia
On the Inside
Torn Apart
Scherzo for X-Wings
The Ways of the Force
Farewell and The Trip
The Jedi Steps and Finale

Suites:
Rey's Theme
March of the Resistance

I am not 100% if Scherzo for X-Wings or Ways of the Force come first. I believe X-Wings is first since I know what Ways of the Force is exactly. Only seen film once so can't remember what cues are right after that and I remember before it.

It's also worth noting that Scherzo for X-Wings is a concert suite. Bits and pieces of it appear in the film.

Has it been confirmed whether or not the Hi-Res versions have better dynamic range?

The score, after having seen the movie first, is a bit off-putting at first listen. But having listened to it another 3-4 times, I've grown to really enjoy it. Yes, it relies less on memorable themes and focuses more on keeping up with the momentum of the film. Which is fine for me. It's a new trilogy, and it should differentiate itself a bit. I'm sure with Rian Johnson's middle film, it'll be a slower film that will give The Maestro the opportunity to let the story soak in and chew on the meat. This film moves like a bullet train, and Williams complimented the film as it is, not as what we would like it to be.

Another aspect to consider, is how Abrams edited the film. With the first six Star Wars films, save for maybe Attack of the Clones, Williams was able to analyze the films as a whole. According to an interview Williams gave to PBS' Tavis Smiley this week, he prefers to develop themes for the last act of a film and then go back to the beginning and compose the score to gradually build up to the ending themes. With TFA, Abrams edited the footage chronologically in 30-minute chunks. So Williams and Abrams went back numerous times to re-compose the early and mid portions of the film. This process took from June to November. Which is a highly unusual time frame.

Again, I like that it's different. Very much looking forward, and hoping, Williams continues through Episode IX (the Force willing, of course).

Thank you.

what's the difference between the normal flac and the 24/192bit flac?

Thank you sooo much!!

Thx for a great and important share!

Has it been confirmed whether or not the Hi-Res versions have better dynamic range?

16 bit FLAC and CD versions:

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR10 -0.48 dB -14.00 dB 6:27 01-Main Title and the Attack on the Jakku Village
DR13 -2.38 dB -22.48 dB 3:43 02-The Scavenger
DR10 -0.46 dB -14.37 dB 3:13 03-I Can Fly Anything
DR12 -0.52 dB -21.06 dB 1:33 04-Rey Meets BB-8
DR10 -0.50 dB -15.61 dB 2:56 05-Follow Me
DR11 -0.50 dB -16.09 dB 3:12 06-Rey's Theme
DR11 -0.50 dB -14.19 dB 3:35 07-The Falcon
DR14 -0.50 dB -20.84 dB 1:59 08-That Girl with the Staff
DR11 -0.50 dB -15.25 dB 4:08 09-The Rathtars!
DR13 -0.66 dB -21.08 dB 2:09 10-Finn's Confession
DR13 -0.50 dB -20.28 dB 3:09 11-Maz's Counsel
DR12 -6.26 dB -24.36 dB 1:52 12-The Starkiller
DR11 -0.51 dB -15.57 dB 2:01 13-Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle
DR10 -0.50 dB -15.41 dB 2:25 14-The Abduction
DR15 -0.76 dB -21.24 dB 4:46 15-Han and Leia
DR10 -0.50 dB -13.49 dB 2:36 16-March of the Resistance
DR10 -12.07 dB -28.25 dB 2:04 17-Snoke
DR14 -0.50 dB -19.39 dB 2:06 18-On the Inside
DR10 -0.50 dB -15.65 dB 4:20 19-Torn Apart
DR11 -0.50 dB -15.50 dB 3:16 20-The Ways of the Force
DR10 -0.50 dB -13.45 dB 2:33 21-Scherzo for X-Wings
DR11 -0.50 dB -16.24 dB 4:57 22-Farewell and the Trip
DR10 -0.42 dB -15.01 dB 8:52 23-The Jedi Steps and Finale
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks: 23
Official DR value: DR11

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 685 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================== ==============================
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/100329


24/96 and 24/192 versions:

DR Peak RMS Duration Track
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DR12 -0.16 dB -15.73 dB 6:26 01-Main Title and The Attack on the Jakku Village
DR13 -4.13 dB -24.17 dB 3:40 02-The Scavenger
DR12 -0.18 dB -16.05 dB 3:11 03-I Can Fly Anything
DR12 -0.51 dB -22.84 dB 1:31 04-Rey Meets BB-8
DR12 -0.30 dB -17.20 dB 2:55 05-Follow Me
DR11 -1.79 dB -18.08 dB 3:11 06-Rey's Theme
DR13 -0.25 dB -15.86 dB 3:32 07-The Falcon
DR15 -0.70 dB -22.59 dB 1:59 08-That Girl with the Staff
DR13 -0.20 dB -16.92 dB 4:06 09-The Rathtars!
DR13 -2.40 dB -23.00 dB 2:09 10-Finn's Confession
DR15 -0.35 dB -22.15 dB 3:08 11-Maz's Counsel
DR12 -7.94 dB -25.97 dB 1:50 12-The Starkiller
DR12 -0.22 dB -16.95 dB 2:00 13-Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle
DR11 -0.11 dB -16.63 dB 2:24 14-The Abduction
DR14 -2.86 dB -23.16 dB 4:42 15-Han and Leia
DR11 -0.26 dB -15.12 dB 2:34 16-March of the Resistance
DR10 -13.80 dB -30.03 dB 2:03 17-Snoke
DR15 -0.27 dB -21.12 dB 2:06 18-On the Inside
DR12 -0.25 dB -17.37 dB 4:19 19-Torn Apart
DR12 -0.33 dB -16.80 dB 3:15 20-The Ways of the Force
DR12 -0.01 dB -15.09 dB 2:32 21-Scherzo for X-Wings
DR12 -0.55 dB -18.06 dB 4:56 22-Farewell and The Trip
DR12 -0.18 dB -16.01 dB 8:51 23-The Jedi Steps and Finale
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Number of tracks: 23
Official DR value: DR12

Samplerate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 2746 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================== ==============================
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/100335

FLAC 16 44 downconverted from FLAC 24 96:

https://www.adrive.com/public/PqWcS4/John%20Williams%20-%20Star%20Wars%3B%20The%20Force%20Awakens%20(Origi nal%20Motion%20Picture%20Soundtrack)%20(2015)%20-%20WEB%20FLAC.rar

Thank you so much for the links, Lilu!!!...
Regards, my friend!!! :)

I really appreciate you posting this!

I'd avoid the 24/96 and 24/192 copies due to artifacts, here's a screenshot of a random part of the first track;
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5527081/Main%20Title%20and%20The%20Attack%20on%20the%20Ja. png

Edit: Infact the 24/96 and 24/192 copies are a lot noisier than the CD copies overall, the artifacts are not just above 22.05kHz; CD copy () vs Downsampled 24/192 ().
The CD copies are limited a little (about 2dB louder by limiting), the 'Mastered for iTunes' version is similar to the CD version but more softly limited (CD version is brickwall limited).
The 16/44.1 WEB FLAC seems to be a lossless version of the iTunes version, so personally I'd recommend using that.

I'm not sure what caused the artifacts since it looks like what you would get with clipping rather than improperly upsampling, I'm no expert though so hopefully someone else might know what is the cause of this. It kind of looks like they have used some process to create fake harmonics (badly).

I'd avoid the 24/96 and 24/192 copies due to artifacts. Infact the 24/96 and 24/192 copies are a lot noisier than the CD copies overall, the artifacts are not just above 22.05kHz; CD copy () vs Downsampled 24/192 ().
The CD copies are limited a little (about 2dB louder by limiting), the 'Mastered for iTunes' version is similar to the CD version but more softly limited (CD version is brickwall limited).
The 16/44.1 WEB FLAC seems to be a lossless version of the iTunes version, so personally I'd recommend using that.

I'm not sure what caused the artifacts since it looks like what you would get with clipping rather than improperly upsampling, I'm no expert though so hopefully someone else might know what is the cause of this.

Thank you very much for that picture! I failed to provide that when I explained that the 96 / 192 versions are fake. The artifacts are caused by an exciter. This seems to be a very bad exciter since it aliases into the lower frequency band (-> what we can actually hear). If you remove the music, leaving only the noise, it sounds suspiciously like quantization noise though. Very odd. I wouldn�t touch the 96 / 192, they aren�t real.

Thank you very much for that picture! I failed to provide that when I explained that the 96 / 192 versions are fake. The artifacts are caused by an exciter. This seems to be a very bad exciter since it aliases into the lower frequency band (-> what we can actually hear). If you remove the music, leaving only the noise, it sounds suspiciously like quantization noise though. Very odd. I wouldn�t touch the 96 / 192, they aren�t real.

Yeah it seems it is deliberate, high-res audio is a scam in my opinion anyway. I'd rather have a better (or more dynamic) master. I may experiment with an exciter to see if I can mimic what they used.
Edit: Just tested an exciter and it looks very similar.

The score, after having seen the movie first, is a bit off-putting at first listen. But having listened to it another 3-4 times, I've grown to really enjoy it. Yes, it relies less on memorable themes and focuses more on keeping up with the momentum of the film. Which is fine for me. It's a new trilogy, and it should differentiate itself a bit. I'm sure with Rian Johnson's middle film, it'll be a slower film that will give The Maestro the opportunity to let the story soak in and chew on the meat. This film moves like a bullet train, and Williams complimented the film as it is, not as what we would like it to be.

Another aspect to consider, is how Abrams edited the film. With the first six Star Wars films, save for maybe Attack of the Clones, Williams was able to analyze the films as a whole. According to an interview Williams gave to PBS' Tavis Smiley this week, he prefers to develop themes for the last act of a film and then go back to the beginning and compose the score to gradually build up to the ending themes. With TFA, Abrams edited the footage chronologically in 30-minute chunks. So Williams and Abrams went back numerous times to re-compose the early and mid portions of the film. This process took from June to November. Which is a highly unusual time frame.

Again, I like that it's different. Very much looking forward, and hoping, Williams continues through Episode IX (the Force willing, of course).

Having read that then.. hopefully we'll have better music for Episodes 8 and 9.

Thank you very much!

Edit: Infact the 24/96 and 24/192 copies are a lot noisier than the CD copies overall, the artifacts are not just above 22.05kHz; CD copy () vs Downsampled 24/192 ().
The CD copies are limited a little (about 2dB louder by limiting), the 'Mastered for iTunes' version is similar to the CD version but more softly limited (CD version is brickwall limited).
The 16/44.1 WEB FLAC seems to be a lossless version of the iTunes version, so personally I'd recommend using that.

I'm not sure what caused the artifacts since it looks like what you would get with clipping rather than improperly upsampling, I'm no expert though so hopefully someone else might know what is the cause of this. It kind of looks like they have used some process to create fake harmonics (badly).

And I was so happy to be supporting a high-res release of Johnny's music. Leave it to these bastards to fake the damn thing! Guess I'll be downloading the WEB FLAC to replace my legitimately purchased "high-res" files. :(

Just for educational purposes, does anyone know why the faked high-res master has better dynamic range?

Thank you for this info!

Thank you very much for that picture! I failed to provide that when I explained that the 96 / 192 versions are fake. The artifacts are caused by an exciter. This seems to be a very bad exciter since it aliases into the lower frequency band (-> what we can actually hear). If you remove the music, leaving only the noise, it sounds suspiciously like quantization noise though. Very odd. I wouldn't touch the 96 / 192, they aren�t real.
Do you think that the hi-res releases in January of the six soundtracks will also be fake?

Do you think that the hi-res releases in January of the six soundtracks will also be fake?

Is Sony a big enough asshole to have a possibility of letting something like that happen?

It's a possibility, because someone has said here that Sony does not have the rights to anything else but the 1997/2004 masters, no rights for the original tape masters for LP or something. However. I wouldn't blame Sony Classical on this - but actually Walt Disney Records, usually they don't do this stuff, of releasing stuff in 192khz. I'd assume the digital 192khz LP masters that they are releasing in January have got to be real or else people would pretty much redeem and feel scammed. Though I am buying the 10CD Boxset, it's sad that they aren't using the new masters for the CD release, only vynil and digital get them.

It's a possibility, because someone has said here that Sony does not have the rights to anything else but the 1997/2004 masters, no rights for the original tape masters for LP or something. However. I wouldn't blame Sony Classical on this - but actually Walt Disney Records, usually they don't do this stuff, of releasing stuff in 192khz. I'd assume the digital 192khz LP masters that they are releasing in January have got to be real or else people would pretty much redeem and feel scammed. Though I am buying the 10CD Boxset, it's sad that they aren't using the new masters for the CD release, only vynil and digital get them.

There is an AMA on reddit about the new collection here (https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3w97d3/were_pat_sullivan_dann_michael_thompson_and_shawn/) if anyone is interested

There is an AMA on reddit about the new collection here (https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3w97d3/were_pat_sullivan_dann_michael_thompson_and_shawn/) if anyone is interested

Oh wow! That's an interesting thread. Thank you very much for the link!

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It's sad that it's done - I wish I could've asked him if the new CD boxset will have new masters or anything.. or will be just another reissue.

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Q: How will the remastering of this new box set be different from the previous releases? I'd love to hear a much better release of the original trilogy recordings
That being said, I will probably get this set regardless because it looks so freaking cool.


A:Well, I think this is the first time we've have all six episodes on vinyl. So, that's a difference.
The fact that Dann retransferred original analog 2 tracks on 4, 5 and 6 to 192 means we should have higher resolution available for the CDs and vinyl for those three. On 1, 2 and 3, we're working from similar masters that Pat created originally. So, those are probably going to be more similar in the CD world to what was originally there, although the vinyl world will be different because it's the first time they've been out. My sense is those are the differences. Not to say... there's more to come.. More could be done, but this is a lot already.

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Q: For Episodes I, II, and III, we still only have the "studio album" versions of the score. Was there any consideration for putting together the chronological score as was done for the original trilogy presenting the exact takes/mixes that were used in the films?

A: That's a Sony question. (everyone laughs)

I'll give you the quick answer. That answer is, sure.
We were hoping that when we did the special edition of Episode 1 that that would take place for Episode 2 & 3, but it never did. What I can tell you is, editorially, it would have to be an effort to put complete cues together, as opposed to how they existed in the film. But all of that material is available; the edit notes are available, the scores are available, and the multi-track masters are available. So, it's a matter of desire, and I'm sure budget, to accomplish that.
But could it be done? Absolutely. Sequential, complete versions of those scores could be done.

Q-A: Thanks for the answer! It's good to know that all the ingredients are there. I hope this project helps show Sony that there is money to be made on Star Wars (I realize that it's kind a cult thing where most people aren't aware of these films).

Sigh, still no answers about the CDs, it seems like it will be just another reissue with nothing special. But the LPs and digital release are.. guess then I should be getting both physical 10CD box and the digital LP remastering. Hopefully someone uploads that last one in FLAC here.

So, about these 96/192 files being "fake", are these "fake" from the studio, or did some guy take the CDs and upconvert them, passing them off as hi-res?

So, about these 96/192 files being "fake", are these "fake" from the studio, or did some guy take the CDs and upconvert them, passing them off as hi-res?

The files are fake, as in what is sold is fake, and upconverted horribly. It's a shame they are actually being sold in a digital shop I believe-

That's a damn shame. I can't see the recording sessions being done at a lower rate, and I can't see this being a mistake since someone had to deliberately do this, so I don't get why they didn't just use the proper files.

I threw the files into Audition and saw the same artifacting.

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HDtracks.com and ProStudioMasters.com are selling 192kHz version for 30 dollars.

HDtracks is selling 24/192 for $23.

Are you sure they're fake? The spectrograms look normal to me.

Is Sony a big enough asshole to have a possibility of letting something like that happen?

Yes. Sony is one of the biggest assholes. When SACD hit the market in 2000, they re-released several albums on the new medium (which is Hi-Res as well). The source for lots of releases: the CD master, so 16/44.1.

There seems to be additional music on the FYI Disney Website!!! Somebody please rip :)



01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
03 The Scavenger (1:52)
04 Lunchtime (1:12)
05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
07 Follow Me and The Falcon (2:58)
08 The Rathtars (1:19)
09 Snoke (2:07)
10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
12 The Starkiller (1:52)
13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15)
14 The Resistance (1:35)
15 The Abduction (1:35)
16 Finn and Poe, United (2:01)
17 The Bombing Run (2:07)
18 On the Inside (2:54)
19 Torn Apart (4:24)
20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
21 The Journey Home (2:18)
22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)

So, about these 96/192 files being "fake", are these "fake" from the studio, or did some guy take the CDs and upconvert them, passing them off as hi-res?

The labels are doing it themselves. It surely isn�t the first time this has happened.

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That's a damn shame. I can't see the recording sessions being done at a lower rate, and I can't see this being a mistake since someone had to deliberately do this, so I don't get why they didn't just use the proper files.

They probably had only one master which was at, I guess, 24/44.1 or 24/48. Since Hi-Res is all the rage now (for all the wrong reasons) they decided to try and squeeze more money out of stupid audiophools. And they know they can, because Audiophiles don�t look at spectograms (they are technically illiterate people with too much money).

There seems to be additional music on the FYI Disney Website!!! Somebody please rip :)



01 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 1 (5:27)
02 The Attack on the Jakku Village Part 2 (1:53)
03 The Scavenger (1:52)
04 Lunchtime (1:12)
05 I Can Fly Anything (4:09)
06 Finn’s Trek (1:35)
07 Follow Me and The Falcon (2:58)
08 The Rathtars (1:19)
09 Snoke (2:07)
10 You Got A Name? (1:32)
11 I’m No Hero (1:06)
12 The Starkiller (1:52)
13 Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (2:15)
14 The Resistance (1:35)
15 The Abduction (1:35)
16 Finn and Poe, United (2:01)
17 The Bombing Run (2:07)
18 On the Inside (2:54)
19 Torn Apart (4:24)
20 The Ways of the Force (3:58)
21 The Journey Home (2:18)
22 Farewell and The Trip (3:49)
23 The Jedi Steps and Finale (9:58)

Link? What's "FYI". Did you mean "FYC"?

Link? What's "FYI". Did you mean "FYC"?

STAR WARS THE FORCE AWAKENS - FYC PROMO - JOHN WILLIAMS new music ! (Thread 197983) (Here's a thread for the new tracks.)

Thank you very much for the HQ !

So many thanks Lilu! ~ Merry Christmas!

Thank you so much Lilu!

Thanks Lilu!

Just realized that my HTC One M9 is 100% Hi-Res in 24-bit/192 kHz, and I just bought a pair of really nice headphones, so I'm gonna test this out.

I hope the difference is drastic.

Thank you kindly Lilu.

Did you guys heared that they reused the "Burning Homestead" Theme from ANH when [SPOILER AHEAD] Rey caught the lightsaber [SPOILER END] ?

it fits right in the regular CD release Track "The Ways of the Force" after 13seconds...

Great GREAT Share!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does anyone have the screenplay?

Does anyone have the screenplay?

http://www.filedropper.com/starwars-theforceawakens-finalscript

Thanks for this!

Thank You!

Anyone notice that the original release is too big to fit on a standard 700 meg Audio CD Disc?

Does anyone have the screenplay?


http://www.filedropper.com/starwars-theforceawakens-finalscript

It's all over the internet, you don't even really have to search for it much. But rhoadsfanz helped you out, I see :)

Anyone notice that the original release is too big to fit on a standard 700 meg Audio CD Disc? It's only 77min 49sec 785 megs, but will not fit on a 700 meg 80 min CD. anyone find that strange?

Anyone notice that the original release is too big to fit on a standard 700 meg Audio CD Disc? It's only 77min 49sec 785 megs, but will not fit on a 700 meg 80 min CD. anyone find that strange?

The commercial release was compressed. Simple as that.

You don't understand, an 80min 700 meg CD will hold 80 min, the release is only 77 min. It shouldn't be 785 megs. It doesn't make logical sense.
8.75 megs per min ~ 77.8 min should be around 680.75 megs, but it's 785 megs. Simple as that.

Figured it out, it was the lame ass program I was using. eh heh

John Williams - Star Wars: The Ultimate Digital Download (24bit 192kHz HDTracks)
http://www.hdtracks.com/star-wars-the-ultimate-digital-collection-277034

The whole 6 hour long Star Wars soundtrack collection by John Williams is available in 24bit 192kHz FLAC.

Please upload this!

Thanks!

John Williams - Star Wars: The Ultimate Digital Download (24bit 192kHz HDTracks)
http://www.hdtracks.com/star-wars-the-ultimate-digital-collection-277034

The whole 6 hour long Star Wars soundtrack collection by John Williams is available in 24bit 192kHz FLAC.

Please upload this!

Thanks!

Or Better Yet YOU Buy It, Then YOU Upload It.

Or Better Yet YOU Buy It, Then YOU Upload It.

You know you're talking to a wall right there, fella. :laugh:

You know you're talking to a wall right there, fella. :laugh:

Most Are Walls Nowadays....

nice thread : thanks :)

After doing an analysis on the 24/192 of Empire, I decided to take my own look at Rey's Theme. I don't know what happened with track 1, but this file is legit:

Thank you for that.

magnifique album de john williams cette homme es un grand magicien de la musique je dis respet

Respect ? what do you know about respect when you steal the score of others to re-post it with your Tapoktro (the chameleon) account, and when you put your download link on the thread of their creator to derive profit through advertising ? Please if one person here has to forget this word "respect" it's you : warstar937 !

Thank you Lilu.

Thanks for the soundtrack!

Wow, this is one of the most comprehensive threads I've seen in a while. Keep up the great work!

This is simply amazing!!! thanks a million!!!

Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2 LP Hologram Vinyl

Walt Disney Records is set to release a new hologram vinyl version of the original motion picture soundtrack for Star Wars: The Force Awakens. With score conducted and composed by five-time Academy Award�-winning composer John Williams and liner notes by the film's director, J.J. Abrams, the double LP features a 16-page booklet on 180 gram vinyl. This one-of-a-kind vinyl set, hand etched by Tristan Duke (Jack White�s Lazaretto) of Infinity Light Science, offers a 3D hologram experience featuring the Millennium Falcon on Disc 1/Side B and a TIE Fighter on Disc 2/Side B. For optimal viewing, use a direct light source or simply hold a mobile phone flashlight above the vinyl to view the holograms.

Tristan Duke founded Infinity Light Science in 2008, a research laboratory with an emphasis on laser holography, interferometry, light-field imaging, hand-drawn holography, and relativistic imaging.

The must-have vinyl album also features Direct Metal Mastering (DMM) for an optimal listening experience. Disney Music Group has joined forces with Pro-Ject Audio Systems to showcase this unique, next-level advancement in holographic vinyl technology with the Elemental turntable, a combination of minimalist design and maximum performance from the world leader in high fidelity turntables. The two brands will collaborate on co-promotions at retail, online, and radio.


VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLuvkcV2oi4

LiLu....so Many thanks for this!

please repost FLAC / 24/192 bit Lossless

please repost FLAC / 24/192 bit Lossless

What he /\ said,..Please.

could you repost the FLAC / 24/192 bit Lossless please

Would love a link to the FLAC 24/192 download if someone is willing to share. Thanks in advance!

could I please have a copy of the FLAC / 24/192 bit Lossless please

No reuplauds?

please reaup 24/192

please reaup 24/192!!

Would be interested as well!

I would be intested as well.

Would be interested as well!

Please re-upload the 24-bit 192khz. Thanks.

ditto - Thank you

Ditto too: please re-upload the 24bit 192kHz or send me the link for it. Many thanks in advance!

Yes please.

Does anyone have the 24-Bit / 192KHz version?

24/192 sounds exactly the same as 16/44, even if you have the most expensive gear in the world. The difference is unnoticeable by human ears.
But in this case I've noticed that the cd version sounds louder because it has dynamic range compression, whereas the 24 bit versions have the full dynamic range. I downloaded the 24/96 version and then coverted it to 16/44 so it has the full DR with the 16/44 size.

What utter nonsense! I was in the audio industry for many years, and have a home hi-fi system (mostly Linn gear) which would have retailed for many thousands of pounds at the time. Do you really think I would have spent that money if they 'all sound exactly the same'? I only use CD's in the car, 'cause the sound of vinyl or hi-res audio is so much better than 44/16. If you can't hear the difference, either you have no idea what you are listening for, or your audio gear must be really bad/poorly set up. And don't even get me started on mp3, which sounds so bad I don't know how anyone can listen to it!

Great OST. I already own it.

Can someone reupload the 24/192 ? thx

Could be nice indeed.